Bruh I’d kill to have a friend like her, even when she was upset she still tried to rationalize and make her point like an adult. That TTV is such a brat
Honestly, when he mentioned that she was "flirting" with the killer it was a huge red flag. Pretty sure she rejected him before and it was eating away at him that he needed to attack her over anything. Seen stuff like that before. She definitely doesn't need to be friends with him. I would have went off on him for that BS. Definitely a loser to me.
Even if she didn't reject him before, it's a huge red flag. He is controlling af and to be fair, I think the only reason he went off that hard is because of her gender. The whole "flirting" thing just screams sexism to me. He could easily have stuck to "befriending" since he did use it a couple of times. He made that distinction for a reason.
Yeah and that’s so pathetic of the guy cause he know he’s in the wrong instead of accepting that he was wrong, he goes kicked her off the party and pretty sure he unfriended her too cause he got no words of saying anything and the friends are absolutely pathetic cause they clearly didn’t say anything and still ready up as if nothing happened man if I had friends like that who has no argument and kicks me out and not saying anything I wouldn’t want to be friends with them anymore. 😑😕
YE like imo she was the only real friend from all of them she was the only one that said the truth, and now i think that she is not friedns with them anymore especially with that TTV
@@siberian3021 yeah like im also a twitch streamer but i never say anything toxic, i mean sure I can get upset with the game and complain about it to the killer but I’m not like going out of my way to say about their appearance or lash out at the killer or at my friends I’m a little mature and ignore the salt that is very toxic like people take this game WAAAAAAAY too serious bro. :p
She was incredibly respectful, I would've went OFF on him. the audacity of this streamer is incredible. and those other 2 friends who didn't stick up for her should honestly be embarrassed when they see this video, they are just as bad as him.
@@GoldKitsuneBrony because refusing to stand up for someone who is in the right and letting the person in the wrong continue to do what they're doing wrong, you being silent and not doing anything is a part of the problem. and I say a part of the problem because the whole problem directly involves them as they are right there and is not just this ttv
i wouldn't say they're just as bad. not everyone has the strength to stand up to someone like that, especially if he's like this regularly, they might be stuck in an abusive friendship with him and are afraid to leave or speak up, even when the opportunity presents itself like it did in this video when she finally spoke up. i know from experience i've been too scared to stand up to friends like that because i didn't want the same treatment turned onto me instead. it takes a lot of bravery and confidence to cut someone like that out of your life, and it's a lot harder than you think to just simply understand that removing and blocking people is an option.
I was thinking the same thing. I don't even know her and I just wanted to speak up and say "Stop gaslighting her and acting like a spoiled child." She deserves better friends. She even DCed even though she clearly didn't want to (and she was 100% right). He wanted her to grovel and say she was wrong so he would feel like the better person.
Getting salty is one thing but then getting mad at your friends especially if you're in the wrong is just another level of disrespect towards your friends but at that point they are no longer your friends
It’s sucks because DBD with friends has been one of the most fun experiences I think you can have, not even games like OW can repeat the ridiculous moments DBD has given me and my squad
@@JordanPlayz158 ohh for sure, I would say playing DBD with IRL friends is such a great experience. 100% DBD is made of mostly toxic players, so finding a group to play with is really hard. It’s so cringe watching this TTV throw away what sounds like a solid friend over getting tunneled
@schnauzerbrow No he wasn't a Friend at all he's a Bullie literally over DBD it's Pathetic & I know for certain Spooknjukes will probably agree with me & everyone else in the comments as well this is just horrible this poor lady
this man does nothing but guilt trip his friends off stream i bet. i feel so bad for the girl, hope she finds some better friends who actually care about her.
@@Shebrewww Hopefully you feel better soon and like Lowrider said, you do find some better people to play with! It’s what you deserve, what happened that match you didn’t deserve at all.💜
@@Its_Dean0 Thank you so much! That truly means a lot to me! I only played with the TTV When my regular friend group was busy or working. Im feeling much better after reading everyones love! For a second, I truly thought I did something wrong but everyone has been so kind and I will never doubt myself again like that
U seem chill too honestly like a fun person to play with so literally the logic too behind it made no sense for him to make everyone dc would of been quicker letting u all finish the match too instead of waiting for 3 dc penalty’s but I’m sorry that person treated u that way
I used to have a "friend" like this, and kicking them out of my life was the most freeing and eye opening experience ever. Highly recommend it to everyone - don't be scared to cut toxic people out of your life. You won't regret it, but you absolutely will regret staying around.
if i was one of them id say "fuck him and lets play without him" so he understands that he cant pull this shit, he only thinks he can do this because the others allow him to
@thistletown2912 nah there's somethin about him they want. You can tell by how he weaponizes his friendshit as if its worth keeping. Either they like his personality outside this game or they like his status.
Yup he got a crush on her. Abusive tendencies. Probably only became her friend in hopes she would become FWB with him. I've experienced this before from fake male friends. When they(fake male friends not genuine male friends) catch on that you aren't interested in them romantically nor will you degrade yourself to being a fuck meat, they ghost you or turn into this guy.
What I find truly terrible is that the Mikaela took the high road and actually tried to end the argument and move on. She was done arguing, she was willing to get on with the game, and she didn't want to keep holding the stream hostage because the TTV was butthurt. But the irony is this guy who 'wanted her to admit she was wrong' couldn't admit when he was in the wrong, and kicked her for not agreeing with him. That's sick and it shows that this person hasn't matured enough to deserve dedicated friends like this.
On the ironic topic, he also told her to leave because he didnt want to stay in the lobby and watch, because he was streaming, but is ok with getting the 5 minutes of sitting in lobby. Its clear it wasnt for stream, he was salty and didnt want to sit there and watch the killer win.
That's a fuckin god complex. "If you wanna play with me, DC. I'm streaming, I hate waiting" dude. That's fucked up. I stream this with other streamer friends, and I get tunneled out at times, ya know what, I watch my friends bc that's what friends do. Offer support and help them win with advice.
Like imagine if all the streamers who played among us did this. Anytime one of them died they had to restart it all over again. Imagine how boring it would of been.
I bet he privately messaged then threatened them that if the others stand up for her they'll get reported and unfriend even kicked out of the game and much more, although it's just a guess and all
@@bonnie1079 it wouldn't be a surprise if that's why they didn't stand up for her but if they were threaten by him IDK why they have him as a ft but if he did threaten them then they are the same as him as well
She was the only person with common sense in that group and the other two "friends" did never say anything like when you see a person being bullied and never say a thing. I'm glad she stood up and is not friends with him anymore, friends come and go, you will find the right ones eventually.
I actually can't believe that.. I have mad respect for that girl for sticking up for herself and calling him out on his bullshit. Really hope she doesn't go back to being friends with him after this and that she finds better people
@@Shebrewww Some people go NUTS over Dead by daylight of all things??? sorry you had to deal with that Kayla, if you ever need a SWF lmk, always looking for new friends. I hope he's embarrassed.
@@Shebrewww good on you darling, im so glad you're not having to deal with that toxicity anymore... he's a joke, but good to know you've moved on and all is well ❤
Probably fake, but the killer in the vid commented saying him and the Mikaela SWF'd and played a few games together. Supposedly she doesn't associate with him anymore, big if true imo
This gaslighting behavior is so toxic. It's great that she was standing up for herself and its good for people to see this kind of behavior, because maybe it will save someone else. Not only in DbD.
She really tried her best to keep it civil, good on her for being mature about the situation. If this is how this dude treats his friends, I can only hope he will have a major wake-up call in the future.
"... flirt with the killer..." There it is. He was jealous that the girl in his circle he had a crush on didn't auto-tilt the moment he got tunneled and then he felt cucked watching her socialize with the killer after. Ego shattered and what we saw was him desperately trying to salvage what was left.
@@AdityaKumar69 Nothing. Guess the issue would be thinking having a crush on someone gives you input on who they socialize with on a casual level like in a short interaction in a DbD lobby. Dunno man, that part seems pretty weird.
@@AdityaKumar69 having a crush isn't wrong, behaving like an oversized toddler and being an asshole to your friends is though. how dare he demand everyone in the game stop playing, because hes butthurt? and not only that, he personally attacks her for talking back. he is not a friend, he behaves like a tyrant and all of his friends have to do what he says or they can "fuck off". hes a terrible human being
they could just be scared of the ttv, prob didn't wanna piss him off and make him angry, or they prob had nothing to add to the convo, it happens plenty of time irl and online, where your friends could remind silent or do nothing, its just human nature, not a movie.
I'm really happy that she stood up for herself and props for being calm & trying to explain themselves too I really hate that interaction so so much, I understand being upset at losing a game or just heated for getting camp/tunnel/etc., but there is no reason to be a huge jerk towards your friends and it was disgusting I felt bad for her that this ttv was treating her like that and just acted so entitled like ugh, and as a person coming from dealing with toxic friendship and dealing with insult like that just anger me I really do hope she is okay and recovering from that
@@Shebrewww Good for you. No one deserves to be treated like that, and I'm glad you stood up for yourself and stood your ground. Can't believe he called *you* selfish because you didn't immediately do what *he* wanted. 🙄 Hope you blocked the other two, too. If they're not going to stand up for you in that situation they're also not worth having around.
@@Shebrewww I am very sorry for the late reply, but I hope you're doing okay btw & recovering from this But hey, I am down to play with dbd & give out chaotic vibes if you are ever down to do some survivors but if you like to (:
What’s really sad is that the DC penalty is probably longer than how long the match would have lasted in the end had he just let them play. I also don’t understand how someone can be so self-entitled that when they die first, everyone else has to cater to them. I’ve watched streamers die first and they have fun watching their teammates and making jokes about their looping and such. This whole video was a roller coaster and the end conversation was definitely expected.
That guy saved her a whole hell of a lot of future headaches, and I hope she realizes that she's way better off, and that there are better communities out there to be a part of. This level of hypocrisy, this is just the tip of the iceberg, and there was so much more drama coming with someone like this. I hope she finds a better group of friends, because it sounds to me like she's the only genuine person in that group, and any community would be lucky to have her.
@@Shebrewww do you stream? I would love to follow/watch if you do. I am not very good at DBD but I love the game and do my best. I like to watch people play to learn new tricks.
jeez, i really feel for that mikaela. she kept it together way better than i would during that ordeal, and considering her tone that's saying a whole lot.
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I cannot believe how level headed and nice she was the ENTIRE time especially when he kept yelling at her spouting off his non sense constantly. I woulda bit his head off if he talked to me like that. The fact the others didnt say a single word not one. Is insane especially after he kicked her. Im glad you said she isnt friends with him anymore hopefully she gets better friends then that guy jeez.
I remember being in a group like this, it was the worst thing I have ever experienced but I’m glad I was able to escape them. Hopefully she feels much better being away from them
@OneDayAlways nope because of the threats I’ve gotten including my life especially when they knew where I lived but I did it anyways and now I know they too scared to try me
Nah bc I genuinely feel so bad for the girl in the party She's constantly getting cut off when she speaks & can barely defend herself & the "get out of my party then" was so unbelievably uncalled for. It's okay to get frustrated at the game sometimes but my god- taking it out on your FRIENDS & telling them to leave when they don't agree with you?? It's such disgusting behavior. I truly hope she was okay after that bc personally I'd be really hurt
Thanks Spooks for covering this, I feel really bad for her, and if she see's this don't worry you seem like a real one homie, you'll most definitely find a good friend group to hang out with, and I hope you get a lot of wholesome interactions with the rest of the community.
i feel so bad for her, really did not deserve any of that crap, usually when i die first i stay and spectate and tell my friends “give them a tbag for me” 😂
I would LOVE to play with that Mikaela. She's not only very calm, but also standing up for herself and expressing herself very clearly and intelligent. Anywhere you are gal, you're the best example to this community, I hope you have fun playing in both, new SWF or Solo-q.
@@AstrisxWSX I wont be giving out their name because I have moved on and don't want them to receive any hate! I've moved past this situation and want to focus on the positive
@@Shebrewww You are absolutely lovely and I’m sure you have no shortage of people to play with, but I will totally adopt you if you need some not shitty people to play with! 🖤
@@Shebrewww I'd be down to game with you! I think you're gonna trade off one douchebag for a bunch of awesome people. So at least something positive came from this.
Recently found your channel and have been devouring the content. Love what you do and love that you dont name names. Its more than just showing us the darker side of streamers. It shines a light on things we are all guilty of from time to time and forces us to be more mindful of the way we conduct ourselves. Truly appreciate your videos and the lessons learned along the way.
@@DonaldDuck-s8v do you think he'll get banned 🚫 for twitch and dead by daylight if he keeps acting like this? Because if hope he does get banned 🚫 from twitch and DBD
This actually kind of has some comical timing, I just recently got a friend while streaming dead by daylight and she was actually in a very similar relationship to this . I found her through the toxic friend and it was quite the awkward and interesting thing for me to be there, so for context, my parents and siblings haven't always had the best relationships with each other, so I definitely know what bad and toxic relationships look like and we just kind of kicked the toxic person out cuz he bad-mouthed my friends saying that he started it trying to gaslight, me and the three of us just weren't having any of his shit
And I forgot to mention this in the actual comment, but he would try to constantly guilt trip and then try to make it all seem like it was all a joke or something funny to laugh at when in reality he was just insulting people
I felt bad for the friends having to suffer a DC penalty just because the TTV died how's spectating beginning hold hostage? Just because he can't be asked to spectate or wait until the match comes to an end
the match woulda most likely been about 5-10 more minutes, he coulda stood up and said brb washed his face went to the toilet and then came back fresh for the next match. But apparently he would rather sit in the lobby and wait the 5min penalty while berating a "Friend" and not even listen to what the "Friend" was saying.
If he was my teammate and all and he told me to DC I was say no because you are being salty, plus he could have just left and started a new lobby to get into a mew match too as well
@@snowrangerx at the end of the day there was no reason for him to have a go at his friends like that it was uncalled for especially forcing them to DC like that to receive the penalty it's unfair to others that are playing with you. You bound to have a bad match eventually you can't have a perfect game all of the time I'm always sitting in spectate mode if I escape or get sacrificed so I can watch my friends to see if they escaped
@@nostromoplays my twitch is shebrewww, I just never stream! I’ll start doing that, maybe I’ll blow up and be a positive example for others out there :)
Feel so bad for the girl he was just drilling into 😭 I hope she was able to find other people to support her since this guy clearly isn’t and hasn’t been a good friend to her
A huge thing I learned from my years in Rainbow Six Siege is simply that, when youre dead/out of the game- youre *not* out of the game! Give intel, try to help determine the killer's perks, etc! There's tons you can do even as a spectator, and thats what makes a team so strong in these games!
Things you can do while spectating: 1. Be helpful and kind, you have information they may not have right away, you can be more perceptive. 2. Play a game while you wait, mobile,computer,flash game,etc. Talk to your chat where applicable. 3. Just leave the match and do something else while you wait. Use it as a chance to get a bathroom break, get some food or some snacks,etc. Edit: side note, blessed that girls heart for taking up for herself. Hopefully she can find a better community to be apart of.
Wow, I feel so bad for that Mikaela, That guy was a total narcissist and should never treat his friends like that, and what's even worse is that the others in the group didn't do a single thing either, I'm not big in the DBD streaming scene but I would think that dude's "friends" are just as bad as he is if they just blindly follow his every command like they are his underlings. I've had toxic relationships in the past, and I don't wish this kind of thing on anybody but I do hope that Mikaela finds some new people to play with who will treat her like an actual human being rather than just a pawn.
Such a fucking queen. I Stan her so hard. She even defended herself well and was clearly the better, bigger person. The dude has a complex and should never have a platform, sorry not sorry 😂
"I'm streaming" Ah yes, my favorite content... Staring at a surv pre-game waiting out a penalty that was forced by butthurt attitude. Truly compelling content.
What a jerk. Literally nothing else to say. I've myself left 2 toxic people and can say my life has been much better since, I respect that she stayed respectful and wanted to talk about it and I'm happy that she is (hopefully) not with this guy anymore. Kick the toxic people out of your life!
I've played dbd frequently with someone I met on Deviantart who liked my art and vice versa, we still play nowadays and if things are looking grim, we sacrifice oirselves to give each other a chance to escape. Never once had to ask them to dc or whatever and we have done this with 0 issues for nearly 3 years now.
I can kinda relate to the girl in this video. Last week when the Halloween event started one of the people in my DBD group chat asked if anyone wanted to hop in and play some SWF. A few of us said yes and got a party chat set up. One of the people who said yes didn’t join the chat or the game for like 15 minutes at which one of my friends (another meme er of this same DBD group chat) hopped in the chat party and lobby and was looking to play. One member in the chat immediately started asking why they joined or were here and when they simply said they wanted to play some DBD this person asked if we wanted to do KYF or something. We said sure why not we could do that when the other guy joined if that’s what people want. We readied up in the lobby, this guy started getting incredibly angry at my friend saying they’re being an asshole and acting super shitty because they joined when we already had a 4th (who was still a no show) on the way and that both my friend and ME are being awful for the fact we readied up. When we tried to say that we simply figured we could play a match or two while we wait for the other guy to join since we had a full lobby atm, they started yelling at us both and calling us all kinds of names and ranting about us being shit friends because we would dare to ready up and try to play while waiting for this no show guy who still had not said anything in chat in 20+ minutes now. We tried asking why this guy was so angry over such a silly thing and that we simply wanted to play a match since we’re all sitting here together waiting to do KYF anyway, now the guy took back his suggestion to play KYF and instead said both me and my friend to to GTFO of their lobby and the DBD group chat because they didn’t want to play with people who would act the way we were apparently acting. They went on a rant asking who ever even invited us into the group chat to begin with cause they hadn’t done it and when we pointed out that this person isn’t the god of DBD and that we’ve been here playing with plenty of people in the group for well over a year now they got even more pissed and kept telling us both to get out of the lobby and group chat cause they refused to play with assholes like us. We refused and they deleted me from their friends list and blocked my friend.
"So, you SWF'd to stack the deck in your favor, lost, and then you don't want to wait for them to finish playing? You would expect them to wait for you? Your throne, Your Highness." *gestures to dumpster*
This is so cringe. This guy is not even sure of his own words, he stumbles on everything. This kind of people shouldn't stream. I'm glad she got out of the lobby, it's healthier for her.
Not even that good of a game at that. Dude acts like he's playing in the NFL or something and sitting on the side lines is a massive waste of his time when he could be giving call outs to his teammates instead.
If you have a friend like this, run.. block them.. get away from them. All they do is bring you down and bring negativity to your life. I stuck around for years with a friend just like this and all it did was make my life bitter and stressful, and I was constantly walking on eggshells. Glad she's not friends with this person anymore, it can mess with your head when someone gaslights you and controls you like this.
This Is Genuinely Sad...The Fact That He's Whining Over Getting Tunneled, At This Point Just Stop Playing The Game If Your Gonna Cry Over Getting Tunneled.
Him later: idk why she just freaked out and started screaming at me for no reason. She’s legit crazy. I was being nice and reasonable. Maybe I’m just too nice.
Is there a legal reason as to not show the names of these people? Not the victims and bystanders but the abuser/assailant who continue to cause these problems. Do you think if we showed their names it would help us find the same people who just change names/accounts?
I hope next game she gets a friendly killer that lets her get all 5 gens or a meme build killer like jumpscare Michael that only scares them and doesn’t hook and let’s them go and for the other guy I hope all his games are fulled with nurses running the sweatiest build and he gets tunneled each game.
That girl did not deserve that, That's straight verbal harassment, I hope those 2 other people in the lobby felt bad after because that says something when you don't speak up for your friend or yourself...
Props to her for standing up for herself and using actual facts and logic.
Bruh I’d kill to have a friend like her, even when she was upset she still tried to rationalize and make her point like an adult. That TTV is such a brat
I agree! She reacted the way anyone should react in that situation.
yeah.... she was dead @ss, dead @ss!
Thank you so much! I’m the Mikaela ❤ that means a lot!
Thank you so much! I’m the Mikaela ❤ that means a lot!
"Flirt with the killer" It sounds like he's upset because he wants her and cant have her, so he's taking it out like this.
This is 100% it
I hate that.
Incel vibes
@@coffee8599 Dead by Daylight fan moment.
Had the same thought
Incel moment
Honestly, when he mentioned that she was "flirting" with the killer it was a huge red flag. Pretty sure she rejected him before and it was eating away at him that he needed to attack her over anything. Seen stuff like that before. She definitely doesn't need to be friends with him. I would have went off on him for that BS. Definitely a loser to me.
100% he was looking for a reason to do this cause he couldn't have her
Hope she stopped playing with him
@@rawrdino7046 i think she did
Even if she didn't reject him before, it's a huge red flag. He is controlling af and to be fair, I think the only reason he went off that hard is because of her gender. The whole "flirting" thing just screams sexism to me. He could easily have stuck to "befriending" since he did use it a couple of times. He made that distinction for a reason.
@@goddess236ong even if she wants to flirt with the killer , so? She’s allowed to. she’s her own person yk?😂 she can flirt with anyone she wants
I feel so bad for the girl. But I’m happy she stood her ground, she won that argument by a mile
Yeah and that’s so pathetic of the guy cause he know he’s in the wrong instead of accepting that he was wrong, he goes kicked her off the party and pretty sure he unfriended her too cause he got no words of saying anything and the friends are absolutely pathetic cause they clearly didn’t say anything and still ready up as if nothing happened man if I had friends like that who has no argument and kicks me out and not saying anything I wouldn’t want to be friends with them anymore. 😑😕
YE like imo she was the only real friend from all of them she was the only one that said the truth, and now i think that she is not friedns with them anymore especially with that TTV
@@siberian3021 yeah like im also a twitch streamer but i never say anything toxic, i mean sure I can get upset with the game and complain about it to the killer but I’m not like going out of my way to say about their appearance or lash out at the killer or at my friends I’m a little mature and ignore the salt that is very toxic like people take this game WAAAAAAAY too serious bro. :p
"flirting with the killer" LMAO i had incel vibes but that confirmed it
he want herrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I flirt with killers all the time. It's strategy. 😂
@@trueredpanda1538flirt with them to make them feel guilty for hurting you.
She was incredibly respectful, I would've went OFF on him. the audacity of this streamer is incredible. and those other 2 friends who didn't stick up for her should honestly be embarrassed when they see this video, they are just as bad as him.
I would have just laughed at him, lmao
How does that make them just as bad? Did you mean to say 'a portion as bad'?
@@GoldKitsuneBrony because refusing to stand up for someone who is in the right and letting the person in the wrong continue to do what they're doing wrong, you being silent and not doing anything is a part of the problem. and I say a part of the problem because the whole problem directly involves them as they are right there and is not just this ttv
i wouldn't say they're just as bad. not everyone has the strength to stand up to someone like that, especially if he's like this regularly, they might be stuck in an abusive friendship with him and are afraid to leave or speak up, even when the opportunity presents itself like it did in this video when she finally spoke up. i know from experience i've been too scared to stand up to friends like that because i didn't want the same treatment turned onto me instead. it takes a lot of bravery and confidence to cut someone like that out of your life, and it's a lot harder than you think to just simply understand that removing and blocking people is an option.
I was thinking the same thing. I don't even know her and I just wanted to speak up and say "Stop gaslighting her and acting like a spoiled child." She deserves better friends. She even DCed even though she clearly didn't want to (and she was 100% right). He wanted her to grovel and say she was wrong so he would feel like the better person.
Getting salty is one thing but then getting mad at your friends especially if you're in the wrong is just another level of disrespect towards your friends but at that point they are no longer your friends
It’s sucks because DBD with friends has been one of the most fun experiences I think you can have, not even games like OW can repeat the ridiculous moments DBD has given me and my squad
If feel so bad for her How could he treat her like this she did nothing to him it got me angry that he kicked her out 😡
@@JordanPlayz158 ohh for sure, I would say playing DBD with IRL friends is such a great experience. 100% DBD is made of mostly toxic players, so finding a group to play with is really hard. It’s so cringe watching this TTV throw away what sounds like a solid friend over getting tunneled
@schnauzerbrow No he wasn't a Friend at all he's a Bullie literally over DBD it's Pathetic & I know for certain Spooknjukes will probably agree with me & everyone else in the comments as well this is just horrible this poor lady
@@jacobgreenwood8475 hopefully he gets banned 🚫 from twitch and DBD for that's TTV streamers reaction to words her and everyone else
this man does nothing but guilt trip his friends off stream i bet. i feel so bad for the girl, hope she finds some better friends who actually care about her.
Hi! I’m the Mikaela ❤ I cut that person out completely and talked it out with my friends who do care. I appreciate your kind words ❤
@@Shebrewww Hopefully you feel better soon and like Lowrider said, you do find some better people to play with! It’s what you deserve, what happened that match you didn’t deserve at all.💜
@@Its_Dean0 Thank you so much! That truly means a lot to me! I only played with the TTV When my regular friend group was busy or working. Im feeling much better after reading everyones love! For a second, I truly thought I did something wrong but everyone has been so kind and I will never doubt myself again like that
Hope u do feel better @kaylaNelson
U seem chill too honestly like a fun person to play with so literally the logic too behind it made no sense for him to make everyone dc would of been quicker letting u all finish the match too instead of waiting for 3 dc penalty’s but I’m sorry that person treated u that way
I used to have a "friend" like this, and kicking them out of my life was the most freeing and eye opening experience ever. Highly recommend it to everyone - don't be scared to cut toxic people out of your life. You won't regret it, but you absolutely will regret staying around.
This dude deserves friends that act exactly like him, nothing more nothing less.
The fact that the other friends remained silent speaks volumes about the dynamics in their friend group.
if i was one of them id say "fuck him and lets play without him" so he understands that he cant pull this shit, he only thinks he can do this because the others allow him to
personally, i think they're just terrified of him. i've been in friendships and relationships with people like this and it's scary as hell
@thistletown2912 nah there's somethin about him they want. You can tell by how he weaponizes his friendshit as if its worth keeping. Either they like his personality outside this game or they like his status.
@@Algera96 or he values himself incredibly high
unfortunately, ive been the friend whos been gaslighted and shouted at like this.
Who knew spectating your friends was considered being held hostage. 😂
what a selfless person
Fr lol
😂😂😂
You know I used to play Dead by daylight and was always being hooked but I always had my phone to play on or some paper to doodle on
@@stephaniehoyland4901wrd, I think these toxic streamers forget that
"She was flirting with the killer" aka "I have the hots for her and she's having fun without me"
“if you wanna be like, selfish.. get out my lobby” says the same dude that wants all 3 of his friends to leave the game because he’s trash 🙃
"Flirt with the killer". Man has mad incel vibes. No normal person acts like this.
Yup he got a crush on her. Abusive tendencies. Probably only became her friend in hopes she would become FWB with him. I've experienced this before from fake male friends. When they(fake male friends not genuine male friends) catch on that you aren't interested in them romantically nor will you degrade yourself to being a fuck meat, they ghost you or turn into this guy.
What I find truly terrible is that the Mikaela took the high road and actually tried to end the argument and move on. She was done arguing, she was willing to get on with the game, and she didn't want to keep holding the stream hostage because the TTV was butthurt. But the irony is this guy who 'wanted her to admit she was wrong' couldn't admit when he was in the wrong, and kicked her for not agreeing with him. That's sick and it shows that this person hasn't matured enough to deserve dedicated friends like this.
Or a stream
Aye what’s up raven I watch ur channel ❤
On the ironic topic, he also told her to leave because he didnt want to stay in the lobby and watch, because he was streaming, but is ok with getting the 5 minutes of sitting in lobby. Its clear it wasnt for stream, he was salty and didnt want to sit there and watch the killer win.
the hypocrisy and childishness is crazy
Hiya raven didn't expect to see you here
That's a fuckin god complex. "If you wanna play with me, DC. I'm streaming, I hate waiting" dude. That's fucked up. I stream this with other streamer friends, and I get tunneled out at times, ya know what, I watch my friends bc that's what friends do. Offer support and help them win with advice.
I do the same, and help them find the hatch if they have the chance XD
Like imagine if all the streamers who played among us did this. Anytime one of them died they had to restart it all over again. Imagine how boring it would of been.
Seems like a really toxic narcassist. With friends like this who needs enemies
@@Ishidanfarded2370 maybe one dey hello her thought a lesson about because held hostage in a match in DBD One day if that TTV keeps acting like that
Good for her. She doesn't deserve that kind of abuse. Screw those others who were too cowardly to stand up against his abuses.
I bet he privately messaged then threatened them that if the others stand up for her they'll get reported and unfriend even kicked out of the game and much more, although it's just a guess and all
@@Slayer602ttv I thought the same thing
@@bonnie1079 it wouldn't be a surprise if that's why they didn't stand up for her but if they were threaten by him IDK why they have him as a ft but if he did threaten them then they are the same as him as well
I’m so surprised that girl even tried, if I was friends with someone like that, I would immediately block them.
She was the only person with common sense in that group and the other two "friends" did never say anything like when you see a person being bullied and never say a thing. I'm glad she stood up and is not friends with him anymore, friends come and go, you will find the right ones eventually.
I actually can't believe that.. I have mad respect for that girl for sticking up for herself and calling him out on his bullshit. Really hope she doesn't go back to being friends with him after this and that she finds better people
Hi ❤️ I’m the Mikaela! I blocked him on everything and moved on ❤️
@@Shebrewww Some people go NUTS over Dead by daylight of all things??? sorry you had to deal with that Kayla, if you ever need a SWF lmk, always looking for new friends. I hope he's embarrassed.
If I was their I’ll stick up to her and the rest of her friends we’re quiet they didn’t say anything and continue to ready up afterwards
@@Shebrewww props girl I'm so happy you stayed strong 💪 ❤️ f those guys.
@@Shebrewww good on you darling, im so glad you're not having to deal with that toxicity anymore... he's a joke, but good to know you've moved on and all is well ❤
She’ll definitely find better friend in the future, i feel bad for that poor soul 😢.
Also shame on the teammates for not standing up for her
Probably fake, but the killer in the vid commented saying him and the Mikaela SWF'd and played a few games together. Supposedly she doesn't associate with him anymore, big if true imo
You could find better friends in a Walmart parking lot
This gaslighting behavior is so toxic. It's great that she was standing up for herself and its good for people to see this kind of behavior, because maybe it will save someone else. Not only in DbD.
She really tried her best to keep it civil, good on her for being mature about the situation. If this is how this dude treats his friends, I can only hope he will have a major wake-up call in the future.
"... flirt with the killer..." There it is. He was jealous that the girl in his circle he had a crush on didn't auto-tilt the moment he got tunneled and then he felt cucked watching her socialize with the killer after. Ego shattered and what we saw was him desperately trying to salvage what was left.
what's wrong in having a crush on a girl of the group?
@@AdityaKumar69 Nothing. Guess the issue would be thinking having a crush on someone gives you input on who they socialize with on a casual level like in a short interaction in a DbD lobby. Dunno man, that part seems pretty weird.
@@AdityaKumar69 having a crush isn't wrong, behaving like an oversized toddler and being an asshole to your friends is though. how dare he demand everyone in the game stop playing, because hes butthurt? and not only that, he personally attacks her for talking back. he is not a friend, he behaves like a tyrant and all of his friends have to do what he says or they can "fuck off". hes a terrible human being
Imagine ruining a freindship over a video game.
It’s tragic how people act like this
Which means that their friendship has little of value to them
Ppl who play Minecraft be like
Personal experience with him, absolutely gross
@@clearspace4202 what's his name ? Joshua lmfao
For the two friends that didn't stick up for her just wow.
they could just be scared of the ttv, prob didn't wanna piss him off and make him angry, or they prob had nothing to add to the convo, it happens plenty of time irl and online, where your friends could remind silent or do nothing, its just human nature, not a movie.
always surprises me how people can't ever seem to grow up, great video as always Spook!
This TTV is just rude to his Friend this is just F***ked up
I lost it when he said "if you're selfish leave" XDDD the hypocrisy 101
Good for her for standing up for herself! You go Queen👑❤️
I'm really happy that she stood up for herself and props for being calm & trying to explain themselves too
I really hate that interaction so so much, I understand being upset at losing a game or just heated for getting camp/tunnel/etc., but there is no reason to be a huge jerk towards your friends and it was disgusting
I felt bad for her that this ttv was treating her like that and just acted so entitled like ugh, and as a person coming from dealing with toxic friendship and dealing with insult like that just anger me
I really do hope she is okay and recovering from that
Hi! I’m the Mikaela! I’m doing good! I blocked the TTV on everything and moved on :)))
@@Shebrewww Good for you. No one deserves to be treated like that, and I'm glad you stood up for yourself and stood your ground. Can't believe he called *you* selfish because you didn't immediately do what *he* wanted. 🙄
Hope you blocked the other two, too. If they're not going to stand up for you in that situation they're also not worth having around.
@@Shebrewww What is the TTV name
@@Shebrewww I am very sorry for the late reply, but I hope you're doing okay btw & recovering from this
But hey, I am down to play with dbd & give out chaotic vibes if you are ever down to do some survivors but if you like to (:
@@mykiimare_ I’m always down for chaotic vibes!!!! Im usually the only one throwing those down!!! Where can I add you? ❤️
What’s really sad is that the DC penalty is probably longer than how long the match would have lasted in the end had he just let them play.
I also don’t understand how someone can be so self-entitled that when they die first, everyone else has to cater to them. I’ve watched streamers die first and they have fun watching their teammates and making jokes about their looping and such. This whole video was a roller coaster and the end conversation was definitely expected.
As the legends say:
With friends like these, who need enemies?
Good for her, stand up for yourself and what you think is right! I hope she finds friends who can appreciate her for the awesomeness she really is.
I wish the DBD community as a whole was more like her and had her attitude! Kudos :D
That guy saved her a whole hell of a lot of future headaches, and I hope she realizes that she's way better off, and that there are better communities out there to be a part of. This level of hypocrisy, this is just the tip of the iceberg, and there was so much more drama coming with someone like this. I hope she finds a better group of friends, because it sounds to me like she's the only genuine person in that group, and any community would be lucky to have her.
This is so fucking sweet!!!! I’m the Mikaela!!! Thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@Shebrewww do you stream? I would love to follow/watch if you do. I am not very good at DBD but I love the game and do my best. I like to watch people play to learn new tricks.
jeez, i really feel for that mikaela. she kept it together way better than i would during that ordeal, and considering her tone that's saying a whole lot.
That poor girl needs better friends.
Heya, I just want to thank you for all the content you have. I lost my dad 4 months ago and watching your videos have made it be a little less painful. Love your videos much
I’m very sorry for your loss ❤️
I cannot believe how level headed and nice she was the ENTIRE time especially when he kept yelling at her spouting off his non sense constantly. I woulda bit his head off if he talked to me like that.
The fact the others didnt say a single word not one. Is insane especially after he kicked her. Im glad you said she isnt friends with him anymore hopefully she gets better friends then that guy jeez.
Dude I was on xbox he was on ps4 I can't talk with them
I remember being in a group like this, it was the worst thing I have ever experienced but I’m glad I was able to escape them. Hopefully she feels much better being away from them
@OneDayAlways nope because of the threats I’ve gotten including my life especially when they knew where I lived but I did it anyways and now I know they too scared to try me
Nah bc I genuinely feel so bad for the girl in the party
She's constantly getting cut off when she speaks & can barely defend herself
& the "get out of my party then" was so unbelievably uncalled for. It's okay to get frustrated at the game sometimes but my god- taking it out on your FRIENDS & telling them to leave when they don't agree with you?? It's such disgusting behavior. I truly hope she was okay after that bc personally I'd be really hurt
agreed, i wanna know the name of this ttv so i could possibly message her
@@darkcarnival68 Hi
@@Shebrewww Got a discord?
@@darkcarnival68 I do! Its Shebrewww#1527
Thanks Spooks for covering this, I feel really bad for her, and if she see's this don't worry you seem like a real one homie, you'll most definitely find a good friend group to hang out with, and I hope you get a lot of wholesome interactions with the rest of the community.
Seeing a friendship end on a game, my heart hurts
This isn't a friendship. Don't worry. If anything the dude did her a favor by pushing her away.
props to her for being the adult in the situation. hope she finds better friends.
i feel so bad for her, really did not deserve any of that crap, usually when i die first i stay and spectate and tell my friends “give them a tbag for me” 😂
Yeah It's normal when the boys get together for if one of us dies to just hop in spectate and hype the others up and coach.
Hyping up friends in spectate makes the salt of being tunneled out first go away
@@rasmachris94 "the boys"😂
I would LOVE to play with that Mikaela. She's not only very calm, but also standing up for herself and expressing herself very clearly and intelligent. Anywhere you are gal, you're the best example to this community, I hope you have fun playing in both, new SWF or Solo-q.
Hi! I’m the Mikaela! I’m always down to play and meet new people ❤️
@@AstrisxWSX stop asking this question kid . Nobody will answer
@@AstrisxWSX I wont be giving out their name because I have moved on and don't want them to receive any hate! I've moved past this situation and want to focus on the positive
@@Shebrewww You are absolutely lovely and I’m sure you have no shortage of people to play with, but I will totally adopt you if you need some not shitty people to play with! 🖤
@@Shebrewww I'd be down to game with you! I think you're gonna trade off one douchebag for a bunch of awesome people. So at least something positive came from this.
I love how Wesker is just standing there like, "Bruh..." 😒
Recently found your channel and have been devouring the content. Love what you do and love that you dont name names. Its more than just showing us the darker side of streamers. It shines a light on things we are all guilty of from time to time and forces us to be more mindful of the way we conduct ourselves. Truly appreciate your videos and the lessons learned along the way.
She wanted to "flirt" with the killer? Excuse me? LOL
If I was in a party with them and he spoke to her like that I would’ve been cussing
People are just too soft. That is a thing with this game. Nobody in this community has MW2 style balls.
@@DonaldDuck-s8v dudes just annoying as hell and entitled thinking they have to DC because he died first it’s not about softness
@@DonaldDuck-s8v do you think he'll get banned 🚫 for twitch and dead by daylight if he keeps acting like this? Because if hope he does get banned 🚫 from twitch and DBD
This actually kind of has some comical timing, I just recently got a friend while streaming dead by daylight and she was actually in a very similar relationship to this . I found her through the toxic friend and it was quite the awkward and interesting thing for me to be there, so for context, my parents and siblings haven't always had the best relationships with each other, so I definitely know what bad and toxic relationships look like and we just kind of kicked the toxic person out cuz he bad-mouthed my friends saying that he started it trying to gaslight, me and the three of us just weren't having any of his shit
And I forgot to mention this in the actual comment, but he would try to constantly guilt trip and then try to make it all seem like it was all a joke or something funny to laugh at when in reality he was just insulting people
I felt bad for the friends having to suffer a DC penalty just because the TTV died how's spectating beginning hold hostage? Just because he can't be asked to spectate or wait until the match comes to an end
the match woulda most likely been about 5-10 more minutes, he coulda stood up and said brb washed his face went to the toilet and then came back fresh for the next match. But apparently he would rather sit in the lobby and wait the 5min penalty while berating a "Friend" and not even listen to what the "Friend" was saying.
If he was my teammate and all and he told me to DC I was say no because you are being salty, plus he could have just left and started a new lobby to get into a mew match too as well
@@snowrangerx at the end of the day there was no reason for him to have a go at his friends like that it was uncalled for especially forcing them to DC like that to receive the penalty it's unfair to others that are playing with you. You bound to have a bad match eventually you can't have a perfect game all of the time I'm always sitting in spectate mode if I escape or get sacrificed so I can watch my friends to see if they escaped
@@lukethefluke71 100% agreed
I love how even the game itself was shocked at him kicking her out with the dramatic sting lol
Dude must've been turned down by her before and all that anger he felt came out lmao shes definitely better off without that toxic friendship
That girl deserves his whole channel AND ALL of his gaming gear
Bruh he’s playing on console with the shittiest mic, his setup is probably just a bunch of cardboards 📦
Hi
@@Shebrewww do itttt you got my follow
@@Shebrewww stream! You def have my follow as well. If you do please let us know
@@nostromoplays my twitch is shebrewww, I just never stream! I’ll start doing that, maybe I’ll blow up and be a positive example for others out there :)
Feel so bad for the girl he was just drilling into 😭
I hope she was able to find other people to support her since this guy clearly isn’t and hasn’t been a good friend to her
I feel so bad for that girl she need new friends they're so toxic :(
I can’t tell if he or that pfp is more cringe
That’s rough. If she needs new DbD friends there are plenty of chill groups out there
Mans out here like emperor palpatine, this treacherous act shall not go unnoticed
It's always so hard to believe that people with so little self awareness exist
Believe it. Middle schools throughout the US are full of students who act like that.
TTV when they die first: Why are we here? Just to suffer?
Also, dude is the embodiment of the Squidward at the window meme.
Jeez, I feel so bad for her, she just wanted to finish her game and he guilt tripped her into DC'ing 😞 I'm so happy she stood up for herself.
A huge thing I learned from my years in Rainbow Six Siege is simply that, when youre dead/out of the game- youre *not* out of the game! Give intel, try to help determine the killer's perks, etc! There's tons you can do even as a spectator, and thats what makes a team so strong in these games!
I'd happily play DBD with that girl. She seems nice 🙂 The streamer just lost a good friend and she's lost nothing by ditching him
in a thread here, she mentioned she goes by "Shebrewww" on discord
Imagine ruining a friendship because you died in dbd 💀
Based on my experience and observations, if your friendship dies to something as dumb as this, chances are it was doomed from the start
If you have a teammate and I die Frist and we're a swf I try to hell them anyway I can and all
"you're a traitor" Someone please quote this and let's remember it forever, someone actually just said this over DBD.
"You're a traitor Harry"
"Im a what?"
Im sorr y i just had to
@@Kopio01 "you're a traitor, your parents were also traitors, they were murdered by a man 1 night looking for you!"
Things you can do while spectating:
1. Be helpful and kind, you have information they may not have right away, you can be more perceptive.
2. Play a game while you wait, mobile,computer,flash game,etc. Talk to your chat where applicable.
3. Just leave the match and do something else while you wait. Use it as a chance to get a bathroom break, get some food or some snacks,etc.
Edit: side note, blessed that girls heart for taking up for herself. Hopefully she can find a better community to be apart of.
"I get tunneled so now you have to give up your bloodpoints and take a dc penalty cause im butthurt" is what this translates too
Once again Spooks spitting facts. This feels like the kid that turns of the XBOX the moment he loses to avoid seeing a "Fail" screen
The only thing I will say is: If you're a 4man squad, and the killer tunnels 1, and switches to farming, we rush and leave asap.
Na Dc cause if he’s not having fun nobody is.
@@ToxicVex267 Nah. I understand it's no fun to wait, so we either play normal or we sweat and move onto the next game with our friend.
Wow, I feel so bad for that Mikaela, That guy was a total narcissist and should never treat his friends like that, and what's even worse is that the others in the group didn't do a single thing either, I'm not big in the DBD streaming scene but I would think that dude's "friends" are just as bad as he is if they just blindly follow his every command like they are his underlings.
I've had toxic relationships in the past, and I don't wish this kind of thing on anybody but I do hope that Mikaela finds some new people to play with who will treat her like an actual human being rather than just a pawn.
Some people have a hard time making good friends, and this guy is over here throwing them away for no reason. His loss.
Such a fucking queen. I Stan her so hard. She even defended herself well and was clearly the better, bigger person.
The dude has a complex and should never have a platform, sorry not sorry 😂
HI
@@Shebrewww respect for standing up for yourself 👸 fuck that guy and I hope your future matches are fun and better!
"I'm streaming"
Ah yes, my favorite content... Staring at a surv pre-game waiting out a penalty that was forced by butthurt attitude. Truly compelling content.
Guy has all the typical hallmarks of the average narcissist, good on her for calling him out.
What a jerk. Literally nothing else to say.
I've myself left 2 toxic people and can say my life has been much better since, I respect that she stayed respectful and wanted to talk about it and I'm happy that she is (hopefully) not with this guy anymore. Kick the toxic people out of your life!
I've played dbd frequently with someone I met on Deviantart who liked my art and vice versa, we still play nowadays and if things are looking grim, we sacrifice oirselves to give each other a chance to escape. Never once had to ask them to dc or whatever and we have done this with 0 issues for nearly 3 years now.
I can kinda relate to the girl in this video. Last week when the Halloween event started one of the people in my DBD group chat asked if anyone wanted to hop in and play some SWF. A few of us said yes and got a party chat set up. One of the people who said yes didn’t join the chat or the game for like 15 minutes at which one of my friends (another meme er of this same DBD group chat) hopped in the chat party and lobby and was looking to play. One member in the chat immediately started asking why they joined or were here and when they simply said they wanted to play some DBD this person asked if we wanted to do KYF or something. We said sure why not we could do that when the other guy joined if that’s what people want. We readied up in the lobby, this guy started getting incredibly angry at my friend saying they’re being an asshole and acting super shitty because they joined when we already had a 4th (who was still a no show) on the way and that both my friend and ME are being awful for the fact we readied up. When we tried to say that we simply figured we could play a match or two while we wait for the other guy to join since we had a full lobby atm, they started yelling at us both and calling us all kinds of names and ranting about us being shit friends because we would dare to ready up and try to play while waiting for this no show guy who still had not said anything in chat in 20+ minutes now. We tried asking why this guy was so angry over such a silly thing and that we simply wanted to play a match since we’re all sitting here together waiting to do KYF anyway, now the guy took back his suggestion to play KYF and instead said both me and my friend to to GTFO of their lobby and the DBD group chat because they didn’t want to play with people who would act the way we were apparently acting. They went on a rant asking who ever even invited us into the group chat to begin with cause they hadn’t done it and when we pointed out that this person isn’t the god of DBD and that we’ve been here playing with plenty of people in the group for well over a year now they got even more pissed and kept telling us both to get out of the lobby and group chat cause they refused to play with assholes like us. We refused and they deleted me from their friends list and blocked my friend.
"So, you SWF'd to stack the deck in your favor, lost, and then you don't want to wait for them to finish playing? You would expect them to wait for you? Your throne, Your Highness." *gestures to dumpster*
Man this TTV sounds so familiar..... Gotta figure it out .
Keep me updated
He just sounds like popular streamer Sweh, but it’s not him. He doesn’t play on console.
Salty TTV’s are prob my fav part of the game ngl
Salty and entitled people is makes me grab some extra popcorn.
i swear the only reason i play dbd still is for the salty people makes it so much fun
@@blackstar5111 Same lol i laugh at the "threats" they send me and its even funnier If its a ttv
This is so cringe. This guy is not even sure of his own words, he stumbles on everything.
This kind of people shouldn't stream. I'm glad she got out of the lobby, it's healthier for her.
the teammates missed a huge opportunity to give this guy a reality check by all leaving when she was booted. what a joke.
"If you wanna be selfish" HE DID NOT JUST FUCKING SAY THAT WTF
For someone to treat their friend like that, and Gaslight like that is crazy. Can’t believe that’s a real person, over a DBD Game too 😓
Not even that good of a game at that. Dude acts like he's playing in the NFL or something and sitting on the side lines is a massive waste of his time when he could be giving call outs to his teammates instead.
If you have a friend like this, run.. block them.. get away from them. All they do is bring you down and bring negativity to your life. I stuck around for years with a friend just like this and all it did was make my life bitter and stressful, and I was constantly walking on eggshells. Glad she's not friends with this person anymore, it can mess with your head when someone gaslights you and controls you like this.
This Is Genuinely Sad...The Fact That He's Whining Over Getting Tunneled, At This Point Just Stop Playing The Game If Your Gonna Cry Over Getting Tunneled.
That's not the saddest point honestly, his shitty attitude towards his friends is the saddest part.
When he said "you have to accept when you're in the wrong" i wanted to scream
Him later: idk why she just freaked out and started screaming at me for no reason. She’s legit crazy. I was being nice and reasonable. Maybe I’m just too nice.
Holy shit. Normally, I laugh at these people like "haha, what a salty baby" but this guy actually infuriated me
She was nicer than I would have been, lol.
Straight ass facts bro
At least she is no longer friends with him
“Flirt with the killer” is so telling.
The sheer audacity to behave this way and think you're 100% in the right is just beyond me... 😳
Is there a legal reason as to not show the names of these people? Not the victims and bystanders but the abuser/assailant who continue to cause these problems. Do you think if we showed their names it would help us find the same people who just change names/accounts?
I would be shocked if they're still friends after this. I can't imagine forcing my friends to dc just because I had a bad game.
it’s unfortunate she was part of that friend group, i hope she finds a better group of people
I hope next game she gets a friendly killer that lets her get all 5 gens or a meme build killer like jumpscare Michael that only scares them and doesn’t hook and let’s them go and for the other guy I hope all his games are fulled with nurses running the sweatiest build and he gets tunneled each game.
I feel for his mother. Imagine pushing out a ego that big.
Ugly cackling at this one
“I’m not even gonna argue with you.”
“Then get off my team!”
So you WANT to argue?
That girl did not deserve that, That's straight verbal harassment, I hope those 2 other people in the lobby felt bad after because that says something when you don't speak up for your friend or yourself...