***** Clean Air Act of 1970, development of nuclear power, a centralized power grid, CARB, invention of fuel injection and major advances in the internal combusion engine, the fuel crisis, silicone valley, etc. Ask anyone who lived through the 60s and 70s and they will tell you about the huge improvement in air quality before the collapse of the steel industry and the American manufacturing.
Why don't they just put a filter ontop of the coal stacks? Just get all the carbon particles before they even get in the air.... Seems a lot easier and cheaper.
Haven't you watched the video? - the point is not to provide a scalable solution, but to give people incentive to change their behavior. Or you thought they literally talked about carrots there?
+Vugz Hir China refuses to incorporate adequate carbon footprint restrictions onto factories as they fear it would challege their ability to produce cheap products for the international market. It has been a hot topic for many many years now. Chinese citizens have been trying to take matters into their own hands, but their hands have been tied. This is just one technology to help control factory pollution without making the factories do it. It is not the right solution, but it will at least make them feel a little less helpless, and allow them to show they care.
Richard Smith China has already dropped drastically their coal usage.. I hope every country would change to nuclear energy for this transition time, until we find better solution..
"Chinese citizens have been trying to take matters into their own hands, but their hands have been tied" ok so what? why are you faking empathy for the Chinese people? want to create another iraq, libya or syria out of that? you should be happy and let the chinese produce more smog since this will eventually cause chinese nation to suffocate to death and the west will win the cold war
would've made for a good ending, "In Memory Of Shawn Basset who was tragically killed by a train as you just saw." Next video... "How we can make louder trains"
Mrgruntastic not everything is so black and white that people are ancaps and anarchists. I'm not sure what anyone's political views have to do with any of the comments here.
I am living in Beijing now for 7 years,. It is incredible what has happened in those 7 years. The first year was really super polluted and now at the start of 2020 I haven't seen a polluted day in the past 6 months. Great job mate. I am also from Netherland and I apreciate what you have done. Keep going..
How about setting up some environmental industry regulations instead of this bullshit device. Fix the problem by not creating it... not by polluting with no regard then trying to clean it up.
china relies heavily on industry for economic growth but its expansion is slowing down. imposing regulations will further slow down the growth thus not worth it. (in chinese government's perspective)
They try to change to be better environmentally - for example china has a plan to cut on meat consumption by half for example I hope china is successful in all this changes
Soon a *_Chinese billionaire_* will buy this tech + *_Sell_* it to upscale condos & cars for the Chinese middle/upper class + the *_poor Chinese_* will keep dying of Cancer.
what do you mean BUY THIS TECH? its a friggin ionizer. i had one in my bedroom IN THE EIGHTIES. they are nothing new. just that the average yuppie doesn't know about anything that doesn't come from walmart or they haven't seen advertised. there is TONS of technology out there that the average joe has no clue about. and I own plenty of things that use those odd technologies.
***** cardboard house I won, solar powered fridge in my house, propane powered freezer, you ever seen those thermos flasks that the 2 sides flip out with mirrors on them and you have an evactuated tube in there (like new solar hot water technology). it looks like a thermos flask but actually heats the water in it. solar cooking dishes, common in india and china. then there is stirling engines which I show on my channel (most not running, they even had an austrian made desk fan), plus a steam powered sawmill, steam powered earth moving, gasification which is running petrol vehicles off gas extracted from wood by pyrolisis (I done a video with The Do It Yourself World where I improvised one with a coffee tin), peltiers and thermo electric generators, Titanium Dioxide air purifiers. quite a number of these things are on my channel which you would find with the search bit on my channels front page.
Link Knight Lol, Its not just an ionizer you nob, The problem in the past was creating durable filters that could filter such tiny particles as the once viewed in this video, If you are seriously arsing around and saying we have not come a single step forward in technology since the 80's. then sir you have no clue
Back in the day, America was huge on industry! We never had issues like China because we have something called the EPA, and enforce our environmental regulations on companies that manufactured here. This is the very reason why companies moved to China; they don't enforce environmental regulations (or even child labor) making manufacturing very cheap. We are not to blame, China is to blame. I always choose American over Chinese products whenever available. Its the least I can do. But yes, you have a point, we should stop buying Chinese stuff as it makes the issue more global.
Regardless of whether you can compare now to then, the fact of the matter is that China does not enforce laws for protecting the environment and air quality. Thus it is their problem. If they enforced these laws, cost of manufacture would go up, and wasteful manufacture would go down.
It's basically just a guy making a park that has significantly reduced smog. Not really solving an issue. More like placing a band-aid on a massive wound.
Because that would be another cost. The reason all countries gather their manufacturing factories in China is because it is cheap. If China increases the cost for a foreign company to make their products in China, then the company will go somewhere else where it is cheaper, and does not have costly environmental friendly regulations. It's easy to think it's China's problem, when in fact it is a matter of supply and demand, which involves both the supplier and buyer.
If this thing uses coal energy to power it, it in turn produces smog. My question is does it break even, does it process more smog than it produces by electric plants?
Now your a real dynamic thinker. This guy has the right idea. We need more human beings thinking the way you do, Problem solvers and solutions based thinkers. Those are the real progressives. We need Progress, and not people that refuse to solve issues in a smart way because it affects their political base.
My pleasure. Just keep asking those kinds of questions and you'll make everyone's life better. Ignore the haters. Just about every great invention started with the words: Why not use this to create that?
***** because it's not economically viable. Consider that the collected particulate is heavily contaminated, not pure carbon. It's really not a good starting material. I really think this is probably one of the best ways they could use the collected smog. Not only does it help to finance these systems, but it makes a clear point, creates something nice, and gets the topic discussed. Take a ring, or earrings. Every time someone comments on them to someone wearing them, that's a chance to start the discussion. People also tend to like those little things that say "I'm helping!" so I can see them being fairly popular.
Better yet, put it inside the smokestack. This has been done for decades in the United States and in Europe. It's called a "precipitator" when it is designed to capture solid particles or a "scrubber" for gases. Coal-fired plants usually use a combination of the two, so the only thing coming out of the stack is water and carbon dioxide. The only way to emit less pollution is to use nuclear energy instead.
Only are handling the problem, they are not solving the problem. We want clean energy and no more manipulation of powerful industries. (Solo están manejando el problema, no están solucionando el problema. Queremos energías limpias y no mas manipulacion de industrias poderosas).
Did you watch the video? Half the video is them talking about just that. The entire point is to create a contrast to battle normalization of the issue. Nobody is ever going to do anything if they are so accustomed to pollution that they don't care. But if there is one pollution-free place they can go and breathe fresh air, that will inspire people and set the standard they should strive for. It's a way to strengthen the clean energy effort.
@Mr Cabot And you're too ignorant to know what "Nuclear" is. Currently most reactors run off fission. But fusion, which we are currently attempting at making it self sufficient is even cleaner then fission. There are many types of fuel and reactions that are in theory extremely beneficial. just lack the funding for the research to be done.
I agree, this isn't the solution to air pollution ( global issue) because it costs a lot of resources and energy to create these filters in the first place. The only solution that doesn't involve extra waste is to change our way of living, our perspective on the environment. The ecosystem isn't here to serve us, there are millions of other species that's going to be affected by our actions.
In the netherlands trains are not trains. The whole train system is more a metro system in the netherlands. *so NEVER stand on top of the track* because you wont hear em and there are a lot of trains
i thought about this in the 90s and again the idea came back a few years ago. those buckets of carbon can be used in 3d printers. and then other elements can also be mined out of the air along with water in humid states like Florida. we could also take out pollens of harmful plants like rag weed and cool the air before being released into cities as fresh air. if every city had one we would be closer to a cooler future.
Ellavina *"The cost to run the park in its entirety is the equivalent of a household vacuum cleaner."* And how much particulate matter does that create from coal burning? That doesn't answer the fucking question. People don't seem to understand that technology doesn't clean up the environment, it pollutes it. If there was no electricity, no automobiles, no heating, we'd live in an entirely pristine natural environment - in the stone age.
+fuzzywzhe As they mentioned in the video, this isn't a solution to the problem. If you live in a place that always has smog and have never experienced what it's like without it, you wouldn't reasonably push for it's removal. This is to give people a taste test, that's it. Also the key factor is more efficient technologies pollute the environment less. Sure electric running off renewable electricity still pollute in the manufacturing process, but they do it far less than combustion engine cars.
+fuzzywzhe The park consumes 1,700 Watts. A typical coal power plant produces 500,000,000 Watts. The answer to your "fucking question" is "not very fucking much". Keep things in perspective, man.
+fuzzywzhe Allow me rephrase. The answer to "how much particulate matter does that create from coal burning" is: "insignificant because it uses virtually no power, and inconsequential because its purpose is not to clean the fucking pollution you dumb fucking idiot." It's an art project to remind the people immersed in air pollution of what it's like without air pollution. It's not a proposed solution. Did you watch before commenting?
Ben Simmons *"Allow me rephrase. The answer to "how much particulate matter does that create from coal burning" is: "insignificant because it uses virtually no power"* And it cleans virtually no air, dummy. When will you MORONS understand that energy consumption by technology ALWAYS creates pollution? Always. Even with solar energy, the reason it takes 7 years to recoup the cost of the cells it takes 7 years of energy to make the cells. They are sold at almost no margin. After 7 years, yeah, you're golden.
Sadly, it is not that easy to "stop the polluting". To put it in perspective, China produces ~70% of it's power from burning coal which is roughly 13,252,000,000,000,000,000 joules in 2014 alone. To run a 100 watt light-bulb for 1 year straight you would need 3,162,240,000 joules of energy. So the amount of power China alone creates from coal can run 4,190,000,000 100 watt light-bulbs for a year. For future reference a joule is equal to one watt.
>.> They forget that the vacuum will suck air in, therefore the closer you are to the machine, the more of the smog that will be inhaled. So only the border between say, 2-3 of these machines would be a safe zone, as that is where the air will be sucked FROM, not to.
1:40 I love how the Chinese environmental expert they interview totally avoids the obvious other problem: there are no pollution controls mandated by the government.
Robert Zraick Retooling and reinfrastructure costs. If we were buying our energy supply now, we would buy solar and wind for local use close to home. The current cost of wind is actually cheaper than coal and solar cheaper than gas and nuclear. We would not have to pay for the grid, the millions of tons of wire, the steel towers and transformer cores, the trillions of dollars for nuclear reactors, mining, processing and clean up, the coal fired generators, the mines and mining equipment, the trucks, the trains to haul it, the wear on the highway system from heavy trucking, but now we have to replace all that with solar panels and thermosolar generators and wind turbines situated locally and without much grid to shuttle power around, we merely will have to move a small percentage of electricity around to meet shortages due to wind or sun decreases. And we also have to super insulate our homes and buildings, instead of having built them properly in the first place. Add earth source geothermal with surface earth insulation and that's housing. Then eliminate transport of things grown locally, only ship stuff that has to be grown or made elsewhere, and do it by slow wind powered trains with sails, and restructure cities to have work near the workers, and stop lighting all the unoccupied streets at night, and the earth will recover. THAT'S why we don;t have it, and how we will now have to.
rstevewarmorycom I was only commenting on Cballin's statement about solar energy and electric cars. I thought is a but simplistic. The problem regarding the energy need of our civilization are pretty complex. I agree with what you posted. When we first started to burn fossil fuels, particularly oil and its derivatives, we were enticed by how easy it was and we did not make the best use of it. I would like to se the grid eliminated. Every home built with the ability to power itself and every car be totally electric and chargable at home. We are going to have some problem with air travel as there does not seem to be a viable alternative to jet fuel. Everything else is too heavy (a plane trying to fly loaded with enough batteries would just never get off the ground. Perhaps that can be address with synthesizing hydrocarbons. I think we could put motion sensors on street lighting so that they would only light when needed. Things are going to change.
Robert Zraick Efficiency is the reason for centralized burning of fossil fuels, if you are going to use fossil fuels the largest possible generation equipment is very much more efficient. But losses on the required grid very nearly eat up that advantage, so you're right about solar and wind anyway, and perhaps neighborhood fossil fuel supplementation. Also, centralized laundry and refrigeration is waaay more efficient, as is recapture of waste heat from manufacturing for heating purposes and cogeneration for chemical processes. There are ways to synthesize butanol and biodiesel that could be used for medical helicopters and some air travel, They have a plane or two that run solely on canola oil, the military wanted to know that. And yes, street lighting controls and store lighting controls are big ways to save power. The key to transport being lower energy is to make enclosed two and three wheeled battery-powered vehicles with light weather shells that run on small electric motors, typically under a kWatt. That and rail should do it.
rstevewarmorycom I had never heard about a plane running on canola oil. Thanks for that. Just curious, was it a jet? In any case I am encouraged to hear about it. The time to work in developing strategies for a post fossil fuel world is now.
they don't hurt ozone (O3)... it's a gaseous compound and is difficult to filter out. not like there would be much there anyways. the sulfur and hydrocarbons make pretty short work of Ozone particles.
BAD FOR THE OZONE? get off the drugs. i HAD ONE of these ionizers in my bedroom as a kid. its like an electrostatic charge in the way it makes all of the airborne particles fall to the ground. it has NOTHING to do with gasses that may harm the ozone. you think that something with a top consumption of a lousy 1500 watts, less powerful than an electric kettle is going to screw up some layer of gas 60 kilometers up! you don't know ozone from bath salts.
Link Knight actually it does effect O3 particles (ozone) but not so bad that it would hurt the part of the O zone that helps us. Ozone in your house isn't good. just because it's 1 more oxygen molecule larger than O2 doesn't mean it's good for us (to be fair it would take a very large amount of arching electricity to produce enough 0zone to hurt some one. ps- when you create a large static shock then smell that weird ionized air- a small part of that air is Ozone
After reading some comments, most of them completely based in fantasy, I had to scroll up to remember what the hell the video was about. And dam, almost had one less ignorant activist to worry about imposing their will over mine. Thought I remembered a denial in there somewhere.
What about the Ozone that these give off? Has this company figured out a way to not produce ozone while ionizing the air? Some of the known effects of ozone exposure include: susceptibility to respiratory infection, coughing, difficulty breathing, lung damage and decreased lung capacity. These look a lot like the symptoms of smog exposure.
Wouldn't it be easier to catch the pollution at a it's source before it is released? Besides this concept wouldn't work on a large scale as prevailing winds would blow in more dirty air faster than it can be cleaned. The only way it could actually be able to create a pocket of clean air is if they put the device inside a dome.
> Wouldn't it be easier to catch the pollution at a it's source before it is released? Sure, this would be true. But I think the energy companies of China find that carbon(particulate)-capture tech to be too expensive to filter out all of the carbon particulates.
**Make a video about how the train operator didn't even blow the whistle. 2 seconds was the time from him standing to him looking left then walking off the tracks. Death 2 seconds away. So lucky!**
Excellent video, keep up the amazing work that y'all do. Y'all keep the people informed unlike fox, cnn, and all those other cable news networks that are in the pockets of corporations and politicians.
About 16 years ago I bought a thing from Sharper Image called Ionic Breeze and it cleared out the air in my apartment that was coming up from the smokers in the apartment below mine. It used very little electricity. Why didn't anyone think of ionizing city air sooner?
I remember reading a Mickey Mouse comic as a kid, where his inventor friend (Kyro? Gyro?) made a similar device. It would suck all the smog from above the city, and compress it into a little black cube. I remember thinking "Why has noone thought of making this in real life?" And now someone did. This is so surreal!
It seems not. But China is going for Green energy, hydro, solar, wind and slowly retiring coal power plants. The air quality has improved... Abet still some decades away to clean air
This is similar to how beeswax candle works to purify air, when you burn beeswax candle it releases negative ions that attracted to soot, dust, pollen and other particulate indoor pollutant; make them heavier and fall to the ground.
There is another method, standing waves between powerful (highly efficient) piezo-electric transducers, they pack the particles together so they drop down and can be collected.
How much smog does a power plant produce making the 1100 watts required to run the vacuum per 24 hr period compared to the amount of smog the vacuum removes per 24 hr period?
Really hope this reaches it's goal. It's also nice to hear someone talk about how the developed world also used to have this problem st some point in time.
Something I'm just curious about... Isn't that ionic field a laser? If so, how yould you manage ozone production? Isn't it as dangerous as the pollutants being sucked out?
We need to not only awaken people to the truth and help them fix their bad habits, but we also need to take action to fix this world. We have the ability to do so.
If only it were possible to install living roofs and vertical gardens on all these buildings.. they would clean the air and lower the temperature of the city itself as well as attracting beneficial wildlife and insects. Could you imagine zip-lining through downtown Beijing? Through a dense and intricate canopy full of beautiful plants and trees only to look below and see thriving city life.. What an incredible experience and reality this would be.. where big cities like these were a source of clean air and water, maybe even supplying themselves with rooftop crops? As smart as this vacuum idea is, I feel like its still walking against the current.
As of January 1, 2018, the Beijing air pollution has drastically decreased due to the strict environmental controls implemented by the government. Aside from the closing down of many factories, many were moved to different provinces. It's not a permanent solution but it helped a great deal for now.
When Beijing hosted the APEC summit they forbade all pollution from factories, cars etc. This made the sky turn blue again, hence the chinese call it " apec blue" www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1643740/farewell-apec-blue-smog-returns-beijing-following-summit
A clean park is a good place to begin thinking about solutions. When oil is all gone in 50 years, and we're using Fusion for electricity all over the world and have diversified methods of transportation out of necessity, everyone will say, "damn Man, look at all the ways we could have used fossil fuels creatively for centuries and centuries...."
1.1 to 1.5 KW/h to run (6:00 in the video) 1 ton of coal burned = 8 141 MW/h (8 141 000 KW/h) Using the power produced by a ton of burned coal will make this machine run from 5 427 333 to 7 400 909 hours. If you get more that a ton of solid material out of the air in that much time, it can be a viable solution. It all depends on what material are used to make the machine and how much it costs.
Nic Hil They already do, just not in china, because of lack of enforcement of clean air policies. google "power plant electrostatic precipitator" this device being showcased here is technology first developed in the 1950's and has been in use in powerplants around the world, you can even buy some for your home but they are a bitch to clean and produce some ozone. google " electrostatic precipitator" and click on the "shopping" search option. China is legally requiring power plants to use thee "scrubber" technologies but is not enforcing the use of these "scrubber" technologies because of the political unrest they would experience if suddenly the entire country was hit by power shortages caused by retrofitting or retiring of non-retrofittable power plants (which is most of them). This is why they are desperately rushing Nuclear power with Renewable power: they need enough baseload capacity still operational to keep the people happy when China decides to finally enforce the clean air laws.
How do they deal with winds? It seems like this would only work if the air was really really calm. You have to think that even when you feel a tiny breeze that breeze represents all the air around you moving. You have to clean many many houses worth of air in maybe a minutes time to keep it clean. Have they come up with architectural features to mitigate this?
The crap needs to be sucked up at the smokestacks because it is denser there. Of course, that's where it gets a lot harder. One problem is that coal burning produces a bit of radioactive smoke due to naturally occurring radioactive trace matter in coal. That's why the smoke has to be so high, to make it disperse and not get re-burned.
"Hey honey, do you want to go to the park today?" "No mom, let's go to the vacuum instead so I can get a breath"
How did America solve the smog problem? They moved factories to China :D
***** OWNED! Now let's move them to the moon!
East Tn Turf Surf Chinese or factories? :P
Factories
***** Clean Air Act of 1970, development of nuclear power, a centralized power grid, CARB, invention of fuel injection and major advances in the internal combusion engine, the fuel crisis, silicone valley, etc. Ask anyone who lived through the 60s and 70s and they will tell you about the huge improvement in air quality before the collapse of the steel industry and the American manufacturing.
+Dimitri T WHAT A SMART MOVE
Why don't they just put a filter ontop of the coal stacks? Just get all the carbon particles before they even get in the air.... Seems a lot easier and cheaper.
and do it on every car ?
Haven't you watched the video? - the point is not to provide a scalable solution, but to give people incentive to change their behavior. Or you thought they literally talked about carrots there?
I like giraffes
Day Mal that is a very agreeable statement
Oskar Elek but why no ambition dream bigger find and make the solution "we" the people can't really do much its them... Produce it already
Did anyone see the end!? Guy almost died !
That was a good blooper
Who the fuck stands on a railway?!
makes a good shot.
Connor C He was hoping to score some sick leave
Connor C natural selection
Instead of releasing the smog into atmosphere get the filters for the factories.
+Vugz Hir China refuses to incorporate adequate carbon footprint restrictions onto factories as they fear it would challege their ability to produce cheap products for the international market. It has been a hot topic for many many years now. Chinese citizens have been trying to take matters into their own hands, but their hands have been tied. This is just one technology to help control factory pollution without making the factories do it. It is not the right solution, but it will at least make them feel a little less helpless, and allow them to show they care.
If they were to try and do that it would cost billions of dollars and would cause some factory's to shut down and the economy to lose money.
Richard Smith
China has already dropped drastically their coal usage.. I hope every country would change to nuclear energy for this transition time, until we find better solution..
"Chinese citizens have been trying to take matters into their own hands, but their hands have been tied"
ok so what? why are you faking empathy for the Chinese people? want to create another iraq, libya or syria out of that?
you should be happy and let the chinese produce more smog since this will eventually cause chinese nation to suffocate to death and the west will win the cold war
so you dont care that 1.3 BILLION people die?
man dude almost got fucked up at the end
Jose Angel Hernandez worrdd
would've made for a good ending, "In Memory Of Shawn Basset who was tragically killed by a train as you just saw."
Next video... "How we can make louder trains"
That was nuts!
the train conductor didn't even attempt to warn him with his horn, he obviously wanted to kill the American lol.
Jose Angel Hernandez why is he even on the train tracks?!
Interesting because it works with electricity and electricity comes from coal mines.
MrEndzo or the sun or the wind or the water or nuclear plant
Yeah, try getting solar energy in the middle of smog filled bejing.
oh watch out, ancap over here haha.
- ancom.
Mrgruntastic not everything is so black and white that people are ancaps and anarchists.
I'm not sure what anyone's political views have to do with any of the comments here.
maybe the "fruuh murkut" can't really fix everything heh?
I am living in Beijing now for 7 years,. It is incredible what has happened in those 7 years. The first year was really super polluted and now at the start of 2020 I haven't seen a polluted day in the past 6 months. Great job mate. I am also from Netherland and I apreciate what you have done. Keep going..
How about setting up some environmental industry regulations instead of this bullshit device.
Fix the problem by not creating it... not by polluting with no regard then trying to clean it up.
Like the guy in the video said, "it's complicated"
The Chinese culture is all about having no care for human life.
China will never change unless there is a profit to be made.
***** That's what my Australian wife thinks about me, though I believe it's less to do with my soul than me being sometimes a bit aspergery
+EVOLICIOUS It's not "Chinese culture". It's just Communist.
china relies heavily on industry for economic growth but its expansion is slowing down. imposing regulations will further slow down the growth thus not worth it. (in chinese government's perspective)
Would this suck up farts?
yes.
Wonder what that jewelry would look like.
***** what the fuck dude. Thats some racist shit. Chinese people are people too. Theh are not farts.
no, farts are harmless.... breath it back in
Not exactly true, some farts can carry particulates.
I think they forgot about the excess ozone an ion generator creates
I was scrolling down just to see if anyone mentioned this :p
I wonder which power plant will be powering this park?
We could use ozone done in NZ since we have a hole above our country.
And what do you think the Chinese are going to use to power that vacuum? MORE COAL!
Remember how he admitted it was NOT a solution to the polution problem and instead just an incentive for the future?
as long as you're creating less waste than you're removing, it's beneficial.
China is actually a leading country in renewable energy, believe it or not
It's ok, it's somebody else's problem now.
They try to change to be better environmentally - for example china has a plan to cut on meat consumption by half for example
I hope china is successful in all this changes
And then China can make cheap artificial diamonds to put on drill head and mine for ever more coal!
haha its a win win....
no need to mine nothing because they use the coal extracted from the air...
Instead of making it into jewelry.. the carbon can be used to make ink. i think someone in India has alrdy done it.
Or toners maybe
Aminnudin Jasmani jewelry's can be sold at a higher price, hence this project is more sustainable as it can then pay for itself.
eventually demand will go down and then you have a bunch of black blocks in the environment no one wants.
Michael Rosche you think thats jewelry? More like a novelty. They could make synthetic diamonds from that stuff but they choose not to lol
xDJOx Rex It's both, still a form of jewelry.
Soon a *_Chinese billionaire_* will buy this tech + *_Sell_* it to upscale condos & cars for the Chinese middle/upper class + the *_poor Chinese_* will keep dying of Cancer.
what do you mean BUY THIS TECH? its a friggin ionizer. i had one in my bedroom IN THE EIGHTIES. they are nothing new. just that the average yuppie doesn't know about anything that doesn't come from walmart or they haven't seen advertised. there is TONS of technology out there that the average joe has no clue about. and I own plenty of things that use those odd technologies.
Link Knight please share some other cool obscure technologies
***** cardboard house I won, solar powered fridge in my house, propane powered freezer, you ever seen those thermos flasks that the 2 sides flip out with mirrors on them and you have an evactuated tube in there (like new solar hot water technology). it looks like a thermos flask but actually heats the water in it. solar cooking dishes, common in india and china. then there is stirling engines which I show on my channel (most not running, they even had an austrian made desk fan), plus a steam powered sawmill, steam powered earth moving, gasification which is running petrol vehicles off gas extracted from wood by pyrolisis (I done a video with The Do It Yourself World where I improvised one with a coffee tin), peltiers and thermo electric generators, Titanium Dioxide air purifiers. quite a number of these things are on my channel which you would find with the search bit on my channels front page.
its fine a 2 bedroom apt costs about 1 million dollars( i mean us dollars) in Beijing, poor ppl dont even get to live there no worries XD :)
Link Knight Lol, Its not just an ionizer you nob, The problem in the past was creating durable filters that could filter such tiny particles as the once viewed in this video, If you are seriously arsing around and saying we have not come a single step forward in technology since the 80's. then sir you have no clue
let's take the smog, and push it somewhere else.
+Mike M oh like out to sea with all of our plastic? cause that was a great idea.
Magical Fungi You obviously don't get the reference.
+Magical Fungi yeah, I get the reference lol. Honestly some people need to get a good sense of humor
+Alyssa Cunha Cape Town has clean air, a strong wind called the "Cape Doctor" blows the pollution out to sea.
+Mike Slammers send it to space
Sad that China hasn't done anything about this and that a "foreigner" has to come in to do something about the issue.
it can impact the economy so china wont do anything against it.
Back in the day, America was huge on industry! We never had issues like China because we have something called the EPA, and enforce our environmental regulations on companies that manufactured here. This is the very reason why companies moved to China; they don't enforce environmental regulations (or even child labor) making manufacturing very cheap. We are not to blame, China is to blame. I always choose American over Chinese products whenever available. Its the least I can do. But yes, you have a point, we should stop buying Chinese stuff as it makes the issue more global.
Regardless of whether you can compare now to then, the fact of the matter is that China does not enforce laws for protecting the environment and air quality. Thus it is their problem. If they enforced these laws, cost of manufacture would go up, and wasteful manufacture would go down.
It's basically just a guy making a park that has significantly reduced smog. Not really solving an issue. More like placing a band-aid on a massive wound.
China spent 900 billion on renewable energy sources last year alone, so yes they're doing something
these guys are true capitalists... even turning smog particles into a sellable product.
why dont goverment force factorys to build iobic filters on the chimneys that exoust that shit?
we are talking about a regime who thought putting glass into soil makes crops grow
Because that would be another cost. The reason all countries gather their manufacturing factories in China is because it is cheap. If China increases the cost for a foreign company to make their products in China, then the company will go somewhere else where it is cheaper, and does not have costly environmental friendly regulations.
It's easy to think it's China's problem, when in fact it is a matter of supply and demand, which involves both the supplier and buyer.
They just want China to die
korsez cuz it's run by corporate hacks
Because Hong Kong has a avg life expectancy of 84 years so they don't really care
If this thing uses coal energy to power it, it in turn produces smog. My question is does it break even, does it process more smog than it produces by electric plants?
+Joecgml I doubt it breaks even, but it's not meant to. It's basically an art installation.
THAT WAS SO QUIET😦👏👏
also, gosh, a near death experience...
Why not use the carbon from the smog to make graphene? Or is that not possible?
Now your a real dynamic thinker. This guy has the right idea. We need more human beings thinking the way you do, Problem solvers and solutions based thinkers. Those are the real progressives. We need Progress, and not people that refuse to solve issues in a smart way because it affects their political base.
Nohalfsteps That's quite possibly some of the nicest things anyone's ever said to me. Thank you for making my life better with your kindness.
My pleasure. Just keep asking those kinds of questions and you'll make everyone's life better. Ignore the haters. Just about every great invention started with the words: Why not use this to create that?
Nohalfsteps Why not use graphene to make carbon and sell it to the Chinese?
***** because it's not economically viable. Consider that the collected particulate is heavily contaminated, not pure carbon. It's really not a good starting material.
I really think this is probably one of the best ways they could use the collected smog. Not only does it help to finance these systems, but it makes a clear point, creates something nice, and gets the topic discussed. Take a ring, or earrings. Every time someone comments on them to someone wearing them, that's a chance to start the discussion. People also tend to like those little things that say "I'm helping!" so I can see them being fairly popular.
what about placing one of these systems outside of a coal plant? ..or a large polluting factory?
Better yet, put it inside the smokestack. This has been done for decades in the United States and in Europe. It's called a "precipitator" when it is designed to capture solid particles or a "scrubber" for gases. Coal-fired plants usually use a combination of the two, so the only thing coming out of the stack is water and carbon dioxide. The only way to emit less pollution is to use nuclear energy instead.
so no-one is comenting on how this guy was literally about to die at the end? lmfao omg wtf!
nahhhh
@bobwatters That was in the Netherlands
People would buy this air cleaner for their homes, because most of us stay in the room at work, in the shops and at home.
Great technology !
Only are handling the problem, they are not solving the problem. We want clean energy and no more manipulation of powerful industries. (Solo están manejando el problema, no están solucionando el problema. Queremos energías limpias y no mas manipulacion de industrias poderosas).
Progress starts with a first step and this is a step in the right direction.
well it's better to do something than to do nothing.
nothing will be ever be done if the first step is "make world peace"
Your temporary solution, as all industrial and government ..... use mask and give time to think or still dying. . Great solution.
Did you watch the video? Half the video is them talking about just that. The entire point is to create a contrast to battle normalization of the issue. Nobody is ever going to do anything if they are so accustomed to pollution that they don't care. But if there is one pollution-free place they can go and breathe fresh air, that will inspire people and set the standard they should strive for. It's a way to strengthen the clean energy effort.
Every person that lives/works in cities should have to pay for a giant ionic skyscraper to clean the air.
Divergent Evolution did you know that living in a heavily populated city gives you a smaller carbon footprint?
so it uses electricity? that stuff that creates the smog?
Amazing to see people taking action, and making a positive difference in this world. Respect!
Why not put these carbon vacuums inside the companies the produce the corbon, before the corbon enters the air? just an idea...
what about previously existed smogs.....smogs can be created when anyone's house,cars is on fire....u can't control that.....and while building houses
So if I smoke enough cocaine, then I get this vacuum cleaner.
You're telling me that I can smoke it again!?
Amazing!
- Best idea I've ever had 😂
Nuclear energy, problem solved.
Jean-Luc Picard nuclear energy is a ticking timebomb, not good at all unless they can figure out how to use thorium.
@Mr Cabot And you're too ignorant to know what "Nuclear" is. Currently most reactors run off fission. But fusion, which we are currently attempting at making it self sufficient is even cleaner then fission. There are many types of fuel and reactions that are in theory extremely beneficial. just lack the funding for the research to be done.
I agree, this isn't the solution to air pollution ( global issue) because it costs a lot of resources and energy to create these filters in the first place. The only solution that doesn't involve extra waste is to change our way of living, our perspective on the environment. The ecosystem isn't here to serve us, there are millions of other species that's going to be affected by our actions.
It's a shame it's taken me this long to finally stumble on a comment that makes sense here!
Exactly... Prevention before cure.
3 words, "MAKE. IT. HAPPEN!"
For my people...
In the netherlands trains are not trains. The whole train system is more a metro system in the netherlands. *so NEVER stand on top of the track* because you wont hear em and there are a lot of trains
i thought about this in the 90s and again the idea came back a few years ago. those buckets of carbon can be used in 3d printers. and then other elements can also be mined out of the air along with water in humid states like Florida. we could also take out pollens of harmful plants like rag weed and cool the air before being released into cities as fresh air. if every city had one we would be closer to a cooler future.
2018 now and there is no independent review and test that proves that this project works and is efficient enough.
What about the energy used to drive the ionic filter?
Ellavina *"The cost to run the park in its entirety is the equivalent of a household vacuum cleaner."*
And how much particulate matter does that create from coal burning?
That doesn't answer the fucking question.
People don't seem to understand that technology doesn't clean up the environment, it pollutes it.
If there was no electricity, no automobiles, no heating, we'd live in an entirely pristine natural environment - in the stone age.
+fuzzywzhe As they mentioned in the video, this isn't a solution to the problem. If you live in a place that always has smog and have never experienced what it's like without it, you wouldn't reasonably push for it's removal. This is to give people a taste test, that's it.
Also the key factor is more efficient technologies pollute the environment less. Sure electric running off renewable electricity still pollute in the manufacturing process, but they do it far less than combustion engine cars.
+fuzzywzhe The park consumes 1,700 Watts. A typical coal power plant produces 500,000,000 Watts. The answer to your "fucking question" is "not very fucking much".
Keep things in perspective, man.
+fuzzywzhe Allow me rephrase. The answer to "how much particulate matter does that create from coal burning" is: "insignificant because it uses virtually no power, and inconsequential because its purpose is not to clean the fucking pollution you dumb fucking idiot." It's an art project to remind the people immersed in air pollution of what it's like without air pollution. It's not a proposed solution. Did you watch before commenting?
Ben Simmons *"Allow me rephrase. The answer to "how much particulate matter does that create from coal burning" is: "insignificant because it uses virtually no power"*
And it cleans virtually no air, dummy.
When will you MORONS understand that energy consumption by technology ALWAYS creates pollution? Always.
Even with solar energy, the reason it takes 7 years to recoup the cost of the cells it takes 7 years of energy to make the cells. They are sold at almost no margin.
After 7 years, yeah, you're golden.
the biggest responsibility should be put onto the companies, not to fix it afterwards but to fix it where it comes from
How about just stop the polluting.
Sadly, it is not that easy to "stop the polluting". To put it in perspective, China produces ~70% of it's power from burning coal which is roughly 13,252,000,000,000,000,000 joules in 2014 alone. To run a 100 watt light-bulb for 1 year straight you would need 3,162,240,000 joules of energy. So the amount of power China alone creates from coal can run 4,190,000,000 100 watt light-bulbs for a year. For future reference a joule is equal to one watt.
Taylor Rice Very little thought went into your comment.
Close call at the end there mate lucky you turned around! Well done
Now put theese on the roof of every tall building in Beijing, power them with solar panels, and you might have a solution. :-)
This isn't a solution. A solution would be cutting down the pollution being put into the air.
A train of thought, forgotten, then remembered, only to be derailed by an actual train lol
How much coal would be burned to power such a device?
This video is super underrated. Make this a reality.
Put these on the roofs of buildings
even better. put rooftop gradens on top of every building.
Even better, put both on the roofs of buildings.
even better put roofs on top of building roofs building tops boofs tuilding rop
buildings, better even roof on top the of both
>.> They forget that the vacuum will suck air in, therefore the closer you are to the machine, the more of the smog that will be inhaled. So only the border between say, 2-3 of these machines would be a safe zone, as that is where the air will be sucked FROM, not to.
Thomas Druce The fact that that is wrong is literally shown to you using the model
that's why they put it on top of buildings
Clever idea to solve the heavily air polluted cities. Samuel Ho Have you check your lung?
1:40 I love how the Chinese environmental expert they interview totally avoids the obvious other problem: there are no pollution controls mandated by the government.
electric cars and solar energy, problem solved.
I wish it were true. If it were, then why has it not been implemented?
Robert Zraick Retooling and reinfrastructure costs. If we were buying our energy supply now, we would buy solar and wind for local use close to home. The current cost of wind is actually cheaper than coal and solar cheaper than gas and nuclear. We would not have to pay for the grid, the millions of tons of wire, the steel towers and transformer cores, the trillions of dollars for nuclear reactors, mining, processing and clean up, the coal fired generators, the mines and mining equipment, the trucks, the trains to haul it, the wear on the highway system from heavy trucking, but now we have to replace all that with solar panels and thermosolar generators and wind turbines situated locally and without much grid to shuttle power around, we merely will have to move a small percentage of electricity around to meet shortages due to wind or sun decreases. And we also have to super insulate our homes and buildings, instead of having built them properly in the first place. Add earth source geothermal with surface earth insulation and that's housing. Then eliminate transport of things grown locally, only ship stuff that has to be grown or made elsewhere, and do it by slow wind powered trains with sails, and restructure cities to have work near the workers, and stop lighting all the unoccupied streets at night, and the earth will recover. THAT'S why we don;t have it, and how we will now have to.
rstevewarmorycom I was only commenting on Cballin's statement about solar energy and electric cars. I thought is a but simplistic. The problem regarding the energy need of our civilization are pretty complex.
I agree with what you posted. When we first started to burn fossil fuels, particularly oil and its derivatives, we were enticed by how easy it was and we did not make the best use of it. I would like to se the grid eliminated. Every home built with the ability to power itself and every car be totally electric and chargable at home.
We are going to have some problem with air travel as there does not seem to be a viable alternative to jet fuel. Everything else is too heavy (a plane trying to fly loaded with enough batteries would just never get off the ground. Perhaps that can be address with synthesizing hydrocarbons.
I think we could put motion sensors on street lighting so that they would only light when needed.
Things are going to change.
Robert Zraick Efficiency is the reason for centralized burning of fossil fuels, if you are going to use fossil fuels the largest possible generation equipment is very much more efficient. But losses on the required grid very nearly eat up that advantage, so you're right about solar and wind anyway, and perhaps neighborhood fossil fuel supplementation. Also, centralized laundry and refrigeration is waaay more efficient, as is recapture of waste heat from manufacturing for heating purposes and cogeneration for chemical processes. There are ways to synthesize butanol and biodiesel that could be used for medical helicopters and some air travel, They have a plane or two that run solely on canola oil, the military wanted to know that. And yes, street lighting controls and store lighting controls are big ways to save power. The key to transport being lower energy is to make enclosed two and three wheeled battery-powered vehicles with light weather shells that run on small electric motors, typically under a kWatt. That and rail should do it.
rstevewarmorycom I had never heard about a plane running on canola oil. Thanks for that. Just curious, was it a jet? In any case I am encouraged to hear about it.
The time to work in developing strategies for a post fossil fuel world is now.
Beautiful! This is an excellent example of one man's vision making a positive change.
Sounds creepy. Aren't those ionisers bad for the ozone?
There is no UV technology involved so afaik no. The hub just charges up the air certain way, hardly any chemical reaction happens.
are you trolling ? as of now nothing on this planet is good for the ozone incl humans.
they don't hurt ozone (O3)... it's a gaseous compound and is difficult to filter out. not like there would be much there anyways. the sulfur and hydrocarbons make pretty short work of Ozone particles.
BAD FOR THE OZONE? get off the drugs. i HAD ONE of these ionizers in my bedroom as a kid. its like an electrostatic charge in the way it makes all of the airborne particles fall to the ground. it has NOTHING to do with gasses that may harm the ozone. you think that something with a top consumption of a lousy 1500 watts, less powerful than an electric kettle is going to screw up some layer of gas 60 kilometers up! you don't know ozone from bath salts.
Link Knight actually it does effect O3 particles (ozone) but not so bad that it would hurt the part of the O zone that helps us. Ozone in your house isn't good. just because it's 1 more oxygen molecule larger than O2 doesn't mean it's good for us (to be fair it would take a very large amount of arching electricity to produce enough 0zone to hurt some one.
ps- when you create a large static shock then smell that weird ionized air- a small part of that air is Ozone
This is a great idea, having a filter like this on every smog production.
After reading some comments, most of them completely based in fantasy, I had to scroll up to remember what the hell the video was about.
And dam, almost had one less ignorant activist to worry about imposing their will over mine. Thought I remembered a denial in there somewhere.
What about the Ozone that these give off? Has this company figured out a way to not produce ozone while ionizing the air? Some of the known effects of ozone exposure include: susceptibility to respiratory infection, coughing, difficulty breathing, lung damage and decreased lung capacity. These look a lot like the symptoms of smog exposure.
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Wouldn't it be easier to catch the pollution at a it's source before it is released?
Besides this concept wouldn't work on a large scale as prevailing winds would blow in more dirty air faster than it can be cleaned.
The only way it could actually be able to create a pocket of clean air is if they put the device inside a dome.
> Wouldn't it be easier to catch the pollution at a it's source before it is released?
Sure, this would be true. But I think the energy companies of China find that carbon(particulate)-capture tech to be too expensive to filter out all of the carbon particulates.
Loshan T
If they can't afford scrubbers they certainly could not afford this.
This is being done independently, not by the energy company.
Omfg tht ending u almost fucking died
His face at the end like "I almost got killed by a fucking train" what he says "that was so quiet!" lol
Any news on it now? Improvements??
It is a shit product. Hence why they never had a prototype or actual real images of it working.
This might actually work!! I wait eagerly for your progress
he got shocked by the train. that look on his face when the train passesby without any noise.
**Make a video about how the train operator didn't even blow the whistle. 2 seconds was the time from him standing to him looking left then walking off the tracks. Death 2 seconds away. So lucky!**
Excellent video, keep up the amazing work that y'all do. Y'all keep the people informed unlike fox, cnn, and all those other cable news networks that are in the pockets of corporations and politicians.
About 16 years ago I bought a thing from Sharper Image called Ionic Breeze and it cleared out the air in my apartment that was coming up from the smokers in the apartment below mine. It used very little electricity. Why didn't anyone think of ionizing city air sooner?
So your cleaning the air by using electricity which requires the burning of more coal...
I remember reading a Mickey Mouse comic as a kid, where his inventor friend (Kyro? Gyro?) made a similar device. It would suck all the smog from above the city, and compress it into a little black cube. I remember thinking "Why has noone thought of making this in real life?" And now someone did. This is so surreal!
These need to be in every state!!
so is this a prototype or is this already install in china?
the 'click for more' shows/reveals it is not yet build. I had the same question as well.
It seems not. But China is going for Green energy, hydro, solar, wind and slowly retiring coal power plants.
The air quality has improved... Abet still some decades away to clean air
This is similar to how beeswax candle works to purify air, when you burn beeswax candle it releases negative ions that attracted to soot, dust, pollen and other particulate indoor pollutant; make them heavier and fall to the ground.
There is another method, standing waves between powerful (highly efficient) piezo-electric transducers, they pack the particles together so they drop down and can be collected.
How much smog does a power plant produce making the 1100 watts required to run the vacuum per 24 hr period compared to the amount of smog the vacuum removes per 24 hr period?
Here's a great new concept. I love the idea!
Does anyone know where this park actually is? This is about the only place that I've heard of it and I'd like to go see it for myself.
Really hope this reaches it's goal. It's also nice to hear someone talk about how the developed world also used to have this problem st some point in time.
I am sure it will be clean air at ground level at the park, but this thing isn't punching a hole all the way through to let sunlight in right?
How much electricity does it take to run this whole thing in terms of smog produced to filter out smog?
What is the average mass of the smogg in 1 cubed KM?
Taking this evening as an example, the mass of particulate matter in one km^3 is 0.056 grams (source: www.stateair.net/web/post/1/1.html)
Actually it's closer to 124000 grams remember a cubic kilometer is 1000^3 cubic meters or a billion cubic meters.
I stand slightly corrected - I've got my answer in the 10,000s of grams, but not over 100,000.
Thanks for pointing out the error though
Something I'm just curious about... Isn't that ionic field a laser? If so, how yould you manage ozone production? Isn't it as dangerous as the pollutants being sucked out?
Don't they have days where there's no smog? If so, what's the point of burning electricity in a park to produce conditions that happen naturally?
So you sucked out the particulate matter/smog out of the air.
Now what?
How do you dispose of all of that?
We need to not only awaken people to the truth and help them fix their bad habits, but we also need to take action to fix this world. We have the ability to do so.
Read The Lorax. You'll realize selling clean air to people is not a solution.
If only it were possible to install living roofs and vertical gardens on all these buildings.. they would clean the air and lower the temperature of the city itself as well as attracting beneficial wildlife and insects. Could you imagine zip-lining through downtown Beijing? Through a dense and intricate canopy full of beautiful plants and trees only to look below and see thriving city life.. What an incredible experience and reality this would be.. where big cities like these were a source of clean air and water, maybe even supplying themselves with rooftop crops? As smart as this vacuum idea is, I feel like its still walking against the current.
Cool ideas. Brining it full circle with the funding from the jewelery
Art, what is functional, and provocative? Impossible!
As of January 1, 2018, the Beijing air pollution has drastically decreased due to the strict environmental controls implemented by the government. Aside from the closing down of many factories, many were moved to different provinces. It's not a permanent solution but it helped a great deal for now.
love how the conductor didn't try to warn him with his horn lol, he wanted hit him...
HAAAA.
wouldn't the center of this vacuum concentrate the smog making it more potent around the center?
Yes some coverage on daan roosegaarde always curious on his process
that was so quiet... Hell yeah, that's the Netherlands, man!
5:20 And what happens when we throw away the rings? also I think plastic in the rings pollutes in a worse way because more difficult to recycle
My question is where do all the videos showing a lack of smog come from?
The wind blows the smog away. To another city...
When Beijing hosted the APEC summit they forbade all pollution from factories, cars etc. This made the sky turn blue again, hence the chinese call it " apec blue"
www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1643740/farewell-apec-blue-smog-returns-beijing-following-summit
A clean park is a good place to begin thinking about solutions. When oil is all gone in 50 years, and we're using Fusion for electricity all over the world and have diversified methods of transportation out of necessity, everyone will say, "damn Man, look at all the ways we could have used fossil fuels creatively for centuries and centuries...."
1.1 to 1.5 KW/h to run (6:00 in the video)
1 ton of coal burned = 8 141 MW/h (8 141 000 KW/h)
Using the power produced by a ton of burned coal will make this machine run from 5 427 333 to 7 400 909 hours.
If you get more that a ton of solid material out of the air in that much time, it can be a viable solution. It all depends on what material are used to make the machine and how much it costs.
We need more people like this man
Is there a byproduct of the ionic vacuum?
Not sure why they don't just through these on top of every coal power plant.
Nic Hil They already do, just not in china, because of lack of enforcement of clean air policies. google "power plant electrostatic precipitator"
this device being showcased here is technology first developed in the 1950's and has been in use in powerplants around the world,
you can even buy some for your home but they are a bitch to clean and produce some ozone. google " electrostatic precipitator" and click on the "shopping" search option.
China is legally requiring power plants to use thee "scrubber" technologies but is not enforcing the use of these "scrubber" technologies because of the political unrest they would experience if suddenly the entire country was hit by power shortages caused by retrofitting or retiring of non-retrofittable power plants (which is most of them).
This is why they are desperately rushing Nuclear power with Renewable power: they need enough baseload capacity still operational to keep the people happy when China decides to finally enforce the clean air laws.
How do they deal with winds? It seems like this would only work if the air was really really calm. You have to think that even when you feel a tiny breeze that breeze represents all the air around you moving. You have to clean many many houses worth of air in maybe a minutes time to keep it clean. Have they come up with architectural features to mitigate this?
The crap needs to be sucked up at the smokestacks because it is denser there. Of course, that's where it gets a lot harder. One problem is that coal burning produces a bit of radioactive smoke due to naturally occurring radioactive trace matter in coal. That's why the smoke has to be so high, to make it disperse and not get re-burned.