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That GRIZZLY thing is a great example of both the worst an online mmo's community can offer, as well as the best. A bunch of randos joining together to fuck over GRIZZLY is heroic
A bit surprised that, especially with the last segment, you didn't talk at all about what happened to Serenity Now after the events of the funeral crashing. They were hunted and killed without mercy while other players in their faction stood aside and clapped. Many players left the guild and moved servers only to be tracked down and reported, with evidence, to the community. Multiple posts on the boards keeping all of this information organized and accessible. One thing that would save anyone involved was apologizing publicly (on the boards) and cutting off the rest of the Guild. It was pretty savage.
On the topic of online funerals. I actually ended up wandering into one on red dead online about a year back, it then concluded with everyone having an all out battle royale
i was there,and i can confidently tell you that even before anyone else wandered into it,the amount of tension in the air was so thick it would erupt simply for someone coughing
Proud to take part of the 10 hour camp to deny Grizzly their Scarab Lord. Our server had 0 lag on Silithus for those that were farming the event, cause all of the rest of us were camping CoT
The Blood Plague was actually one of the coolest unintended gameplay events in the entire game. Even got the attention of the CDC I think on just how actual plagues and viruses spread and how it affects people psyche.
Yep I remember that article. And fast forward to covid and it’s pretty accurate. You either had one extreme where some people went full on panic, isolated themselves completely from society hiding behind their 2-3 masks. Or you had the other extreme where some people couldn’t care less about precautions and even went out of their way infect other people if they got sick. And then majority of us where just caught in the middle wishing things would go back to normal
Also the Warframe community showing up and kneeling in front of the statues in the games relays in honor of Totalbiscuit after his passing. And the countless players of FFXIV lining up as Dark Knight in the games cities after Kentaro Miuras death
I feel like one of the attendees said it best with a simple "She loved PVP" The idea of turning a funeral into PVP would be an ironically wholesome way of honouring her, if Serenity Now just approached them, first, and asked. A lot of people were there to genuinely grieve, even if some people find that silly. Instead, they completely disrespected everyone there.
Yeah it doesn’t matter if it was an in game funeral there’s nothing silly about it, they were honoring a dead person you don’t disrespect the dead in any way, those people that did were being malicious and are actual degenerates and I honestly believe they deserve a special place in hell
The Corrupted Blood incident reminded me of another WoW story caused by pets. There was a raid boss that could cause a debuff that would make a random player explode after 5 seconds; damaging any nearby ally. Unfortunately it could placed on a pet. So the owner would store the pet with the debuff still applied, and bring it back out in a crowded area.
The Angwe story honestly was my favorite because it's really a testament to how MMOs can create wholey unique scenarios that can mimic real life, but also take it to such a logic extreme that it's just so intriguing. In this case, we effectively got to see what happens when neither a serial killer nor his victims can die forever, and how powerful one human's sheer willpower can really be. It's terrifying, impressive, awe inspiring, abd kinda funny, all in one. Just the idea of an orc assassin for the hoard, clocking in each day at the alliance port, hiding in the shadows murdering any low level heroes he can find so that they don't get to take a boat to the other continent and threaten the hoard, buying his own traitorous hypeman, having multiple dozens of high level, prominent guildmembers come to face him and fail, and becoming one of the most praised warriors in the whole of the hoard? That is a damn story. What kinda story depends on the storyteller, but it certainly is a story to be told. A spy thriller about one man single handedly keeping the alliance at bay. A comedy about that one dickhead stabbing people everyday and the guy being paid to praise him. A murder mystery about the high levels trying to even find him. A clinical examination of the facts years later. All stories from this one guy doing this one thing for so long.
@@TheJungaBoon 100% - half the reason I'm not into modern WoW is everything is this world and reality-transcending evil, it's so unfathomably powerful that it loses all meaning. I love the idea of just some dudes fighting a dragon or a big ogre or something, it's so much more grounded so the stakes feel higher weirdly
Not really that impressive since at the time a rogue could just use the perpetual stun lock mechanic to kill anyone they got the drop on. It wasn't even challenging.
@@gear302 The point isn't necessarily what he did..... It's the way a Storyteller can weave a tale (spin a yarn, as they say) allowing different storytellers to weave different versions of this one guys activities. They could weave the stories to make him a hero, a villain, a robin hood stereotype, an everyday assassin, a unique man trained with special abilities and skills. Literally, any type of story these storytellers want, they can weave these deeds into interesting tales. Through embellishments, thru their wording of the stories events, etc. Like he said, it could be a spy story, a chosen one story, an everyday guy fighting the system, or the lone hero saving the hoarde.
Amazes me that people joke about Discord mods being Pedo's because they banned shitty over used Memes yet RUclips has Pedophile's popping up left and right.
Me: Hahh, great day in quaran- RUclips: MiniLadd daddles with kids. Me: What? YT: LuiCalibri has allegations and other factors. Me: Geez, how out of it was I- YT: MLP, remember those? Artisr MandoPony was found guilty of grooming. Me: Wait for it.... YT: Arcadum has been charged with grooming. Me: Damn, they're popping up like relatives after my parents left their house up for grabs.
There was actually a resurgence of another WoW plague like 5 years ago I remember it so well because it was as I was new to the game and thought “Wow what a cool event, really adds some realism to the game” Until I told my friend who was a veteran player, the second I described what happened let out the quietest “oh no”
Weirdly enough, there was an ESO funeral in game once and no one raided it. I think in game guys are so special to people, and everyone of all alliances in game went to peace with one another to come to this ingame funeral. I found that beautiful.
Nah it’s pathetic. It’s a game, not real life. If you cared enough, go to the real funeral. Don’t film some shill game funeral and send it to the family. That’s just creepy AF
I remember when a well-known WoW player passed away long, long ago, and it was reported by a Night Elf player. The first response to it was by a human player who asked "Did he drop any loot?" It was one of those "You have to screencap it to believe it" moments. I don't even know if those posts are still up.
Pretty sure I remember my parents telling me that they and their entire guild spread the plague to everyone they could for the meme, great video babe, cant wait for more of these.
@@gateauxq4604 Bro you realize some people were like in their 20s and in college at the time when WoW released right? I have like 2 classmates named after WoW characters and I'm fucking 22.
Serenity now members are still on the kill on sight list for many PvP guilds. But most of them have quit the game now or changed character names and/or servers.
@@ManyKudos What people call guilds that control all the devilsaur spawns in Un'Goro Crater during phase 1 of vanilla classic WoW because devilsaur set is best in slot for physical dps in phase 1.
@@ManyKudos cross-faction groups that used discord to monopolize a high value item called Devilsaur Leather. any non member would get killed by the opposite faction while the player of you faction would steal your kill.
Hell yes! Never played this game….or even had a game console, but I love your shit. You and “Ordinary Things“ are the best creators I’ve found in YEARS. Both of you are fucking incredible writers!!
They both collaborated with Internet Historian (and I believe Ordinary Things still does collabs amongst Internet Historians different channels. Not sure if ManyKudos still does as well). There's the channels "StoryMode" channel, "Internet Historian: Incognito mode" channel , the original "Internet Historian" channel..... And I believe at least one more Another good creator I found who also collabed wIth these 3 guys (ordinary things, Many Kudos, and Internet Historian) is "Sumito Media". He's a funny dude, especially when he collabs with IH. If you haven't seen Internet Historians different channels or Sumito Medias channel, I would highly recommend checking them out if you like Ordinary things and Many Kudos. All have a sense of humor that just gels, and flows when they Collab. And they all are still hilarious when they're doing their own things. Same sense of humor.
I was in a WoW Scandal. I wish I could remember the guild's name but here's the story as I remember it: It was Cataclysm. I made a Hunter. A max level Alliance Rogue (Can't remember his race) was in X-Roads, ganking lowbies who would get flagged PvP when trying to rez dead high-level players. Apparently He had been doing this for two hours, and a group of max-level Hoardies was hunting for him. Welp, I, having just gotten Frost Trap, plop it on the ground for no real reason. I just wanted to see what it looked like. Well, the stars align and it somehow freezes the Rogue in place. Cute 20-25 Hoard players just descending on him and beating him into a red smear. Welp, the player saw my name just before he was turned into jell-o. And he told his guild about me. Cue the entire guild waiting for me in 1K Needles, where it auto-flags me because contested (My friends only played on PvP servers). I get ganked in about 2 seconds. These people are corpse camping, Spirit Healer camping, and flight master camping. They keep me dead for about 7 hours while I have a trouble ticket open. I finally get a GM message 'It will be taken care of'. Next day, on the WoW forums, there are some people asking where that guild went. The GM banned everyone in the guild to a man.
@@olgagaming5544 If griefing is a banable offense, then you're the only one to blame if you get banned doing it. It's totally reasonable for a game to disallow griefing. If you want to grief, play a different game.
Geez, I'd only ever head about the funeral and plague before. With the latter I remember reading about higher level players basically acting as couriers for low levels since they wouldn't die to it. They'd go into the hubs, buy what the lower lvl player needed, then exit and give them their things...Then there were the griefers and morons who'd go around spreading it to others for shiggles. Truly a display of the highest and lowest humanity has to offer.
I recently binged your entire channel and was saddened when i realized i reached the end. But here you are again! Thank you for the great content mate. Hope you, and everyone who reads this is doing great!
"Long before Blizzard decided human interaction in a multiplayer game was unacceptable." - I mean, pretty much this. I was there for almost all of these scandals. Unfortunately I only had the honor of being killed by an Angwe clone. not the real one.
While this is an on-going schandel, the way that Gamesworkshop got RUclips to take down all Warhammer related content they didn't like to buff up their new channel, Warhammer+
Not aware of anything to do with this scenario until I read this comment, but just out of curiosity, any estimate as to how many videos ended up being removed? Saying "all content that they didn't like" leaves it kinda open ended.
@@BasicPrinciplesGTA It's not particularly "content they didn't like." It's either worse or better than that, depending on your perspective. Basically, they made sure their IP policy states that no one is allowed to make any animations based in GW's IP, unless licensed by GW. So people couldn't make, say, an animation of Space Marines fighting Chaos and upload it to RUclips. At the same time, they introduced Warhammer+, a subscription service where they had animations. Basically, they were shutting down "competition" for their subscription service to try to make sure people would want to sign up for it. It's a shitty thing to do, but kind of par for the course with GW and IP. They've always been messy with it. I still remember in the early 2000s they had a policy that you couldn't use their artwork on a fan site, which would seem fair enough, but then they'd send letters from lawyers to some website owners while at the same time promoting on their website fan sites that blatantly broke those rules, making it clear that they weren't enforcing the rules equally. To say nothing of some amusing oddities like when Andy Chambers was on a mailing list for Battlefleet Gothic and would submit preview rules for people to test, which GW wanted taken down because later they'd wind up in White Dwarf (albeit tweaked per the feedback he'd get). But the thing is... they were available on the Internet first, not through White Dwarf. Which made them have to back off on that (though I imagine they weren't happy with Andy... even though we loved him on the list for being open and willing to talk to the fans, something GW developers did in the late '90s and early '00s but that you'd never see out of what the company's turned into). I'll just wrap up there... I could rant a lot on GW, between personal experience and seeing them pull so much goofy crap (trying to sue the author of "Spot the Space Marine" for using the term "Space Marine"; their failed lawsuit against Chapter House which did cost CH enough money to make them go bankrupt; the renaming of several races to be able to trademark generic fantasy tropes they wouldn't otherwise own a trademark for; and so much more).
A story from my Classic server Gandling EU was when an Alliance guild called AIM decided not to honour their promise to turn in certain items needed for the AQ war effort so that they could control the opening time. This led to the entire Horde taking over all of Ironforge so that we could kill the turn in NPCs all night until the next day so people could actually enjoy the 10 hour war. We also ended up having a huge Twitch rave there with Loeloe. Definitely up there with my favourite WoW memories!
Are we gonna talk about that “modeling infectious diseases dissemination through online role-playing games paper” article metrics mentioning having 276 readers on xHamster I’m all for paper reviewed literature, but I didn’t know xHamster did much besides well….porn
Fun fact: One of the people who was lucky enough to ring a gong on a server was Luke Smith, who now works for bungie as the game director for Destiny 2
I remember walking around in Orgrimmar and wondering why there were skeletons all over the place. I didn't know anything about zul gurub or the plague at the time (yes, i was a noob back then). I only realised it years later. Still, it is cool to have been a part of (and surviving) such a memorable event in wows history. And it also makes me feel kind of old.
Watching this in a packed steakhouse with George Strait playing at full volume and somebody’s dumbass kid screeching somewhere on the other side of the room, this is the quintessential manykudos viewing experience
It's funny what 15 years and growing up can do to you. When I was young, I laughed at the funeral video. Now, earlier this year, I attended my friend of 20 year's funeral on WoW. Now I can't imagine how painful this was for those people who were close to the victim. I wasn't in some video-game funeral. That was all we had to say good bye to our friend, and I was in real grief during that little cartoon funeral. I already can never forget it, as my friend's mother and all our friends were there, saying goodbye. If someone had come in and murdered his toon in the middle of it.... It would have really, really messed me up. This probably really hurt.
The Debuff Plague is genuinely really interesting, the idea of WoW being a good simulation for how real life pandemics spread is intriguing. I love game systems like this, like the Helminth Cyst in Warframe.
The memorial reminds me of a similar event happening in the mmofps called Planetside. A player died from health issues and his Company (Guild) held a memorial in game and hundreds of players from all 3 sides pressed F to pay respects. It went great until a group of griefers used stealth bombers to wipe out most of people in attendance . I think they ended up getting banned but I can't remember.
Holy shit, I'm glad I found your channel so early on. You're making some of the funniest and informative content that I've seen recently. Much luck to you and Im excited to see what the future holds for your channel.
15:11 The sheer amount of those folks gathering together to take vengeance on douche behaviour all these years ago is absolutely astonishing. There aren't even that many people playing the game anymore!
The final segment on the Scepter Quest remidns me of how many great stories came out of it. Highly recommend looking up Barny64 and watching their series on the event in WoW Classic. I won't spoil but I think the second episode is probably the best for seeing just what can happen when MMO players on a roleplay server decide to use the RP actor to a major advantage in a time like this.
Honestly, denying a bunch of assholes the fruits of their underhanded behavior is far more valuable and memorable than a guildie or 3 getting a mount that's rare but serves no special function. I remember how upset I was when I failed to finish the chain and ring the gong back in the day, but I completed it on a private server years later and it just wasn't fulfilling. The prestige of doing it before the game had been cut to pieces with min maxing and theorycrafting for a decade and a half is no longer attainable.
Man, I visited too many online funerals in FF XIV, its usually guild or a community members when covid spiked in my country. Not one is bad, everyone is respectful, guess its the matter of community.
@@bingobongo1615yeah, the biggest tell is that kudos said "what do you expect?" And the amount of comments unironically insulting the people who organized the funeral and/or praising the griefers. Like damn, wow was (and I'm guessing still is, given the amount of people insulting the mourners) such a cesspit that expecting the absolute bare minimum (not to interrupt a god damn funeral) is seen as dumb and worthy of ridicule? Ruining a funeral is seen as a funny-haha rather than pure cruelty? Glad I didn't ever get into wow lol
In Runescape back in 2005, I was in the strongest pvp clan name Damage Inc. We had a clan member die irl after she had broke ribs and later had a fall where one of her ribs punctured her heart and passed. We held memorial for her but someone made a webpage with a downloadable keylogger and hacked around 50 high level members.
Honestly, every grizzly player that used the report function should have been banned for a year. Imagine the horde players that didn't get unbanned and have to wait a week.
The funny thing about the WoW plague is that it was entirely foreshadowed. Living Bomb was a spell from Molten Core was utilized the _exact_ same way to get people in towns. The only difference is that it was a one shot wonder and didn't have any lingering affects. The devs should have known better when ZG was made.
I remember way back in the 2000s when a player died irl and his relative announced his passing in the forums. First comment asked if he dropped any good loot.
We had a Funeral for a Guy on our server of LOTRO , he was the usual 'Good guys' (freeps - free peoples) leader in the PVP area , and we set it in the centre of the map , both freep's and creep's showed up and we had a proper damn funeral , no one did shit (as doing so would have seen you banished from the tight knit community that is lotro) we even had the family of the guy (i think he was like 22y when he passed) come in and thanked us and said a few things , it was great. And in honour of him we all went to the Hobbit village and lined up freeps on one side .... creeps on the other ..... 2 massive lines facing each other , then we charged into battle. Id only gotten 3 hits off before our charge had crashed the whole server , and was down for an hour or so lol
I remember there was a blood plague incident on my server a few years ago, people flying around stormwind giving the plague to everyone, i more or less just got a gryphon to the top of the continent and called it a day
The Tauren couldn't understand what was being said by the Alliance at the funeral. We didn't have that ability until elixir of tongues was added in 2018. While it was in beta, the elixir didn't make it into the release. It's pure coincidence. Clearly the Tauren was more switched on than the other attendees, although it did him no good.
I came up with a smaller scale version of what Angwe did on my own in Classic. I love the Syndicate faction in WoW, so I went out of my way to actually raise my rep with them on my human rogue, Sedsyndicate on Whitemane. Long story short, I did it. Then I proceeded to camp Stromgarde, an area where not only were there Syndicate npcs to back me up in fights... _but elite Syndicate npcs._ Any horde who tried to come in for quests would almost always die. I learned many tricks and shortcuts for surprising players and getting over and around walls over time. But because I couldn't stop Alliance members from killing the Syndicate npc's, I instead offered a different service to them. Kiting. See, since all the Syndicate member in Stromgarde are elite in vanilla classic, it can take quite a while to get through them all if you're leveling, even with friends and party members. Since I'm neutral with the Syndicate, I can walk straight past all of them, go all the way inside the keep and kite out Falconcrest and his bodyguard Otto. Wouldn't you know it, they do not share in the actual Syndicate reputation. So I can still aggro them and bring them all the way down to the entrance for lowbie Alliance, skipping fifteen or so elite mobs and saving significant amounts of time for other people who need to do the quest. I've been called "the hero we didn't know we needed" and seen people say "this is the most fun I've had in classic tbh. I've just been mindlessly aoe grinding up until now". I only wish I had others to help me do this. But alas, the time has passed. Burning Crusade Classic came, nerfed all the Syndicate npc's into normal one's, basically eliminating my fun, niche little purpose. And now Vanilla Classic is all but abandoned. So I can't go back, even with the clone character I made. Still, I have my memories and screenshots. So at least it wasn't a total waste.
" Wasn't added until Warlords of Draenor. " You making fun of that shit, but I'm still waiting for WoD classic so I can once again fight on that fun PvP island as an overpowered 2h Frost death knight that can skull rape anything but a Holy paladin, or a good Survival / MM / BM Hunter ( Because during that, ALL HUNTERS WERE GOOD AT PVP AND SURVIVAL WAS BASICALLY SUPER AFFLICTION WITH INSTANT CAST. ) - so, I miss it. I would level five level 100s again. A hunter, a DK, a paladin, a rogue and of course... a warlock because that was also when warlocks could literally stack life steal on everyone around them without it being canceled on your last target, meaning you could turn a mob of enemy players into you being a mini-boss without using the artifact... and with the artifact, your DoTs killed faster than Hakkar's Blood on a low level player. I miss that stuff. Yes, people hid in their garrisons a ton, but... you gonna act like that isn't what people do just standing in the city capital and talking in Trade..? I just miss it... the expression of not knowing what you had until it's gone is true. I miss garrisons, I miss the awesome raids and I miss the PvP back then that had so many viable classes. Shadowlands? Warlock and Boomkin or you're fucked.
I remember that funeral one. I believe Serenity had to disband and several members spent the rest of the wow careers hopping servers because people would hunt them down. Which, is well deserved.
Blizzard's best F2P currently is SC2 coop chat. It goes like this: You write something random religion related, then you play a game of SC2 coop and when you return the chat will have gone completely nuts. RUclips is a bit too echo chambery to reliably provide this, here one side will just dogpile the other until they delete their comments.
Man, the insanity of vanilla WoW is something that had to be experienced to be truly believed. Its so true what you said regarding every server being full of memorable players and villians. I have stories from my time with the game that will stay with me forever. Just like Angwe I've had to put MMOs away and move on with my life but god does that vein of nostalgia run deep in my heart. Where my Shadow Council friends at?
the "nice day for a memorial" comment wouldn't have been readable to the Tauren, that player was a night elf. You know back then they couldn't talk to each other.
I played on the same server as GRIZZLY. Our guild had a blacklist of players that we shouldn't do dungeons with, and the vast majority of them were GRIZZLY members.
I play on Herod USA (horde) and, when the AQ event was going on, the biggest guild at the time on the server, called , threatened to keep the whole gate opening event "hostage" for a long time: they wanted to be the "world first ever" guild to have all 40 core raiders of the main raid team with a scarab lord mount. ...Thankfully, after days and days of discord calls between the whole "coalition" (aka the Guild Masters & officers of the major guilds on the server) we managed to convince em to...ya know...not do that!
“Did you think we had forgotten? Did you think we had forgiven? Behold, now, the terrible vengeance of the Forsaken! Death to the Scourge! And death to the living!” Will never forget this point. Storyline went downhill rapidly from this moment onward.
normie companies: bans you instantly for cheating blizzard: not yet.. not yet.. not yet.. BAM! you and your friends wanna play together right? you've seen the upcoming expansion right? come on, you just hit level 60 remember? come on, this is like the peak of your game! come on! buy an extra key ;) 10% limited discount uwu~
I remember my dad (Malthar) being so pissed about the corrupted blood thing. i was 10 and had been playing for 2 years at that point, my dad actually didn't let me play at the time b/c my characters were low level. though one time i did get on only to discover i was in stormwind, died instantly, didn't play for some time after that
One thing to note however is that "good" seemingly triumphed in the end. Angwe realized that he was a fucking loser and decided to do something with his life, and GRIZZLY couldn't even get their titles due to a bunch of horde players banning together to hold them off. That is actually really insane, and heartwarming. Also while not super great, the funeral is still talked about here and there today. So she is still remembered, which counts for something.
@@zipp4910 Another thing worth noting. After the funeral stunt, Serenity Now's name was fucking dirt, and everyone teamed up to destroy them full time.
That Classic Ahn'Qiraj story has nothing on what went on in servers that opened post-launch, but pre-Cata. There were a lot of guilds who would have someone with a toon that had already met the requirements to ring the gong do a character transfer, and then do the event at a time that would be extremely awkward for most players to join in (e.g during working hours, or very early in the morning) just to stop other guilds from getting the AQ War rewards.
You only got part of the Grizzly story out, there was way more details left out or you didnt know about. Still good video and any chance to dunk on Grizzly is a win in my book.
the funny thing is that most of them don't even notice what a nonsense blizzard has done. Blizzard punishes people who are creative and play their game. instead of letting these people play, you ban them and give them a certain way of playing their game. It's like at South Park where the kids played the game for months to finish off one player and then in the end it says, now we can play the game. The answer is but you have played the game the whole time and have probably had the best experience ever, because it fell out of the ordinary and did not go as Blizzard had in mind.
Oh my god I'm crying! This is only the third video I'm watching from you, having just discovered your channel through recommendations, and I'm having so much fun. When you alluded to the funeral in the other video I was intrigued to look it up, but now I know the story and it's hilarious, I couldn't keep a straight face during that part and there's still the rest of the video to go. Thank you for quality content! Love your style of humour.
I mean were I to ever die and have a funeral in a mmo I would be offended if it was not a team deathmatch between people who thought I was cool and the people that for some reason or other really hated me. A video game funeral that doesn't involve any fun combat in that video game? What's even the point.
about the funeral.. you forgot one thing, Faye enjoyed PvP and most likely would have loved the whole interaction as an event, it quite possibly could have been the best send off anyone could ask for in WoW.
On Tichondrius there was a massive war over the AQ launch. We had to sneak the shark boss in the middle of the night, and the guy in Duskwood had horde guards 24/7 watching and suiciding lvl 1's into him whenever we tried to kill it making him stronger and impossible to kill. Eventually we put together several raids intending to just zerg it down and crashed the server. The guild running it then dispatched messengers to run between the vent servers of the different raids to coordinate logging off and back on and moving in waves. It took a few rotations around between the different raids but we eventually brought it down. Vanilla was great.
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kinda surprising this is only 577 views rn
Smash Brothers has a pretty rich history of scandals and controversies, even excluding... well... you know what
The GRIZZLY fiasco was one of my favorite parts of Classic. The passion of these nerds knows no bounds.
Professor! What a plesure.
The players in Classic even managed to min/max the drama, it's impressive. Love your lore videos man!
Sadly other alliance guilds suffered due to Grizzly and missed out on getting their scarab lords too. 4 I believe. Big sad.
Hey. Love your videos! Keep up the good content, Platinum!
"passion"
That GRIZZLY thing is a great example of both the worst an online mmo's community can offer, as well as the best. A bunch of randos joining together to fuck over GRIZZLY is heroic
A real “they want war? We’ll give em war!” Moment.
To be honest if I played the game I would be an instigator in that grizzly fiasco. 😂 love the chaos.
Rip to all the alliance players that weren't involved LOL
@@Jempaigrizzly did contribute 98% of the resources by hoarding it all, so they wouldn't have gotten it anyway.
A bit surprised that, especially with the last segment, you didn't talk at all about what happened to Serenity Now after the events of the funeral crashing. They were hunted and killed without mercy while other players in their faction stood aside and clapped. Many players left the guild and moved servers only to be tracked down and reported, with evidence, to the community. Multiple posts on the boards keeping all of this information organized and accessible. One thing that would save anyone involved was apologizing publicly (on the boards) and cutting off the rest of the Guild. It was pretty savage.
This is the first time I've heard that they actually suffered repercussions for their actions. Interesting
Holy shit
good, video game or not that was a funeral for their friend so honestly makes sense.
makes me imagine those weird stories of rich people having human hunting grounds but it's WoW and with griefers lmfao
This is the silliest justice I've heard of
Ah yes, I've never played World of Warcraft yet I'm addicted to these video talking about everything wrong with it.
Me too, kid
I've also spent the last year watching videos of why WoW sucks more than actually playing it lmao
@@SomeCrusader Oi who you calling kid, Wizard 101 was my MMO of choice
Same
Same but with Smash Bros, specially Melee.
On the topic of online funerals. I actually ended up wandering into one on red dead online about a year back, it then concluded with everyone having an all out battle royale
As you do in the ol' wild west
I thought hosting a funeral in WoW was asking for trouble, doing one in Red Dead Online is genuinely masochistic
Just like in the wild west
@@ManyKudos seeing as im the one of 3 people still playing the game, doing anything in it is masochistic
i was there,and i can confidently tell you that even before anyone else wandered into it,the amount of tension in the air was so thick it would erupt simply for someone coughing
Proud to take part of the 10 hour camp to deny Grizzly their Scarab Lord. Our server had 0 lag on Silithus for those that were farming the event, cause all of the rest of us were camping CoT
LEGEND
The Blood Plague was actually one of the coolest unintended gameplay events in the entire game. Even got the attention of the CDC I think on just how actual plagues and viruses spread and how it affects people psyche.
Which explains much of their behavior during covid.
Blood Plague is one of my favorite incidents of gaming.
@@leitmotif7268 not really. Having actual no real repercussion makes people act even more dangerous and shitty in-game vs real life.
Yep I remember that article. And fast forward to covid and it’s pretty accurate. You either had one extreme where some people went full on panic, isolated themselves completely from society hiding behind their 2-3 masks. Or you had the other extreme where some people couldn’t care less about precautions and even went out of their way infect other people if they got sick. And then majority of us where just caught in the middle wishing things would go back to normal
@@TheLouHam You dont remember all those people saying Covid was a hoax and going to covid parties to prove it...and dying lol
* Mentions the absurdity of an online funeral *
*Sighs as the shotgun salutes pay respects to Rick May, TF2’s Soldier’s voice actor. Rest In Peace*
RIP TO A KING
Further proof the TF2 community's usually there to just have a good time and wear silly hats.
Also the Warframe community showing up and kneeling in front of the statues in the games relays in honor of Totalbiscuit after his passing.
And the countless players of FFXIV lining up as Dark Knight in the games cities after Kentaro Miuras death
@@gratuitouslurking8610 you must be new to the community.
REST IN PEACE RICK MAY
I feel like one of the attendees said it best with a simple "She loved PVP"
The idea of turning a funeral into PVP would be an ironically wholesome way of honouring her, if Serenity Now just approached them, first, and asked. A lot of people were there to genuinely grieve, even if some people find that silly. Instead, they completely disrespected everyone there.
Oh well get fkd
Yeah it doesn’t matter if it was an in game funeral there’s nothing silly about it, they were honoring a dead person you don’t disrespect the dead in any way, those people that did were being malicious and are actual degenerates and I honestly believe they deserve a special place in hell
Why don't you cry about it?
LOL still salty
axhed and coffeebot just being losers because they know no one will be mourning their disposals.
The Corrupted Blood incident reminded me of another WoW story caused by pets. There was a raid boss that could cause a debuff that would make a random player explode after 5 seconds; damaging any nearby ally. Unfortunately it could placed on a pet. So the owner would store the pet with the debuff still applied, and bring it back out in a crowded area.
Probably from the dance off in Naxxramus
Sounds like Living Bomb from Geddon
Unfortunately???
The Angwe story honestly was my favorite because it's really a testament to how MMOs can create wholey unique scenarios that can mimic real life, but also take it to such a logic extreme that it's just so intriguing. In this case, we effectively got to see what happens when neither a serial killer nor his victims can die forever, and how powerful one human's sheer willpower can really be.
It's terrifying, impressive, awe inspiring, abd kinda funny, all in one. Just the idea of an orc assassin for the hoard, clocking in each day at the alliance port, hiding in the shadows murdering any low level heroes he can find so that they don't get to take a boat to the other continent and threaten the hoard, buying his own traitorous hypeman, having multiple dozens of high level, prominent guildmembers come to face him and fail, and becoming one of the most praised warriors in the whole of the hoard?
That is a damn story. What kinda story depends on the storyteller, but it certainly is a story to be told. A spy thriller about one man single handedly keeping the alliance at bay. A comedy about that one dickhead stabbing people everyday and the guy being paid to praise him. A murder mystery about the high levels trying to even find him. A clinical examination of the facts years later.
All stories from this one guy doing this one thing for so long.
I love your interpretation!
More fantasy stories should try smaller-scale things like this instead of always being world-ending prophecies.
@@TheJungaBoon 100% - half the reason I'm not into modern WoW is everything is this world and reality-transcending evil, it's so unfathomably powerful that it loses all meaning. I love the idea of just some dudes fighting a dragon or a big ogre or something, it's so much more grounded so the stakes feel higher weirdly
Not really that impressive since at the time a rogue could just use the perpetual stun lock mechanic to kill anyone they got the drop on. It wasn't even challenging.
@@gear302 The point isn't necessarily what he did..... It's the way a Storyteller can weave a tale (spin a yarn, as they say) allowing different storytellers to weave different versions of this one guys activities.
They could weave the stories to make him a hero, a villain, a robin hood stereotype, an everyday assassin, a unique man trained with special abilities and skills.
Literally, any type of story these storytellers want, they can weave these deeds into interesting tales. Through embellishments, thru their wording of the stories events, etc.
Like he said, it could be a spy story, a chosen one story, an everyday guy fighting the system, or the lone hero saving the hoarde.
“Of course, this is like telling a big RUclipsr to stop messaging 16 year old girls” underrated af joke
More like 15 year olds
@@kankeydong2500 More like 14 year olds
Amazes me that people joke about Discord mods being Pedo's because they banned shitty over used Memes yet RUclips has Pedophile's popping up left and right.
Bartender: How about a nice 12 year old?
RUclipsr: Boy or girl?
Bartender: Whiskey.
Me: Hahh, great day in quaran-
RUclips: MiniLadd daddles with kids.
Me: What?
YT: LuiCalibri has allegations and other factors.
Me: Geez, how out of it was I-
YT: MLP, remember those? Artisr MandoPony was found guilty of grooming.
Me: Wait for it....
YT: Arcadum has been charged with grooming.
Me: Damn, they're popping up like relatives after my parents left their house up for grabs.
There was actually a resurgence of another WoW plague like 5 years ago
I remember it so well because it was as I was new to the game and thought
“Wow what a cool event, really adds some realism to the game”
Until I told my friend who was a veteran player, the second I described what happened let out the quietest “oh no”
Weirdly enough, there was an ESO funeral in game once and no one raided it. I think in game guys are so special to people, and everyone of all alliances in game went to peace with one another to come to this ingame funeral. I found that beautiful.
In a pvp server?
Something about this statement doesn't add up. I play ESO and the only pvp area is cyrodil. I doubt a funeral was held there.
They definitely didn't hold that service in Cyrodiil. I definitely would of jumping on my Stamblade and gank the hairline off a few of them
@@pyktkmrge I remember in NA xbox server someone tried to host a funeral in cryodil and someone from DC grief it with a bomber
Nah it’s pathetic. It’s a game, not real life. If you cared enough, go to the real funeral. Don’t film some shill game funeral and send it to the family. That’s just creepy AF
I remember when a well-known WoW player passed away long, long ago, and it was reported by a Night Elf player. The first response to it was by a human player who asked "Did he drop any loot?" It was one of those "You have to screencap it to believe it" moments. I don't even know if those posts are still up.
Lol I remember that screenshot
Pretty sure I remember my parents telling me that they and their entire guild spread the plague to everyone they could for the meme, great video babe, cant wait for more of these.
I hope you're talking about in World of Warcraft
I wish my parents were that cool
‘my parents’ *HOW OLD ARE YOU* 😳
@@gateauxq4604 I mean if you had a kid when wow released they'd be 17 next month
@@gateauxq4604 Bro you realize some people were like in their 20s and in college at the time when WoW released right? I have like 2 classmates named after WoW characters and I'm fucking 22.
Serenity now members are still on the kill on sight list for many PvP guilds. But most of them have quit the game now or changed character names and/or servers.
That's largely a community myth.
The Scarab Lord and Devilsaur Mafia drama was my favorite thing I've experienced while playing classic WoW.
Devilsaur Mafia?
@@ManyKudos What people call guilds that control all the devilsaur spawns in Un'Goro Crater during phase 1 of vanilla classic WoW because devilsaur set is best in slot for physical dps in phase 1.
@@ManyKudos cross-faction groups that used discord to monopolize a high value item called Devilsaur Leather. any non member would get killed by the opposite faction while the player of you faction would steal your kill.
@@xezberzs96 Bruh that's amazing hahaha I had no idea, that'll be going in a part 2 if I do one
@@ManyKudos I didn't play during actual Vanilla but the devilsaur mafia was going on on Nostalrius as well, long before Classic
Fun fact, the Hakkar plague is now a card back in hearthstone. The way you get it for the collection is to face someone with the card back active
This video is just WoW, so great
The video is 16 min long no way in hell you finished it that fast
@@millyfilly8111 it’s a joke because WoW stands for World of Warcraft when Spelled like I did
Such WoW, much funny
@@Desertedhail oh i just r/woosh-ed myself nice joke tho!
This is an awful pun I hate you
Hell yes!
Never played this game….or even had a game console, but I love your shit.
You and “Ordinary Things“ are the best creators I’ve found in YEARS.
Both of you are fucking incredible writers!!
Appreciate that king, Ordinary Things is a great friend and a huge inspiration, that dude could write his way out of a bear trap
They both collaborated with Internet Historian (and I believe Ordinary Things still does collabs amongst Internet Historians different channels. Not sure if ManyKudos still does as well).
There's the channels "StoryMode" channel, "Internet Historian: Incognito mode" channel , the original "Internet Historian" channel..... And I believe at least one more
Another good creator I found who also collabed wIth these 3 guys (ordinary things, Many Kudos, and Internet Historian) is "Sumito Media".
He's a funny dude, especially when he collabs with IH.
If you haven't seen Internet Historians different channels or Sumito Medias channel, I would highly recommend checking them out if you like Ordinary things and Many Kudos.
All have a sense of humor that just gels, and flows when they Collab. And they all are still hilarious when they're doing their own things. Same sense of humor.
Go buy a game ffs
Is wow even on consoles?
I was in a WoW Scandal. I wish I could remember the guild's name but here's the story as I remember it:
It was Cataclysm. I made a Hunter. A max level Alliance Rogue (Can't remember his race) was in X-Roads, ganking lowbies who would get flagged PvP when trying to rez dead high-level players.
Apparently He had been doing this for two hours, and a group of max-level Hoardies was hunting for him.
Welp, I, having just gotten Frost Trap, plop it on the ground for no real reason. I just wanted to see what it looked like. Well, the stars align and it somehow freezes the Rogue in place.
Cute 20-25 Hoard players just descending on him and beating him into a red smear.
Welp, the player saw my name just before he was turned into jell-o. And he told his guild about me.
Cue the entire guild waiting for me in 1K Needles, where it auto-flags me because contested (My friends only played on PvP servers). I get ganked in about 2 seconds.
These people are corpse camping, Spirit Healer camping, and flight master camping. They keep me dead for about 7 hours while I have a trouble ticket open.
I finally get a GM message 'It will be taken care of'.
Next day, on the WoW forums, there are some people asking where that guild went.
The GM banned everyone in the guild to a man.
That guild's name? Albert Einstein.
@@pointeaxis its _redacted_
Found the typical REPORT guy who reports anyone if getting griefed
now, you get rid of a full guild of people who played wow a lot etc. and was doing epic things etc., i hate such weaklings
@@olgagaming5544 If griefing is a banable offense, then you're the only one to blame if you get banned doing it. It's totally reasonable for a game to disallow griefing. If you want to grief, play a different game.
Geez, I'd only ever head about the funeral and plague before. With the latter I remember reading about higher level players basically acting as couriers for low levels since they wouldn't die to it. They'd go into the hubs, buy what the lower lvl player needed, then exit and give them their things...Then there were the griefers and morons who'd go around spreading it to others for shiggles. Truly a display of the highest and lowest humanity has to offer.
I recently binged your entire channel and was saddened when i realized i reached the end. But here you are again! Thank you for the great content mate. Hope you, and everyone who reads this is doing great!
Cheers Mr Dub, your comment is a massive W
I currently about to binge this channel, just found it.
"Long before Blizzard decided human interaction in a multiplayer game was unacceptable." - I mean, pretty much this. I was there for almost all of these scandals. Unfortunately I only had the honor of being killed by an Angwe clone. not the real one.
While this is an on-going schandel, the way that Gamesworkshop got RUclips to take down all Warhammer related content they didn't like to buff up their new channel, Warhammer+
I heard about this! Warhammer would be a great video!
Not aware of anything to do with this scenario until I read this comment, but just out of curiosity, any estimate as to how many videos ended up being removed? Saying "all content that they didn't like" leaves it kinda open ended.
@@BasicPrinciplesGTA there's plenty of content on it, I would look yourself.
@@BasicPrinciplesGTA It's not particularly "content they didn't like." It's either worse or better than that, depending on your perspective. Basically, they made sure their IP policy states that no one is allowed to make any animations based in GW's IP, unless licensed by GW. So people couldn't make, say, an animation of Space Marines fighting Chaos and upload it to RUclips. At the same time, they introduced Warhammer+, a subscription service where they had animations. Basically, they were shutting down "competition" for their subscription service to try to make sure people would want to sign up for it.
It's a shitty thing to do, but kind of par for the course with GW and IP. They've always been messy with it. I still remember in the early 2000s they had a policy that you couldn't use their artwork on a fan site, which would seem fair enough, but then they'd send letters from lawyers to some website owners while at the same time promoting on their website fan sites that blatantly broke those rules, making it clear that they weren't enforcing the rules equally. To say nothing of some amusing oddities like when Andy Chambers was on a mailing list for Battlefleet Gothic and would submit preview rules for people to test, which GW wanted taken down because later they'd wind up in White Dwarf (albeit tweaked per the feedback he'd get). But the thing is... they were available on the Internet first, not through White Dwarf. Which made them have to back off on that (though I imagine they weren't happy with Andy... even though we loved him on the list for being open and willing to talk to the fans, something GW developers did in the late '90s and early '00s but that you'd never see out of what the company's turned into).
I'll just wrap up there... I could rant a lot on GW, between personal experience and seeing them pull so much goofy crap (trying to sue the author of "Spot the Space Marine" for using the term "Space Marine"; their failed lawsuit against Chapter House which did cost CH enough money to make them go bankrupt; the renaming of several races to be able to trademark generic fantasy tropes they wouldn't otherwise own a trademark for; and so much more).
On-going scandal sums up GW pretty nicely
A story from my Classic server Gandling EU was when an Alliance guild called AIM decided not to honour their promise to turn in certain items needed for the AQ war effort so that they could control the opening time. This led to the entire Horde taking over all of Ironforge so that we could kill the turn in NPCs all night until the next day so people could actually enjoy the 10 hour war. We also ended up having a huge Twitch rave there with Loeloe. Definitely up there with my favourite WoW memories!
ruclips.net/video/SNFZ_Nr8lqU/видео.html the link for anyone interested!
Are we gonna talk about that “modeling infectious diseases dissemination through online role-playing games paper” article metrics mentioning having 276 readers on xHamster
I’m all for paper reviewed literature, but I didn’t know xHamster did much besides well….porn
Broke: Post Nut Clarity
Woke: Post Nut Research And Development
Morning
It's how I found a group for M+ in retail.
“Nice day for a memorial.”
“Why you say dat?”
that funeral post was so innocent, the smiley face was so cute
how naive early internet was
I'm genuinely so upset I was never greasy enough to play WoW back in the day...
It's never too late to lather yourself! Although maybe play FFXIV instead
you definitely missed out bud,
It was an interesting time.
Private servers are always an option.
Yeah same, I dind't even know WoW existed back then.
Missed out a lot of stuff
@@strawberrybleach7715 at least I got to experience MW2 at its peak I guess
Fun fact: One of the people who was lucky enough to ring a gong on a server was Luke Smith, who now works for bungie as the game director for Destiny 2
Now he's ringing the gong in space as he pops his solar hammer.
I remember walking around in Orgrimmar and wondering why there were skeletons all over the place. I didn't know anything about zul gurub or the plague at the time (yes, i was a noob back then). I only realised it years later. Still, it is cool to have been a part of (and surviving) such a memorable event in wows history. And it also makes me feel kind of old.
Watching this in a packed steakhouse with George Strait playing at full volume and somebody’s dumbass kid screeching somewhere on the other side of the room, this is the quintessential manykudos viewing experience
Beat that kid, he had it coming.
What'd you get to eat?
You absolute chad
@@JG_Wentworth ribeye steak cooked rare like a real man
@@Thunderchicken69 a man who watches nerdy videos while partaking in a social gathering. What a man.
It's funny what 15 years and growing up can do to you. When I was young, I laughed at the funeral video.
Now, earlier this year, I attended my friend of 20 year's funeral on WoW. Now I can't imagine how painful this was for those people who were close to the victim. I wasn't in some video-game funeral. That was all we had to say good bye to our friend, and I was in real grief during that little cartoon funeral. I already can never forget it, as my friend's mother and all our friends were there, saying goodbye. If someone had come in and murdered his toon in the middle of it.... It would have really, really messed me up.
This probably really hurt.
Yeah all I take from this video is that the WoW community really had a lot of people with deep personal issues.
Nothing here was funny…
@@bingobongo1615 What do you expect from terminally online basement dwellers lol
Never played wow, but this was a very interesting video to watch.
When I made this I hoped that even non-fans could enjoy it, so I'm glad it worked!
@@ManyKudos Yeah totally! I've always enjoyed your content regardless of topic because of your presenting style and sense of humour.
The Debuff Plague is genuinely really interesting, the idea of WoW being a good simulation for how real life pandemics spread is intriguing. I love game systems like this, like the Helminth Cyst in Warframe.
“She enjoyed the snow, and the common sound of-“ *Interrupted by a snickers advertisement*
The memorial reminds me of a similar event happening in the mmofps called Planetside. A player died from health issues and his Company (Guild) held a memorial in game and hundreds of players from all 3 sides pressed F to pay respects. It went great until a group of griefers used stealth bombers to wipe out most of people in attendance . I think they ended up getting banned but I can't remember.
Don’t forget the biggest scandal of them all, the treatment at Blizzard, with their very own employees
Par for the course in industry, unfortunately. Riot had a very similar lawsuit before Blizzard.
Holy shit, I'm glad I found your channel so early on. You're making some of the funniest and informative content that I've seen recently. Much luck to you and Im excited to see what the future holds for your channel.
Thank you king, I'm lucky to have had people like you early on!
Serenity now...insanity later!
15:11
The sheer amount of those folks gathering together to take vengeance on douche behaviour all these years ago is absolutely astonishing.
There aren't even that many people playing the game anymore!
The final segment on the Scepter Quest remidns me of how many great stories came out of it. Highly recommend looking up Barny64 and watching their series on the event in WoW Classic. I won't spoil but I think the second episode is probably the best for seeing just what can happen when MMO players on a roleplay server decide to use the RP actor to a major advantage in a time like this.
Honestly, denying a bunch of assholes the fruits of their underhanded behavior is far more valuable and memorable than a guildie or 3 getting a mount that's rare but serves no special function.
I remember how upset I was when I failed to finish the chain and ring the gong back in the day, but I completed it on a private server years later and it just wasn't fulfilling. The prestige of doing it before the game had been cut to pieces with min maxing and theorycrafting for a decade and a half is no longer attainable.
I love online MMO and RPGs stories like these. I find them fascinating and hilarious.
Man, I visited too many online funerals in FF XIV, its usually guild or a community members when covid spiked in my country. Not one is bad, everyone is respectful, guess its the matter of community.
WoW community was horrendous
@@bingobongo1615yeah, the biggest tell is that kudos said "what do you expect?" And the amount of comments unironically insulting the people who organized the funeral and/or praising the griefers.
Like damn, wow was (and I'm guessing still is, given the amount of people insulting the mourners) such a cesspit that expecting the absolute bare minimum (not to interrupt a god damn funeral) is seen as dumb and worthy of ridicule? Ruining a funeral is seen as a funny-haha rather than pure cruelty? Glad I didn't ever get into wow lol
In Runescape back in 2005, I was in the strongest pvp clan name Damage Inc. We had a clan member die irl after she had broke ribs and later had a fall where one of her ribs punctured her heart and passed. We held memorial for her but someone made a webpage with a downloadable keylogger and hacked around 50 high level members.
Honestly, every grizzly player that used the report function should have been banned for a year.
Imagine the horde players that didn't get unbanned and have to wait a week.
This channel needs to be a 1millon sub channel tbh.
I'm not sure if I want him to get millions of subs or remain a hidden gem TBH
The guys online funeral turned into an event that is remembered over a decade later. I'd say that's a pretty awesome thing honestly.
A real world funeral could be made pretty memorable if a brawl broke out. Does that make it okay?
@@MireVale This wasnt a real world funeral...
@@joshburns969 a person died.
@@MireVale a person died everyday
@@Revist92 no shit
The funny thing about the WoW plague is that it was entirely foreshadowed. Living Bomb was a spell from Molten Core was utilized the _exact_ same way to get people in towns. The only difference is that it was a one shot wonder and didn't have any lingering affects. The devs should have known better when ZG was made.
Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
WoW controversies video: 16 minutes
Blizzard controversies video: 16 hours
I remember way back in the 2000s when a player died irl and his relative announced his passing in the forums. First comment asked if he dropped any good loot.
Ps I love your bionicle t-shirt
He always has great shirts.
@@Dild0swaggins63 soo true bro
We had a Funeral for a Guy on our server of LOTRO , he was the usual 'Good guys' (freeps - free peoples) leader in the PVP area , and we set it in the centre of the map , both freep's and creep's showed up and we had a proper damn funeral , no one did shit (as doing so would have seen you banished from the tight knit community that is lotro) we even had the family of the guy (i think he was like 22y when he passed) come in and thanked us and said a few things , it was great. And in honour of him we all went to the Hobbit village and lined up freeps on one side .... creeps on the other ..... 2 massive lines facing each other , then we charged into battle. Id only gotten 3 hits off before our charge had crashed the whole server , and was down for an hour or so lol
I swear, every video you make is better crafted than the previous one, and I already liked the previous one a lot.
I remember there was a blood plague incident on my server a few years ago, people flying around stormwind giving the plague to everyone, i more or less just got a gryphon to the top of the continent and called it a day
So cool to see a video on a topic I recommended! I loved it!
Nice 👌
The Tauren couldn't understand what was being said by the Alliance at the funeral. We didn't have that ability until elixir of tongues was added in 2018. While it was in beta, the elixir didn't make it into the release. It's pure coincidence. Clearly the Tauren was more switched on than the other attendees, although it did him no good.
Mmmm, I've never played WoW but that Grizzly story warmed my heart. Feels amazing when the bad guys get absolutely bent in the end.
I came up with a smaller scale version of what Angwe did on my own in Classic. I love the Syndicate faction in WoW, so I went out of my way to actually raise my rep with them on my human rogue, Sedsyndicate on Whitemane. Long story short, I did it. Then I proceeded to camp Stromgarde, an area where not only were there Syndicate npcs to back me up in fights... _but elite Syndicate npcs._ Any horde who tried to come in for quests would almost always die. I learned many tricks and shortcuts for surprising players and getting over and around walls over time. But because I couldn't stop Alliance members from killing the Syndicate npc's, I instead offered a different service to them. Kiting.
See, since all the Syndicate member in Stromgarde are elite in vanilla classic, it can take quite a while to get through them all if you're leveling, even with friends and party members. Since I'm neutral with the Syndicate, I can walk straight past all of them, go all the way inside the keep and kite out Falconcrest and his bodyguard Otto. Wouldn't you know it, they do not share in the actual Syndicate reputation. So I can still aggro them and bring them all the way down to the entrance for lowbie Alliance, skipping fifteen or so elite mobs and saving significant amounts of time for other people who need to do the quest. I've been called "the hero we didn't know we needed" and seen people say "this is the most fun I've had in classic tbh. I've just been mindlessly aoe grinding up until now".
I only wish I had others to help me do this. But alas, the time has passed. Burning Crusade Classic came, nerfed all the Syndicate npc's into normal one's, basically eliminating my fun, niche little purpose. And now Vanilla Classic is all but abandoned. So I can't go back, even with the clone character I made. Still, I have my memories and screenshots. So at least it wasn't a total waste.
From the most infamous murderer in wow history to become a loving father, what a character development.
“We’ll go where eagles dare, we’ll go where eagles daaaaaare!”
"Angwe was such a good rogue that no images of him exist" is honestly my favorite part of his entire story
" Wasn't added until Warlords of Draenor. " You making fun of that shit, but I'm still waiting for WoD classic so I can once again fight on that fun PvP island as an overpowered 2h Frost death knight that can skull rape anything but a Holy paladin, or a good Survival / MM / BM Hunter ( Because during that, ALL HUNTERS WERE GOOD AT PVP AND SURVIVAL WAS BASICALLY SUPER AFFLICTION WITH INSTANT CAST. ) - so, I miss it. I would level five level 100s again. A hunter, a DK, a paladin, a rogue and of course... a warlock because that was also when warlocks could literally stack life steal on everyone around them without it being canceled on your last target, meaning you could turn a mob of enemy players into you being a mini-boss without using the artifact... and with the artifact, your DoTs killed faster than Hakkar's Blood on a low level player. I miss that stuff.
Yes, people hid in their garrisons a ton, but... you gonna act like that isn't what people do just standing in the city capital and talking in Trade..? I just miss it... the expression of not knowing what you had until it's gone is true. I miss garrisons, I miss the awesome raids and I miss the PvP back then that had so many viable classes. Shadowlands? Warlock and Boomkin or you're fucked.
I think wod would have been way more liked if they didn't leave it to work on legion. It had good content but it didn't have enough content.
I remember that funeral one. I believe Serenity had to disband and several members spent the rest of the wow careers hopping servers because people would hunt them down. Which, is well deserved.
Blizzard's best F2P currently is SC2 coop chat.
It goes like this:
You write something random religion related, then you play a game of SC2 coop and when you return the chat will have gone completely nuts.
RUclips is a bit too echo chambery to reliably provide this, here one side will just dogpile the other until they delete their comments.
The big irony of the Serenity Now funeral raid was that the person being memorialized was a massive PVPer.
Man, the insanity of vanilla WoW is something that had to be experienced to be truly believed. Its so true what you said regarding every server being full of memorable players and villians. I have stories from my time with the game that will stay with me forever. Just like Angwe I've had to put MMOs away and move on with my life but god does that vein of nostalgia run deep in my heart.
Where my Shadow Council friends at?
the "nice day for a memorial" comment wouldn't have been readable to the Tauren, that player was a night elf. You know back then they couldn't talk to each other.
Raiding a funeral, eh? That’s kinda awesomely brutal, but yes a truly dickish move.
Double however, an excellent example of high level Warcraft.
I played on the same server as GRIZZLY. Our guild had a blacklist of players that we shouldn't do dungeons with, and the vast majority of them were GRIZZLY members.
And people wonder why us old-timers speak so highly of the vanilla days. As you can see, it was fucking wild and magical hahah.
The funeral one just fucks me up just because I play on an rp server and it would be social suicide to do this
Maybe the real Leeroy Jenkins was the friends we made along the way...?
The story at 7:41 sounds like the equivalent of the black knight in the story of King Arthur. “I move… for no man.”
I play on Herod USA (horde) and, when the AQ event was going on, the biggest guild at the time on the server, called , threatened to keep the whole gate opening event "hostage" for a long time:
they wanted to be the "world first ever" guild to have all 40 core raiders of the main raid team with a scarab lord mount.
...Thankfully, after days and days of discord calls between the whole "coalition" (aka the Guild Masters & officers of the major guilds on the server) we managed to convince em to...ya know...not do that!
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I don't even play wow but I like ManyKudos and he knows how to engage viewers.
Grieffing in MMOS should be a national sport.this is the best thing i have ever heard.
I was part of the [DIE] guild back then. This sure brings back memories. Serenity Now was always somewhat of a troll guild full of trouble makers.
The funeral killing was one of the best usages of the music of Scatman John
Having any gathering on a PVP server in those days was asking for trouble. Red = dead
“Did you think we had forgotten? Did you think we had forgiven?
Behold, now, the terrible vengeance of the Forsaken!
Death to the Scourge! And death to the living!”
Will never forget this point. Storyline went downhill rapidly from this moment onward.
Another great video! Love how you inject humor into the storytelling. Also, like the shirt, brings me back lol.
Always here for Blizzard slander!!! Love the upload as always!
I made an entire video just to slag Blizzard off for 16 minutes
It's not slander if it's true! 😎
normie companies: bans you instantly for cheating
blizzard: not yet.. not yet.. not yet.. BAM! you and your friends wanna play together right? you've seen the upcoming expansion right? come on, you just hit level 60 remember? come on, this is like the peak of your game! come on! buy an extra key ;) 10% limited discount uwu~
What's that booty bounce Playlist buddy
I remember my dad (Malthar) being so pissed about the corrupted blood thing. i was 10 and had been playing for 2 years at that point, my dad actually didn't let me play at the time b/c my characters were low level. though one time i did get on only to discover i was in stormwind, died instantly, didn't play for some time after that
The level of toxicity showed by these examples really makes me happy I don’t play this game anymore.
One thing to note however is that "good" seemingly triumphed in the end. Angwe realized that he was a fucking loser and decided to do something with his life, and GRIZZLY couldn't even get their titles due to a bunch of horde players banning together to hold them off. That is actually really insane, and heartwarming.
Also while not super great, the funeral is still talked about here and there today. So she is still remembered, which counts for something.
@@zipp4910 Another thing worth noting.
After the funeral stunt, Serenity Now's name was fucking dirt, and everyone teamed up to destroy them full time.
That Classic Ahn'Qiraj story has nothing on what went on in servers that opened post-launch, but pre-Cata. There were a lot of guilds who would have someone with a toon that had already met the requirements to ring the gong do a character transfer, and then do the event at a time that would be extremely awkward for most players to join in (e.g during working hours, or very early in the morning) just to stop other guilds from getting the AQ War rewards.
You only got part of the Grizzly story out, there was way more details left out or you didnt know about. Still good video and any chance to dunk on Grizzly is a win in my book.
That conclusion to the GRIZZLY fiasco is so great to hear lol serves them right
the funny thing is that most of them don't even notice what a nonsense blizzard has done.
Blizzard punishes people who are creative and play their game.
instead of letting these people play, you ban them and give them a certain way of playing their game.
It's like at South Park where the kids played the game for months to finish off one player and then in the end it says, now we can play the game.
The answer is but you have played the game the whole time and have probably had the best experience ever, because it fell out of the ordinary and did not go as Blizzard had in mind.
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Oh my god I'm crying! This is only the third video I'm watching from you, having just discovered your channel through recommendations, and I'm having so much fun. When you alluded to the funeral in the other video I was intrigued to look it up, but now I know the story and it's hilarious, I couldn't keep a straight face during that part and there's still the rest of the video to go. Thank you for quality content! Love your style of humour.
I mean were I to ever die and have a funeral in a mmo I would be offended if it was not a team deathmatch between people who thought I was cool and the people that for some reason or other really hated me. A video game funeral that doesn't involve any fun combat in that video game? What's even the point.
about the funeral.. you forgot one thing, Faye enjoyed PvP and most likely would have loved the whole interaction as an event, it quite possibly could have been the best send off anyone could ask for in WoW.
On Tichondrius there was a massive war over the AQ launch. We had to sneak the shark boss in the middle of the night, and the guy in Duskwood had horde guards 24/7 watching and suiciding lvl 1's into him whenever we tried to kill it making him stronger and impossible to kill. Eventually we put together several raids intending to just zerg it down and crashed the server. The guild running it then dispatched messengers to run between the vent servers of the different raids to coordinate logging off and back on and moving in waves. It took a few rotations around between the different raids but we eventually brought it down. Vanilla was great.