@@boomstick7506 could be totally wrong about it, but i think it is governor when in charge of a single system (e.g. Price for the Lothal System), moff for an entire sector (e.g. Gideon for the Mandalorian sector/space), and gran moff for group of sectors or entire rim like the entire outer rim for Tarkin. Governor -> Moff -> Gran Moff (It's both a goverment role and a military one, but yes i never really understrood how they share power on the military with generals and admirals)
I was just about to ask. I just rewatched Ashoka and I've been looking for GA Sloane everywhere. I would have been real mad at myself if I had missed it.
The first time I ever encountered Thrawn as a kid was playing Empire at War: Forces of Corruption and suddenly being thown into a space battle against Thrawn commanding the Chimera. I metaphorically crapped my pants.
Thrawn is a beast in Empire at war. When I played the galactic conquest Thrawn always attacked Bespin and took it. I was playing with the canon mod as well.
I remember stumbling upon heir to the empire in my school library one summer, and that took me down the deep rabbit hole of Star Wars legends. He still remains my favorite character after the real hero of the story R2D2
This is neither here nor there, but I find Peccati Syn’s name hilarious. “Peccatus” in Latin means “sinned.” So his name is “Sinned Syn.” Doesn’t get more evil than that
I love the wide variety of Grand Admirals in Legends. There were some wild, crazy ones in that roster and I hope we continue to expand the rosters of Grand Admirals in Canon. Thrawn is without doubt the best one in either continuity but anyone capable of earning that rank from Emperor Palpatine himself would make a great antagonist for future stories. I liked the added detail of Thrawn's Grand Admiral uniform being worn and tattered from his exile on Peridea, which it's finally good to have some answers for rather than stating his fate as unknown in the video😂
Ah yes, Ishin-Il-Raz, a guy with no military skills, but who were so fanatically loyal to Palpatine, he did anything he could to get his attention, such as committing mass killings and war crimes left right and center. Poor guy became so depressed after Palpatine's death, he ended up committing suicide as a result, taking down with him tens of thousands other crew members.
Declann also used Battle Meditation during Endor. When he sensed Palpatine die, he stopped and rushed to the throne room, which is when the tide of battle began to turn against the Imperials.
I think there is a typo on the slide with Rae Sloane sources. States the same sources in the same order as the Thrawn slide but I assume it should actually be… Squadrons, A New Dawn, and the Aftermath Trilogy?
Do you mean that as in "did any grand admirals defect" OR did anyone in the rebel alliance hold the rank of grand admirals? As mentioned in the video, in Legends Grant did defect to the new republic but his position wasn't transferred and Palleon as a grand admiral in the imperial remnant did fight allongside the galactic alliance (the replacement of the new republic( during the yuzon ving war). In canon no grand admirals (or grand generals) have defected. In canon, notably aftermath book 2: life debt, it's stated that the rank of "grand admiral" is an imperial only rank, with the rebel alliance/new republic utilizing fleet admiral instead. This was in response to Rae Sloan addressing ackbar upon one of his victories against her remnant as "grand admiral ackbar".
between the Grand Admiral that takes so much spice it gives him superpowers and Leia communing with her fetus in the Thrawn trilogy it's pretty wild seeing Legends lift even more stuff from Dune than the OT already did
On the one hand you forgot to mention that the Jedi Ezra Bridger stowed away on Thrawn’s ship. But on the other hand, the fate of Rae Sloane is revealed in the book called Star Wars Battles that Changed the Galaxy, that she did not had the focial points in leadership so that is when Snoke came in, killed her, and took over the First Order.
Great Channel I'm confused I thought only the emperor could promote to the rank of grand Admiral how can she become a grand Admiral if the emperor was dead
Isn't it *THE* highest military rank in the Empire, unless you count Sith Lord's Apprentice? EDIT: Well, I suppose Grand General is equal in rank to it.
If Peccati Syn had known what the Sith did to Taris several thousand years ago, he'd never have devoted himself to the Church of the Dark Side and deserted when he learned of the Empire's affiliation with the Sith. It's sad really. One tiny bit of information could've kept him from becoming a monster.
Star Wars explained Grand Admiral thrawn was above moff Gideon tarkin and other Imperial officers and rank but below vader and palpatine he was basically the left hand man of the emperor While vader was the right hand man see where I'm going
He had a white uniform but he was Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence. Seems similar to Krennic since he also wore white but was largely an administrator.
In universe i could kinda see it working if you have a small connection to the force. Putting yourself into a drug induced stupor could probably alter your state of consciousness to a point where you could accidentally draw on it.
@@deanthemachine8879 In terms of taking the name directly, few. You got stellaris, known space, sly cooper, and firefly (though that is actual earth spices) In terms of a miracle pyschoactive drug resource that alters your mind and is a key aspect of the economy (even possibly giving you super powers). Id need a bigger list, but stuff like Warhammer, doctor who, fallout, elderscrolls. And here star wars falls into the latter since the narcotic that the grand admiral took to become telepathic is called “glitterstim”
I think the legends version of Thrawn in better. Dude literally had a disagreement with the Emperor and was hated by the imperial court. Said screw it I can do better then this. Went out into the unknown regions and built up his own empire. Then came back to take command of the original empire.
In the canon book trilogy by Zahn, he has some stellar moments (and the books are MUCH better than his on screen material). I wont spoil, but he does some insane feats.
also Star Wars explained and everyone do you believe the prime Jedi and the chosen one are related identical or share some similarities because both share true perfect balance in the force maybe Anakin was the descendant of him the prime Jedi his ancestor
Aside from Thrawn, I immediately think of Zaarin when it comes to Legends GAs because of the TIE Fighter game. Funnily enough I think it was other material that said Zaarin was a GA because he wasnt one in the game. I still await a live action Sloane, and Imma join the camp that wants her to be played by Angela Basset.
Zahn basically carried over Legends information about 12 Grand Admirals, so no, we have yet to see 10 canon Grand Admirals (excluding Savit and Thrawn)
Bro, what? Pre Disney had the crazy grand admirals...so no. Disney canon has 3 (Thrawn,Sloane and Savitt) and the canon ones are MUCH more tame and not as weird.
I mixed up the sources for Rae Sloane. Oops! It should read, A New Dawn, Kanan: The Last Padawan, Squadrons, and the Aftermath Trilogy.
Can you cover the grand generals and grand moffs next? And explain how the moffs differ from governors, i have never understood the sharing of power.
As far as i remember she wasn't in Rebels but we all make mistakes so no problem
@@boomstick7506 could be totally wrong about it, but i think it is governor when in charge of a single system (e.g. Price for the Lothal System), moff for an entire sector (e.g. Gideon for the Mandalorian sector/space), and gran moff for group of sectors or entire rim like the entire outer rim for Tarkin. Governor -> Moff -> Gran Moff (It's both a goverment role and a military one, but yes i never really understrood how they share power on the military with generals and admirals)
I saw Sloane in Rebels and was like WHAT, how did I miss that??? lol.
I was just about to ask. I just rewatched Ashoka and I've been looking for GA Sloane everywhere. I would have been real mad at myself if I had missed it.
Legends got WILD sometimes man
Sometimes is an understatement
Yep for every Heir to the Empire, X-Wing and Shadows of the Empire, we got a Dark Empire, The Crystal Star, and Jedi Prince.
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Dont put dark empire with crystal star 😭 dark empire 1 aint THAT bad.
That's why I love it.
Not always in a good way.
The first time I ever encountered Thrawn as a kid was playing Empire at War: Forces of Corruption and suddenly being thown into a space battle against Thrawn commanding the Chimera.
I metaphorically crapped my pants.
Thrawn is a beast in Empire at war. When I played the galactic conquest Thrawn always attacked Bespin and took it. I was playing with the canon mod as well.
Same here!! Damn! 😂
Except it wasn't the Chimera, but the Admonitor.
@noxaeterna2 Was it? I need to play that campaign again, its been like 10 years.
He was the reason I played TIE Fighter way back when. He looked properly evil in it.
I remember stumbling upon heir to the empire in my school library one summer, and that took me down the deep rabbit hole of Star Wars legends. He still remains my favorite character after the real hero of the story R2D2
This is neither here nor there, but I find Peccati Syn’s name hilarious. “Peccatus” in Latin means “sinned.” So his name is “Sinned Syn.” Doesn’t get more evil than that
Hail grand admiral Pellaeon,Hero of the imperial remnant!
I zoned out for a minute and came back to the video when the three eyed guy turned up, and man was that wild!
I love the wide variety of Grand Admirals in Legends. There were some wild, crazy ones in that roster and I hope we continue to expand the rosters of Grand Admirals in Canon. Thrawn is without doubt the best one in either continuity but anyone capable of earning that rank from Emperor Palpatine himself would make a great antagonist for future stories. I liked the added detail of Thrawn's Grand Admiral uniform being worn and tattered from his exile on Peridea, which it's finally good to have some answers for rather than stating his fate as unknown in the video😂
Wonderful video! Love getting both canon and legends lore from you.
I love all Star Wars Explained videos!
Ishin-Il-Raz is basically the Star Wars version of Waylon Smithers.
Ah yes, Ishin-Il-Raz, a guy with no military skills, but who were so fanatically loyal to Palpatine, he did anything he could to get his attention, such as committing mass killings and war crimes left right and center. Poor guy became so depressed after Palpatine's death, he ended up committing suicide as a result, taking down with him tens of thousands other crew members.
Declann also used Battle Meditation during Endor. When he sensed Palpatine die, he stopped and rushed to the throne room, which is when the tide of battle began to turn against the Imperials.
I really hope we get to see Rae Sloane onscreen at least once
They supposedly interviewed Angela Bassett for the Rey movie...
Mixed up the sources in Rae Sloane
I’m surprised we haven’t gotten a comic on Rae Sloane post gcw
Takel literally did so many drugs that he got super powers. I love that!
His ship was literally called “The Magic Dragon!” That’s hilarious! 😂
“The Spice must flow!”
I think there is a typo on the slide with Rae Sloane sources. States the same sources in the same order as the Thrawn slide but I assume it should actually be… Squadrons, A New Dawn, and the Aftermath Trilogy?
I was wondering the same thing
Ah dang, thanks for the heads up, I can fix it for the short!
@@StarWarsExplained All good :)
@@StarWarsExplained You guys work so hard
0:15 Canon
3:43 Legends
A drug called spice providing the user with some telepathic abilities. Wonder where that idea came from
Love the uniform of the grand admirals with the gold shoulder things (plates i guess?).
They’re called epaulettes
Right! Thanks
I love the legends grand admirals.
Did not like the way Thrawn went out in Legends. When I first read it I was like WTF.
Grand admiral Multan takel is probably one of my favorite grand admirals he is very underrated
Milton takels flagship being called magic dragon had to be an insult to him due to him being a habitual spice user
Playing the gamer Tie Fighter is where I met Thrawn and Zaarin for the first time!
Takel must've been really high on Spice when he named his flagship Magic Dragon 😂
And did Grant really named his ship Oriflamme? 😂
Gilad Pellaeon is legendary in legend.
Sorry but why is Pellaeon shaking hands with Bigbird?
The Thrawn duology got a little weird.
In Legends, wasn't Thrawn promoted as a mostly secret 13th Grand Admiral?
What an admirable video
Miltin Takel is the craziest of the legends grand admirals because of his drug addiction and limited telepathic ability
I recall Savit being pronounced differently in Thrawn Treason.
In before Bad Batch reveals a new Grand Admiral just to mess with Alex...
Hapes is pronounced with 2 syllables? I am semi-speechless.
were there any grand admirals in the rebel alliance?
Do you mean that as in "did any grand admirals defect" OR did anyone in the rebel alliance hold the rank of grand admirals?
As mentioned in the video, in Legends Grant did defect to the new republic but his position wasn't transferred and Palleon as a grand admiral in the imperial remnant did fight allongside the galactic alliance (the replacement of the new republic( during the yuzon ving war).
In canon no grand admirals (or grand generals) have defected.
In canon, notably aftermath book 2: life debt, it's stated that the rank of "grand admiral" is an imperial only rank, with the rebel alliance/new republic utilizing fleet admiral instead. This was in response to Rae Sloan addressing ackbar upon one of his victories against her remnant as "grand admiral ackbar".
@@depreseo i meant did anyone in the rebel alliance hold that rank?
between the Grand Admiral that takes so much spice it gives him superpowers and Leia communing with her fetus in the Thrawn trilogy it's pretty wild seeing Legends lift even more stuff from Dune than the OT already did
On the one hand you forgot to mention that the Jedi Ezra Bridger stowed away on Thrawn’s ship.
But on the other hand, the fate of Rae Sloane is revealed in the book called Star Wars Battles that Changed the Galaxy, that she did not had the focial points in leadership so that is when Snoke came in, killed her, and took over the First Order.
What about Faro taking command of the Eleventh Fleet? Was it ever confirmed if she made it back to Coruscant at the end of Thrawn Treason?
yes
Great Channel I'm confused I thought only the emperor could promote to the rank of grand Admiral how can she become a grand Admiral if the emperor was dead
Isn't it *THE* highest military rank in the Empire, unless you count Sith Lord's Apprentice?
EDIT: Well, I suppose Grand General is equal in rank to it.
grand moff too
@@hunter__harrington That's a political rank, not a military rank.
@@Compucles thank you for the info did not know that
Slight question but does Il Raz zoom in on Grunger and Grunger on Il Raz.
Maybe They’re Saving Rae Sloan For That Mandolorian Movie 🤷🏾♂️
*Sloane
If Peccati Syn had known what the Sith did to Taris several thousand years ago, he'd never have devoted himself to the Church of the Dark Side and deserted when he learned of the Empire's affiliation with the Sith. It's sad really. One tiny bit of information could've kept him from becoming a monster.
Star Wars explained Grand Admiral thrawn was above moff Gideon tarkin and other Imperial officers and rank but below vader and palpatine he was basically the left hand man of the emperor While vader was the right hand man see where I'm going
wasn't Yularen a grand Admiral in a New Hope?
He had a white uniform but he was Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence. Seems similar to Krennic since he also wore white but was largely an administrator.
I wonder if the First Order had Nightsisters like Thrawn did. Probably not but it would still be cool.
Actually being a capable leader is Thrawn in a nutshell.
The guy who was a spice addict had a ship called the Magic Dragon! 🤣🪄🐉
STAR WARS SPICE GIVES YOU TELEPATHY?! C’mon, man… that’s way too on the nose
In universe i could kinda see it working if you have a small connection to the force.
Putting yourself into a drug induced stupor could probably alter your state of consciousness to a point where you could accidentally draw on it.
@@Mal-sg6zc I mean, I guess 🤷🏻♂️. It’s so close to Dune spice that I’m surprised someone didn’t get sued
@@deanthemachine8879 there are alot of sci fi franchises that have spice. Star Wars getting sued for it would honestly be strange.
@@Mal-sg6zc what other franchises?
@@deanthemachine8879
In terms of taking the name directly, few. You got stellaris, known space, sly cooper, and firefly (though that is actual earth spices)
In terms of a miracle pyschoactive drug resource that alters your mind and is a key aspect of the economy (even possibly giving you super powers). Id need a bigger list, but stuff like Warhammer, doctor who, fallout, elderscrolls.
And here star wars falls into the latter since the narcotic that the grand admiral took to become telepathic is called “glitterstim”
Grand Admirals sure did have Star Wars names
I forgot that Zsinj wasn't actually a Grand Admiral, just that he chose to wear a white uniform like them
Is grandmoff a higher position than gran admiral?
Good stuffs
We need more or new ones in canon
Lol Miltin Takel and spice.
I think the legends version of Thrawn in better. Dude literally had a disagreement with the Emperor and was hated by the imperial court. Said screw it I can do better then this. Went out into the unknown regions and built up his own empire. Then came back to take command of the original empire.
In the canon book trilogy by Zahn, he has some stellar moments (and the books are MUCH better than his on screen material). I wont spoil, but he does some insane feats.
also Star Wars explained and everyone do you believe the prime Jedi and the chosen one are related identical or share some similarities because both share true perfect balance in the force maybe Anakin was the descendant of him the prime Jedi his ancestor
Love me some Grand Admirals
👍
thrawn is the smartest star wars character
Drugs give you superpowers in Legends apparently
Aside from Thrawn, I immediately think of Zaarin when it comes to Legends GAs because of the TIE Fighter game. Funnily enough I think it was other material that said Zaarin was a GA because he wasnt one in the game.
I still await a live action Sloane, and Imma join the camp that wants her to be played by Angela Basset.
Hopefully they will give us a new grand admiral soon enough.
This all the admirals that we should vote for the election 2024 for peace and freedom
it would be find if grand admiral was a rare promotion in canon and there would be less then 5
Zahn basically carried over Legends information about 12 Grand Admirals, so no, we have yet to see 10 canon Grand Admirals (excluding Savit and Thrawn)
Wow...find a woman for your life if this is what you're watching.
Yet you’re watching it😂
Grow up
in REAL pre disney cannon there was only thrawn and no others.... so TLDR more disney revisonism?
Bro, what? Pre Disney had the crazy grand admirals...so no. Disney canon has 3 (Thrawn,Sloane and Savitt) and the canon ones are MUCH more tame and not as weird.