Lenovo's First Snapdragon X Elite Laptops
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Gordon provides hardware details of the new Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x and ThinkPad T14s Gen 6 laptops, both of which feature Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite processors. Full performance review of Snapdragon X Elite and these laptops will come at a later date.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Intro
00:09 - Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x
05:55 - Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 6
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thanks to Gordon. Great to see him back at work!
Gordon looking great, hope he overcomes this soon
What happened to him?
@@bruceparker3139 Recovering from Cancer
Lung cancer
@@thehahahaha88 ouch.
@@thehahahaha88😢😢😢 I'm only just discovering him, I wish him the best
Gordon get better soon!
Great hands-on! I especially appreciate how you opened up the laptop to show the internals. They do not look much different from an x64 laptop's internals, honestly, but that shouldn't really matter much.
Love you Gordon! So great to always see you, you are awesome!!!
Eso. That's what I want to see Gordon's back in action. Hopefully, we're going to see nice-looking charts soon.
I was really hoping to get some Gordon Benchmarks of this!
What a great review, so good to have your unique point of view, experience and expertise available to usher in this new range of interesting ARM-architecture Qualcomm PC's. Your absence over the last months was worrysome and now it looks as though you are back to stay! So good to see you at work again! Looking forward to watching all your coming reviews and analyses!
Wonderful to see Gordon back with his take on cutting edge tech - you're looking great and I can't stop similing! 😊😊
Glad to see you back, great video
The first look we've been waiting for. Thanks Gordon.
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Gordon good to see you
Great review, as always Gordon; good balance of overview and detail.
Good to see you Gordon hope you’re feeling better ❤
Ensure Linux support for a few major distros and Bazinga.
Gordon is the best! The laptop looks great too...hopefully, it'll be great in the real world.
Welcome back! Missed you!
What happened to Gordon? He seems so thin.
@@falconeagle3655 Looking around, seems he has lung cancer unfortunatelly
@@stefanorigato Probably "had", not "has". The chemo is supposed to drive it into some form of remission.
@@falconeagle3655Lung cancer
Gordon may be dying, but he still hates Apple the most.
Great overview, thanks
great to see you Gordon!
Frore's Airjets and ARM chips would make an ideal pairing, at least on paper.
Wish you al the best man !!!!!
Pretty cool! Hope to catch you at Computex Gordon!
I think on the last live stream he said he wasn't going. But I think Adam is though.
love the clarification to wait for reviews as all we know is that it exists.
Nice Video Gordon, but the elephant in the room for me, is how do you rebuild "Windows" after a storage failure or change ?
Great to see you Gordon! Been a huge fan of your work over the years. Wishing you the best of health ❤
So the longer M2 2280 SSDs would be incompatible on the T14s? What about the Yoga?
looking good gordon. stay strong!😊😊😊
The Slim 7x is my #1 pick. Does the hinge allow folding the screen all the way back 2 in 1 style? Also only the 16GB Slim 7x sku is up for pre-order but will there be a 32GB sku?
The data sheet says the Yoga Slim 7x has a touch display - are you able to use it in tablet mode?
I had an ARM PC back in the late 80's. I'm looking forward to seeing the new 2024 versions.
surprised the Solid state cooling solution hasnt came to laptops yet
shockingly, can you imagine the combo with these arm chips if they actually deliver,
Linus Sebastian may be blocking that 😂
Airjet still needs to overcome early production woes to be more widely available. Still a bit of a premium I suspect.
Anyone knows if RAM in these Snapdragon laptops is embedded in the SOC as is the case in Apple’s M processors?
Sending you well wishes Gordon… I’ve been a fan since MaximumPC days in the 1990s! These ARM laptops are looking great, and seem to deliver a significant shot across the bow of Intel. Intel has been struggling to deal with a resurgent AMD (especially in the data center). The question now is how Intel will deal with the threat of an ARM invasion in Client? How are the compatibility of Windows apps on the ARM platform, is the Windows Prism emulator working well? Would you recommend an ARM laptop over say waiting for Intel Lunar Lake / Arrow Lake?
A.Laptop.needs.a.headphone.jack.
no headphone jack is straight up ridiculous, even apple have them on the air line
@@clogged_toilet Yeah, no matter how high companies are praising their wireless headphones they all sound at best "OK", my wired headphones blow them out of the water AND they'll still work in 20+ years. Compared to wireless battery e-waste that has at best 3-4 years until you'll throw them away or somehow replace the battery.
so we need less cooling now, gpus is integrated, batteries also kept the same size meaning there's plenty of space but having a headphone jack is "hard"
No it doesn’t
It’s 2024. Go back to the 90s with your wired headphones
The t14s reminds me of the x1 extreme gen 1 from the outside.. the standard laptop has come a long way 🎉
If we hear fan noise or not doesn't depend on the ISA but only in the TDP and the general efficiency with daily tasks.
Gordon is a real one.
I like your gshock. Loving the competition that will be coming since arm is open source.
This looks promising and solid. Even though I wanted a X13s, I'll to wait a year, maybe even more, just to get field reviews from more users.
Compatibility with old and less demanding games to play during lunch and study breaks? Minesweeper? Stardew Valley? World of Warships? Crysis? GTA V?
If they became succesful in a year or two you will have all the games on ARM.
It can play all those games you've listed
Even the native games are problematic, so it must be very old game if you want to emulate properly (it has only a bit better GPU like a current flagship Android phone, so a few games what they showed only was capable to run with 30-40fps on just 1080p.. if you add that they need any emulation for that, it's just further decrease the already low performance.. i mean Vulkan is one of the worst in stability, so there is a huge gap in the min/max fps, so if the game average fps just 30-40 than you will deffinetly notice the 15-20 fps moments, even if you consider the 30fps as playable state)
😂
When apple launched the M1 a lot of apps where slow and many didn't run at all, in time developers made those apps native and now they are fast
Did we know if the ThinkPad T14s Gen 6 have a great Linux Support ?
Also I can't found if this "Copilot+"PC is send with a NPU and i don' found the exact iGPU model too. I someone know.
If this information is in the video, my bad, I'm not a great english speaker...
Thank you for rewie
I've been pretty hype for these new laptops but what I'm not hearing abut is how good that x86 emulation is. I'm keeping my fingers crossed tho. I want this!
Sounds like there's an embargo untill june 18th on any more detailed information on those specific models. But there are other Windows ARM machine you can google to see what the compatibility is like, and right now it's pretty spotty
Yep, that's the key.
Of course Microsoft and the manufacturers don't want you to really think about it since they're talking about native apps but if there is to be a real transition to ARM for the PC platform in general that emulation needs to be very good or it just won't happen, again.
I really hope the build quality doesn't suck. I'm currently on a yoga slim 7 and after 2 years it's literally falling apart. The prices compared to the surface laptop are insane tho
Very curious about the graphics perf on these… light gaming? Even productivity apps and browsing is GPU accelerated these days!
But what about someone like myself who's in publishing (so I need the media functions like the superior display, audio, etc.) but wants the durability and reliability of the Thinkpad line? This is a middle ground that no one seems to be addressing effectively, and it should be easy for Lenovo, imo. Terrific review, thank you!
I was thinking about the same thing. I want this business ThinkPad but with Mini-LED 165Hz display. I currently own X1 Carbon and it is a great laptop, just requires better battery life and display to be perfect.
I love lenovo, 10+ yrs 4gb ram, still running fine.
Where are the 64GB RAM? Can't find it on the website?
The information at 2:39 is incorrect. The Yoga Slim 7x does not have Thunderbolt support. The USB-C ports are however USB4 Gen 3 capable. Thunderbolt is not the same thing as USB4.
Q: Does this CPU support AV1 encoding for streaming? Any word on OBS support?
I'm hearing it has AV1 encode at 4K but not 8K...
@@FakeGordonMahUng Oh nice, thanks for the update!. I wonder if Adam would approve of this kind of device for live streaming with multiple cameras. I wonder if we'll ever get AI triggers in OBS, where Copilot sees something happen and then that triggers an animation or announcement.
"Anti-Notch"... 😄 is that Lenovo's official feature or Gordon's anti-Apple spiel?
I am now left wondering would a snapdragon x elite handheld actually be possible because it would be nice to have one with way better battery life
Nice...the classic nipple mouse...now waiting for the classic Pentium processor with MMX technology...love the classics
Nah the "my rotten coworker is Gona eat this" was personal
Love the yoga 7x display
does it have a haptic touchpad?
Igpu needs to surpass 780m and im all in. Especially on a handheld gaming pc or gpd win mini style device. So many possibilities
Dell were (are? probably) putting 97Wh batteries in their ultrabooks, think we'll see anything like this in these ARM laptops or is it a bit excessive given how long even a 70Wh apparently lasts?
Looks promising, upgradable RAM with LPCAMM2 would be amazing, I miss the 3,5 mm jack dual device Bluetooth is a mess
price forecasts ??
Thanks!
Can you please let us know if the yoga opens flat (180 degrees) ? This info is not available anywhere
You can see it doesn't by the hinge
@@bignicnrg3856 how can you tell exactly. Are you 100% sure?
@@SpanishCandleYeah, look at the fuckin hinge.
@SpanishCandle I'd bet on it. Might be close but I don't believe it's completely flat. You seem a bit frantic over it. Why? I'm sure when it's actually for sale you will be able to see it before purchase
@@bignicnrg3856why frantic? I’m debating which one to preorder
I'm using an analog earphones while watching and listening to this review...
same lol
Damn, I wish Lenovo kept some legacy ports such as full size HDMI 2.1, Micro SD Card slot, USB-A 3.2 Gen2 port
Why are the reviews postponed... that means is not so good?
I hope you get well soon brother 🙏🙏
I hope that there will be one with airjet and not fan
Is this good for gaming?
Snapdragon X Elite 🚀 🚀 🚀
One port to rule them all. All other ports rest in peace. Much welcomed.
Wait, so the memory is on the motherboard, not on the chip ?
I think it's USB4 on the Slim 7x, not Thunderbolt4
where is the CAMM ram? Where is the AirJet?
👍 MVP
Does it run Linux Gordon?
No mention of emulation performance?
Get well soon.
Hope Gordon gets better!
Does the Yoga Slim 7x support dual external monitors?
afaik it supports up to 4
Gordon 🐐🐐
As cool as Windows on Arm is, Gordon those jeans look cooler! They appear to have a dyed warp & weft. They look really slubby too.
Opportunity lost for not saying the 'ARMageddon is upon us'
Can't wait for mini pc`s with snap x arm yea
Awesome
So basically it’s the MacBook we’ve all asked for and never got.
Gordon the GOAT.🔥
Yoga is a good brand, we have one with an AMD chip but even with 15 W TDP it gets "too hot" so I'm pleased ARM is doing the same performance with 7 watts.
I was told that I could listen to the radio at a reasonable volume from nine to eleven
I like the shout out to Apple 🍏 he made
PLEASE, get us Linux running on these!
Will Chinese companies like Huawei be able to get X Elite chips?
Looks like dram at high speed 8000MTps and ssd needed passive cooling. Damn Wi-Fi is soldered. Only 5G and SSD is replaceable on a ThinkPad. Good to see you Gordon. Especially like the Casio than x Elite laptop
I would really like to see the ThinkPad X1 Nano with the new ARM processors. Or any alternative - slimmer and lighter than MacBook Air. I think there is no reason for ancient USB A ports on T14s.
please fan noise ?
I'm actually quite excited about the systems coming available in June and particularly the offerings from Lenovo. I depend heavily upon my Lenovo Thinkpad L13. I know it's on the lower end of the Thinkpad lineup, but it has faithfully served my modest needs without any problems. I was disappointed when Lenovo (apparently) discontinued the initial release of the gen 4 series of the L13 lineup. Not sure what happened, but the reviews seemed poor. I suspect that is why Lenovo points customers to the new X1 series. I'm hopeful that Lenovo will restore the L13 lineup using the snapdragon elite processor. An L13 with 16GB of RAM and a 512TB SSD would do very nicely. I'd even settle for the 1920x1200 screen, as long as it was built on the 16:10 standard. The forthcoming T14s is a great looking system, but the cost would prevent any purchase by me. In contrast, an L13 snapdragon configuration could come in at a much lower price point. I believe a LOT of people would buy such a system. I believe the key word going forward is patience.
The price of the Thinkpad T14s is outrageous though xD I'll probably look at the Yoga one
WithIn slow future, we gono see this ARM architecture machines with current gaming laptops large heatpipe design cuze slowly they will need more TDP power and will eventually generate more heat, so it will eventually be similar (2023 or 2024 etc... heatpipe cooling design) with only processor or SOC that's being changing from x86/x64 to ARM architecture.
The Yoga boasts a MacBook Pro battery size on a MacBook Air chassis. With fans, for sustained performance, which the Air can’t do. With a better processor than the Air. With upgradable storage!
How come all the literature has been comparing these to the Air and not the Pro? I don't see parallels to the air at all.
And with an already dead end technology.. or did you missed that part it's already need 12 power cores to give you this..? I mean the M1 Max doubled the power cores/performance and the M1 Ultra quadtrupled the power cores/performance.. but this chip need almost the same power cores like the M1 Ultra (it had 16, but those power cores gives you the performance..), so how they want to give us any better chip, what can rival the stronger Apple chip..? Because this chip is sucks on that, even on 80W you only gain 10% more performance (from 23W to 80W is about 250% extra power consumption and just 10% extra performance, so deffinetly not capable for any desktop, even if you pump 200W into it, the performance won't raise..)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st There's no point in fixating on core count and per-core performance since Qualcomm's and Apple's parts aren't directly comparable even though they're both ARM-based, just like with Intel and AMD despite both companies producing x86 CPUs. The only thing that truly matters is overall performance and battery life, and that still remains to be seen for these new Snapdragons.
@@POVwithRC Power consumption and chip size in these chips are comparable. The M Pros are a step above in both chip size and TDP. Snapdragon competitors to M Pros, M Max and M Ultras have not been announced yet.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st As far as I understand, the improvement from M to M Pro, then M Max, then M Ultra is essentially chip size, with a corresponding increase in TDP. Sure more things are added, but essentially, chip size and allowed TDP. Snapdragon X was derived from Nuvia, which itself was formed by ex Apple engineers. Their design was different from M's for focusing solely on performance cores. But in the end these are only design choices, what matters is that the current design matches or exceeds the M3 for performance and power consumption.
As for how much room for improvement each platform has, that I wouldn't know. Apple's own M3 vs M2 improvement came with some not so clever tricks such as increased size and allowed TDP, which points to slowing pace of improvement. And in fact the M4 chip is rumored to be on the same path. That would even be the reason why Apple skipped the M3 and went straight to M4 in the latest iPad Pros. Performance difference between them was not so huge, so better go for the added marketing impact. Everything points to diminishing returns on future M chips. Let's see how Snapdragons do.
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I am from India looking for 16inch 17inch Snapdragon X Elite Windows Copilot+ ( OS) Laptops.