I feel like this is not a very good breakdown. Maybe it isn't you guys, but the footage you provided, but I just feel more confused. I don't understand why you cut at 1:32, I was hoping to see the clock go all the down from the 30 second mark we see it starts at. I also am confused, because you are saying there was a disengagement and the clock should have been reset because of that, but I don't think we see that disengagement?
The 30 second mark does go all the way down to zero: that's when the ump called a violation. The cut presumably skips the runner trotting down to first. The disengagement happens off-camera, but we see the ump signal "time" while the pitcher reengages the rubber with the catcher standing saying something to the HP ump at 1:36.
@@steampunk_willy wait, I see the time call now. I guess if I was making the video I would have pointed that out. (But good job by you pointing it out). And I personally would have liked to see the whole 30 seconds without a cut.
I can’t understand why we’re in such a hurry to play a “leisurely” game. Seriously, you can spend 3 hours watching a 60 minute football game, but baseball is too slow?
In Triple A the umpire can speak directly to the FTC via a couple different comms devices . That makes it so much better to prevent things like this. Every umpire crew has a unique preference of when the clock starts depending on the scenario. The FTC definitely messed up so hopefully that stadium can invest in a short range handheld radio system at the very least!
Im a FTC for a different team but in the same league as jersey shore. We do have walkie talkies that allow us to communicate with the umps. I have worked with both these umps before and they are one of the better crews. Im sure after the inning they had a talk with the FTC.
If the offense is crying they didn't uphold the pitchers violation, the defense can say they have to hold the batter to the same thing, they weren't ready at 8 seconds. And just like that, the first ever 1-1 count with 0 pitches thrown in the at bat.
Apples-to-oranges, I'll admit, but in some states, the timekeeper/clock operator is part of the officiating crew in high school football. Shouldn't that be the case in organized (MiLB/MLB) baseball as well. or would that not have mattered in this instance?
@@conrailhbgline In minor league FTC are not MILB employees. Our training is done by MILB officials though. We are employees of whatever club we work for. It is standard practice to meet with the umpires before and after the game to go over improvements.
I think this is pretty clear evidence that most managers argue with umps just to argue. It's got nothing to do with calling the rules correctly. Ump made a mistake, they talked to each other and corrected it. What's the problem, Bro?
The problem is that every fan, player, and coach is perfectly willing to let every mistake that benefits them, stand. God help the umpire who corrects a correctable mistake.
I watched your video but I still don’t really understand what happened. The clock goes to 30 second’s between batters right? So that seems correct. Then the next thing we see is the clock counting down to zero. From what I watched it seems like it should have been some sort of violation. Was there a pitcher disengagement that we didn’t see? I’m so confused.
I enjoy your analysis, but don't understand the ongoing jabs at the pitch clock. It's the first year (in MLB at least), of course there will be some adjustment and growing pains. I've been a baseball fan for far longer than I care to say and the game had evolved so much and games had grown too long. Not too long with baseball action, with inaction (I choose to blame La Russa for it all as a Pirates fan hating all things Cardinals). Were you ok with the ever growing length of games? Or did you have a preference for another solution? The growth in length of games over time correlates closely with the number of pitchers used per game over time. But I don't see the players union ever agreeing to anything that would limit the number of players on the roster or going back to a heavier workload for starters and bring up injury questions.
I have never had a problem with baseball's pace of play. I am disappointed that so many seem to think that the ebb and flow of baseball excitement throughout a game needed changing.
@@gridly.todd.h The problem was too much ebb and not enough flow. And frankly, watching a batter adjust his batting gloves, cross himself, carve his initials in the dirt, reset his necklace, put his helmet on four or five times...between every pitch...wasn't all that exciting. Players brought this upon themselves. Get in the box and let's play ball.
You know sand well that offensive manager would want a reset of a violation was called on his pitcher defensively if the roles were reversed. Can’t have it both ways, skip!
The 3B coach probably wanted to get ejected to fire up the team and/or ice the other team's pitcher. He just repeats some variation of "you can't do that" so that its obvious he's arguing a pitch clock violation which is an automatic ejection.
Also worth pointing out that his team is down by 4 with 2 on in the bottom of the 9th, so... Yeah, not a bad time to try to get ejected to fire your team up.
I have a new speedup rule... when you're ejected, you have 10 seconds to be out of sight before they start charging your hitter/pitcher strikes/balls... talk about a real speedup. The length of some of these arguements you might have 2-3 K's while they keep bitching.. and it won't get overturned anyway.. just give it up.
@@jayschafer1760 I don't, any time I have to see Aaron Boone I feel sick. Maybe if he was being permanently ejected from baseball, that would be fun to watch. How could Bob have stuck us with such terrible offspring? Almost as bad as Buddy sticking us with hothead David. Down with nepotism in baseball! Then again, these are all the grandchildren, maybe it's baseball's own third generation rule!
You are absolutely right about the robo ump people who will start complaining about the clock and the clock operators. Nothing will ever satisfy the type of person who sits on in the back row and throw bombs just to see chaos ensue.
Umpires have to get control of the game. As soon as the umps realized the clock did not reset, you call time. You can't have the clock change mid at bat, so what can the time keeper do other than let it go, and then the umpires do not want to enforce the rule as written.
Great coverage Lin, super interesting one here. PU looking fantastic in the new Smitty V2 - really looks great on some of these guys. The crew handled this one quite well.
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I feel like this is not a very good breakdown. Maybe it isn't you guys, but the footage you provided, but I just feel more confused. I don't understand why you cut at 1:32, I was hoping to see the clock go all the down from the 30 second mark we see it starts at. I also am confused, because you are saying there was a disengagement and the clock should have been reset because of that, but I don't think we see that disengagement?
Agreed.
My first instinct was "wait, 30 seconds didn't pass so obviously something went wrong."
The 30 second mark does go all the way down to zero: that's when the ump called a violation. The cut presumably skips the runner trotting down to first.
The disengagement happens off-camera, but we see the ump signal "time" while the pitcher reengages the rubber with the catcher standing saying something to the HP ump at 1:36.
@@steampunk_willy I can't tell if you agree or disagree with wafflelover. Sorry I'm dumb. (Disclosure: I'm personally a pancake lover over waffles)
@@steampunk_willy wait, I see the time call now. I guess if I was making the video I would have pointed that out. (But good job by you pointing it out). And I personally would have liked to see the whole 30 seconds without a cut.
Yeah I’m also super confused after watching this video.
i like watching baseball, not clocks
I can’t understand why we’re in such a hurry to play a “leisurely” game. Seriously, you can spend 3 hours watching a 60 minute football game, but baseball is too slow?
@@asthemillertoldhistale1361 Agreed. The pitch clock is a disaster and i hope it finds its way out of baseball at evey level.
@@douglassepic9030it will not gotta get used to it or stop watching the game
Absolutely hate the pitch clock. It’s terrible
@@douglassepic9030 disaster? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
MLB needs a Robo Clock Operator....=)
The clock operator should be ejected from the game.
This pitch clock this is so confusing--just get rid of it.
My guess, they talked about where the post-game meal will be at ;)
In Triple A the umpire can speak directly to the FTC via a couple different comms devices . That makes it so much better to prevent things like this. Every umpire crew has a unique preference of when the clock starts depending on the scenario. The FTC definitely messed up so hopefully that stadium can invest in a short range handheld radio system at the very least!
Im a FTC for a different team but in the same league as jersey shore. We do have walkie talkies that allow us to communicate with the umps. I have worked with both these umps before and they are one of the better crews. Im sure after the inning they had a talk with the FTC.
@@akiwi69 I work closely with FTC in a Triple A market and man you guys have a tougher job than people realize!
@@SLC-Smudge42 Thats awesome, my goal is to work my way up to AAA but I am in High A for the time being.
If the offense is crying they didn't uphold the pitchers violation, the defense can say they have to hold the batter to the same thing, they weren't ready at 8 seconds. And just like that, the first ever 1-1 count with 0 pitches thrown in the at bat.
Apples-to-oranges, I'll admit, but in some states, the timekeeper/clock operator is part of the officiating crew in high school football.
Shouldn't that be the case in organized (MiLB/MLB) baseball as well. or would that not have mattered in this instance?
According to the article in The Athletic on the Phillies clock, they are MLB employees at that level. Not sure about MILB
Yeah and if it ever makes it to the major leagues good luck getting MLB to pay for an extra crew member to run the clock for each game.
@@conrailhbgline In minor league FTC are not MILB employees. Our training is done by MILB officials though. We are employees of whatever club we work for. It is standard practice to meet with the umpires before and after the game to go over improvements.
I think this is pretty clear evidence that most managers argue with umps just to argue. It's got nothing to do with calling the rules correctly. Ump made a mistake, they talked to each other and corrected it. What's the problem, Bro?
The problem is that every fan, player, and coach is perfectly willing to let every mistake that benefits them, stand. God help the umpire who corrects a correctable mistake.
Sorry, but I think the pitch clock is the single stupidest thing Baseball has ever done. Be gone with it!
What’s the reasoning for a 2 second difference in clock between AA and MLB? Seems like we’re just splitting hairs to be silly at that point.
Manager did that to himself. Grow up, Brodz.
Come on people (MLB front office). Baseball doesn't need to be this complicated (big sigh).
That was the between batter clock that went off. That's why. The 14 second clock never got started.
I watched your video but I still don’t really understand what happened. The clock goes to 30 second’s between batters right? So that seems correct. Then the next thing we see is the clock counting down to zero. From what I watched it seems like it should have been some sort of violation. Was there a pitcher disengagement that we didn’t see? I’m so confused.
There was a pitcher disengagement that we didn't see.
After the 30s a new click should be started and it didn't start
@@voxelation Ok. I feel like it wasn't really explained.
I enjoy your analysis, but don't understand the ongoing jabs at the pitch clock. It's the first year (in MLB at least), of course there will be some adjustment and growing pains. I've been a baseball fan for far longer than I care to say and the game had evolved so much and games had grown too long. Not too long with baseball action, with inaction (I choose to blame La Russa for it all as a Pirates fan hating all things Cardinals). Were you ok with the ever growing length of games? Or did you have a preference for another solution? The growth in length of games over time correlates closely with the number of pitchers used per game over time. But I don't see the players union ever agreeing to anything that would limit the number of players on the roster or going back to a heavier workload for starters and bring up injury questions.
I have never had a problem with baseball's pace of play. I am disappointed that so many seem to think that the ebb and flow of baseball excitement throughout a game needed changing.
@@gridly.todd.h The problem was too much ebb and not enough flow. And frankly, watching a batter adjust his batting gloves, cross himself, carve his initials in the dirt, reset his necklace, put his helmet on four or five times...between every pitch...wasn't all that exciting. Players brought this upon themselves. Get in the box and let's play ball.
Whatever words he used, they must have been magic.
You know sand well that offensive manager would want a reset of a violation was called on his pitcher defensively if the roles were reversed. Can’t have it both ways, skip!
I know sand, but not well.
The 3B coach probably wanted to get ejected to fire up the team and/or ice the other team's pitcher. He just repeats some variation of "you can't do that" so that its obvious he's arguing a pitch clock violation which is an automatic ejection.
Also worth pointing out that his team is down by 4 with 2 on in the bottom of the 9th, so... Yeah, not a bad time to try to get ejected to fire your team up.
The clock will destroy baseball. Mark my words...ridiculousness.
If this comes to the HS level (which I have heard rumors about) I just might quit umpiring or only do youth games.
HS baseball already has a pitch time rule, but without the visible clock.
Also; new rule: you can’t argue balls, strikes, or time.
I have a new speedup rule... when you're ejected, you have 10 seconds to be out of sight before they start charging your hitter/pitcher strikes/balls... talk about a real speedup. The length of some of these arguements you might have 2-3 K's while they keep bitching.. and it won't get overturned anyway.. just give it up.
Fans love a good manager argument.
@@markwicker2664 10 seconds, but the clock can reset up to 3 times if there's a) a thrown cap, b) dirt kicking, c) wild gesticulating.
Lame-o
@@pyRoy6 Make it a 60 second reset for thrown gum. Fans love the Aaron Boone ejections.
@@jayschafer1760 I don't, any time I have to see Aaron Boone I feel sick. Maybe if he was being permanently ejected from baseball, that would be fun to watch. How could Bob have stuck us with such terrible offspring? Almost as bad as Buddy sticking us with hothead David. Down with nepotism in baseball! Then again, these are all the grandchildren, maybe it's baseball's own third generation rule!
You are absolutely right about the robo ump people who will start complaining about the clock and the clock operators. Nothing will ever satisfy the type of person who sits on in the back row and throw bombs just to see chaos ensue.
I miss baseball. As a tax accountant, this reminds me of the TCJA, and how I considered switching professions after 2018.
Amen buddy
The TCJA is also known as the CPA full employment act! LOL
A brake down of the interference on Wimmer in game one of the superregionals please. Gamecocks vs Florida.
Umpires have to get control of the game. As soon as the umps realized the clock did not reset, you call time. You can't have the clock change mid at bat, so what can the time keeper do other than let it go, and then the umpires do not want to enforce the rule as written.
this isn't the umpire fault this is the leauges fault
@@critter2 Agreed. The leagues wanted, and got, this pitch clock travesty.
Great coverage Lin, super interesting one here. PU looking fantastic in the new Smitty V2 - really looks great on some of these guys. The crew handled this one quite well.
Coaches say they want the game to be called correctly. This was a job well done by the umps and the coach should have been happy about it.
I know the Field Umpire
Good for you!
@@DatOneRadDad We used to umpire together and he's going to be in MLB in a few years