Descent into the Underworld 觀落陰 (Wu Shamanism)
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2023
- Guan Luo Yin is a practice of wu shamanism found primarily in the South Pacific. Methodologies differ. One approach is as an astral journey to the underworld to see the spirits of those who have passed on. Another is as a method of "remote viewing."
Some traditions conceptualize the descent as beginning from the entrance to a cave at the base of a mountain; others conceptualize it as a palace with many floors descending (as opposed to ascending the way floors of a building are constructed in the physical earthly world).
This video serves as an introduction to the practice.
See also:
Wu Shamanism (巫術): Just a Rumination, • Wu Shamanism: Just a R...
Taoist Spirit Maps (靈圖, Língtú), • Taoist Spirit Maps (靈圖...
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I'm testing out a new video editing program and experimenting with some of its AI functions. Please let me know if you notice any difference in the editing, the audio, the cropping, or the eye contact (one of the AI functions is to improve eye contact, i.e., make your eyeballs look at the camera, or something to that effect). Thanks!
So far it's great except for the audio having almost like a filter on it. Almost like your voice is going through a can. I like everything else!! Much love!! 🌹🏵️🌹
@@will-love-lvx hmm, thanks for that input. For audio effects, I clicked on the option "studio sound." out of curiosity, is it worse than any of my previous videos? I'm trying to confirm whether the audio issue is my own issue or if the editing program actually managed to make it worse. :-P
The previous video was much clearer. I think the studio sound might be adding the effect I'm speaking of.
It makes look as if your are are sometimes bigger and as if your iris was darker (I hope it's making sense) but it's good.
Thank you for teaching me.
This reminds me of my ayahuasca journey last year...a Chicana shaman who practices the medicine from her indigenous lineage facilitated the experience. The integration process after the ceremony was where I journeyed into the underworld through dreams and encounters with my deepest darkest fears and traumas. A tough experience for sure but beautifully transformative and has given me a greater appreciation of life.
Katabasis, or underworld journeying, is a common theme in western myths. Practical details of old traditions like the Orphic or Eleusinian Mysteries are likely lost to mundane means of rediscovery, forever. However, I think traditions like Wu and other surviving shamanic journeying practices offer modern practitioners effective ritual technologies to reference when pondering how the ancient practices may have worked.
Yes I did a workshop on that topic before! The Eleusinian Mysteries are one of my favorite topics to learn more about! ❤
Eastern Taoism predates Orphism and Eleusinian mystery schools, both of which are probably knock offs of Eastern “mysticism” as almost everything in the west was LITERALLY already in existence hundreds to THOUSANDS of years before Europeans had Greek civilization…
While everyone else is going to Halloween parties, here I am learning about Wu shamanism on my Saturday night. 😊
Good on you!!!
Thank you so much for explaining this so clearly. I was always curious about how such rituals are performed. When I was little, I lived in a village where there were many stories about a medium who called on a spirit, a ghost, or even a fox spirit (狐仙) to find things, communicate with departed relatives, etc. Because such practice was banned back then, I never witnessed such rituals but people rumoured such rituals were performed in secrecy!! One of my favourite poet 白居易 Bai Ju-yi described one such ritual performed by a Taoist priest looking for a royal concubine 杨玉环 requested by Emperor 唐玄宗 in his very long poem 长恨歌 or The Song of Eternal Sorrow!!
This seems like a great guided journey into the psyche/soul and with a good guide is probably very enlightening and liberating. I'm always so fascinated by how culture, language and myth are so emeshed in psyche. As a form of alchemy in the study of Taoism, I can't fully know the Chinese cultural nuance and so I focus on the universal truth found within it.
Thank you for sharing this insightful video! I loved everything you shared! I learn through Sara Mastros some elements of Katabasis which pretty much is underworld journeying, and I love to see how cultures share similarities in this particular practice.
Thanks for commenting in one of my videos and giving me the opportunity to get to see you and your content!
I live in England, and I wish I could experience this. My ancestors on my mothers side, were life savers, as lifeboat men. And on my fathers side, it's a mystery that traces back to a small village in Cornwell. That shares my fathers family name.
Awesome video!
As a Chinese American, I thank you for this.
Thank you for making this video. There's a lot there to unpack. Lots of similarity with some of the practices my friends and I experimented with years ago. We thought we were creating new systems of magick, only to find out later we were just rediscovering a very old technology, probably from the akasha I would suppose. We did the blindfold thing, but the talismans over the eyes is a great idea. Also the talismans under the feet and under the furniture legs reminds me of enochian magic, which has something very similar to that.
Anyway thanks again for this and all you do! Your channel is awesome! I very much enjoy watching your videos! 🙂
You’re spiritual and beautiful and smart so I like every time.
Amazing presentation and analysis yet again 😊 your work is very informative and insightful to say the least. Please keep empowering the community 🙏
Fantastic videos for research and stories. Thank you 😊
Thank you, I am grateful for the video for the content regarding the subject. It is very useful and informative for the practice information
Really enjoying your videos, thank you. I have been pondering the term Angry Ghosts for a while and wonder if you have insights you can offer as to what they represent either in a video or in your book/
Thank you for sharing this. I have had Generational Trauma healed with these practices of various Paths. (Indigenous)
A reiki master i apprentice under has a technique of guided journeying that's just dynamite for healing. I've had a couple of those sessions myself, supported in many more, and will be learning to practice the technique myself this summer
Brilliant video, thank you!
I would love to have this experience. I have connections in China and family in South Korea so I think I will one day look into this.
Anyway, another cool video.
The end of the video kinda reminded me of my grandmother and some of the things she did around me when I was little. Based on certain things that I have seen, for me, there is definitely more than what we currently know through science.
This is excellent thank you Benebell for sharing.
Because it's precious knowledge we truly are you sharing with us ❤
This was so informative I appreciate your vast knowledge and willingness to share.
thank you for another good video.
Thank you for making your videos.
Very informative and also interesting to see how shamanistic practices express themselves in different cultures yet there always seems to be similarities. Hecate, triple goddess of the underworld, Shamanic vision quests of the Americas with the ancestors, and in general ancestor worship- communication.
As far as Guan Yin, The Lotus Sutra as other Sutras as well specifically mentioned that a devotee may call upon the Bodhisattva Mahasattva for nearly any form of danger or need or protection. After all she is the one ‘ who hears the cries of the world’.
Just recently found your channel, after purchasing The Book of Changes you authored. So far I’m loving it! Thank you 🙏🏻
Excellent video, thank you very much for sharing this information. It is very much appreciated ❤
Beautiful explanation good video presentation 👁️
Thank you, you never know who you're helping give insight to.
I love this. Thanks 🙏 All I know is the video looked very good and it looked like we could see each other lol. I didn't read about the AI until I had watched the whole thing so I didn't know what to look for. I'll be watching it again many times though ✨
Thank you for your work.
I can access realms of endless novelty under the influence of 5 dried grams in silent darkness. Thats my own personal shamanistic practice. I haven’t even begun to use DMT yet. So much to look forward to.
Could you please make a video explaining the ancestral curse? Thank you. 💖
Interesting that people believe unusual experiences are an advantage.
Surely, in a Universe that always returns to zero we should be relaxing into an authentic surrender.
The mind is susceptible to agitation in any case.
Why agitate the mind any more than it already is?
Communication occurs within the mind regardless of dualistic view and it's external impressions.
The Buddha went to great lengths to teach one how to subdue the mind so that clarity may dawn.
I guess this post is a nod towards the increasingly popular festival of Halloween.
I really did notice more "eye contact " with the camera. I really appreciate the video. Great material.
Yeah that is 100% auto-edited by AI. Part of me kind of likes it. Part of me is a little creeped out. 😅 It looks like lifeless eyes gazing into the camera lens void. 😂
@@BenebellWen I prefer natural you versus AI enhanced unnatural you. just my opinion
Wouldn’t have noticed the eye-thing if you hadn’t mentioned it. But now that I see it, there are a few moments where the, “stare” is slightly unnatural vis-a-vis head movements. 👁 👁 No biggie, though.
From a Jungian psychologists point of view it is very real reminds me of Jungs concept of active imagination , I have had encounters with ancestors , ect , I would do chair excerises similar to Fritz pearls gestalt therapy and the efficacy of gestalt is not fully understood either
I would suggest going to such places with a friend or at least with a protective spirit of some sort.
We do watch taped sessions of ourselves in psychotherapy programs to track our use of skills
The use of rhythm in these types of ceremonies seems to be fairly consistent amongst varied faiths. I think it's interesting how different percussive methods have been used in different cultures, and can't help but wonder whether there's something linked to your eralier mention of frequency response that makes some prefer wooden high-pitched drums, some prefer low-pitched skin drums, and some prefer the kinds of synthetic sounds available through computer manipulation.
I think the one "Wu Shamanist" that deserve most recognition in modern socio-politico studies is Qinshihuang's court sorceror Xu Fu (of the "1,000 virgin boys & girls to Mt. Fuji/Mt. Penglai" fame); Xu Fu must've saw the end to Qin Empire and concocted the grand "Elixir of Life" subterfuge where he made his great escape w/talented community of artisans, skilled labourers, a population of young boys and girls... to start new life and new city anew... allegedly contributing to the end of the Jomon period of ancient Japan... and contributing "Wu Shamanism's" illicit reputation under the succeeding Han Dynasty; the practice of which punishable by death, and forcing the primitive lineage of Shamanism underground in the philosophically Confucian state of the Han, and redeveloping, refining and redefining themselves as the modern Chinese-Shamanistic interpretation of *'Daoism'* which I'm sure regained much favoritism as our norther nomadic tribes continued to contribute to the peopling of the Asian heartland we generally call *'China'.*
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I am a psychopomp I am taken outside the zones of human consciousness I don't go myself. A higher consciousness puts a light down and I have nano seconds to do what they want me to do any more energy in the sterile and I am loitering.
I witness the between influence the below.
Piles of evil people in places there is a drain with sinking shapes of people hands stick out of the ground. 3 east points 3 west 1 north no south boundary out the south it's void of anything. The points are boundaries. 5 senses are dulled the 6th sense is magnified crystal clear. I don't feel a lot of outside stuff I hear the wailing and screaming though.
One of my guardian angels lived central highlands china I think 8th century he was a goat herder poet and studied the Tao.. he comes through me at the between.. granted charge over me and not just him.
This sounds very similar (in principle - in psychotherapy context there are obviously no ritualistic tools, and this is not limited to "going to the Underworld") to the Carl Jung's concept of "active imagination", which is still used by many Jungian analysts with patients. Jung's "Red Book" was based on his "conversations" during such exercises.
Thank you. I have a question. Is there such a thing as natural messengers ( like channeling I mean)? Thank you for your time.
Could you do a video on Zhong Kui? Thanks
Good timing this gets released in Autumn 😏
I’ve seen video documentaries about this filmed in Taiwan 😊
Is there any accuracy in tv shows like 僵尸先生？Could you please make some Chinese TV show or movie recommendations?
American Indians say that they emerged from the underworld after the last great cataclysm which we live in the leftovers from that world. ie fossils, stones, gems, opals, mountains and valleys and the petrified world beneath our feet. They followed the ant peoples underground for protection......funny thing this is a common thread in many ancient traditions.
22:45 I'm currently in Thailand, but I'll be in Malaysia soon. Do you know of any temples who offer this near Samut Prakan?
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Once again, thank you for this. I noticed that to abput Kuan Yin. It annoyed ne that I was being pushed to call on a duety I did not feel connected to as well. I really appreciate hearing what you can share.
Thank you.
I start watching this video at 5:55 pm does that have any meaning?
Would you liken this to Shan Ren Dao, developed by peasant saint Wang Fengyi ??
I don't have much personal knowledge of Northern traditions, so I wouldn't want to comment on it.
Hi, I recently started working as a cook
in a factory where only Chinese people work :)
I wonder if among these people there is at least one person
who practices shamanism or knows someone who does
because if so, I could ask someone to bring me an amulet or talisman from China :)
but not decorations from a souvenir shop, but a real, consecrated one from some temple :>
Is this possible? Do you know someone like this from China?
who could do this for me?
If I knew a specific address, I could ask at work if anyone lived nearby.
My problem is as follows, apparently there are several spiritual beings living in my house, two of them are my grandmother and my great-grandfather, ex-human spirits,
the remaining 4 or five were creatures that were never human
and they are not entirely friendly, apparently they treat us as their hosts/feeders.
I don't have the mystical abilities to check this, I wonder if Wu shamans know rituals
that can unlock these abilities in someone? Lucid Dreaming OOBE etc
Cleanse all the chakras and protect themselves against all dangers?
Simply make our magical rituals work, instead of being empty actions that cause no reaction
Am I correct in assuming that someone who has aphantasia (inability to visualize / “blind mind’s eye”) would not be able to go on this journey ourself - meaning the priest/ess would need to complete the journey for us?
It depends, when I work with clients that have this I tend to work with sensations more, to create the journey. In my Vipassana training, we are taught to exclusively to focus on sensation, visualization is disregarded. If clients want to me journey for them, than I can.
It's a Daoist hypnosis session.
4:02 Is she comparable to Hecate?
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Incense rises up into the Air, descent falls into the pen on paper bear ~ looking up the eyes were met ~ {moving} over to the frame, pages under foot Shamans claimed . . . where's the Will at that, being blindfolded there he sat - Saterns' much like that.
I prefer your own, natural, (even with mistakes), production. I don't mind you having to look at your notes. Actually, it makes it look more real if you do. Personally, I dislike any kind of computer enhanced productions. Humans, even with their faults or perhaps because they have some, are beautiful enough for me.
Mad how this is what I've been doing, Journeying introduced me to chthonic energy, which led me to Haides, Hermes, Hekate, and a desire to open an underworld gate. Many who look into shamanism seems to be drawn to cthonic themes, It isn't exact but gives me ideas on preparing for such work.
11:12 - isn't this just a description of hypnagogues' phenomenon?
eyes covered, secretion of more melatonin and then visions which are a biological phenomenon,
not a mystical one? :(
PS. you are also talking to a Pole from Poland :D me :>
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Do not consult a phd or someone who is not a shaman, the underworld is not what you think it is. As a slavic shaman I have been in all the levels of the underworld since birth and as an elder now, no one should ever have to suffer the sickness or horror from journeying there. Mythology only expresses the sorrow of the underworld, but it's a lot more horric and worse than this after a 4000 year patriarch. There is no reason to go to the underworld unless you are bringing a "light" soul aspect back from the past or burning of a "dark" past life soul (demon) through real purification of suffering. The shaman must do both themselves in order to help others. Our demon soul (we all have them) either conscious or asleep of this reality, holds this lighter soul of ours captive and a shaman (non drug non plant), has the power to keep the demons at bay, even up to 1000, although one demon would rip an average person to shreds. This is so a person can reclaim this part that they lost when on the journey. No shaman can return this part to you, you have to do it in the journey as a tandem. My black jaguar would always protect the person reclaiming their fragmented aspect as a child, while I would lead the whole group into the journey at whatever level they needed to see. Most times its a person's soul when they were a child or teen, and rarely older than 20 to 30 years old. (soul fragment) that is prepared for in many journeys to slowly reclaim. For those working with past life issues of karma, its a much longer process, sometimes 20 to 40 years to dissolve the karmic demon astral body through suffering in the mundane world, while mastering disciplines and committing to self healing.
I never like micro editing. If something is worth listening to gaps between sentences are not a problem. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing this, there are many indigenous cultures around the world with similar practices that have been demonized and persecuted by the Jewish and British supremacists that colonized this world. Many such cultures have been completely erased, so it's very important to study the ones who managed to survive in order to cultivate restoration and remembering.
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PHILADELPHIA ELEVATOR DAGGER IN THE HEART. FU LIFE PROOF-OF-CONCEPT LOVE FOR HER..HELL! FU WAS SENT TO FIGHT EVIL NOT TO DIE FOR HER A WOMAN'S LOVE AKA SUZANNE!☯☯🦇🀄.............2001 SEPTEMBER .....LIFE FU IS BY HEAVEN TO SERVE HEAVEN!
Sounds very much like a glorified hypnosis. Nothing occult about this.
this is so cool