Complete History of the Grand Admirals

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @CoreysDatapad
    @CoreysDatapad  Год назад +59

    MarMar has edited a couple videos for me on my gaming channel, but this is the first of her work to show up on Datapad, so thanks to MarMar for her work here!

    • @MarMarBunbun
      @MarMarBunbun Год назад +4

      Glad to work on these videos with you! I really enjoyed editing this one

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад

      Now that's one lucky job there, dude/ma'am!

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 Год назад +2

      You know you've finally made it on your lore channel when you have an editor, congrats haha

  • @jermainecole4887
    @jermainecole4887 Год назад +143

    Thrawn is the character that got me into Star Wars man, so to see him finally get the recognition he deserves is amazing

    • @SteelerFan716
      @SteelerFan716 Год назад

      Oh, you poor bastard. Disappointed yet? I am.

    • @gackleballsg2034
      @gackleballsg2034 Год назад

      Cool

    • @thomasbaughman9941
      @thomasbaughman9941 Год назад +5

      It's too bad they managed to completely fuck up an already written character and story arc.

    • @JustRifff
      @JustRifff Год назад +2

      Did the movies themselves not get you into starwars?? 😅

    • @Kaiju-Driver
      @Kaiju-Driver Год назад

      Amen man, He is amazing.

  • @crazyj7867
    @crazyj7867 Год назад +67

    I'm obsessed with the Imperial fracture era of starwars legends and Gilad Pellaeon Is the most underrated of all time

    • @abemigos9281
      @abemigos9281 Год назад +6

      Underrated is one hell of an overstatement, honestly.

    • @empirednw6624
      @empirednw6624 Год назад +4

      Love the warlord era. Wish we got more pentastar alignment stuff. The greater maldrood was a total joke though.

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin4962 Год назад +17

    I wouldn't call Syn 'mediocre' at all. He rose through the ranks to admiral via merit and zeal. Ackbar himself admits that it was only through the Bothan's sabotaging two of Syn's Interdictor cruisers as well as feeding the Grand Admiral false Intel about being able to expect reinforcements fromHigh Admiral Teradoc that Ackbar was able to win the battle of Kashyyyk against Syn. That's high praise coming from the best commander the New Republic had.

    • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
      @Prophetofthe8thLegion 7 месяцев назад

      In all fairness as far as admirals go Ackbar is kinda just average, so is that really a testament to Syn’s skill or Ackbar being just unable to compete on an even playing field?

  • @Austrian_Butcher
    @Austrian_Butcher Год назад +9

    The new republic executing someone as "An example" is something I did not expect to hear

    • @seawind930
      @seawind930 10 месяцев назад +9

      It was the first time they really had someone from the Emperors own Circle and they wanted to show to their members that the New Republic had a Judicial system that would deal with Imperials harshly and not just use them for backdoor intelligence and favors.

  • @ZoomReverseFlash
    @ZoomReverseFlash Год назад +40

    IIRC Zsinj expected to become the next Grand Admiral before Palpatine death, and then just donned the white GA uniform when he became an independent warlord.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +12

      At least he nails the look.

    • @Theology.101
      @Theology.101 Год назад +6

      that’s be a pretty big downgrade honestly. He was a Grand Moff, right?

    • @justintaylor1713
      @justintaylor1713 Год назад +7

      @Theology.101 If I’m remembering correctly he held the rank of Warlord, cause for some reason it was actually a rank

    • @Theology.101
      @Theology.101 Год назад +12

      @@justintaylor1713 Yeah Thrawn had the title too. Warlord of the Empire means someone who had control over both the military and civilian infrastructure

  • @spencersholden
    @spencersholden Год назад +69

    I always think Zsinj is a grand admiral for a second before remembering he isn’t. Would have been really cool.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 Год назад +13

      Yes Zsinj was given the rank of warlord which another comment pointed out was a person who held military and political command. I think something similar to a head of state. It apparently is like a mix between Grand Admiral which is military with some political power and Grand Moff which is political with some military power.
      (Though moffs and grand moffs like Tarkin did have some significant military control.)

    • @spencersholden
      @spencersholden Год назад +1

      @@mill2712 I know that. I just wanted to see another grand admiral do something besides Thrawn.

  • @Hartzilla2007
    @Hartzilla2007 4 месяца назад +3

    Well until we found out Thrawn was still MIA I thought it was funny that both Grand Admirals were sending proxies to the Shadow Council meeting like neither one of them wanted to bother with those guys.

  • @TobeWilsonNetwork
    @TobeWilsonNetwork Год назад +2

    1:17 Joruus, he was so full of life. Gone before his time.

  • @NeidalRuekk
    @NeidalRuekk Год назад +6

    12 out of 13 go down fighting, the last sips martinis on Rathalay for Force knows how long.

  • @TheKingofbrooklin
    @TheKingofbrooklin Год назад +41

    I always had the impression that most of the Grand Admirals embody one aspect of the seven deadly sins.

    • @enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089
      @enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089 Год назад

      That would be interesting. What's sin does Thrawn embody?

    • @TheKingofbrooklin
      @TheKingofbrooklin Год назад +11

      @@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089 Thrawn is one of the exceptions. I see it that way:
      Grant - pride
      Tigellinus - greed
      Takel - lust - gluttony
      Pitta - envy
      Grunger - wrath
      Batch - sloth

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw Год назад +7

      thrawn is absolutely pride, fucker gets killed because he never considered his deception on the oppression of the noghiri to ever be his downfall or at least consider it a danger to him while he was pretty content with having rukh around
      he was never dumb or blinded by pride to a cartoony level but he has his flaws

    • @TheKingofbrooklin
      @TheKingofbrooklin Год назад +2

      @@kR-qj7rw The deception of the Noghri started long before he had part in it. He continued it for pragmatic reasons and not for pride.

  • @Theology.101
    @Theology.101 Год назад +21

    Barring Thrawn, I just fucking love Teshik. He strikes me as Wulf Yularen, Gilad Pellaeon type. His ‘not harsh enough on pirates’ dounds like he refused a few too many orders from palp

  • @empirednw6624
    @empirednw6624 Год назад +13

    Teshik actually was framed in a kangaroo court. No war crimes could actually be attributed to him.

  • @themanyouwanttobe
    @themanyouwanttobe Год назад +14

    Legends really got wild at times.

  • @undertakernumberone1
    @undertakernumberone1 6 месяцев назад +1

    02:45 "WHile Thrawn developed the TIE Defender in canon..." Well, that's been retconned, lol.

  • @manuelgrothe608
    @manuelgrothe608 Год назад +2

    We need Grand Admiral Thrawn In The Bad Batch, Obi Wan Kenobi, Andor, and The Mandalorian seasons 2-3-4

  • @DragonMaws420
    @DragonMaws420 Год назад +6

    Can you please do grand moffs next?

  • @nicholasmaryniak3815
    @nicholasmaryniak3815 Год назад +16

    I really hope the Sloane issue is addressed, even just a little throwaway line about it. I quite liked her, I quite liked aftermath series overall. Grand Admirals have set my heart racing since I was little. Thanks!

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 Год назад +2

    Always wanted to see more of the circle of twelve grand admirals

  • @thetarkinist7265
    @thetarkinist7265 Год назад +6

    Il-Raz is my boy

  • @brunobertossi
    @brunobertossi Год назад +8

    Damn I was thinking about the Phantom and you talk about the Rebel Assault II story. I got this crazy fan theory about Thrawn now developing the Phantom + the Defender as his way present himself as a big threath. Also I think Rae Sloane is by far the most competent out of the rest.

  • @George-Hawthorne
    @George-Hawthorne 2 месяца назад

    Ranking the Grand Admirals
    1) Thrawn
    2) Demetrius Zaarin
    3) Ozvald Teshik
    4) Peccatti Syn
    5) Danetta Pitta
    6) Josef Grunger
    7) Balanhai Savit
    8) Nial Declaan
    9) Rufaan Tigellinus
    10) Miltin Takel
    11) Octavian Grant
    12) Afsheen Makati
    13) Martio Batch
    14) Ishin Il-Raz

  • @celsetialarchives5909
    @celsetialarchives5909 Год назад +3

    I hope when thrawn gets back to the galaxy in ahsoka he dosent immediately announce his return
    I hope instead he links up with pellion and works to get his ship fixed etc in secret
    Caz lets face it
    The chimera and its tues etc combined with the firepower on that ring are not gonna be stopped by one jedi ship

  • @vjisa328
    @vjisa328 Год назад +8

    How many grand admirals are in Thrawn's Revenge?

    • @HonestHappyHater
      @HonestHappyHater Год назад +6

      IIRC Thrawn, Takel, Makati, Grunger, Pitta, Syn, Grant and Pellaeon.
      Thrawn can be a leader for the Imperial Remnant, Pellaeon can be a leader for the Imperial faction that forms Dark Empire, Makati and Takel appear as heroes for the Imperial Remnant, Grunger can appear as a hero for any Imperial faction (he is one of the "smaller" warlords, integrable through the political tab), Pitta and Syn are independent warlords and Grant starts off as a hero for the Pentastar Alignment, but in later era starts he can be recruited by the New Republic through the political tab

    • @vjisa328
      @vjisa328 Год назад +2

      @@HonestHappyHater Thanks I was wondering how many grand admirals I can gather and play with as IR

    • @HonestHappyHater
      @HonestHappyHater Год назад +5

      @@vjisa328
      Recently some heroes got "warlord" tags, which means thaf they have to be killed in order for a faction to be integrated. I'm not sure if Grant and Syn got those tags, but if they didn't, then with some hustle the Imperial Remnant could integrate all of them except Danetta Pitta at some point.
      As Imperial Remnant progress to Thrawn, integrate the Pentastar Alingment without killing Grant, allow Greater Maldrood to capture Kashyyyk before anyone else (if they do that, they'll get Pecatti Syn as a hero), defeat Greater Maldrood without killing Syn, integrate Josef Grunger through minor warlords integration (purely RNG-based), form Dark Empire and progress all the way to Pellaeon

    • @vjisa328
      @vjisa328 Год назад +2

      @@HonestHappyHater I noticed that Tekel, Tigellinus and couple of grand moffs are on Kessel. Can I get both when I conquer Kessel ?

    • @HonestHappyHater
      @HonestHappyHater Год назад +1

      @@vjisa328
      Ok, I've checked a few things.
      As IR you can have Octavian Grant, Pecatti Syn, Mitlin Takel, Rufaan Tigellinus, Afsheen Makati, Josef Grunger, Mitth'raw'nuruodo and Giliad Pellaeon.
      The good news is Grant and Syn are not "warlords", so you can integrate them by letting GM take Kashyyyk and then integrating GM and PA without killing the two admirals.
      The bad news is, Grunger is still 100% RNG.
      The even worse news is that you can't do a grand reunion of the grand admirals, as you can't have them all at once. Rufaan Tigellinus and Mitlin Takel are mutually exclusive with Afsheen Makati. Two first ones are obtainable by deposing Sate Pestage in favor of Trioculus, while the last one will join you if you back Ysanne Isard instead. The only way to get Thrawn is to have him overthrow either Isard or Trioculus (whichever you helped to take control), but Tigellinus will die if Trioculus is deposed.
      To get Pellaeon you need to just form the Dark Empire, get rid of Sidious, get rid of Carnor Jax, get rid of Natasi Daala and you'll get him as grand admiral.
      You'll get the most grand admirals if you back Trioculus against Pestage and form Dark Empire without recalling Thrawn from Unknown Regions, but then you'll be missing out on Thrawn

  • @baron7755
    @baron7755 Год назад +7

    I've always been annoyed at how all the Grand Admirals except Thrawn (and I guess Rae but I dont know much about the new EU) are such utter dolts

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw Год назад +3

      well to keep thrawn unique the writers had to slowly dull out his competition, which i guess makes sense but it just makes them not tht diferent from one off imperial captains in stories

  • @stormtrooper2466
    @stormtrooper2466 Год назад +2

    I still can’t believe that the Rebels would execute Teshik, a political prisoner.

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw Год назад

      i mean why not, if they dont have any use or hes unwilling to cooperate why keep a esentially space nazi high comand alive

  • @empirednw6624
    @empirednw6624 Год назад +1

    Why did zaarin even bother with his coup? All others before his failed like the gentis coup and the trachta coup.

  • @captainmasadoriansilvalexu741
    @captainmasadoriansilvalexu741 Год назад +1

    Excellent

  • @manuelgrothe608
    @manuelgrothe608 Год назад +2

    We need Grand Admiral Demetrius Zarin, Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon, Grand Admiral Nial Declann, Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, Moff Gideon(pre-Mandalorian), Enric Pryde, Barton Coburn, Hux Father/Son, and many more classic OG Trilogy Imperial Leaders In The Bad Batch, Obi Wan Kenobi, Andor, The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, and Ahsoka seasons 2-3 or 4

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 3 месяца назад +1

      No worthless filoni trash, please. That %%%% filoni is the WORST thing that happened to SW, even travissty, abrams and kja are miles better than him :(

  • @the_only_lonely
    @the_only_lonely Год назад +3

    funny thing is, he never was the last grandadmiral

  • @fliplife67
    @fliplife67 Год назад +3

    Hopefully he’s the real deal or the Ahsoka show will not be good.

  • @Lathnor
    @Lathnor Год назад

    What is the background game?

  • @ArcBing
    @ArcBing Год назад +1

    Excellent mid video plug!

  • @auangauthentication958
    @auangauthentication958 Год назад +2

    Hehehehe , Da Duda

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +12

    At least Zaarin made the beaut that is the Legends TIE Defender (sorry not sorry, Disney Alt-universe Thrawn and his nerfed T/D version), which then resulted with the uber-schway King Hell God Starfighter of Death/Missile Boat. Him being a main center of a great Star Wars video game sequel also helps... if only Squadrons had an antagonist/supporting protagonist just like him.
    Shame you didn't mention Teshik's eerily foreboding pre-mortem visions of the past and the future (though I still complain of the apocryphal Second Galactic Civil War being part of the latter).
    If only Batch's research and tech evolved space warfare permanently. The likes of Stealth-Xs being exclusive to Force sensitive Jedi pilots is just a huge waste of potential. (Then again, this may be my anti-Rebel Assault bias showing. Believe me, those games have aged like unpasteurized milk.)
    Woe to the GAs who had to be unfortunate participants in the Jedi Prince books.
    Won't lie, Grant is one underrated motherkriffer out of all the GAs. Pity he didn't go back to the fray in the dark Yuuzhan Vong War.

    • @brunobertossi
      @brunobertossi Год назад +3

      I have so much love for the Rebel Assault games, though when I play Im full on nostalgia goggles. Also the Phantom is my favorite fighter in Star Wars and Star Wars Armada recanonized them a few years ago so im waiting to see them back in canon.

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 Год назад +1

      The whole point of the Stealth x is that id had so many reduced systems that it needed a force sensitive pilot. kinda limits it to jedi

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад

      @@JJJBunney001 That's exactly it. Such a limitation makes it quite lackluster and a bit too biased against Muggle pilots, who also deserve to have specialized craft like this.

  • @nicholasgutierrez9940
    @nicholasgutierrez9940 Год назад +2

    Grand chadmiral Thrawn*

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages Год назад

    👍

  • @TheMock5000
    @TheMock5000 Год назад +1

    Thats disappointing that they were more political than anything

  • @danielescobar4342
    @danielescobar4342 Год назад +1

    Wasny Rax a Grand Admiral in the new canon?

    • @tTaseric
      @tTaseric Год назад

      He was only a Fleet Admiral I believe

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 Год назад

    That was fun

  • @aethertech
    @aethertech Год назад +5

    I hope when (if) they bring Palleon back to shistsney star wars, not just his 5 min holographic 'shadow council' bit, that he is as every bit the Legends version we all love. If not, I wouldn't be surprised...

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 Год назад +4

      he wasnt really a character until well after the thrawn trilogy, he was really just thrawns 2IC and a way for the reader to be bamboozled by thrawns asspulling tactics. so disney hasnt changed or ruined him at all

    • @aethertech
      @aethertech Год назад +1

      found the rebel scum appologist.@@JJJBunney001

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw Год назад

      ignoring the 12 year old rant about didney dumb and you misspelling his name (lmao)
      Gilad Pellaeon was a confused yes man to thrawn in the original triilogy of books
      he served as a representation of the old empire and dumber imperial commanders, most of the times he would say something and thrawn woulld go tsk tsk Pellaeon that strategy is whack you see using my 5 D chess brain im gonna tell you how to lay a better strategy, to Pellaeon being like yes sir
      that and him being on edge and nervous around both Rukh and specially C'baoth insane wizard that constantly threatened to kill both

  • @LordZandersSoapbox4811
    @LordZandersSoapbox4811 Год назад +1

    Oh, I don’t personally care what Disney says about legends and Canon everything made before Disney bought Star Wars from George Lucas is the Star Wars extended universe forever. The crap that they’re making his fan fiction.