@keevre There shouldn't be anything keeping you from doing that. I always immediately switch to holding up right after I hit the two a's (though I like to hold down back while doing that combo so I don't accidentally get his sweep on the ground). Just mess with it without the intent of continuing the combo just to see if you can do it. You can also jump cancel off his B attack\ if you need another example.
I know all that, but I tried to recreate the effect and it didn't deal nearly as much damage. In this video it deals enough damage to kill Tager. When I did it it only dealt maybe 3/4.
mugen is quarter circle back x2 b. it slowly drains his magatama but all the moves that would normally require u to use magatama r completely free and cost nothing to use.
no it makes all his magatana moves cost nothing but the magatana drains over a period of time to zero you can think of it as a timer to your (infinity mode)
Mugen is great, the problem with it however is that it has a crapload of startup and can't really be reliably setup unless its from a 6D or off a counter hit 6A. I'm still playing around with the potential of it though.
Dudes, is there any way to jump cancel in this game? I just start playing this game on the PC about three days ago and I make combos like the ones on the video but for instance at 0:22 he jumps at the same time he hits and I can't seem to do that. Any help?
@Slayerx49 dash in>j.214C is really unpredictable but the timing takes practice and it costs 3 stars. Also the 1st hit of 214B makes the next hits stronger so cancel the 2nd hit with 214A for big combos. Finally you have his grab which you can follow up with 214A for combos. 623A can go through some moves. Finally, 6C counter hit can almost always follow up to 632146C for big, easy damage.
you don't have to remember all that. just learn 1 combo with your character that starts anywhere is easy to start (say it starts off a quick weak attack). practice that for 15 minutes and then go online and keep trying it. you'll fail for awhile and miss the timing, but keep trying. within 1 hour you'll have the motions memorized and you won't forget it, even if its still hard to do. in a month, you'll have it perfect w/out trying. learn a new one each week. its easy!
when you use barrier burst, your defense is lowered, and after his slash special which can half way kill you w/o barrier burst if blade hit you, that can kill you
his drive is instant. human reaction time is actually very long when one has to choose between choices. If I remember right, it's almost a half a second when more than one or two choices is involved. Prediction lets you lower the number of choices to as low as possible. that lets you bring your reaction time down. (if you can make the prediction that they will burst or they will not burst, that's when the .2 SECONDS comes in (.2 ms is .000002 sec, way too short)
so you mean to tell me having to wait to use special attacks is better than chaining like 3 or 4 at a time with NO COST? plus your other drives are free as well. how does that suck?
if you google it you'll find most of it, but the 1-9 Deirectionals are the most used it's ment to show where to move the stick or where to push on the D-pad like so 789 (7 =Jump back 8= Neutral Jump 9 = jump To) 456 (4 = walk back/ block -5 = Stand -6 = Walk to ) 123 (1 = Crouch back - 2 = Neutral Crouch - 3 = Crouch to ) it's makes tracking Combos and inputs in notes easier. Hoped this helps
if someone barrier bursts you can counter with Hakumens D button which will do A LOT of dmg to your opponents health bar. If you've got 4 magatamas do the combo 6, very effective. You just gotta get the timing right of when the person will barrier burst
In my personal opinion, Professional Haku-men players are rare due to the limited combos he can pull off on opponents due to his limited ground movement his slower attacks and his short duration of counter moves he is given. A haku-men player has hard times against quick players like taokaka and bang which make him a bit more complicated to play and his bar required to do moves are consuming magmatamas which are consumed rather quickly in combos.
what about this? [ 214214B, 63214C (both hits)> 214A (one hit)>236C>C, 8B+C, Falling B, Air 214C land and dash, 236C>C, 8B+C Falling B, Air 214C Land 632146C (don't hold) ]
It can easily be replaced by a counter assault with any other character. Hell Tager can just eat it up with a guard point. And quite frankly, predicting a burst and timing that D correctly is not even as easy as it looks.
@XINKAI he is faster than tager however (tho thats not very hard to achieve im guessing) his range with that sword is just stupid (C attack) plus it cuts projectiles. the counter attack is just as useful maybe even more useful than Bang's autogaurd drive and his distortions take off ridiculous amounts of health. good players with him are hell but if people take advantage of his slow attacks then he isnt too hard to beat even with low tiers like bang and tager.(well tager has trouble with C spam)
mmm like 25%-35% less... maybe lower damage than that. Negative penalty is adds a huge amount of damage to combos. and remember this combo only insta-kills because hes in danger too, if you try this combo from any other attack(countering lets say a B) at best it would be a 5000 dmg combo or a lil less.
@Slayerx49 To start, play defensively. Haku doesnt have very good mobility on tge ground and he's too obvious in the air. If you're playing CS you can keep people out with 4C. Once you start getting stars a great way to get in is dash in>j.214B. Theres a short time when you dash that your in the air but the timing takes practice. But it has invincibility, if they block they loose a primer, and it can Fatal Counter for HUGE damage.
@Slayerx49 His counter isn't necassary but is beastly if you master it. It makes people second guess their descisions, opening the door for you to be more aggresive. His high/ low game is pretty decent too. 2B or 214B both have the potential to lead to big combos while 6B or dash in>j.214C make good overheads. 6A also shuts down a lot of airdash and jump in attempts.
@Kokatsusa Now on a friendlier note: You were saying that no one saw the "danger mode". I'm just saying, when one, "barrier bursts", they get in "danger mode"; so it is kind of obvious, its part of the combo. They're not exactly fooling anyone, it is the consequence for "bursting". You correct me and 'visa-versa'. I am aware that this is more of an ass-'ier' note than a friendly one. BUT! Don't take it to heart! its IMO.
In case anyone's curious, that last 100% combo was as follows: Activate Mugen, 6C xx 632146C xx 623A, 214B (1 hit) xx 41236C (1 hit) xx 632146C xx 623A, 214B (2 hits) xx 632146C xx 623A, 214B (2 hits) xx 41236C Kind of impractical since it requires a corner and 6C, but I'm sure there are plenty of variants off of other moves which could be useful. Mugen is somewhat of an underrated move at this point IMO, since he tends to die with 8 stars a lot anyway.
Wow...that combo against Tager. When I tried started playing this game I use to burst near the beginning of the round, I didn't know that it effected your defense. I'm surprised nothing like that ever happened.
soul calibur is ez pz, you don't need any canceling or anything to do those combos. these require cancels, meter if you have it, dashing, air combos, it's much more execution based than SCIV is.
TBH I didn't catch most of that. To clarify, I don't play BB. I watch gameplay videos since I'm planning on getting the game soon, and on maining Haku-men, which is why I'm so curious. So, ah... Are you saying that after the D Barrier Burst, Haku-men is open? Also, I figured that Barrier countering was probably hard to pull off, but I was thinking about high-level play where, I'm assuming, people can do that quite easily. Is the non-barrier penalty from Tager turtling?
If I remember correctly, Haku-men has 14k health, and Tager has 15k. Also, I don't get all this prediction stuff. Aren't people at high level play good enough that they can react in time? Or is Haku-men's drive's startup longer than a barrier bursts?
yea fighting games have the steepest learning curve of any genre. take a look at some soul calibur moves lists if u think memorizing these combos r tough.
After hours of practicing combo 3, I have confirmed that (at least against Ragna) it is possible to do it with or without a super jumb after 2C. The falling C is the hardest part of this combo since if it is done too soon you can't land into 2C fast enough and it it is late you don't attackt at all. Most of the time I cannot get 2C to land after falling C but that is the only trouble I have with Hakumen's combos. Guess I am too used to maining Rachel.
at first glance hakumen seems terrible b/c he cant really combo that well but in the hands of a pro he can be unstoppable since he can break projectiles, instant kill on barrier burst, and do a ton of damage w/ mugen
Because the other player can easily play run away during Mugen if they are half-way competent, including just running out your meter by using their own distortion drives, and when Mugen runs out, which it will, you'll be at 0 orbs and completely SOL. Hakumen is all about waiting for the right opportunity and capitalizing on it. He isn't served by a giant "OKAY NOW THE MOST REACTIVE CHARACTER IN THE GAME IS GOING TO TRY AND ATTACK YOU NOW MAN I WISH I HAD A DASH" sign. Mugen sucks.
These combos are great, but a few of them are extremely impractical. (at least in CS) a lot of those are evadable (again, in CS, I haven't played CT that much) and as far as I know his down light aerial attack got nerfed. I'd say Haku-men is an incredibly hard character to main, I've been trying to main him so I kind of have a first hand experience.. props to ya if you've mastered Haku-men, I find him the most hardest character to play :/
Hmm learning curves some fighting games were more of just mashing buttons and hoping you get lucky hell i was when tekken 3 came out and i played Eddi Gordo because all i had to do was mash buttons. SC is the same way on most part. I loved Killer Instinct that took some skill to learn unbreakable combos and infinite Juggles hehe
you dont have to super jump if you jump 2c after the uppercut then do the falling c then 2c on the ground
@keevre There shouldn't be anything keeping you from doing that. I always immediately switch to holding up right after I hit the two a's (though I like to hold down back while doing that combo so I don't accidentally get his sweep on the ground). Just mess with it without the intent of continuing the combo just to see if you can do it.
You can also jump cancel off his B attack\ if you need another example.
@snowman6251 Tager also had a negative penalty, making him take extra damage.
thanks for ripping this from the dvd. now i dont have to switch disks.
how much will it do if ur opponent isnt in negative penalty? proly not an instant kill huh?
@checkplus 2ms is actually 0.002.....
I know all that, but I tried to recreate the effect and it didn't deal nearly as much damage.
In this video it deals enough damage to kill Tager. When I did it it only dealt maybe 3/4.
how come he didnt finish up combo five like he did in combo 4?
mugen is quarter circle back x2 b. it slowly drains his magatama but all the moves that would normally require u to use magatama r completely free and cost nothing to use.
all of tager's health in one combo. Damn.
no it makes all his magatana moves cost nothing but the magatana drains over a period of time to zero you can think of it as a timer to your (infinity mode)
i dont quite understand
I can't do combo 4 :(
I can't get the timing right either at the Mid air C or the Down C.
Mugen is great, the problem with it however is that it has a crapload of startup and can't really be reliably setup unless its from a 6D or off a counter hit 6A. I'm still playing around with the potential of it though.
Dudes, is there any way to jump cancel in this game? I just start playing this game on the PC about three days ago and I make combos like the ones on the video but for instance at 0:22 he jumps at the same time he hits and I can't seem to do that. Any help?
Tager used his Burst AND got the cowardice warning, that makes you take alot of extra damage.
@Slayerx49 dash in>j.214C is really unpredictable but the timing takes practice and it costs 3 stars. Also the 1st hit of 214B makes the next hits stronger so cancel the 2nd hit with 214A for big combos. Finally you have his grab which you can follow up with 214A for combos. 623A can go through some moves. Finally, 6C counter hit can almost always follow up to 632146C for big, easy damage.
you don't have to remember all that. just learn 1 combo with your character that starts anywhere is easy to start (say it starts off a quick weak attack). practice that for 15 minutes and then go online and keep trying it. you'll fail for awhile and miss the timing, but keep trying. within 1 hour you'll have the motions memorized and you won't forget it, even if its still hard to do.
in a month, you'll have it perfect w/out trying. learn a new one each week. its easy!
omg that was awesome thanks this will awesomeness help me on my battle. ^_^
so mugen cuts the required magatama of his moves DOWN TO one or BY one?
when you use barrier burst, your defense is lowered, and after his slash special which can half way kill you w/o barrier burst if blade hit you, that can kill you
Well, I didn't know he had a negative penalty. The fact that it's a counter to a burst is part of what makes it seem overpowered, though.
his drive is instant. human reaction time is actually very long when one has to choose between choices. If I remember right, it's almost a half a second when more than one or two choices is involved. Prediction lets you lower the number of choices to as low as possible. that lets you bring your reaction time down. (if you can make the prediction that they will burst or they will not burst, that's when the .2 SECONDS comes in (.2 ms is .000002 sec, way too short)
@snowman6251 This is simply due to the fact that he had the negative warning for passive behaviour. Otherwise this would not have been possible.
That last combo is just plain dirty.
Negative Effect and your life bar at Danger will increase the damage.
so you mean to tell me having to wait to use special attacks is better than chaining like 3 or 4 at a time with NO COST? plus your other drives are free as well. how does that suck?
if you google it you'll find most of it, but the 1-9 Deirectionals are the most used it's ment to show where to move the stick or where to push on the D-pad
like so
789 (7 =Jump back 8= Neutral Jump 9 = jump To)
456 (4 = walk back/ block -5 = Stand -6 = Walk to )
123 (1 = Crouch back - 2 = Neutral Crouch - 3 = Crouch to )
it's makes tracking Combos and inputs in notes easier. Hoped this helps
Thanks for the explanation, I've been wondering about those numbers :3
I've practiced until my thumbs ache and I cannot get anything beyond the first two combos down.
Goddom.
Where can I look up fighting game lingo because I didn't understand any of that.
Can you make some new videos for Continnum Shift?
Ya. So why are his air combos a little difficult than all the other characters that can do air combos? :\
if someone barrier bursts you can counter with Hakumens D button which will do A LOT of dmg to your opponents health bar. If you've got 4 magatamas do the combo 6, very effective.
You just gotta get the timing right of when the person will barrier burst
@storm1OG
So we fight now?
yeah is combos are hard to pull off. i ment he is a great chatacter and very powerful next to iron tager
How does Combo 6 deal so much damage?
hakumen out of all of the characters give me the most trouble. he hits sooooooo hard but man he is a bad ass character to play
@kirbykevin702 i know dude fucking hakumen is so hard to main
i mean dont u get the feeling like hes so stiff and hindered?
no its tripled
and Combo 7 is the reason his specials cost something.
In my personal opinion, Professional Haku-men players are rare due to the limited combos he can pull off on opponents due to his limited ground movement his slower attacks and his short duration of counter moves he is given. A haku-men player has hard times against quick players like taokaka and bang which make him a bit more complicated to play and his bar required to do moves are consuming magmatamas which are consumed rather quickly in combos.
what about this?
[ 214214B, 63214C (both hits)> 214A (one hit)>236C>C, 8B+C, Falling B, Air 214C land and dash, 236C>C, 8B+C Falling B, Air 214C Land 632146C (don't hold) ]
It can easily be replaced by a counter assault with any other character. Hell Tager can just eat it up with a guard point. And quite frankly, predicting a burst and timing that D correctly is not even as easy as it looks.
Tager deserves to be punish, respects Hakumen.
@XINKAI he is faster than tager however (tho thats not very hard to achieve im guessing) his range with that sword is just stupid (C attack) plus it cuts projectiles. the counter attack is just as useful maybe even more useful than Bang's autogaurd drive and his distortions take off ridiculous amounts of health. good players with him are hell but if people take advantage of his slow attacks then he isnt too hard to beat even with low tiers like bang and tager.(well tager has trouble with C spam)
it makes all his DDs cost no magatama
mmm like 25%-35% less... maybe lower damage than that. Negative penalty is adds a huge amount of damage to combos. and remember this combo only insta-kills because hes in danger too, if you try this combo from any other attack(countering lets say a B) at best it would be a 5000 dmg combo or a lil less.
Whoa, that burst counter combo was pure gold!
5D takes time to become active, his other drives become active instantly, though.
@Slayerx49 To start, play defensively. Haku doesnt have very good mobility on tge ground and he's too obvious in the air. If you're playing CS you can keep people out with 4C. Once you start getting stars a great way to get in is dash in>j.214B. Theres a short time when you dash that your in the air but the timing takes practice. But it has invincibility, if they block they loose a primer, and it can Fatal Counter for HUGE damage.
that last combo...is ragna dead?
the damage is a joke, but the combo isn't. It's still a good chain, making his counter really powerful as long as you have the magatamas.
@storm1OG
UMAD BRO?
@Slayerx49 His counter isn't necassary but is beastly if you master it. It makes people second guess their descisions, opening the door for you to be more aggresive. His high/ low game is pretty decent too. 2B or 214B both have the potential to lead to big combos while 6B or dash in>j.214C make good overheads. 6A also shuts down a lot of airdash and jump in attempts.
How is combo 6 not game-breakingly OP? It's a 4-hit kill on the highest hitpoint character there is.
How do you time the super jump in combo 3? I cant get that down
@Kokatsusa Now on a friendlier note: You were saying that no one saw the "danger mode". I'm just saying, when one, "barrier bursts", they get in "danger mode"; so it is kind of obvious, its part of the combo. They're not exactly fooling anyone, it is the consequence for "bursting".
You correct me and 'visa-versa'. I am aware that this is more of an ass-'ier' note than a friendly one. BUT! Don't take it to heart! its IMO.
He had Negative penalty+Danger mode the damage was multiplied by like 4 lol
This makes it so much easier then having to watch all of it
combo 6 is a joke, he has to counter a barrier burst, and the oponent has to be in negative penalty
The timing for the 2nd mid air C is gotta be so precise, Im working on that part aswell for both combo's, practice and im sure you can hit it!
LOLWUT
You've obviously never heard of a character called Taokaka.
In case anyone's curious, that last 100% combo was as follows:
Activate Mugen, 6C xx 632146C xx 623A, 214B (1 hit) xx 41236C (1 hit) xx 632146C xx 623A, 214B (2 hits) xx 632146C xx 623A, 214B (2 hits) xx 41236C
Kind of impractical since it requires a corner and 6C, but I'm sure there are plenty of variants off of other moves which could be useful. Mugen is somewhat of an underrated move at this point IMO, since he tends to die with 8 stars a lot anyway.
holy shit combo 7 is a pain...but of course difficult to do in real battles...though i'd stick with the first two hits....ouch!
Wow...that combo against Tager. When I tried started playing this game I use to burst near the beginning of the round, I didn't know that it effected your defense. I'm surprised nothing like that ever happened.
soul calibur is ez pz, you don't need any canceling or anything to do those combos. these require cancels, meter if you have it, dashing, air combos, it's much more execution based than SCIV is.
In other words, this would never happen.
what? i'm pretty pro at soul calibur if i do say so myself, and these combos are way more intense.
TBH I didn't catch most of that. To clarify, I don't play BB. I watch gameplay videos since I'm planning on getting the game soon, and on maining Haku-men, which is why I'm so curious.
So, ah... Are you saying that after the D Barrier Burst, Haku-men is open?
Also, I figured that Barrier countering was probably hard to pull off, but I was thinking about high-level play where, I'm assuming, people can do that quite easily. Is the non-barrier penalty from Tager turtling?
If I remember correctly, Haku-men has 14k health, and Tager has 15k. Also, I don't get all this prediction stuff. Aren't people at high level play good enough that they can react in time? Or is Haku-men's drive's startup longer than a barrier bursts?
wow i didnt say anything but soul calibur has a ton of moves. i didnt say anything about skill or difficulty.
Er rather, a rapid cancel.
Really it's just a matter of practice and getting your excecution perfect.
yea fighting games have the steepest learning curve of any genre. take a look at some soul calibur moves lists if u think memorizing these combos r tough.
*the last 2 combos* O_O *goes to play blazblue against haku-men* FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
After hours of practicing combo 3, I have confirmed that (at least against Ragna) it is possible to do it with or without a super jumb after 2C. The falling C is the hardest part of this combo since if it is done too soon you can't land into 2C fast enough and it it is late you don't attackt at all. Most of the time I cannot get 2C to land after falling C but that is the only trouble I have with Hakumen's combos. Guess I am too used to maining Rachel.
@checkplus haha np, but it's really a damn short amount of time XD
@Slayerx49
never fuck with hakumen
but seriously try to memorize some enemies attacks and when they do it so you can counter them >))
dammit, I want to know 7
dang lol at tht 6th combo.
at first glance hakumen seems terrible b/c he cant really combo that well but in the hands of a pro he can be unstoppable since he can break projectiles, instant kill on barrier burst, and do a ton of damage w/ mugen
Start slow, work at it. Learn the pacing of the game. Then try to figure out a method after that.
Here's a super easy combo wich still does quite some damage(It's Hakumen Duh:P)
Jumpin C
Standing C
QCF C
Seems scrubby, but hey, it works.
Because the other player can easily play run away during Mugen if they are half-way competent, including just running out your meter by using their own distortion drives, and when Mugen runs out, which it will, you'll be at 0 orbs and completely SOL.
Hakumen is all about waiting for the right opportunity and capitalizing on it. He isn't served by a giant "OKAY NOW THE MOST REACTIVE CHARACTER IN THE GAME IS GOING TO TRY AND ATTACK YOU NOW MAN I WISH I HAD A DASH" sign. Mugen sucks.
@snake1143
... you know what, your right. That's a little embarasing. I'm a physics major...
Not really a BlazBlu fan, but Haku-men is my fav fighting game character of all time
so are u implying that hakumen is an ass thats gone bad? i really want to main him but cant get his combos down T_T
These combos are great, but a few of them are extremely impractical. (at least in CS) a lot of those are evadable (again, in CS, I haven't played CT that much) and as far as I know his down light aerial attack got nerfed. I'd say Haku-men is an incredibly hard character to main, I've been trying to main him so I kind of have a first hand experience.. props to ya if you've mastered Haku-men, I find him the most hardest character to play :/
hakumen is slow as fuck, but is know how to use him he can be pretty nasty
Hmm learning curves some fighting games were more of just mashing buttons and hoping you get lucky hell i was when tekken 3 came out and i played Eddi Gordo because all i had to do was mash buttons. SC is the same way on most part. I loved Killer Instinct that took some skill to learn unbreakable combos and infinite Juggles hehe
these are only base combos, essential to help linking better ones. i have better combos than this, but i wouldnt have done it without this vid.
@snowman6251 tager was in danger state that's why he died, i guess...
What's up, ASSfurnace!?
When are we going to play Blazblue?
LOL noone sees that when hes training on Tager, Tager is in DANGER mode. its flashing inside his health bar! lol gewdwahnthoh, u fooled us all!
this coming from a mediocre Hakumen player: no he isnt. Everyone can combo him if they're fast enough.
Sorry, I actually thought you were someone else that I know from another forum. I guess Blastfurnace is a common name.
@NegStarnite93 you didn't know that? i have done that with Yukikaze a lot, and it's freaking epic xD
I'd Don't mind both but I was really asking can you do that combo ( but this isn't SC extend, it's CT lol ) but I like how it go Negative votes lol :)
@matthewstras AHA naw man i just never really got to say that at all! besides UMAD is the best thing to say to make me lol (somethimes)
holy crap, how is one suppose to remember all that!!!, i would watch my bonus disk but i got to ship it off as it dont work.