I mean it could be argued that the MTLB as an all class vehicle has the most amount of armor for infantry units who drive themselves instead of seating as passengers.
@Antonemann BMD-2 in my opinion is actually good because unlike BTR-82A, the gun is more accurate for longer ranges and has 3 ATGM's, for a tier 1 tank, it's better than BMP-2 since BMP-2 while amphibious, requires you to be commander to use the ATGM whereas ATGM and auto-cannon are both useable as gunner in BMD-2.
Here is some experience of some tanks I played (newest update ofc) CATTB: Fatty M1A1 with the jet engine taken out for a diésel one, yet it gives more ammo and guess what? ALL THE AMMO I SON BLOWOUTS, yet it suffers that doesnt have a MG to kill nearby infantry but the 140mm gives a little bit of higher tier(except its tier 6 ingame) T84 Oplot-M: very good tank that can be on both sides and has a great side armor and good turret traverse, yet it suffers that the cannon APFSDS only has like 480mm of pen and the APS addon cost 1K for it( at that point get the M1A2 or the 140mm leo, also it suffers from carrousel autoloader) T84-120 Yatagan: very good tank also, both sides, good pen for his cannon, bustle ammo rack with blowouts and autoloader and good speed( yet it kinda lacks some side armor and you can kill it by shooting the hull ammo rack or destroying the Blowout door then the ammo, this also applies to the M1s, leos and pretty much every tank with blowouts) Object 195: literally a budget T14, had a 30mm coax, 152mm cannon, APS that can cover angainst point blank range or 20m away from it, yet the downsides are the lack of speed and the tier its on, 60 kmh while 4 reverse and tier 6? Just try to get T14 or use T90M at that point Object 640: the Black Eagle is a very good tank for top tier battles with the bustle autoloader, APS that cover the front and sides with very good armor, lacks a MG tho Leo 140mm: for a tank that is at the same tier of the M1A2 it could be better, almost 1K with AP and with autoloader, yet it lacks alot of armor since you can kill it frontally The chinese Wall-E Bradley: just very good to deal with infantry and vehicles at the same time, F&F missiles at tier 2 while having 4 lf them, 20 ATGMs with 200mm of pen(could be better) and 30mm with HE-VT, pretty good but lacks armor Sincé it uses the chasis of a T54 ZTZ99A: just an upgraded ZTZ96A, same problems that has but with better armor and APS Cheonma-2( NK Abrams): whoever came the idea of giving hull ammorack should die, that thing is very good yet the hull ammo at the front kills it BMP-1M: just a BMP-2 with the BTR-82A turret strapped with APFSDS Leclerc: funni frenchy boi with autoloader Merkava MK4M: pretty good for transporting infantry while being a MBT, good APS and cannon, yet the downside I see is the hull ammorack LAV-AT: remember that M113 with ATGM turret? Welp they strapped it on a LAV, Perfect for flanking with it or using the turret less ability behind a hill M1128 Stryker: good vehicle yet the turret ammorack is a big downside while also having no armor(its just a M1126 with a turret for tank hunting on top) BMD-4M: good for an ATGM Carrier that can defender hitself, it can also be dropped from the air(armor is thick as a paper) T80U-T80UM: eh quite dont see the diference, only the cannon and armor M1127 ASG: just use when going solo infantry, its useless for everything else Rosomak: funni wheeled speedy boi with 30mm and F&F missiles The list is going the be expanded as we get more vehicles to play or I remember the others I bought. Overral the tier list needs some changes but just gotta say that you can ammorack M1s and Leos by the turret ammorack, destroy the Blowout door and then get the ammo and boom
I would change a lot about the tier list, but I have a squad of actual, and I quote, "loser comp mtc virgins for life" that can reliably get 80+ kills a match, so I guess my opinion would be skewed and biased. (for example, tier six is hard to get at all for average crews, but for me and my comp losers we can get tier six 6ish minutes after the game starts)
@Antoneboii ı am just Jokeing but let u know same times playing solo is better last time I play do 16k point solo soo ( maybe 8 years of war thunder experience Helping to)
As an infantry main that usually goes solo, seeing the wiesel 1A2 and the JLTV in that low of a tier hurt my soul, them being a fast all-class vehicle is great for me, their armament is also good, especially with the TOW 2A/B they have I love going into unexpected positions and ambushing MBT's with the TOW 2A/B, and i can just hop off and use my infantry guns to get rid of any enemies that are close by
Maybe, weisels where really fun to play with, now other people have already trashed me for putting JTAC at E but literally the only thing that happened when I played was getting absolutely annihilated.
The Stryker in f tier on eagle federation actually makes a pretty decent javelin carrier, it's underrated tbh Same with the jvlt, the auto canon is more so and anti air since it gets proxy rounds which even a 'tarded newborn can use and the javelin is just "hold V on any target no matter the elevation or armour he dead" launcher, not to mention you can use it as any class.
Mtlb actually a good option for fish state, because you could mount anything on it (122mm go kaboom) and for its cost customization it is a decent vehicle in my opinion
If i were you, id move around some tanks in your eagle list like the Type 89, M2 Barfley (yes barf like vomit) since the barfley all depends on your loadout with it, if its a loaded one its pretty solid, and some others but dont take it personal, great list good job.
To be honest I like your opinion because all these tanks do deserves the tier they gotten. But in my opinion I think m1a1 Abrams should be a bit higher because when it comes to survivability and securing safety from flanks like rpg it’s good because you won’t explode if you always face your turret. Just don’t expose your side turret because that’s where the ammo rack is on the tank. The blowout panel does help if the enemy tank mistakenly did not hit the panel but the ammo rack, you do have a chance to retreat with smoke. Plus its mobility is decent, good reverse speed which is very important when it comes to retreating. M1a1 Abrams in my experience using it. Deserves like a B tier because you have a blowout panel the ammo is located at the turret not all over the tank which gives you a surviving chance and not exposed your ammo too easily like the Russian tanks, blowout panel which Gives you better survivability, good mobility with good reverse speed and decent forward speed, a decent gun which is good enough to last you against tier 3 or 4 Russian tanks. This is my opinion about the M1A1 Abram’s because it feels like it’s underrated from its tier and should be higher because all these stuff I discussed.
Some vehicles like apc MTLB meant to transport troops sooo it depends on how many people do u wanna play with, and ifv like bradley also meant to be transporting troops with more survivability
JTAC "not possible to take out tanks with it" ever tried using javelin or the M1126 with javelin doing TOP down attacks from far ranges while the bmp2m only having 4 atmg
Trust me the type 87 with the better ammo upgrade is actually DESTRUCTIVE like I had a rly braindead driver (it was his first time playing and he didn't even do the tutorial) and we still managed to take out mbts infantry and support vehicles PS:in my opinion I think you can do as much kills as you want as long as you have a locked in teammate, I remember on one of my first matches in this game I was with a random on a Bradley and we just absolutely terrified the serv but when I'm with my braindead friends we barely get shit
I once charged an enemtly line as a T-90M gunner. My friend was driving. I killed two tanks, some infantry, maybe some more. Also, an AT gun. Then we got overrun. It was fun 👍
M1A1 should be higher, armor gives stellar performance especially with some of the addons, and me and a friend (yes 2 people) successfully destroyed hordes of enemy tanks with the powerful gun while camping in a VERY flankable spot
Interesting! I can agree that the m1a1 could deserve B tier next to the challenger mostly because of it being in tier 2. And not dealing with bullshit Hawk cookouts is also a plus😅
not to mention the Tunguska isn't a MBT, it isnt meant for direct frontline combat, its to shoot down aircraft like the helicopters in the game, it deos have atgms that can kill tanks, but they are mainly used for aircraft. For the Strela, it's also a SPAA. It's "ATGM's" aren't really ATGM's, they are ground to air missiles made to also destroy helicopters, it has bad armor so don't use it against enemy eagle MBT's.
LAV Should be in S Tier, very good against Light armored vehicle and rushers, it has APFDS Upgrade meaning it can pen most vehicles like the T-series MBT and all IFVS in the Hawk team, it can airdrop which I utilize it on killing anti air and killing taking off aircraft and infantry, very underrated vehicles only good if you know how to play it, same with tankettes, the regular Tankette is very good, it can pen all IFVS and disable some MBT's, it's very good against infantry and its a rat tank, whilst the ATGM Tankette is also very good tank, which you can basically airdorp next to enemy spawn, camp in bush and kill almost all MBT's no matter armor with the top attack ATGM armor is shit but just get good lol Joint Light Tacitcal vehicle is good for anti infantry, also has an upgrade where you could put an anti tank javelin on top of it meaning it can take out tanks, this vehicle can pen all infantry, also surprisingly well armored and most IFVS have a hard time penning it so do machine guns and rockets (good against fish) the Bradley you definitely underrated that one, from the clips you were only using the original bradley, trust me this vehicle has so many upgrades (idk if you found out about upgrades) the Bradley has a shit ton of upgrades including Drone jammers ANTI TANK ERA, top attack ATGM, APFDS Rounds, Rural protection, APS, TROPHY System, etc from the upgrades but tbh yeah the bradley sucks without the upgrades with the APCR only, really this tank can pen anything you just need skill with it but decent rating ig in your opinion since you probably don't play this game as much as me Abrams X solid rating that thing is shit and not worth it STRF doesn't deserve S tier, has shit ammo capacity, only good for light armored vehicles and can't pen most MBT's without reloading like 30 times Wait till you unlock all the tanks (Like me) Vehicles like the Hi-mag, apache, lil bird, and definitely the MLR (Ballistic missile capable artillery) all deserve S tier, Hi-mags my favorite, can pen almost all MBT's, good anti air to. I recommend you remake the list with all the ingame vehicles you can buy with ingame money
1 you do not know why specialised vechicles exist, SPAA is strictly for killing helis (and aircraft irl), 2 ARTILLERY HAS IT'S ROLE, the fact that you don't enjoy playing it doesn't mean it's bad, same with IFV, you just don't know how to use vechicles in their desired roles.
You should be ranking them on how well they do in their jobs and not on their armor + gun pen. Ex: if you ranked the artillery and anti air with how well they did their jobs, there rankings would go significantly higher, you could also use the cars and APCS as an example with their main purpose being transport which some of them do really good at. The tanks are fine how they are rated but the IFVS and other things that have more unique play styles and tactics to use them should be significantly higher
Hey but there are more tanks missing in Hawk, still the Premium and the tanks in the store, also in Terminator it is very easy to kill, also the Burlak is a joke, also how did you not put Al Tunguska higher up, it's a very good anti-aircraft and deserves to be in Tier B, but well I agree with the rest
JGHSFYISFGK\SCGHDFGAWYIDGAYIWEGF THE M1126 IS CARUTUWLLY GOOD BCSUZ I PLAYEDT IT USIN INFANTRY AND IT TANKED A 125MM RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH (its genuenly good)
the issues you are having with majority of the F and D Hawk vehicles is because you aren't using them correctly. The BMD-2 s meant to be airdropped and once you airdrop behind enemy lines, it starts to kick butt, for the BM-21 Grad rocket artillery, you need to use it far from enemy action because that is what artillery is for, not direct engagement. The BMP-3 isn't even that bad but I don't use it often. It also depends who you are going up against whether its a strongly armored tank or a tryhard. For the MT-LB, you are not meant to go direct engagement either because it's meant to drop off troops 💀
Challenger 2 has no fucking armor and is trash only good vs C4 is trash without dorchester or megatron and with any of these challenger still gets cooked the fuck up easily by almost all APFSDS
You need to learn how to use the mtk4 calculator, and then you will understand the meaning of artelleria. (showed 2s43, but put 2s7 in the lower range)
This guy really tried to frontline in an APC. Dude. No wonder why the soft skinned transports sucked (according to this tierlist). This whole tierlist is basically based on events that just happend to happen rather than objectivety in my opinion. The tank hunting spree could have happend with any 30mm autocannon on Hawk, the only differience being if they have the Ammo Upgrade. Unrelated to that, i'd say the best part about Hawk Republic tanks having ATGM's is that they remain accurate even after the gun is damaged. Also comparing the Humvee and Stryker to the BMP and BTR is straight up insane. 12:50 Japanese, not Chinese. One can also comment about how condesending you are to people wanting to pick a different playstyle than "Go up to the enemy and kill them", when fun is subjective. Some people find artillery fun. I think it's fun, at some point i had a squad forming a small artillery battery with supplies. You can try to guess but there's an artillery calculator. The high tier of the CV9040/STRF 9040 does not account for a huge issue my squad's gunner found: The elevation angle is atrocious, soo you can't take out helicopters with it, which the Hawk IFV's, and some other Eagle IFV's to some extent can do with no sweat. Also, the reload is atrocious.
bmp-3 is not bad compared to BMP-2 even it can be considered better for having better ammo choice and armor also it have way better anti infantry capabilities than BMP-2 (really best choice if you fight FISH with this)
Yea, my apologies, I kinda realized now how it should’ve gotten the same as t-14, aside from its insane durability it’s also got an auto loader that doesn’t have the same bullshit cookouts as the Hawk tanks.
The jltv should go into s tier ur doing it dirty, 30 mil can take out infantry easy and light vehicles and for tanks and helicopters u forgot the javelin top attack which u have 4 of i dont really believe that u even played it, plus all artillery vehicles are viable and op if you actually used mtc artillery calculator
The Bradley and Type 89 both getting D tier is just so wrong lmfao They're both excellent vehicles that do great work at ranged combat (sniping Ruski armor with ATGMs), they're not really meant to brawl MBTs in CQB like that lol. The Bradley gets even better once you're able to afford every single module on it, it becomes a commie killing machine You've also got the additional ability to spawn infantry on top of the IFVs so you can get more goons to swarm Hawk armored tldr; Eagle IFV good, total Hawk DEATH
Type 89 and it's 35 is a MONSTER you can one tap literally all the hawk IFVs (except the pay 2 win ones) and the ATGMs are solid and a amazing although the bradley is meh since by the time you have it fully upgraded the enemy has B-13s flying 63 studs away from you (you still ammo rack)
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"30 mm Bradley"
**Cause of death: 25 mm**
I mean it could be argued that the MTLB as an all class vehicle has the most amount of armor for infantry units who drive themselves instead of seating as passengers.
Idk my analysis was just charging into enemies and killing stuff
@@Antonemann
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@Antonemann BMD-2 in my opinion is actually good because unlike BTR-82A, the gun is more accurate for longer ranges and has 3 ATGM's, for a tier 1 tank, it's better than BMP-2 since BMP-2 while amphibious, requires you to be commander to use the ATGM whereas ATGM and auto-cannon are both useable as gunner in BMD-2.
Kornet Gaz Tigr is the definition of: "made of paper, but hits like a truck"
BMP2 and BMD2 have a special place in my Heart, to me they are S
Bmd 2 is my best start vehicle absolutely s tier
Here is some experience of some tanks I played (newest update ofc)
CATTB: Fatty M1A1 with the jet engine taken out for a diésel one, yet it gives more ammo and guess what? ALL THE AMMO I SON BLOWOUTS, yet it suffers that doesnt have a MG to kill nearby infantry but the 140mm gives a little bit of higher tier(except its tier 6 ingame)
T84 Oplot-M: very good tank that can be on both sides and has a great side armor and good turret traverse, yet it suffers that the cannon APFSDS only has like 480mm of pen and the APS addon cost 1K for it( at that point get the M1A2 or the 140mm leo, also it suffers from carrousel autoloader)
T84-120 Yatagan: very good tank also, both sides, good pen for his cannon, bustle ammo rack with blowouts and autoloader and good speed( yet it kinda lacks some side armor and you can kill it by shooting the hull ammo rack or destroying the Blowout door then the ammo, this also applies to the M1s, leos and pretty much every tank with blowouts)
Object 195: literally a budget T14, had a 30mm coax, 152mm cannon, APS that can cover angainst point blank range or 20m away from it, yet the downsides are the lack of speed and the tier its on, 60 kmh while 4 reverse and tier 6? Just try to get T14 or use T90M at that point
Object 640: the Black Eagle is a very good tank for top tier battles with the bustle autoloader, APS that cover the front and sides with very good armor, lacks a MG tho
Leo 140mm: for a tank that is at the same tier of the M1A2 it could be better, almost 1K with AP and with autoloader, yet it lacks alot of armor since you can kill it frontally
The chinese Wall-E Bradley: just very good to deal with infantry and vehicles at the same time, F&F missiles at tier 2 while having 4 lf them, 20 ATGMs with 200mm of pen(could be better) and 30mm with HE-VT, pretty good but lacks armor Sincé it uses the chasis of a T54
ZTZ99A: just an upgraded ZTZ96A, same problems that has but with better armor and APS
Cheonma-2( NK Abrams): whoever came the idea of giving hull ammorack should die, that thing is very good yet the hull ammo at the front kills it
BMP-1M: just a BMP-2 with the BTR-82A turret strapped with APFSDS
Leclerc: funni frenchy boi with autoloader
Merkava MK4M: pretty good for transporting infantry while being a MBT, good APS and cannon, yet the downside I see is the hull ammorack
LAV-AT: remember that M113 with ATGM turret? Welp they strapped it on a LAV, Perfect for flanking with it or using the turret less ability behind a hill
M1128 Stryker: good vehicle yet the turret ammorack is a big downside while also having no armor(its just a M1126 with a turret for tank hunting on top)
BMD-4M: good for an ATGM Carrier that can defender hitself, it can also be dropped from the air(armor is thick as a paper)
T80U-T80UM: eh quite dont see the diference, only the cannon and armor
M1127 ASG: just use when going solo infantry, its useless for everything else
Rosomak: funni wheeled speedy boi with 30mm and F&F missiles
The list is going the be expanded as we get more vehicles to play or I remember the others I bought.
Overral the tier list needs some changes but just gotta say that you can ammorack M1s and Leos by the turret ammorack, destroy the Blowout door and then get the ammo and boom
@@miguelangelgamarradominguez Damn bro, I did not understand what I just read but cool💯
Now do WW2
Oh dear god no...
@Antonemann Oh dear God yes...
Hawk Republic? Like hawk tuah?
Hawk tuah republic
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really liked the video, would love to watch something like this but with all the shop and badge vehicles included
@@illusion288 already in planning
As a veteran player BMP3 BMP2 BMD2 and BMD4M is S tier.
Object 477’s tier is actually diabolical.. 477 is like the best hawk tank in the game lmao
9:50 laugh in 1500 point Javelin
What you say about Oplot?
why 2s19 D tier , its good af as an artillery
ur bmp2 didnt kill a leopard, that was a korean k1 facing the other way showing its back armour
Artillery is pretty fun, taking random shots with it is definetly not the right way to use it.
Wait till his guy gets his hand on the leclerc
I would change a lot about the tier list, but I have a squad of actual, and I quote, "loser comp mtc virgins for life" that can reliably get 80+ kills a match, so I guess my opinion would be skewed and biased. (for example, tier six is hard to get at all for average crews, but for me and my comp losers we can get tier six 6ish minutes after the game starts)
Impressive! Me and my squad are all lobotomized so apologies if you found the tier list wrong, but damn 7500 points after 6 minutes is insane.
@@Antonemann no apology is needed, my squad definitely need to get jobs irl
LEARN THE game RAHHHH
I’m sorry lol but there’s like 50 vehicles😭
@Antoneboii ı am just Jokeing but let u know same times playing solo is better last time I play do 16k point solo soo ( maybe 8 years of war thunder experience Helping to)
@@timaking5438I’m blaming my crew😂
@@Antonemann ık my friends can t even drive
@AntonemannI believe you should have split it into 2 parts cause the devs had a spasm with eagle tier 1...
As an infantry main that usually goes solo, seeing the wiesel 1A2 and the JLTV in that low of a tier hurt my soul, them being a fast all-class vehicle is great for me, their armament is also good, especially with the TOW 2A/B they have
I love going into unexpected positions and ambushing MBT's with the TOW 2A/B, and i can just hop off and use my infantry guns to get rid of any enemies that are close by
Maybe, weisels where really fun to play with, now other people have already trashed me for putting JTAC at E but literally the only thing that happened when I played was getting absolutely annihilated.
The Stryker in f tier on eagle federation actually makes a pretty decent javelin carrier, it's underrated tbh
Same with the jvlt, the auto canon is more so and anti air since it gets proxy rounds which even a 'tarded newborn can use and the javelin is just "hold V on any target no matter the elevation or armour he dead" launcher, not to mention you can use it as any class.
Mtlb actually a good option for fish state, because you could mount anything on it (122mm go kaboom) and for its cost customization it is a decent vehicle in my opinion
If i were you, id move around some tanks in your eagle list like the Type 89, M2 Barfley (yes barf like vomit) since the barfley all depends on your loadout with it, if its a loaded one its pretty solid, and some others but
dont take it personal, great list good job.
So your just not going to include M270?
To be honest I like your opinion because all these tanks do deserves the tier they gotten. But in my opinion I think m1a1 Abrams should be a bit higher because when it comes to survivability and securing safety from flanks like rpg it’s good because you won’t explode if you always face your turret. Just don’t expose your side turret because that’s where the ammo rack is on the tank. The blowout panel does help if the enemy tank mistakenly did not hit the panel but the ammo rack, you do have a chance to retreat with smoke. Plus its mobility is decent, good reverse speed which is very important when it comes to retreating. M1a1 Abrams in my experience using it. Deserves like a B tier because you have a blowout panel the ammo is located at the turret not all over the tank which gives you a surviving chance and not exposed your ammo too easily like the Russian tanks, blowout panel which Gives you better survivability, good mobility with good reverse speed and decent forward speed, a decent gun which is good enough to last you against tier 3 or 4 Russian tanks. This is my opinion about the M1A1 Abram’s because it feels like it’s underrated from its tier and should be higher because all these stuff I discussed.
please continue doing mtc content I love this style of video
Thank you! I am planning to make the WW2 edition in the coming weeks or so, hopefully I’ll get more recognition from the MTC community by then.
Atgm wiesel should go waaay higher, its sneaky, small, and super useful for ambushes, plus the improved atgms slap
bro done pissing off the whole discord for 10 mins
Some vehicles like apc MTLB meant to transport troops sooo it depends on how many people do u wanna play with, and ifv like bradley also meant to be transporting troops with more survivability
I have been waiting for this video since forever, i couldnt see for myself because my pc is trash
JTAC "not possible to take out tanks with it" ever tried using javelin or the M1126 with javelin doing TOP down attacks from far ranges while the bmp2m only having 4 atmg
tbh placed at nice place for ambush, that rocket truck was imba, just a matter of perspective
Trust me the type 87 with the better ammo upgrade is actually DESTRUCTIVE like I had a rly braindead driver (it was his first time playing and he didn't even do the tutorial) and we still managed to take out mbts infantry and support vehicles
PS:in my opinion I think you can do as much kills as you want as long as you have a locked in teammate, I remember on one of my first matches in this game I was with a random on a Bradley and we just absolutely terrified the serv but when I'm with my braindead friends we barely get shit
I once charged an enemtly line as a T-90M gunner. My friend was driving. I killed two tanks, some infantry, maybe some more. Also, an AT gun. Then we got overrun. It was fun 👍
M1A1 should be higher, armor gives stellar performance especially with some of the addons, and me and a friend (yes 2 people) successfully destroyed hordes of enemy tanks with the powerful gun while camping in a VERY flankable spot
also we did get hit from behind by an RPG but we destroyed the target with one of the 4 machine guns and didn’t die because of blowout panels
Interesting! I can agree that the m1a1 could deserve B tier next to the challenger mostly because of it being in tier 2. And not dealing with bullshit Hawk cookouts is also a plus😅
this video reminds me of martincitopants
also valid tier list lol
7:54 Say that again...
Simple answer is that game biases eagle :)
not to mention the Tunguska isn't a MBT, it isnt meant for direct frontline combat, its to shoot down aircraft like the helicopters in the game, it deos have atgms that can kill tanks, but they are mainly used for aircraft. For the Strela, it's also a SPAA. It's "ATGM's" aren't really ATGM's, they are ground to air missiles made to also destroy helicopters, it has bad armor so don't use it against enemy eagle MBT's.
My 3.5 second autoloader weeb mobile is clearly S+ when solo or crewed
LAV Should be in S Tier, very good against Light armored vehicle and rushers, it has APFDS Upgrade meaning it can pen most vehicles like the T-series MBT and all IFVS in the Hawk team, it can airdrop which I utilize it on killing anti air and killing taking off aircraft and infantry, very underrated vehicles only good if you know how to play it, same with tankettes, the regular Tankette is very good, it can pen all IFVS and disable some MBT's, it's very good against infantry and its a rat tank, whilst the ATGM Tankette is also very good tank, which you can basically airdorp next to enemy spawn, camp in bush and kill almost all MBT's no matter armor with the top attack ATGM armor is shit but just get good lol
Joint Light Tacitcal vehicle is good for anti infantry, also has an upgrade where you could put an anti tank javelin on top of it meaning it can take out tanks, this vehicle can pen all infantry, also surprisingly well armored and most IFVS have a hard time penning it so do machine guns and rockets (good against fish)
the Bradley you definitely underrated that one, from the clips you were only using the original bradley, trust me this vehicle has so many upgrades (idk if you found out about upgrades) the Bradley has a shit ton of upgrades including Drone jammers ANTI TANK ERA, top attack ATGM, APFDS Rounds, Rural protection, APS, TROPHY System, etc from the upgrades but tbh yeah the bradley sucks without the upgrades with the APCR only, really this tank can pen anything you just need skill with it but decent rating ig in your opinion since you probably don't play this game as much as me
Abrams X solid rating that thing is shit and not worth it
STRF doesn't deserve S tier, has shit ammo capacity, only good for light armored vehicles and can't pen most MBT's without reloading like 30 times
Wait till you unlock all the tanks (Like me) Vehicles like the Hi-mag, apache, lil bird, and definitely the MLR (Ballistic missile capable artillery) all deserve S tier, Hi-mags my favorite, can pen almost all MBT's, good anti air to.
I recommend you remake the list with all the ingame vehicles you can buy with ingame money
I actually dont know how you think about vehicle😅 But gaz tigr is like stealth drive to the point and camping with RPGs
We need 12.7 mm ON TIGR!!!!
We need 12.7 mm ON TIGR!!!!
Artillery made not be fun if you don’t have a friend as a scout drone
personally as a lvl 76 the t80bmv deserves to be a S tier if you play it correctly
No, bradley deserve S tier, look very cool
1 you do not know why specialised vechicles exist, SPAA is strictly for killing helis (and aircraft irl), 2 ARTILLERY HAS IT'S ROLE, the fact that you don't enjoy playing it doesn't mean it's bad, same with IFV, you just don't know how to use vechicles in their desired roles.
You should be ranking them on how well they do in their jobs and not on their armor + gun pen. Ex: if you ranked the artillery and anti air with how well they did their jobs, there rankings would go significantly higher, you could also use the cars and APCS as an example with their main purpose being transport which some of them do really good at. The tanks are fine how they are rated but the IFVS and other things that have more unique play styles and tactics to use them should be significantly higher
yeah thats also an issue i have especially for his Hawk vehicles tierlist
Hey but there are more tanks missing in Hawk, still the Premium and the tanks in the store, also in Terminator it is very easy to kill, also the Burlak is a joke, also how did you not put Al Tunguska higher up, it's a very good anti-aircraft and deserves to be in Tier B, but well I agree with the rest
Bradley deserves better (skill issue)
BMP2 and BMD2 have a special place in my Heart, to me they are S
@@StefanoUrsella agreed
@@Fazbear-qy8mo to be fair the base Bradley is kinda mid.
However once you can afford all of the upgrades it starts to be a beast
Bradley is mid, Type 89 is better
Bradley should be in S tier 😭 Bradley one love
7:11 Beast from the east 😂👍🏻
He slingers and ifvs are the most fun to play. Fight me
Leopard tanks are so ass Lmao, shoot lfp and it dies to anything
JGHSFYISFGK\SCGHDFGAWYIDGAYIWEGF THE M1126 IS CARUTUWLLY GOOD BCSUZ I PLAYEDT IT USIN INFANTRY AND IT TANKED A 125MM RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH (its genuenly good)
What about the tyoe 90 and all the shop vechicles?
Wiesel is god tier for me
Motorcycle the best tank in the game
There's no shop vehicle so it's not complete
welll bmp 3 isnt used to be like that tho uhhh its very good at annihilating fişh.
the issues you are having with majority of the F and D Hawk vehicles is because you aren't using them correctly. The BMD-2 s meant to be airdropped and once you airdrop behind enemy lines, it starts to kick butt, for the BM-21 Grad rocket artillery, you need to use it far from enemy action because that is what artillery is for, not direct engagement. The BMP-3 isn't even that bad but I don't use it often. It also depends who you are going up against whether its a strongly armored tank or a tryhard. For the MT-LB, you are not meant to go direct engagement either because it's meant to drop off troops 💀
I think challenger 2 is the best tank, atleast with the crew I run with because the loader gets a thermal optic, aswell as very good camo netting.
Challenger 2 has no fucking armor and is trash only good vs C4 is trash without dorchester or megatron and with any of these challenger still gets cooked the fuck up easily by almost all APFSDS
But wher its my precious black knight
S tier- T64BV for me
i dont think you should cook again...
Where MTLB AA and LT SE ?
(join light tactical VECHILE) and the guy complains abt it not being able to destroy tanks lol
type 87 gotta be higher, so good against all tanks and aircraft. just dont go front on
Yeah like I wrote in the MTC 4 wiki page for it
No Merkava, Leclerc or Oplot mentioned. These are sad times
It’s for all the base tanks available without any purchase, maybe will make another tier list on them later
BMP-3 AT D?!?!?! 😭
the BMP-3 was the scariest thing pre HE nerf and its pretty solid tho 😭 RE REVIEW NOW!!!!
You need to learn how to use the mtk4 calculator, and then you will understand the meaning of artelleria. (showed 2s43, but put 2s7 in the lower range)
This guy really tried to frontline in an APC. Dude. No wonder why the soft skinned transports sucked (according to this tierlist).
This whole tierlist is basically based on events that just happend to happen rather than objectivety in my opinion. The tank hunting spree could have happend with any 30mm autocannon on Hawk, the only differience being if they have the Ammo Upgrade.
Unrelated to that, i'd say the best part about Hawk Republic tanks having ATGM's is that they remain accurate even after the gun is damaged.
Also comparing the Humvee and Stryker to the BMP and BTR is straight up insane.
12:50 Japanese, not Chinese.
One can also comment about how condesending you are to people wanting to pick a different playstyle than "Go up to the enemy and kill them", when fun is subjective. Some people find artillery fun. I think it's fun, at some point i had a squad forming a small artillery battery with supplies. You can try to guess but there's an artillery calculator.
The high tier of the CV9040/STRF 9040 does not account for a huge issue my squad's gunner found: The elevation angle is atrocious, soo you can't take out helicopters with it, which the Hawk IFV's, and some other Eagle IFV's to some extent can do with no sweat. Also, the reload is atrocious.
bmp-3 is not bad compared to BMP-2 even it can be considered better for having better ammo choice and armor also it have way better anti infantry capabilities than BMP-2 (really best choice if you fight FISH with this)
T64BM?
I can give you btr4 and t90a (game passes) for video
close enough
welcome back martincitopants at home
aight this vid was trash buddy stormed in got bodied and called it a day for every vehicle
Doesn't have fun with artillery
"Oh artillery vehicles suck and should go in F tier unless you use them in direct fire"
I mean, I already said it, but if you wanna sit in the back of the map for a 45 minute long game and randomly shoot in the air then go ahead..
@@Antonemann i aint talking abt arty nobody cares abt those, im talking abt u trashing good vehicles just cus u didnt play em enough.
@@ma_man As i said in the description, name the vehicles you felt deserve a better tier.
More mtc4 vids pls :)
Haha of course! I am currently working on the MTC4 WW2 tierlist, I’ll be done in the coming weeks or so!
okey dokey,now do fish where no one use tanks(holy shid automatic APHE)
and also where is the centurion mk5 teabag launcher,it's literally modern kv-2
Where Object 640?
Everyone knows everything in fish state is S tier
rage bait
Type 89 and bradley ain't too bad if you know what you doing
Where is T84 Oplot M, T64BM Bulat, T84-120 Yagatun? Oplot series is very fast
Pretty sure our man here is broke 💔
bmp2 gets a higher tier than bmd2 wild
Might have been unlucky lol
Nah man Trust me the Abram X goes hard. Right now it literally one shots any russian tank anywhere up until the T-90M. It also has 360° APS
Yea, my apologies, I kinda realized now how it should’ve gotten the same as t-14, aside from its insane durability it’s also got an auto loader that doesn’t have the same bullshit cookouts as the Hawk tanks.
Bad tank
Best AA
it also one shot t14 and 195 through ufp if they facing directly at you :d
JTAC on E is crazy.
Another frog man Teri list
The Type 89 is Japanese, not Chinese
Humvee could deserve better cause of the tow modification
if your looking to possibly try out all the payed tanks, i can offer up my assistances.
shop tanks? and gamepass
Putting the ZTZ 96 below the T72 is criminal
**Denied**
Temu ahh gameplay
Aside from the turret speed and somewhat cool optics this tank has absolutely nothing else to offer, well except for cookouts and plastic armor.
@Antoneboii true. By the way, why didn't you rate any other purchasable vehicles except for the arty car?
The jltv should go into s tier ur doing it dirty, 30 mil can take out infantry easy and light vehicles and for tanks and helicopters u forgot the javelin top attack which u have 4 of i dont really believe that u even played it, plus all artillery vehicles are viable and op if you actually used mtc artillery calculator
The 2s7 pion i use it as direct fire
You try, do it again when you be hider level
Definitely forget the type 16
The Bradley and Type 89 both getting D tier is just so wrong lmfao
They're both excellent vehicles that do great work at ranged combat (sniping Ruski armor with ATGMs), they're not really meant to brawl MBTs in CQB like that lol. The Bradley gets even better once you're able to afford every single module on it, it becomes a commie killing machine
You've also got the additional ability to spawn infantry on top of the IFVs so you can get more goons to swarm Hawk armored
tldr; Eagle IFV good, total Hawk DEATH
Type 89 and it's 35 is a MONSTER you can one tap literally all the hawk IFVs (except the pay 2 win ones) and the ATGMs are solid and a amazing although the bradley is meh since by the time you have it fully upgraded the enemy has B-13s flying 63 studs away from you (you still ammo rack)
Where is the Type90😢He is good boy.
BMD-4M Review when?
Yeah hes just level 10... i wouldn't expect why the tier list is so bad