It was an example because I didn't have the numbers infront of me. Mstr pre 10:1 split share price was 1300 after the split it was 130 but you owned 10 shares for every 1 share you owned before.
@ yes i get it just a number for reference yep 1000 before split and each share would still be 1000 is what you said but it would be 100 after the spit right? not 1000 after split
Thank you very much for the explanation. I came to YT and searched specifically for this after voting "no" last night. I can still change my vote though.
A lot of FUD on Bitcoin Twitter. Thank you for making this video! 🙌🏻 Perhaps one of the best explanations along with the guys from the 'Irresponsibly Long MSTR' community.
Finally a good explanation on this, I read so much FUD about this move. The ability to offer an additional split in the future makes total sense. Thanks!
Question, how creation of a new shares doesn't lower the price of existing shares by amount of a new shares? Even if BTC will go up, my shares today equal to the average price of Bitcoin cost for MSTR, correct around $55k and if MSTR buys new BTC today at the price around $100k it will increase the average cost of BTC, So, if or when price of BTC drops below average cost of BTC for MSTR they would be in a negative territory, how is this not the problem? and as a share holder, why I should be "happy" about this? thank you
It's dilutive to the shares, but it's accretive to the underlying permanent capital of Bitcoin they hold. Even with the issuing of new shares they are increasing the fully diluted Bitcoin per share. (They call it Bitcoin yield) They are able to do this because there is a multiple to their net asset value. If their mNAV is 3, by printing one share they dilute by a factor of 1 but get the Bitcoin of a factor of 3. Their Bitcoin is unencumbered by their debt so it doesn't fundamentally matter if the price of Bitcoin goes below their average purchasing price. Their share price will reflect that as they are ultimately a bet on Bitcoin price going up long term. But they are also a bet on being able to consistently add more Bitcoin per share over time. Just as any company today is valued on its future cash flows.
@@bitcoinnotcrypto thank you! but don't you see another potential problem here, this problem can be created for BTC by MSTR alone!! I think MSTR on a very thin ice here, if one company will be in possession of 20% of all BTC supply, many other countries and institutions may simply loose interest in it!! , Bitcoin has value as long as others need it, but if MSTR or even USA buys the most of available Bitcoins, what would be incentive for example for BRICS to enter this game? Why would they accept Bitcoin and by doing this empower one player, USA or MSTR,...obviously they not stupid. They can use a similar blockchain and create their own coin, and distribute it among them, lets say according to amount of gold they have at that time! They can always choose to play in their own sand box, and theres billions of them versus few hundred million of Bitcoin holders, what do you think?
@@bitcoinnotcrypto thank you! but don't you see another potential problem here, this problem can be created for BTC by MSTR alone!! I think MSTR on a very thin ice here, if one company will be in possession of 20% of all BTC supply, many other countries and institutions may simply loose interest in it!! , Bitcoin has value as long as others need it, but if MSTR or even USA buys the most of available Bitcoins, what would be incentive for example for BRICS to enter this game? Why would they accept Bitcoin and by doing this empower one player, USA or MSTR,...obviously they not stupid. They can use a similar blockchain and create their own coin, and distribute it among them, lets say according to amount of gold they have at that time! They can always choose to play in their own sand box, and theres billions of them versus few hundred million of Bitcoin holders, what do you think?
Just buy BTC. Unless you are looking to hold a stock instead. In that case MSTR is the one you want. In 10yrs , MSTR is going to be the largest BTC Bank in the World.
I hold both 50/50, and actually my 3 BTC worth of shares I put into MSTR a few years ago is worth way more today than if I had just held 100% BTC. I’m loving this combo of cold storage btc AND MSTR
MSTR has a massive incentive to issue new shares through either ATM or convert bonds when NAV premium is over 1. Proceeds from ATM or convert when MSTR is at a BTC NAV premium is accretive in BTC terms.
are you saying that the issuance of new shares is that they want to split again before too long,? that wouldnt be dilutive... i dont think that is what its about, plus if they split 10 to 1 then you get 1/10 the btc per share
It's to get into the s and p 500. Need tons of outstanding shares for admission. But the way they are giving value for the dilution is by the ability to borrow money for free or close to it compared to the rate we would get. And are buying bitcoin with it.
Yes, this will allow for more atm, and convertible bonds which are all accretive in a Bitcoin per share way. Btw thanks for recommending Robin sayer to be a guest on his show 🙂 he reached out
Thx for the Copium. I was thinking the stock would tank after the announcement, but instead it went up? QUESTION: Why is your MIC pointing away from you? My eyes are always drawn to it, as it seems to be an anomaly that needs adjusting.
Why not just continue to split the stock eventually to 10B and each split becomes accretive with more BTC per share rather than adding new shares even though they're getting more BTC per share too.
@@bitcoinnotcrypto Sorry, I'm just genuinely curious and don't know. I'm just wondering why they can't just continue to split 330M shares then continue to purchase BTC with each split still being accretive? Is there no other way to actually make each share backed by BTC regardless if it's by split or by dilution? Thank you.
@@mikethefilcan Splitting shares doesnt provide more money, it is only a technical action by corporations to reduce the stock price and increase the number of shares. In a stock split the "new shares" go the the existing shareholders and not new shareholders. So no new money flows to the company.
Your share split example at 5:00 talks a lot about your knowledge.. you just regurgitate other’s pointers. 1000 when split 10:1 is = 100 not a thousand.
Your comment speaks a lot about who you are - you watch and learn from the channel but cannot accommodate someone mispeaking something that’s pretty obvious. You must have clearly never misspoken in your life ??
Your comment speaks a lot about who you are - you watch and learn from the channel but cannot accommodate someone mispeaking something that’s pretty obvious. You must have clearly never misspoken in your life ??
5:00 🕔 would be stock split gift of the century if a 1000 USD share price split to 10 would outcome with 1000 USD each of these 10 shares 😂 damn.. Merry X Mas 🎄 I appreciate your work! Dividends would be cool
i think you made a mistake when you talked about the first stock split, each share would be $100 after split?
It was an example because I didn't have the numbers infront of me. Mstr pre 10:1 split share price was 1300 after the split it was 130 but you owned 10 shares for every 1 share you owned before.
I just re listened, yes I misspoke there.
@ yes i get it just a number for reference yep 1000 before split and each share would still be 1000 is what you said but it would be 100 after the spit right? not 1000 after split
@ appreciate the vids man! Merry Christmas 🇨🇦
Grazie per il consiglio). Elizzarda si è rivelata migliore di quanto pensassi))
Thank you for explaining that they needed to get this expanded share authorization to allow for future stock splits. Makes much more sense
We are going to the f’ing moon boys 🚀. See you all at a million 🎉
I would vote yes for this request. Whatever flexibility they need to serve us MSTR shareholders I am for.
Clear explanation as always - simply and clearly spoken
I’m all up for this 📈
Thank you very much for the explanation. I came to YT and searched specifically for this after voting "no" last night. I can still change my vote though.
Thank you for the informative videos . Look forward to them.
Merry Christmas.
his room looks like he sold everything for bitcoin... relatable
Kept the surf board!
Thank you man. That was a clear explanation for my chaotic mind.
Merry Christmas
To get into the s and p 500 there has to be a very very large amount of outstanding shares.
It was good timing as it probably helped to push their stock price up today
A lot of FUD on Bitcoin Twitter.
Thank you for making this video! 🙌🏻
Perhaps one of the best explanations along with the guys from the 'Irresponsibly Long MSTR' community.
Thanks mstr is going to be a great investment long term
Plebs dont understand how undervalued it is
imo the ptntl gap close (may be tomorrow 🤞) around 280 is good opportunity to get back aboard the MSTR 🚢 🫡 😎
🤓 always DYOR 🤓
Finally a good explanation on this, I read so much FUD about this move. The ability to offer an additional split in the future makes total sense. Thanks!
Loved the first split, any going forward I will celebrate because where BTC is going
Agreed. That split was awesome and I'm looking forward to more
be careful the proposal ismnot a split is a dilution
@@lonchi07 directly it isn't either of those. It's the authorization to issue more shares in the future.
Next split would make me a 310 shares shareholder 😂 still a crab 🦀 😢😅
Lmao W Gladiator reference with the parents retirement account comment 😂😂
I appreciate this! Deff going to shrink my position though
Appreciate you!
Thank you for your insight
Question, how creation of a new shares doesn't lower the price of existing shares by amount of a new shares? Even if BTC will go up, my shares today equal to the average price of Bitcoin cost for MSTR, correct around $55k
and if MSTR buys new BTC today at the price around $100k it will increase the average cost of BTC,
So, if or when price of BTC drops below average cost of BTC for MSTR they would be in a negative territory, how is this not the problem?
and as a share holder, why I should be "happy" about this? thank you
It's dilutive to the shares, but it's accretive to the underlying permanent capital of Bitcoin they hold. Even with the issuing of new shares they are increasing the fully diluted Bitcoin per share. (They call it Bitcoin yield)
They are able to do this because there is a multiple to their net asset value. If their mNAV is 3, by printing one share they dilute by a factor of 1 but get the Bitcoin of a factor of 3.
Their Bitcoin is unencumbered by their debt so it doesn't fundamentally matter if the price of Bitcoin goes below their average purchasing price. Their share price will reflect that as they are ultimately a bet on Bitcoin price going up long term. But they are also a bet on being able to consistently add more Bitcoin per share over time. Just as any company today is valued on its future cash flows.
That's too smart of a question for a cult. You are supposed to get pissed on by saylor and pretend it's rain
@bitcoinnotcrypto hey dummy, that's not leverage, that's a made up metric they used to confuse idiot retail investors like you
@@bitcoinnotcrypto thank you!
but don't you see another potential problem here, this problem can be created for BTC by MSTR alone!!
I think MSTR on a very thin ice here, if one company will be in possession of 20% of all BTC supply, many other countries and institutions may simply loose interest in it!!
, Bitcoin has value as long as others need it, but if MSTR or even USA buys the most of available Bitcoins, what would be incentive for example for BRICS to enter this game?
Why would they accept Bitcoin and by doing this empower one player, USA or MSTR,...obviously they not stupid.
They can use a similar blockchain and create their own coin, and distribute it among them, lets say according to amount of gold they have at that time!
They can always choose to play in their own sand box, and theres billions of them versus few hundred million of Bitcoin holders,
what do you think?
@@bitcoinnotcrypto thank you!
but don't you see another potential problem here, this problem can be created for BTC by MSTR alone!!
I think MSTR on a very thin ice here, if one company will be in possession of 20% of all BTC supply, many other countries and institutions may simply loose interest in it!!
, Bitcoin has value as long as others need it, but if MSTR or even USA buys the most of available Bitcoins, what would be incentive for example for BRICS to enter this game?
Why would they accept Bitcoin and by doing this empower one player, USA or MSTR,...obviously they not stupid.
They can use a similar blockchain and create their own coin, and distribute it among them, lets say according to amount of gold they have at that time!
They can always choose to play in their own sand box, and theres billions of them versus few hundred million of Bitcoin holders,
what do you think?
It'll be a merry Christmas when I'm in the money. April 440 strike
Will it drop alot ? Im a holder but got in at 390 holding 244 shares
Unfortunately me too! I have cold feet but I will hold on and not let go!!!
Just buy BTC. Unless you are looking to hold a stock instead. In that case MSTR is the one you want. In 10yrs , MSTR is going to be the largest BTC Bank in the World.
I hold both 50/50, and actually my 3 BTC worth of shares I put into MSTR a few years ago is worth way more today than if I had just held 100% BTC. I’m loving this combo of cold storage btc AND MSTR
I'm sorry to ask but why do you have Tha hat?
yooo!
Good cautions
MSTR has a massive incentive to issue new shares through either ATM or convert bonds when NAV premium is over 1. Proceeds from ATM or convert when MSTR is at a BTC NAV premium is accretive in BTC terms.
this will be the greatest rug pull in human history
are you saying that the issuance of new shares is that they want to split again before too long,? that wouldnt be dilutive... i dont think that is what its about, plus if they split 10 to 1 then you get 1/10 the btc per share
It's to get into the s and p 500. Need tons of outstanding shares for admission. But the way they are giving value for the dilution is by the ability to borrow money for free or close to it compared to the rate we would get. And are buying bitcoin with it.
I Love Trading options I wish they would do Stock split 2 for 1 when we cross 400 dollars a share.
Can BTC/share go up with the new expansion
Yes, this will allow for more atm, and convertible bonds which are all accretive in a Bitcoin per share way. Btw thanks for recommending Robin sayer to be a guest on his show 🙂 he reached out
Thx for the Copium. I was thinking the stock would tank after the announcement, but instead it went up?
QUESTION: Why is your MIC pointing away from you? My eyes are always drawn to it, as it seems to be an anomaly that needs adjusting.
The mic is on the side of it, so it's actually tilted to be facing me.
When is this happening
15th of January
In my opinion, if this goes through, all the little people who invested in the stock before will lose.
Why not just continue to split the stock eventually to 10B and each split becomes accretive with more BTC per share rather than adding new shares even though they're getting more BTC per share too.
How would the stock splits add Bitcoin to their balance sheet?
@@bitcoinnotcrypto Sorry, I'm just genuinely curious and don't know. I'm just wondering why they can't just continue to split 330M shares then continue to purchase BTC with each split still being accretive? Is there no other way to actually make each share backed by BTC regardless if it's by split or by dilution? Thank you.
@@mikethefilcan Splitting shares doesnt provide more money, it is only a technical action by corporations to reduce the stock price and increase the number of shares. In a stock split the "new shares" go the the existing shareholders and not new shareholders. So no new money flows to the company.
this will be good for BTC but bad for MSTR.
mstr mare teapa
I think only mstr gets bigger. Retail will be get fucked up. I sold my options the next day. He sold new shares to qqq buy.
👍🏻🙂
🏃Sell, it was just a dream ...
Please do not feel bad, its not too late to buy ... .
MSTR will tank now…
@@G-Master669 Agreed, Merry Christmas :)
tldr? Yes, the MSTR stock is going to be diluted.
Of course! And the Bitcoin per diluted shares will continue to go up!
Would this make mstr share price value ⬇️or⬆️ in near future ? Should I Hold or sell now ? 🙏🏻
Your share split example at 5:00 talks a lot about your knowledge.. you just regurgitate other’s pointers. 1000 when split 10:1 is = 100 not a thousand.
Lol I clearly just misspoke. But okay.
Your comment speaks a lot about who you are - you watch and learn from the channel but cannot accommodate someone mispeaking something that’s pretty obvious. You must have clearly never misspoken in your life ??
Your comment speaks a lot about who you are - you watch and learn from the channel but cannot accommodate someone mispeaking something that’s pretty obvious. You must have clearly never misspoken in your life ??
5:00 🕔 would be stock split gift of the century if a 1000 USD share price split to 10 would outcome with 1000 USD each of these 10 shares 😂 damn..
Merry X Mas 🎄 I appreciate your work! Dividends would be cool
What is the share price on 12/31/2025?