Paul Mickelson plays the CONN CLASSIC organ 1950's ELECTRONIC ORGAN

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • So many of these great Conn organs sit not played . Better than digital by far! Paul Mickelson proves it on this record. Currently the one pictured around the start in this video is for sale in Dayton on Columbus Ohio Clist for peanuts! This is not the reason for the video, I love to play the organ and want to share the great artists and their recordings of the best organs that money can buy- the ANALOG ELECTRONIC ORGAN. Save one today! Easy to repair and will last several generations with simple electrolytic capacitor changes every 25-35 years. The tone generation is pure, the electrons come alive! Digital organs are like mankind trying to create life...only an imitation, but I'd say in another 10 years they just might get it- making digital just as tempermentally beautiful as analog that is. At least with Miditzer and Hauptwerk we can keep up on the progress for little to no monetary investment, but hey' these real vintage, and REAL analog organs are also little to nothing these days, plus they look better! Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty, get a soldering iron, turn on your left brain for a minute and look up how to do simple repairs on these treasures. Conn organs are among the best if not THE best. I have many organs of many makes- Wurlitzer, Hammond,Thomas, Gulbranen, and 2 Conn models now- a 1957 model 406, and a 1968 model 543. The 406 is a small spinet and is a tube individual oscillator organ like what Paul Mickelson is playing on this recording except Paul is playing a full size console organ and my little 406 is even smaller than the average spinet organ with it's 36 keys instead of the standard 42 keys per manual. The console organs have 61 keys on two manuals and 25 or 32 pedals. A bonafide classical organ at AGO specs will have 32 pedals. Paul Mickelson is playing a Conn Classic model 800 to 821... the 825's were transistorized. It is very hard to beat a Conn Classic for classical and a Conn tube model 645 for Theater. In fact listen to Don Baker 'Rise n' Shine' and 'Curtain Time' to compare the classical with the theater. Also listen to 'John Gart Conn organ Marches' to hear yet another great Conn tube organ. Get you one from 55' to 65' and clean the contacts and she'll play just fine. Oh' and be sure you adjust the contacts for the tabs. Often an organ that sounds in horrible repair can be brought back to like new just by cleaning the key and tab contacts.-Paul

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  • @johnferguson8993
    @johnferguson8993 8 лет назад +2

    A great site. I too am a Conn organ lover from way back and have owned many models. I currently play a mint condition 650 in my church and what a fantastic instrument. Everyone loves it and it's reliable. I was a foundation member of the Conn Organ Club here in Victoria, Australia.

  • @markwatkins7175
    @markwatkins7175 8 лет назад +5

    It's a Conn. It sounds like a Conn. I grew up with a Conn Artist 720, then owned one years later. A great practice instrument....but as far as sounding "better than digital by far", I cannot agree...if we're talking about a sound that can approach pipe-like tone quality. That said....I still enjoy playing and hearing analog electronic instruments, but certainly don't expect a true pipe-like sound, except maybe from the flutes. (In spite of my critical remarks, this is still a COOL recording by a talented and creative organist. Thank you for posting...it brought back some fond memories.)

  • @mistertentpole
    @mistertentpole 9 лет назад +1

    The description is the most epic thing I've read about organs, ever. I applaud your enthusiasm. It's catchy.

  • @yamaho5
    @yamaho5 7 лет назад

    In 1956 Paul came to Oklahoma City to play for a month long Billy Graham revival, and after the service he, Tedd Smith, Bev Shea, and Cliff Barrows would come to the restaurant where I player the organ in the evenings, and when I took a break, I went over and introduced myself. I became friends with all of them during that month, and Paul particularly guided me into the purchase of a Conn 710 Artist model. We remained good friends until his passing. The last time I saw him he came up to me as I was demonstrating the Rodgers W-5000 organ at the Winter NAMM in Anaheim, Ca. and he told me about his acquisition of several pipe organs. He was a warm kind gentleman, and I think of him often. Tedd Smith is the pianist for Billy Graham, and he is my favorite of all the gospel piano players and he is still playing. Hi Tedd.

  • @ellietrotta8626
    @ellietrotta8626 5 лет назад

    This is fantastic. Aw I miss Paul. He was a dear family friend and sadly passed away in 2001 or 2002. I have some recordings of him and Jerry Ray playing duets on the organ and piano. Back when I was a kid, he was just “Paul” and I knew he was a good organist but I never fully appreciated his talent until I got older. Thank you for posting this video.

  • @HD7100
    @HD7100 13 лет назад +2

    Possibly this organ was a model 800 which had three vacuum tube tone generators in it that produced multiple wave forms depending on where you took the output from. It was a great instrument but it had no unification. The oscillators were keyed on when a key was pressed and all the stops were 8'. The right of each keyboard had the couplers including mutations. You could not combine a 4' flute tone with an 8' reed tone but it was a very good organ. Coupling the manuals gave you a celeste.

    • @davidcarson4421
      @davidcarson4421 6 месяцев назад

      I had a Conn (don’t remember model) with a two-channel Leslie. Strings had separate output from organ and played through separate Leslie power amp and stationary speakers. There were rocker switches for coupling. After 25 or 30 years, I sold everything for $300. I now regret this decision.

  • @markchwala2913
    @markchwala2913 5 лет назад

    I really appreciate this post. As a young man growing up I used to listen to my moms religious albums.She worked in a music store that sold Hammond organs and often demonstrated them to prospective customers. Getting back to Paul Mickelson, I have his album Best Loved Hymns that was my moms, I treasure it. also Don Hustad and Tedd Smiths album to God be the Glory, Lew Charles and I discovered Les Barnett. Each organist has their own style and I appreciate them all individually. Oh yes, I really miss the sound of the Hammond B3 in the sanctuary of our Nazarene church when the prelude was played on Sunday morning before service! Paul Mickelson knew how to use the full potential of this Conn Organ I believe as I felt it in these recordings!

  • @oldbigshoe
    @oldbigshoe 8 лет назад

    I just purchased a Conn 720 Artist model in mint condition for a ridiculously low price and it was in perfect tune and sounds great!

    • @patsaxon5284
      @patsaxon5284 5 лет назад

      That is because there is no market for electronic organs, they are just giving them away for free as no one wants them.

  • @kellyb.mcdonald1863
    @kellyb.mcdonald1863 2 года назад

    He has to be a Master of Master's, or a Teacher of Teacher's I've listened to Paul for the last 3 days now, and he knows what to do, and when to do it. I listen to Klaus Schulze, Plant43, Morphogenetic Field Music, Polymorphic Music, Amorphic Fields Therein by Dorit Chrysler Music, PolyChromatic music by Dolores Catherino, and now Paul Mickelson!!! and Yes, One Million Other People As Well!!! I just do music, Stardust Cowboy!!! Born To Be Wild, Deep Purple, these are merely a few Singer's amd Artist's I enjoy!!! Kelly does music, period. You'd be shocked if you had the amount, the sheer volume of music I digest, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, year after year, after year, and this has been going on for 8 years, 2 years ago I went to the record store, and came home with (I think) 138 movie soundtracks and in less that 2 weeks I had listened to everyone of them and then began repeating them all!!! I paid and I can't imagine it ever stopping, I am a total connoisseur of music, and it is my heart's call. I never heard of him, not until I discovered him 3 days ago,

  • @pedritoortiz5017
    @pedritoortiz5017 7 лет назад +4

    I don't understand why people would try to compare analog electronic organs to pipe organs. They're completely different and unique in their own way, there's just no point in trying to compare them both. Two completely different worlds, well that's how I see it.

    • @williamklimas7515
      @williamklimas7515 6 лет назад +1

      William Klimas
      1 second ago
      I have heard and played many of the great pipe organs of the world, and I still enjoy some analogue organ sounds. If I try to equate it to a great pipe organ, it falls far short, of course. But if I let it be what it is, I can appreciate it.

    • @ricktomlinson5481
      @ricktomlinson5481 5 лет назад +1

      The reason people make the comparison is because when the electronic tone generator (which works of of a common 60 cycle hum) was discovered and placed into production it was advertised and sold as an electronic ORGAN. So even to this day though very different instruments the comparison is made! And I hasten to add the industry continues to make the electronic sound like the real pipe. And a damn good job they are doing too in some cases.!

  • @benjaminmarota8203
    @benjaminmarota8203 6 лет назад

    Beautiful

  • @sethdaily2811
    @sethdaily2811 8 лет назад

    If you play the first song on a home theater, it roars!!

  • @mariocaceres2248
    @mariocaceres2248 4 года назад

    Espectacular!!!

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  10 лет назад

    I have finally struck up a deal for a nice blonde Conn Classic 815. It has a pair of black utility 15"s and a pair black utility of 2-10" ( EDIT: I THOUGHT IT WAS 4 CABINETS, BUT IT'S 2 CABINETS WITH A 15" and 2 10" in the same cabinet. Anyway, I got the Approx. 1959 CONN CLASSIC 815 this past Sunday. It cleaned up very nicely and have put pictures on the Organ Forum. It will be easy to find, as it is the ONLY CONN model 815 CLASSIC known on the internet. It's serial # is 800029. Since the series is the 800 series all 800,810,820,821,825,and 830 begin with 800 this would make this the 29th 815 Classic made. The 800, 810, 820, 825, and 830 are all more common. The 815 has CELESTE, which is an 810 feature[ edit: actually the CELESTE was an option on the 810 and was standard on the 820, but my 815 has it], and the preamp has 2-in/ 2-out + a 3rd channel out for pedals, which is an 810-819 feature according to the service manual. The pre-800 series didn't have CELESTE tabs on the far right ( last two isolated tabs), but had ECHO and MAIN tabs instead. [ again, was an option on the 810 and standard on the 820, the 820 introduced a 3rd pedal for CRESCENDO ]. My 815 has full KLANN TRIPPER TYPE COMBINATION ACTION, which is a very gentle, quick, and quiet electromechanical method for rotating the bus bars in front of the appropriate 'whiskers' below the keys when the corresponding tab is chosen. Often organs would have the bus bar rocker type tabs on placed at the end of the keyboard and employ mechanical linkage to the bus bars. It works, but tabs in that position are inconvenient and also it makes it impossible to employ presets. With combination action you can trigger the action of the bus bar rotation with electric and therefor can build a simple method for creating presets. Ironically the 800-819 has no presets at all. I intend to remedy this quite simply by using a simple modern circuit using SCR's and a scanner type of memory head mounted under the key desk. The 830 Classic had a huge draw that pulls out and has dozens of switches allowing user selected combinations of tabs ( aka presets). They literally had to have a switch for each tab X the number of preset buttons on the organ face.
    Am glad to have such a rare model. I've been wanting a Conn Classic for a very long time. It predates the Conn Electronic Theater Organs by several years. And if you look at the tabs on a 640 theater organ ( the first Conn model, and one of the best) it has identical tabs as my 815 Classic ( except the 640 has 2 2/3 on the lower manual as well). I have a manual for my organ, but would like to get the 640 manual to see what subtle differences there might be in filtering, etc. Obviously the 640's built in Leslie immediately throws into theater mode, but I have my 815 hooked to Leslie's and stationary cabinets already. Sounds theater enough to me:) The CELESTE isn't working though. Must be the capacitors on the circuit. There is a small transformer too, but sure it's okay since the Celeste worked when I first got it. If anyone has an idea what's up with it I'd appreciate some input. At any rate, in the 50's people played theater organ on straight cabinet classical organs with Leslie tone cabinets. When it's all said and done this is perfectly acceptable considering the Classical organs have the same Tibia (flute),Strings,Reed ( inc. horns), and Diapason. George Wright played theater styles just fine on the 53' Classic 800 just fine for his record- (click)-
    ruclips.net/video/8AOswtr59l0/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/L06vS6WRbIE/видео.html (an 800 Classic pictured on back of record).

  • @raquelgoncalves5180
    @raquelgoncalves5180 Год назад

    Som dos anjos 🙌

  • @AustinLeeds
    @AustinLeeds 12 лет назад

    I'd love to see one of these big old Conns... I have a 1959 Conn Caprice Deluxe (Model 427M) that I love to process with my iPad for some trippy/spacey tunes...

  • @MusicFan0136
    @MusicFan0136 10 лет назад

    Oh wow. I must say I'm impressed with the sound!

  • @notmyworld44
    @notmyworld44 9 лет назад

    Well, Paul, I had read somewhere that you had passed away in 2001? Is there any way your orchestral albums can be purchased on CD? I have been an avid fan of your arrangements and recordings since hearing them regularly on KHCB-FM radio (Houston Texas) in the early 1960's. Such glorious treasures as these should be made available. I'm still wondering if you are indeed THAT Paul Mickelson! Thank you. I wish very much I had your email address, but can't expect you to post it here.

  • @Wurlitzer2ify
    @Wurlitzer2ify 13 лет назад

    You can get the keys from the parts place. Yes, the Conn Organs have a great sound. I don't understand why these same sounds can not be reproduced via the digital means. If Hammond Suzuki can do it with the Hammond to sound like the old B3s and other why not on some of our great sounding organs from the analog days?
    Thanks for posting, Paul. Baldwin II from the Organ Forum

  • @notmyworld44
    @notmyworld44 9 лет назад +1

    Is this the same Paul Mickelson who did the wonderful orchestral arrangements of hymns and praise songs?

  • @Wurlitzer2ify
    @Wurlitzer2ify 13 лет назад +1

    I wish someone with tube Conn Minuet would demonstrate the various stops. Also someone with a tube or transistor Conn Caprice that would do the same.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  11 лет назад

    final cont.
    If you find the Paul Mickelson Conn Classic video inferior to a pipe organ then that tells the tale right there, huh'? Many of us would love to sit at the set-up he played for this recording. I think digital is still a short way off from absolute capturing of the organs I mentioned. We are already in the process of capturing these great analog organs. The organ is the easy part, the cabinets are the hard part, but most players have good cabinets. The digitizing allows more organs:)

  • @Wurlitzer2ify
    @Wurlitzer2ify 13 лет назад

    I wish there was a stop list available for the organ.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  11 лет назад

    Not everyone has ears like those who have come to respect the subtleties of an analog organ that's all. It's affection does have merit believe me, I sit and play analog organs and am very inspired, but the right digital organs also inspire me. My point is not for people to start making analog organs again, for all intents and purposes the congregation wouldn't notice the difference. In fact digital addresses the bang for your buck 'hey that sounds nice' far more than keeping an analog going.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  12 лет назад

    That's like saying, ' you can only do so much with pipes'.
    Transistors allowed analog unlimited pipe voicing capabilities.
    There is a gray area that the organist/listener either embraces or rejects when it comes to the progression of electronic organ design and this is how 'electric' it sounds. An electronic organ that sounds entirely like pipes and is void of electronic elements in the tone is like a painting that looks so much like a photograph that the siganture of the artist is lost.

  • @michellefreeman3659
    @michellefreeman3659 4 года назад

    What is the name of the hymn he is playing? I remember our organist when I was a little girl he would play this as the Pastor would ascend to the pulpit on Sunday mornings I always thought it was majestic.

    • @txpipes61
      @txpipes61 4 года назад +2

      The hymn is "God of Our Father, Whose Almighty Hand" (National Hymn) - It was written in 1876 to commerate the 100th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. It is a truly American hymn.

    • @michellefreeman3659
      @michellefreeman3659 4 года назад

      E.S. Cumming thank you.

  • @HappyHauptwerk
    @HappyHauptwerk 11 лет назад +1

    My perspective is one of as a classical organist. If I had a choice of playing a analogue classical organ or a digital classical organ, I would take the digital organ every time. I use the Hauptwerk software system and it is a billion times better than any analogue or digital organ. Everything is there including the pipe nuances and action noise from REAL organs, not from tone libraries cobbled together to make an organ.

    • @patsaxon5284
      @patsaxon5284 5 лет назад

      Hauptwerk is based on digital wave sampling, as that is why it is better than analog generated. But as far as digital organs, nothing beats the digital sampling of an Allen organ.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  11 лет назад

    cont. Okay, so lets ignore the Conn Classic, Gulbransen Rialto K, Wurlitzer 4600, and a few others as being analog organs. Just look at them at face value, as 'organs'. They deserve to be captured digitally because they are great organs! They really are. Not for nostalgia's sake, but just because they are good sounding organs. It might not make sense to those who expect to hear a pipe. If you are one who has always found an analog organ inferior to a sampled pipe then they wouldn't be for you.

  • @Diapason16ft
    @Diapason16ft 2 года назад

    I bet this record helped sell a few Hammonds.

    • @paulj0557tonehead
      @paulj0557tonehead  2 года назад

      Sure, if you want all clarinet for liturgical and other broader orchestrated music. Listen to *Organ Moods - John Winters at the Mighty Wurlitzer*. It's actually a Conn Classic 810 or 820. Of course don't if you expect a Hammond. Not knocking Hammond, I have an X-66, and have had A100, L100, H182, M3's, and an RT2, but John Winters incredible nuanced playing wouldn't sound as good on one. Actually it would probably sound great, but like *Jesse Crawford Remembering w/ Ann Stockton Harp accompaniment* . I've uploaded both albums highlighted. Listen to *John Gart and the Minutemen- Organ On The March* for pretty convincing marching band tones...OBVIOOUSLY a novelty album. Heck I don't know what reply to a comment like that, I listen to Slayer and Amyl and the Sniffers.

    • @Diapason16ft
      @Diapason16ft 2 года назад

      @@paulj0557tonehead My observation regards the instrument. There were better sounding options yet in the early ‘50s. Everything except the flutes sound like amplified reeds. Conn sounded MUCH better by the next decade. I encountered one with what i think they called Cathedra-sonic Pipe System. Rather impressive installation in a US Army chapel.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  11 лет назад

    There is good reason why there are no analog electronic organs being manufactured. They are far too expensive to make and the world still has plenty of the extremely well built vintage Wurlitzer,Conn,Baldwin,Allen,Rodgers, etc. left to play. Digital organs can be built for a fraction of what an analog organ would cost to make, but it does not by any means indicate analog organs are inferior. I am in a minority preferring analog, but I am not alone on this. Fact is many organists don't hear tone!

  • @MultiOrganGrinder
    @MultiOrganGrinder 12 лет назад

    the digital ones don't have the leslies

  • @HappyHauptwerk
    @HappyHauptwerk 11 лет назад +1

    I'm sorry but as an organist who has had to play electronic analogue and digital organs there is nothing to convince me that analogue, any analogue organ is better than a digital one. If they were, there would be people still manufacturing them. The best thing one can do is to recycle and convert them with MIDI and Hauptwerk.

  • @elliot_sander
    @elliot_sander 4 года назад

    I’ve always thought Conns sound too much like a baseball game...

  • @flyerron
    @flyerron 8 лет назад

    where can I get this organ?

    • @paulj0557tonehead
      @paulj0557tonehead  8 лет назад

      +Dab Cubing and Entertainment I have 11 organs, but have collected over 20 just in the past 5-6 years. You MUST be diligent if you wish to find a particular organ, believe me. I have eventually found EVERY organ I have sought, including the " final organ I will seek" 1957 CONN CLASSIC 815 that you hear on this video. I have probably mentioned where and how I got the organ, within the other comments I've posted here, but in a nutshell, I was looking at Ebay one day and as I always look through the WURLITZER, HAMMOND, CONN, GULBRANSEN, BALDWIN, and THOMAS in particular, I happen to notice someone was selling the preamp from a Conn tube organ. I immediately noticed that it was not the AMP, but was the PREAMP so I wrote the seller and kindly told him he should list it as a 2-channel preamp and not a speaker driving tube amp. However after I sent him the email I noticed that he had the entire organ still and after another message telling him that I just realized that he was close to me in Ohio I asked if he'd sell me the whole organ and for how much. He said he hadn't removed anything from the organ and that I could have it for the same price as the preamp he was selling. WOW! It was 180 dollars! Then he told me he had two Conn utility speaker cabinets with a 15" and 2-10" speakers in each. He basically gave those to me as well for like another 25 dollars total for both! Then he said he'd deliver it all for another 100 dollars. So there it was, a great vintage WORKING Conn ALL TUBE INDIVIDUAL OSCILLATOR organ for 300 bucks to my door!
      If you read my comments in the various organ videos on youtube ( I have posted many complete organ albums as well, and this same organ can be heard on the album I posted- ORGANS ON THE MARCH - JOHN GART and the MINUTEMEN Conn organ & PERCUSSION.
      I absolutely am a hardcore fan of the vintage pre-1970 organs of the brands I mentioned above that I look for, and have owned over 23 I can count, but have 11 currently. I managed to find good homes for the other organs I've parted ways with. I was on a THOMAS organ kick for a couple of years, but there is not much ensemble with Thomas organs. Nonetheless they are excellent organs. I always tell people that if they are proficient piano players then the THOMAS organs are an excellent choice.
      At any rate, the CONN CLASSIC and CONN ARTIST ( 800's and 700's series respectively) are the all tube CONSOLE models and were produced as all-tube indv. osc. designs between 1953 and 1965. In around 1967 the CONN organs went to an all-transistor indv. osc. design. The transistor organs are tighter and crisper sounding compared to the tube models, which are bold and loose sounding. Ultimately when it comes to technical skill development the vacuum tube organs will win out as far as being able to accurately achieve a very desirable foundation of basic registers which can then be manipulated dynamically in real time. For example. Tonight I played an old Harry Warren song entitled 'Ooh' That Kiss'. The upper manual called for a TRUMPET. Although the lower manual actually has a TRUMPET tab, I was able to achieve a very good sounding trumpet by combining the 8' GEDECT ( soft flute) with an 8' OBOE. You can witness the majesty that can be derived from a straight forward vintage tube organ by listening to the ORGANS ON THE MARCH record. Then, to contrast this listen to ERIC LORD PLAYING IN THE STYLE OF JESSE CRAWFORD ( he is playing a CONN 580 3 manual all-transistor indv. osc. spinet organ.
      Listening to Eric on the 580 is exceellent, but honestly I have a better sound from my CONN CLASSIC 815 all-tube organ.
      Then listen to Eric again on this video- >>> Eric Lord Playing the Conn 652 electronic theatre organ in 1985

    • @ricktomlinson5481
      @ricktomlinson5481 7 лет назад

      In the city dump where it belongs !

  • @notmyworld44
    @notmyworld44 9 лет назад

    Paul, I refer you to this web-page which says you are no longer in the world of the living. So sorry. I would have loved to have gotten to know you.
    www.discogs.com/artist/406274-Paul-Mickelson

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead  13 лет назад

    @Wurlitzer2ify I just took a look at something people are doing in the guitar world. It's called 'Amplitube'. I watched someone playing around with this system. There are virtual Orange, Marshall, Fender, etc. etc. guitar amplifiers. Being someone who used to play his electric guitar through these REAL amplifiers...it was disappointing seeing all of these virtual amps...it was like playing by proxy. I would like to try the HOAX Hammond. Uses an FPGA. info[at]keyboardpartner[dot]d

  • @mak090974
    @mak090974 12 лет назад

    Sorry I still like my digital better. Paul Mickelson's a good organist but you can do only so much with vacuum tubes and oscillators.

  • @HappyHauptwerk
    @HappyHauptwerk 11 лет назад

    So why are you suggesting that these Conn organs should join the Hauptwerk platform then? I guess if you want to keep the integrity of these instruments, keep them off the platform!

  • @dank1280
    @dank1280 8 лет назад +2

    While I must admit the trumpet stop was nice, the rest of it just sounds too synthetic and percussive. Nothing will ever beat real pipes.

    • @paulj0557tonehead
      @paulj0557tonehead  8 лет назад

      +dank1280 Pipes are pipes and VACUUM TUBES, glorious vacuum tubes make a different tone. If all you get is "synthetic" aka SOMETHING TRYING TO IMITATE SOMETHING REAL, well then you've missed the point. ( listen to the ORGAN MOODS JOHN WINTERS ALBUM I posted to get a sense of how this exact same CONN 800 series organ played by two different players through big set-up (Paul) and smaller set-up ( John) can sound different. It's a VERY VERSATILE organ. Oh', and yes, John is playing a CONN CLASSIC 810 w/ a percussion/repeat percussion, NOT a "Mighty Wurlitzer" lol.
      A 3rd organist playing this exact organ through straight speakers ( no rotary that I can hear, or recall) is on another complete album I posted - ORGANS ON THE MARCH- JOHN GART & THE MINUTEMEN ( CONN CLASSIC ORGAN and the Minutemen play real percussion accompaniment)
      If you get " synthetic" out of this record it's hopeless:(
      That said, I wrote a bunch of stuff below, and it is NOT, repeat NOT in an effort to obliterate one organ type over another, it's simply to state much of what I have observed SUBJECTIVELY ( hence, please avoid a butting heads reply, because I'm not doing that).
      I've been around and around trying to convince pipe purists to open their ears to analog electricity based organs beyond their comparison to pipes, but to no avail. I've also tried to enlighten people to the fact that for the very reason so many of us love our ANALOG DISCRETE COMPONENT ELECTRONIC/ELECTROMAGNETIC/ELECTROSTATIC ORGANS is because of their ability to sound like themselves, not "in relation to the imitation of a pipe"!
      In fact, since the advent of the DIGITAL PIPE ORGAN aka the first, being the ALLEN COMPUTER ORGAN from 1971, all the way to HAUPTWERK DIGITAL VIRTUAL PIPE ORGANS of today that you can literally assign each true pipe sound which is meticulously sampled, to independent speakers. If done right the result is essentially a fabulous ( and I never use that word, but it's appropriate here) sounding pipe organ.
      EVEN with the opportunity to have an excellent facsimile of a real pipe organ in my own home, I still prefer ANALOG ELECTRONIC, ELECTROMAGNETIC, etc.NOT because of any comparison, but because DIGITAL IS SYNTHETIC in the worst possible sense of the word when it comes to it's failure to be TONALLY INTERACTIVE and TONALLY MANIPULATIVE BASED ON THE REAL ANALOG PURE AUDIO SIGNALS, BECAUSE DIGITAL HAS NO PURE AUDIO MANIPULATIVE SIGNAL, IT USES CIGITAL-TO-ANALOG CONVERTERS.
      So there is the irony. A FAKE REAL SOUNDING DIGITAL HAUPTWERK ORGAN sounds " great" to the ears of a pipe purist, yet the fact that it is digital, and these same people DON'T get, or DON'T LIKE ( or both) the richness of an ANALOG ELECTRICITY BASED TONE GENERATED ORGANS, as they are dismissed for their inability to sound like a real pipes to them, well that says it all..
      Listen to the exact same VACUUM TUBE INDIVIDUAL OSCILLATOR ( 166 of them!) 1953-1965 CONN CLASSIC 800-825 series organ played through minimal speakers and amplification, on the mis-titled record I posted in it's entirety- ORGAN MOODS JOHN WINTERS AT THE MIGHTY WURLITZER [ it's not a Wurlitzer, it's a Conn Classic vacuum tube orga].
      On this album John Winters doesn't play through what sounds like is one Leslie Speaker and maybe one or two CONN 159 to 259 series of stationary speakers and didn't push the envelop the way Mickelson did. My being an organ player with SEVERAL TYPES of analog organs ranging from pure electronic, or electromechanical-- which are electromagnetic ( Hammond tone wheel) and electrostatic ( Wurlitzer electrostatic reed), all of my organs evoke far more than a "synthetic" tone. I have a CONN CLASSIC 815 which is the exact same organ Paul Mickelson and John Winters plays on these albums. I can tell you that besides the marked difference between Paul and Johns sounds [ unless you are so much of a pipe purist that you can't get your ears around the rich musicality of these organ sounds].

    • @paulj0557tonehead
      @paulj0557tonehead  8 лет назад

      Aw' shit! I wrote a reply to a 'linked ' comment! Oh' well, the rest of you can maybe get something from what I wrote unless this video LINKS BACK???. Nothing worse than a purist of one medium popping in on a video with another medium which is NOT TRYING TO IMITATE their purist medium, but just being it's own instrument. Yet these same purists accept the notion of a lifeless FAKE SAMPLE of their 'real pipe. There is such a thing as ANALOG ELECTRIFIED " TONE HEAD WORTHY" TONE! So what is real here? Oh' that's right, pipes. Duh, but so are VACCUM TUBES, TRANSISTORS, TONE WHEELS, and ELECTROSTATIC REEDS:)

    • @NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx
      @NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx 7 лет назад

      I have always liked the Hammond tube/tone wheel organ sound,...and still do! Nothing beats a good tube organ. Being familiar mainly with Hammond,I used to have an A-100,and I miss it. Grew up around Hammond organs,...the church I go to now has one! The church I grew up in had a CV,..other churches I either visited or was a part of for a short time had Hammond,...except for two,..one had an analog Allen,and one had a Baldwin! Digital organs sound bland to me! Analog all the way,especially if tubes are involved! The CONN in this recording sounds quite nice!

  • @praestant8
    @praestant8 7 лет назад +1

    Clearly some analog organ worship here... I have yet to hear a pipe organ want to imitate an electronic, but the reality is an electronic is in fact trying to imitate pipes. Yes there are different flavors between analog and digital but they are both still attempting to imitate the same thing. Butter doesn't try to imitate margarine, now does it?

    • @ricktomlinson5481
      @ricktomlinson5481 7 лет назад +1

      well put ! i can"t stand the sound of electronic 'organs'! YUCK! Some of the newer stuff with sampling is good though. This recording is ghastly ! OMG ear torch-er !
      Tempo on most pieces - way too slow and piano touch all wrong for an organ! Sorry I can't buy into any of the above comments either that sing praise to this instrument or the 'organist' ! It's just not my style !

    • @paulj0557tonehead
      @paulj0557tonehead  5 лет назад

      @@ricktomlinson5481 So you're not a musician that is an analog electronic tone head! You are unfortunately offended by them. [@praestant8]So I'm guessing 'butter' is 'pipes', and 'margarine' is 'ANALOG electronic TONE GENERATED' organ? From my experience with owning and playing several ANALOG ELECTRONIC (discrete - electromagnetic,OR electrostatic,OR indv. transistor, OR vacuum tube), in every case I have been extremely impressed by these instruments BY CAREFULLY SELECTING A WIDE RANGE OF AMPLIFIERS- both vacuum tube and solid state. A variety of Tone cabinets, Leslie speakers, Wurlitzer BRASS HORNS- both TRUMPET BELL, and TROMBONE driven by quality horn drivers. Also a quality DIGITAL REVERB, BBE AURAL ENHANCER, DIGITAL DELAY, 2 INDEPENDENT 31 BAND EQ's, and a good TOA D4 mixer with stereo effects loop.
      Absolutely the wonderment of independent vacuum tube tone generated- " Hi I'm THIS KIND OF ORGAN... What's YOUR FLAVOR BABY?" organ, in the great CONN 800 SERIES is fully realized...not 'trying to be a buttery pipe organ', but a KICK ASS BRILLIANT MUSICALLY DYNAMIC...TUBE ORGAN THAT PLEASES THE MIND, BODY, AND SPIRIT...better than this poorly recorded one of Paul Michelson.
      DIGITAL ORGANS ARE PAINT BY NUMBER, BUT ACOUSTIC PIPE AND ANALOG ELECTRONIC ORGANS ARE AN INFINITELY TEXTURED...AND DRIVE LIKE YOUR FAVORITE COLLECTION OF AUTOMOBILES.

    • @ricktomlinson5481
      @ricktomlinson5481 5 лет назад +1

      Yes I am a musician which is exactly why i made my observations about the playing style. I don't need an explanation about analog this or that as it does not change my mind! BUT being a musician has nothing to do with the sound that these dinosaurs create. I don't usually care for the violin but love the cello. JUST MY OPINION! and as a health professional butter far better then crap margarine! Cheers! @@paulj0557tonehead

  • @MultiOrganGrinder
    @MultiOrganGrinder 12 лет назад

    i have no interest in digital organs and would rather play a hammond or other analog organ.i play a hammond c3 in a lutheran church