I never understood why more guitars have this, I just want to thankyou for sharing this information as I plan on using these truss rods in a guitar build.
You are welcome! This type of truss rod is great. It is what I use on all my bolt on necks. I'm going to start incorporating them into my set neck guitars soon. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the demo. I bought a spoke wheel truss rod for the first time for my current build and I think I'm gonna like it better than the headstock end truss rod and the vintage style heel adjustment rods.
Thanks for the demo dude. I'm learning how to make guitars now and have nearly finished my first one. But I'm planning to do more and would like to try the spoke-wheel truss rod. And one of the guitars I purchased has one of them too. But it's easier and faster to adjust them than most other truss rods, which is a bit of an advantage.
LoL It's an spanish saying like "you are a genius"😁, very common in football league. In the MusicMan guitars the spokewheel have an other type of installation without make the cut over the neck, is a circular drilling through the wood. If you see any model, you'll know about what I mean. If you know how to do that, please make a vid for us, the whole world will thank you! Greatings from Spain!👍
Great job and great tools! A question. What length does the truss rod need to be for a 24 fret neck Fender scale? Are 460 mm long enough? Thank you very much!
FPR Guitar Repairs I use 18 - 1/8" (that is around 460 mm I believe) truss rods for my 22 fret 25.5" necks. I don't see any issues with that length on a 24 fret neck. There are some truss rod manufacturers that will custom make any length that you need. Just search the web. Good luck and Thanks!
I'm working on my first build and I'm using a spoke truss rod as well. Mine isn't going to have the fancy peep hole in the fretboard though, it's just going to stick out of the heel, like Music Man guitars do. So how exactly does the rod stay secured in the neck? It seems like after I attach my fretboard, I could just pull the whole truss rod out again . Is that how it's supposed to be? It just lays in the channel? Just a little confused. Thanks for the video!
I install the truss rod upside down from what the manufacturer suggests and don't route all the way through the heal of the neck. I stop short of where the wheel will be. This allows me to get very easy access to the wheel and keep it contained within the neck. I don't want an access in the body. I can get pups closer to the neck as well. You probably could pull the truss rod out if installed the traditional way. I don't believe it will fall out. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
There's nothing special about how the fingerboard is glued down really. I do use guide pins to keep everything lined up and a clamping board for even pressure. Just have to make sure you don't use so much glue that it runs out, especially near the spoke wheel. If so, just clean up the squeeze out. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
StewMac states installing it with spoke barrel on bottom. Have you determined this is of no consequence? I was hoping to do it as you have since it seems to make more sense to have the spokes closer to the top. Thanks for the great video.
jitney4all...it doesn't matter which way you install it. It is a double action truss rod for correcting forward or back bow. The only difference will be whether you turn the spoke wheel clockwise or counterclockwise to correct either forward or back bow. It would be the opposite direction of what seems normal. With my installation method, if I want to take some forward bow out of the neck, I turn the spoke wheel clockwise. I hope this makes sense. I have no issues with this way of installing them. I also use carbon fiber rods in a specific location and also use vertical grain lumber that gives my necks incredible straightness and strength. I barely have to put any pressure on the truss rod after stringing to pitch to get .010" relief. Especially on maple necks. The truss rod doesn't have to work hard at all. Good luck and thanks for watching!
There are some spokewheels that can be attached to an Allen type. I buy mine as a spoke type. Look at Stewmac for these. The extentions can be found with a Google search. I hope this helps.
Hi, I just installed the same trussrod the same way you guys did (with the spokewheel up), but in the instructions it said that the spokewheel down. This will make the mechanism work just fine but with the oppossite direction when I tighten/loosen right? I think that it should work just fine but turing the wheel in the opposite direction of how it is supposed to right?
That's correct...it is a double action truss rod. The adjustment, on the other hand, will be the opposite of normal operation. I have installed these in this fashion for years and have never had any issues. Thanks for watching!
I don't use glue on any of the truss rod parts. It fits pretty snug in the channel. I do put a dab of sealant on the bottom of the channel at the brass areas just to keep any possible rattling from happening. Cheers!
Is it possible to install this kind of trust rod into a neck-trhough guitar. I'm working in a telecaster neck-trhough (what ever it's gonna happen) and i'm trying to make it fits a wheel truss rod into My guitar.
It is possible to install a spoke wheel type truss rod into a through neck and set neck guitar. I'm currently working on a router template to accommodate that type of application. Just need to make the cavity for the wheel to fit. Routers are great tools for this. Good luck and thanks for watching!
It isn't possible the way I'm doing them. The only way the truss rod can come out is if you continue routing the slot all the way through past the spoke wheel end. That would leave you an open channel for the body of the truss rod to slide out but then it would be visible at the spoke wheel end. Not a big deal really but, I like keeping the clearance around the wheel close and clean. Gives it a nice look. These double action truss rods are very robust so I don't believe there would be a reason to replace them. There is hardly any tension on them to achieve the proper neck relief required. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Which way to turn to tighten it?, clockwise or anticlockwise? and most importantly, from which point of view? facing the guitar in a playing position or in front of it? because clockwise can mean the opposite depending on where we are facing the guitar
I think the best way to explain this is as follows: When looking at the spoke wheel viewed from the bridge down to the nut, turning the wheel counterclockwise/anticlockwise will take forward bow out (lower relief), clockwise will put forward bow in (increase relief). Basically, it is the opposite of the traditional way of installing a double action trussrod with the spoke wheel on the bottom. I hope this helps.
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I never understood why more guitars have this, I just want to thankyou for sharing this information as I plan on using these truss rods in a guitar build.
You are welcome! This type of truss rod is great. It is what I use on all my bolt on necks. I'm going to start incorporating them into my set neck guitars soon. Thanks for watching!
That's a cool jig. Great video and bgm!!
I appreciate the compliment and thanks for watching!
Like what You R doing love a spoke wheel truss rod.
All the way better no contest. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah...the spoke wheel is much more accessible. Making it neat and tidy also adds a nice touch to the neck build. Glad to help.
Very clean, very nice. Thank you so much for the video!
You.re welcome! Thanks for watching.
thanks for sharing your expertise. I'll be trying this soon.
This jig is fairly straight forward to make. Good luck with it and I'm glad to help. Let me know how it comes out.
Thanks for the demo. I bought a spoke wheel truss rod for the first time for my current build and I think I'm gonna like it better than the headstock end truss rod and the vintage style heel adjustment rods.
I use this type only these days. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the demo dude. I'm learning how to make guitars now and have nearly finished my first one. But I'm planning to do more and would like to try the spoke-wheel truss rod. And one of the guitars I purchased has one of them too. But it's easier and faster to adjust them than most other truss rods, which is a bit of an advantage.
The spoke wheel truss rod is very convenient. I hope this video helps you out. Thanks for watching!
This is what I was looking for! Thanks a lot man! You are a crack!👍
You're welcome! Makes a perfect access. By the way, what is a crack? Never heard that term before.
LoL It's an spanish saying like "you are a genius"😁, very common in football league. In the MusicMan guitars the spokewheel have an other type of installation without make the cut over the neck, is a circular drilling through the wood. If you see any model, you'll know about what I mean. If you know how to do that, please make a vid for us, the whole world will thank you! Greatings from Spain!👍
Nicely done brother!
Routers are our friend,,,lol
Yes they are! Most used tool in the shop.
i like the way you split the neck for optimum grain ..nice stiff neck...and its gonna look good too!
Vertical grain is the way to go. The necks are very stable in this grain orientation. I never have issues. Thanks for watching!
Great job and great tools! A question. What length does the truss rod need to be for a 24 fret neck Fender scale? Are 460 mm long enough? Thank you very much!
FPR Guitar Repairs I use 18 - 1/8" (that is around 460 mm I believe) truss rods for my 22 fret 25.5" necks. I don't see any issues with that length on a 24 fret neck. There are some truss rod manufacturers that will custom make any length that you need. Just search the web. Good luck and Thanks!
I'm working on my first build and I'm using a spoke truss rod as well. Mine isn't going to have the fancy peep hole in the fretboard though, it's just going to stick out of the heel, like Music Man guitars do.
So how exactly does the rod stay secured in the neck? It seems like after I attach my fretboard, I could just pull the whole truss rod out again . Is that how it's supposed to be? It just lays in the channel? Just a little confused. Thanks for the video!
I install the truss rod upside down from what the manufacturer suggests and don't route all the way through the heal of the neck. I stop short of where the wheel will be. This allows me to get very easy access to the wheel and keep it contained within the neck. I don't want an access in the body. I can get pups closer to the neck as well. You probably could pull the truss rod out if installed the traditional way. I don't believe it will fall out. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
How did you glue the fretboard? I'm thinking about how to glue it and don't mess up with the glue on the wheel. Nice video!
There's nothing special about how the fingerboard is glued down really. I do use guide pins to keep everything lined up and a clamping board for even pressure. Just have to make sure you don't use so much glue that it runs out, especially near the spoke wheel. If so, just clean up the squeeze out. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
StewMac states installing it with spoke barrel on bottom. Have you determined this is of no consequence? I was hoping to do it as you have since it seems to make more sense to have the spokes closer to the top. Thanks for the great video.
jitney4all...it doesn't matter which way you install it. It is a double action truss rod for correcting forward or back bow. The only difference will be whether you turn the spoke wheel clockwise or counterclockwise to correct either forward or back bow. It would be the opposite direction of what seems normal. With my installation method, if I want to take some forward bow out of the neck, I turn the spoke wheel clockwise. I hope this makes sense. I have no issues with this way of installing them. I also use carbon fiber rods in a specific location and also use vertical grain lumber that gives my necks incredible straightness and strength. I barely have to put any pressure on the truss rod after stringing to pitch to get .010" relief. Especially on maple necks. The truss rod doesn't have to work hard at all. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Thanks for this video! But is there any individual spokewheel for sale? Can I install one spokewheel on my allen bolt truss rod neck?
There are some spokewheels that can be attached to an Allen type. I buy mine as a spoke type. Look at Stewmac for these. The extentions can be found with a Google search. I hope this helps.
Hi, I just installed the same trussrod the same way you guys did (with the spokewheel up), but in the instructions it said that the spokewheel down. This will make the mechanism work just fine but with the oppossite direction when I tighten/loosen right? I think that it should work just fine but turing the wheel in the opposite direction of how it is supposed to right?
That's correct...it is a double action truss rod. The adjustment, on the other hand, will be the opposite of normal operation. I have installed these in this fashion for years and have never had any issues. Thanks for watching!
Do you glue in the brass blocks on both ends?
I don't use glue on any of the truss rod parts. It fits pretty snug in the channel. I do put a dab of sealant on the bottom of the channel at the brass areas just to keep any possible rattling from happening. Cheers!
Is it possible to install this kind of trust rod into a neck-trhough guitar. I'm working in a telecaster neck-trhough (what ever it's gonna happen) and i'm trying to make it fits a wheel truss rod into My guitar.
It is possible to install a spoke wheel type truss rod into a through neck and set neck guitar. I'm currently working on a router template to accommodate that type of application. Just need to make the cavity for the wheel to fit. Routers are great tools for this. Good luck and thanks for watching!
is it possible to pull out the spoke wheel after installation?
It isn't possible the way I'm doing them. The only way the truss rod can come out is if you continue routing the slot all the way through past the spoke wheel end. That would leave you an open channel for the body of the truss rod to slide out but then it would be visible at the spoke wheel end. Not a big deal really but, I like keeping the clearance around the wheel close and clean. Gives it a nice look. These double action truss rods are very robust so I don't believe there would be a reason to replace them. There is hardly any tension on them to achieve the proper neck relief required. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Which way to turn to tighten it?, clockwise or anticlockwise? and most importantly, from which point of view? facing the guitar in a playing position or in front of it? because clockwise can mean the opposite depending on where we are facing the guitar
I think the best way to explain this is as follows: When looking at the spoke wheel viewed from the bridge down to the nut, turning the wheel counterclockwise/anticlockwise will take forward bow out (lower relief), clockwise will put forward bow in (increase relief). Basically, it is the opposite of the traditional way of installing a double action trussrod with the spoke wheel on the bottom. I hope this helps.
@@lesperanceguitars8381 Yes, thanks