Take out the CMOS battery (Bios battery), disconnect from the mains and then hit the power button. Replace the battery, plug it back in and try it. The sound you heard might have been something hitting one of the fans in the PSU or another part of the case. Usually, big name makers will cause the system to not start up if there was some kind of event that shut down the computer incorrectly. Worth a try.
Seems a likely culprit. Maybe a screw in the PSU was hitting the fan and shorted out the PSU. Plus, usually Dell (Especially! The small ones) use a non-standard wiring system for their PSUs. Some do and some don't, but I believe the small ones don't use a standard ATX wiring scheme.
The issue is not about a dead battery. Removal of the CMOS (Bios) battery will reset the 'System Events' and Bios settings. If there is a negative system event (Power failure, component failure), a lot of the manufacturers will prevent the computer from turning back on. Especially Dell and IBM. By unplugging the system, removing the CMOS battery and pressing the start button (Power on), this uses up the last bit of electricity in the system, thus clearing the system events record and bios settings.
*DUDE, THIS IS IMPORTANT! I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM!!!* So the good message is: Probably your Board isn't dead! I think your CPU cooler died! Dell has a protective function in those boards to prevent users enabling it while the cooling is broken! How to fix that? Test if your cooler is broken! If not, just take it in place again and make shure nothing will interfere with it! Then unplug the pc from its power and take out the CMOS battery. Wait 24 hours and try again!
he could it's still socket 775 so any socket 775 cooler will work. But it's a moot point. It has nothing to do with the cooler. Even if the CPU cooler dies, CPU's will shut itself off after a certain temperature around 80+C. It will still power up for a few minutes. It will give beep codes at the very least before shutting itself down. These beep codes sound in a specific pattern to identify the issue for troubleshooting. These are also for Dell support to identify the issue easily and quickly back when it was under warranty. If you can't even power up the thing there are one of two things wrong either your psu is faulty or your board is dead.
kohkaeable, I thought the same until I encountered that problem! Actually, the mounting points are not for usual 775 coolers, so you'd have to buy a new OEM cooler. But actually, if the CPU overheats the board will prevent itself from getting powered on. This is pretty dumb, I know, but thats my only explanation. So the pc worked again after some days of giving up :D
And now I know you have no idea what you're talking about. CPU sockets and Heatsink mounting mounting holes ARE STANDARDISED. You said yourself you bought an OEM cooler. OEMs manufacture to standardised specs not to one off sizes. I don't think you understand what an OEM is if you think they make custom sizes.
I like the enthusiasm you display. Your experiments like this one, are amusing to me. I have dug into old boxes mostly because someone was paying me to either resurrect it or fix it. You have no fear and due to your low budget; not much ventured, much knowledge gained. Kudos man. You keep on keepin' on.
Not where I am, I've been looking around a lot lately as I plan on a similar Project, I have never seen any of those go under 30€ except once where it was around 15 bucks but I slept too long and it was gone. Those that have the Q6600 or other Quad Cores from Factory reach at least 50€ most of the time and while still being rather cheap for a PC it's still too much for a 100€ or less gaming PC that I want to have.
UHHHHH... Is the i7 6600K a limited edition? Because the only socket 1151 i7 I know are 6700(K) and 7700(K). (im joking k, i know theres no i7 6600K, you might be talking about the i5 6600K)
RandomGaminginHD I like to see you build various sff pc's cause I have one of my own and I want to see what can I add in there for a better performance and good luck though :)
These things happen. Maybe hit up IBM and purchase one of their Magic Smoke Refill canisters and pump it into the offending component and it should run as good as new!
i love this channel. most of the main pc channels focus on newer, higher tech parts then theres this one. where we try and build a pc for as cheap as possible. keep up the good RandomGaminginHD!
The motherboard may not be dead. I've seen Dells that for some strange reason use a different pinout for the power, and won't send the proper "ok" signal for the power supply to turn on. Do any caps look bad? Maybe a re-cap is in order.
LOL........Think if the PC exploded..........People would have blamed SAMSUNG instead.....!!!!! And we would'nt be seeing any more budget gaming rig vids from this channel..........cause RGH would've died Bonus: 2:03 seducing the pc
...What? Why would they blame Samsung? How is Samsung involved with the making of this Dell or its PSU? Why are you mentioning nearly 6 month old news? I have so many questions for this comment...
you really are one of the most genuine youtubers out there, kudos for trying, pity it burned out on you, but better sooner than later,right? keep on posting bro!
KFA2 750ti single slot single does fit in this case but unfortunately the pc blew but if u can get another optiplex that's the graphics card to go for.
wizzgamer It does not. I have the meditower version of the dell he has. I do have the Kfa2 GTX 750 ti in my system, however I had to buy a pcie extender to fit the card in
Budget gaming is sometimes a gamble. A few months ago I picked up a 3 year old Acer aspire with a mobile pentium J2900 processor, 8gb of ram and a 1Tb hard drive for $20 (USD) and dropped a rx 460 I had around to make a cheap gaming PC for my kids and so far it has worked flawlessly. The greatness of the silicon lottery.
I had this exact same problem in 2013 with a brand new AMD FX build. Was absolutely gutted. The problem was exactly as you'd explained, the PSU went bang and took the board with it.
That's one thing that plagued the Optiplex 330/320s that my technical school used. usually about two per week with half that not even being able to post or boot normally. It was the motherboard that went without warning and Dell Tech Support only worked if you demanded what you needed. Namely, yet another motherboard. I'm sorry it happened to you, as well, but as many of these things Dell pumped out back in the day, it likely came with the territory.
I've had a couple similar things occur to me over the decades, the most spectacular was about 3 or 4 years ago an aging PS Unit zapped and blew with a resounding pop of capacitors and took out my Mobo + CPU + RAM and to top it off it took out the circuit breaker powering the ac outlet. Yes I replaced the circuit breaker too along with the entire PC as it was best to start with new components. I was able to recycle things like the HDD's and even the GPU was working fine. It was quite interesting hearing that sound and then seeing the "Magic Smoke" as some like to call it ;)
Not all is lost. You can modify the dell to fit that small form factor 1050. Cutting a bit off the plastic shell of the heatsync won't be a problem, and you don't exactly have to leave the brackets on their either.
I had a cheap, poor PSU pop a huge cap on boot once. Autopsy revealed the innards of the unit were pretty evenly covered in little bits of paper and gunk. Hearing an explosion on power-up probably never stops to startle.
Irony - I bought an Optiplex 760 midtower, and the PSU I swapped into it did the same exact thing. Now it's running a Corsair with a single-rail 12V, and after coercing it with shorting out the green line, the system works like a champ.
That's exactly what happened to my Dell E520, aside from the spoon blender noise, that I planned on upgrading. Won't even power on with a temporary PSU transplant. I suspect it blew a cap or something.
Hi, you could check the power good on the dell's psu. Just loop a wire from the green cable connector to the black cable connector next to it on the atx connector. If the fan runs, then it is the motherboard as it has to give a power good signal to the psu for it to power on. Then you can check the main capacitors on the motherboard with a multimeter. They are the most common failure of motherboards. They are easily changed and cheap to do.
No need for apologies :) I'm not sure if that card but it's either been too big a drain on the PSU or maybe you just got unlucky with it. I think the idea still has merit for those on the smallest of budgets. I think stretching the budget to the Vostro i5 range is the route I'd advise people, the PSU and case is bigger and I believe the PSU can possibly be switched with better, bigger wattage units. I sourced one before Xmas for my brother and stuck my spare Gtx750 in it and his boy is loving it. Love this channel, keep up the great work! It'd be great to always be getting bleeding edge kit but the reality is (if you look at Steam GPU polls) most can't and are looking for the best bang per buck. Looks forward to your next project :)
I have subscribed, it's my way of remembering the brave, plucky little $5 Dell. It's gone to Silicon Heaven, which is where all the little calculators go.
We had a Dell a few years back that went dark as well. No horrible noises, but it was completely dead. Seems like the custom solutions from Dell aren't made for lasting for ever :P
had a similar issue with a SFF Optiplex GX620, opend up the PSU after that and it had a couple of burnt parts in it. It was previously used in a workshop and i guess the Dust in the PSU made it shortcut (sanding dust etc.)
Have you considered using a 775 motherboard and trying to put a quad core xeon in it with a 771-775 conversion, 775 boards (which are not proprietary junk like dell or hp) can be found relatively cheap, lots of bundles on ebay too including ram and coolers etc, i put one together for my nephew as his first Gaming PC, worked out really well, so I'm doing another one to use for older games for myself.
I have a recommendation for you. Buy a Dell Dimension 9200. I just looked on Ebay, this PC goes anywhere from $60 to $100. It is similar to the Optiplex hardware wise, but the difference is that it is a full size tower. I recently helped a friend upgrade his, and we went with a Q6600 CPU and a GTX 1050 GPU. We got some really good gameplay results with War Thunder running above 60 FPS on maxed out settings. All the upgrades were done for under $300. This PC would make a great budget build and a good replacement for the Optiplex, especially considering you can put a full size GPU into this one. We didn't even need to upgrade the stock 375 Watt PSU, and if you want to add a more powerful GPU, it has an extra 6-pin connector on it already!
The 1050 ti doesn't fit in this system? Good thing you posted this. I actually just got an Optiplex 745 SFF for $20 (US) and was planning on doing very similar upgrades. Instead I think I'll either be putting in an R7 250 1GB GDDR5 or a R7 240 2GB GDDR3. I've found the 250 on Newegg for about $45 shipped and the R7 240 for $20 on Craigslist. Still not sure which one to go with since the R7 is a pretty good deal for price to performance.
check the cpu and out put, but if it did fried the board look at the compactor and see if the large one poped, and just replace it, super easy on those old boards
It went pop because the power supply could not power the 120w tdp CPU. And you also had a graphics card that needed at least 30watts. Another thing also, did you check CPU Temps? That stock cooler is designed for 75-80watt CPUs
My guess was that the power supply (being most likely low quality on top of being older) blew under any extra strain the Q6600 put on it. Especially since the older a PSU is, the less reliable it is to be able to output its maximum power threshold. I know proprietary PSUs in those systems are notoriously poor, so it seemed like only a matter of time before it blew :(
i had the same think happen to me with a pentium 4 2.70ghz motherboard, when i installed a new power suply the light whent on but the fans and the motherboard didn't do anything (the light shows when it has power) and i don't belive that is fixable
Try changing out the CMOS battery, I was watching a video from Carey Holzman's channel and he had an issue with a system not powering on. After he changed the CMOS battery, it powered on. Try that real quick.
You could go with a Dell Optiplex Minitower PC, it uses a standard PSU and has the same upgradability and then some. There are a lot for cheap too since they used to be used a lot in offices but are now outdated due to the new Optiplexes, similar to why the ssf is so cheap.
I feel your pain, as I had a Dell Optiplex 780 SFF die on me recently. I fiddled for several days but finally took the CPU and RAM out. I decided to move on as I didn’t want to pour money into something that has Dell specific connectors etc. I bought some Intel LGA 775 motherboards instead and moved on.
The MSI GTX 750 Ti LP will clear the CPU heatsink and fit perfectly. Another problem trying to get in a 1050 Ti or any double slot graphics card would be the rear metal frame and serial port being in the way. You might be able to get away with removing that part of the frame and the graphic card bracket if the cards second row ports are further away from the serial port but the CPU heatsink will still be a problem for longer cards.
I can also confirm the MSI GTX 1650 LP (HDMI and DVI only version) will fit in just barely and clears the heatsink by an eighth of an inch. That will require the double slot bracket on it to be removed but a single slot bracket from the GTX 750 Ti LP will work on it. There's also an official Dell riser card that lets you fit in any single slot full height card as long as it's short and can clear the heatsink.
You can get a Dell Precision T3500 on eBay for about $80 - $100. They all come with a 1366 Xeon (four or six core i7 CPU). And support up to 128 GBs of RAM. I bought one and put in a GTX 960, 12 GBs of Corsair XMS3 10600, and two 1 TB Drives with Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. (Upgraded from Windows 7 Ultimate.) The whole rig only costed about $380 and I can basically max out all my games at 1920x1200. (Or at least very high settings with MSAA turned down.)
Are you sure it's not the watch battery on the motherboard? I had that happen. I had to take the battery out, and replace it again and then the PC booted just fine. Some people confuse a bad battery with a dead PC. I still haven't replaced the battery and my PC is still working fine 6 years later.
Chances are that q6600 exceeded the the power draw limitations of that motherboard. i had a friend with a very similar system to that (his was a mid sized tower though) that he swapped a Core 2 quad q6600 in. a a week later the entire thing blew.
Noise of something in fan? maybe the heatsink fan if the PSU is ruled out. Or noise of strangled sound system replaying the last mS of the buffer repeatedly?
sounds like one of capacitors burst in the psu. Which is fair enough These PC's were used in almost every office 5 days a week for a full working day at minimum and the heat build up can be quite quick in these sff cases. Most PSU's have a MTBF of 50000 hours (6 years) 10 years was a good run
That's why you never want to rely on a prebuilt PC's accompanying PSU - unless ofc the supplier has decent standards. OEM's such as DELL, HP, Packard Bell and Lenovo tend to ship their PC's with the shadiest PSU's around. This advice is particularly important if you decide to upgrade a prebuilt system.
i acquired an optiplex 745 sff for free. it had blown caps.i just ordered a used motherboard for 25 dollars and it should be here Monday.wish me luck! good video by the way i enjoyed it.
That would've scared the shit out of me if my PC made a noise like that. Yeah, it's best to start over. Plenty of budget systems out there, and try to find something that isn't limited to low-profile and Mini PSU's.
Normally when I have a mobo go the system will normally still power on so to speak. The fans will come on and you will get lights to come on and nothing else. I suppose it is really down to where the failure was. By chance did you try to short the power pins just to make sure the power button did not go out? I would also say swap the RAM, I have had that prevent a PC from posting before.
just for info we used to have several hundred dells GX 520 /640 /755 the 755 were known for popping the motherboards, check the black electrolytic capacitors the the tops look bulged then they are dead.
I get and work on a lot of older PC's and yes it hurts more when you get it and it seems fine only a few days later it doesn't , but I still learn a lot in going through and finding out what happened and what got affected in the death. At five pounds you can not go wrong if the cpu - ram - hard drive are still usable . Thanks - Also First 65 or Older
I had a Dell board die due to bad capacitors. No explosions, just a few random times it wouldn't wanna power on, then me seemingly taking it apart and disconnecting a few things/etc "fixed" it then suddenly, dead one night :/ I think it's relatively common for Dell boards of that era to go due to bad caps.
I had a dell vostro 220 mini tower for years, you can pop a core 2 quad in it. And barely fit a r9 270x windforce in it. Not sure how cheap you can get a vostro 400 but I believe it has the same motherboard with 2 extra ram slots for max 8gb . I'd really recommend working with one of those.
Hi! I recently moded a motherboard (p5K SE) in order to fit a Xeon X5460 and as soon as I updated the bios it blew a mosfet. Cheap motherboards with weak VRMs are not suited for quad cores (the Q6600 in not a 130W tdp processor like the xeon X5460 I know) so it could be something of the sort that blew or indeed the PSU torched itself and took the MB with it as you mentioned. Careful when upgrading with cheap psus and MB with weak VRMs.
atleast it went out with a bang
Stroker Tuấn lol
That bad Dell mobo.
atleast i have this to cheer me up, my grandpa just died
Press F to pay respects
1:40 that intel chip dosent look healthy
Take out the CMOS battery (Bios battery), disconnect from the mains and then hit the power button. Replace the battery, plug it back in and try it. The sound you heard might have been something hitting one of the fans in the PSU or another part of the case. Usually, big name makers will cause the system to not start up if there was some kind of event that shut down the computer incorrectly. Worth a try.
Artisankat Studios i think he has already done this
Seems a likely culprit. Maybe a screw in the PSU was hitting the fan and shorted out the PSU. Plus, usually Dell (Especially! The small ones) use a non-standard wiring system for their PSUs. Some do and some don't, but I believe the small ones don't use a standard ATX wiring scheme.
A bad battery wouldn't do this, since a motherboard will POST just fine without the battery - It just won't remember anything once you turn it off.
The issue is not about a dead battery. Removal of the CMOS (Bios) battery will reset the 'System Events' and Bios settings. If there is a negative system event (Power failure, component failure), a lot of the manufacturers will prevent the computer from turning back on. Especially Dell and IBM. By unplugging the system, removing the CMOS battery and pressing the start button (Power on), this uses up the last bit of electricity in the system, thus clearing the system events record and bios settings.
+Artisankat Studios - that's good advice... could fix it!
RIP 5 dollar dell
2017-2017
Killer Tank *2008-2017
*2005-2017
Spacey 2008.
Teal *2020
CreeperGuy555 Oh, you must be fun in parties.
"MY PC EXPOLDED" (NO CLICKBAIT) - Storytime
would be a better title :P
*would be a RUclips 2017 typical title
No
Shiny not bad but a tad generic.
Shiny LOL
Tana Mongoose would be like "NEARLY KILLED BY MY COMPUTER (NOT A CLICKBAIT)"
*DUDE, THIS IS IMPORTANT! I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM!!!*
So the good message is: Probably your Board isn't dead! I think your CPU cooler died! Dell has a protective function in those boards to prevent users enabling it while the cooling is broken! How to fix that? Test if your cooler is broken! If not, just take it in place again and make shure nothing will interfere with it! Then unplug the pc from its power and take out the CMOS battery. Wait 24 hours and try again!
Rico Smith *Sure
But how to test if an OEM cooler is broken?
It'S not like he could just put a spare part in it's place.
he could it's still socket 775 so any socket 775 cooler will work. But it's a moot point. It has nothing to do with the cooler. Even if the CPU cooler dies, CPU's will shut itself off after a certain temperature around 80+C. It will still power up for a few minutes. It will give beep codes at the very least before shutting itself down. These beep codes sound in a specific pattern to identify the issue for troubleshooting. These are also for Dell support to identify the issue easily and quickly back when it was under warranty. If you can't even power up the thing there are one of two things wrong either your psu is faulty or your board is dead.
kohkaeable, I thought the same until I encountered that problem!
Actually, the mounting points are not for usual 775 coolers, so you'd
have to buy a new OEM cooler. But actually, if the CPU overheats the
board will prevent itself from getting powered on. This is pretty dumb, I
know, but thats my only explanation. So the pc worked again after some
days of giving up :D
And now I know you have no idea what you're talking about. CPU sockets and Heatsink mounting mounting holes ARE STANDARDISED. You said yourself you bought an OEM cooler. OEMs manufacture to standardised specs not to one off sizes. I don't think you understand what an OEM is if you think they make custom sizes.
I like the enthusiasm you display. Your experiments like this one, are amusing to me. I have dug into old boxes mostly because someone was paying me to either resurrect it or fix it. You have no fear and due to your low budget; not much ventured, much knowledge gained. Kudos man. You keep on keepin' on.
*You could have just used a GPU RISER / EXTENTION CABLE to make the 1050 or any other sized GPU fit. If the PC wouldn't have been fried, though.*
Could have been that the PSU was just too old. They alter from time to time. The higher TDP of the CPU just gave her the rest.
Emperor LemonFace That would increase the cost dramatically!!
You'd still need to secure it somehow if you used a riser cable - Which means DIY drilling and so on.
powering it on increased the cost dramatically;p
*Anthony N, you can buy one from Ebay for a couple dollars! xD*
I knew that some day it would happen to some youtuber using those crappy PSUs... but hey, great video anyways, keep it up :)
when a GTX 295 X 2 dies in fumes it looks like a JET taking off
NVIDIA and AMD secretly are monopolizing the market, they released a GTX version of the 295X2 to the chineses.
right click the name "GTX 295 x2" and select Search google for GTX 295 x2. IMAGES
I got 3 GTX 295 x2 2 exploded and one its still UP with artifacts
lmao
Does the GTX 295x2 has 4 GPUs in it? Because the "normal" 295 already is a dual card.
Yes, along with 69GB of HBM3 (its a top-secret memory technology), 1666MHz clock and 7777MHz memory.
I am just staggered at your ability to procure super-budget parts. Well done! Thank you for all your hard work.
Did you reset the CMOS jumper?
There is also a low profile GTX 1050 ti
Adam Ladd name?
Adam Ladd doesn't matter. it's too big for this case anyway.
*COUGH COUGH* bottle neck *COUGH COUGH COUGH*
ImWolffie I'd give it a try anyway, the bottleneck wouldn't be massive if it were to be one.
www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137081&cm_re=gtx_1050-_-14-137-081-_-Product
Could only be described as "Sticking a spoon in a blender"
CorbettHD that made me laugh so damn hard, especially becausr you could tell he was being serioud
xD
gotem
The question is: What kind of spoon? (Shape? Material?)
rest in peace dell computer, you will be missed ;(
Aww who am i kidding, those things are dirt cheap XD
MeDo_LasH Learn how to speak to people before commenting there is no need to insult him because he spelled cheap wrong.
+Mr duck , couldn't have said it better myself ^_^
Not where I am, I've been looking around a lot lately as I plan on a similar Project, I have never seen any of those go under 30€ except once where it was around 15 bucks but I slept too long and it was gone. Those that have the Q6600 or other Quad Cores from Factory reach at least 50€ most of the time and while still being rather cheap for a PC it's still too much for a 100€ or less gaming PC that I want to have.
i can only find these for $100 where are y'all getting them for $30
In Germany, it's in Euros and so slightly more than 30$ and as I said mostly they are even more expensive
What are your thoughts on the upcomming ryzen cpu's?
Deadguy1988 badass cpu better then i7 6600k though and its only 500$ but I like intels cpu but I would totally buy a ryzen line cpu
UHHHHH... Is the i7 6600K a limited edition? Because the only socket 1151 i7 I know are 6700(K) and 7700(K). (im joking k, i know theres no i7 6600K, you might be talking about the i5 6600K)
Nope
Lucas Amaro its limited 😂😂it costs 1050$
There's no such thing as a Core i7 6600K. Did you mean i7 6900K? That costs +1000$ and was compared to the 500$ R7 1800X.
Yep, classic psu blew symptoms, I've had a new corsair psu blow on me one day after I bought it
Awww, i was super excited to see this come to fruition, promise you'll do another build similar to this! D:
coonyman10 I will, and cheaper if that's possible haha
RandomGaminginHD I like to see you build various sff pc's cause I have one of my own and I want to see what can I add in there for a better performance and good luck though :)
These things happen. Maybe hit up IBM and purchase one of their Magic Smoke Refill canisters and pump it into the offending component and it should run as good as new!
XD True Though
PPPPHHH
does anyone know a good budget game pc with Max 700€
order the hardware components and build it yourself. Thats the cheapest way
Da Boss yeah that is what I was planning for but I' not sure what the best part are and amd zyen is soon coming out.
1tb-8gb ram-rx480 4g-i5 6400 or 6500-h110m mobo-some 40 euros case-500w psu
i5-7500
AMD RX 480
8GB of RAM
1TB HDD
128GB SSD
Buy used. I just spent £400 on a secondary PC and it has an i5 3470, 8GB RAM, R9 390X, decent M-ATX mobo, EVGA 650W BQ and in a Fractal Design Mini C.
just to mention: you can use pcie extender to connect any gpu to this
TurboCMinusMinus sorry, I forgot this PSU don't have external GPU power connector
love your voice
surcix2004 yeah is so cool and chill
kermit the frog here
MakkerFelix 😏
his voice is gay
i love this channel. most of the main pc channels focus on newer, higher tech parts then theres this one. where we try and build a pc for as cheap as possible. keep up the good RandomGaminginHD!
Keyword : Gpu extender!
or Pci-e Riser
The motherboard may not be dead. I've seen Dells that for some strange reason use a different pinout for the power, and won't send the proper "ok" signal for the power supply to turn on.
Do any caps look bad? Maybe a re-cap is in order.
LOL........Think if the PC exploded..........People would have blamed SAMSUNG instead.....!!!!!
And we would'nt be seeing any more budget gaming rig vids from this channel..........cause RGH would've died
Bonus: 2:03 seducing the pc
...What? Why would they blame Samsung? How is Samsung involved with the making of this Dell or its PSU? Why are you mentioning nearly 6 month old news? I have so many questions for this comment...
NOTE 7 TECHNOLOGY ON SAMSUNG USED IN THIS
you really are one of the most genuine youtubers out there, kudos for trying, pity it burned out on you, but better sooner than later,right? keep on posting bro!
KFA2 750ti single slot single does fit in this case but unfortunately the pc blew but if u can get another optiplex that's the graphics card to go for.
wizzgamer It does not. I have the meditower version of the dell he has. I do have the Kfa2 GTX 750 ti in my system, however I had to buy a pcie extender to fit the card in
Budget gaming is sometimes a gamble. A few months ago I picked up a 3 year old Acer aspire with a mobile pentium J2900 processor, 8gb of ram and a 1Tb hard drive for $20 (USD) and dropped a rx 460 I had around to make a cheap gaming PC for my kids and so far it has worked flawlessly. The greatness of the silicon lottery.
Congrats on breaking 100k subs!
Also, you can always use a PCI-E riser to connect the 1050.
OEM PSUs are some of the scariest things i've ever encountered. I've had an eMachines one eject sparks out the fan exhaust before it died.
You could also upgrade the case, motherboard and power supply before upgrading the gpu.
Great to see your channel doing well mate, nice that a real, good guy can be successful with no BS :)
I had this exact same problem in 2013 with a brand new AMD FX build. Was absolutely gutted. The problem was exactly as you'd explained, the PSU went bang and took the board with it.
Thanks for not making a clickbait title.. You're a gem in the trashpile that is youtube.
That's one thing that plagued the Optiplex 330/320s that my technical school used. usually about two per week with half that not even being able to post or boot normally. It was the motherboard that went without warning and Dell Tech Support only worked if you demanded what you needed. Namely, yet another motherboard. I'm sorry it happened to you, as well, but as many of these things Dell pumped out back in the day, it likely came with the territory.
I've had a couple similar things occur to me over the decades, the most spectacular was about 3 or 4 years ago an aging PS Unit zapped and blew with a resounding pop of capacitors and took out my Mobo + CPU + RAM and to top it off it took out the circuit breaker powering the ac outlet.
Yes I replaced the circuit breaker too along with the entire PC as it was best to start with new components.
I was able to recycle things like the HDD's and even the GPU was working fine.
It was quite interesting hearing that sound and then seeing the "Magic Smoke" as some like to call it ;)
Not all is lost. You can modify the dell to fit that small form factor 1050. Cutting a bit off the plastic shell of the heatsync won't be a problem, and you don't exactly have to leave the brackets on their either.
no problem! We can wait a few weeks for the new budget build!
I had a cheap, poor PSU pop a huge cap on boot once. Autopsy revealed the innards of the unit were pretty evenly covered in little bits of paper and gunk. Hearing an explosion on power-up probably never stops to startle.
Irony - I bought an Optiplex 760 midtower, and the PSU I swapped into it did the same exact thing.
Now it's running a Corsair with a single-rail 12V, and after coercing it with shorting out the green line, the system works like a champ.
That's exactly what happened to my Dell E520, aside from the spoon blender noise, that I planned on upgrading. Won't even power on with a temporary PSU transplant. I suspect it blew a cap or something.
You can use a pci-e extendor to try to fit those gpus into such compact builds
Hi, you could check the power good on the dell's psu. Just loop a wire from the green cable connector to the black cable connector next to it on the atx connector. If the fan runs, then it is the motherboard as it has to give a power good signal to the psu for it to power on. Then you can check the main capacitors on the motherboard with a multimeter. They are the most common failure of motherboards. They are easily changed and cheap to do.
No need for apologies :) I'm not sure if that card but it's either been too big a drain on the PSU or maybe you just got unlucky with it.
I think the idea still has merit for those on the smallest of budgets. I think stretching the budget to the Vostro i5 range is the route I'd advise people, the PSU and case is bigger and I believe the PSU can possibly be switched with better, bigger wattage units. I sourced one before Xmas for my brother and stuck my spare Gtx750 in it and his boy is loving it.
Love this channel, keep up the great work! It'd be great to always be getting bleeding edge kit but the reality is (if you look at Steam GPU polls) most can't and are looking for the best bang per buck.
Looks forward to your next project :)
Look for blown caps. they are easy to swap out. Ive fixed tons of mobo's with less then $10 in parts with a multimeter and a soldering iron.
bring it back to life! this pc is an icon! it is the mascot of the channel
I have subscribed, it's my way of remembering the brave, plucky little $5 Dell. It's gone to Silicon Heaven, which is where all the little calculators go.
I have a hp sff pc and it was a pain to upgrade still I manage to fit a lp 7750 hd to play a few games.
We had a Dell a few years back that went dark as well. No horrible noises, but it was completely dead. Seems like the custom solutions from Dell aren't made for lasting for ever :P
The optiplex mid towers of the same line are decent, but you need a single slot gpu and make sure it's no longer that 7 inches.
A grinding noise makes me think the PSU fan had some issue and with no fan the heat got out of control and killed it.
you can go for a full size dell optiplex 755 so you can fit a big graphicscard in there.
Did u check CPU cooler if its working? Some MB wont start if CPU cooler fail, try also replacing battery on ur MB
had a similar issue with a SFF Optiplex GX620, opend up the PSU after that and it had a couple of burnt parts in it.
It was previously used in a workshop and i guess the Dust in the PSU made it shortcut (sanding dust etc.)
The last time I was at this channel lad was at 20k good job
Have you considered using a 775 motherboard and trying to put a quad core xeon in it with a 771-775 conversion, 775 boards (which are not proprietary junk like dell or hp) can be found relatively cheap, lots of bundles on ebay too including ram and coolers etc, i put one together for my nephew as his first Gaming PC, worked out really well, so I'm doing another one to use for older games for myself.
I have a recommendation for you. Buy a Dell Dimension 9200. I just looked on Ebay, this PC goes anywhere from $60 to $100. It is similar to the Optiplex hardware wise, but the difference is that it is a full size tower. I recently helped a friend upgrade his, and we went with a Q6600 CPU and a GTX 1050 GPU. We got some really good gameplay results with War Thunder running above 60 FPS on maxed out settings. All the upgrades were done for under $300. This PC would make a great budget build and a good replacement for the Optiplex, especially considering you can put a full size GPU into this one. We didn't even need to upgrade the stock 375 Watt PSU, and if you want to add a more powerful GPU, it has an extra 6-pin connector on it already!
Hi, it would be really interesting to do a video with the PSU disassembly to see the damage.
I'd try and see what did make it go bang. I'd be interested in a video series as you try and find out what caused it.
The 1050 ti doesn't fit in this system? Good thing you posted this. I actually just got an Optiplex 745 SFF for $20 (US) and was planning on doing very similar upgrades. Instead I think I'll either be putting in an R7 250 1GB GDDR5 or a R7 240 2GB GDDR3. I've found the 250 on Newegg for about $45 shipped and the R7 240 for $20 on Craigslist. Still not sure which one to go with since the R7 is a pretty good deal for price to performance.
check the cpu and out put, but if it did fried the board look at the compactor and see if the large one poped, and just replace it, super easy on those old boards
Can you make rewiew about ibm thinkpad t60?
It went pop because the power supply could not power the 120w tdp CPU. And you also had a graphics card that needed at least 30watts. Another thing also, did you check CPU Temps? That stock cooler is designed for 75-80watt CPUs
My guess was that the power supply (being most likely low quality on top of being older) blew under any extra strain the Q6600 put on it. Especially since the older a PSU is, the less reliable it is to be able to output its maximum power threshold. I know proprietary PSUs in those systems are notoriously poor, so it seemed like only a matter of time before it blew :(
Our school still uses those dells :(
i had the same think happen to me with a pentium 4 2.70ghz motherboard, when i installed a new power suply the light whent on but the fans and the motherboard didn't do anything (the light shows when it has power) and i don't belive that is fixable
Try changing out the CMOS battery, I was watching a video from Carey Holzman's channel and he had an issue with a system not powering on. After he changed the CMOS battery, it powered on. Try that real quick.
What I'd do is work on a medium form factor ATX motherboard, since they tend to be easier for tampering.
You could go with a Dell Optiplex Minitower PC, it uses a standard PSU and has the same upgradability and then some. There are a lot for cheap too since they used to be used a lot in offices but are now outdated due to the new Optiplexes, similar to why the ssf is so cheap.
I feel your pain, as I had a Dell Optiplex 780 SFF die on me recently. I fiddled for several days but finally took the CPU and RAM out. I decided to move on as I didn’t want to pour money into something that has Dell specific connectors etc. I bought some Intel LGA 775 motherboards instead and moved on.
The MSI GTX 750 Ti LP will clear the CPU heatsink and fit perfectly. Another problem trying to get in a 1050 Ti or any double slot graphics card would be the rear metal frame and serial port being in the way. You might be able to get away with removing that part of the frame and the graphic card bracket if the cards second row ports are further away from the serial port but the CPU heatsink will still be a problem for longer cards.
I can also confirm the MSI GTX 1650 LP (HDMI and DVI only version) will fit in just barely and clears the heatsink by an eighth of an inch. That will require the double slot bracket on it to be removed but a single slot bracket from the GTX 750 Ti LP will work on it. There's also an official Dell riser card that lets you fit in any single slot full height card as long as it's short and can clear the heatsink.
You can get a Dell Precision T3500 on eBay for about $80 - $100.
They all come with a 1366 Xeon (four or six core i7 CPU). And support up to 128 GBs of RAM.
I bought one and put in a GTX 960, 12 GBs of Corsair XMS3 10600, and two 1 TB Drives with Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. (Upgraded from Windows 7 Ultimate.)
The whole rig only costed about $380 and I can basically max out all my games at 1920x1200. (Or at least very high settings with MSAA turned down.)
you should try the FSB mod with the q6600 and see what kind of performance it yeilds
Are you sure it's not the watch battery on the motherboard? I had that happen. I had to take the battery out, and replace it again and then the PC booted just fine. Some people confuse a bad battery with a dead PC. I still haven't replaced the battery and my PC is still working fine 6 years later.
No surge protection on older hardware?
Chances are that q6600 exceeded the the power draw limitations of that motherboard. i had a friend with a very similar system to that (his was a mid sized tower though) that he swapped a Core 2 quad q6600 in. a a week later the entire thing blew.
If you can get it to boot up (even without video), these dells have trouble codes. The leds on the front light up and will flash a code.
Don't worry man. I will always support your channel.
Noise of something in fan? maybe the heatsink fan if the PSU is ruled out.
Or noise of strangled sound system replaying the last mS of the buffer repeatedly?
It was to be expected. I was surprised it could boot up from the beginning.
Can't you change out the heatsink?
did u check the HDD? I've heard some weird noises from those damn things...
you cant use regular psus fordells ! they use propriety connectors sometimes !
sounds like one of capacitors burst in the psu. Which is fair enough These PC's were used in almost every office 5 days a week for a full working day at minimum and the heat build up can be quite quick in these sff cases. Most PSU's have a MTBF of 50000 hours (6 years) 10 years was a good run
That's why you never want to rely on a prebuilt PC's accompanying PSU - unless ofc the supplier has decent standards. OEM's such as DELL, HP, Packard Bell and Lenovo tend to ship their PC's with the shadiest PSU's around. This advice is particularly important if you decide to upgrade a prebuilt system.
i acquired an optiplex 745 sff for free. it had blown caps.i just ordered a used motherboard for 25 dollars and it should be here Monday.wish me luck! good video by the way i enjoyed it.
That would've scared the shit out of me if my PC made a noise like that.
Yeah, it's best to start over. Plenty of budget systems out there, and try to find something that isn't limited to low-profile and Mini PSU's.
Normally when I have a mobo go the system will normally still power on so to speak. The fans will come on and you will get lights to come on and nothing else. I suppose it is really down to where the failure was. By chance did you try to short the power pins just to make sure the power button did not go out? I would also say swap the RAM, I have had that prevent a PC from posting before.
just for info we used to have several hundred dells GX 520 /640 /755 the 755 were known for popping the motherboards, check the black electrolytic capacitors the the tops look bulged then they are dead.
they do make pcie raiser board's and ribbon cable's.
I get and work on a lot of older PC's and yes it hurts more when you get it and it seems fine only a few days later it doesn't , but I still learn a lot in going through and finding out what happened and what got affected in the death. At five pounds you can not go wrong if the cpu - ram - hard drive are still usable . Thanks - Also First 65 or Older
why not just by a pci riser for the card, minus the pc breaking?
I'd start over too. If you were replacing the mobo though couldn't you find one that was better layed out and use the 1050?
Can't believe she's gone- RIP $5 Dell you'll not be forgotten...
I had the exact same Dell PC for a long time! Slightly different case style though.
I had a Dell board die due to bad capacitors. No explosions, just a few random times it wouldn't wanna power on, then me seemingly taking it apart and disconnecting a few things/etc "fixed" it then suddenly, dead one night :/ I think it's relatively common for Dell boards of that era to go due to bad caps.
I had a dell vostro 220 mini tower for years, you can pop a core 2 quad in it. And barely fit a r9 270x windforce in it. Not sure how cheap you can get a vostro 400 but I believe it has the same motherboard with 2 extra ram slots for max 8gb . I'd really recommend working with one of those.
Nice one, but in the original video you mentioned you've bought two of these DELLs? So what happened to the second one?
Hi! I recently moded a motherboard (p5K SE) in order to fit a Xeon X5460 and as soon as I updated the bios it blew a mosfet. Cheap motherboards with weak VRMs are not suited for quad cores (the Q6600 in not a 130W tdp processor like the xeon X5460 I know) so it could be something of the sort that blew or indeed the PSU torched itself and took the MB with it as you mentioned. Careful when upgrading with cheap psus and MB with weak VRMs.
May I suggest the Raspberry Pi 3?