TTo all those who complain he is not beatmatching. First of all, Jeff is mixing for a solid 30 years now. Secondly, he is choosing tracks based on energy, style, texture and rhythm and not necessarily based on similar production, similar sound so he can layer track over track without anyone noticing. He is not Richie Hawtin and as you can see he doesn’t use processor or effects for the transitions between tracks. This is the Jeff Mills style of mixing, sometimes “quick and dirty” sometimes loud and galloping like a horse but this is techno people. Maybe it isn’t your cup of tea but this is normal. However, for me anyone saying that Jeff Mills is not a god DJ is just clueless.
no excuse for messy beats, u dont need anything but eq to mix flawlessly and seamnlessly, certainly not any effects. he's a a legendary producer, but god of djs i dont think so.
Jeez, it's like everyone commenting on the beat matching is somehow able to do it better but will never have to prove it as the keyboard is a great ego boost. On the off chance any of these people are DJs with access to 3 decks, whether they be turntables, CDJs or controllers, if they have a physical pitch adjust give this a go with a bit of paper covering the BPM on any display you may have. Basically you've got 16 bars of music maximum to get the next track beatmatched, cued up & dropped into the mix with no sync button pressing allowed. I would actually place my house on the fact you couldn't do it for hours at a time. I've owned turntables for well over 20yrs & even tried to emulate this kind of style in the mid 90s with a friend on 3 decks & we couldn't do it anywhere near as good or fast as Jeff does, & that's with one of us ensuring the mix was in time whilst the other set up the next track, so what he achieves on his own is absolutely mind blowing from a technical standpoint. Also his incredible musical knowledge is evident as he intuitively goes from brand new tracks to older stuff, knowing how it will add to the set. Please don't look at this comparing it to modern day big name DJs, this is raw, powerful techno played by a person who loves the music more than the fame & fortune he can gain from it. I'm certainly not going to argue that the latest Top 100 DJs aren't at the top of their game, no matter what my opinion of the music they play, but if you brought any of them to watch Jeff, I'd guarantee you they'd be awestruck no matter what the beat matching was like as that simply doesn't matter when you play like this.
+GAJ As much as I love Mills, he's a (godlike) producer first and a (technically) mediocre DJ second. I've seen Mills live more times than I've had hot meals, he can't mix, he's shit at it, but his music taste makes up for it. Mixing with three decks is NOT rocket science.
+GAJ You make some very compelling points. Here's another reason why most people won't play on 3 decks - it sounds shit. Especially when Jeff Mills does it.
Love this mix. People complaining about the beat matching should try to mix 3 turntables. I’ve been a vinyl DJ for 20 years and 3 decks is tough. All the perfectly sterile mixes nowadays don’t appeal to me like real vinyl techno/house mixes. I like when there’s a bit of a human element, you can hear the beats fall apart slightly and get pushed back in time. Regardless, Jeff Mills is a master at his craft. Respect.
Totally agree. People that have only mixed using CDs or digital media don't appreciate the effort that goes into keeping vinyl beats in time over a long period of time. Little imperfections in the vinyl like tiny warps, scratches, nicks and stuff are capable of pushing beats out of line as is the analog nature of the turntables themselves (the motors don't keep a completely perfect speed - particularly as they get older). Add in beat-matching x3 tracks and this is an amazingly skilled performance!
Thought I knew house to a tiny tiny tiny degree, Went to Movement in 2022 and saw this man. I reconsidered everything I knew. Been on a journey ever since then to really dig deep into Jeff and the OGs. It’s hard to watch some the DJs I used to love cuz these Detroit dudes mix DIFFERENT. Absolutely love the “less clean” style of mixing, you can feel the effort and the direction they want to take things. I’m absolutely in love with the old Detroit/Chicago scene and will take advantage of the time we have left with all these masters.
At finland we often referred the raves as "ravit" which is a word for horseraces . . for multiple reasons but especially because when the DJ doesn't get the mix right, it sounds as if you're in a horse derby :D
@@toddw3nzel639 Well said, because time sadly is *Finite* Paul Johnson (Chicago, Relief, Dust Traxx, Dance Mania) was one of the early Covid deaths in 2020. Mike Huckabee (Deep Detroit Techno producer, knew Native Reaktor inside and out, taught Detroit children how to use Reaktor at a community center, & one of _The_ nicest people on this planet) died from Covid early on (2020) and caught from being in the hospital for a stroke. So people, play the hell out of the early Detroit Techno, Chicago house, DJs sets, and even U.K. producers (Vince Watson, and Dave Angel to name two are masters at their craft), because time is finite and precious.
Just YES!!!!!!! Anyone knocking his beatmatching doesn't have a fucking clue. From what I'd counted he'd already mixed 6-7 tracks in 5 minutes across three decks. Legend.
That is a pretty loose use of the word "mixed". Doing what Jeff is attempting to do here well is impressive, but doing it like Jeff actually does is not. Pretty much any average techno deejay can do at least as well. One day we'll get over the idea that someone TRYING to do a bunch of shit behind the decks is dope, even if they are doing it very poorly.
I remember hearing Carl Cox saying something along the lines of "some of the best mixes ever will have mistakes in them, but that is because the DJ is working to the absolute best of their ability to make that set the best it can possibly be". I would much rather hear that human element, hear the imperfections along with the craft and performance of a DJ working hard, than have it all pretty much done for you now with autocue and beat matching. I can't help but feel that the increased technology has actually had a negative impact on the performance - that feeling of a set being crafted by a human DJ not just a clever mixing machine.
Got to see Jeff in Barcelona (Sonar), London (Fabric + Lost), Birmingham (Atomic Jam). Amazing talent one of the best DJs in the world if not Galaxy, he is from a different world for sure. Watching him at work is like watching a 9 dart finish or a 147 in snooker.
Have you ever been to one of his club performances? Most smooth and true story telling mixes are Jeff's. He's the reason I listen to techno. Not a single DJ came to his level. I have listened to techno almost 20yrs and there are great DJs, all kinds of mixes and styles... none of them is like Jeff. Jeff is something special in electronic age. And btw, that "faulty" beatmatching isn't coincidental, trust me. I don't know about other ppl, I LIKE IT! Jeff is religion, Jeff is all.
I don't think Jeff Mills worries, or perhaps has ever worried about perfect beat matching. I think his interests are placed somewhere else. Perhaps rough mixing (if you wanted to call it that) could be considered just as important as perfect mixing.
I saw all these comments defending Mills' "beatmatching" skills and my jaw dropped. What kind of moron would think Jeff Mills needs to improve his beatmatching I wondered. I see lots of posts defending his skills but any posts knocking him seem to be gone.
***** Yeah, DJ's used to work with "tracks" and house and techno songs had an obvious intro, usually just bars of kick drum for the DJ to match and bring in. Producers were underground and wanted to be played by the DJ's, there was no hope of huge radio airplay. Now, it's all drops and crazy intro's and producers make songs they want to be hits on the radio. The DJ's I like still use songs as building blocks, the point is the mix.
***** Darren Breckles If you want to see a modern techno DJ do great things with a pair of technics and all vinyl I absolutely implore you to go check out Sunil Sharpe on the Boiler Room, one of the most invigorating sets I have heard in ages, and like Mills here he never lets his technical prowess cloud the groove. I suspect a lot of the Mills criticism is from the new wave of CD and digital DJs for whom the concept of having to struggle to nail a mix is simply a thing of the past - they hear some of the initial stages of some of the transitions here and think the odd clang is a symptom of a lack of skill, as opposed to a byproduct of someone who knows he is skilled enough to correct everything near-instantly refusing to let the fact that the odd beat might be a tiny bit off get in the way of the energy he is building. I will take hearing the human element in a dj mix over dull methodical tecnicality each and every time. (and go check that Sunil Sharpe set, it is unreal)
***** You are welcome man! I am really glad you enjoyed that mix! Its funny, I think there are still plenty of DJs keeping the flame burning, but it can be hard to find the good ones. I definitely think that a lot of the touring DJs you see would probably play vinyl if they didnt have to take a flight and deal with shitty hand luggage restrictions and the fear of their records getting lost or damaged, it takes a real trooper to still bother.with wax, but the amount of releases going around make me think it will be around for a good while yet as a format, or at least I hope so.
Jeff is from out of this world - I`ve seen him several times live. NO one.. and i mean NO ONE can even come close to him.. He`s a one of the kind. All the other good people from Detroit might have some of his "gene pool" but Jeff always had his own quality seal. No one else merges from a humanoid life form with the machines like he does.. He has never been about "playing some records" that`s just means for purpose - He is up there and paints a picture - Projects a lively image on a screen - If you dont get it, you might be in the wrong theatre.........
After going trough some comments i just cannot beleive that someone can say that his beatmatching is bad srsly... Anyone here whos hating on him has no idea what the djing is. Lots of ppl cannot hear or see him because hes so next level. As you can see hes using 3 decks that doesnt show even what's bpm of the track, if he gave you to try to mix 2 tracks im sure that 90% of you wouldnt be able to do it since 90% djs nowdays are the sync heroes that are only changing track by track i saw that thousand times while Jeff is sometimes playing 3 tracks in same time that sounds so perfectly and even sync wouldnt be able to make it that good.
smokejc Praise Mills all you want. Give him respect for being a legend that helped pioneer a new dawn of harder/minimal techno and all that. I praise him for his place in techno history that way. Just don't make Millsucses for his horrible deejaying because of his name. People that aren't star struck by the big name all agree the dude is horrible behind the decks.
When children decades from now research "what is a Techno DJ," this should be the first ping. Jeff's from another planet and we are fortunate to have here on Earth.
Legendary, a master at work. Since the first time I saw him at I love techno in 1995 in Gent at the vooruit I loved his style of mixing a natural born talent ❤️
01:17 Jeff Mills likes to put on techno tracks with this distinct pumping rhythm. I call it "propeller" or "running horse". As a techno producer you can build such techno rhythms by putting closed hihats, clicks or fast cutoff hihats, snares and other drum samples between the empty space of each kickdrum. Beats per minute should be around 130. Makes it rapid. Also add a distinct sound sample each fourth kickdrum to stress it and make it sound as if it's jumping.
To all the commenters hating on his beat matching: this is what happens if you play three decks AND you don't have 2 minutes to spare to beat match. He puts on a record, cues it up, ballparks the tempo, and just gets on with it. Any correction he makes, he does so in the mix. Try it. And I don't mean just try to mix three decks; try to mix three decks AND do it as quickly as he does. Man, Tommy Flanagan played a few "wrong" notes behind Coltrane on Giant Steps, but he is still is Tommy Flanagan accompanying John Coltrane.
Someone can prove me wrong but I'd argue his beatmatching was more consistent during his radio days as "the wizard" and he'd still go about beatmatching exactly as you described. It's a mystery to me, in some mixes it's as if he's using sync but he's not if you listen closely enough. Superhuman hearing to adjust the pitch to perfect within 2 beats of starting the next mix. All that while cutting, scratching, and beat juggling too. Relentless technique and efficiency.
the great thing about this video is not the non-fact that mills is playing an impressive playlist or that the beatmatching is impeccable. the amazing thing is that he is trying to make new music on the fly. i just love that :)
People spend so much time in the comments arguing about beat matching and they're missing a live hardware set from Random Noise Generator just burning it down smdh.
We need DJ's like Jeff Mills because he's creative on the decks. that's the kind of flavor and taste i look for. Also this what i want to see for all styles in the electronic genre to be played 15:44
yea its not only music but instrumental mastering still turn/tables-in your hands whole system of sound and hand/on in/row/in time/samplooprotating and rumbling
Random Noise Generator are fucking legends and doing what 2010 - Present DJ's were thinking of doing. Richie H, DubSki, yeah all you boys, you know where it at was at before you!
In fairness if anyone watching this has to comment about beat matching then I think you missed the whole point of what he is trying to do.. This is Incredible and then Octave 1 comes in with some groovy sexy Detroit House...
@akis723 I also love Random Noise Generator in this! Not only do they look like they're enjoying themselves, but they are also making music on the fly! They only had 4 days to put the together for the dvd!
Esto si que es pinchar! 100% vinilo, nada de ordenadores ni cd's. Lo prefiero desde luego antes que la formas de pinchar de ahora! Ni punto de comparacion
Its a great mix with lots of great mixer work and excellent music. For those mentioning the beat mixing. Well..your right, in places there are some issues and it's a shame they are near the start. If it was not being filmed I'm sure Jeff would have just started again. But there are lots of other redeeming qualities to this set. As for not being able to comment on the beat mixing, well of course people can. If something gets put on the internet with a comments section then there is room for positive and negative comments. And do we have to have better DJs only being able to comment on mixing ? no, anyone can if that's what they hear. Is it tough to mix on 3 decks, yes it's tough but then there is an acceptance that there could be issues when it's filmed live as well. But it's okay to mention it as long as it's not done in a nasty way. But we cannot live in a world where everything has to be positive and also we don't have to defend Jeff Mills, a legend. I learn to mix in 1991 and it ruined most of my favourite DJ tapes as some of them had really bad beat matching but I never noticed before. So learning to mix can make beat matching issues magnified and a lot of people won't even notice. If you can mix just ask yourself would you put this in to a club as an example of your mixing, the answer is no because you know the promotor will stop listening at the first issue. Even Jeff Mills would have started again until it was perfect. And I am sure he can do it amazing and perfect! but for this film it's still amazing and great to learn from even now.
@@toddw3nzel639 no, I’ve just been a DJ since 1991 and its one of the things that gets ruined. Soon as you learn you hear beats going out and back in again. It ruins some of your fav mixes lol unfortunately its one of those things you cannot un-hear. But its a great mix and it keeps getting better and better. I’m not knocking it, just saying something that is true. I quite like mixing when its on the edge and the beats get a bit phase-y. I guess it would have been more perfect with a better start., for me that is. You like it just how it is and good on you.
Sempre parlando con i vinili ,a 3/4piatte .non come fanno ora che anno una mia nuscola Borsettina piena di chiavette ,,,,na volta c,erano le valigette piene di vinili ,che ci voleva l,aiuto x portare le valigette ...grande Jeff mills,,,, tecnicamente come lui c,e ne sono ,ripeto Joy kiticonti, metempsicosi,,,,e francesco Zappalà free lence .
He's not really focussing on the matching this mix, he's doing quick ping pongs between records to create a new sound. I've heard plenty live sets of him where you couldn't spot a single mistake.
Yes, I tried many times. But never released one mix, just threw away all the recordings. Too many train wrecks and there's just too much going on. I always lost it halfway through.
It's worth reading his recent interview on The Art of DJing to get what he is on about before commenting negatively about his djing. He is a phenomenal DJ that most DJs can't even come close to except maybe Derrick May. Jeff Mills recent interview is here: www.residentadvisor.net/features/3436
I've literally seen Jeff Mills fall asleep at the decks and continue mixing for 2 hours straight until he woke up yawned and continued for another 2 hours.
Anyone who knocks him for being slightly off with some of his beats is clearly fucking demented. I would love to see anyone of them mix with 3 decks at what could be classed as a fair tempo, whilst totally messing around with the bass, mid, treble and gain knobs and also sampling shit at the same time. It wouldn't sound right if there wasn't the odd bit off here and there. This is the way he plays and always has done. Put it this way I've seen a lot of top techno Dj's over the years and even taking their time mixing they weren't perfect so it shows how good Jeff really is. One last thing regarding what a guy wrote below saying he was booed off stage in France, all I can say about that is having been reared there on shit music it doesn't surprise me in the least. Only Laurent Garnier has come out of there with any reputation but not my cup of tea?? Kind of glad they will never get the chance to see some of the top top techno dj's from the 90's who would have fried their heads, they would have lost it and decided to build themselves into a meat patty and ask someone with a clue to fry them up!!! What the fuck do the French know about techno?????
Those who complaining about Jeff's beatmatching being slightly off at places can't see the forest for the trees. Even there's no such thing as 'Perfect' beatmatching. If it's slightly off but u recover quickly it's totally fine. Beatmatching is just one basic part of mixing. U think he's not doing a good job on it go check boiler room of mcde, fourtet, etc even Derrick May! You guys would be the type of guys who looks at the dj's at trying so hard to spot mistakes and shit ahh.
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It’s almost as if some don’t realize that the slight imperfections are what makes it perfect. Love = Everything.
TTo all those who complain he is not beatmatching. First of all, Jeff is mixing for a solid 30 years now. Secondly, he is choosing tracks based on energy, style, texture and rhythm and not necessarily based on similar production, similar sound so he can layer track over track without anyone noticing. He is not Richie Hawtin and as you can see he doesn’t use processor or effects for the transitions between tracks. This is the Jeff Mills style of mixing, sometimes “quick and dirty” sometimes loud and galloping like a horse but this is techno people. Maybe it isn’t your cup of tea but this is normal. However, for me anyone saying that Jeff Mills is not a god DJ is just clueless.
i agree man jerome hill is good techno to
no excuse for messy beats, u dont need anything but eq to mix flawlessly and seamnlessly, certainly not any effects. he's a a legendary producer, but god of djs i dont think so.
agentm00se I am sure you are better than Jeff Mills , oh wait , you are random internet anonymous bashing more successful people
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jeff mills is know for being one of the dj mixing devils ;)
Its only "normal" for people continually making excuses for this guy.
Jeez, it's like everyone commenting on the beat matching is somehow able to do it better but will never have to prove it as the keyboard is a great ego boost. On the off chance any of these people are DJs with access to 3 decks, whether they be turntables, CDJs or controllers, if they have a physical pitch adjust give this a go with a bit of paper covering the BPM on any display you may have. Basically you've got 16 bars of music maximum to get the next track beatmatched, cued up & dropped into the mix with no sync button pressing allowed. I would actually place my house on the fact you couldn't do it for hours at a time. I've owned turntables for well over 20yrs & even tried to emulate this kind of style in the mid 90s with a friend on 3 decks & we couldn't do it anywhere near as good or fast as Jeff does, & that's with one of us ensuring the mix was in time whilst the other set up the next track, so what he achieves on his own is absolutely mind blowing from a technical standpoint. Also his incredible musical knowledge is evident as he intuitively goes from brand new tracks to older stuff, knowing how it will add to the set.
Please don't look at this comparing it to modern day big name DJs, this is raw, powerful techno played by a person who loves the music more than the fame & fortune he can gain from it. I'm certainly not going to argue that the latest Top 100 DJs aren't at the top of their game, no matter what my opinion of the music they play, but if you brought any of them to watch Jeff, I'd guarantee you they'd be awestruck no matter what the beat matching was like as that simply doesn't matter when you play like this.
GAJ Yes, this man is immortal and might not even be human.
+GAJ true + He composed and produced all these records when music on computer or cd players didn't really make any sense yet!
+GAJ thank you.fedup of these silly keyboard warriors typing there shit and they probably dont even own 2 bits of vinyl.
+GAJ As much as I love Mills, he's a (godlike) producer first and a (technically) mediocre DJ second. I've seen Mills live more times than I've had hot meals, he can't mix, he's shit at it, but his music taste makes up for it. Mixing with three decks is NOT rocket science.
+GAJ You make some very compelling points.
Here's another reason why most people won't play on 3 decks - it sounds shit. Especially when Jeff Mills does it.
Love this mix. People complaining about the beat matching should try to mix 3 turntables. I’ve been a vinyl DJ for 20 years and 3 decks is tough. All the perfectly sterile mixes nowadays don’t appeal to me like real vinyl techno/house mixes. I like when there’s a bit of a human element, you can hear the beats fall apart slightly and get pushed back in time. Regardless, Jeff Mills is a master at his craft. Respect.
Totally agree. People that have only mixed using CDs or digital media don't appreciate the effort that goes into keeping vinyl beats in time over a long period of time. Little imperfections in the vinyl like tiny warps, scratches, nicks and stuff are capable of pushing beats out of line as is the analog nature of the turntables themselves (the motors don't keep a completely perfect speed - particularly as they get older). Add in beat-matching x3 tracks and this is an amazingly skilled performance!
Thought I knew house to a tiny tiny tiny degree, Went to Movement in 2022 and saw this man. I reconsidered everything I knew. Been on a journey ever since then to really dig deep into Jeff and the OGs. It’s hard to watch some the DJs I used to love cuz these Detroit dudes mix DIFFERENT.
Absolutely love the “less clean” style of mixing, you can feel the effort and the direction they want to take things. I’m absolutely in love with the old Detroit/Chicago scene and will take advantage of the time we have left with all these masters.
At finland we often referred the raves as "ravit" which is a word for horseraces . . for multiple reasons but especially because when the DJ doesn't get the mix right, it sounds as if you're in a horse derby :D
@@toddw3nzel639 Well said, because time sadly is *Finite* Paul Johnson (Chicago, Relief, Dust Traxx, Dance Mania) was one of the early Covid deaths in 2020. Mike Huckabee (Deep Detroit Techno producer, knew Native Reaktor inside and out, taught Detroit children how to use Reaktor at a community center, & one of _The_ nicest people on this planet) died from Covid early on (2020) and caught from being in the hospital for a stroke. So people, play the hell out of the early Detroit Techno, Chicago house, DJs sets, and even U.K. producers (Vince Watson, and Dave Angel to name two are masters at their craft), because time is finite and precious.
The father of Detroit techno.. God among Man...r
Just YES!!!!!!! Anyone knocking his beatmatching doesn't have a fucking clue. From what I'd counted he'd already mixed 6-7 tracks in 5 minutes across three decks. Legend.
That is a pretty loose use of the word "mixed".
Doing what Jeff is attempting to do here well is impressive, but doing it like Jeff actually does is not. Pretty much any average techno deejay can do at least as well.
One day we'll get over the idea that someone TRYING to do a bunch of shit behind the decks is dope, even if they are doing it very poorly.
Gavintech So pretty much any average techno DJ = Jeff Mills Because logic? Have a bit of respect. The man's a legend.
Martin Garner So, basically, you have nothing to say in response. Nice.
without sync button ;D hahahahah
Gavintech please name me one AVERAGE techno deejay that can play to a crowd with 3 turntables. i would love to know
I swear Jeff Mills is from another planet, solid techno from the Wizard! Doesn't get better than this
only worst this days
30 years on and it's as good as ever. Jeff Mills is the embodiment of Detroit Techno.
the backspinning record around 2:00 is one of my favorite dj moments ever
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Absolutely
I honestly wanna learn how to do that so I can build on that. Just sounds so cool. One of my favorite moments in this set.
@@JackedSchoomves it's called a full backspin, you basically just pull the record back with god knows how much force/speed
@@thereisafireinthehallway Thank you! I’ve still been trying to understand how to do that lol
I remember hearing Carl Cox saying something along the lines of "some of the best mixes ever will have mistakes in them, but that is because the DJ is working to the absolute best of their ability to make that set the best it can possibly be". I would much rather hear that human element, hear the imperfections along with the craft and performance of a DJ working hard, than have it all pretty much done for you now with autocue and beat matching. I can't help but feel that the increased technology has actually had a negative impact on the performance - that feeling of a set being crafted by a human DJ not just a clever mixing machine.
Красиво сказано! Духовность, понимание мира и себя, любовь к делу в итоге выдают высокий результат 😇
Got to see Jeff in Barcelona (Sonar), London (Fabric + Lost), Birmingham (Atomic Jam). Amazing talent one of the best DJs in the world if not Galaxy, he is from a different world for sure. Watching him at work is like watching a 9 dart finish or a 147 in snooker.
You can say everything about him, but Jeff Mills is a masterpiece of Techno, a PAPA!!!!!!
Yeah man. And he supports so many other artists.
The King OF Techno Mister Jeff Mills
Agreed
True, but there is more than one king. The Bellevue Three are all kings, too.
Have you ever been to one of his club performances? Most smooth and true story telling mixes are Jeff's. He's the reason I listen to techno. Not a single DJ came to his level. I have listened to techno almost 20yrs and there are great DJs, all kinds of mixes and styles... none of them is like Jeff. Jeff is something special in electronic age. And btw, that "faulty" beatmatching isn't coincidental, trust me. I don't know about other ppl, I LIKE IT! Jeff is religion, Jeff is all.
Couldn't agree with you more!!
@@obsidiaanrec.2535 same Jeff mills is the greatest edm artist ever in edm history idc what anyone says his music speaks for himself
Check out umek in his Prime ;)))
in case anyone else cares, the mixer is a Vestax PMC-500
mmm It really is PMC-55 o 50 With the replacement of crossfader :)
I was wondering that
The busiest hands in techno and one of the original pioneers of the genre. To call this guy a legend doesn’t do him enough justice.♥️
Jeff Mills - Liquid Room (1995) - My introduction to techno. How lucky was I?
same here :)
mix up vol.2 was my introduction into jeff mills and some other styles ;)
great start:D
Same here, then a trip to Turnmills to see him and Hawtin at the same gig
Same
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RANDOM NOISE GENERATOR / OCTAVE ONE HELL YEAH!!!!! I just found out about them but I'm starting to love them!!!!!!!
haha have you seen any of their recent videos? Now they rock like 3 times the equipment they use here.
I don't think Jeff Mills worries, or perhaps has ever worried about perfect beat matching. I think his interests are placed somewhere else. Perhaps rough mixing (if you wanted to call it that) could be considered just as important as perfect mixing.
I saw all these comments defending Mills' "beatmatching" skills and my jaw dropped. What kind of moron would think Jeff Mills needs to improve his beatmatching I wondered. I see lots of posts defending his skills but any posts knocking him seem to be gone.
***** Yeah, DJ's used to work with "tracks" and house and techno songs had an obvious intro, usually just bars of kick drum for the DJ to match and bring in. Producers were underground and wanted to be played by the DJ's, there was no hope of huge radio airplay. Now, it's all drops and crazy intro's and producers make songs they want to be hits on the radio. The DJ's I like still use songs as building blocks, the point is the mix.
Darren Breckles kakva dobra muzika!
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If you want to see a modern techno DJ do great things with a pair of technics and all vinyl I absolutely implore you to go check out Sunil Sharpe on the Boiler Room, one of the most invigorating sets I have heard in ages, and like Mills here he never lets his technical prowess cloud the groove.
I suspect a lot of the Mills criticism is from the new wave of CD and digital DJs for whom the concept of having to struggle to nail a mix is simply a thing of the past - they hear some of the initial stages of some of the transitions here and think the odd clang is a symptom of a lack of skill, as opposed to a byproduct of someone who knows he is skilled enough to correct everything near-instantly refusing to let the fact that the odd beat might be a tiny bit off get in the way of the energy he is building.
I will take hearing the human element in a dj mix over dull methodical tecnicality each and every time. (and go check that Sunil Sharpe set, it is unreal)
***** You are welcome man! I am really glad you enjoyed that mix! Its funny, I think there are still plenty of DJs keeping the flame burning, but it can be hard to find the good ones. I definitely think that a lot of the touring DJs you see would probably play vinyl if they didnt have to take a flight and deal with shitty hand luggage restrictions and the fear of their records getting lost or damaged, it takes a real trooper to still bother.with wax, but the amount of releases going around make me think it will be around for a good while yet as a format, or at least I hope so.
Darren Breckles Apparently Mills got boo'd off at some club in france. Fucking idiot kids these days have no sense of where the music originates from.
Still one of my favorite video mixes of all time.
12 years have passed, same shit here
Jeff is from out of this world - I`ve seen him several times live.
NO one.. and i mean NO ONE can even come close to him.. He`s a one of the kind. All the other good people from Detroit might have some of his "gene pool" but Jeff always had his own quality seal. No one else merges from a humanoid life form with the machines like he does.. He has never been about "playing some records" that`s just means for purpose - He is up there and paints a picture - Projects a lively image on a screen - If you dont get it, you might be in the wrong theatre.........
Agreed imo Jeff mills is the greatest edm dj that ever lived and that's a undeniable fact
Purpose Maker is Legendary
Questa me la metterò da parte x tutta la vita .quando voglio ascoltare il top scegliamo Jeff mills ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Che bravo ,,,e come mixa .namber One Jeff mills ❤❤❤❤❤❤ grande ,questa traccia la conosco
Epic performance by Jeff Mills. A true techno hero..
Genius......still have a live in the liquid room in Tokyo mix. Still stands up today and far clever/technical mixing by todays standards. Go on Jeff!
Seen him at pure Edinburgh circa 92-93 one of the best djs I’ve witnessed…his energy and set was off the scale
Namber One Jeff mills, bravissimo.top mondial dj.un vero dj lo vedi con i vinili .e non con le chiavette da 4soldi .
Brutal!..de esto ya no se ven😢😢🎉🎉
He's the king of techno
After going trough some comments i just cannot beleive that someone can say that his beatmatching is bad srsly... Anyone here whos hating on him has no idea what the djing is. Lots of ppl cannot hear or see him because hes so next level. As you can see hes using 3 decks that doesnt show even what's bpm of the track, if he gave you to try to mix 2 tracks im sure that 90% of you wouldnt be able to do it since 90% djs nowdays are the sync heroes that are only changing track by track i saw that thousand times while Jeff is sometimes playing 3 tracks in same time that sounds so perfectly and even sync wouldnt be able to make it that good.
LOL
The phenomenon that is "Millscuses" never ceases to amaze. Yours is extra special.
Gavintech
What's with all the bitterness in any comment that praises Mills? Did you give him your number and he never called?
smokejc Praise Mills all you want. Give him respect for being a legend that helped pioneer a new dawn of harder/minimal techno and all that. I praise him for his place in techno history that way. Just don't make Millsucses for his horrible deejaying because of his name. People that aren't star struck by the big name all agree the dude is horrible behind the decks.
Thelema
This Brother is Blessed No one does it better back from Ann Arbor Days PERIOD.
When children decades from now research "what is a Techno DJ," this should be the first ping. Jeff's from another planet and we are fortunate to have here on Earth.
Yea man Jeff Mills is the GOAT of EDM period
I was like "is that Octave one!?" then the big fella starts nodding - "yehhhh that's octave one!"
Legendary, a master at work. Since the first time I saw him at I love techno in 1995 in Gent at the vooruit I loved his style of mixing a natural born talent ❤️
Seen him live only once... out of body experience
sad vec 2 puta ;)
na moju veliku srecu :D
+FilipMarjanovic :D
FilipMarjanovic same !!!
Jeff Mills the God of techno 🙌
Indeed
01:17 Jeff Mills likes to put on techno tracks with this distinct pumping rhythm. I call it "propeller" or "running horse". As a techno producer you can build such techno rhythms by putting closed hihats, clicks or fast cutoff hihats, snares and other drum samples between the empty space of each kickdrum. Beats per minute should be around 130. Makes it rapid. Also add a distinct sound sample each fourth kickdrum to stress it and make it sound as if it's jumping.
Random Noise Generation. Rocking those machines like They're fucking 1200's! Amazing!!
英語で何て表現したらいいか分からんから日本語で書くけど、貴方がDJする際の所作がとても美しくて、まるで茶道の所作を見ているみたい:^)
Bisschen zu leise Aufnahme leider, ansonsten wie gewohnt ,The perfekt in Perfektion❤ Thanks and all my Love for you❤❤
To all the commenters hating on his beat matching: this is what happens if you play three decks AND you don't have 2 minutes to spare to beat match. He puts on a record, cues it up, ballparks the tempo, and just gets on with it. Any correction he makes, he does so in the mix. Try it. And I don't mean just try to mix three decks; try to mix three decks AND do it as quickly as he does. Man, Tommy Flanagan played a few "wrong" notes behind Coltrane on Giant Steps, but he is still is Tommy Flanagan accompanying John Coltrane.
Someone can prove me wrong but I'd argue his beatmatching was more consistent during his radio days as "the wizard" and he'd still go about beatmatching exactly as you described. It's a mystery to me, in some mixes it's as if he's using sync but he's not if you listen closely enough. Superhuman hearing to adjust the pitch to perfect within 2 beats of starting the next mix. All that while cutting, scratching, and beat juggling too. Relentless technique and efficiency.
I know this video since 15 years and it’s always just magic to watch it :)
jeff mills + octave one, COULDN'T BE BETTER!
Blooming is a goal
Perfection is Mother Earth
Listening Jeff and many other
Could be so orgasmic when fingers allies minds, souls and times...
✌️😍
The one and only, jeff "The wizard" mills my fav dj
the great thing about this video is not the non-fact that mills is playing an impressive playlist or that the beatmatching is impeccable. the amazing thing is that he is trying to make new music on the fly. i just love that :)
An endless source of inspiration
Jeff Mills got some skill. He still keep it real by use the turntable setup. You do not see that to much these days. Respect!
he uses CDJs now, haven't seen him with vinyl.. this DVD is from 2004.
People spend so much time in the comments arguing about beat matching and they're missing a live hardware set from Random Noise Generator just burning it down smdh.
like the break at 20:40 come on
Jeff is a boss.. Il est un des rare à mixé avec 3 platines 🙏
Unbelieveble... so so good.. Legend!!!! Respect for the wizard
We need DJ's like Jeff Mills because he's creative on the decks. that's the kind of flavor and taste i look for. Also this what i want to see for all styles in the electronic genre to be played 15:44
yea its not only music but instrumental mastering
still turn/tables-in your hands whole system of sound and hand/on in/row/in time/samplooprotating and rumbling
but that complex of machines is crayzyyyy
What song is that?
Masterpiece... In German we call it...Meisterwerk... Point.
Seeing Mills here in Mexico City next month. Cannot wait.
Eu adoro esse cara....
Mega! And him doin it live...talent!
Random Noise Generator are fucking legends and doing what 2010 - Present DJ's were thinking of doing. Richie H, DubSki, yeah all you boys, you know where it at was at before you!
In fairness if anyone watching this has to comment about beat matching then I think you missed the whole point of what he is trying to do.. This is Incredible and then Octave 1 comes in with some groovy sexy Detroit House...
I'm sleepy that I'll listen to exhibitionist next time.
Respect to the man from the faithful the British lads of Berlin 89 -92 !
@10 when he`s starting to play with two the bells is awsome
@akis723 I also love Random Noise Generator in this! Not only do they look like they're enjoying themselves, but they are also making music on the fly! They only had 4 days to put the together for the dvd!
unbelievable bit of techno and mixing no other Dj is near as good as him woh
Esto si que es pinchar! 100% vinilo, nada de ordenadores ni cd's. Lo prefiero desde luego antes que la formas de pinchar de ahora! Ni punto de comparacion
Its a great mix with lots of great mixer work and excellent music. For those mentioning the beat mixing. Well..your right, in places there are some issues and it's a shame they are near the start. If it was not being filmed I'm sure Jeff would have just started again. But there are lots of other redeeming qualities to this set.
As for not being able to comment on the beat mixing, well of course people can. If something gets put on the internet with a comments section then there is room for positive and negative comments. And do we have to have better DJs only being able to comment on mixing ? no, anyone can if that's what they hear. Is it tough to mix on 3 decks, yes it's tough but then there is an acceptance that there could be issues when it's filmed live as well. But it's okay to mention it as long as it's not done in a nasty way. But we cannot live in a world where everything has to be positive and also we don't have to defend Jeff Mills, a legend.
I learn to mix in 1991 and it ruined most of my favourite DJ tapes as some of them had really bad beat matching but I never noticed before. So learning to mix can make beat matching issues magnified and a lot of people won't even notice.
If you can mix just ask yourself would you put this in to a club as an example of your mixing, the answer is no because you know the promotor will stop listening at the first issue. Even Jeff Mills would have started again until it was perfect. And I am sure he can do it amazing and perfect! but for this film it's still amazing and great to learn from even now.
Idk man. Sounds like you were listening to a different set then most of us.
@@toddw3nzel639 no, I’ve just been a DJ since 1991 and its one of the things that gets ruined. Soon as you learn you hear beats going out and back in again. It ruins some of your fav mixes lol unfortunately its one of those things you cannot un-hear. But its a great mix and it keeps getting better and better. I’m not knocking it, just saying something that is true. I quite like mixing when its on the edge and the beats get a bit phase-y. I guess it would have been more perfect with a better start., for me that is. You like it just how it is and good on you.
magic hands! i think the number 1 on the turntables! 🔥💣
We’re all guests in Jeff’s house. What a guy.
Sempre parlando con i vinili ,a 3/4piatte .non come fanno ora che anno una mia nuscola Borsettina piena di chiavette ,,,,na volta c,erano le valigette piene di vinili ,che ci voleva l,aiuto x portare le valigette ...grande Jeff mills,,,, tecnicamente come lui c,e ne sono ,ripeto Joy kiticonti, metempsicosi,,,,e francesco Zappalà free lence .
Wow the transitions of the beat between Octava One and Jeff is something really cool
Jeff Mills der beste Techno DJ of the world😎👍👍👍
i think he just born with this talent!
are you stupid? he worked hard & tough to master it and you just sayin - he was born with it.
Numero uno!!!!!!
such a pleasure playing YOUR OWN tracks on vinyl... without computer, sync or making heart shapes with the hands like stupids use to do.
This style is very awesome
like a master chef
the one and only god of real minimal techno
He's not really focussing on the matching this mix, he's doing quick ping pongs between records to create a new sound. I've heard plenty live sets of him where you couldn't spot a single mistake.
everyone who commented on his beatmatching....have you attempted 3 vinyl mixes?
nah they'r just ordinary autocue jedis xD
Don't think so
I've never attempted 3 deck, that is just next level ha. There was a world where sync didnt exist people forget...
Stephen D'Arcy-Smith is there any point if it sounds shit like this?
Yes, I tried many times. But never released one mix, just threw away all the recordings. Too many train wrecks and there's just too much going on. I always lost it halfway through.
I like Jeff Mills. He has a kind to use the turntables and mixer, which I like. Very progressive. Cool.
Track at min 32:16 marked as "unreleased" has been released later as Jeff Mills - Paradise
jeff mills is cool, but love the vibe of the 2 lads vibing to their killer jams
It's worth reading his recent interview on The Art of DJing to get what he is on about before commenting negatively about his djing. He is a phenomenal DJ that most DJs can't even come close to except maybe Derrick May.
Jeff Mills recent interview is here:
www.residentadvisor.net/features/3436
Thank you so much! A must read for all Mills fans!
I've literally seen Jeff Mills fall asleep at the decks and continue mixing for 2 hours straight until he woke up yawned and continued for another 2 hours.
prenons quelques leçons !! :)
At the flick of God's switch, all the lights in the world are all out!
esto es una obra de arte
There's never a discussion of Jeff Mills without people missing the point on several levels.
Stationers seldom tell the oldest joke in their sharp repertoire for identical reason. It's about pencils.
Or is it 'sharp repartee'? :-)
Whatever the case it's deffo about pencils.
And Jeff Mills is on point. Sonic prestidigitation.
The man
A otro nivel
I listen him 20yerars ago in Croatia Split.. Vizard
Anyone who knocks him for being slightly off with some of his beats is clearly fucking demented. I would love to see anyone of them mix with 3 decks at what could be classed as a fair tempo, whilst totally messing around with the bass, mid, treble and gain knobs and also sampling shit at the same time.
It wouldn't sound right if there wasn't the odd bit off here and there. This is the way he plays and always has done. Put it this way I've seen a lot of top techno Dj's over the years and even taking their time mixing they weren't perfect so it shows how good Jeff really is.
One last thing regarding what a guy wrote below saying he was booed off stage in France, all I can say about that is having been reared there on shit music it doesn't surprise me in the least. Only Laurent Garnier has come out of there with any reputation but not my cup of tea?? Kind of glad they will never get the chance to see some of the top top techno dj's from the 90's who would have fried their heads, they would have lost it and decided to build themselves into a meat patty and ask someone with a clue to fry them up!!! What the fuck do the French know about techno?????
You know his name....but...does he know yours? He knows mine...RESPECT.
Jeff mills,,,,, tecnicamente e.molto preparato , conosco uno che può darci filo da torcere ,,,,un certo Joy kiticonti,,,,,o francesco Zappalà..
Yes!
He's a fucking GENIUS!!!!!
Jeff mills the GOAT of edm period there will never be a another artist like Jeff mills ever again in edm again.
One of the best simple as
No-one mixes like Mills.
Those who complaining about Jeff's beatmatching being slightly off at places can't see the forest for the trees. Even there's no such thing as 'Perfect' beatmatching. If it's slightly off but u recover quickly it's totally fine. Beatmatching is just one basic part of mixing. U think he's not doing a good job on it go check boiler room of mcde, fourtet, etc even Derrick May! You guys would be the type of guys who looks at the dj's at trying so hard to spot mistakes and shit ahh.