Just listen, that's all... "Portamento" is the natural "effect" on the violin, when you go from one note to another. "Glissando" is a "special effect", you glide one note to another creating a gliss....
Glissando sounds like the notes glide from a low point to the highest point. Portamento sounds like it goes from a low point to a higher point then low then up to the highest point. I think that is what he means. Say a scale of 1 to 10 - Glissando may mean going from point 1 to 10 Portamento may mean going from point 1 to 5 back to 1 and then to 10. Hope I make sense :) Hope I am right :)
blonde7000 You are right. A Glissando carries the note from one note to another. A Portamento glides but not necessarily the entire distance from one to another. A continuous Portamento would be the same as a glissando. I guess I am really not that clear on that video. LOL
You are the teacher I have been looking for for years. You have the Nack of making something difficult look much easier and within reach for us meer begginers. Thank You.
You are an amazing violinist, Pierre. I love your rich, personalized sound. And I enjoy these brief, pedagogical vignettes where you beautifully demonstrate the concepts. Two thumbs up from me!
Oh please! That racist, anti-semite, bigot, and all around bad drunk? Ewwww! Isn't it amazing how alcohol becomes people's, especially celebritie's, "tell all, air our dirty laundry for everyone to hear," elixer? It's always a disappointment when a celeb falls from grace. We saw Mel in movies that made people want to fall in love with him, like What Women Want, Signs, etc,,, then,,, he ties one too many on, and gets arrested for DUI, makes anti-semetic comments, then goes on a flippin talk show and rants about the Jews. Now I'll admit the unscrupulous cop that recorded Gibson's drunken tirade, and made it public for profit and got no reprimand for it, was wrong for doing what he did, but it did inform us as to Mel's true feelings. After Mel came Shia Labeouf, not just ranting about Jews, but about African Americans and Homosexuals too. Looks like celebs would avoid alcohol, if they value their careers, and career making roles.
Not really sure anymore. LOL Portamento actually means to carry the note. So carry the note from one note to another. Glissando means to slide. This would technically be the same thing as Portamento but maybe Glissando is more slide and Portamento can be anything that transfers the note from one to another. Confusing right????
I have just discovered what a "Portamento" in a VST and because of your video I now concretely understand how this sound is produce! Also it's the coolest sound ever in my opinion !!!!! x)
I'm not much of a violinist, but, in music in general (not specifically violin music), glissando (or gliss) and portamento are confusing words that you might hear more than one possible set definitions for. The difference between the two that I've most commonly heard is that a portamento is when you slide smoothly from one pitch to another(passing momentarily through every theoretically possible pitch between them), while a glissando is when you play every note in-between (either chromatically (all notes on a piano) or in a diatonically (only notes in a scale, like all the white keys on a piano)) discretely. The latter is easier (or the only one possible) on many instruments, but I imagine it is more difficult on violin. It is also interesting to to note that I've mostly only seen/heard of the word portamento online. When trombone players get portamentos it is written "gliss.", and that's what we call it when we sing large ones (in choir, etc.). So, in my experience, when people refer to glissandos they mean what I called a portamento (a smooth slide between notes). However, it's also written "gliss." in piano and xylophone music, where it clearly refers to a discrete glissando. Saxophones, trumpets, clarinets, etc. also play a variety of pitch bends, such as "falls", and I think "scoops", "slides" and "glisses", but I'm not an expert on what their music says or what they actually call them (I might be misremembering.) Wind players also play "rips" or discrete glissandos. If you look at the Wikipedia page for portamento (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portamento), it focuses on the singing technique of sliding between notes in a melody, much how Fiddlerman uses the term. While you're on wikipedia, if you look up glissando (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glissando), you'll see it explores this terminology confusion. If you didn't see, in his reply to Kurt Johnson, Fiddlerman clarifies (I think) that what he meant in the video is that a glissando is any continuous pitch slide, and a portamento is any time you connect notes using a glissando, (no matter what speed(s) the glissando is at).
Yes, as a pianist I stumbled a bit learning about the two in the context of strings. I will say that portamento seems to be more of a technical necessity when it comes to the strings. Whereas either a discrete or blurred/ non-discrete glissando is fully intended for enhancing expression, portamento seems to be more a technical necessity as the player connects distant notes. In order to finger far away notes a player would inevitably slide their (second) finger to the new location, resulting in the expressiveness of a glissando. I've seen that the "new-finger" method is more so used for portamento, and not so much the old-finger method (though glissando can use either method). So if the new finger "belongs" to the note you wanna get at, sliding it up the fingerboard (as opposed to the old finger) would support the theory that portamento is more so a necessity. It also seems that portamento can sometimes be done at the discretion of a player, but a composer can still instruct it.
thank you man, I'm in an orchestration class (with no previous experience) and this really helps me with aurally identifying these different techniques. Im sure ill be back!
@krishnaisindahouse - It looks like that from the front angle and also because I am up on the G string past the body of the instrument. You see the hand has to come around the violin body for the fingers to reach. If I had filmed it from the side instead of straight on you would have seen that most of the movement is back and forth. Also if you notice I am not holding the violin very much with my chin. If I clamp down a bit more the violin would be steady.
It looks like around 1:46, you are using arm vibrato and then wrist vibrato around 1:54, that is if I am recognizing them correctly. I’m still learning vibrato and curious to know if you alternate for specific effects or just personal preference.
Yes, exactly. For me, I use more arm vibrato when I want a bigger/wider vibrato for romantic playing and a bit more wrist when I want a faster more classical vibrato. However, I mix them, combine them and change them according to the sound I want to get. Eventually it might come naturally for you. Thanks for watching.
Maple bottom and Spruce top are standard and what has proven to have the best overall results. Many makers have tried other combinations and some with fairly good results. You can even find great carbon fiber violins. 4/4 = full size, is by far the best sounding and one usually doesn't play a smaller instrument unless you are very small and can't handle a full size fiddle.
Actually the two terms are very much interchangeable but I would vote for glissando. With a portamento, you carry the note from one tone to another but not necessarily the whole way whereas a glissando is a glide from one pitch to another. I would pick a portamento as being more musical but it doesn't need to be so big.
Portamento @ 4/4 C-D legato (major second), half notes: C is crotchet (quarter note) plus seven demisemiquaver and just before full half one demisemiquaver is raised to D. D is full half note. Glissndo A violin continuous glide on any interval. On winds needs a cord and than is played as light touch of natural harmonics within that interval.
Can you tell me the names of the music and who it was by? I would love to play those or If you have the sheet music could you give it to me? Also what does a portamento look like in music? is it a scwiggly line connecting two notes or a straight line connecting two notes
I know this is a bit late to respond but I will explain anyway. Portamento is usually not written in the music. It is a technique that is often used as a necessity to bring out the melody line. Also, you can use portamento when there are two notes tied by a slur. However, it can be often get mixed up with glissando. The first music is called 'Emperor's Waltz by Johann Strauss and the second is the popular violin solo 'Czardas' by Vittorio Monti.
Thanks a lot! This was really helpful for me cos I´m doing a work about Music and Architecture, aplying music concepts to design of buldings. Greetings from Spain!
I use D'Addario's Artcraft rosin now. Previously I was using Andrea Solo Rosin. I have completely switched over to Zyex and can't imagine ever changing again. Used to use Obligato, Eva Pirazzi, and Dominant. For my violin the Zyex strings are far superior plus they break in very quickly.
Thank you so much Fiddlerman. I'm working on the Czardas now... but man oh man does my Ming wolf on the Bb (and the A isn't all that good either). Do you have any videos on technique to eliminate wolf notes? Thanks again.
Actually I don't. But vibrato is great for eliminating wolf tones since you cover a broader area of the tone. Sometimes it helps to press harder with the bow hand as well. Where are you located? Our shop might be able to solve that for you.
I actually don't use a shoulder-rest, except for that rubber red round pad. I have a custom raised high Stuber chin-rest which may be what you are referring to. I had my luthier, many years ago, do that for me.
Do you have a video of how to put weight into the bow, I have heard it dramatically effects the tone quality and have tried to find a simple instruction video on the subject, thanks for all the free vids and taking the time to do them .
I think it is best to watch and listen to violin maestros do this. It not only dramatically affects the tone, but it also changes the dynamics and style of music.
It's the same thing. I know that I'm confusing in that video. There is a slight difference with a Portamento but a portamento includes a "slide". Just that you don't keep it continuous from one note to the other.
@@1stfiddlerman Thanks for your response. As a person who does a lot of music notation, is there a place where you would use one symbol over the other? It seems that a glissando would probably be better for classically trained musicians, whereas a slide would be better for pop and rock musicians who are guitarists and electric bass players. Correct me if I wrong here.
@@boogybass I would generally not even write glissando or slide, rather use the straight or squiggly line from one note to the other. I agree that glissando works better in classical music. It's kind of that way we use a lot of Italian as well in notation.
I'm transcribing "The Devel Went Down to Georgia" from Violin to Viola, and I was wondering what's the name for that part at the begining that sounds like a mix of glissando and tremelo? It's right after the scale-ish part at the begining.
Beautiful tunes you've played! I'm gonna look for that Emperor's March... On the other hand, I didn't understand quite well. I believe glissando is the equivalent to a slide on a guitar for example. To slide up or down on a string, sounding those two notes and the inbetweeners on a row. But portamento I don't catch it, I just think it was too fast. I got this concept: Portamento is used between two notes -adjacent or not-, on a single string, changing pitch so (I don't know what to put here... So fast, so smooth, so unnoticeable?) that it almost sound like no change has happened. O.o So I'm confused! What do you mean by "but not connect the two notes"?
Actually almost none. A Portamento includes a glissando but doesn't deliberately connect one note to another. It might start on the note, slide, then without traveling the whole way, end and play the next note. Or start a gliss just before the intended note you're landing on. Kind of an ornament that can be short, fast, small, but not deliberately from one note to another like a glissando.
What if I have to glissando from open D string to 5 lines above the staff in one beat (83bpm)? It seems impossible, at least to do it like the original artist (Lindsey Stirling - Beyond the Veil).
Not if you know where to land. Find the note first and memorize your ending point. Then practice your glissando in beat. Start slowly and increase the tempo. I'm doing Q&A's but haven't received many. My only requirement is that you ask on a video and send me the video so that I can use it on my tutorial. You're welcome to submit one to me if you want some more help with that glissando.
What song was it that he was playing to demonstrate us in the beginning and could you tell me where to find it because I search up emperors march and star wars comes up
I'm so sorry that I said March. I should have said Waltz. Kaiser-Walzer, Op. 437 is also known as Emperor Waltz, a waltz composed by Johann Strauss II in 1889. Thanks for watching!
Great violinist! Would you mind posting a video of you playing Partita No.2 in Dminor (Allemande) that has a lot of places where you can use glissando but i see people use it way to intense and it takes away the true value of the song and i think it would be cool to see how you interpret it.
You can't do it without it being audible. You need to be fast and it has it's own effect. I recommend you starting on the lowest strings and moving up till you get to the target note. Or vise versa.
No, Lord Mardolo : Fiddlerman is right. "Glissando" does come from French, and was "italianized" several centuries ago, when Italian was THE language of music. Exactly as the French verb "swinger" (to swing) was borrowed to English vocabulary by jazz musicians a hundred years ago. But it still remains an English word adopted by the French.
I love your tone, man! (I'm sorry, I'm primarily a hard rock guitarist, and I don't know the correct terms. Not that I can't know because I'm that kind of guitarist, but we just seem to have our own lingo. Hahaha)
Haha thanks. You can certainly play well. I was in a hurry and wanted the laymans answer! I feel like glissando is featuring the 'slide' and portamento is about connecting the notes so they're not staccato.
+Jamien Liston Truth is that in the business we refer to sides, glissandos and portamentos interchangeably and incorrectly all the time. A portamento simply connects notes together but doesn't mean that you must slide from start to finish. A portamento can be done in any way you like. You can start a slide and end the connection with a different finger or start a note and end the connecting note with a slide. :) I know, still confusing (face palm)
A glissando is chromatic and a Portamento is more of a slide, especially in singing. Glissando you hear semitones, sometimes even microtones. A portamento is a slide, usually between a smaller interval. ruclips.net/video/TKdwv6_QnvY/видео.htmlsi=7dur-gzSErXRubZJ
Friend. i want to ask you about a technique often used in irish folk which is a third harmony on two slided strings. what is the name of that expression? Thank you for sharing your knowledge on these videos
Fiddlerman Thank you.... I am composing a piece with a Romani sound... being a bassoonist, I do not know how to notate some of the nuances that I would like to hear. Looking at these examples will help!
I'm sorry for not being very clear. A glissando is any note which is carried from one tone to another. There are different types of glissandos such as a portamento which may start from the written note and not end with it or the opposite, start between notes and end on the written note. A continuous glissando would be from the written note and ending on the written note.
I'm not fm, but for me, i use dark rosin in every climate I'm in, it;s much more richer, more softer, it grips my strings well, and it does not often leave rosin dusts on my fingerboard...if you want a smooth sound, you probably need more rosin....or probably less rosin, for me, i don't use much rosin, a little rosin does the smooth bowin' for me :)
I never wrote a scrip for any video and it shows. LOL I rarely listen to a video after I have posted it but sometimes when I do, I really wonder how I could have said something and how the heck did I actually post the darn video. ROFL
I disagree about the light rosin being better for humid climates. There aren't many more humid climates than Florida where I live and I prefer by far dark rosin. It gives a better connection. Light rosin can glide over the strings too easily for me at times.
Hey , master , I have this music sheet with a remark written as : en glissant , it means glissando , right ? Actually , it is the famous music sheet of Zigeunerweisen , the part with "en glissant" sounds like your finger is positioned at each note for a very short time instead of gliding all the way to another lower note. I'm confused with this remark ,should I put my finger at each note and move it quickly or just glide ?
Yes it does. But it's more like, in a glissando way. What you do is glide one finger in a pulsating way, kind of stopping on all those notes. Try a fast vibrato allowing the hand to slip on the way down. I know the spot that you are referring to. That is the best way I can explain it. Good luck with it. 😁
In my opinion, the portamento is less obvious than a glissando. Portamento is more discrete and might just carry the tone at the very end. A glissando is more obvious. Truthfully though, they are very much interchangeable and mean basically the same thing. Portamento carries the pitch from one not to another and a glissando is a glide from one note to another.
What if it's just an extremely fast scale is it still a glissando? or just a fast scale. Hear me out, the reason I say this is because on the piano you can play an extremely fast scale with your fingers but it won't be considered a glissando, but when you use the back of your fingers to play a fast scale then it is considered a glissando. To be fair, yes piano and violin are completely different instruments. But it'll be interesting to distinguish exactly what is considered a glissando on violin because of the nature of the instrument it seems confusing to me.
It shouldn't matter whether it's up or down, surely! Regardless of your years spent in Swedish orchestras, your definition is very confusing. I would refer you to the opening clarinet figure in Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue. The clarinet does a run up playing individual notes fast, aka a glissando, then changes to go seemlessly up the scale without fingering or indicating the notes, to arrive at a final note. That, then, to me is portamento. You don't seem to differentiate clearly between the two. A harp or piano is I believe technically unable to do portamento; trombonists spend all their time trying to avoid it. Is that ok? I wonder what Gershwin's notation is.
There is a great deal of confusion on this topic. Part of the confusion comes from hundreds of years of bad translations. However, glissando and portamento have nothing to do with whether they are played before or after the PRINCIPAL notes. Glissandi, in piano music, are sometimes written. Portamento, from what a teacher has told me, is similar to portato, or half-staccato.
Michael Gfroerer I agree that I am very unclear but a portamento is a pitch being carried from one note to another and I was trying to say that the difference between a glissando and portamento would be that if a note begins or ends on the principle note it would be called a portamento, though technically it's a glissando too. I strongly disagree that a Portamento is anything like a Portato. With a Portato there isn't a glissando but a connection without much separation. You connect notes (slur them) while giving a new articulation on the next note.
Thanks, this is one of the lessons in which I don't know what I was saying. LOL Just turn on the video and talk without thought. LOL Good luck with your progress!!!
What a great tone you have on that violin..!! Wonderful. Rich and woody. I love it..!! And thanks a lot for the explanation.
Anytime :-) Thanks
Wow, I've never seen someone with such expertise so excited to teach others about articulations before. You earned my sub
Thanks so much. It's my pleasure and I'm happy that you watched the video. Cheers
You're a fantastic player, but the timbre on your violin is just amazing, I love it so much!
I might sell it. I'm considering getting a MJZ 909 instead. :)
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you make me more confused.
Just listen, that's all...
"Portamento" is the natural "effect" on the violin, when you go from one note to another.
"Glissando" is a "special effect", you glide one note to another creating a gliss....
Portamento literally means "carrying", so a portamento carries the note from one tone to another. You can do that with a glissando.
Glissando sounds like the notes glide from a low point to the highest point. Portamento sounds like it goes from a low point to a higher point then low then up to the highest point. I think that is what he means. Say a scale of 1 to 10 - Glissando may mean going from point 1 to 10 Portamento may mean going from point 1 to 5 back to 1 and then to 10. Hope I make sense :) Hope I am right :)
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You are right. A Glissando carries the note from one note to another. A Portamento glides but not necessarily the entire distance from one to another. A continuous Portamento would be the same as a glissando. I guess I am really not that clear on that video. LOL
Fiddlerman I just heard the term on a quiz show as to what was meant by Glissando, Crescendo and Dimuendo so thought I would look these things up :)
you make short, concise, and clear tutorials as how everyone needs! thanks for these contents!
You are the teacher I have been looking for for years. You have the Nack of making something difficult look much easier and within reach for us meer begginers. Thank You.
As a native Spanish speaker clearly attuned to Italian I find your first pronunciation of the word "glissando" so perfect, I had to comment!
Thanks so much CubanBach.... It's fun to have a few positive feedbacks. 😁
You are an amazing violinist, Pierre. I love your rich, personalized sound. And I enjoy these brief, pedagogical vignettes where you beautifully demonstrate the concepts. Two thumbs up from me!
Thank you so much Alex. :) I appreciate it!
Didn't know Mel Gibson played violin! :)
***** Now you know. ;)
@@Fiddlershop no he doesn't
@@Masties518 r\wooosh
Oh please! That racist, anti-semite, bigot, and all around bad drunk? Ewwww!
Isn't it amazing how alcohol becomes people's, especially celebritie's, "tell all, air our dirty laundry for everyone to hear," elixer? It's always a disappointment when a celeb falls from grace. We saw Mel in movies that made people want to fall in love with him, like What Women Want, Signs, etc,,, then,,, he ties one too many on, and gets arrested for DUI, makes anti-semetic comments, then goes on a flippin talk show and rants about the Jews. Now I'll admit the unscrupulous cop that recorded Gibson's drunken tirade, and made it public for profit and got no reprimand for it, was wrong for doing what he did, but it did inform us as to Mel's true feelings. After Mel came Shia Labeouf, not just ranting about Jews, but about African Americans and Homosexuals too. Looks like celebs would avoid alcohol, if they value their careers, and career making roles.
@@FredtheDorfDorfman1985 chill the hell out bruv its just a comment
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Thanks so much for watching and for the nice words.
You just go to the point not too much talking, neat and precise . Thank you very much.
Thank you so much bibos. :) I appreciate the kind words.
Not really sure anymore. LOL
Portamento actually means to carry the note. So carry the note from one note to another. Glissando means to slide. This would technically be the same thing as Portamento but maybe Glissando is more slide and Portamento can be anything that transfers the note from one to another. Confusing right????
I have just discovered what a "Portamento" in a VST and because of your video I now concretely understand how this sound is produce! Also it's the coolest sound ever in my opinion !!!!! x)
Nice :)
You are always good clear direct... Best teacher.
Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
I don't even play violin anymore, sometimes I just watch your videos because I like the way they sound. =)
gBaldaconi Thanks :)
I'm not much of a violinist, but, in music in general (not specifically
violin music), glissando (or gliss) and portamento are confusing words
that you might hear more than one possible set definitions for. The
difference between the two that I've most commonly heard is that a portamento is when you slide smoothly from one pitch to another(passing momentarily through every theoretically possible pitch between them), while a glissando is when you play every note in-between (either chromatically (all notes on a piano) or in a diatonically (only notes in a scale, like all the white keys on a piano)) discretely. The latter is easier (or the only one possible) on many instruments, but I imagine it is more difficult on violin. It is also interesting to to note that I've mostly only seen/heard of the word portamento online. When trombone players get portamentos it is written "gliss.", and that's what we call it when we sing large ones (in choir, etc.). So, in my experience, when people refer to glissandos they mean what I called a portamento (a smooth slide between notes). However, it's also written "gliss." in piano and xylophone music, where it clearly refers to a discrete glissando. Saxophones, trumpets, clarinets, etc. also play a variety of pitch bends, such as "falls", and I think "scoops", "slides" and "glisses", but I'm not an expert on what their music says or what they actually call them (I might be misremembering.) Wind players also play "rips" or discrete glissandos. If you look at the Wikipedia page for portamento (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portamento), it focuses on the singing technique of sliding between notes in a melody, much how Fiddlerman uses the term. While you're on wikipedia, if you look up glissando (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glissando), you'll see it explores this terminology confusion. If you didn't see, in his reply to Kurt Johnson, Fiddlerman clarifies (I think) that what he meant in the video is that a glissando is any continuous pitch slide, and a portamento is any time you connect notes using a glissando, (no matter what speed(s) the glissando is at).
Yes, as a pianist I stumbled a bit learning about the two in the context of strings. I will say that portamento seems to be more of a technical necessity when it comes to the strings. Whereas either a discrete or blurred/ non-discrete glissando is fully intended for enhancing expression, portamento seems to be more a technical necessity as the player connects distant notes. In order to finger far away notes a player would inevitably slide their (second) finger to the new location, resulting in the expressiveness of a glissando. I've seen that the "new-finger" method is more so used for portamento, and not so much the old-finger method (though glissando can use either method). So if the new finger "belongs" to the note you wanna get at, sliding it up the fingerboard (as opposed to the old finger) would support the theory that portamento is more so a necessity. It also seems that portamento can sometimes be done at the discretion of a player, but a composer can still instruct it.
And, as has been said in the video, portamento is a bit more abrupt, with not as much expressive quality as the glissando.
Forgot to answer your question on the wood type. It's made of Spruce on the top and Maple on the bottom. :-)
thank you man, I'm in an orchestration class (with no previous experience) and this really helps me with aurally identifying these different techniques. Im sure ill be back!
You're very welcome. See you around!
so how's it going now
@krishnaisindahouse - It looks like that from the front angle and also because I am up on the G string past the body of the instrument. You see the hand has to come around the violin body for the fingers to reach. If I had filmed it from the side instead of straight on you would have seen that most of the movement is back and forth. Also if you notice I am not holding the violin very much with my chin. If I clamp down a bit more the violin would be steady.
It looks like around 1:46, you are using arm vibrato and then wrist vibrato around 1:54, that is if I am recognizing them correctly. I’m still learning vibrato and curious to know if you alternate for specific effects or just personal preference.
Yes, exactly. For me, I use more arm vibrato when I want a bigger/wider vibrato for romantic playing and a bit more wrist when I want a faster more classical vibrato. However, I mix them, combine them and change them according to the sound I want to get. Eventually it might come naturally for you. Thanks for watching.
Anytime you slide you are doing a glissando. Even a portamento is a glissando. With a portamento, you slide from one note to another.
So glissando is more of an umbrella term, portamento being a type of glissando?
@@happyhello5525 we can say that
What piece was mentioned at 0:52? I've heard it before but didn't know the name, or composer.
Thanks!
Csárdás, or Czardas by Vittorio Monti.
Thank you so much for making this video. It helped me a lot
+JustNicole You're very welcome. Thanks for letting me know.
Maple bottom and Spruce top are standard and what has proven to have the best overall results. Many makers have tried other combinations and some with fairly good results. You can even find great carbon fiber violins. 4/4 = full size, is by far the best sounding and one usually doesn't play a smaller instrument unless you are very small and can't handle a full size fiddle.
I love your phrasing. So nice.
Thank you so much!!!
Which one is more exaggerated, portamento or glissando?
Actually the two terms are very much interchangeable but I would vote for glissando. With a portamento, you carry the note from one tone to another but not necessarily the whole way whereas a glissando is a glide from one pitch to another. I would pick a portamento as being more musical but it doesn't need to be so big.
I want to know the songs you used for demonstrations in this. They sound beautiful .
Kaiser-Walzer, Op. 437 (Emperor Waltz) by Johann Strauss, Csárdás by Vittorio Monti
Thanks for watching!!!
Awesome video - straight to the point and informative. Respect!
Thanks. You play?
You are very welcome AuZonez. :-)
Thanks for your kind words.
Your a great teacher, wish you lived near me in England, teachers here are too high brow, I like your down to earth approach.
Thanks. No reason to be stuck up. I respect all people who attempt to learn to play the violin. Thank for your kind words. :)
Outstanding explanation as always.!
Thanks Metin, you are too kind. 😁
Super confusing.
+Jamien Liston Sorry!
@@1stfiddlerman Not confusing at all !
@@missionlinguistiquefrancop6356 Thanks. I kind of confuse my self as well. LOL
Portamento
@ 4/4 C-D legato (major second), half notes: C is crotchet (quarter note) plus seven demisemiquaver and just before full half one demisemiquaver is raised to D. D is full half note.
Glissndo
A violin continuous glide on any interval. On winds needs a cord and than is played as light touch of natural harmonics within that interval.
@MultiBlastProduction - Csárdás (or Czardas) by Vittorio Monti.
Can you tell me the names of the music and who it was by? I would love to play those or If you have the sheet music could you give it to me? Also what does a portamento look like in music? is it a scwiggly line connecting two notes or a straight line connecting two notes
I know this is a bit late to respond but I will explain anyway. Portamento is usually not written in the music. It is a technique that is often used as a necessity to bring out the melody line. Also, you can use portamento when there are two notes tied by a slur. However, it can be often get mixed up with glissando. The first music is called 'Emperor's Waltz by Johann Strauss and the second is the popular violin solo 'Czardas' by Vittorio Monti.
Kaiser-Walzer, Op. 437 (Emperor Waltz) by Johann Strauss, Csárdás by Vittorio Monti.
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So it's like doing a slide on the guitar only while bowing?
Absolutely beautiful! What a gift!
I use D'Addario's Artcraft rosin now. Previously I was using Andrea Solo Rosin. I have completely switched over to Zyex and can't imagine ever changing again. Used to use Obligato, Eva Pirazzi, and Dominant. For my violin the Zyex strings are far superior plus they break in very quickly.
Thank you so much Fiddlerman. I'm working on the Czardas now... but man oh man does my Ming wolf on the Bb (and the A isn't all that good either). Do you have any videos on technique to eliminate wolf notes? Thanks again.
Actually I don't. But vibrato is great for eliminating wolf tones since you cover a broader area of the tone. Sometimes it helps to press harder with the bow hand as well.
Where are you located? Our shop might be able to solve that for you.
@@1stfiddlerman Thanks Fiddlerman! I'll try both more vibrato and more pressure. I'm in Nashville. I got my Coda Bow from you!
@@prunetoe I might have other solutions. We are going to have a Facebook live event on the subject in a few weeks. Probably on Mar 22nd at 4-4:30 PM.
@@1stfiddlerman Awesome! Thank you. I'll be tuning in for sure.
@@prunetoe Thanks. See you then!
Excellent little master class! Thank you!
i love that rich sliding sound.
:)
Hey Fiddler Man, can I get the name of that elevated shoulder rest you used in the video please! I 'd love to get one just like it
I actually don't use a shoulder-rest, except for that rubber red round pad. I have a custom raised high Stuber chin-rest which may be what you are referring to. I had my luthier, many years ago, do that for me.
how do you avoid violin bounce during vibrato? i can see your violin is shaking but the bow is unaffected
Do you have a video of how to put weight into the bow, I have heard it dramatically effects the tone quality and have tried to find a simple instruction video on the subject, thanks for all the free vids and taking the time to do them .
I think it is best to watch and listen to violin maestros do this. It not only dramatically affects the tone, but it also changes the dynamics and style of music.
What are the songs that you are playing to demonstrate these techniques?
you play so beautifully. thanks for this info :-)
So, what's the difference between a glissando and a slide then? I see both in notation programs like Finale.
It's the same thing. I know that I'm confusing in that video. There is a slight difference with a Portamento but a portamento includes a "slide". Just that you don't keep it continuous from one note to the other.
@@1stfiddlerman Thanks for your response. As a person who does a lot of music notation, is there a place where you would use one symbol over the other? It seems that a glissando would probably be better for classically trained musicians, whereas a slide would be better for pop and rock musicians who are guitarists and electric bass players. Correct me if I wrong here.
@@boogybass I would generally not even write glissando or slide, rather use the straight or squiggly line from one note to the other. I agree that glissando works better in classical music. It's kind of that way we use a lot of Italian as well in notation.
I'm transcribing "The Devel Went Down to Georgia" from Violin to Viola, and I was wondering what's the name for that part at the begining that sounds like a mix of glissando and tremelo? It's right after the scale-ish part at the begining.
Could you please find the time line in the video and send me a link. I'm not sure what you mean.
Beautiful tunes you've played! I'm gonna look for that Emperor's March... On the other hand, I didn't understand quite well. I believe glissando is the equivalent to a slide on a guitar for example. To slide up or down on a string, sounding those two notes and the inbetweeners on a row. But portamento I don't catch it, I just think it was too fast. I got this concept: Portamento is used between two notes -adjacent or not-, on a single string, changing pitch so (I don't know what to put here... So fast, so smooth, so unnoticeable?) that it almost sound like no change has happened. O.o So I'm confused!
What do you mean by "but not connect the two notes"?
But... what is different betweeon runs and Glissando,Portamento???
Actually almost none. A Portamento includes a glissando but doesn't deliberately connect one note to another. It might start on the note, slide, then without traveling the whole way, end and play the next note. Or start a gliss just before the intended note you're landing on. Kind of an ornament that can be short, fast, small, but not deliberately from one note to another like a glissando.
@@1stfiddlerman thx, teacher!!
@j2musicstar - Thank you :-)
Ya. How did you guess :-) I started using Final Cut but my processor is way too slow.
Tu eres grandioso.. Gracias por compartir este video de glissando very good.!
I cannot tell the difference :/
Glissando is when you slide all the way. Portamento is when you start sliding, then end up shifting to the next note - like half gliss, half bend :)
Like Vius said though a Portamento is actually a Glissando but not all Glissandos are Portamentos.
Oh right, that's a better way of putting it.
Not better. I just added something. Your explanation was perfect. I was so unclear in my video that I didn't understand what I was saying myself. LOL
If you can't see the difference then the violin is not your instrument.
What if I have to glissando from open D string to 5 lines above the staff in one beat (83bpm)? It seems impossible, at least to do it like the original artist (Lindsey Stirling - Beyond the Veil).
Not if you know where to land. Find the note first and memorize your ending point. Then practice your glissando in beat. Start slowly and increase the tempo. I'm doing Q&A's but haven't received many. My only requirement is that you ask on a video and send me the video so that I can use it on my tutorial. You're welcome to submit one to me if you want some more help with that glissando.
Great ! Simply great !
What is the name of the song at 0:51?
Csardas
What song was it that he was playing to demonstrate us in the beginning and could you tell me where to find it because I search up emperors march and star wars comes up
Emperor Waltz Op. 437 by Strauss.
@@1stfiddlerman thanks
I googled Emperor's March and couldn't find any such song. Can you tell me who wrote the song/where it comes from?
I'm so sorry that I said March. I should have said Waltz.
Kaiser-Walzer, Op. 437 is also known as Emperor Waltz, a waltz composed by Johann Strauss II in 1889.
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awesome but why do you jerk your left hand sideways while using vibrato sometimes?
What would glissando in 5ths sound like?
Pretty cool. :)
awesome explanation, just wat I was looking for. eager to implement these techniques in my production.
I'm happy that you liked it. Thanks for watching
Great violinist! Would you mind posting a video of you playing Partita No.2 in Dminor (Allemande) that has a lot of places where you can use glissando but i see people use it way to intense and it takes away the true value of the song and i think it would be cool to see how you interpret it.
love the faces you make when you play om your violin. ^^
how would you go about doing this across different strings or should i just shift?
You can't do it without it being audible. You need to be fast and it has it's own effect. I recommend you starting on the lowest strings and moving up till you get to the target note. Or vise versa.
Okay, thank you so much.
glissando comes from italian word glissando.
Anyway, good video! Thank you!
Which comes from the French _glissant_ like he said :P Personally, I find etymology useful when learning what something means
No, Lord Mardolo : Fiddlerman is right. "Glissando" does come from French, and was "italianized" several centuries ago, when Italian was THE language of music. Exactly as the French verb "swinger" (to swing) was borrowed to English vocabulary by jazz musicians a hundred years ago. But it still remains an English word adopted by the French.
I love your tone, man! (I'm sorry, I'm primarily a hard rock guitarist, and I don't know the correct terms. Not that I can't know because I'm that kind of guitarist, but we just seem to have our own lingo. Hahaha)
Thanks so much brother. "Your tone" is perfect lingo IMAO. :) Thanks so much for watching.
Haha thanks. You can certainly play well. I was in a hurry and wanted the laymans answer! I feel like glissando is featuring the 'slide' and portamento is about connecting the notes so they're not staccato.
+Jamien Liston Truth is that in the business we refer to sides, glissandos and portamentos interchangeably and incorrectly all the time. A portamento simply connects notes together but doesn't mean that you must slide from start to finish. A portamento can be done in any way you like. You can start a slide and end the connection with a different finger or start a note and end the connecting note with a slide. :)
I know, still confusing (face palm)
A glissando is chromatic and a Portamento is more of a slide, especially in singing. Glissando you hear semitones, sometimes even microtones. A portamento is a slide, usually between a smaller interval.
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wich is the concerto that you mention there ? i would like to know thanks
Great clarification! Thanks :)
Thanks
Friend. i want to ask you about a technique often used in irish folk which is a third harmony on two slided strings. what is the name of that expression?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on these videos
I'm not sure if you'll anser, but can you tell me the names of the songs you played and their composers? Thanks
The first one is by Johann Strauss, Emperor Waltz - Kaiser Walzer, Op. 437 and the second Monti's Czardas.
Fiddlerman Thank you.... I am composing a piece with a Romani sound... being a bassoonist, I do not know how to notate some of the nuances that I would like to hear. Looking at these examples will help!
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Happy to hear it. :)
Thank you so much, very helpful
So glissando is basically a "cutted"/not completed portamento, right?
I'm sorry for not being very clear. A glissando is any note which is carried from one tone to another. There are different types of glissandos such as a portamento which may start from the written note and not end with it or the opposite, start between notes and end on the written note. A continuous glissando would be from the written note and ending on the written note.
I'm not fm, but for me, i use dark rosin in every climate I'm in, it;s much more richer, more softer, it grips my strings well, and it does not often leave rosin dusts on my fingerboard...if you want a smooth sound, you probably need more rosin....or probably less rosin, for me, i don't use much rosin, a little rosin does the smooth bowin' for me :)
Thank you for sharing such information.
Thanks for watching.
what song is this, it sounds gorgeous
Kaiser-Walzer, Op. 437 (Emperor Waltz) by Johann Strauss, Csárdás by Vittorio Monti
for those who aim to clarify:
glissando is simply the sliding
portamento is the sliding from one note to another
I never wrote a scrip for any video and it shows. LOL
I rarely listen to a video after I have posted it but sometimes when I do, I really wonder how I could have said something and how the heck did I actually post the darn video. ROFL
I'm dying to know what's the name of the example you used in 00:50 : the beginning of ..?
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Kaiser-Walzer, Op. 437 (Emperor Waltz) by Johann Strauss and later, Csárdás by Vittorio Monti
I disagree about the light rosin being better for humid climates. There aren't many more humid climates than Florida where I live and I prefer by far dark rosin. It gives a better connection. Light rosin can glide over the strings too easily for me at times.
Hey , master , I have this music sheet with a remark written as : en glissant , it means glissando , right ?
Actually , it is the famous music sheet of Zigeunerweisen , the part with "en glissant" sounds like your finger is positioned at each note for a very short time instead of gliding all the way to another lower note.
I'm confused with this remark ,should I put my finger at each note and move it quickly or just glide ?
Yes it does. But it's more like, in a glissando way. What you do is glide one finger in a pulsating way, kind of stopping on all those notes. Try a fast vibrato allowing the hand to slip on the way down. I know the spot that you are referring to. That is the best way I can explain it.
Good luck with it. 😁
@@1stfiddlerman Thank you , I'll try it.
@@halseywalker5015 Let me know how it goes. :)
What is the difference between glissando and portamento?
In my opinion, the portamento is less obvious than a glissando. Portamento is more discrete and might just carry the tone at the very end. A glissando is more obvious. Truthfully though, they are very much interchangeable and mean basically the same thing. Portamento carries the pitch from one not to another and a glissando is a glide from one note to another.
we got glizzies in music too... rad!
Yep. :)
can it apply on drum?
I suppose if you can adjust the tension of the drum while playing. :) Maybe even with an electric drum kit. Who knows. lol
What if it's just an extremely fast scale is it still a glissando? or just a fast scale.
Hear me out, the reason I say this is because on the piano you can play an extremely fast scale with your fingers but it won't be considered a glissando, but when you use the back of your fingers to play a fast scale then it is considered a glissando.
To be fair, yes piano and violin are completely different instruments. But it'll be interesting to distinguish exactly what is considered a glissando on violin because of the nature of the instrument it seems confusing to me.
I have still not understood, what the different between glissando and poramento is
You are awesome man! :)
Thank you :)
It shouldn't matter whether it's up or down, surely! Regardless of your years spent in Swedish orchestras, your definition is very confusing. I would refer you to the opening clarinet figure in Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue. The clarinet does a run up playing individual notes fast, aka a glissando, then changes to go seemlessly up the scale without fingering or indicating the notes, to arrive at a final note. That, then, to me is portamento. You don't seem to differentiate clearly between the two. A harp or piano is I believe technically unable to do portamento; trombonists spend all their time trying to avoid it. Is that ok? I wonder what Gershwin's notation is.
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Very nice sir
Thank you so much.
There is a great deal of confusion on this topic. Part of the confusion comes from hundreds of years of bad translations. However, glissando and portamento have nothing to do with whether they are played before or after the PRINCIPAL notes. Glissandi, in piano music, are sometimes written. Portamento, from what a teacher has told me, is similar to portato, or half-staccato.
Michael Gfroerer I agree that I am very unclear but a portamento is a pitch being carried from one note to another and I was trying to say that the difference between a glissando and portamento would be that if a note begins or ends on the principle note it would be called a portamento, though technically it's a glissando too. I strongly disagree that a Portamento is anything like a Portato. With a Portato there isn't a glissando but a connection without much separation. You connect notes (slur them) while giving a new articulation on the next note.
+Fiddlerman You also can't make french fries with a portamento.
muito boa sua explicação.!!!
Thanks Steve. That is a great compliment. :-)
Awesome thanks!
You are very welcome. Sorry if it's confusing.
The first one is the Emperor Waltz by Strauss. Then Monti's Czardas
man i love this
Very helpful..thank u
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
Thank you very much !!!
+Sherani Vanburen You are very welcome. Did it help?
+Fiddlerman Yeahh a lot , This video was really helpful for my lesson on string instrument techniques ... Thanks a lot!!!! :D :D
+Fiddlerman Between you have explained the difference between glissando and portamento very clearly in the video and the description
Thanks, this is one of the lessons in which I don't know what I was saying. LOL
Just turn on the video and talk without thought. LOL
Good luck with your progress!!!