@@Blink_Salt You can also get him stuck with one of the large bones between you and him. He'll run like a hamster on a treadmill and never make any progress towards you.
I like to think watch dog of the old lords was actually flameluker’s pet because in bloodborne it’s 18th century and demon souls about 15th century and the watchdog was a small puppy but he grew up and became a pain in the ass especially in defiled chalice
For anyone struggling on the flamelurker, he is weak to magic. I also suggest using the crescent falchion, it does bleed damage and magic damage in it as well.
Fr this was the only way that I was able to kill flame lurker his attacks were way too fast for me and half the time his attacks hurt me no matter what I did.
And old players too. This theme hypes me up so much that I can almost forget my PTSD of Flamelurker killing me 100 times while he is like one hit away XD
Just beat him last night. Honestly didn’t have many problems defeating him, I believe it took me three attempts. But damn, apart of me wishes I died more just so I could keep going back and hearing this incredible track.
I still haven’t beaten demon souls, but so far this is my favorite soundtrack from the game and my favorite boss from the game. Even though he pummeled me into oblivion more times than I can count
Meh... I disagree. The original track is intimidating but eerie and quiet to emphasize that it is a serious situation and you are facing a dangerous being. This is just... "epic" generic big monster music :/
@@garurumon1203 lol if anything that music is like that because FROM was on a budget. They didn’t have the luxury of a live orchestra. Just look at their later games like bloodborne where they use live orchestra and everyone praised the ost. And that game has the best atmosphere of any of their games
Gonna have to disagree, this sounds too "epic" and belongs more in Dark Souls. Demon's Souls was a lot quieter and fit the entire tone of the game better.
@@ReaperspearX Dark Souls and Demon Souls are the same fucking game thematically. Almost all the "souls" games sound like this, the only reason demon souls didnt is because they were on a budget and time crunch.
I played the original version of DeS in preparation for the Remake, and Flamelurker was my first hurdle. It took me 13 tries to beat him on the original, and now here in the remake, it only took me 5. He's such a fun boss, I absolutely love it.
I've played this game so many times that this music is making me salivate just thinking about playing the remake. And they removed those rib columns that made it easy to cheese him.
I'm trash at anythint dark souls, but I have to say, I love these games as a work of art, with all of their amazing lore and worldbuilding and of course, the breathtaking music. I swear, just getting into these games changed my life.
I've finally listened to both versions of Flamelurker and I have to say, I'm on the side of I like the remake's version more then the original. I've played and platinumed both the PS3 and PS5 versions and just like most of the remade boss osts
My view is that now we are fighting Flamelurker again, it's less of a fight for our lives and now an epic showdown between two powerful creatures: one, a human warrior and the other a flaming demon
people always go on about how this game is inferior to the original, so many "Soul vs Soulless" arguments but it's still a really good game. it might not be the best remake, but i never played the OG, and I still had a hell of a blast with this
@@thestrongestlivingcreatureI mean please what about you can sent item to storage even you overencumbered that they added in remake (not to mention you can sent to storage from inventory as well) in the original you have to left item alone and will disappear once you touch it
the old and the remake are both good i dont understand the hate towards the remake's osts in general ( btw the original composer of the original game listened to the remakes and he absolutely loved them )
@@theatheistbear3117 idk man the original was dull as hell, and just looped every thirty seconds. This version at least matches the intensity of the boss fight, unless you're using magic.
@@DeadGuyInTheGround I don’t understand how it’s dull. The looping isn’t an issue, because it’s well composed. Looping was used throughout history, and nobody is complaining about it. The intensity of the fight doesn’t match the Remake’s version. Flamelurker’s not a Bloodborne boss.
The original wasn't supposed to be epic. It was dark and depressing like facing a huge obstacle that you will think you might not make it. That's what flamelurker was about. He is the hardest boss in demons souls (unless your a magic user) so the original was so much better. This one is awesome but it's very dark souls 3ish. The original soundtrack helps demons souls stand out more.
@@jasondean2511 nah, I see it this way. For first time demon souls players the theme of the OG symbolizes despair and tragedy because of how hard the boss is. For demon souls vets who are playing the remake the flamelurker will be like an old friend who you missed and this time you know his move set and your familiar with him. So the theme is epic here.
Not sure how to feel about the complete tonal shift (from brooding and somber to Soulsborne-epic-choir)that they gave Flamelurker in the remake, but if nothing else, said tonal shift is executed flawlessly. I always get hype asf when 2:33 rolls around and they bring back that lil snippet of the old theme that always got stuck in my head
This whole game's soundtrack goes so hard, idc what those trolling clods have to say. It's just a shame I more often than not can't even hear it cuz of all the insane exagerrated sound effects... but hey, the sounds are cool too!
I love both the OG soundtrack and the new one sounds great on its own right. I just wished we were given an option to play the original OST over bosses and the new OST over bosses. So that everyone could be pleased.
I really feel like most of the new themes fit the respective bosses better with a couple exceptions, one of them being Astraea's theme. It does feel more fitting if you see it as Garl's theme rather than Astraea's since that's who you're fighting
I liked original flamelurker but thought it weird it sounded like a funeral while a giant hulking flamelurker was aggressively trying to beat your ass, while the remake feels better fitting for him quick tempo fast paced and matches his aggression
@@ignisinfernal1843 me and my brother were taking turns on the boss and he was struggling so much and I just beat him first try. I didn’t use any magic or soul arrows I just went at him and won.
@@hungryduck8043 Nice. It's definitely a playstyle thing. Not sure about you, but I tend to be very quick and aggressive instead of defensive when I play so maybe that helped me get through the fight more easily than others.
I just killed flamelurker and the song was so damn good, I dunno if I was supposed to kill him where I’m at but I’m a strength build at level 20 with a plus 3 battle axe. I don’t know where I’m supposed to be but I wondered into this man’s arena and my god that fight was so hard. I’m loving DeS right now
I salivate just with the though of someday manage to put my hands on a PS5, run to my house setup the damn thing, wait sometime to finish the install of Demons Souls and get lost in the world of Boletaria for countless months... again.
The fact that some people hate this version of his theme is confusing as fuck, like I understand that opinions exist but some of these people are literally calling it shit just because it doesn't sound like basic bitch stuff anymore
for real i don't understand how people don't get hyped listening to this?? just because they played demon's souls a whole decade ago they think they need to go "myeh myeh this isn't REAL demon's souls >:( ur not even true gamers >:(( listening to this means you're not allowed to play any other fromsoft games EVER"
No it's not. The original was depressing like fighting an obstacle that you might not make it. This one is very dark souls 3ish. It's awesome but the original soundtrack helps demons souls stand out from the series.
@@tragictwo1029 I mean, I guess what you mean, but I do disagree. The original ost kinda gave off that vibe that the power of a demon soul is anything except greatness. This ost however, compliments the raw power of the Flamelurker, a monk filled with an unquenchable rage. I like 'em both, but I just put that out there just cause why not.
@@jasondean2511 It's a desperate, disheartening, all-the-way-uphill fight where you might get your ass handed to you half a dozen times before you finally overcome, for sure. But that's not the same thing as a somber march to the hanging scaffold with nothing you can do about it. The new track version understands this.
I am so pleased at these soundtracks that are really giving the bass its due. I've hated Squeenix for their tinny remixes of tracks that minimize the bass sound.
It's definitely more suitable as a boss theme, but I honestly kind of prefer the original. The contrast between the weirdly melancholy, repetitive instrumentals and high difficulty of the boss created a pretty unique atmosphere that's sort of lost with this. Visually I kind of feel the same way, the original Flamelurker was the brightest and most eye catching thing in an otherwise burnt out, dark, and ashen room, whereas new Flamelurker meshes better with the environment thematically but this also kind of homogonizes everything into a fairly standard fantasy look of a fire demon. I dunno, I just feel like they wanted to give the Flamelurker and identity in the OG DeS and the only thing that really survived was the difficulty (which I can't even attest to, as I don't own a PS5)
I would agree on this. It's also kind of an early game boss for most, and this theme is some final villain shit. That being said, the music is fenominal, and I believe it creates an entirely new kind of Flamelurker experience that sure doesn't disappoint.
This is late but for those who are arguing about which ost is better, these two versions of the game as a whole have very different tones intended or not. Bluepoint's remake is more cinematic because that is Bluepoints style, while the Fromsoft original is more dark as that is their style back in that day. King of the Storm and Dragon God are more subtle in the tones, while Tower Knight and Flamelurker shows the strengths and weaknesses of both each version. At the end of the day it's like wondering if milk chocolate is better than dark chocolate, the same thing but with big enough changes to change the flavor. I personally prefer the more cinematic take from Bluepoint, but I can understand why people like the original's darker tone
Beat him first try, I done the gold coin glitch, I did NOT have the blueblood yet, let me say that was a fun fight. Don’t worry I lost to armor spider 3-4 times and died to Dragon God at least 5-6 times.
Also this song sounds the closest to the original I love the new choir added to it. The original Demon Souls did not have the budget to do choirs like the remake of demon souls did. Sony didn't give fromsoftware the budget they needed to finish the sixth Archstone another for boss fights would have been added if the sixth Archstone have been completed
@@theatheistbear3117 i don't agree, this one is dope. BUT the old one was unique indeed, something about it just makes it so haunting and awesome, i don't know but i love it
@@jooot_6850 Yes. With the exception of Storm King, none of the ost has been improved. The ost is good, but it really doesn’t hold a candle to the original ost.
Never played the original Demon Souls but I have watched gameplay of it. Call me a sucker for epic choirs and orchestras but damn do I love this theme. Maybe my favorite song in the game (so far, haven't quite beaten the game yet, I'm on 1-3 now)
Why the fuck is it so hard to play a new game. I need to go through black markets to find a PS5 that isn't over $1500. I just wanna play the remake to one of my favourite games of all time, man.
I did something similar with Gherman. Parries were obliterating his health pool before the music kicked in so I spent 2 minutes just dodging to hear his ost in game.
@@joeystarr1273 Lol what I had to do was wait for explosions or his leaps then punish with 2 hits and run, repeat, 3rd phase only his leap was the best to punish. It was like 17 tries and my build is pretty much the knight from the cover and intro because idk 🤣🤣 Vitality is something like 40 Endurance also around 40 Strength around 35 Dex around 13 That’s all I remember but I made a ton of progress after killing Flamelurker then
@@Hollowslayer23 Yeah NG+ Flamelurker is a big upgrade. Beat him first try in NG, but died a ton in NG+1 and +2. Generally it was his explosions that kept getting me because it was so weird dodging them and I'd usually take at least some damage from it. Definitely have gotten more into the rhythm over time, though, and beat him first try on +3.
I will never understand the people that say the old theme was better... like, not saying it was bad, but come ooon, are you even listening to this song?
its probably because it strays a little too far from the original. I love the OG demons souls OST, and though this music is so much better and amazingly produced, I also prefer the original sound...I'll bump it all end the end lol
because it lost its unsettling tone flamelurkers original theme isnt just tragic, its intimidating and primal; its not trying to sound cool like at all this just sounds like generic video game music
@@homieplus8492 The chords they’re singing are definitely unsettling imo. The mix between sweet sounding melodies and dissonance in the choir is really cool.
Simple sometimes is better. No need to have it be so complicated. You like Gwyn's theme? There's a reason why it's a meme, plin plin plon makes you cry. Same here, this is sounding bloodborne. The other ost was aesthetically fitting. A real artists doesn't just make decisions without thinking and that's why I think this ost is bad, they didn't understand why the composer used the instruments he did and why it worked
@@laserpoint3741 That criticism is poorly worded. The problem is not that it isn’t the original, but more that it is different for the sake of being different. The original compositions by Shunsuke Kida dripped with atmosphere, and aided in creating the oppressive melancholic atmosphere of the game. They took something away by making it more in line with Bloodborne or God Of War. This is because the original ost was minimalistic, while the Remake’s is not. It’s valid to criticize them not adhering to the original’s aesthetics and music, which made the game stand out among the later games. Also I would not call it a ‘Remake,’ because it still uses the code of the original game while changing everything else. It’s not build from the ground up. If anything, they should’ve changed the gameplay instead of keeping it’s rough edges. That’s a major issue, and the main complaint I have besides the ost.
@@theatheistbear3117 they changed the atmosphere of the game making it more modern, the new ost should fit the new atmosphere. And isn’t the original flamelurker theme in parts of this one as well
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can we thank this guy for surviving flamelurker for 11 minutes
LOOOL XDXDXDXDXD u right.
Thiefs ring, and stand in corner with the rib cage as his AI glitches
@@BL4D3RUNN3R0M3N thanks for cheese
@@Blink_Salt You can also get him stuck with one of the large bones between you and him. He'll run like a hamster on a treadmill and never make any progress towards you.
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Thanking Flamelurker for surviving 11 minutes XD
The original and the remake songs are both good
Finally, the perfect demons souls fan
However, the original flamelurker is much better IMO. He feels generic in the remake.
@@vergil1155 The original one sounds like something a derpy parody would use .
@@ra.n9482 the original fits the original game fine. The new ones just all add choirs to them.
No, remake is better
With this music, I don't know if I am fighting Laurence or Flamelurker or even Watchdog Of The Old Lords.... but damn this music is so good!
I wonder what each of them have in common
@@Bloodwing-zx9ri It's so obvious. They all have the letter L in their names.
@@amannamedsquid313 Yes
I like to think watch dog of the old lords was actually flameluker’s pet because in bloodborne it’s 18th century and demon souls about 15th century and the watchdog was a small puppy but he grew up and became a pain in the ass especially in defiled chalice
Or Old iron king
"Kicking ass and taking names never felt better"
- Flamelurker probably
Just by the music I can tell that this guy is going to kick my ass many times.
Invest in minor magic and get water veil!!
That’s Flamelurker for you. Either you beat him or you quit the game.
He's not too bad if you dodge to the side to avoid his explosive attacks. Also try not to block anything. He drains a huge amount of stamina.
@@DZCOSENTRY Are you from the future? The game is ‘t even out yet.
@@worawatsr9803 its a remake, he already played the old one
For anyone struggling on the flamelurker, he is weak to magic. I also suggest using the crescent falchion, it does bleed damage and magic damage in it as well.
Also Sticky white stuff is a very good resin to put your weapon
@@radhawk7773this sounds so wrong out of context
@@Epicboy099 hahaha yeah ikr.😂😂😂
Every Flamelurker is gangsta until soul arrow appears
Soul ray...
Crystal Skill Spear
Fr this was the only way that I was able to kill flame lurker his attacks were way too fast for me and half the time his attacks hurt me no matter what I did.
Pfft. Cower in your corner, mage!
Dragon Bone Smasher.
Ugraded Demonbrandt…
2:30 YES
echos of elder song
The original theme actually starts from 0:43 too
That part makes me rock solid every fucking time. So so so good
This OST is going to elevate this boss for many new DeS players
And old players too. This theme hypes me up so much that I can almost forget my PTSD of Flamelurker killing me 100 times while he is like one hit away XD
Just beat him last night. Honestly didn’t have many problems defeating him, I believe it took me three attempts. But damn, apart of me wishes I died more just so I could keep going back and hearing this incredible track.
Damn straight
Felt incredibly disappointed by this version.
@@theatheistbear3117 this fits much better than the original one
I still haven’t beaten demon souls, but so far this is my favorite soundtrack from the game and my favorite boss from the game. Even though he pummeled me into oblivion more times than I can count
yokai watch fan? in demons souls comments? me too LOL
Some of the new tracks have a heavy Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 vibe.....I love it
It's like someone remixed a DS and BB soundtrack together
It's fucking brilliant
I mean the main villain is called the Old One, just saying...
Sounds more like Dark Souls 3
@@RealFabbrik and Bloodborne together
Mixing Twin Princes and Lady Maria
This theme actually sounds like what I'd expect from an exploding hulk demon. I liked the original but this just fits better IMO.
Meh... I disagree.
The original track is intimidating but eerie and quiet to emphasize that it is a serious situation and you are facing a dangerous being.
This is just... "epic" generic big monster music :/
@@garurumon1203 lol if anything that music is like that because FROM was on a budget. They didn’t have the luxury of a live orchestra. Just look at their later games like bloodborne where they use live orchestra and everyone praised the ost. And that game has the best atmosphere of any of their games
Gonna have to disagree, this sounds too "epic" and belongs more in Dark Souls. Demon's Souls was a lot quieter and fit the entire tone of the game better.
@@garurumon1203 its a demon born from a guy that punched dragons to death why in the ever loving fuck should it be a quiet funeral march
@@ReaperspearX Dark Souls and Demon Souls are the same fucking game thematically. Almost all the "souls" games sound like this, the only reason demon souls didnt is because they were on a budget and time crunch.
I played the original version of DeS in preparation for the Remake, and Flamelurker was my first hurdle. It took me 13 tries to beat him on the original, and now here in the remake, it only took me 5. He's such a fun boss, I absolutely love it.
I've played this game so many times that this music is making me salivate just thinking about playing the remake. And they removed those rib columns that made it easy to cheese him.
Oh no, his ost is hot
Literally
I'm trash at anythint dark souls, but I have to say, I love these games as a work of art, with all of their amazing lore and worldbuilding and of course, the breathtaking music. I swear, just getting into these games changed my life.
I've finally listened to both versions of Flamelurker and I have to say, I'm on the side of I like the remake's version more then the original. I've played and platinumed both the PS3 and PS5 versions and just like most of the remade boss osts
that moment when you mix the twin princes's and lady maria's themes together
There are sprinkles of Ludwig, the Accursed in there too
@@jooot_6850 and Slave Knight Gael as well as Sir Alonne
My view is that now we are fighting Flamelurker again, it's less of a fight for our lives and now an epic showdown between two powerful creatures: one, a human warrior and the other a flaming demon
Favourite OST and boss of the game. Just so good
people always go on about how this game is inferior to the original, so many "Soul vs Soulless" arguments
but it's still a really good game. it might not be the best remake, but i never played the OG, and I still had a hell of a blast with this
A DeS with this game’s graphics and the original’s everything else would be perfect
@@thestrongestlivingcreatureI mean please what about you can sent item to storage even you overencumbered that they added in remake (not to mention you can sent to storage from inventory as well) in the original you have to left item alone and will disappear once you touch it
Incredible piece.
So hyped for this game!
the old and the remake are both good i dont understand the hate towards the remake's osts in general
( btw the original composer of the original game listened to the remakes and he absolutely loved them )
Flamelurker looked cool before,but the remake, and this song,make it truly seem like you're up against the Devil
Oh, I know what track I'm listening to when I go to the gym today.
One of the songs which i think the Remake really improved on.
Hard disagreement there.
@@theatheistbear3117 obvious troll is obvious.
@@DeadGuyInTheGround I’m not trolling. The original theme just fitted more.
@@theatheistbear3117 idk man the original was dull as hell, and just looped every thirty seconds. This version at least matches the intensity of the boss fight, unless you're using magic.
@@DeadGuyInTheGround I don’t understand how it’s dull. The looping isn’t an issue, because it’s well composed. Looping was used throughout history, and nobody is complaining about it.
The intensity of the fight doesn’t match the Remake’s version. Flamelurker’s not a Bloodborne boss.
Freaking amazing ❤️❤️❤️
Holy shit man this made me ball me eyes out
Oh i love this type of music. Its tragic but epic too
The original wasn't supposed to be epic. It was dark and depressing like facing a huge obstacle that you will think you might not make it. That's what flamelurker was about. He is the hardest boss in demons souls (unless your a magic user) so the original was so much better. This one is awesome but it's very dark souls 3ish. The original soundtrack helps demons souls stand out more.
@@jasondean2511 nah, I see it this way. For first time demon souls players the theme of the OG symbolizes despair and tragedy because of how hard the boss is. For demon souls vets who are playing the remake the flamelurker will be like an old friend who you missed and this time you know his move set and your familiar with him. So the theme is epic here.
@@kyzersoze8408 fair point but the original is still stands out.
@@jasondean2511 i do think the new one fits the agressive nature of the flamelurker more tho
@@jasondean2511 Lol the original theme was boring as hell. You can put babies to sleep with that theme. 😂
I didn't even get to hear this, Flamelurker was always punching me
8/10 bossfight, very good and fun
Phenomenal remake
Formidable ! Merci beaucoup, j'attendais que ça !! 😍
+1 sub
And we're going to die again.
Best OST so far 😎
I LOVE THAT PART AT 1:47 !!!! 🤩🤩🤩
My favorite part
I personally really like 2:31
I’ll lose intentionally to this boss just to hear the music again
Yeah, you will lose "intentionally"
Me vs slave knight Gael
You don’t need to intentionally do it, flamelurker will make sure you hear it again…
I actually beat him on my first try solo. I went back and helped others as a summon immediately afterwards
And I’m a melee fighter. I have the fight on my channel
2:30 should be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer.
I love that I can hear the Lady Maria and Twin Princes inspiration in this
Not sure how to feel about the complete tonal shift (from brooding and somber to Soulsborne-epic-choir)that they gave Flamelurker in the remake, but if nothing else, said tonal shift is executed flawlessly.
I always get hype asf when 2:33 rolls around and they bring back that lil snippet of the old theme that always got stuck in my head
Best theme in the whole game. It really feels epic when you enter the boss room, and it makes the whole fight so awesome!
0:17 ¡¡¡Paaaarrrrssleyy fooorrrr Meeee!!!
¡¡¡Paaaarrrrssleyy fooorrrr Theeeemmmm!!!
I LOVE THAT PART :D
Oh my God, indeed.
mmm myes parsley
This whole game's soundtrack goes so hard, idc what those trolling clods have to say. It's just a shame I more often than not can't even hear it cuz of all the insane exagerrated sound effects... but hey, the sounds are cool too!
This sounds so epic!! I want to play the game but i dont want to buy a ps5 only for this game
Hopefully we can find lots of other great titles on this generation of consoles
Am I the only one who's kind of pretending I'm a Maestro conducting this music? Sorry if I weird anyone out.
Honestly, this is anybody when they are hearing epic music.
I love both the OG soundtrack and the new one sounds great on its own right. I just wished we were given an option to play the original OST over bosses and the new OST over bosses. So that everyone could be pleased.
I really feel like most of the new themes fit the respective bosses better with a couple exceptions, one of them being Astraea's theme. It does feel more fitting if you see it as Garl's theme rather than Astraea's since that's who you're fighting
I liked original flamelurker but thought it weird it sounded like a funeral while a giant hulking flamelurker was aggressively trying to beat your ass, while the remake feels better fitting for him quick tempo fast paced and matches his aggression
@@jacobsnyder7771 Not really. It’s supposed to sound like a dirge, because it’s one. Yours specifically.
Cheesing the boss with poison mist for 20 mins to this music was epic
Holy shit and he wasn't even the (official) final boss of the area. What a fucking theme.
new players stumbling a bit too early upon this dude
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good luck hehehehe...
He is like the dark beast lol.
I beat him first try lmao
@@hungryduck8043 Same actually lol. Idk if it was just my playstyle, my build, or what, but he was one of the easiest bosses for me.
@@ignisinfernal1843 me and my brother were taking turns on the boss and he was struggling so much and I just beat him first try. I didn’t use any magic or soul arrows I just went at him and won.
@@hungryduck8043 Nice. It's definitely a playstyle thing. Not sure about you, but I tend to be very quick and aggressive instead of defensive when I play so maybe that helped me get through the fight more easily than others.
Hardest/coolest boss in the game. The only one I felt was on the same level of difficulty as other soulsborne bosses.
I closed my PS5 after beating this boss because I needed to hear the theme song again.
I just killed flamelurker and the song was so damn good, I dunno if I was supposed to kill him where I’m at but I’m a strength build at level 20 with a plus 3 battle axe. I don’t know where I’m supposed to be but I wondered into this man’s arena and my god that fight was so hard. I’m loving DeS right now
I salivate just with the though of someday manage to put my hands on a PS5, run to my house setup the damn thing, wait sometime to finish the install of Demons Souls and get lost in the world of Boletaria for countless months... again.
The fact that some people hate this version of his theme is confusing as fuck, like I understand that opinions exist but some of these people are literally calling it shit just because it doesn't sound like basic bitch stuff anymore
for real i don't understand how people don't get hyped listening to this?? just because they played demon's souls a whole decade ago they think they need to go "myeh myeh this isn't REAL demon's souls >:( ur not even true gamers >:(( listening to this means you're not allowed to play any other fromsoft games EVER"
@@sgtpowers Yeah, some people are just ungrateful little shits who cry over a single pixel being different
While don’t get me wrong I love the OG ost, flamelurkers score on the ps3 was suited for putting me to sleep but the battle itself was 👹
So yeah the remake OST for him is well more suited
No it's not. The original was depressing like fighting an obstacle that you might not make it. This one is very dark souls 3ish. It's awesome but the original soundtrack helps demons souls stand out from the series.
@@jasondean2511 no, the original is boring and make me sleep
@@tragictwo1029 I mean, I guess what you mean, but I do disagree. The original ost kinda gave off that vibe that the power of a demon soul is anything except greatness.
This ost however, compliments the raw power of the Flamelurker, a monk filled with an unquenchable rage.
I like 'em both, but I just put that out there just cause why not.
@@jasondean2511 It's a desperate, disheartening, all-the-way-uphill fight where you might get your ass handed to you half a dozen times before you finally overcome, for sure. But that's not the same thing as a somber march to the hanging scaffold with nothing you can do about it.
The new track version understands this.
I love the tragic vibe of this. Fits the lore of this bastard.
I am so pleased at these soundtracks that are really giving the bass its due. I've hated Squeenix for their tinny remixes of tracks that minimize the bass sound.
It's definitely more suitable as a boss theme, but I honestly kind of prefer the original. The contrast between the weirdly melancholy, repetitive instrumentals and high difficulty of the boss created a pretty unique atmosphere that's sort of lost with this. Visually I kind of feel the same way, the original Flamelurker was the brightest and most eye catching thing in an otherwise burnt out, dark, and ashen room, whereas new Flamelurker meshes better with the environment thematically but this also kind of homogonizes everything into a fairly standard fantasy look of a fire demon. I dunno, I just feel like they wanted to give the Flamelurker and identity in the OG DeS and the only thing that really survived was the difficulty (which I can't even attest to, as I don't own a PS5)
I would agree on this. It's also kind of an early game boss for most, and this theme is some final villain shit. That being said, the music is fenominal, and I believe it creates an entirely new kind of Flamelurker experience that sure doesn't disappoint.
This is late but for those who are arguing about which ost is better, these two versions of the game as a whole have very different tones intended or not. Bluepoint's remake is more cinematic because that is Bluepoints style, while the Fromsoft original is more dark as that is their style back in that day. King of the Storm and Dragon God are more subtle in the tones, while Tower Knight and Flamelurker shows the strengths and weaknesses of both each version. At the end of the day it's like wondering if milk chocolate is better than dark chocolate, the same thing but with big enough changes to change the flavor.
I personally prefer the more cinematic take from Bluepoint, but I can understand why people like the original's darker tone
I have chills just to hear it.
Whao! This is just too epic!!
Cant wait to meet the boss
Ah yes, the boss that makes you realize you're in the game for the long haul.
This song is really growing on me now. I need to pick up this game, then.
I would pay a high price to watch this play live
That thumb nail makes him look like a archvile from Doom eternal
Beat him first try, I done the gold coin glitch, I did NOT have the blueblood yet, let me say that was a fun fight.
Don’t worry I lost to armor spider 3-4 times and died to Dragon God at least 5-6 times.
Tragicamente épico... que som maravilhoso!
1:21-1:44 reminds me of Ludwig Phase 1 somehow
it's very similar
DUDE LIKE A SECOND AGO THOUGHT THE SAME THING
ptsd kicks in
@@acebelen8818 Ah, you were at my side all along...
My guiding moonlight
I can't wait to play.... On RUclips.....
PS5= 400$
Demons Souls= 80$
Total:480$
@@espartano3018 + monitor.
@@espartano3018 Quite expensive if you don't use dollars or Euro everyday.
hah... the wonderful world were PS exclusives exist
@@espartano3018 that’s if you get the digital version. The disk version is 500$, plus tax on the ps5 which is roughly 40$ plus demon souls
Total: 630$
I haven’t even played the game and I can tell this is better than the original, take off your nostalgia glasses
Haven’t played the original but I prefer the original’s ost. Nostalgia my ass.
@@theatheistbear3117 this is so much better😤
@@jakhin.6238 It’s fine if you prefer it, but I like the original more.
@@theatheistbear3117 ah that’s cool
Also this song sounds the closest to the original I love the new choir added to it. The original Demon Souls did not have the budget to do choirs like the remake of demon souls did. Sony didn't give fromsoftware the budget they needed to finish the sixth Archstone another for boss fights would have been added if the sixth Archstone have been completed
I keep saying, we might get dlc considering every souls games has it. And what else other than that archstone
This boss will literally chase you to the ends of the earth to throw nuclear fire fist explosions
Am i the only one thinking this sounds weirdly like Alex Roe. 🤔
Definitely gives off that vibe, ngl.
I like it.
Same dude I was just thinking that 🤔
All this talk about Alex Roe makes me wonder...who the hell he is.
Go check out his channel he has really good dark souls and blood borne inspired albums on their
@@Ali_Al_Saachez dude, i listen to him all the time. That's why i'm hearing the similarities.
One of the few tracks that actually were nicelly remaked
Both are good
Boi everytime I listening to this song I'm getting Goosebumps
Just hearing this i just know this boss is going to be a difficult boss that will take me hours to beat.
I've just started playing Dark Souls....my ass is gonna get kicked in Demon's Souls isn't it...
Love this theme a lot better than the old one, it do be epic.
It lost he unique feeling honestly. The fight is incredibly generic and flat out boring now.
@@theatheistbear3117 L after L
@@darkshat3077 Yes the Remake really sucks.
@@theatheistbear3117 i don't agree, this one is dope. BUT the old one was unique indeed, something about it just makes it so haunting and awesome, i don't know but i love it
Epic
Old Iron King: Exist
Flamelurker: Hold my lava
flamelurker is more honorable than iron king and old demon king and twin demon princess and literally every demon of izalith in ds1
I see they've drastically improved the soundtrack
I would disagree with that statement.
@@theatheistbear3117 No
@@jooot_6850 Yes. With the exception of Storm King, none of the ost has been improved. The ost is good, but it really doesn’t hold a candle to the original ost.
@@theatheistbear3117 Respectfully, I disagree for most soundtracks except for a few like Maiden Astrea
@@jooot_6850 I agree
Never played the original Demon Souls but I have watched gameplay of it. Call me a sucker for epic choirs and orchestras but damn do I love this theme. Maybe my favorite song in the game (so far, haven't quite beaten the game yet, I'm on 1-3 now)
I'm going to die so many times on this boss
Why the fuck is it so hard to play a new game. I need to go through black markets to find a PS5 that isn't over $1500. I just wanna play the remake to one of my favourite games of all time, man.
One word: scalpers
the original "giant flaming monstrosity"
What a track masterpiece
this music is fire
I just had the most intense shit while listening to this.
Man this battle got my blood pumping lol
My short sword combined with sticky material will defeat him again. And this Theme will be my companion on the epic fight.
It's okay, you can say "sticky white stuff".
@@magicalhermitcrab5912 I think it doesen't matter. You know what I meaning :)
Im gonna pull a Gael. Almost beat him but purposely die to hear the music again
I did the same with Ludwig
I did something similar with Gherman. Parries were obliterating his health pool before the music kicked in so I spent 2 minutes just dodging to hear his ost in game.
@@Red-nl4lk from software knows how to make great bossthemes
While I do like the original theme more, I feel this version fits better for this boss.
The best boss and music in the game
never played the ps3 version, but when i saw the flamelurker and this ost came on i knew this game was going to be fire.
I get to hear this a lot on NG+ right now because he is really hard, still haven’t killed him
I beat him and a little bit of challenge on NG+1 but I was using a magic build 🤣 Magic’s busted
@@joeystarr1273 Lol what I had to do was wait for explosions or his leaps then punish with 2 hits and run, repeat, 3rd phase only his leap was the best to punish. It was like 17 tries and my build is pretty much the knight from the cover and intro because idk 🤣🤣
Vitality is something like 40
Endurance also around 40
Strength around 35
Dex around 13
That’s all I remember but I made a ton of progress after killing Flamelurker then
@@Hollowslayer23 Yeah NG+ Flamelurker is a big upgrade. Beat him first try in NG, but died a ton in NG+1 and +2. Generally it was his explosions that kept getting me because it was so weird dodging them and I'd usually take at least some damage from it. Definitely have gotten more into the rhythm over time, though, and beat him first try on +3.
I got him first time on ng+
@@binky8843 cool
I will never understand the people that say the old theme was better... like, not saying it was bad, but come ooon, are you even listening to this song?
its probably because it strays a little too far from the original. I love the OG demons souls OST, and though this music is so much better and amazingly produced, I also prefer the original sound...I'll bump it all end the end lol
because it lost its unsettling tone
flamelurkers original theme isnt just tragic, its intimidating and primal; its not trying to sound cool like at all
this just sounds like generic video game music
@@homieplus8492 The chords they’re singing are definitely unsettling imo. The mix between sweet sounding melodies and dissonance in the choir is really cool.
Simple sometimes is better. No need to have it be so complicated. You like Gwyn's theme? There's a reason why it's a meme, plin plin plon makes you cry. Same here, this is sounding bloodborne. The other ost was aesthetically fitting. A real artists doesn't just make decisions without thinking and that's why I think this ost is bad, they didn't understand why the composer used the instruments he did and why it worked
@@homieplus8492 quit the nonsence. Original sucks. It is way too dull and u here the same thibg repeating over and over again.
im still recovering from how bright his boss room is
Fuck all those stupid "Remake VS Original" comments. They are both great and awesome in each own ways
Yea I agree, people that complain that it’s not like the original confuse me, after sll the game has remake in the title
@@laserpoint3741 That’s not really what people have criticism of.
@@theatheistbear3117 really? I’ve seen multiple comments crying about how it’s no like the original and it doesn’t fit the original demon souls.
@@laserpoint3741 That criticism is poorly worded. The problem is not that it isn’t the original, but more that it is different for the sake of being different.
The original compositions by Shunsuke Kida dripped with atmosphere, and aided in creating the oppressive melancholic atmosphere of the game. They took something away by making it more in line with Bloodborne or God Of War. This is because the original ost was minimalistic, while the Remake’s is not. It’s valid to criticize them not adhering to the original’s aesthetics and music, which made the game stand out among the later games.
Also I would not call it a ‘Remake,’ because it still uses the code of the original game while changing everything else. It’s not build from the ground up. If anything, they should’ve changed the gameplay instead of keeping it’s rough edges. That’s a major issue, and the main complaint I have besides the ost.
@@theatheistbear3117 they changed the atmosphere of the game making it more modern, the new ost should fit the new atmosphere. And isn’t the original flamelurker theme in parts of this one as well