I hope there is a rangefinder style coming soon from Lumix - I see they cancelled the GX9. But I also noticed the G100 is actually quite a tiny camera, though I'm in no hurry to upgrade from my GX85, working well for me :)
Yes! Also aps-c. Fujifilm is currently bigger than more than a couple fullframe cameras despite the teeny mount. I am just waiting with my GRIII and shelf of XF lenses for small, fun cameras to come back into style. Olympics is coming again though so I'm expecting everyone to double down on mega gear for sports and wildlife. 😢
It's not clear to me M43 will have the same size advantage it before when we have cameras like the sigma fp and x100vi with significantly bigger sensors that are also pocketable.
Genuinely brought such a good and needed perspective in the gear obsessed world of photography RUclips. Down to earth, approachable, and so charming along the way. He was one of those people that felt so familiar even if you'd never met them. Missed by many.
I just bought a G9ii, it's basically the perfect camera, at least for me. The incredible stabilization in video is enough to make me buy one, no more wobbly corner with UWA lenses and no more gimbal is a game changer. Then you factor in the excellent autofocus, robust codec, size, lens selection, all the amazing video features and assist tools ... it's a no brainer.
I agree, I love my G9II as well. People complaint it's too big for M43 but there's time I want such body size for its ergonomics esp. when fitted with heavier lens. I also kept my GX8 too for light travel.
Hmmm, was there a FW update that eliminated the wobbly corners? I saw a video a while back with S5 II vs G9 II, same focal length, mounted together for the same movement, and they both had similar levels of corner wobble. I think both had issues with vignetting moving all over the place, too. Is there in-camera vignetting correction in video for the G9 II?
I'm using a ten year old em-10 fairly casually for ten years and its been the perfect camera to learn on: all the features you could need, but forgiving and approachable to carry and fumble around with.
@@spinninginfinity-tk2ve due to stupidity of MFT manufacturers. We all love to work by "WYSIWYG" rule, the best solution to any camera. And never to old Olympus\Panasonic cameras. From stock JPG - this camera making bad shadows, and you will never know about this issue until one day. The only solution is - *roll the drums* - to overbright the image before taking a shot (!). This is awful. And even after - you will be needed to use a RAW file format to process highlights (!). What in this world is wrong about those guys? I've tested old SX210is and E-PL3 with stock 14-42lens on closest possible settings. And powershot wins anyway. No awful noise on iso200, no bad shadows, no RAW manipulations to get nice "low key" images, good macro, good usability, internal IS, big zoom, and fun to use! The only two bright (joke) sides of E-PL3: good colors; good battery life; A friend of mine used E-PM1 along with Panasoic 20 f1.7 and Fujinon 25 f1.4, and got insanely good pictures, and were shocked when i tell him about shadows issue, he just never met the issue, since he used over +0.7..+1.0 correction. And also a faster aperture while me used only stock f3.5 to f5.6...
As Panasonic already has a 14mm f2.5 pancake, that you can put on a Pen-F, that doesn’t make much sense at all. It would be enough to bring a beautiful and compact body with an evf. For me personally, the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 pancake was my personal favorite.
@@jamesstanley7263 the 20mm f1.7 is closer to what you want, and its great. There is a 25mm Lumix prime too but it's just over being pocketable. I don't love the 50mm length so I went wider.
I love my EM1 Mark III and the M43 system. I sell my work on-line and in galleries and no one has ever asked me what I shoot with except other photographers that don't buy art work, lol!
Hey there guys.. i just bought 3 GH5 MK 2s for my work. And, I got two OM 8-25 f4s and an OM 12-100 f4. I also have an S5II but trying to build out 2 more of those with suitable glass was just more than I can spend right now. I just finished a project in NYC and had a day to go take photos around the city and central park. I've been focused on telephoto lenses for so long I never knew how great wide angle lenses could be. Nearly instantly I moved to the 8-25 and stayed on that for the rest of the day. It was an awesome learning experience. I can't wait to go out and do more. Now I've got my eyes on on a set of Sigma primes.. they are still on sale from black Friday. Cheers Rick
It feels like there's been a big uptick in people buying up m4/3 gear on MPB lately. For me it's still the sweet spot between image quality, size and price. Being able to get something the Panny Leica primes for a few hundred quid is something you can't get in other systems.
to be fair something like 50 2.5G produces the same result as 25 1.4 and is very similar in terms of weight and size. but when it comes to compact zooms and primes m43 is the king, on top of that 15 1.7 in my opinion is by far the best 28mm option on any system and paired with smaller lumix bodies makes for a great street/travel set up
@@TheUrbanEpicure old DSLR's, any camera phone. Obviously modern full frame and APS-C cameras are better but that Fuji is triple the price of a GX85 or something like a EM-5, with lenses being bigger and a lot more expensive too.
@@Cubeforc3You're comparing apples to oranges. Larger formats produce significantly better results. Comparing lenses of the same performance always shows that there's no size benefits to MFT, instead you get overpriced gear. Olympus sells f/1.7 lenses as "pro" options, when they're actually equivalent to f/3.5 full frame alternatives. In truth, MFT exists to sell sub par things to gullible people.
It has tons of advantages, and offsetting downsides too. I like MFT because when I am travelling the last thing I want is heavy camera gear, plus it can be super affordable used. The easy access to good 4k video is another plus!
@@youknowwho9247 Sadly, that is true, especially when you are looking at the higher end MFT bodies like the OM1. It's still the case that MFT lenses are substantially lighter than FF, especially at the long end .. but not always! If Lumix doesn't roll out more smaller bodies, then the size advantage of MFT will disappear. Luckily I buy used so I still have many years before I get up to the present-day offerings :D
@@youknowwho9247 This. It's absoultely amazing how small FF has become, and how large m4/3 has grown to. m4/3 NEEDs to leverage its potential size advantage if it hopes to survive.
I think one of the greatest benefits of MFT is the incredible selection of lenses. Even ignoring native lenses, with adapters, you can put just about any lens on an MFT camera. Focal reducers are a thing as well.
Well then, Sony E-mount will blow you away. Has at least 3x the lenses of m4/3, and can adapt the same non-native lenses, including those made for m4/3!
Original G9 has the option of programming the front two buttons to focus near and far respectively, which sorts most issues with distance focussing. I use it often.
Dannnng that is awesome! I need to see if my Gx85 can do that. For astrophotography I would want distance focus with a button press. Not that that camera is, ahem, ideal for astrophotography...
@@busydadscooking001 Afraid not. I also have the GX80 and, awesome camera though it is, and indeed it has some features missing from its newer big brother, it does not have this one.
It would be really nice to see a new PEN-F or something of the like. The OM-1 II and G9II are fantastic cameras, but neither are particularly compact. Considering the popularity of the X100 range you’d think there’s a gap in the market for some more compact retro options.
OM System are sleeping on a gold mine. They could release a new Pen-F and some fixed lens models (35 equivalent and a zoom one) and make bank... Especially since their JPEG profiles are also awesome. I mean, I'd be down even for a new Pen with a vertical sensor, akin to the half frame format they had in the 60s; in fact, I was holding my Pen W recently and thinking "gosh I wish there was something like this but digital"; I'd give extra points for a shutter speed ring around the lens hehe. I just hope they make all models with a viewfinder.
I have just changed from Nikon full frame - D6 and D850 - to OM Sytems OM-1 Mk ii Mainly due to advancing years and still want travel. I am really pleased with the move.
MFT is love, I'm sick and tired of people yelling "MFT is dead" every single year when the format is going strong still! My favorite lens is the Pana-Leica 15mm, absolute gem.
@@nikostalk5730I agree. These delusional people saying otherwise is trying too hard. You either roll with compact digital (which is the reason why used 2000's digipocket is fetching high price now) or FF digital, or film camera. 4/3 is dead.
I have a G9 and 4 tiny fast primes and love it. Image quality is great weight is light. Great for street photography and a secondary body for my landscape photography. I also have FF Lumix S1R and Medium Format Pentax 645z. All formats have their place for different situations.
I sold my G80 last year and bought the S5II and I don't know what it is, but I found my G80 more fun to use and I even think the images / video I used to capture from it are better than what I take with my S5II. Not saying I'll go back to the G80 but it was my first ever camera that I know I used to its full potential and I was very happy / satisfied using it.
@@gabedamien You are right. In fact Olympus has a 90mm/f3.5 m43 macro lenses that produces true 2X magnification. Together with the Focus stacking feature of OM, it open up more possibilities for macro photos as compared to other systems imo.
Weirdly I've been looking a M4/3 recently. Just because I want something really small and light weight that I can easily pocket. Missed out on getting an old Olympus E-PL7 the other day that was going for a bargain price on a website. It looked pretty solid for an old little camera!
Of the Pens, that is probably my favourite camera. I managed to get hold of a full black one for with the EZ and flash for about €120. That one is not going anywhere.
I love MFT. G9 is my favorite camera of all time. Love the GH5 II, looking forward to getting the G9 II. I am always amazed at the variety of lens types I can always have with me.
I don't shoot on M4/3 but I really appreciate this video. I'm a full-time photographer who has his gear provided for him. At the office, I'm on full frame Canon. But at home, I'm on APS-C Fuji cameras. Depending on the day my Canon gear might make it home with me for certain things or my Fuji gear might make it into the office for certain things. I get really annoyed with people who say that to be a pro, you need to be on full-frame, or that full-frame is inherently better than APS-C or M4/3 because of blah, blah, blah. Depth of field and low light noise. Objectively, full-frame is going to produce less of these two things, but at this point in camera technology and lens availability, neither of those are challenges that can't be dealt with if you know what you're doing. To anyone out there who says that full-frame sensors will always produce a better image, I'd challenge them to look at my photos side-by-side and tell me which one is shot with the Canon and which is shot with the Fuji.
My friend lent me full frame kit and my low light photos are abbysmal, I use Fuji daily so I know full well how to use Fuji Point is, learn to love the kit and grow with it.
I recently bought a GF10 and the nocticron 42.5mm 1.2 lol... it is hilarious and I absolutely love it. I also picked up the PL 15 1.7 and that's a lot of fun, but the nocticron is something special. The GF10 has a little grip on the front that is perfect when you put on a big lens.
Had an EP-5 with Oly 17/1.8, PanaLeica 25/1.4, and Oly 45/1.8. This was a great little package. Took the camera with the 17 to a business trip to NYC and brought back some amazing shots.
don't buy them, they are literally a 1-inch cameras, but expensive as hell sold my e-pl3 in exchange to 650D, and it was like the switch from being poor straight to Elon Musk
@@nikostalk5730 They're not literally 1-inch sensor cameras, the sensor is four thirds of an inch (which is where the name for the system comes from). So about 80% more sensor area than 1-inch sensors like the Sony RX100 series.
À gx9 successor with real time lut would be a really serious competitor to Fuji x100 and xe series. I just don’t understand why panasonic prioritize m43 with full frame size bodies…
I got into MFT as a cheap way to experience the world of mirrorless camera but also be my backup to my main Canon 70D. Never looked back or regret it! Would note that in an alternative time, I would've gotten an Sony Alpha NEX 6 but in this line, the low price of MFT in the used market is the deciding factor when I was shopping around. Oh and no, im not a working professional photography/video maker so I dont mind the picture or video quality too much.
Love for the shot at 04:50, like catching a glimpse of a scene right out of a fairytale. Still don't want to sell my M4/3 lenses, because I'm longing for a new "small" Camera with that mount (imagine a GX9 successor with the sensor of the G9II).
Hi guys, thanks for the video. I opted for MFT due mainly to weight, or lack of it. I'm ageing, with a bad back and knees. I can now take a selection of lenses out for a day's shoot, and even use my Weebil S gimbal for four hours. Also, and importantly, I take images of flowers and depth of field can be vital, so the lack of bokeh is great. If I need blurring of the background, I have a delightful 25mm (50mm equiv) F1.4 Leica lens for that. At F2.8 it's magic. I've got a GH2, and 2 x G9s, one of which will be replaced with a GH6 soon. I've also had a G7. I've got 5 lenses: the 25mm, a prime 45mm (90) macro (courtesy of MPB), and 12-60 (double it yourself,also via MPB), a 14-140 (best kit lens I've ever had) and a 100-300. The in-camera stabilisation on the G9 is superb and I have shot 300mm (600 equiv) hand-held with great results. Thanks again for the video. MFT is a bit niche, but if the niche suits you, it's the answer to your prayers.
All the lenses i have seem sharp corner to corner with good contrast. Something that seems to lack in the more budget friendly full frame options. I know there is the equivalence argument but the M43 lenses just seem such great value. I have the 100-400 but often use the 100-300. 600mm fov with such a small lens. Crazy. Its the quality of the lenses for me that stops me moving to full frame as my main camera. I have the Z5 but only use the 24-200 and 40mm F2. They are great but i don't feel the urge to build up a collection like i have done with M43.
If the Panasonic G9ii price goes down I would consider a buy since I already own four lenses for the G9. Also, the phase focus and the considerable amount of video modes/formats that are available. Even more then Sony.
A few dealers had it for $500 off in a trade-in promo last month, so I bought one. It's a big upgrade from the prior 20MP sensors, and the PDAF is a huge improvement over their DFD AF. You will love it if you get one.
I picked up a used GH5 last year for $500 and it’s such a fantastic camera. Micro 4/3rds lenses are incredible for the price and overall super happy that I switched from Canon EF.
Back in the day sensor manufacturing cost was a very significant factor in determining overall system cost. This is no longer true. Lens manufacturing cost now dominates. M43 lenses are much more difficult to manufacture than the equivalent full frame lens. Consider, for example, a f/1.8 50mm lens capable of resolving 20 Mpixels on a full frame sensor. The equivalent f/0.9 25mm lens capable of resolving 20 Mpixels on a M43 sensor is a much bigger engineering challenge, and will require a much more complex and expensive design. It seems to me that full frame will therefore eventually become the realm of the amateur photographer and M43 will probably be mainly the realm of professional videographers, where the high readout speed of small sensors is crucial.
I think you're overestimating the engineering challenge and ignoring the cost of glass. Big ground elements are more expensive than small ground elements.
@@larrychicco1062 Lenses with equivalent performance in terms of light gathering power and ability to render the same depth of field have the same aperture size - and hence similar element diameters. Consider my f/1.8 50mm and f/0.9 25mm comparison, for example. The elements will have similar diameter, but the latter design will need more elements and probably more (expensive) aspherical elements to correct for aberrations.
@@Stephen.Bingham ah I get you. But then I don't think m43 users are shooting 25mm .9. They're just using 25mm 1.8 and shooting wide open as you don't really need to stop down the m43 lenses for sharpness. So in the real world the lens on offer is tiny and cheap and still has exposure based on the 1.8 f-stop.
@@larrychicco1062Don’t get me wrong - I’m a m43 “fan” and I use it almost daily. The compact size of the kit is important to me. A can get a couple of camera bodies with 12-60 and 50-200mm lenses in my bike bag, for example. However, it is not a budget option. I could buy a full frame system covering the same (equivalent) lens range for the same money.
My combo of choice is a G9 ( Mk1) plus the 12-100 Olympus ( like the manual/auto focus clutch on the lens too ) I believe both were from MPB funnily enough ( ok that’s not particularly funny , but true :) thanks guys! Vindicated 😊
I ditched the full frame for MFT last summer, and I haven't regretted it. What you get in compactness and price is amazing, and yes, the image quality isn't on par with full frame, but it isn't far from it. I can't see the difference in my photos, but I'm rarely shoot fast paced low light anyway, and I don't need everything to be out of focus. I know how to compose my photos 😉
I love Micro Four Thirds. My first was the E-P1 which I had bought for $15 with two lenses. Unfortunately I bricked it while attempting a firmware update. Now I use the GX9 and Pen-F which are excellent options.
I graduated from 4/3 and ordered the E-M1. I now have the E-M5ii and the E-PL10 Pen as well. The Pen is my favorite. PS: I used the original Pen 1/2 frame 35mm film camera when stationed in Korea in 1966.
Had a Panasonic gm1 previously, paired it with the only 17mm f1.8, performed really well with good single auto focus. If it had IBIS that would be the icing on the cake. Unfortunately I dropped the camera from a height of 1m, ended up bending the chassis and now it no longer works. It was bought 2nd hand in 2017 for 100 dollars, interestingly the asking price on the 2nd hand market in 2024 is now 300+
My problem with micro four thirds is that there are so many APSC cameras now (and a few full frame) that are very very small which give you excellent portable options. The Sony A6XXX line is very compact and the latest ones have every feature you could need and tons of compact lenses. Fuji obviously has many compact ILC bodies and small fixed lens cameras as well. Though the x-e4, t30, and t100 like IBIS they will probably replace the t30 and e4 in the next year and will add IBIS since this is the trend for their cameras and they will need to compete with sony. The T5/T4/H2 are really not that much bigger than M43 cameras and the Fuji X mount lens lineup has tons of high quality compact options. But I would be interested in a M43 fixed lens compact like a new pen F.
M43 continues to be under rated, especially as compared to APSC since the general image quality is very close to APSC and M43 usually has a big form factor/portability advantage. By the way Yamaha not only makes motorized vehicles and pianos as well as electronic keyboards but also a wide range of electric and acoustic/classical guitars. That's some diversity!
Ive got the tiny Olympus EPL 5 that along with an attachable EVF thats great in bright sunshine. Ive been watching you guys since your old digital rev days. Your both awesome together. I miss Alamby and wish you guys could do some reunited videos with her or bring her back full time if possible, she is as cute as a button and her smile was always a welcome sight to behold. Thanks again.
I've been a micro four thirds fan since 2012 when I was 18. An art degree, some mental health issues and an adult life later, I had no idea there was a cadre of avid micro four thirds fans just waiting for me to find. Also, it was Kai that convinced me to get my first Lumix new from the camera store all those years back. Feels like home, despite being away for a decade or so.
I mostly use big bodies with big lenses on m43, but I would love to see some more small-ish gear released in the future. Weather-sealed 25/1.8 and 45/1.8, Pen-F mark ii - where are you? :D
I picked up an EP-5 and a 14-42 lens from a reseller in Japan. I love the looks and the small form factor, and they're way cheaper than an overpriced X100.
i'll stay in the APS-C camp with my Fuji. Since i got that lovely 75mm f1.2 i dont miss my Sony A7 and Sigma 135mm 1.8 anymore - its just as good, at half the weight and price. i still can go compact if i like but also have some more lattitude in post compared to MFT. Had the EM1 Mark II and EM5 Mark II in 2017/2018, and they served very well. Most images i took with either the 17mm 1.8 or 75mm 1.8, but i also had the 12-40 and 40-150 2.8 both of which were very sharp, but still prefered the primes. After that i switched to Sony, first the A7 RII followed by the A7 III, and almost 4 years ago i went Fuji, first with the X-T30, now X-H2. The longest time i've stayed with a system yet, and still in love with it.
The reason i stick with m43 is because i feel I'm getting mugged with the price of full frame lenses. They reel you in and before you know it you've spent 10k on the things. I'll just go out with my 20mm, 14-140 and 100-300 and be happy. Not saying that's what everyone else should do but i hate how expensive glass is these days. They are taking the mick and the way photography is heading i don't think that's a good move.
i think you make a good case for MFT. If you were going to document travels outdoors on a bicycle in all kinds of weather, and wanted good stills AND 4k video, slow motion and a sprinkle of astrophotography...what camera would you choose? olympus tg7? Lumix s5iix or GH9ii? an OM system OM1/5, EM5, Fuji xh2s?, Sony zv1,gx100ii, Xperia IV phone?, an Osmo Action4? a pocket3?...like what's the best swiss army knife camera you can think of thats fun, mobile with good weatherproofing and battery life?
If Panasonic would just cram the G9II into a GM1 or GX850 body they'd have the next tik tok hype camera. Bonus if there's a flip up screen to be in the photos too.
@@overnightdelivery Amazing it's so huge considering its limited capabilities. Sony's A7C line is the same size, and is ridiculously ahead in terms of doing everything.
as a G85 user, yes, nice pictures, video, light, compact, rigid and affordable price.. not to mention superb ibis, 4k, now up to 25mp and long last battery, oh not to mention weather proof
Well...this is an interesting video to see pop up. Been watching a whole bunch of videos on mirrorless systems since the last thing I bought for camera systems was a Nikon D810 in 2016 (which is still serving me very well). Finally decided on something and bought a Nikon 1 V1 w/ adapter for my F-mount lenses (also uses the same battery as my D810, so I have a bunch of batteries already) and an Olympus E-P3 with kit lens...both used and VERY inexpensive. Stoked to have some fun new cameras to play around with when I don't need to use the big boy.
Love my G9 and GX85 with Lumix Leica 15mm f1.4. Lumix Leica 9mm f1.7 is another excellent lens! I paired GX85 with 14mm f2.5 for street photography (don't like 35mm anyway).
I left m43 for Fuji since Olympus turned to OM Systems. The thing I miss the most is the IBIS and how steady you can get with video. The size of the camera + lenses used to be an M43 advantage, but I feel Fuji overtook them there. Their 1.4/1.2 glass is just as big if not smaller than the Olympus ones, and of course you got the f2 fujicrons. You even have cameras as small as the X-E4 that beats out m43 in compactness, and then obviously the x100 series cameras (although fixed lens, keeps that 35mm f2 equivalent tiny)
@@IvoTichelaar neither is that tiny lumix camera. You can get used 'like new' x-e3 thats still higher resolution than most m43 cameras for around $800. An X-t5 even, is just about the same size as an E-M5 III, with smaller pro lenses. I just don't see the size advantage in M43 anymore. You do have that crazy good IBIS in those m43 camera bodies though
The thing about APS-C is that the sensor is big enough that you can get really shallow depth of field and pretty decent low light performance out of them. Not to mention because the market is much bigger, there's been way more innovation and the sensor tech is better, so you get full frame DR levels. For a small setup, I feel they are the sweet spot. When you want quality, just get a medium format film camera which nothing digital can touch 😂
love my GH5ii and S5 combo. GH5ii makes top notch videos and the S5 is just a great hybrid camera. When i want a straight photography session then ill pull out my 5D Mark IV
It's a shame the PEN, GX, and GM lines seem to be in limbo... I keep my GM1/GX850 around almost exclusively for the Oly 75/1.8 and Pana 35-100, but for most wide/prime purposes my FF kit isn't any larger than my E-M5 III kit was. The Oly 8-25 isn't much lighter than a Tamron 17-50/4...
What's the shutter speed? 1/1000th? Plus the bit rate? 1Mbps? What went wrong? BTW I have had a bunch of m43 cameras (4, vs. 3 DSLRs) and still use them for shooting wildlife quite a lot, but the low pixel counts (vs 42..60MP FF cameras) mean you need to be tighter to the subject to get a decent number of pixels over it and then it's really hard to see something arriving or to follow it afterwards (BTW the Oly Red Dot sight really does help there!). I think they need something in the 34..38MP to help with that, plus sales in China just won't go anywhere at 20..25MP and ignoring that market seems brave (err, crazy?). Impressed my GH3, GH4 and GH5 are now kinda small compared to the GH7... I may get one, but it's bigger than many higher-end FF cameras... Plus more expensive than some of their FF cameras...
Getting a m4/3 camera with stabilization for travel is one reason I'd still buy m4/3 in 2024 and beyond. If you're just shooting stuff you'd shre online or digitally, 12MP or more is more than plenty, even for 4k video (which only requires about 10MP to be on the safe side). Sure m4/3 cameras may not have the high ISO noise performance of APSC and FF but with modern denoising tech, noise in images is not really an issue anymoore and you can make an ISO 6400 image ook like an ISO 200 or 400 image or better with most cameras regardless of sensor size and modern DeNoising tools. The only real downside with m4/3 is when you start getting into some of the mid-range and higher-end bodies, as they cost about as much as a FF or APSC camera and in some cases are the same size/weight (only the lenses are generally smaller and lighter than FF). But compared to APSC, it seems that some lenses and bodies are about th same in most aspects (cost, size, weight) so in those cases, APSC may be a better option since the size/weight/cost benefit of m4/3 sort of goes out the door.
Make micro four thirds small and fun againnnn!! 🙏🙌📷
I hope there is a rangefinder style coming soon from Lumix - I see they cancelled the GX9. But I also noticed the G100 is actually quite a tiny camera, though I'm in no hurry to upgrade from my GX85, working well for me :)
Hoping OM get it together to make an OM-10
Yes! Also aps-c. Fujifilm is currently bigger than more than a couple fullframe cameras despite the teeny mount. I am just waiting with my GRIII and shelf of XF lenses for small, fun cameras to come back into style.
Olympics is coming again though so I'm expecting everyone to double down on mega gear for sports and wildlife. 😢
It's not clear to me M43 will have the same size advantage it before when we have cameras like the sigma fp and x100vi with significantly bigger sensors that are also pocketable.
@@cornellouis it can still be smaller. X100VI is the size of the a7CII which is full frame. The X100 could even be smaller than it is.
Can’t talk about micro 4/3 without thinking about the late, great, David Thorpe
RUclips's most pleasant.
May he rest in peace🫶🏻
Genuinely brought such a good and needed perspective in the gear obsessed world of photography RUclips. Down to earth, approachable, and so charming along the way.
He was one of those people that felt so familiar even if you'd never met them. Missed by many.
Yeah, he's truly missed
There was something so professorial about David Thorpe. No one explained things quite like a man who had been taking photos for 50+ years.
Oh no I didn't know he passed! When? 😮 I loved his videos
I just bought a G9ii, it's basically the perfect camera, at least for me. The incredible stabilization in video is enough to make me buy one, no more wobbly corner with UWA lenses and no more gimbal is a game changer. Then you factor in the excellent autofocus, robust codec, size, lens selection, all the amazing video features and assist tools ... it's a no brainer.
I agree, I love my G9II as well. People complaint it's too big for M43 but there's time I want such body size for its ergonomics esp. when fitted with heavier lens. I also kept my GX8 too for light travel.
@@12ay Its the same size as the original G9, never heard anyone complain about it back then
Hmmm, was there a FW update that eliminated the wobbly corners? I saw a video a while back with S5 II vs G9 II, same focal length, mounted together for the same movement, and they both had similar levels of corner wobble. I think both had issues with vignetting moving all over the place, too. Is there in-camera vignetting correction in video for the G9 II?
I want a smaller sized g9ii.
With some corner cuts, obviously. But that would be my perfect camera. No more than 500 grams body with battery.
I'm using a ten year old em-10 fairly casually for ten years and its been the perfect camera to learn on: all the features you could need, but forgiving and approachable to carry and fumble around with.
Powershot SX or Powershot G - provides the same, but much more good range at shadows. Same for Sony RX or Sony HX
@@nikostalk5730 How can the powershot with a sensor much smaller than the MFT have much better range at shadows ?
@@spinninginfinity-tk2ve due to stupidity of MFT manufacturers. We all love to work by "WYSIWYG" rule, the best solution to any camera. And never to old Olympus\Panasonic cameras. From stock JPG - this camera making bad shadows, and you will never know about this issue until one day. The only solution is - *roll the drums* - to overbright the image before taking a shot (!). This is awful. And even after - you will be needed to use a RAW file format to process highlights (!). What in this world is wrong about those guys?
I've tested old SX210is and E-PL3 with stock 14-42lens on closest possible settings. And powershot wins anyway.
No awful noise on iso200, no bad shadows, no RAW manipulations to get nice "low key" images, good macro, good usability, internal IS, big zoom, and fun to use!
The only two bright (joke) sides of E-PL3:
good colors;
good battery life;
A friend of mine used E-PM1 along with Panasoic 20 f1.7 and Fujinon 25 f1.4, and got insanely good pictures, and were shocked when i tell him about shadows issue, he just never met the issue, since he used over +0.7..+1.0 correction. And also a faster aperture while me used only stock f3.5 to f5.6...
A Pen-F style camera with phase detect autofocus and fixed 25mm (50mm equiv) f1.7 lens would be heaven for me
As Panasonic already has a 14mm f2.5 pancake, that you can put on a Pen-F, that doesn’t make much sense at all. It would be enough to bring a beautiful and compact body with an evf. For me personally, the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 pancake was my personal favorite.
@@Benjamin_Jehne 14mm f2.5 is miles away from a 25mm f1.7. And a fixed lens could be designed to be just as compact
@@jamesstanley7263 the 20mm f1.7 is closer to what you want, and its great. There is a 25mm Lumix prime too but it's just over being pocketable. I don't love the 50mm length so I went wider.
Olympus epm2 with the 20mm 1.7 is a match made in heaven even to this day
@@7evive Roger that. PM2 > GM1 Lumix colors never seem warm enough.
Kind of magenta and lime green. 🤷🏻♀️
I love my EM1 Mark III and the M43 system. I sell my work on-line and in galleries and no one has ever asked me what I shoot with except other photographers that don't buy art work, lol!
Waiting for olympus pen -f. That is simply one of the most beautiful cameras in rangefinder style that is also reasonably compact.
Hey there guys.. i just bought 3 GH5 MK 2s for my work. And, I got two OM 8-25 f4s and an OM 12-100 f4. I also have an S5II but trying to build out 2 more of those with suitable glass was just more than I can spend right now. I just finished a project in NYC and had a day to go take photos around the city and central park. I've been focused on telephoto lenses for so long I never knew how great wide angle lenses could be. Nearly instantly I moved to the 8-25 and stayed on that for the rest of the day. It was an awesome learning experience. I can't wait to go out and do more. Now I've got my eyes on on a set of Sigma primes.. they are still on sale from black Friday.
Cheers
Rick
Wonderful! M43 rules , though I want to see more retro M43 cameras like the PEN
I went to M43 eighteen months ago for the reasons that you highlight: size, cost, variety. I own a G9 & GX9 with a variety of lenses zooms and primes.
For the exact same reasons I migrated to Nikon DSLR land.
Is there a compact nikon you like? @@Pozi_Drive
It feels like there's been a big uptick in people buying up m4/3 gear on MPB lately.
For me it's still the sweet spot between image quality, size and price. Being able to get something the Panny Leica primes for a few hundred quid is something you can't get in other systems.
What interchangeable lens camera system is there with worse image quality? Which M4/3 camera offers a better IQ to size ratio than a Fuji X-E4?
to be fair something like 50 2.5G produces the same result as 25 1.4 and is very similar in terms of weight and size. but when it comes to compact zooms and primes m43 is the king, on top of that 15 1.7 in my opinion is by far the best 28mm option on any system and paired with smaller lumix bodies makes for a great street/travel set up
@@TheUrbanEpicure old DSLR's, any camera phone.
Obviously modern full frame and APS-C cameras are better but that Fuji is triple the price of a GX85 or something like a EM-5, with lenses being bigger and a lot more expensive too.
@@Cubeforc3You're comparing apples to oranges. Larger formats produce significantly better results. Comparing lenses of the same performance always shows that there's no size benefits to MFT, instead you get overpriced gear. Olympus sells f/1.7 lenses as "pro" options, when they're actually equivalent to f/3.5 full frame alternatives. In truth, MFT exists to sell sub par things to gullible people.
sweet spot is a canon 100D or 200D, MFT - surely no
It has tons of advantages, and offsetting downsides too. I like MFT because when I am travelling the last thing I want is heavy camera gear, plus it can be super affordable used. The easy access to good 4k video is another plus!
Modern full frame gear is smaller, lighter and cheaper than MFT alternatives that bring the same performance...
@@youknowwho9247 Sadly, that is true, especially when you are looking at the higher end MFT bodies like the OM1. It's still the case that MFT lenses are substantially lighter than FF, especially at the long end .. but not always! If Lumix doesn't roll out more smaller bodies, then the size advantage of MFT will disappear. Luckily I buy used so I still have many years before I get up to the present-day offerings :D
@@youknowwho9247 This. It's absoultely amazing how small FF has become, and how large m4/3 has grown to. m4/3 NEEDs to leverage its potential size advantage if it hopes to survive.
@@youknowwho9247really? I'm interested in a nice FF cheap and small setup. Can you recommend one?
I picked up a used EM1X for about $800 and love it. But now I need to shop an EP1! I have so many fond memories snapping family photos in 2009.
Kai and Lok are the reason I sold my soul to Olympus back in 2012. No regrets.
Well, the M4\3 was a slightly good. But Canon 1100D were better at EVERYTHING, thank God i sold the e-pl3, which can't handle bad light conditions...
It’s so nice to see Kai and Lok back making videos since the days of DigitalRev, really helped me find my passion for photography
I think one of the greatest benefits of MFT is the incredible selection of lenses. Even ignoring native lenses, with adapters, you can put just about any lens on an MFT camera. Focal reducers are a thing as well.
Well then, Sony E-mount will blow you away. Has at least 3x the lenses of m4/3, and can adapt the same non-native lenses, including those made for m4/3!
Original G9 has the option of programming the front two buttons to focus near and far respectively, which sorts most issues with distance focussing. I use it often.
Dannnng that is awesome! I need to see if my Gx85 can do that. For astrophotography I would want distance focus with a button press. Not that that camera is, ahem, ideal for astrophotography...
@@busydadscooking001 Afraid not. I also have the GX80 and, awesome camera though it is, and indeed it has some features missing from its newer big brother, it does not have this one.
It would be really nice to see a new PEN-F or something of the like. The OM-1 II and G9II are fantastic cameras, but neither are particularly compact. Considering the popularity of the X100 range you’d think there’s a gap in the market for some more compact retro options.
OM System are sleeping on a gold mine. They could release a new Pen-F and some fixed lens models (35 equivalent and a zoom one) and make bank... Especially since their JPEG profiles are also awesome. I mean, I'd be down even for a new Pen with a vertical sensor, akin to the half frame format they had in the 60s; in fact, I was holding my Pen W recently and thinking "gosh I wish there was something like this but digital"; I'd give extra points for a shutter speed ring around the lens hehe. I just hope they make all models with a viewfinder.
Since both OM-1 and G9II are intended to be attached with super telephoto lenses, they aren't particularly compact
I have just changed from Nikon full frame - D6 and D850 - to OM Sytems OM-1 Mk ii Mainly due to advancing years and still want travel. I am really pleased with the move.
@@DavidL5starGood choice! I had the first version of the OM-1 and the new model seems to solve most of the quirks - it's a fantastic camera.
My E-M10 MkIII does all the things. I carry it in a (albeit large) pocket in my coats, or I just swing it around with a fall away bag.
Just bought an G9II and is an amazing camera, I love it!
MFT is love, I'm sick and tired of people yelling "MFT is dead" every single year when the format is going strong still! My favorite lens is the Pana-Leica 15mm, absolute gem.
Yeah, the Pana-Leica 15mm is the best lens I've ever had the pleasure of using. It singlehandedly makes MFT 'worth it' :)
MFT is dead, accept it as a real world, pls
@@nikostalk5730 never was
@@nikostalk5730I agree. These delusional people saying otherwise is trying too hard. You either roll with compact digital (which is the reason why used 2000's digipocket is fetching high price now) or FF digital, or film camera. 4/3 is dead.
@@anggaros1 Nonsense.
I have a G9 and 4 tiny fast primes and love it. Image quality is great weight is light. Great for street photography and a secondary body for my landscape photography. I also have FF Lumix S1R and Medium Format Pentax 645z. All formats have their place for different situations.
I sold my G80 last year and bought the S5II and I don't know what it is, but I found my G80 more fun to use and I even think the images / video I used to capture from it are better than what I take with my S5II. Not saying I'll go back to the G80 but it was my first ever camera that I know I used to its full potential and I was very happy / satisfied using it.
Thanks. Don't forget macro photography, m43 could get you higher magnification with deeper DOF.
Well, identical magnification (in a strictly technical optical sense) but way more pixels on subject which is what you meant anyway.
@@gabedamien You are right. In fact Olympus has a 90mm/f3.5 m43 macro lenses that produces true 2X magnification. Together with the Focus stacking feature of OM, it open up more possibilities for macro photos as compared to other systems imo.
Weirdly I've been looking a M4/3 recently. Just because I want something really small and light weight that I can easily pocket. Missed out on getting an old Olympus E-PL7 the other day that was going for a bargain price on a website. It looked pretty solid for an old little camera!
Of the Pens, that is probably my favourite camera. I managed to get hold of a full black one for with the EZ and flash for about €120. That one is not going anywhere.
I love MFT. G9 is my favorite camera of all time. Love the GH5 II, looking forward to getting the G9 II. I am always amazed at the variety of lens types I can always have with me.
I don't shoot on M4/3 but I really appreciate this video. I'm a full-time photographer who has his gear provided for him. At the office, I'm on full frame Canon. But at home, I'm on APS-C Fuji cameras. Depending on the day my Canon gear might make it home with me for certain things or my Fuji gear might make it into the office for certain things. I get really annoyed with people who say that to be a pro, you need to be on full-frame, or that full-frame is inherently better than APS-C or M4/3 because of blah, blah, blah. Depth of field and low light noise. Objectively, full-frame is going to produce less of these two things, but at this point in camera technology and lens availability, neither of those are challenges that can't be dealt with if you know what you're doing. To anyone out there who says that full-frame sensors will always produce a better image, I'd challenge them to look at my photos side-by-side and tell me which one is shot with the Canon and which is shot with the Fuji.
My friend lent me full frame kit and my low light photos are abbysmal, I use Fuji daily so I know full well how to use Fuji
Point is, learn to love the kit and grow with it.
I recently bought a GF10 and the nocticron 42.5mm 1.2 lol... it is hilarious and I absolutely love it. I also picked up the PL 15 1.7 and that's a lot of fun, but the nocticron is something special. The GF10 has a little grip on the front that is perfect when you put on a big lens.
Right as I’m currently researching which m43 camera to get for compact travel. Such impeccable timing b
EM5 or OM5 has probably the best feature/weight ratio. Pair it with a 12-100 f4 Pro and you're golden.
The 20mm 1.7 alone is a good enough reason to get into MFT. It's such a great lens!
Meanwhile I wish for a pancake 25mm 1.x
The Lumix? Bruh Fuji 27 f2.8 is just in same league. Same 40 focal length, same slow AF and Fuji's is WR
@@trym2121f2.8 in APSC is f4.2 in FF vs f1.7 is f3.4 in FF. Not quite the same.
I have this lens paired with a used GX80 and you have a perfect alternative for the hyped x100v/I for under 500 bucks
Have exactly that: GX80 and 20mm f1.7 and it's sweet!
M43 rocks . Hated lugging FF gear around, love taking m43 gear out ! Which is what it’s all about at the end of the day
Had an EP-5 with Oly 17/1.8, PanaLeica 25/1.4, and Oly 45/1.8. This was a great little package. Took the camera with the 17 to a business trip to NYC and brought back some amazing shots.
No joke, tried hard to find an Olympus PEN-F at a good price for my brother-in-law as a present, they are still expensive as hell.
don't buy them, they are literally a 1-inch cameras, but expensive as hell
sold my e-pl3 in exchange to 650D, and it was like the switch from being poor straight to Elon Musk
@@nikostalk5730 skill issue
@@nikostalk5730 that is....quite the analogy.
@@nikostalk5730"literally a-1 inch cameras" no, they're four-thirds of an inch, so bigger than 1-inch. The Nikon 1 system had 1 inch sensors.
@@nikostalk5730 They're not literally 1-inch sensor cameras, the sensor is four thirds of an inch (which is where the name for the system comes from). So about 80% more sensor area than 1-inch sensors like the Sony RX100 series.
À gx9 successor with real time lut would be a really serious competitor to Fuji x100 and xe series. I just don’t understand why panasonic prioritize m43 with full frame size bodies…
I'd preorder day 1!
Now I realised that I have missed your videos. Welcome back!
Still use my GH5 to this day. Absolute beast of a camera even by today's standards
If youve made peace with the autofocus, then you may never need to upgrade.
The Pen F was one of my favourite cameras. Sold it in pursuit of more this or better that. Might look into 4/3rds again.
as a macro shooter the tiny body and deeper dof for micro 4/3 is the best
Kai, have followed you on social media for 15+ years. Haven't seen a decent image taken by you yet😂🤣🤣
Seriously 😂 I honestly feel like its a running gag. It doesnt matter how cheap or expensive the camera is, you can still take a crappy photo with it😅
I got into MFT as a cheap way to experience the world of mirrorless camera but also be my backup to my main Canon 70D. Never looked back or regret it! Would note that in an alternative time, I would've gotten an Sony Alpha NEX 6 but in this line, the low price of MFT in the used market is the deciding factor when I was shopping around. Oh and no, im not a working professional photography/video maker so I dont mind the picture or video quality too much.
From the moment I hand held a 3 second exposure on a G9II and OM-1 I was sold, handheld high res too? its SICK! Nothing else does that.
Love for the shot at 04:50, like catching a glimpse of a scene right out of a fairytale.
Still don't want to sell my M4/3 lenses, because I'm longing for a new "small" Camera with that mount (imagine a GX9 successor with the sensor of the G9II).
Check out Lumix G100. This is not a pro camera but is a good tool as a stills camera!
Recently I got a E-M5 1st gen with 14-42 lens. It's so cuuuute.
Hi guys, thanks for the video. I opted for MFT due mainly to weight, or lack of it. I'm ageing, with a bad back and knees. I can now take a selection of lenses out for a day's shoot, and even use my Weebil S gimbal for four hours. Also, and importantly, I take images of flowers and depth of field can be vital, so the lack of bokeh is great. If I need blurring of the background, I have a delightful 25mm (50mm equiv) F1.4 Leica lens for that. At F2.8 it's magic. I've got a GH2, and 2 x G9s, one of which will be replaced with a GH6 soon. I've also had a G7. I've got 5 lenses: the 25mm, a prime 45mm (90) macro (courtesy of MPB), and 12-60 (double it yourself,also via MPB), a 14-140 (best kit lens I've ever had) and a 100-300. The in-camera stabilisation on the G9 is superb and I have shot 300mm (600 equiv) hand-held with great results. Thanks again for the video. MFT is a bit niche, but if the niche suits you, it's the answer to your prayers.
All the lenses i have seem sharp corner to corner with good contrast. Something that seems to lack in the more budget friendly full frame options. I know there is the equivalence argument but the M43 lenses just seem such great value.
I have the 100-400 but often use the 100-300. 600mm fov with such a small lens. Crazy.
Its the quality of the lenses for me that stops me moving to full frame as my main camera. I have the Z5 but only use the 24-200 and 40mm F2. They are great but i don't feel the urge to build up a collection like i have done with M43.
If the Panasonic G9ii price goes down I would consider a buy since I already own four lenses for the G9.
Also, the phase focus and the considerable amount of video modes/formats that are available. Even more then Sony.
A few dealers had it for $500 off in a trade-in promo last month, so I bought one. It's a big upgrade from the prior 20MP sensors, and the PDAF is a huge improvement over their DFD AF. You will love it if you get one.
I picked up a used GH5 last year for $500 and it’s such a fantastic camera. Micro 4/3rds lenses are incredible for the price and overall super happy that I switched from Canon EF.
Back in the day sensor manufacturing cost was a very significant factor in determining overall system cost. This is no longer true. Lens manufacturing cost now dominates. M43 lenses are much more difficult to manufacture than the equivalent full frame lens. Consider, for example, a f/1.8 50mm lens capable of resolving 20 Mpixels on a full frame sensor. The equivalent f/0.9 25mm lens capable of resolving 20 Mpixels on a M43 sensor is a much bigger engineering challenge, and will require a much more complex and expensive design. It seems to me that full frame will therefore eventually become the realm of the amateur photographer and M43 will probably be mainly the realm of professional videographers, where the high readout speed of small sensors is crucial.
I think you're overestimating the engineering challenge and ignoring the cost of glass. Big ground elements are more expensive than small ground elements.
@@larrychicco1062 Lenses with equivalent performance in terms of light gathering power and ability to render the same depth of field have the same aperture size - and hence similar element diameters. Consider my f/1.8 50mm and f/0.9 25mm comparison, for example. The elements will have similar diameter, but the latter design will need more elements and probably more (expensive) aspherical elements to correct for aberrations.
@@Stephen.Bingham ah I get you. But then I don't think m43 users are shooting 25mm .9. They're just using 25mm 1.8 and shooting wide open as you don't really need to stop down the m43 lenses for sharpness. So in the real world the lens on offer is tiny and cheap and still has exposure based on the 1.8 f-stop.
@@larrychicco1062Don’t get me wrong - I’m a m43 “fan” and I use it almost daily. The compact size of the kit is important to me. A can get a couple of camera bodies with 12-60 and 50-200mm lenses in my bike bag, for example. However, it is not a budget option. I could buy a full frame system covering the same (equivalent) lens range for the same money.
My combo of choice is a G9 ( Mk1) plus the 12-100 Olympus ( like the manual/auto focus clutch on the lens too ) I believe both were from MPB funnily enough ( ok that’s not particularly funny , but true :) thanks guys! Vindicated 😊
I just bought myself a used Panasonic G5 to go with my excellent GX80. I find it small, light and a lot of fun for everyday shooting.
I ditched the full frame for MFT last summer, and I haven't regretted it. What you get in compactness and price is amazing, and yes, the image quality isn't on par with full frame, but it isn't far from it. I can't see the difference in my photos, but I'm rarely shoot fast paced low light anyway, and I don't need everything to be out of focus. I know how to compose my photos 😉
For street, macro and product the increased dof can be a big plus.
I love Micro Four Thirds. My first was the E-P1 which I had bought for $15 with two lenses. Unfortunately I bricked it while attempting a firmware update. Now I use the GX9 and Pen-F which are excellent options.
I graduated from 4/3 and ordered the E-M1. I now have the E-M5ii and the E-PL10 Pen as well. The Pen is my favorite.
PS: I used the original Pen 1/2 frame 35mm film camera when stationed in Korea in 1966.
Appreciate giving justice to Micro 3/4s having you and Lok to consider them. Still you both best combo since Digital Rev.
My main camera is a GH6. I like it very much. ✌️
Had a Panasonic gm1 previously, paired it with the only 17mm f1.8, performed really well with good single auto focus. If it had IBIS that would be the icing on the cake.
Unfortunately I dropped the camera from a height of 1m, ended up bending the chassis and now it no longer works.
It was bought 2nd hand in 2017 for 100 dollars, interestingly the asking price on the 2nd hand market in 2024 is now 300+
My problem with micro four thirds is that there are so many APSC cameras now (and a few full frame) that are very very small which give you excellent portable options. The Sony A6XXX line is very compact and the latest ones have every feature you could need and tons of compact lenses. Fuji obviously has many compact ILC bodies and small fixed lens cameras as well. Though the x-e4, t30, and t100 like IBIS they will probably replace the t30 and e4 in the next year and will add IBIS since this is the trend for their cameras and they will need to compete with sony. The T5/T4/H2 are really not that much bigger than M43 cameras and the Fuji X mount lens lineup has tons of high quality compact options.
But I would be interested in a M43 fixed lens compact like a new pen F.
M43 continues to be under rated, especially as compared to APSC since the general image quality is very close to APSC and M43 usually has a big form factor/portability advantage.
By the way Yamaha not only makes motorized vehicles and pianos as well as electronic keyboards but also a wide range of electric and acoustic/classical guitars. That's some diversity!
Ive got the tiny Olympus EPL 5 that along with an attachable EVF thats great in bright sunshine. Ive been watching you guys since your old digital rev days. Your both awesome together. I miss Alamby and wish you guys could do some reunited videos with her or bring her back full time if possible, she is as cute as a button and her smile was always a welcome sight to behold. Thanks again.
I echo what a lot of others have said-would love to see a new version of Pen-f with flexible film simulation settings to rival the X100vi.
I lusted after an OM-5 when I had no money. When I did, I went Fuji (X-S10) and love it to bits. The whole Olympus sell=off put me off.
I've been a micro four thirds fan since 2012 when I was 18. An art degree, some mental health issues and an adult life later, I had no idea there was a cadre of avid micro four thirds fans just waiting for me to find. Also, it was Kai that convinced me to get my first Lumix new from the camera store all those years back. Feels like home, despite being away for a decade or so.
I just bought an olympus e-pl8 with the 14-42mm f3.5/5.6 for 80$ in excellent condition, it is small but surprisingly capable! I'll keep this one .
I'm a big fan of the M43 G9ii by Panasonic. I hope they release a G6ii with updated phase detect AF because that would be even better!
I really love that you are together again. I think i started watching you since 2016?
MFT forever. GM1, GX7, GX8, GX850, G9. Yay. Thanks. toronto canada.
I use 4/3's quite a bit. Have ASPC and full frame. Reason for all.
My GH1 with the OG pancake 20mm is still taking care of business on a daily basis. It's a combination that really has earned its corn.
Yay micro4/3😽
I got into amateur photography with a Panasonic G10 and my favourite photos have been taken on this. Love a good micro 4/3's
I love that intro 😂 We've got multiple reasons, well, at least one reason 🤣🤣
I mostly use big bodies with big lenses on m43, but I would love to see some more small-ish gear released in the future. Weather-sealed 25/1.8 and 45/1.8, Pen-F mark ii - where are you? :D
I picked up an EP-5 and a 14-42 lens from a reseller in Japan. I love the looks and the small form factor, and they're way cheaper than an overpriced X100.
M4/3 for the win! I’m keeping mine for those lenses… the teles and the wides… great size, weight, built quality and performance 👌🏻
i'll stay in the APS-C camp with my Fuji. Since i got that lovely 75mm f1.2 i dont miss my Sony A7 and Sigma 135mm 1.8 anymore - its just as good, at half the weight and price. i still can go compact if i like but also have some more lattitude in post compared to MFT. Had the EM1 Mark II and EM5 Mark II in 2017/2018, and they served very well. Most images i took with either the 17mm 1.8 or 75mm 1.8, but i also had the 12-40 and 40-150 2.8 both of which were very sharp, but still prefered the primes. After that i switched to Sony, first the A7 RII followed by the A7 III, and almost 4 years ago i went Fuji, first with the X-T30, now X-H2. The longest time i've stayed with a system yet, and still in love with it.
Best kit for portraits (even in low light) - EPL5+ and 45mm 1.8 in grainy film b/w mode.
That's my favorite lens. 2nd is the panny 14-140.
I'm still rocking on my EM10 MKii, paired with the legendary 17mm, f1.8 lens (equiv. 34mm full frame) 😍🔥
The reason i stick with m43 is because i feel I'm getting mugged with the price of full frame lenses.
They reel you in and before you know it you've spent 10k on the things.
I'll just go out with my 20mm, 14-140 and 100-300 and be happy.
Not saying that's what everyone else should do but i hate how expensive glass is these days.
They are taking the mick and the way photography is heading i don't think that's a good move.
Just picked up a GM5 as an alternative to my EM1 ii :) I love m43!
there is a market and a place for each sensor size, I main an APS-C and pocket carry an old 5.1mp Olympus point-and-shoot when out and about.
Which park is this? I feel like I’ve been there but I can’t place it and it’s driving me nuts
Same here😂
@@London_drivespainshill park just west of cobham, just inside the m25.
Micro Four Thirds forever! picked up a gh1 for $70
i think you make a good case for MFT. If you were going to document travels outdoors on a bicycle in all kinds of weather, and wanted good stills AND 4k video, slow motion and a sprinkle of astrophotography...what camera would you choose? olympus tg7? Lumix s5iix or GH9ii? an OM system OM1/5, EM5, Fuji xh2s?, Sony zv1,gx100ii, Xperia IV phone?, an Osmo Action4? a pocket3?...like what's the best swiss army knife camera you can think of thats fun, mobile with good weatherproofing and battery life?
If Panasonic would just cram the G9II into a GM1 or GX850 body they'd have the next tik tok hype camera. Bonus if there's a flip up screen to be in the photos too.
You actually predicted what Panasonic attempted to do with the S9. But they screwed up by trying to cram a Full Frame sensor into it.
@@overnightdelivery Amazing it's so huge considering its limited capabilities. Sony's A7C line is the same size, and is ridiculously ahead in terms of doing everything.
as a G85 user, yes, nice pictures, video, light, compact, rigid and affordable price.. not to mention superb ibis, 4k, now up to 25mp and long last battery, oh not to mention weather proof
Well...this is an interesting video to see pop up. Been watching a whole bunch of videos on mirrorless systems since the last thing I bought for camera systems was a Nikon D810 in 2016 (which is still serving me very well). Finally decided on something and bought a Nikon 1 V1 w/ adapter for my F-mount lenses (also uses the same battery as my D810, so I have a bunch of batteries already) and an Olympus E-P3 with kit lens...both used and VERY inexpensive. Stoked to have some fun new cameras to play around with when I don't need to use the big boy.
Love my G9 and GX85 with Lumix Leica 15mm f1.4. Lumix Leica 9mm f1.7 is another excellent lens! I paired GX85 with 14mm f2.5 for street photography (don't like 35mm anyway).
micro4/3rds is awesome. Really hope they keep pushing development in the m4/3rds space.
I bought a om-5 recently, do you know a good guide to understand how to use it? :)
How does this compare to the gh5?
that's what I wanna know
Better dynamic range, better colors, slightly better IBIS, and way better AF
I left m43 for Fuji since Olympus turned to OM Systems. The thing I miss the most is the IBIS and how steady you can get with video.
The size of the camera + lenses used to be an M43 advantage, but I feel Fuji overtook them there. Their 1.4/1.2 glass is just as big if not smaller than the Olympus ones, and of course you got the f2 fujicrons.
You even have cameras as small as the X-E4 that beats out m43 in compactness, and then obviously the x100 series cameras (although fixed lens, keeps that 35mm f2 equivalent tiny)
X-E4 is not a current model. It is small though.
@@IvoTichelaar neither is that tiny lumix camera. You can get used 'like new' x-e3 thats still higher resolution than most m43 cameras for around $800.
An X-t5 even, is just about the same size as an E-M5 III, with smaller pro lenses. I just don't see the size advantage in M43 anymore.
You do have that crazy good IBIS in those m43 camera bodies though
The thing about APS-C is that the sensor is big enough that you can get really shallow depth of field and pretty decent low light performance out of them. Not to mention because the market is much bigger, there's been way more innovation and the sensor tech is better, so you get full frame DR levels. For a small setup, I feel they are the sweet spot. When you want quality, just get a medium format film camera which nothing digital can touch 😂
I see all of us like our own mount of choice best. 😉
I still have my E-520. Body only $10 at Goodwill. I had to buy the batterys and charger online. It's fun with the vintage lens.
Hi Kai, I don't have a Micro Four Thirds Camera but I really like the 4.3 Square Format look. Funny and informative video, cheers 😊
love my GH5ii and S5 combo. GH5ii makes top notch videos and the S5 is just a great hybrid camera. When i want a straight photography session then ill pull out my 5D Mark IV
Love your videos. Always use them as reference.
It's a shame the PEN, GX, and GM lines seem to be in limbo... I keep my GM1/GX850 around almost exclusively for the Oly 75/1.8 and Pana 35-100, but for most wide/prime purposes my FF kit isn't any larger than my E-M5 III kit was. The Oly 8-25 isn't much lighter than a Tamron 17-50/4...
I just recently started jusing mft and I like the format❤
Damnit Kai and Lok I was just looking into m43 again haha price hike incoming 😂 but it's awesome to see these great cameras getting some love again
What's the shutter speed? 1/1000th? Plus the bit rate? 1Mbps? What went wrong?
BTW I have had a bunch of m43 cameras (4, vs. 3 DSLRs) and still use them for shooting wildlife quite a lot, but the low pixel counts (vs 42..60MP FF cameras) mean you need to be tighter to the subject to get a decent number of pixels over it and then it's really hard to see something arriving or to follow it afterwards (BTW the Oly Red Dot sight really does help there!).
I think they need something in the 34..38MP to help with that, plus sales in China just won't go anywhere at 20..25MP and ignoring that market seems brave (err, crazy?).
Impressed my GH3, GH4 and GH5 are now kinda small compared to the GH7... I may get one, but it's bigger than many higher-end FF cameras... Plus more expensive than some of their FF cameras...
Traded in for Fuji X-H2 big jump forward in IQ. Color is better. User interface is better. Sad, really.....hoping m4/3 will catch up.
Getting a m4/3 camera with stabilization for travel is one reason I'd still buy m4/3 in 2024 and beyond. If you're just shooting stuff you'd shre online or digitally, 12MP or more is more than plenty, even for 4k video (which only requires about 10MP to be on the safe side). Sure m4/3 cameras may not have the high ISO noise performance of APSC and FF but with modern denoising tech, noise in images is not really an issue anymoore and you can make an ISO 6400 image ook like an ISO 200 or 400 image or better with most cameras regardless of sensor size and modern DeNoising tools. The only real downside with m4/3 is when you start getting into some of the mid-range and higher-end bodies, as they cost about as much as a FF or APSC camera and in some cases are the same size/weight (only the lenses are generally smaller and lighter than FF). But compared to APSC, it seems that some lenses and bodies are about th same in most aspects (cost, size, weight) so in those cases, APSC may be a better option since the size/weight/cost benefit of m4/3 sort of goes out the door.
Come on OM Systems bring out an updated, weather sealed Pen-F with many of the OM-1s tricks.