This confirmed exactly how I felt after buying some inline 3s yesterday and riding on them once since yesterday with my dog around a lake. Rolled very nicely once going, and even felt smooth over dirt and acorns. I felt good, but a little sketch in the tighter turns... but because of the longer wheelbase, when I normally would have felt like by heel was going to slip out, I still had weight being held by the back wheel... if that makes sense? But I'm happy. Just have to keep the ankles strong.
Seeing those Rollerblade Lightnings with the purple and teal brings back a lot of memories. I had those exact skates when I was 11/12 in 1993 and they were glorious.
Back in 8th grade, I found a dufflebag at the community basketball court that contained a pair of RB Lightnings. I played 3 games of basketball as the sun went down before I took the bag home with me. I skated those skates for years until I couldn't fit them and eventually spent a couple of movie theater paychecks on a pair of Solomons. I'm 37 now, and after 2020 kicked my ass, I'm getting back into rolling. It's great to find skating is reemerging in popularity, and I'm glad to rediscover something I loved as a kid.
I had those rollerblades! My first pair lol. Now I'm on here 20 years later since I last skated trying to get back into it and I'm slightly overwhelmed by all the choices. Like going from a pager to a flip phone then jumping all the way to a tablet!
I'm just getting back into it as well I used to love inline skating when I was younger anything with wheels but I've always preferred skating. Good luck and have fun
No trolling here. Just some input which has most likely been brought up before... Stability comes from from a longer frame base. Consider the skier. Longer skies, more stable at high speed. Shorter skis, nimble for turning but unstable if your bombing down hill. This is why you can buy a 125mm set-up with a short frame for urban skating, or a 125mm set up for speed skating with a 12 to 13 inch frame. Note the gap between the wheels. Long frames, decrease your turning ratio, short frames allow for shorter turning. Try both length frames to prove this out by only turning on your edges (never lift your foot from the ground and only lean into your turn), and you'll experience a dramatic difference. All said, great video. We are all skaters and learn from each other. Peace.
I've been skating 3/125mm for a few years. Two cons I noticed that are never addressed: Wheels wear out faster because there's one less wheel to provide that extra friction. There's also more shock transfer from the one big wheel under your foot, instead of the two that more evenly distribute the shock. Im going to go back to an 8 wheel setup.
With Powerslide Nexus frame you can slightly rocker either front or rear wheel to address the distribution problem. With a regular frame you can install 120mm front wheel. I love my 125's; they're on whenever I want max speed. Triskates do wear a lot faster for me too but I'll never go back to 4x80. Try Powerslide Evo 3x90 and tell me it's not a miracle.
Thanks for the advices! I'm 36 and just as you say in your channel description, I've been wishing go back to skate since I left it couple of years ago. Every time I saw people skating I felt nostalgia, so now I've decided to go back to rolling! and I think I'll get the 3*110 configuration, so I just found your video looking for reviews and I liked it a lot, you got a new suscriber! greetings from Lima Perú. (sorry for my english, not my first language)
I think its also important to touch on the fact that 4 wheels are more durable than 3 as the weight is dispersed over a larger surface area of polyurethane.
Great wording and explanations. Having had hours of rolling on bigger wheels as a fitness skater mainly, I can't stress enough how essential it is to try out slalom skating and doing tricks. Keep rolling everybody.
Yea you gain a lot of intuition on you skates if you are doing slalom and a bit freestyle. That helps if you have to just react on unexpected situations. On some days. I nearly fall 40-70 times..... But that's the point. On 99.x % of times I catch my balance again. Even if I accidently drive against obstacles....
I have been blading for over 20 yrs, just recently got back into it after a few years of not doing it. My old 4x80 blades broke so I went for the 3x110 just to try them out. At first they were really different and took some getting used to, but I love the versatility! They are so comfortable and in able to do so much! They are so smooth and love that I can do trails and I use them at the skate park too, trying to learn some new stuff! Has been a fun experience over the past 3months! Wish there were more bladers, finally convinced my step-daughter who started on skates to get blades and she loves them and is learning quickly! 🙂 so much fun! Almost a daily routine! Keep rolling!
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks! I haven't seen all your videos, but I was watching the half pipe one before this. I'm trying to learn how to do the drop in on the half pipe and how to work myself up to going up and over the quarter pipe with the flat top, have any tips on how to do it? I keep psyching myself out! 🤣
It's funny how the varying wheels on in rollerblades are similar to those on wheelchairs. I haven't skated in a long time but these 3 wheels are really interesting & it's interesting to see the new developments.
Wow, never thought about last point of pros for big wheels, but thanks to you i understood it, with larger wheels, with my 3x110 or 3x100 i definetly understand what you talking about, carving is really better and funnier then on 4x80
I'm 45. Used to skate aggressive from 18 to 23 everyday. I now have a pair of RB Twister Edge 2018 4x80 that I picked back up again last year in April. I do mostly urban city skating for cardiovascular reasons.....HATE doing cardio in the gym! I just want a skate where I can cruise and the 110s have my interest. I just hope I like them and don't find myself wanting to go back on my 4x80s. This video answered a lot of my questions! Thank you! 👍
Thank you, great overview! I rolled out in the city of Copenhagen today with 4x80 and it felt really fun riding some small features, lonely halfpipe in the docks, etc. I was thinking about 110 or 125 but changing my mind after your video.
@@VRMinde ah nice 4x90 was my last size before i went for triskates.... I really loved the speed and strong stability especially in turns even with Bad weather.... But i was missing agility and beeing able to turn fast.... Thats why i went for my 3x110. Would love to one time try 3x90 Maybe this would be my 2 blades for different excersizes
@@BlackyRay_Patrick I tried 3x100, 3x110, 3x125 for a while and I decided I do not like 3 wheel skates 🙄 if I need agility I rotate 1st wheel with 4th and 2nd with 3rd. In two weeks I have a decent natural rocker and all the agility I need on 4 wheels. But I do not get stuck on the stairsets, manage landings on gaps better, can stall miniramp copings in the middle gap and enjoy the smaller wheels for faster acceleration.
Consider: the 110mm wheel has a 37% greater circumference meaning at any given speed it rotates significantly slower. This reduces bearing-friction. So for X amount of bearing-friction you can travel significantly faster with the 110s.
sorry to be the buzzkill here, but i think you're ever so slightly incorrect. by going to 3 wheels, rather than 4, you will increase the load on each bearing by roughly 33%, which will chew into your net gain as bearing-friction scales with the mass. you'll still have a net gain, no doubt, and i'll gladly confirm as i've used both (don't use 80s anymore). but i'm not so certain it's as significant as one may initially think.
Hey man, I am a happy user of Rollerblade Twister XT (4 x 80). They were my first skates but I used to play ice hockey for 12 years so basically once I put them on my feet I started to ride without any issues. I use them on an outside track (1 mile long). I usually do 10 laps. Sometimes less, sometimes more. It has like 1/3 mile of straight road so with 80mm wheels you need to use a lot of muscles to reach a high speed to go through that with a smile on your face. Sometimes I go urbanskating with my friend who rides a bicycle. I guess the best way would be buying another pair (Rollerblade Twister Edge 110 for the track and keeping XT for the city/slalom sessions). Selling is not an option because I would get at best half of the money spent. BTW. I love my XT, they are simply amazing. I saw you also like the older model.
I wish I had seen this before buying my new blades (3x110mm) lol I was so surprised when I couldn’t turn as sharply as my 4x72mm blades ffff (in hindsight, it seems like it’s obvious) However, I still really love their design and the overall smoothness on bumpy trails
Great info! Just got myself a set of PS Reign Kronos 3x100mm. Love the short 215mm frames as they allow me to stay nimble whilst the larger wheels grant additional pace.
Would love to test them. I'm on Powerslide next pro 3x110mmm I think would be the perfect frame lenght for slalom driving and freestyle skating if you are not willing to get on small wheels.
Really liked the break down of the main differences between the 2 frame types, i know this was more about wheel setups but no mention about the influence of different wheels on comfort and speed ? (basicly harder is faster but less comfortable and vice versa). On a personal note in my opinion 3x100 is now the best jack of all trades setup over 4x80. the speed and comfort of bigger wheels and because of the shorter frame more agile then 4x80.
Why do som triskates have so much spacing in between the wheels? The frame length could be reduced thus not as prone to clipping during crossovers.. ?!
@anul6801 the main point is speed, a longer frame has a bigger leverage making i posible to generate more speed. 3 wheels have less drag then 4 which means more speed. And as a bonus a long frame ads stability (so you don't fall forward or backwards). The cost for all this is that they are not very nimble / quick to turn.
@@Daedje thank you i have 3 pair of skates. One hockey skate with 2*80 and 2*76 in the front if i remember correctly those are for quicker turns. Then i have K2 4*90 which are much easier going over rocks than the first pair. Then i have a powerslide off road pair 3*150 with air tires but those are very slow and ski poles is a must. Its more for down hill rather than bad roads imho because of the slowness. Now i ordered a pair of 3*110 with 85 hardness wheels. But to my surprise they had much more spacing then necessary in between the wheels. I would like a wheel that can travel thru bad asphalt roads without too much vibrations but also able to cruise control thru the streets with good maneuverability. Also being able to perform brakes. I like to be out a few hours without getting tired and just listening to music and enjoying the day in mixed environments. The 4*90 frame is good on most surfaces but a bit clumsy in crossovers and turns. I figured 3*110 would be perfect for the job due to its shorter length. True or false?
I had the Bladerunner 2s back in the day. They shipped with 70mm wheels (I think) and could maybe accept 72mms. The Aeroblades came out with 76mm wheels and that was a huge deal at the time. I just picked up the Twister 3x110s and I’m loving it!
Great video, I would just add the 4x90s which are somewhere in between and don't feel much different than 80s for beginners but really add the stability and speed of a bigger wheel. It's a great compromise imo.
Gunna roll 4x80s with a slight rocker for smooth and agile ride. Ty for the video and your experience, it helped me decide on my first set of frames. Cheers!
I haven't tried 125s yet as I was scared they would be too specific of a wheel size but after the 110s I just wanna go bigger for those long trail/road rolls! I think the 125s will be my next setup.
@@ThirtyandRollin I have the 125mm ground control kit with aluminium frame. Super rigid. I went straight from aggressive to 125 (because why not...) and apart from the height and the relative slow acceleration it is a blast. Speed and wind become your friends, tight cornering is hairy. A good solid boot is necessary otherwise a lot of energy will go to waste. I mounted them on a pair of seba CJ wellsmore (because carbon) but I think something more freestyle oriented, tighter on the foot and with more carbon would be better suited, although a UFS freestyle boot isn't common. Edit : wall ride on 125 is fun BTW 😉
They are actually less stable at speed because the wheelbase is shorter than a typical 4 wheel blade. I think you are thinking about the overall length but it is the point where the wheels touch the ground. Thats like saying a unicycle having a giant 36in diameter wheel is more stable ….
Skates with 4 small wheels are more stable and agile so better for urban skating with lots of stopping, going, and turns, while the larger wheels are better for long distance or trail skating.
Thanks for the video! Now I'm thinking that it's better for me to buy the best hard boot I can afford with 4x80 frame and then later to buy a 3x125 frame to be able to exchange them from time to time.. maybe later I'll buy hard boots also for the bigger wheels.. we'll see:)
@@ThirtyandRollin Thank you, I have bought 3x125 (powerslide next) and it feels awesome! I can turn as tight as with my old 4x84, as it has even smaller wheelbase. So my worries I couldnt make it down the hill dissapeared :D I just have a little bruise on a navicular bone, which I have not even known about until now :D Just hope it will solve itself out after a couple of rides.
Nice breakdown of wheel size differences!Concerning wheel diameter...Does anyone know the wheel size of old Bauer F3 Fitness roller blades? I think the setup had two sizes, 72 and 70mm but not sure. I was thinking of restoring my old skates but don't know what wheels to use. Any thoughts/suggestions? Thanks!
I have 4x80-3x100-3x110, and 110/125 are perfect for routes/Fitness, if youu want somehting realy agile and fast i use 4x80 for urban/tricks and 3x100 for urban/fitness, because i get more speed but keep alot of the agility!!
With all of our skateparks closed I was genuinely considering going tri-skates but you've convinced me to stick to 4x80! Awesome video man, glad you did it
Kind of an expansion of this topic, but I'm returning to skating after 20 years. My last pair of skates, I bought in like 1995. ha. A couple days ago, I went longboarding for the first time and a friend of mine used my old skates to come along. We swapped at the end and I realized that skating might be really good for strengthening my very unstable (sprained it numerous times) ankle. SO, I on a whim I bought a new pair that were on sale without doing proper research. I don't have them yet and can return them, but I'm wondering what you thoughts are on a skate that has 100 in the back and 90 in the front? Specifically the K2 VO2 S 100 women's skates? I'm a little worried now because I do have an unstable ankle and it has been a while. I live up in Vancouver BC and would primarily be skating on bike paths. We would occasionally go around the Sea Wall as well which is basically an obstacle course of people. And the only jumping I'd be doing would be off curbs. I'm not super confident skating after so many years either, but there is still a natural feeling to it even after just doing it for 15 minutes. Sorry this is so long! :)
Yeah! Myself just thinking about taking up skating, I go for the 3x 110's just because I just want to go for a skate, just like Poeple say I'm going for bicycle ride. I don't see myself on skate parks. I like thought of trail skating. Just like Venice beAch was famous for at one time we have the same beach trails just like Venice beach, California downunder. Plus you show us the safer way to stop is, pizza, j- stop and slide. Plus, I'm in my thirties and I just want to finally see if I could take all the tutorials into practise and if can skate. Haven't skated since I was eight. Back then I didn't have the patience and gave up. But I didn't have RUclips to watch how to skate. I remember getting up on a pair of roller skates and it felt like someone pulling the rug out from under you. Tri-skates for me. For cruising. The trails, beach and park.
That's exactly my reasoning, gotta new pair of powerslide 110's just waiting for me, leaned on my GF 80's, just a beginner, but used to skate and play hockey so maybe above the beginner stage
If you only knew how my wife and I been watching all your videos at night. Thanks for the info! I come from an aggresive inline scene and Ive skated since second grade... broke my rib cage around the age of 18 and had to quit cause of doctors order . Now im urging to get back on them and loving the 3x110mm but feeling insecure if I should go for the smaller ones that I have a closer muscle memory on.
I started skating again after more than a decade. Picked up 3x110, love the speed and the looks but my skating is terrible haha. Tried 4x80 and 4x90 and i must say 4x80 would be ideal for a comeback guy like me . At least i can do crossovers on them 😅
Same concept applies in all wheeled sports. Bigger is faster, efficient, better rollover. Smaller is quicker, more maneuverable. And generally you adapt to whatever you ride. Manufacturers will always stick with something for compatibility and cost until a new thing comes along that is regarded as "better." Mountain bike wheels were 26" for 30 years and now 29" and 27.5 are the standards. Everything changes.
Really well explained and your insight is just spot on here. However, I've been discovering for some time that if you can master agility on 3x110, it's huge fun to whizz through the city.
@@ThirtyandRollin im still asking myself if 110 is the best or 100 would be better. i would definitely not buy a new frame to get down to 100 so a advantage might not even exist. maybe one day if i decide to get a rockered frame...
I've heard some people talk of a rockered setup on three wheels. I'm too amateur for rockered on anything, but would that improve the agility on 3x110 wheels enough to match it with the 4x80?
@@swingstylez Yes but they would still be less stable because of the height. And I am not sure what wheels you would rocker them with. It needs to be subtle.
@@ThirtyandRollin I've probably misunderstood your question but there are skates that come with elliptical axles, and some frames that are rockered, so you can use the same wheels on every axle. You probably know about these so I've probably misunderstood your question!
How about the 4×90's and 3×100's? Would 90s be better than 80mm when it comes to wheel wobble when under speed and going over gravely or rough road terrain?
It would be interesting to plot a graph or something on speed vs control and stuff like that for different wheel sizes. I just got a pair of Rollerblades with 100 wheels, coming from Rollerblades with 84. I would expect slightly more control than 110 but lesser speed/momentum. Also more bumpiness from the road. But how much? Idk. Wish I had a graph to see
Nice video , I have the Powerslide Next 110s and the wheels are a lot closer together than the 110s you show here, so maybe they are more like the 4x80s than your ones , cos when i went from 4x80 to 110s i found them as agile and manoeuvrable.
I just ordered 4x72 skates and I was hoping that I could use them to skate long distances and maybe stop and do some stalls and grinds and jumps. (they're aeons with the H plate for grinding) am i going to enjoy myself rolling around with those?
Hi I order PS next 100 today. I want better control. Speed is not so important for me. I like balance between speed and control. But i see people usually prefer 110. Should I rather buy 110? I ride 4x80 until now. I just want inrease speed little bit and still got good control...
Hi, maybe you can help me out. I'm using 100 mm right now and I'm quiet happy with them. I like to go longer distances, like 15 km or so. I'm thinking about getting 110mm. Is there much of a difference between 100 and 110 mm? Or even 125mm? Any opinions?
I little difference in roll momentum and smoothness in the 110s compaired to the 100s but not too much. The 125s is a huge difference but I don't like being up that high.
I'm really considering giving the Triskates a go, mostly out of curiosity, but the higher stance and speeds (both for being faster and more unstable in lower speeds) are something that holds me a little since the last time I rollerskated was about 10+ years ago, so if I feel the 110mm are too much there is any problem in maybe downsizing for 90mm wheelbase wise? Thanks in advance!
Would i lose a ton of agility and stability going from 4x80 as an intermediate skater to a 4x90 Endless ? Do they offer the same sense of security and and control ? I have stock Seba 4 x 80 frames and wheels on my High Light skates. They arebok but I feel 90s may be a bit more efficient for endurance and not getting as tired from having to constantly be striding. Don't want to sacrifice the sense of security 80s offer. Maybe the Endless 84? Please help. 🙏
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks. I will definitely get them. I recently changed my wheels bearings and even axels. Had the stock seba wheels, bought RB Hydrogens. I was impressed at the difference they made also. I am looking forward to the Endless frames. Mucho gracias!
@@ThirtyandRollin oh. Well that changes a lot. I like a rockered set up. With my SEBA Frames I raise the front wheel but leave the rear wheel the same as the 2 middle wheels. I thought that was how Endless were naturally. So it's a more of a banana rocker. Well I'm not wanting them for slalom. Just urban skating. Small jumps etc. Tight turns etc. But more so for an increase in speed. Not like a 110 3 wheel setup but just a bit faster. So maybe they aren't for me.
What about 3x100 wheel setup? Can they handle bumpy roads? I am try to get myself into urban skating but it's hard to do it with 4x80 with the kind of roads we have here.
I've got some decent roller hockey skates (Bauer xr500) but with covid closing the rinks, I want to start skating around the neighborhood. Not sure if it's a good idea to just pick up some 80/80/76/76 street wheels for $50 or if it'd be better to go in on new 3x110 skates... The streets around here get pretty rough, but I think I prefer trying some tighter more aggressive moves over just speeding in a straight line with big swooping turns. The small wheels would definitely be better if I ever want to practice puck handling moves in a basketball court or something though
@@ThirtyandRollin i am looking forward to speed skating not much stunts and a little urban skating,i Skate Mostly In Smooth Surfaces. Sheel size-40. I was using 75mm size before. And i am a advanced skater. Thanks for reading the comment ❤️
I would like to jump from an aggressive setup to a more urban experience. Should I get an 80mm frame or a 110mm frame for that purpose? my idea is to get from point A to B while having fun not just skating in a straight line. any tips?
Really great video, I come from an aggressive background but also play ice hockey, I’ve been using powerslide swell 3x110 skates but I struggle with the boot on my ankles. I’m wanting to upgrade to the rollerblade twisters and was thinking about going to 4x80mm to improve my fitness for hockey, and also to enjoy the aggressive aspect of powerblading and urban skating. I do like a good long trail run though. Do you know how the ankle support of the twisters compare to the swells?
Thirty and Rollin that’s excellent! Thank you I’m more thinking the 4x80mm will be a great option. But keep going back and forth. Thanks for getting back to me!
Thirty and Rollin ah it’s tough this week I’ve done 45km of fitness skating. I’m thinking the twisters been far more supportive and higher quality compared to the swells might give me that extra I need to do even more and stay with 3x110 haha keep changing me mind. Haha. I do have aggressive skates and roller hockey skates.
@@VinnieAndTheStars I can absolutely recommend the Powerslide next pro. (Bought the ones with 3x110) The shell supports strong. The inside show can be washed and be baked. And you can even adjust the shell and the frames to what suits you the most. I could wear these skates 24/7 (Only downside is the price)
Ahh, if only I had seen this before they sold me 90.... Can you give me some advice, since I bought a rollerblade macroblade 90 and I'm not happy with how fast I'm going because I'm a beginner and struggling to stop. Would it make a difference to change only the wheels for 80mm or would I have to replace the whole frame? Maybe the solution is to buy brand new ones, although I would prefer that to be the last option. Any advice is welcome
Recently got some seba e3 which come with a 4x80 setup and a hardness of 82A. I've been thinking of getting a bit of a harder wheel since 82A seems a bit too soft for the roads where I live. What do you suggest for someone still a bit new to skating?
I don't agree that 4x80 is better for urban skating. The larger wheels cope much better with inconsistent road surfaces. Wheel clipping on 3x110 isn't a universal problem either; something like an fr1 has a shorter frame that doesn't go beyond the length of the boot. I also find them more fun but that's just me.
Hey there! I'm highly considering this bag, have any suggestions over this one? Seba seems nice but then theres the guy saying the mesh fucked up his shirts...lol..what do you think? Any more bag suggestions?
@@ThirtyandRollin oh, the rollerblade bag in this video seems like the best bag out there, minus the things you highlighted...whats ur opinion 2 years later? should i get this one? im also considering the seba but idk yet
I have the Powerslide Phusions 3x110's. They are sweet only downfall is they are not a hard boot. Too much flex for me to be 100% comfortable/confident.
I prefer the look of soft boots though, and I think the high end Swells and Kazes are really secure while still having better ventilation and IMO look cooler than hardboots
I've started skating in 2020, at the age of 40/41 something ahahaha I need to make my math here. But... My real first roller skates are the Rollerblade Cruiser 4x80 that I still have. Then, I wanted a faster one and bought a Powerslide Zoom Pro 3x100. I like it, but I didn't feel a bigger different, maybe because the stock Hurricane wheels are too smooth and they hold you back in comparison to the 4x80 stock rollerblade wheels. I love skating. It's a big part of my life now and I'm looking forward to get my third roller skates now: either àn FR skates FR 2 3x110 or a rollerblade Twister 3x110.
Hey dude, love your videos, they're all on point 👌 Just a quick question to you, do you reckon I could combine the Michal Prado Gawds boots with 4x80mm wheels to do freeskating? I love the gawds but don't skate aggressive, only freeskate on roads, just wanna know your if the boot will be good enough for freeskating. Cheers man, love your videos 👊👍
@@ThirtyandRollin awesome advice! Cheers bro, will definitely try before I buy then, possibly think about getting a thinner soul plate for them too... thanks a lot man, legend 👊
What do you think about 4x90 skates? Would they be as maneuverable as 4x80 or slightly less because of longer wheel base? I'm thinking of picking up the Powerslide Next Core 90 skates but I'm not sure I'll like them. I'm an old aggressive skater who is currently skating on twister edge x (2018) that are 4x80 and have been getting better with them. They just hurt my feet and constantly give me blisters when I skate for more than an hour. I'm looking for a more comfortable skate/boot for city/urban skating mainly.
@@jessa.3857 No problem. I don't think you can go wrong. 4x80 is classic and versatile frame but if you wanted a bigger wheeled skate without going 3x110 a 4x90 is a good option too.
Would a 60mm flat setup like the Aeon 60 work for urban/city skating, skating around town (pavements, street, cracks etc.), or are those wheels just too small to handle that kind of environment?
@@ThirtyandRollin I was actually thinking of going with the Roces M12s and then getting a 4x80 frame for it so I can switch between urban and aggressive. Sorry to bug you with another question, but is this a good idea... would the M12 lo provide enough support for a decent around town skate? Cheer.
I’ve never skated with inclined skates and I want a pair for Christmas. I really want 3 wheeled skates but I don’t know if I should start out with them. Would it be better to start out with 3 or 4 wheeled skates? :)
Big bearings are what will really change skating ability. No matter how big the wheels is they still roll in a tiny balls in a smalk bearing that limited its ability. If its me ill innvented a bit bigger bearings which will change skating world now and forever.
New subscriber here. I'm quite an advanced skater and the biggest wheels I tried were 4 x 90mm wheels that I use now and they are worn out. I do very well on them. I was thinking of trying out the 125mm. I'll be skating downtown in Toronto. What do you think I should get? I do a lot of tricks btw.
125s are amazing if you are cruising but not so much for tricks as the center of balance is much higher off the ground. A 110 setup would be a good compromise IMO
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I love that you included how good it feels to carve on big wheels!
Yes I think that's my favorite aspect about bigger wheels/being higher off the ground.
This confirmed exactly how I felt after buying some inline 3s yesterday and riding on them once since yesterday with my dog around a lake. Rolled very nicely once going, and even felt smooth over dirt and acorns. I felt good, but a little sketch in the tighter turns... but because of the longer wheelbase, when I normally would have felt like by heel was going to slip out, I still had weight being held by the back wheel... if that makes sense? But I'm happy. Just have to keep the ankles strong.
How often do they flex when you're skating.
Seeing those Rollerblade Lightnings with the purple and teal brings back a lot of memories. I had those exact skates when I was 11/12 in 1993 and they were glorious.
Back in 8th grade, I found a dufflebag at the community basketball court that contained a pair of RB Lightnings. I played 3 games of basketball as the sun went down before I took the bag home with me. I skated those skates for years until I couldn't fit them and eventually spent a couple of movie theater paychecks on a pair of Solomons. I'm 37 now, and after 2020 kicked my ass, I'm getting back into rolling. It's great to find skating is reemerging in popularity, and I'm glad to rediscover something I loved as a kid.
That's what it's all about! Glad you are coming back!
You stole my skates 👀
@@ramadanslim3500 prob, sorry bro
I had those rollerblades! My first pair lol. Now I'm on here 20 years later since I last skated trying to get back into it and I'm slightly overwhelmed by all the choices. Like going from a pager to a flip phone then jumping all the way to a tablet!
I'm just getting back into it as well I used to love inline skating when I was younger anything with wheels but I've always preferred skating. Good luck and have fun
No trolling here. Just some input which has most likely been brought up before...
Stability comes from from a longer frame base. Consider the skier. Longer skies, more stable at high speed. Shorter skis, nimble for turning but unstable if your bombing down hill. This is why you can buy a 125mm set-up with a short frame for urban skating, or a 125mm set up for speed skating with a 12 to 13 inch frame. Note the gap between the wheels. Long frames, decrease your turning ratio, short frames allow for shorter turning. Try both length frames to prove this out by only turning on your edges (never lift your foot from the ground and only lean into your turn), and you'll experience a dramatic difference.
All said, great video. We are all skaters and learn from each other. Peace.
I've been skating 3/125mm for a few years. Two cons I noticed that are never addressed: Wheels wear out faster because there's one less wheel to provide that extra friction. There's also more shock transfer from the one big wheel under your foot, instead of the two that more evenly distribute the shock. Im going to go back to an 8 wheel setup.
Great points! Thanks for the input!
With Powerslide Nexus frame you can slightly rocker either front or rear wheel to address the distribution problem. With a regular frame you can install 120mm front wheel. I love my 125's; they're on whenever I want max speed. Triskates do wear a lot faster for me too but I'll never go back to 4x80. Try Powerslide Evo 3x90 and tell me it's not a miracle.
Thanks for the advices! I'm 36 and just as you say in your channel description, I've been wishing go back to skate since I left it couple of years ago. Every time I saw people skating I felt nostalgia, so now I've decided to go back to rolling! and I think I'll get the 3*110 configuration, so I just found your video looking for reviews and I liked it a lot, you got a new suscriber! greetings from Lima Perú. (sorry for my english, not my first language)
That's awesome! Thank you and welcome back! It's really cool to help inspire people from around the world! Thanks for commenting!
I think its also important to touch on the fact that 4 wheels are more durable than 3 as the weight is dispersed over a larger surface area of polyurethane.
Yes good point! Wheels last longer.
@@ThirtyandRollin44
How about the bearings? Bigger wheels mean lower rpm, which means less wear on the bearings.
Great wording and explanations. Having had hours of rolling on bigger wheels as a fitness skater mainly, I can't stress enough how essential it is to try out slalom skating and doing tricks. Keep rolling everybody.
I agree! Lot of skills to learn through those two types of skating.
Yea you gain a lot of intuition on you skates if you are doing slalom and a bit freestyle. That helps if you have to just react on unexpected situations.
On some days. I nearly fall 40-70 times..... But that's the point. On 99.x % of times I catch my balance again. Even if I accidently drive against obstacles....
I have been blading for over 20 yrs, just recently got back into it after a few years of not doing it. My old 4x80 blades broke so I went for the 3x110 just to try them out. At first they were really different and took some getting used to, but I love the versatility! They are so comfortable and in able to do so much! They are so smooth and love that I can do trails and I use them at the skate park too, trying to learn some new stuff! Has been a fun experience over the past 3months! Wish there were more bladers, finally convinced my step-daughter who started on skates to get blades and she loves them and is learning quickly! 🙂 so much fun! Almost a daily routine! Keep rolling!
That's great and welcome back! I hear you on the more bladers part but I think we are making a slow comeback. Thanks for watching!
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks! I haven't seen all your videos, but I was watching the half pipe one before this. I'm trying to learn how to do the drop in on the half pipe and how to work myself up to going up and over the quarter pipe with the flat top, have any tips on how to do it? I keep psyching myself out! 🤣
@@djarnag I have a how to drop in ramps video in the works.
@@ThirtyandRollin great! Will be watching for it! Thanks! Thoroughly enjoy your videos! 🙂👍🏻
It's funny how the varying wheels on in rollerblades are similar to those on wheelchairs.
I haven't skated in a long time but these 3 wheels are really interesting & it's interesting to see the new developments.
Wow, never thought about last point of pros for big wheels, but thanks to you i understood it, with larger wheels, with my 3x110 or 3x100 i definetly understand what you talking about, carving is really better and funnier then on 4x80
Your video is the best I’ve seen comparing the size and number of wheels! Thank you!
Thanks!
I'm 45. Used to skate aggressive from 18 to 23 everyday. I now have a pair of RB Twister Edge 2018 4x80 that I picked back up again last year in April. I do mostly urban city skating for cardiovascular reasons.....HATE doing cardio in the gym! I just want a skate where I can cruise and the 110s have my interest. I just hope I like them and don't find myself wanting to go back on my 4x80s. This video answered a lot of my questions! Thank you! 👍
I think you will love them for fitness and cruising!
Thank you, great overview! I rolled out in the city of Copenhagen today with 4x80 and it felt really fun riding some small features, lonely halfpipe in the docks, etc. I was thinking about 110 or 125 but changing my mind after your video.
Maybe 3x100 would be cool for you
@@BlackyRay_Patrick in one year I have found 4x90 is my world mate :)
@@VRMinde ah nice 4x90 was my last size before i went for triskates....
I really loved the speed and strong stability especially in turns even with Bad weather....
But i was missing agility and beeing able to turn fast.... Thats why i went for my 3x110.
Would love to one time try 3x90
Maybe this would be my 2 blades for different excersizes
@@BlackyRay_Patrick I tried 3x100, 3x110, 3x125 for a while and I decided I do not like 3 wheel skates 🙄 if I need agility I rotate 1st wheel with 4th and 2nd with 3rd. In two weeks I have a decent natural rocker and all the agility I need on 4 wheels. But I do not get stuck on the stairsets, manage landings on gaps better, can stall miniramp copings in the middle gap and enjoy the smaller wheels for faster acceleration.
@@VRMinde understandable im Not so much into aggressive skating. So that might be the big difference between pur choice ;)
Consider: the 110mm wheel has a 37% greater circumference meaning at any given speed it rotates significantly slower. This reduces bearing-friction. So for X amount of bearing-friction you can travel significantly faster with the 110s.
sorry to be the buzzkill here, but i think you're ever so slightly incorrect. by going to 3 wheels, rather than 4, you will increase the load on each bearing by roughly 33%, which will chew into your net gain as bearing-friction scales with the mass. you'll still have a net gain, no doubt, and i'll gladly confirm as i've used both (don't use 80s anymore). but i'm not so certain it's as significant as one may initially think.
@@AdamerioPhD Very happy with my 4X90. Seems like a good compromise. And I sometimes skate 30-40 miles on a trail.
Hey man, I am a happy user of Rollerblade Twister XT (4 x 80). They were my first skates but I used to play ice hockey for 12 years so basically once I put them on my feet I started to ride without any issues. I use them on an outside track (1 mile long). I usually do 10 laps. Sometimes less, sometimes more. It has like 1/3 mile of straight road so with 80mm wheels you need to use a lot of muscles to reach a high speed to go through that with a smile on your face. Sometimes I go urbanskating with my friend who rides a bicycle. I guess the best way would be buying another pair (Rollerblade Twister Edge 110 for the track and keeping XT for the city/slalom sessions). Selling is not an option because I would get at best half of the money spent. BTW. I love my XT, they are simply amazing. I saw you also like the older model.
I wish I had seen this before buying my new blades (3x110mm) lol I was so surprised when I couldn’t turn as sharply as my 4x72mm blades ffff (in hindsight, it seems like it’s obvious) However, I still really love their design and the overall smoothness on bumpy trails
Great info! Just got myself a set of PS Reign Kronos 3x100mm. Love the short 215mm frames as they allow me to stay nimble whilst the larger wheels grant additional pace.
Yes I would imagine 3x100mm would be a great size! Enjoy them!
Would love to test them. I'm on Powerslide next pro 3x110mmm
I think would be the perfect frame lenght for slalom driving and freestyle skating if you are not willing to get on small wheels.
Really liked the break down of the main differences between the 2 frame types, i know this was more about wheel setups but no mention about the influence of different wheels on comfort and speed ? (basicly harder is faster but less comfortable and vice versa). On a personal note in my opinion 3x100 is now the best jack of all trades setup over 4x80. the speed and comfort of bigger wheels and because of the shorter frame more agile then 4x80.
Why do som triskates have so much spacing in between the wheels? The frame length could be reduced thus not as prone to clipping during crossovers.. ?!
@anul6801 the main point is speed, a longer frame has a bigger leverage making i posible to generate more speed.
3 wheels have less drag then 4 which means more speed. And as a bonus a long frame ads stability (so you don't fall forward or backwards). The cost for all this is that they are not very nimble / quick to turn.
@@Daedje thank you i have 3 pair of skates. One hockey skate with 2*80 and 2*76 in the front if i remember correctly those are for quicker turns. Then i have K2 4*90 which are much easier going over rocks than the first pair. Then i have a powerslide off road pair 3*150 with air tires but those are very slow and ski poles is a must. Its more for down hill rather than bad roads imho because of the slowness. Now i ordered a pair of 3*110 with 85 hardness wheels. But to my surprise they had much more spacing then necessary in between the wheels. I would like a wheel that can travel thru bad asphalt roads without too much vibrations but also able to cruise control thru the streets with good maneuverability. Also being able to perform brakes. I like to be out a few hours without getting tired and just listening to music and enjoying the day in mixed environments. The 4*90 frame is good on most surfaces but a bit clumsy in crossovers and turns. I figured 3*110 would be perfect for the job due to its shorter length. True or false?
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!!
OMG can't believe you have a pair of the TRS Lightnings, to this day still my favorite skate.
Agreed!
Same
I had the Bladerunner 2s back in the day. They shipped with 70mm wheels (I think) and could maybe accept 72mms. The Aeroblades came out with 76mm wheels and that was a huge deal at the time. I just picked up the Twister 3x110s and I’m loving it!
Nice! Enjoy the 110s!
Great video, I would just add the 4x90s which are somewhere in between and don't feel much different than 80s for beginners but really add the stability and speed of a bigger wheel. It's a great compromise imo.
I also noticed I don't feeel the rough surface as much on 4 x 90.
@@rururu5630can you put 90mm on a skate that stocks 80mm?
I think a short wheelbase (231) 3x 100mm is the best all rounder for city bashing
Ya that's a great in between.
Nice breakdown. Good stuff buddy.
Thanks dude!
deeply appreciate this insight now need to find what brand
Gunna roll 4x80s with a slight rocker for smooth and agile ride. Ty for the video and your experience, it helped me decide on my first set of frames. Cheers!
if you can grab a set of 3 x 125mm (say the GC kit), give it a go, well worth it.
I haven't tried 125s yet as I was scared they would be too specific of a wheel size but after the 110s I just wanna go bigger for those long trail/road rolls! I think the 125s will be my next setup.
@@ThirtyandRollin I have the 125mm ground control kit with aluminium frame. Super rigid. I went straight from aggressive to 125 (because why not...) and apart from the height and the relative slow acceleration it is a blast. Speed and wind become your friends, tight cornering is hairy. A good solid boot is necessary otherwise a lot of energy will go to waste. I mounted them on a pair of seba CJ wellsmore (because carbon) but I think something more freestyle oriented, tighter on the foot and with more carbon would be better suited, although a UFS freestyle boot isn't common.
Edit : wall ride on 125 is fun BTW 😉
@@RageForSeven I'm sold! Time to save.
@@ThirtyandRollin 2nd market is a very good place to start
told you i keep seeing your comments on other videos hahah. all the best.
They are actually less stable at speed because the wheelbase is shorter than a typical 4 wheel blade. I think you are thinking about the overall length but it is the point where the wheels touch the ground. Thats like saying a unicycle having a giant 36in diameter wheel is more stable ….
Really good information. Thank you.
No problem! Glad I could help!
Skates with 4 small wheels are more stable and agile so better for urban skating with lots of stopping, going, and turns, while the larger wheels are better for long distance or trail skating.
Thanks for the video! Now I'm thinking that it's better for me to buy the best hard boot I can afford with 4x80 frame and then later to buy a 3x125 frame to be able to exchange them from time to time.. maybe later I'll buy hard boots also for the bigger wheels.. we'll see:)
The public roads here are in such poor condition that i would still suggest large wheel triskate set ups
Ya definitely go bigger if your only roads are a bit shit.
@@ThirtyandRollin What if my roads are shitty, downhill or uphill all the time with quick turns in some areas? I feel like I would need them both 😅
@@petrm.7148 I would roll 3x100.
@@ThirtyandRollin Thank you, I have bought 3x125 (powerslide next) and it feels awesome! I can turn as tight as with my old 4x84, as it has even smaller wheelbase. So my worries I couldnt make it down the hill dissapeared :D I just have a little bruise on a navicular bone, which I have not even known about until now :D Just hope it will solve itself out after a couple of rides.
@@petrm.7148 Ahhh nice! Glad that's working for you. Get better soon!
Nice breakdown of wheel size differences!Concerning wheel diameter...Does anyone know the wheel size of old Bauer F3 Fitness roller blades? I think the setup had two sizes, 72 and 70mm but not sure. I was thinking of restoring my old skates but don't know what wheels to use. Any thoughts/suggestions? Thanks!
Just got some 3x110s and hoping to try em tomorrow 😎 shitty weather just now
Nice! I hear ya on the shitty weather. I am waiting on a good window as well!
I have 4x80-3x100-3x110, and 110/125 are perfect for routes/Fitness, if youu want somehting realy agile and fast i use 4x80 for urban/tricks and 3x100 for urban/fitness, because i get more speed but keep alot of the agility!!
3x100 would be a perfect mix I would think. I really need to try a few more sizes now. Thanks for the input!
With all of our skateparks closed I was genuinely considering going tri-skates but you've convinced me to stick to 4x80! Awesome video man, glad you did it
Thanks dude! 4x80 is much more versatile for a big wheels setup coming from aggressive.
@@ThirtyandRollin would love to test a 3x90 setup :D
@@BlackyRay_Patrick I feel like that would be too short. Or too spaced out. At that point I would rather have a 4x80.
@@ThirtyandRollin I didn't say it would be a good reasonable deal but I'm 100% sure it would be interesting just for testing ....
@@BlackyRay_Patrick for sure!
Was helpful. I'm on the look out to get some big wheels and this video was good food for thought. Thanks for breaking this down.
No problem. I'm glad it helped!
I would recommend 110s as they are big but not too big. This is unless all you do is trail/road skate in long straight sections. Then get 125s.
very helpful tips.. thanks! I prefer smaller wheels...
what's the middle ground size then?
4x90
@@ThirtyandRollin 80s or 90s? what about wheel cost for 80s, 90s, 110+?
Is there much difference from 4x80 and 4x90? I’m planning to use my skates as transportation, urban skating, and tons of tricks/ technical skating.
4x90 have a bit better roll/momentum and smoothness but not a huge difference.
Kind of an expansion of this topic, but I'm returning to skating after 20 years. My last pair of skates, I bought in like 1995. ha. A couple days ago, I went longboarding for the first time and a friend of mine used my old skates to come along. We swapped at the end and I realized that skating might be really good for strengthening my very unstable (sprained it numerous times) ankle. SO, I on a whim I bought a new pair that were on sale without doing proper research. I don't have them yet and can return them, but I'm wondering what you thoughts are on a skate that has 100 in the back and 90 in the front? Specifically the K2 VO2 S 100 women's skates? I'm a little worried now because I do have an unstable ankle and it has been a while. I live up in Vancouver BC and would primarily be skating on bike paths. We would occasionally go around the Sea Wall as well which is basically an obstacle course of people. And the only jumping I'd be doing would be off curbs. I'm not super confident skating after so many years either, but there is still a natural feeling to it even after just doing it for 15 minutes. Sorry this is so long! :)
Those lightnings are mint 😍
Yep just got lucky at my local Goodwill recently. I was super stoked! They have been used maybe once.
Think I'm going to grab some of the Powerslide Next core 90s soon. Kind of in the middle with a 4x90 setup.
4x90 is a great setup. Right in the middle. Those NEXT shells look dope too!
I'm eyeing the Powerslide next 90mm too, feel like its a sweet spot after all the reviews I've seen.
@@DoctoreDoom Those are a great setup! You can't go wrong with a good 4x90!
Yeah! Myself just thinking about taking up skating, I go for the 3x 110's just because I just want to go for a skate, just like Poeple say I'm going for bicycle ride. I don't see myself on skate parks. I like thought of trail skating. Just like Venice beAch was famous for at one time we have the same beach trails just like Venice beach, California downunder. Plus you show us the safer way to stop is, pizza, j- stop and slide. Plus, I'm in my thirties and I just want to finally see if I could take all the tutorials into practise and if can skate. Haven't skated since I was eight. Back then I didn't have the patience and gave up. But I didn't have RUclips to watch how to skate. I remember getting up on a pair of roller skates and it felt like someone pulling the rug out from under you.
Tri-skates for me. For cruising. The trails, beach and park.
Sounds like a great plan! You got this just don't give up and take it slow.
That's exactly my reasoning, gotta new pair of powerslide 110's just waiting for me, leaned on my GF 80's, just a beginner, but used to skate and play hockey so maybe above the beginner stage
If you only knew how my wife and I been watching all your videos at night. Thanks for the info! I come from an aggresive inline scene and Ive skated since second grade... broke my rib cage around the age of 18 and had to quit cause of doctors order . Now im urging to get back on them and loving the 3x110mm but feeling insecure if I should go for the smaller ones that I have a closer muscle memory on.
That's awesome! Thanks! I would go 3x110 if you want a longer distance cruiser setup but 4x80 if you want a more jack of all trades setup.
Awaiting delivery of the 2021 Maxxum Edge 90. A 4 x 90 setup seems to be the perfect middle ground for me!
Yes 4x90 is a great one skate quiver!
I started skating again after more than a decade. Picked up 3x110, love the speed and the looks but my skating is terrible haha. Tried 4x80 and 4x90 and i must say 4x80 would be ideal for a comeback guy like me . At least i can do crossovers on them 😅
Same concept applies in all wheeled sports. Bigger is faster, efficient, better rollover. Smaller is quicker, more maneuverable. And generally you adapt to whatever you ride. Manufacturers will always stick with something for compatibility and cost until a new thing comes along that is regarded as "better." Mountain bike wheels were 26" for 30 years and now 29" and 27.5 are the standards. Everything changes.
Yup!
Really well explained and your insight is just spot on here. However, I've been discovering for some time that if you can master agility on 3x110, it's huge fun to whizz through the city.
Totally agree! Especially if you get a shorter 243 3x110 frame.
@@ThirtyandRollin im still asking myself if 110 is the best or 100 would be better.
i would definitely not buy a new frame to get down to 100 so a advantage might not even exist.
maybe one day if i decide to get a rockered frame...
I've heard some people talk of a rockered setup on three wheels. I'm too amateur for rockered on anything, but would that improve the agility on 3x110 wheels enough to match it with the 4x80?
@@swingstylez Yes but they would still be less stable because of the height. And I am not sure what wheels you would rocker them with. It needs to be subtle.
@@ThirtyandRollin I've probably misunderstood your question but there are skates that come with elliptical axles, and some frames that are rockered, so you can use the same wheels on every axle. You probably know about these so I've probably misunderstood your question!
80mm vs 90mm ? great video thanks
How about the 4×90's and 3×100's? Would 90s be better than 80mm when it comes to wheel wobble when under speed and going over gravely or rough road terrain?
Yes love a good 4x90 for a all rounder over a 3x110
I still skate Lightning TRS's
What's up man. Is it a big jump from 4×80mm to a 4x90mm. I'm on the fence on which powerslides next 80 or 90 I'm going to purchase. Help! 🙏🏼
Nope go for it!
It would be interesting to plot a graph or something on speed vs control and stuff like that for different wheel sizes.
I just got a pair of Rollerblades with 100 wheels, coming from Rollerblades with 84.
I would expect slightly more control than 110 but lesser speed/momentum. Also more bumpiness from the road.
But how much? Idk. Wish I had a graph to see
Good idea!
Nice video , I have the Powerslide Next 110s and the wheels are a lot closer together than the 110s you show here, so maybe they are more like the 4x80s than your ones , cos when i went from 4x80 to 110s i found them as agile and manoeuvrable.
Nice!
Great video and descriptions. Would have been nice to have video of you skating some examples spliced in :)
Ya that's true but at the time I just wanted to get something out.
I just ordered 4x72 skates and I was hoping that I could use them to skate long distances and maybe stop and do some stalls and grinds and jumps. (they're aeons with the H plate for grinding) am i going to enjoy myself rolling around with those?
You will be fine. But you may find you want larger wheels later on.
Hi I order PS next 100 today. I want better control. Speed is not so important for me. I like balance between speed and control. But i see people usually prefer 110. Should I rather buy 110? I ride 4x80 until now. I just want inrease speed little bit and still got good control...
3x100 or 4x90 would be a good choice!
I'm hooked on 3x125mm, even for city/urban skating. They handle rough surfaces like no other! lol
I really want to get on a pair!
@@ThirtyandRollin Do it! xD
I have 3x125 and now considering 4x110 wizards !
Nice! I want a 4x100.
For which driving style? Which purpose?
Hi, maybe you can help me out. I'm using 100 mm right now and I'm quiet happy with them. I like to go longer distances, like 15 km or so. I'm thinking about getting 110mm. Is there much of a difference between 100 and 110 mm? Or even 125mm? Any opinions?
I little difference in roll momentum and smoothness in the 110s compaired to the 100s but not too much. The 125s is a huge difference but I don't like being up that high.
@@ThirtyandRollin Okay, thanks for answering.
I'm really considering giving the Triskates a go, mostly out of curiosity, but the higher stance and speeds (both for being faster and more unstable in lower speeds) are something that holds me a little since the last time I rollerskated was about 10+ years ago, so if I feel the 110mm are too much there is any problem in maybe downsizing for 90mm wheelbase wise? Thanks in advance!
You should be fine. It is different but nothing you won't get used to.
Great production value. Keep it up.
Thanks! I will!
Great post! What would you recommend for a beginner urban skater. Im a 6ft tal heavy set guy but i also would like to use it for fitness. Thanks!!
Depending on foot size I would say go for a 4x80 or 4x90.
@@ThirtyandRollin thank you!! Any suggestion on brands?
@@motogp2375 Rollerblade, Powerslide, FR, Flying Eagle
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks!
"I may be full of shit"....Ha ha! Nice humility there mate ;-)
Ya I like to call myself out from time to time.
Would i lose a ton of agility and stability going from 4x80 as an intermediate skater to a 4x90 Endless ? Do they offer the same sense of security and and control ? I have stock Seba 4 x 80 frames and wheels on my High Light skates. They arebok but I feel 90s may be a bit more efficient for endurance and not getting as tired from having to constantly be striding. Don't want to sacrifice the sense of security 80s offer. Maybe the Endless 84? Please help. 🙏
At first yes they will feel a bit less stable because of the rocker but as you get used to them the maneuverability will be amazing!
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks. I will definitely get them. I recently changed my wheels bearings and even axels. Had the stock seba wheels, bought RB Hydrogens. I was impressed at the difference they made also. I am looking forward to the Endless frames. Mucho gracias!
@@ThirtyandRollin also are 90mm wheels noticeably faster than 80s?
@@twistfire74 A bit but not extremely different. Especially a rockered 90 setup when only 2 wheels are touching at any given time.
@@ThirtyandRollin oh. Well that changes a lot. I like a rockered set up. With my SEBA Frames I raise the front wheel but leave the rear wheel the same as the 2 middle wheels. I thought that was how Endless were naturally. So it's a more of a banana rocker. Well I'm not wanting them for slalom. Just urban skating. Small jumps etc. Tight turns etc. But more so for an increase in speed. Not like a 110 3 wheel setup but just a bit faster. So maybe they aren't for me.
What about 4x100 or 4x110 for stability? Thanks
Less stable at slower speeds because of height. But at speed not bad because of length.
What about 3x100 wheel setup? Can they handle bumpy roads? I am try to get myself into urban skating but it's hard to do it with 4x80 with the kind of roads we have here.
Yep 3x100 is great for a smaller foot.
I was looking at the Twister 3x110, but want the capability to switch to 4x80 frames. Can you do that with the twister set up?
Yep just swap for any 165 mount 4x80 frame.
I'm a beginner. How much of difference are 4x80 and 4x84?? Which should I go for?
Not much. What's your foot size?
then who is supposed to use 4x90?
A person with smaller foot that wants bigger wheels or a person that still wants extreme maneuverability but bigger then 4x80 wheels.
I have been looking for the TRS Lightning’s in the Neon color way! Where did you find those!?!?
The Twisters or my Lightnings? Goodwill for Lightnings and Inline Warehouse for Twisters.
I've got some decent roller hockey skates (Bauer xr500) but with covid closing the rinks, I want to start skating around the neighborhood. Not sure if it's a good idea to just pick up some 80/80/76/76 street wheels for $50 or if it'd be better to go in on new 3x110 skates... The streets around here get pretty rough, but I think I prefer trying some tighter more aggressive moves over just speeding in a straight line with big swooping turns. The small wheels would definitely be better if I ever want to practice puck handling moves in a basketball court or something though
I would stay smaller with what you want to do with them.
Should I get 3×110 or 4×100?
Love your Videos btw
What are you looking to do and what size shell is your boot?
@@ThirtyandRollin i am looking forward to speed skating not much stunts and a little urban skating,i Skate Mostly In Smooth Surfaces.
Sheel size-40.
I was using 75mm size before.
And i am a advanced skater.
Thanks for reading the comment ❤️
@@farooqbichumani7045 I'd go with a flat 4x100
@@ThirtyandRollin Thanks appreciated 👍
I would like to jump from an aggressive setup to a more urban experience. Should I get an 80mm frame or a 110mm frame for that purpose? my idea is to get from point A to B while having fun not just skating in a straight line. any tips?
I'd go 4x80 or 4x90
im skating with lighting rollerblade. Old fashion like me jejeje. That´s why i need a new ones.
Really great video, I come from an aggressive background but also play ice hockey, I’ve been using powerslide swell 3x110 skates but I struggle with the boot on my ankles. I’m wanting to upgrade to the rollerblade twisters and was thinking about going to 4x80mm to improve my fitness for hockey, and also to enjoy the aggressive aspect of powerblading and urban skating. I do like a good long trail run though. Do you know how the ankle support of the twisters compare to the swells?
It's night and day. The Twisters are very supportive!
Thirty and Rollin that’s excellent! Thank you I’m more thinking the 4x80mm will be a great option. But keep going back and forth. Thanks for getting back to me!
@@VinnieAndTheStars Depends what you will be doing more often with them. 80s are more playful for tricks but 110s for the longer rolls.
Thirty and Rollin ah it’s tough this week I’ve done 45km of fitness skating. I’m thinking the twisters been far more supportive and higher quality compared to the swells might give me that extra I need to do even more and stay with 3x110 haha keep changing me mind. Haha. I do have aggressive skates and roller hockey skates.
@@VinnieAndTheStars I can absolutely recommend the Powerslide next pro.
(Bought the ones with 3x110)
The shell supports strong. The inside show can be washed and be baked.
And you can even adjust the shell and the frames to what suits you the most. I could wear these skates 24/7 (Only downside is the price)
Ahh, if only I had seen this before they sold me 90.... Can you give me some advice, since I bought a rollerblade macroblade 90 and I'm not happy with how fast I'm going because I'm a beginner and struggling to stop. Would it make a difference to change only the wheels for 80mm or would I have to replace the whole frame? Maybe the solution is to buy brand new ones, although I would prefer that to be the last option. Any advice is welcome
80s will be a bit easier to control and be a little slower. You can swap 90s with 80s no problem. Hope that helps.
I want to start skating, any recommendations? On what i should get
Just grab some skates that fit your budget and foot.
can i change the frame on twisters? like go from 3wd to 4wd?
Yep.
what if two smaller wheels at the front and two bigger ones at the back?
Recently got some seba e3 which come with a 4x80 setup and a hardness of 82A. I've been thinking of getting a bit of a harder wheel since 82A seems a bit too soft for the roads where I live. What do you suggest for someone still a bit new to skating?
Ya 82 is really soft for an outdoor wheel. I would just look for an 85a wheel from most any known brand. Stay away from cheap Amazon or eBay wheels.
I don't agree that 4x80 is better for urban skating. The larger wheels cope much better with inconsistent road surfaces. Wheel clipping on 3x110 isn't a universal problem either; something like an fr1 has a shorter frame that doesn't go beyond the length of the boot. I also find them more fun but that's just me.
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Hey there! I'm highly considering this bag, have any suggestions over this one? Seba seems nice but then theres the guy saying the mesh fucked up his shirts...lol..what do you think? Any more bag suggestions?
Which bag are you referring to?
@@ThirtyandRollin oh, the rollerblade bag in this video seems like the best bag out there, minus the things you highlighted...whats ur opinion 2 years later? should i get this one? im also considering the seba but idk yet
I have the Powerslide Phusions 3x110's.
They are sweet only downfall is they are not a hard boot.
Too much flex for me to be 100% comfortable/confident.
Ya I am not a fan of soft shell boots, especially on 110s.
I prefer the look of soft boots though, and I think the high end Swells and Kazes are really secure while still having better ventilation and IMO look cooler than hardboots
90mm rockered FTW
I've started skating in 2020, at the age of 40/41 something ahahaha I need to make my math here. But... My real first roller skates are the Rollerblade Cruiser 4x80 that I still have. Then, I wanted a faster one and bought a Powerslide Zoom Pro 3x100. I like it, but I didn't feel a bigger different, maybe because the stock Hurricane wheels are too smooth and they hold you back in comparison to the 4x80 stock rollerblade wheels. I love skating. It's a big part of my life now and I'm looking forward to get my third roller skates now: either àn FR skates FR 2 3x110 or a rollerblade Twister 3x110.
Hey man.... what’s the best 3x110 for the more narrow foot ? Thanks
Twister Edge 3WD
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks dude ! Seem to
Be sold out everywhere :(
@@Journey11 Ya unfortunately that's how getting skate are right now. Hopefully that will soon change.
Hey dude, love your videos, they're all on point 👌
Just a quick question to you, do you reckon I could combine the Michal Prado Gawds boots with 4x80mm wheels to do freeskating? I love the gawds but don't skate aggressive, only freeskate on roads, just wanna know your if the boot will be good enough for freeskating.
Cheers man, love your videos 👊👍
Yep you can but that boot will be heavier than a normal free skate boot. You may also get hung up on hard turns on the wide soul plates.
@@ThirtyandRollin awesome advice! Cheers bro, will definitely try before I buy then, possibly think about getting a thinner soul plate for them too... thanks a lot man, legend 👊
@@DannyBoy293 No problem.
What do you think about 4x90 skates? Would they be as maneuverable as 4x80 or slightly less because of longer wheel base? I'm thinking of picking up the Powerslide Next Core 90 skates but I'm not sure I'll like them. I'm an old aggressive skater who is currently skating on twister edge x (2018) that are 4x80 and have been getting better with them. They just hurt my feet and constantly give me blisters when I skate for more than an hour. I'm looking for a more comfortable skate/boot for city/urban skating mainly.
What's you foot size? 4x90 will feel very close to 4x80 but might be a faster/smoother and better base than 4x80 for a size 10 foot and up.
@@ThirtyandRollin I'm a size 9. 10 inch foot size so 25.4 cm. So you're saying I should just stick with 4x80?
@@jessa.3857 You could go either way. The 4x80 will be more playful but the 4x90 will be a faster smoother stable ride.
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks for your help!
@@jessa.3857 No problem. I don't think you can go wrong. 4x80 is classic and versatile frame but if you wanted a bigger wheeled skate without going 3x110 a 4x90 is a good option too.
Would a 60mm flat setup like the Aeon 60 work for urban/city skating, skating around town (pavements, street, cracks etc.), or are those wheels just too small to handle that kind of environment?
They would work but would be an awful experience for city skating.
@@ThirtyandRollin Ok, thanks
@@mountainpeakcloud8442 Grab a 4x80 or larger.
@@ThirtyandRollin I was actually thinking of going with the Roces M12s and then getting a 4x80 frame for it so I can switch between urban and aggressive. Sorry to bug you with another question, but is this a good idea... would the M12 lo provide enough support for a decent around town skate? Cheer.
@@mountainpeakcloud8442 Yep! That would work. Not the most supportive but will work.
Can U have both? As in change all it from small too big?
Yes with two frames or the new Endless frames.
I’ve never skated with inclined skates and I want a pair for Christmas. I really want 3 wheeled skates but I don’t know if I should start out with them. Would it be better to start out with 3 or 4 wheeled skates? :)
4 is slightly easier for beginners but you could do either. All depends on your balance and agility for picking up new athletic sports.
@@ThirtyandRollin ok. What size wheels should I do if I get 3 wheeled skates?
@@shedome756 3x100 or 3x110 not 3x125
@@ThirtyandRollin ok thank you!! 😁
Big bearings are what will really change skating ability. No matter how big the wheels is they still roll in a tiny balls in a smalk bearing that limited its ability.
If its me ill innvented a bit bigger bearings which will change skating world now and forever.
New subscriber here. I'm quite an advanced skater and the biggest wheels I tried were 4 x 90mm wheels that I use now and they are worn out. I do very well on them. I was thinking of trying out the 125mm. I'll be skating downtown in Toronto. What do you think I should get? I do a lot of tricks btw.
125s are amazing if you are cruising but not so much for tricks as the center of balance is much higher off the ground. A 110 setup would be a good compromise IMO
@@ThirtyandRollin Is a 110 setup faster than a 4 x 90mm set up?
@@chesterl.5922 Don't know if it is faster but it will be smoother.
@@ThirtyandRollin Thank you. I'll go with the 125mms