I think you forgot something what happened to the previous Mrs. Claus when this guy took over? Did she spontaneously combust? Dust away like Spiderman? Was she brutally murdered saw style when her husband/Santa before died?!?
@@undertaletimetravler3635 Go off the logic of the 3rd movie if a Santa is caught or wishes to never be Saint Nick at all the Mr. And Mrs. Claus are put back in their old lives before they became the magical beings
I've always been befuddled, when the closed caption subtitles meant for the deaf, will put up the closet appropriate word, if a glass drops a d breaks, you're made aware of it with ..." breaking glass " If you have zero frame of reference, you have no idea what that sound would be
yeah, what about that? did she bite the big one when the old santa did? did she get evicted when the elves found out? did she get turned into an elf? was she already and elf and she got demoted to worker? is she just kind of hanging out somewhere mourning her dead husband while his murderer wears his old clothes and talks down to his old minions?
A: What happened to the old Mrs. Clause when the old Santa died? Was she knitting a stocking then just then, dissappear? B: Does the new Mrs. Clause have to put on the old ones robes and become immortal until someone assassinates Scott? Or does she not and can therefore die in 30 years and then he has to find a new wife?
I've always assumed in the first film that the Santa Tim replaces doesn't actually die, he's just incapacitated and can't do the job. Which is why he disappears with a wave because he knows he's going to be fine and so when he disappears in front of him, he reappears at the North Pole, grabs his wife says his good byes to the elves and gets to live out his retirement. It's
If he was angry about Scott being more of a dad to the elves than him it would make sense, if he was angry that he never sees him anymore it would make sense anything other than “I can’t tell my friends my dad is Santa” would’ve made sense as to why he’s harbouring resentment
@@mrcritical6751 I thought that was kind of implied, though. like, the principle mentions that he's absent from Charlie's life so his acting out and Scott not knowing about it makes sense, while Charlie knows that it's because his job is so unique and all-encompassing that others his age wouldn't fully get how much it affects him. he could definitely lie about the details though to still be able to talk about the issue and find peers he relates to in that way. or was that just me assuming there was more to the situation than just Charlie being upset about being the only one to know his dad is Santa?
@@washedblue Charlie talks about how keeping Scott’s secret made him feel like his whole life is built on keeping secrets which started his acting out, although I can also see Charlie acting out being done to try and get his dad’s attention especially when he continues to mess with Carol because he’s probably annoyed Scott came back but is focusing more on finding a wife than with being with him
One thing I want to know is how does that snow globe thing work, I mean the first one established that it can let him see his dad "anytime day or night", at at the end it shows that him shaking the bulb doesn't make Santa instantly appear but have to travel there... So Unless your dad's a total dick, HOW IN THE F DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH HIM! As far as anyone knows, you can force your dad to see you anytime you want, whats this BS about not being able to tell people about your dad being Santa clause. I get it sometimes holding onto a secret can be hard but how is that specific one hard, what are people laughing at you because only your step dad shows up at your events?
Ya know what, I'm really happy to hear the sins that rip into things like Subtitles and stuff meant to help people that re subpar ON OFFICIAL RELEASES. Sure, on TV and maybe on a bootleg website or disk I don't expect full subtitles - or even good ones. But on the OFFICIAL DVD and other releases, there is really no excuse for the poorly neutered subtitles. It's just ... I consider these actual, sincere, legitimate sins [not just the funny ones we've come to love this channel for] and it's absolutely thrilling to see them pop up because they NEED to be addressed. Even if the movie is like the 40th home alone or something, they should at LEAST have the accessibility correct.
I am not deaf, but my parents can be quite hard of hearing sometimes, so we almost always watch movies with the subtitles on. I've noticed that many movies have inaccurate subtitles, and that drives me up the wall!
He didn't kill the Santa that guy fell off the roof and disappeared. There's also a fan theory that previous Santa hated his job and wanted out. It goes on to say that he made too much noise hoping to get caught so he could get out of the whole thing. It makes a bit more sense then the whole I wish I'd never been Santa at all thing from the third movie.
2:06 He can paint that tree with spray paint. He would however need a hard edge or tape to achieve those crisp lines. (no change to the score, just clarifying)
I've always wondered what happened to the previous Mrs Claus. Did she disappear when Santa did when he fell off the roof? Did the elves boot her out before Scott got back to the north pole? The thoughts that keep me awake at night.
Why was Carol/Mrs Claus depicted as old in the closing credits, yet she's apparently back to her old appearance by the third movie? That never made sense to me.
@@rosssapp6990 I feel like that’s a “we didn’t write the plot to accommodate for it” problem. Having Carol looking like a fat old woman in a plot where she has to be 1. Pregnant and 2. Meet up with her parents and hide the truth about her and Scott’s life isn’t exactly a plot that can work when she’s as old as them and wouldn’t look pregnant at first glance
I agree with almost everything the one thing that just keeps jumping out at me was the comment about the hat on the Velociraptor toy. It's a kangaroo that's why it had the Outback hat on still stupid but makes much more sense when you realize it's kangaroo not a dinosaur lol
Also he wasn't holding the naughty/nice list when he asked for it, he was holding the rulebook that Curtis gave him. Seems like CinemaSins is guilty of its own accusation in this video. Also Scott knew Principal Newman longer than a few weeks. He's met with her before this movie which they both comment on during the p/t conference scene. Also he's Santa and thus has intimate knowledge of everyone's lives, so he knows her better than an average person would in this situation.
@@jackofblades4374 he had the list before he had the rulebook though, didn't he? like, the list disappeared during a cut and was replaced by the book and then he asked for the list again? at least, that's what i assume cinema sins is sinning. i haven't watched the movie in years :(
@@erxs no they never gave him the list until he asked for it. He was never supposed to check it because they knew he wasn't capable of making appropriate decisions. He was just supposed to fill in and fool the other elves into thinking Santa hadn't left the north pole until Scott got back. None of the other elves even knew about the Mrs. Clause, it was something Curtis stumbled on while he was reading the rules. Based on the number of snowglobes in the third movie, there have been a LOT of different Santas (scott said he had a couple million snowglobes, each representing a past santa), and it seems like most don't last long enough for the Mrs. Clause to even matter. They didn't want to start a panic and wanted to keep all the elves on track to finish their work in time for Christmas. So they made toy santa and didn't tell the other elves about the Mrs. Clause.
@@jackofblades4374 My question is: How bad is the education system at the North Pole? Even a rookie elf could tell Toy Santa from the real one! Maybe they just shrugged and said, "I'm just an employee, not my problem."
The reason why they didn't go over the matrimony with Tim Santa in the first place, is that they haven't had a Santa last this long to need to know the Mrs. Clause.
Super Unpopular Opinion: I like them all. All 3. Yep, I understand it’s definitely nostalgia affected, and there are things I dislike in every movie. But I can’t help but enjoy these films and watch them every time I get the chance!
The problem I have with Charlie is that he acts like him not being able to tell people his dad is Santa Clause is such a big burden. But literally him telling people his dad was Santa clause caused his dad to lose visitation rights and people didn't believe him at all. If he were to tell people now they would not only not believe him but make fun of him about it too.
Hell kids made fun of him even when he was a little kid and told them, in the first movie after he says “my dad is Santa, he killed the last guy and took his job” a kid makes a joking comment about how he’s gonna throw Scott off a roof and steal his clothes
Is it bad that I liked this movie more than the first? I actually liked the romance between Santa and the principal, I liked the scene where he gives the school faculty gifts from their childhood, and I thought the evil Toy Santa was hilarious. At least it isn't a mess compared to the third film.
@@Shippou011 Honestly, while I liked the time travel plot of the third film, I feel like a lot of the first half of it, with Frost sabotaging Scott's life, could have been cut down considerably. We spend way too much time in that film watching Scott basically going through a mid life crisis and the time travel plot, the plot that this movie advertised and that I was excited to see, started too late into the movie and wrapped up too quickly in my opinion. If I were to fix one thing in TSC3, I would cut a lot of the first half of the film out and film more of the third quarter where Scott experiences the altered present, like really hammering in how bad the changed future is and his journey to save the future.
you like what you like! tbh, upon rewatching it as an adult, I didn't care for the romance because of how short and forced it seemed, especially for something as monumental as finding a Mrs. Claus (and her not knowing this) but I get that that isn't uncommon in romcoms. the scene of him giving out presents to the faculty was fantastic, though!
I wondered when The Santa Clause 2 was going to be sinned. There were some sins I'm glad were mentioned. Hope to see a sins video for the third movie soon.
7:50 "I THINK SANTA FEELS A LITTLE BUZZ!!" 16:54 "YOU ARE A SAD, STRANGE LITTLE MAN!!" Ya get it? Because Tim Allen portrayed Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story franchise. My favorite lines in the movie.
The Peter Boyle cameo is even weirder when you consider he had a cameo in the first movie as Scott Calvin's boss. Did he fall victim to the Father Timeshare? Also, if Santa has the power to just make toys then why does he need the elves? Sure, his magic is limited for the duration of this movie, but what about the rest of the time?
Unpopular Opinion: I actually really enjoy this movie and I think it’s a great sequel. I watch it every Christmas season in a double feature with the first movie. Less said about the third movie, the better.
why do you like it? bec Charlie aged a bit? Tim allen looks EXACTLY like a santa ? the girl in this was hot as hell....don't forget Judge Reinhold being second fiddle to Ho Ho Ho
A bit disappointed in the writers of this for not pointing out that the North Pole is just over 2000 miles from Russia and Santa could have just mail ordered a bride and saved all the trouble.
I'm not gonna lie, i liked it. Same with the original. I hated the third but still, two out of 3 isn't a bad record. I realize that both movies brought some rather disturbing implications. Like how murdering Santa makes you the new Santa, and how you HAVE to be married to continue being Santa, and how cupid could have just hit a random normal woman with the arrow and had her bonded to Santa for life, but they're still not the worst Christmas movies i've ever seen...they're not even the darkest or most disturbing. This is one of those movies where, if you just don't question anything and go along for the ride, you can have a good time.
Even if it's technically not a Christmas movie, I wonder if we'll finally get "EWW Rise of the Guardians" before the year ends (or at the very least around next Easter) lol
2:11 I mean if you start with the outline using one of those can hose attachments, then overlay the green as a “fill in” stencil style you could do lines like that. But for an amateur, even myself, yeah not happening.
I was looking for this comment. That’s exactly what happened and I guess someone wasn’t paying enough attention to the movie to know and sinned it anyway.
At least the Elves were SMILING in this movie and looking like they were ENJOYING their work. In the third movie they looked downright MISERABLE, even before scary Jack Frost Santa took over.
My mother and brother both hard-of-hearing so growing up everything had closed captioning on in our house and I specifically remember catching those captioning errors on the DVD. And playing those shity DVD games that came with it lol
I think I almost died when he told the kid to slide the fuck out of the bow-tied chair. It was so deadpan, like he seriously couldn't believe he had to say it.
He was Santa for enough time for Charlie to age 8 years, and no one told him about the Mrs. Clause. And 28 days until his deadline was when he was told.
The whole damn movie. There. I just saved you 18 minutes and 28 seconds. THIS was one of those movies where the first one was so good, sequels can't compete.
Unless he didn't have the job long enough to need to get one. This movie takes place years after the first one, if the Santa from the first movie was only Santa for a couple years, he would never have had the Mrs. Clause invoked on him.
14:31 Curtis LITERALLY says in this scene that the jetpack he used to get there burned up on reentry, so that is your explanation for why they couldn’t use the way Curtis got there
- Amazed you said nothing about the "Honey, I'm hoooome!" - Charlie is shown to be missing a tooth when he comes to save Curtis and Scott from the bow, suggesting he yanked it with the toaster to get the Tooth Fairy back to their place and give them a lift.
Movie deserves an additional twenty sins for replacing the cool, confident, and generally useful Bernard with his bumbling cartoon nitwit of a twin brother
Of all the lines in every movie, "my elven pride blinded me to all reason", spoken by a 10 year old kid is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever heard
You should sin "Santa Claus: The Movie" from 1985, with Dudley Moore as an elf and John Lithgow as an evil toy company executive. It's a real turd -- probably the worst Santa movie ever made.
You're forgetting Santa Claus and The Ice Cream Bunny. Worst production values and the most annoyingly wretched soundtrack ever. You will hate gazoos after this.
It’s always bothered me how Bernard was fine being in charge of the North Pole for a year in the first movie but he can’t be in charge for less than a month in this movie.
Here's a big sin you missed. Where the hell is the previous Mrs. Claus? The fact she is nowhere to be found and never mentioned has some disturbing ramifications. Like, does she die the moment Santa does? Are their lives literally tied and that if one dies the other does too? If that is the case what if she died before Christmas and as a result killed Santa but there was no one nearby to take over? Could an elf do it? If her life isn't tied to his in a shared death does that imply that the elves just get rid of her? Is the old Mrs. Claus just sent out on a chunk of ice or something? Or did the prior Santa some how find a way to stay Santa for years without needing a wife? None of this is ever explained. Honestly there could have been some interesting elements with a former Mrs. Claus being alive, she could despise Scott for murdering her husband, or the exact opposite and she treats it like nothing ever happened and it scares him how nice she is to him despite killing her husband. follow up sin. Does the whole kill them and replace them rule apply for the other holiday figures? Have their been multiple Easter bunnies? How horrifying is that transformation? What about father time? Does replacing him just make you age into the oldest person alive even if your a kid? That could be nightmarish.
13:12 Nope! This is the stupidest, most unbelievable part of this movie. Nobody gives a crap what their friends parents do or tell their friends what their parents do. Unless they are rich entitled jerks.
Okay the sin where you give around 16:35 I think should be proven in the first movie. The elves saw him in the first movie before he began transforming into his Santa form.
The number of comments and stories i see if people bagging on this movie because he has to 'force' a woman to move there and marry him, when it's pretty well established that it has to be a willing participant, and when it comes down to it, he needs a woman to save Christmas. Also, Curtis explains he got their via jet pack and it didn't work anymore
It's a kangaroo, not a velociraptor toy dingus. A cowboy kangaroo apparently. One sin for you. Also Scott and Carol knew each other for years. That was made clear.
When Charlie is ranting about how the reason why he acts like the way he does is because he can't tell anyone including his stepsister that his father is Santa but are they completely forgetting the fact that it wasn't Scott's fault that in the first movie that if it wasn't for Charlie basically forcing his dad to be the new Saint Nick was the reason he can't say about why his dad is at the North Pole Santaing it up in the first place.
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I think you forgot something what happened to the previous Mrs. Claus when this guy took over? Did she spontaneously combust? Dust away like Spiderman? Was she brutally murdered saw style when her husband/Santa before died?!?
Do the movie Klaus next
@@undertaletimetravler3635 Go off the logic of the 3rd movie if a Santa is caught or wishes to never be Saint Nick at all the Mr. And Mrs. Claus are put back in their old lives before they became the magical beings
Can you please do
"Everything wrong with They Live"
I've always been befuddled, when the closed caption subtitles meant for the deaf, will put up the closet appropriate word, if a glass drops a d
breaks, you're made aware of it with ..." breaking glass "
If you have zero frame of reference, you have no idea what that sound would be
Okay but the scene at the faculty party where all their faces light up when he gives them childhood toys is kind of heartwarming
Definitely my favorite scene in the movie
@@harrisonho8934 mine too.
Likewise, it's always been one of my favourite moments too, seeing them rediscover their inner children again!
Has watching eww not taught you anything? Jeremy is a soulless monster
@@kickhuggy Ya but he's our soulless monster
The biggest sin that bothered me about the movie is we heard nothing about the previous Santa's wife.
yeah, what about that? did she bite the big one when the old santa did? did she get evicted when the elves found out? did she get turned into an elf? was she already and elf and she got demoted to worker? is she just kind of hanging out somewhere mourning her dead husband while his murderer wears his old clothes and talks down to his old minions?
Her life must be tied to Santa. Since he lives on and on and on, if he is 500 when he dies she goes out to.
Very strong point there!
The old santa sucked so maybe he was also new to the job lol
when Santa dies... She dies..................... thats in the fine fine fine FINE print at the bottom of the Santa Clause...😆🤣
A: What happened to the old Mrs. Clause when the old Santa died? Was she knitting a stocking then just then, dissappear?
B: Does the new Mrs. Clause have to put on the old ones robes and become immortal until someone assassinates Scott? Or does she not and can therefore die in 30 years and then he has to find a new wife?
She turned into a Befana and stuck a broomstick into her P!#$% to fly high and beyond.
@@TheGrmany69 well then
And how did the elves not know? Heck in the first movie the one who makes hot chocolate said she’s like a thousand years old.
I've always assumed in the first film that the Santa Tim replaces doesn't actually die, he's just incapacitated and can't do the job. Which is why he disappears with a wave because he knows he's going to be fine and so when he disappears in front of him, he reappears at the North Pole, grabs his wife says his good byes to the elves and gets to live out his retirement. It's
The end credits show Carol old and looking more like a traditional Mrs Clause so I think she has the same immortality as Scott
I’m so glad you sinned Charlie. I’m always like “Oh, boohoo” when he cries over not being able to tell his friends his dad is Santa.
I know, right? What teenager is actually crying over this? I never understood it. It's disturbing, really.
If he was angry about Scott being more of a dad to the elves than him it would make sense, if he was angry that he never sees him anymore it would make sense anything other than “I can’t tell my friends my dad is Santa” would’ve made sense as to why he’s harbouring resentment
@@mrcritical6751 I thought that was kind of implied, though. like, the principle mentions that he's absent from Charlie's life so his acting out and Scott not knowing about it makes sense, while Charlie knows that it's because his job is so unique and all-encompassing that others his age wouldn't fully get how much it affects him. he could definitely lie about the details though to still be able to talk about the issue and find peers he relates to in that way.
or was that just me assuming there was more to the situation than just Charlie being upset about being the only one to know his dad is Santa?
@@washedblue Charlie talks about how keeping Scott’s secret made him feel like his whole life is built on keeping secrets which started his acting out, although I can also see Charlie acting out being done to try and get his dad’s attention especially when he continues to mess with Carol because he’s probably annoyed Scott came back but is focusing more on finding a wife than with being with him
One thing I want to know is how does that snow globe thing work, I mean the first one established that it can let him see his dad "anytime day or night", at at the end it shows that him shaking the bulb doesn't make Santa instantly appear but have to travel there... So Unless your dad's a total dick, HOW IN THE F DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH HIM!
As far as anyone knows, you can force your dad to see you anytime you want, whats this BS about not being able to tell people about your dad being Santa clause. I get it sometimes holding onto a secret can be hard but how is that specific one hard, what are people laughing at you because only your step dad shows up at your events?
The scene where Scott warms up a dull Xmas party by giving everyone gifts from their childhood was very heartwarming for me.
I love that part!
That's the bit I have always remembered. I still tear up a little every time.
Seeing is believing believing in Seeing
A liiiiittle bit creepy tho lol
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Ya know what, I'm really happy to hear the sins that rip into things like Subtitles and stuff meant to help people that re subpar ON OFFICIAL RELEASES. Sure, on TV and maybe on a bootleg website or disk I don't expect full subtitles - or even good ones. But on the OFFICIAL DVD and other releases, there is really no excuse for the poorly neutered subtitles.
It's just ... I consider these actual, sincere, legitimate sins [not just the funny ones we've come to love this channel for] and it's absolutely thrilling to see them pop up because they NEED to be addressed. Even if the movie is like the 40th home alone or something, they should at LEAST have the accessibility correct.
I am not deaf, but my parents can be quite hard of hearing sometimes, so we almost always watch movies with the subtitles on. I've noticed that many movies have inaccurate subtitles, and that drives me up the wall!
He didn't kill the Santa that guy fell off the roof and disappeared. There's also a fan theory that previous Santa hated his job and wanted out. It goes on to say that he made too much noise hoping to get caught so he could get out of the whole thing. It makes a bit more sense then the whole I wish I'd never been Santa at all thing from the third movie.
Damn, that's dark. A suicidal Santa? Holy shit.
If he hated his job so much, why didn't he just use the escape clause and not f*cking kill himself
Have you watched The Santa Clauses yet?
2:06 He can paint that tree with spray paint. He would however need a hard edge or tape to achieve those crisp lines. (no change to the score, just clarifying)
So... are we gonna address the "velociraptor" toy? That's a kangaroo, the hat must be an australian thing, IDK... 😂
Definitely an Australian thing - it's an Akubra, basically the Australian equivalent of a cowboy hat
THANK YOU!!!!
Australia is America and Canada's favorite brother along with New Zealand but they don't like India
It is actually called a Slouch Hat, worn by the Australian Army
I'm glad someone else noticed too xD
I've always wondered what happened to the previous Mrs Claus. Did she disappear when Santa did when he fell off the roof? Did the elves boot her out before Scott got back to the north pole? The thoughts that keep me awake at night.
It’s possible that the previous Santa was still new to the job and hadn’t got to the point where he needed to find a Mrs Claus yet.!
“Is that a jet pack?”
Tell me you don’t remember the first Santa Clause movie without telling me.
“Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?” - Santa Clause 2 caption writers
I'm not even deaf and it annoys me when the subtitles don't match what's being said.
Well i doubt you’d know what was actually being said if you were deaf
@@robynnhoud That just makes it much worse
If you're not deaf, why have subtitles on in the first place?
Deaf people aren’t the only ones who use subtitles. Auditory processing disorder makes subtitles very nice.
@@TheKrensada auditory processing disorder
Why was Carol/Mrs Claus depicted as old in the closing credits, yet she's apparently back to her old appearance by the third movie? That never made sense to me.
Because it would cost too much to have two characters in constant old age makeup and fat-suits fit most of the movie
They actually tried to get her in fat makeup in the next movie but they realized it just did not work. It was actually pretty funny.
Wait what?
@@rosssapp6990 I feel like that’s a “we didn’t write the plot to accommodate for it” problem. Having Carol looking like a fat old woman in a plot where she has to be 1. Pregnant and 2. Meet up with her parents and hide the truth about her and Scott’s life isn’t exactly a plot that can work when she’s as old as them and wouldn’t look pregnant at first glance
@Leonardo Santuario That doesn't excuse plot holes.
Tim Allen as the toy Santa is still so hysterical!
Yep
Lol
"It's... Charlie." "Sheen? I thought he straightened out." That joke aged poorly, methinks!
Actually, I think it's funnier now than it would've been at the time of this movie's release.
That joke makes me really question why Scott thinks the elves would give him info about Charlie Sheen randomly
Your genuine rage at this movie is hilarious. Best channel on RUclips.
I agree with almost everything the one thing that just keeps jumping out at me was the comment about the hat on the Velociraptor toy. It's a kangaroo that's why it had the Outback hat on still stupid but makes much more sense when you realize it's kangaroo not a dinosaur lol
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that caught that.
Also he wasn't holding the naughty/nice list when he asked for it, he was holding the rulebook that Curtis gave him. Seems like CinemaSins is guilty of its own accusation in this video.
Also Scott knew Principal Newman longer than a few weeks. He's met with her before this movie which they both comment on during the p/t conference scene. Also he's Santa and thus has intimate knowledge of everyone's lives, so he knows her better than an average person would in this situation.
@@jackofblades4374 he had the list before he had the rulebook though, didn't he? like, the list disappeared during a cut and was replaced by the book and then he asked for the list again? at least, that's what i assume cinema sins is sinning. i haven't watched the movie in years :(
@@erxs no they never gave him the list until he asked for it. He was never supposed to check it because they knew he wasn't capable of making appropriate decisions. He was just supposed to fill in and fool the other elves into thinking Santa hadn't left the north pole until Scott got back.
None of the other elves even knew about the Mrs. Clause, it was something Curtis stumbled on while he was reading the rules. Based on the number of snowglobes in the third movie, there have been a LOT of different Santas (scott said he had a couple million snowglobes, each representing a past santa), and it seems like most don't last long enough for the Mrs. Clause to even matter.
They didn't want to start a panic and wanted to keep all the elves on track to finish their work in time for Christmas. So they made toy santa and didn't tell the other elves about the Mrs. Clause.
@@jackofblades4374 My question is: How bad is the education system at the North Pole? Even a rookie elf could tell Toy Santa from the real one! Maybe they just shrugged and said, "I'm just an employee, not my problem."
The reason why they didn't go over the matrimony with Tim Santa in the first place, is that they haven't had a Santa last this long to need to know the Mrs. Clause.
No idea why Elizabeth Mitchell isn't a bigger star. She's a good actress and beautiful as all get out.
she was in 2007-09
2:47
Cinemasins calls this toy a Velociraptor when it is clearly a Kangaroo.
*Ding*
Super Unpopular Opinion: I like them all. All 3. Yep, I understand it’s definitely nostalgia affected, and there are things I dislike in every movie. But I can’t help but enjoy these films and watch them every time I get the chance!
Finally! Someone else who loves the 3rd too. Jack Frost is awesome and I love that movie !
The problem I have with Charlie is that he acts like him not being able to tell people his dad is Santa Clause is such a big burden. But literally him telling people his dad was Santa clause caused his dad to lose visitation rights and people didn't believe him at all. If he were to tell people now they would not only not believe him but make fun of him about it too.
Hell kids made fun of him even when he was a little kid and told them, in the first movie after he says “my dad is Santa, he killed the last guy and took his job” a kid makes a joking comment about how he’s gonna throw Scott off a roof and steal his clothes
maybe thats why he keeps it a secret , fear of getting commited
"Whoever is hosting jeopardy today" absolutely killed me 😂
Is it bad that I liked this movie more than the first? I actually liked the romance between Santa and the principal, I liked the scene where he gives the school faculty gifts from their childhood, and I thought the evil Toy Santa was hilarious. At least it isn't a mess compared to the third film.
I liked it
If I remember correctly Rodger Ebert even said that he liked this one more than the original it has a great deal of affection towards it
@@Shippou011 Honestly, while I liked the time travel plot of the third film, I feel like a lot of the first half of it, with Frost sabotaging Scott's life, could have been cut down considerably. We spend way too much time in that film watching Scott basically going through a mid life crisis and the time travel plot, the plot that this movie advertised and that I was excited to see, started too late into the movie and wrapped up too quickly in my opinion. If I were to fix one thing in TSC3, I would cut a lot of the first half of the film out and film more of the third quarter where Scott experiences the altered present, like really hammering in how bad the changed future is and his journey to save the future.
you like what you like! tbh, upon rewatching it as an adult, I didn't care for the romance because of how short and forced it seemed, especially for something as monumental as finding a Mrs. Claus (and her not knowing this) but I get that that isn't uncommon in romcoms. the scene of him giving out presents to the faculty was fantastic, though!
The Third movie is like four movies in one (poking fun at the fact in LMS Jay Leno say these movies felt like six movies)
How did the "DeSantafication process has begun" line not get a sin?
Because the delivery is hilarious?
@@broadwaybaby8914 This is true. Good enough for a sin removal?
@@broadwaybaby8914 its a fantastic line to be fair
Spencer Breslin was doing an obvious Jim Carrey thing with that line read and it turned out to be genuinely amusing! 🤣
I wondered when The Santa Clause 2 was going to be sinned. There were some sins I'm glad were mentioned. Hope to see a sins video for the third movie soon.
The 3rd movie is just a crime.
I can't wait to see his reaction to Jack Frost hitting on Mrs. Claus' mother with hot chocolate and narcissistic serenades.
@@SaraRyderN7 I thought Martin Short was okay in it but yeah there should've only been the original.
7:50 "I THINK SANTA FEELS A LITTLE BUZZ!!"
16:54 "YOU ARE A SAD, STRANGE LITTLE MAN!!"
Ya get it? Because Tim Allen portrayed Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story franchise. My favorite lines in the movie.
The Peter Boyle cameo is even weirder when you consider he had a cameo in the first movie as Scott Calvin's boss. Did he fall victim to the Father Timeshare?
Also, if Santa has the power to just make toys then why does he need the elves? Sure, his magic is limited for the duration of this movie, but what about the rest of the time?
i think it helps he has the beard disguise cuz u wouldnt recognize him.
i'm giving you a like for that funny pun
He probably wanted to get away from Marie
Unpopular Opinion: I actually really enjoy this movie and I think it’s a great sequel. I watch it every Christmas season in a double feature with the first movie. Less said about the third movie, the better.
no wonder it's unpopular (jk)
I hadn’t seen the first one in 15 years since I was a kid and saw it on Netflix last year, I forgot how cheesy it was 😂
why do you like it? bec Charlie aged a bit? Tim allen looks EXACTLY like a santa ? the girl in this was hot as hell....don't forget Judge Reinhold being second fiddle to Ho Ho Ho
I loved it too ❤️❤️
Agreed. It’s overhated
The evil dictator Santa is one of the few things I remember about this movie.
I just finished Lost a couple days ago and “principal Juliet” had me dying
A bit disappointed in the writers of this for not pointing out that the North Pole is just over 2000 miles from Russia and Santa could have just mail ordered a bride and saved all the trouble.
now that would be one sexy woman lol and she woulnt mind the cold
Most underrated comment on the whole thing
I'm not gonna lie, i liked it. Same with the original. I hated the third but still, two out of 3 isn't a bad record. I realize that both movies brought some rather disturbing implications. Like how murdering Santa makes you the new Santa, and how you HAVE to be married to continue being Santa, and how cupid could have just hit a random normal woman with the arrow and had her bonded to Santa for life, but they're still not the worst Christmas movies i've ever seen...they're not even the darkest or most disturbing. This is one of those movies where, if you just don't question anything and go along for the ride, you can have a good time.
Me too! I loved this movie and the first one!
I’m the opposite, I can’t stand this one but the third is one of my favorites cus I love Martin Short.
The first one is my favourite, but I like all three of them and I watch them every year. The third one is definitely my least favourite though.
I like all three, but I like the third the least. Still watch them yearly though 😂
Santa Clasue:The Movie from 1985 is the Darkest Christmas kids film ive seen and its a fantstic film and so OTT with Litgow hamming it up to the last.
You think this one is bad? Oh ho ho ho ho, I don't think you can handle the third one, The Escape Clause...
Everything Wrong With A Christmas Story needs to happen this Christmas and Jeremy knows that he can’t ignore it!
1:01 I'm actually impressed they got the "Defcon" system correct (with the numbers going down as the situation gets worse).
Did the sin guy call a kangaroo, a velociraptor? The hat was probably an outback hat because kangaroos, and Australia...
Cinema Sins sins: 1
It’s called a Slouch hat. Probably made by Akubra
yeah he did us aussies bad lol
“Its Charlie.”
“Sheen? I thought he’d straightened out.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ha
Lol
Even if it's technically not a Christmas movie, I wonder if we'll finally get "EWW Rise of the Guardians" before the year ends (or at the very least around next Easter) lol
I love how he just rolled off all of Tim Allen’s roles
2:16 Principal Juliet? Not sure if this was a mistake, or someone just really likes Lost!
2:11 I mean if you start with the outline using one of those can hose attachments, then overlay the green as a “fill in” stencil style you could do lines like that. But for an amateur, even myself, yeah not happening.
If I remember correctly Charlie pulled his tooth so he could get the tooth fairy to bring him to the North Pole
I was looking for this comment. That’s exactly what happened and I guess someone wasn’t paying enough attention to the movie to know and sinned it anyway.
@@simgirl451 "hyper-observant" he says
@@simgirl451 getting lazy
What happened to the previous Mrs Claus and possibly their family when Tim Allen killed Santa?
It’s possible that the previous Santa was still new to the job and hadn’t got to the point where he needed to find a Mrs Claus yet.!
Seeing how the previous Santa was big enough of a klutz to fall off a roof and make too much noise I’m pretty certain he was new to the job
@@mrcritical6751 thats hillarious LOL
0:18 😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I love that reference!
Just to let you know that Curtis is played by the same actor that played Conrad in the atrocious Cat in the Hat movie
He was in "The Kid" before this, one of my mom's favorites.
In which Tim Allen was supposed to star but backed out.
That movie was horrifying
@@CrushingGrizzly98 so bad Dr Seuss’s widow forbade anymore live action movies based on his work
I’ve watched this video three times in the last day or two, the line “fuck the deaf write fewer words” has made me laugh a little harder each time
Question: why did Jeremy go nuts with rage when the head elf said “It’s the Mrs. Claus?” Even for him that seems like a gross overreaction
Maybe the joke was way too cheesy. Kind of like a "dad joke" that goes too far. 4:25
Yeah, here's a question for you - WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PORNO SPAM REPLIES!?
bec its a cheap cheap cheap cheap ploy on words. its really bad abd basic comedy.
Ok I think I get it. It’s a pun on both Mrs. Claus the person, and the Mrs. clause the rule they’re talking about…yeah that’s kinda lame
It's the same pun that moves the plot of the first movie, so I guess that at least makes it consistent
2:50 sin off. I’m pretty sure that’s a kangaroo with a bush hat on.
At least the Elves were SMILING in this movie and looking like they were ENJOYING their work. In the third movie they looked downright MISERABLE, even before scary Jack Frost Santa took over.
"Velociraptor toy" is a kangaroo, and the hat is supposed to be the stereotypical aussie hat +1 sin for cinema sins
Honestly, I enjoy this more than the first movie.
Agreed
Me too!
"It's Charlie..."
"Sheen? I thought he straightened out"
This went over my head so far that I'm laughing hearing it now
The funny thing is that was watching this movie when I got this notification. Can anyone spell coincidence?
Coincidence
I'm not watching the movie, I'm actually watching the complete series DVD of jimmy neutron.
Koinsidense.
Coencidents
I hope you know this is a joke lol
I think not!!!
Love it when Jeremy goes off about the subtitles
Ah yes, nice to see Tim Allen earning himself another house
My mother and brother both hard-of-hearing so growing up everything had closed captioning on in our house and I specifically remember catching those captioning errors on the DVD. And playing those shity DVD games that came with it lol
To quote a line with "Santa clause 2" "seeing is believing believing in seeing"
I remember liking these movies as a kid…and then rewatching them as an adult and kind of hating them. It’s the Rankin Bass effect!
I think I almost died when he told the kid to slide the fuck out of the bow-tied chair. It was so deadpan, like he seriously couldn't believe he had to say it.
Damn I normally LOVE watching you tear apart all my favorite movies....but this one hurt a little extra
2:17 the Principal Juliet line doesn’t get enough credit. That’s what I thought the first time I saw this too.
I'm gonna have to give CINEMASINS a sin for mistaking a kangaroo toy for a velociraptor.
The Burger King steals Santa's position.
He was Santa for enough time for Charlie to age 8 years, and no one told him about the Mrs. Clause. And 28 days until his deadline was when he was told.
The "whoever is hosting jeopardy today" joke killed me im ngl
Who's on shrooms, seeing a kangaroo with an australian hat and mistake it for a velociraptor...?
Charlie's Tooth sparkles because that's how he got Carol to the North Pole. Santa used his magic to restore the tooth after the marriage.
I loved Tim Allen in this movie. When he hit his head on the file cabinet I lost it. That was the funniest thing to me as a kid
It’s still funny. Neil’s new age psychology crap was always annoying/boring.
13:40 "F*ck you, little girl! You're six! You don't know s*it!" Had me rolling!!!!!! HAHAHHAHAH
I can’t the only one who desperately wants the CinemaSins crew to sin “Tokyo Godfathers “ for the holidays!
The whole damn movie. There. I just saved you 18 minutes and 28 seconds.
THIS was one of those movies where the first one was so good, sequels can't compete.
Something I've wondered is, if he needs to have a Mrs. Clause to be Santa, what happened to the old Santa's wife? He must of had one right?
Shhh we don't talk about it... Elf secret
Reindeer food.
Unless he didn't have the job long enough to need to get one. This movie takes place years after the first one, if the Santa from the first movie was only Santa for a couple years, he would never have had the Mrs. Clause invoked on him.
Love that he knows the opening to Muppets Christmas Carol!
To me the biggest sin for kids is how the reindeer went from cool and realistic with personality and humour to complete trash
14:31 Curtis LITERALLY says in this scene that the jetpack he used to get there burned up on reentry, so that is your explanation for why they couldn’t use the way Curtis got there
I’m beginning to think CinemaSins did not get along with his dad, and his dad was a BIG Tim Allen fan in the 90s and early 2000s.
*ding
- Amazed you said nothing about the "Honey, I'm hoooome!"
- Charlie is shown to be missing a tooth when he comes to save Curtis and Scott from the bow, suggesting he yanked it with the toaster to get the Tooth Fairy back to their place and give them a lift.
I would love to see you do an EWW on my favourite Xmas movie - Santa Claus: The Movie.
Almost worth it for John Lithgow hamming it up alone. ;)
Movie deserves an additional twenty sins for replacing the cool, confident, and generally useful Bernard with his bumbling cartoon nitwit of a twin brother
This is funny so far, love ur content😂
I'm going to give you 5 sins for sinning the toy with the hat, and questioning why you'd do that with a velociraptor - It's a kangaroo
What's concerning is that the Blind Date's Santa shirt literally has Tim Allen's face on it
I noticed that too 😂
Of all the lines in every movie, "my elven pride blinded me to all reason", spoken by a 10 year old kid is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever heard
If he hates this sequel, I'd hate to see his thoughts of the third film that EVERYONE hates.
6:05 rest in peace, alex trebek. 😭
You should sin "Santa Claus: The Movie" from 1985, with Dudley Moore as an elf and John Lithgow as an evil toy company executive. It's a real turd -- probably the worst Santa movie ever made.
Umm.Santa Claus Conquers the Martians has entered the chat.
@@jbvader721 Santa Claus Conquers the Martians was at least amusingly silly.
@@raydunakin Especially with the MST3K track.
@@jbvader721 MST3K makes it hilarious!
You're forgetting Santa Claus and The Ice Cream Bunny. Worst production values and the most annoyingly wretched soundtrack ever. You will hate gazoos after this.
It’s always bothered me how Bernard was fine being in charge of the North Pole for a year in the first movie but he can’t be in charge for less than a month in this movie.
Here's a big sin you missed. Where the hell is the previous Mrs. Claus? The fact she is nowhere to be found and never mentioned has some disturbing ramifications. Like, does she die the moment Santa does? Are their lives literally tied and that if one dies the other does too? If that is the case what if she died before Christmas and as a result killed Santa but there was no one nearby to take over? Could an elf do it? If her life isn't tied to his in a shared death does that imply that the elves just get rid of her? Is the old Mrs. Claus just sent out on a chunk of ice or something? Or did the prior Santa some how find a way to stay Santa for years without needing a wife? None of this is ever explained. Honestly there could have been some interesting elements with a former Mrs. Claus being alive, she could despise Scott for murdering her husband, or the exact opposite and she treats it like nothing ever happened and it scares him how nice she is to him despite killing her husband.
follow up sin. Does the whole kill them and replace them rule apply for the other holiday figures? Have their been multiple Easter bunnies? How horrifying is that transformation? What about father time? Does replacing him just make you age into the oldest person alive even if your a kid? That could be nightmarish.
It’s possible that the previous Santa was still new to the job and hadn’t got to the point where he needed to find a Mrs Claus yet.!
If I recall the first movie says he held the job for a few years, so he should have had too
Sometimes you come off as an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn when they aren't even on your lawn , they're just walking by on the sidewalk.
13:12 Nope! This is the stupidest, most unbelievable part of this movie. Nobody gives a crap what their friends parents do or tell their friends what their parents do.
Unless they are rich entitled jerks.
Okay the sin where you give around 16:35 I think should be proven in the first movie. The elves saw him in the first movie before he began transforming into his Santa form.
The number of comments and stories i see if people bagging on this movie because he has to 'force' a woman to move there and marry him, when it's pretty well established that it has to be a willing participant, and when it comes down to it, he needs a woman to save Christmas.
Also, Curtis explains he got their via jet pack and it didn't work anymore
14:10 all those lights... Still dark in that room, lol
It's a kangaroo, not a velociraptor toy dingus. A cowboy kangaroo apparently. One sin for you.
Also Scott and Carol knew each other for years. That was made clear.
When I watched this when I was a lot younger I used to think that the bad version of Santa was a hybrid between Stalin and Santa.
Jeremy do you really think that toy was a velociraptor? It's clearly an Aussie kangaroo.
When Charlie is ranting about how the reason why he acts like the way he does is because he can't tell anyone including his stepsister that his father is Santa but are they completely forgetting the fact that it wasn't Scott's fault that in the first movie that if it wasn't for Charlie basically forcing his dad to be the new Saint Nick was the reason he can't say about why his dad is at the North Pole Santaing it up in the first place.