This is a wonderful line. The engineering of this line is something to behold, considering the era in which it was built. When you consider that this line, along with many others, was completed back in the late 1880"s, the work on this line is outstanding. I had read about this line so back in the early 80's, while on vacation I purposely took a trip from Newcastle to London via Carlisle, the Settle to Carlisle line, Leeds, York then London. The trip took the best part of a day, but was well worth it. I was on a BritRail pass which allowed me great freedom of travel. I vividly remember the trip from Carlisle to Settle and on to Leeds. It was a real train consisting of a diesel electric loco and a string of carriages; passengers consisted of people like myself, heads and cameras sticking out of any open window, and regular passengers trying to stay warm because we railfans where letting in the cold September weather. At Leeds I waited for a train to York, then took the HST125 service to London. Due to lack of research on my part, I regret not travelling down to London on the more direct line from Leeds to London on the Midland Rail route. It is a trip that I fondly remember about 40 years later!
"descent" is the correct spelling for the word in the third paragraph of the description. Thanks for sharing the video, BTW. I really enjoyed going along for the ride.
Brilliant, fantastic, wonderful, honestly, But that bloody rain drop on the window from 2hrs in for almost 35mins, did take the edge of a bit. loved the scenery as well, would of been so good on a sunny day, well done.
beautifully done, and to think they wanted to demolish this incredible line. Even on a foul day, you cannot help but be thrilled by its dramatic and wild nature, that's the magic railways have, and you've captured that well here. I'm not as enthused by cars, but nothing makes me happier than to sit behind the cab controls in my simulator.
The rythmical rocking and sound of the V12 engine was also a nightmare if I was tired, it was almost induced a trance like state of sleepiness when sitting in loops waiting time etc.
Steaky Westinghouse I can imagine it was pretty soporific with the vibration as well. A real hazard of the job. I understand the noise levels are quite high, so that in itself is quite exhausting.
Once again fantastic video footage, I've been down this line many times but never like this, this would have been a trainspotters dream back in my day.
Great video Paul, thanks for sharing. was having a look to see what the Settle to Carlisle line was like compared to my route on Train Simulator 2017. and it's very accurate. really enjoyed watching this.
Thanks for this great video! I volunteer on the S&C and travel on it everyday so it's nice to see a different perspective like this. I was probably on that 4 car 158 that passed! :)
Cheers Kevin. The S&C was one of my favourite routes to drive. Unfortunately this trip was the last time I will ever do it again for the gorse able future.
Many thanks for this. In terms of resolution and correct exposure, the best I have ever seen. I am impressed that you have put it out on You Tube, rather than trying to commercialise it. Puts my own efforts of 1983 to shame, though to be fair, I could not have done better with the technology then available. Regards, Alan Frizzell.
Cheers Alan - I had thought about it, as the version on my computer is super high-res compared to the diminishing video quality of RUclips and it's up-loader that ruins the quality. I might put it out on DVD at some point :)
This is a great video showing the settle & Carlisle line from one of my favourite locos with a very professional driver at the controls 👌 keep up the good work 👍
Cheers Paul, appreciate the compliments. It's been around 5 years since I last drove over there and that video was my last driving turn on the S&C before we lost our coal flows for good. With that, and loss of other work, I had to return to passenger train work. But with current Covid-19 stuff going on, I'm just happy to have a job and one that is required to play a part in helping keep the country moving. Stay safe!!
Of all of the S&C cab videos I've seen over the years, this was the best. Superb sound as well. Only criticism, station name graphics would have added a lot.
Yes I agree. Because the light is getting low, the camera is using a long shutter speed so the station names on the name boards are too blurred to read.
Thanks a lot. I live in Leeds, and this was the first time I've ever 'been' along the Leeds avoiding line, whatever it's called. Btw, all that way through glorious scenery, only to end up at a wet South Milford in the dark. You must love your job!
I see Whitehall junction hasn’t changed since 1999/2000. Notorious for holding freight there. I did notice a new station near Kirkstall loops. Tell A Lees, A Prentice and T Khaler I’m asking for them. Good video by the way. 👍
This shows the damage done to the line after the winter floods. The section at 32.30-33.30 is the start of the landslide at Eden Brows where half a million tons of earth is being moved. 39.48-39.55 is a landslide that took out part of the wing wall of a bridge and the section at 43.45-43.55 is another landslide in Baron Wood.
The latter two have since been sorted out, but the Eden Brows work is still very much ongoing. The top layers of the slip site have been dug out & removed and preparatory work for 220+ steel & concrete piles to be driven is close to completion. Once the piles are in, a 100m concrete platform will be built to sit on top of the piles and the trackbed reinstated on top of that . A seriously major bit of civil engineering!
Work's now in full swing to sort the Eden Brows problem - 220 steel-lined concrete piles are being driven into the bedrock below the formation to provide the support for a 100m concrete platform (essentially a big slab) upon which the track will be relaid. That'll ensure the track bed remains stable even if the bank moves again Line's due to reopen on 31 March 2017.
Great ride out.🥰. BUT... Would have been oh so much better if you'd labelled the destinations for the tracks coming in and out, left and right, stations, tunnels, bridges (or rivers) etc etc. I didn't notice the steam trains at Keighley.! Or, did we not pass through there.?🤔? Knowing where I was would have been brilliant, and learning a bit along the way would have been great also. Maybe next time eh.!🤔🤔!. Rich 🥰🥰🥰
The video is clearly midwinter, and more than likely midweek too. So why should there be steam trains at Keighley? They're all tucked up in their shed at Haworth.
What a pity we could not see Ingleborough in its glory. But what an immense amount of 5 repair and reconstruction between Carlisle and Garsdale. There were at least 3 slacks of 5 m.p.h. and a slip just created before Garsdale. Rock and netting protection were evident in abundance. It must be a most expensive stretch to maintain. A good Pennine rainy day well portrayed
Most of the TSRs have been cleared now, other than the big one at Eden Brows. That's due to be finished at the end of March 2017 (the piling work for the support slab is under way at the moment).
Although I hardly recognize it in the dark, I don't miss doing points maintenance at Milford! Driving up from London and staying in a hotel to maintain a few sets lol
A great video slightly spoilt by the water spot signal aspect colour multiplier! I often visit my birth town, Carlisle. but have lived most of my life in Croydon, Orpington and now Paddock Wood (the Colonels first RE job). I got a little lost in the dusk East of Leeds where I've only visited twice, once by rail via Doncaster and Wakefield en route to Bradford to investigate and organise repairs to the leaky bus deck of the Interchange. and the second by car to the Highway Agency's office outside City station. I assume engine shed junction is Holbeck and the route to Castleford is via Addlesford (I can't read other station names on the video) and note Fairburn is just east of Castleford but can't find Milford west sidings, there's a MIlford much further north? The lapsed times seem longer than the distance on Google maps. Help please You've still got multiple routes, we lost the Colonels branch to Hawkhurst pre-Beeching!
BIG TONE Cheers. I've uploaded another video with the route from Gascogne Wood (ex Selby mine) to Drax power station. Worth a watch as that has some stuff that's now vanished forever too.
Here in the UK (and Australia), this will overhaul the national haulage too. If the weight and density of the battery is to be expected, then this will create mass adoption especially here with diesel prices being astronomical high. Saw one of artics fuelling up from a quarter of a tank to full for £500 which is mental
I was a fireman at kingmoor carlisle and have many happy memories of the carlisle settle line like in winter battleing through snow drifts from kirby stephen to blea moor and in summer seeing the farmers makeing hay yes the steam days were the best
@@tomhind266d6 I was a fireman at Bradford, Manningham up to closure in April 1967. Did you ever work the Carlisle to Bradford all station stoppers with the "Clans"?
Great video!!! Thank you for posting. Curious as to the name of the first signal box noticed at 28:17. Couldn't read the station sign board on the front of the building.
Superb Video! as a school boy used to (very quietly) get footplate rides on steam engines on the S & C, it has been a long time since I have been on that line but not much seems to have changed. Did I notice access lines still to Upperby MPD (12B)?
it says whistle, but i cant see a reason for it ? their all, a long way, before any crossing point, 26 : 59 28 : 35 31 : 31 unless its because the train is traveling slower than usual, it didnt whistle when going through tunnels, how can he be sure that nobody has wandered into them ? it could get very messy
..where is it..that the S & C joins " WIRED " Tracks..@ 2:19:23..at the southern end of the route...as I dont seem to recognise this part..have we joined another route here....as from here onwards it appears to be a wee bit too " mod' Tech "..as opposed to the more traditional scene of the S& C..railway..??
At 19 minutes into the video there train is halted outside Carlisle. At the bottom of the signal head there is a sign. It is a white 'squashed' hexagon with a black X in it. Can anybody tell me what it means, please?lovely video.
Hi Russel. It is to advise the driver that the signal post telephone associated with that signal is limited clearance and should only be used in an emergency. We very rarely use the SPT now since we have GSM-R in cab telephone radios to contact the signaller with.
It is yes, it's "Howe & Co" Signal box, it used to previously serve private sidings for Howe & Co industrial. Now it is merely a block box to seperate between Culgaith and Carlisle signal boxes.
Sitting for 35 minutes on the Up Shipley line outside Leeds seems daft, blocking a line (although you can see the 333s heading along the Up and Down Harrogate). Surely sitting in the Kirkstall Loops would have been better?
Ulleskelf It's not blocking a line there. The Up Shipley is nearly always used for pathing freight trains as it takes less time to bring the train to a stand there than slow to almost a stand before Kirkstall for the signal to get you in the up loop.
Was this recorded before or after the closure? I recalled that 5mph crawl adjacent to a monster landslip. At one end there was an operative carefully watching you pass by. I assume that if the train started to move sideways he was there to scream "JUMP"! Joking apart, there was a lot of interesting content. The last time I passed that way was behind a Class 47 before Portillo reprieved it.
I have asked repeatedly whether you might film more cab rides but you never replied. I would really appreciate a reply. Do you not film cab ride videos anymore ? Please, please respond! Thanks, Dana. :))))
The issue is simply visibility of the train from the track. Perhaps it is important to remember that mainline train speeds are typically in the range of 85 to 125mph. This means that conventional headlights are completely useless for braking purposes, but high intensity markers may be of real value.
..yeh, thats an awesome ride..the S &C...done it quite a few times...in both directions....But jeese, this driver was really MOTORING along there...I would have said Technically probly exceeding the track speed limit.....as I thought the Track Speed was limited to around 50 mph..on this route...but he seemed to be bombing along there at about 75 + in places along the way.. ...!!! ..A good video though mate..
Hi Steve. The permissible speed between Petteril Bridge Junction (just south of Carlisle Station) and Skipton is 60mph (With the exception of any ESR/TSR or PSR's). The permissible speed after Skipton increases to 90MPH, but the train is limited to 75mph at this point due to the maximum speed of the locomotive and the HTA wagons in tow. Should the locomotive speed increase to 77mph, then tractive power is automatically removed and if the speed then increases to 79mph then there is an automatic penalty brake application which applies the brake to emergency and won't release the brake until the train is stationary. Should any of these events occur, then the OTDR will automatically notify the duty control manager and to clarify, at no point were any of the posted speed limits exceeded - The speed of the train is closely monitored via the on board data recorder which is linked to the control center via GSMR and has GPS monitoring capabilities too.
..o' ryte...cheers mate...so its a 60 most of the way then along the S&C....it just made me wonder ac bit..as when I 've been along there..which was on Loco Hauled trains...with either 31 's or 47 's...had them both....seemed to be a much slower ride..probly courtessy of the driver..so that everyone can see more of the scenery....I believe all passenger trains are DMU " 158 ' units..nowadays..!!! :)
+Steve Wyman It used to be a lot slower back in the loco hauled days, but originally the track was destined for 90mph running I'm led to believe. 158/153 combos seem to be the staple traction up and down here these days - a shame there are no more T&T 37's with 2d stock!
Why are the headlights on the engine non-existent? In Canada there are two ditch-lights plus another centre light which provide excellent visibility. Hurtling through those tunnels at 70 mph in pitch blackness,is an uncomfortable sensation! Excellent video!
Hi Martin It was filmed 1 week before the line closed due to the landslide. I was the last freight train to work over prior to closure as far as I know.
Steaky Westinghouse Great video very impressed with it. So impressed that I am wanting to do a drivers eye view documentary between Carlisle and Skipton (or Leeds) over the Settle and Carlisle line doing a narration on the history and present facts of the railway. As your videos already show the majority of the route between the two destination I wanted to ask if it was possible to use your videos to make the drivers eye view documentary? The video will also include shots by the side of the railway, on the train and at stations. Your name will be featured within the credits if you allow me to use your videos and also put a link in to your channel. It is of course your choice but it would be a great opportunity to do. I am an amateur film marker who does this as my hobby and would use this video for personal use. Let me know ☺️
Hi. The village itself is called South Milford, in North Yorkshire, about 15 miles east of Leeds. The name should appear dead centre of this map.www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7839129,-1.197817,11z?hl=en
Joe Ritchie A snow plough. That particular one was made using a class 40 bogie with the pony wheel removed and extra ballast added for weight and brake force.
I think this will go down as one of the best S&C videos. Well done. Out of curiosity, what happened at 1:41:46 and at 2:53:35? The action jumps about 30ft on both occasions. 13/7/20 - I had a 2nd viewing today, and still consider this to be in the top three S&C cab rides.
Stubborn bkoody raindrop!
This is a wonderful line. The engineering of this line is something to behold, considering the era in which it was built. When you consider that this line, along with many others, was completed back in the late 1880"s, the work on this line is outstanding.
I had read about this line so back in the early 80's, while on vacation I purposely took a trip from Newcastle to London via Carlisle, the Settle to Carlisle line, Leeds, York then London. The trip took the best part of a day, but was well worth it. I was on a BritRail pass which allowed me great freedom of travel.
I vividly remember the trip from Carlisle to Settle and on to Leeds. It was a real train consisting of a diesel electric loco and a string of carriages; passengers consisted of people like myself, heads and cameras sticking out of any open window, and regular passengers trying to stay warm because we railfans where letting in the cold September weather. At Leeds I waited for a train to York, then took the HST125 service to London. Due to lack of research on my part, I regret not travelling down to London on the more direct line from Leeds to London on the Midland Rail route. It is a trip that I fondly remember about 40 years later!
"descent" is the correct spelling for the word in the third paragraph of the description.
Thanks for sharing the video, BTW. I really enjoyed going along for the ride.
Got to love that English countryside!
What a wonderful escape from lockdown! So many memories of this wonderful line and countryside. Thank you.
Glad to be of some help David - It was a pleasure to drive over the S&C when I was on freight trains.
Love that sound when climbing hard thru' Birketts Tunnel
Brilliant, fantastic, wonderful, honestly, But that bloody rain drop on the window from 2hrs in for almost 35mins, did take the edge of a bit. loved the scenery as well, would of been so good on a sunny day, well done.
ABSOLUTELY / RUINED THE RUN 4 THAT STRETCH
Fantastic video. I sat and watched all of it in one go.
The S&C really is a very scenic route.
beautifully done, and to think they wanted to demolish this incredible line. Even on a foul day, you cannot help but be thrilled by its dramatic and wild nature, that's the magic railways have, and you've captured that well here. I'm not as enthused by cars, but nothing makes me happier than to sit behind the cab controls in my simulator.
Love listening to this at night - really relaxing and hypnotic. Looks great too!
The rythmical rocking and sound of the V12 engine was also a nightmare if I was tired, it was almost induced a trance like state of sleepiness when sitting in loops waiting time etc.
Steaky Westinghouse I can imagine it was pretty soporific with the vibration as well. A real hazard of the job. I understand the noise levels are quite high, so that in itself is quite exhausting.
Great video to enjoy from others like myself across the world from the USA to see the great views and wonders of Europe country
Welcome to the UK rail scene (or what's left of it!)
@@WestinghouseProductions thank you!!
Once again fantastic video footage, I've been down this line many times but never like this, this would have been a trainspotters dream back in my day.
Brilliant. Fantastic video. A route i have driven many times before, but many years ago. So many changes. Again, brilliant and thanks for sharing.
Superb - thank you very much. That water droplet was a real Klingon. I'm amazed it stayed intact for so long. Perfectly placed too.
Strategically annoying water droplet! Glad you enjoyed the video!
I can't get over the amount of litter along the line-side near the towns....Carlisle in particular.
Loved it Steaky, thanks for sharing. Some people want jam on it!
Fantastic video, shame about it ending in darkness. Keep them coming, would love to see more.
Nice touch with the water drop on the windshield that gave advance warning of the colors of the lights.
Super video, capturing my home county beautifully. Just needs a few location captions and a shammy leather for that blob!
Brill cab ride, pity we were not told WHERE we were, now and then,
Great video Paul, thanks for sharing. was having a look to see what the Settle to Carlisle line was like compared to my route on Train Simulator 2017. and it's very accurate. really enjoyed watching this.
I would have said that the S&C on this video was even more accurate than Train Simulator!
@@whigwood Hahaha, Yeah I think I picked my words wrong but you get my drift :-)
Very pro job up front against some questional signal operations/sitings. What a path to have to run!
Thanks for this great video! I volunteer on the S&C and travel on it everyday so it's nice to see a different perspective like this. I was probably on that 4 car 158 that passed! :)
Great fun following the route on the railcam diagram. Thank you.
just watched all the way through and have to say it was very enjoyable to see your pov and the route was stunning.
Cheers Kevin. The S&C was one of my favourite routes to drive. Unfortunately this trip was the last time I will ever do it again for the gorse able future.
i bet traveling that slowly, was a new experience for you, but, it gave us plenty of time to see the scenery
Many thanks for this. In terms of resolution and correct exposure, the best I have ever seen. I am impressed that you have put it out on You Tube, rather than trying to commercialise it. Puts my own efforts of 1983 to shame, though to be fair, I could not have done better with the technology then available. Regards, Alan Frizzell.
Cheers Alan - I had thought about it, as the version on my computer is super high-res compared to the diminishing video quality of RUclips and it's up-loader that ruins the quality.
I might put it out on DVD at some point :)
Hi Paul - Let me know if you do, as I would want the dvd. Regards, Alan.
This is a great video showing the settle & Carlisle line from one of my favourite locos with a very professional driver at the controls 👌 keep up the good work 👍
Cheers Paul, appreciate the compliments. It's been around 5 years since I last drove over there and that video was my last driving turn on the S&C before we lost our coal flows for good. With that, and loss of other work, I had to return to passenger train work. But with current Covid-19 stuff going on, I'm just happy to have a job and one that is required to play a part in helping keep the country moving.
Stay safe!!
thank you for uploading this vid i realy enjoyed watching it
Strangely mesmerising
Of all of the S&C cab videos I've seen over the years, this was the best. Superb sound as well. Only criticism, station name graphics would have added a lot.
Yes I agree. Because the light is getting low, the camera is using a long shutter speed so the station names on the name boards are too blurred to read.
excellent cab ride. Well done beautiful sound.
Fantastic video!
Thanks a lot. I live in Leeds, and this was the first time I've ever 'been' along the Leeds avoiding line, whatever it's called. Btw, all that way through glorious scenery, only to end up at a wet South Milford in the dark. You must love your job!
brilliant video thank-you for sharing
Nice video.Enjoy it thanks
Wow lots of view
Thank you that was a great ride. I appreciate the upload. Must have been quite large.
I see Whitehall junction hasn’t changed since 1999/2000. Notorious for holding freight there. I did notice a new station near Kirkstall loops. Tell A Lees, A Prentice and T Khaler I’m asking for them. Good video by the way. 👍
Heres's a list of localities and timepoints in .srt format:
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Number 9 reception in the Down yard at Carlisle Kingmoor.
2
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Kingmoor Road
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00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,375
Etterby Road
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00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,375
River Eden
5
00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:50,375
River Caldew
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00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,375
A595
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00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,375
Carlisle Goods B line
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00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,375
London Road Junction
9
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:10,375
London Road
10
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:15,375
Petteril Bridge Junction
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00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,375
Settle and Carlisle Line
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00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,375
M6 Motorway
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00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,375
[Cumwhinton]
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00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,375
High Stand Gill bridge
15
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,375
Armathwaite
16
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:16,375
Armathwaite Tunnel (297m)
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00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:12,375
Baron Wood Tunnel No. 2 (230m)
18
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:38,375
Baron Wood Tunnel No. 1 (189m)
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00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:14,375
Lazonby and Kirkoswald
20
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:32,375
Lazonby Tunnel (91m)
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00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:12,375
[Little Salkeld]
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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:48,375
Langwathby
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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:32,375
Waste Bank Tunnel (150m)
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00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:54,375
Culgaith Tunnel (604m)
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01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:29,375
[Culgaith]
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01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:54,375
[New Biggin]
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01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:16,375
Junction to British Gypsum Works, Kirkby Thore
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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:16,375
[Long Marton]
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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,375
A66 underpass
29
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:18,375
Appleby
30
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:17,375
Ormside Viaduct (183m)
31
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:55,375
[Ormside]
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01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:24,375
Helm Tunnel (522m)
33
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:58,375
[Crosby Garrett]
34
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:39,375
Crosby Garrett Tunnel (166m)
35
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:64,375
Smardale Viaduct (217m)
36
01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:09,375
Kirkby Stephen
37
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:57,375
Birkett Tunnel (388m)
38
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:49,375
Shotlock Hill Tunnel (97m)
39
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:07,375
Moorcock Tunnel (97m)
41
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:36,375
Moorcock Viaduct (208m)
42
01:35:18,440 --> 01:35:27,375
Garsdale
43
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:23,375
Rise Hill Tunnel (1109m)
44
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:37,375
Dent
45
01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:59,375
Artengill Viaduct (201m)
46
01:43:56,440 --> 01:43:64,375
Dent Head Viaduct (182m)
47
01:44:26,440 --> 01:44:39,375
Blea Moor Tunnel (2404m)
48
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:25,375
Blea Moor Signal Box
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01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:10,375
Ribblehead Viaduct (402m)
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01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:36,375
Ribblehead
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01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:50,375
Horton-in-Ribblesdale
54
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:49,375
Stainforth Tunnel (110m)
55
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:18,375
Settle
56
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:29,375
Settle Junction (Leeds-Morecambe Line)
56
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:58,375
Long Preston
57
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:18,375
Helifield
58
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:54,375
Gargrave
59
02:24:19,440 --> 02:24:27,375
Skipton
60
02:26:06,440 --> 02:26:15,375
A629 bridge
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02:30:05,440 --> 02:30:13,375
Cononley
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02:34:50,440 --> 02:34:60,375
Steeton and Silsden
63
02:40:35,440 --> 02:40:44,375
Keighley
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02:45:42,440 --> 02:45:49,375
Crossflatts
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02:47:19,440 --> 02:47:29,375
Bingley
66
02:47:31,440 --> 02:47:39,375
Bingley Tunnel
67
02:52:47,440 --> 02:52:56,375
Saltaire
68
02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:34,375
Shipley
69
02:57:04,440 --> 02:57:11,375
Thackley Tunnel
70
02:58:31,440 --> 02:58:38,375
Apperley Bridge
71
03:01:37,440 --> 03:01:45,375
Kirkstall Forge
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03:10:09,440 --> 03:10:19,375
Whitehall Junction
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03:20:26,440 --> 03:20:33,375
Woodlesford
74
03:28:05,440 --> 03:28:13,375
Castleford
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03:39:20,440 --> 03:39:33,375
South Milford sidings
Superb. Thank you.
Brilliant film. Had to keep up on a OS map (Viewranger app) all the way!
This shows the damage done to the line after the winter floods. The section at 32.30-33.30 is the start of the landslide at Eden Brows where half a million tons of earth is being moved. 39.48-39.55 is a landslide that took out part of the wing wall of a bridge and the section at 43.45-43.55 is another landslide in Baron Wood.
The latter two have since been sorted out, but the Eden Brows work is still very much ongoing. The top layers of the slip site have been dug out & removed and preparatory work for 220+ steel & concrete piles to be driven is close to completion. Once the piles are in, a 100m concrete platform will be built to sit on top of the piles and the trackbed reinstated on top of that . A seriously major bit of civil engineering!
Work's now in full swing to sort the Eden Brows problem - 220 steel-lined concrete piles are being driven into the bedrock below the formation to provide the support for a 100m concrete platform (essentially a big slab) upon which the track will be relaid. That'll ensure the track bed remains stable even if the bank moves again Line's due to reopen on 31 March 2017.
Great ride out.🥰.
BUT... Would have been oh so much better if you'd labelled the destinations for the tracks coming in and out, left and right, stations, tunnels, bridges (or rivers) etc etc.
I didn't notice the steam trains at Keighley.! Or, did we not pass through there.?🤔?
Knowing where I was would have been brilliant, and learning a bit along the way would have been great also.
Maybe next time eh.!🤔🤔!.
Rich 🥰🥰🥰
The video is clearly midwinter, and more than likely midweek too. So why should there be steam trains at Keighley? They're all tucked up in their shed at Haworth.
What a pity we could not see Ingleborough in its glory. But what an immense amount of 5 repair and reconstruction between Carlisle and Garsdale. There were at least 3 slacks of
5 m.p.h. and a slip just created before Garsdale. Rock and netting protection were evident in abundance. It must be a most expensive stretch to maintain. A good Pennine rainy day well portrayed
Most of the TSRs have been cleared now, other than the big one at Eden Brows. That's due to be finished at the end of March 2017 (the piling work for the support slab is under way at the moment).
Ad captions and you have a winner
Just love Cumbria and N Yorks.
To think they nearly shut this line under Beeching. It is underused but was once a main line between Scotland and Yorkshire.
Although I hardly recognize it in the dark, I don't miss doing points maintenance at Milford! Driving up from London and staying in a hotel to maintain a few sets lol
Nice video!
A great video slightly spoilt by the water spot signal aspect colour multiplier!
I often visit my birth town, Carlisle. but have lived most of my life in Croydon, Orpington and now Paddock Wood (the Colonels first RE job).
I got a little lost in the dusk East of Leeds where I've only visited twice, once by rail via Doncaster and Wakefield en route to Bradford to investigate and organise repairs to the leaky bus deck of the Interchange. and the second by car to the Highway Agency's office outside City station.
I assume engine shed junction is Holbeck and the route to Castleford is via Addlesford (I can't read other station names on the video) and note Fairburn is just east of Castleford but can't find Milford west sidings, there's a MIlford much further north? The lapsed times seem longer than the distance on Google maps.
Help please
You've still got multiple routes, we lost the Colonels branch to Hawkhurst pre-Beeching!
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Would love to be a train driver. Looks amazing.
Lived up near Kendal around that time, very wet winter...
loved it more please
BIG TONE Cheers. I've uploaded another video with the route from Gascogne Wood (ex Selby mine) to Drax power station. Worth a watch as that has some stuff that's now vanished forever too.
Very good, pity no info, i.e. those remote station, viaducts etc.
Spectacular ride!
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yorkshire is a very beautiful county, even when its wet, or maybe i'm slightly biased ;)
Correction. Yorkshire is a very beautiful *country*, I think you meant to say. 8D
no. He meant to say county.
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Here in the UK (and Australia), this will overhaul the national haulage too. If the weight and density of the battery is to be expected, then this will create mass adoption especially here with diesel prices being astronomical high. Saw one of artics fuelling up from a quarter of a tank to full for £500 which is mental
Goodness, thats a long ride
bit faster and you will be able to overtake that raindrop
and i will just keep hangin on
Magic ----- never mind the spelling!
i bet this what drivers of the past remember ,no overhead wires, no 3rd rail, no signal ping every few seconds , just bare bone track.
I was a fireman at kingmoor carlisle and have many happy memories of the carlisle settle line like in winter battleing through snow drifts from kirby stephen to blea moor and in summer seeing the farmers makeing hay yes the steam days were the best
@@tomhind266d6 I was a fireman at Bradford, Manningham up to closure in April 1967.
Did you ever work the Carlisle to Bradford all station stoppers with the "Clans"?
A most excellent video. Ridden it a few times in the train but never in the best seat in the house, the cab. Well done. GoPro camera I guess?
Great video!!! Thank you for posting. Curious as to the name of the first signal box noticed at 28:17. Couldn't read the station sign board on the front of the building.
Paul Thompson Cheers for the compliments. The signal box is "Howe & Co Sidings"
Howe & Co's Sidings, which is the fringe box to Carlisle PSB
Hi! Have you given up filming train cab ride videos ? Wish not, but regards, Dana.
Excellent! Thank you :)
Superb Video! as a school boy used to (very quietly) get footplate rides on steam engines on the S & C, it has been a long time since I have been on that line but not much seems to have changed. Did I notice access lines still to Upperby MPD (12B)?
it says whistle, but i cant see a reason for it ? their all, a long way, before any crossing point, 26 : 59 28 : 35 31 : 31 unless its because the train is traveling slower than usual, it didnt whistle when going through tunnels, how can he be sure that nobody has wandered into them ? it could get very messy
That 5mph slack by what I assume to be the location of the landslide where the NR man was...sod that!
1:49:03. Ribblehead Viaduct
..where is it..that the S & C joins " WIRED " Tracks..@ 2:19:23..at the southern end of the route...as I dont seem to recognise this part..have we joined another route here....as from here onwards it appears to be a wee bit too " mod' Tech "..as opposed to the more traditional scene of the S& C..railway..??
Skipton North Junction is where we enter the wired area, and we stay under the wires right until Whitehall East Junction at Leeds.
o' ryte...I wasn't familliar with it...as it probbly wasnt wired..when I was riding it, back in mid to late 80's..
At 19 minutes into the video there train is halted outside Carlisle. At the bottom of the signal head there is a sign. It is a white 'squashed' hexagon with a black X in it. Can anybody tell me what it means, please?lovely video.
Hi Russel.
It is to advise the driver that the signal post telephone associated with that signal is limited clearance and should only be used in an emergency. We very rarely use the SPT now since we have GSM-R in cab telephone radios to contact the signaller with.
Many thanks Paul. I've recently added this symbol to a signal gantry on my model railway, but couldn't find its meaning anywhere. Thanks again.
Is that a mechanically-operated junction at 28 minutes in? I wouldn't think you'd see something like that in 2016.
It is yes, it's "Howe & Co" Signal box, it used to previously serve private sidings for Howe & Co industrial. Now it is merely a block box to seperate between Culgaith and Carlisle signal boxes.
whats the station with the zig-zag platform ? , early on in video
Great stuff :-)
So many miles go by without passing a signal ? How do they get away it? How would they stop train in an emergency if anything should go wrong?
By use of the GSMR onboard radio which has direct contact to the controlling signaller and other trains within the area.
Add captions and you have a winner.
Sitting for 35 minutes on the Up Shipley line outside Leeds seems daft, blocking a line (although you can see the 333s heading along the Up and Down Harrogate). Surely sitting in the Kirkstall Loops would have been better?
Ulleskelf It's not blocking a line there. The Up Shipley is nearly always used for pathing freight trains as it takes less time to bring the train to a stand there than slow to almost a stand before Kirkstall for the signal to get you in the up loop.
Thanks for that information, really interesting Paul Simon
Was it a reflection in the clouds or a flying soucer
They don't do reflections in Yorkshire, only flying saucers.
@@whigwoodand what of those mutilations to those poor animals minus mainly there private parts are they the work of aliens or locals 🤔
Any new videos possible in the near future, I hope? Regards, Dana.
Was this recorded before or after the closure? I recalled that 5mph crawl adjacent to a monster landslip. At one end there was an operative carefully watching you pass by.
I assume that if the train started to move sideways he was there to scream "JUMP"!
Joking apart, there was a lot of interesting content.
The last time I passed that way was behind a Class 47 before Portillo reprieved it.
the fish eye lens makes things look bent
I have asked repeatedly whether you might film more cab rides but you never replied. I would really appreciate a reply. Do you not film cab ride videos anymore ? Please, please respond! Thanks, Dana. :))))
2:13:05 ye can see ma house to right just....in trees yehaaaa
No lights on? in the tunnels, then in the evening? Headlight?
The issue is simply visibility of the train from the track. Perhaps it is important to remember that mainline train speeds are typically in the range of 85 to 125mph. This means that conventional headlights are completely useless for braking purposes, but high intensity markers may be of real value.
In your description you refer to Kristal. I think you mean Kirkstall - famous for its ruined abbey and its folk museum.
Lighting could have been better so I could see where we were going. Did get better when we realy got a move on. Only at times.
Auto-exposure on the Go-Pro wasn't playing ball I'm afraid.
What is the meaning of the Black T with the yellow background please?
End of temporary speed restriction.
Oh okay I thought that would be the case but was not absolutely clear, thanks for clearing that one up appreciate it.
Pedant mode- 'Termination' specifically .
Thanks
could do with the Carlisle avoiders coming back although coal traffic is now a far cry from a few years back.
With it´s numerous speed restictions, this once great route is now slowly falling apart. place names would have been nice too.
..yeh, thats an awesome ride..the S &C...done it quite a few times...in both directions....But jeese, this driver was really MOTORING along there...I would have said Technically probly exceeding the track speed limit.....as I thought the Track Speed was limited to around 50 mph..on this route...but he seemed to be bombing along there at about 75 + in places along the way.. ...!!! ..A good video though mate..
Hi Steve.
The permissible speed between Petteril Bridge Junction (just south of Carlisle Station) and Skipton is 60mph (With the exception of any ESR/TSR or PSR's). The permissible speed after Skipton increases to 90MPH, but the train is limited to 75mph at this point due to the maximum speed of the locomotive and the HTA wagons in tow. Should the locomotive speed increase to 77mph, then tractive power is automatically removed and if the speed then increases to 79mph then there is an automatic penalty brake application which applies the brake to emergency and won't release the brake until the train is stationary. Should any of these events occur, then the OTDR will automatically notify the duty control manager and to clarify, at no point were any of the posted speed limits exceeded - The speed of the train is closely monitored via the on board data recorder which is linked to the control center via GSMR and has GPS monitoring capabilities too.
..o' ryte...cheers mate...so its a 60 most of the way then along the S&C....it just made me wonder ac bit..as when I 've been along there..which was on Loco Hauled trains...with either 31 's or 47 's...had them both....seemed to be a much slower ride..probly courtessy of the driver..so that everyone can see more of the scenery....I believe all passenger trains are DMU " 158 ' units..nowadays..!!! :)
+Steve Wyman It used to be a lot slower back in the loco hauled days, but originally the track was destined for 90mph running I'm led to believe.
158/153 combos seem to be the staple traction up and down here these days - a shame there are no more T&T 37's with 2d stock!
yeh..
Wide angle lens makes the speed seem faster;telephoto lens makes the speed seem slower than actual speed,folks.joe
Why are the headlights on the engine non-existent? In Canada there are two ditch-lights plus another centre light which provide excellent visibility. Hurtling through those tunnels at 70 mph in pitch blackness,is an uncomfortable sensation! Excellent video!
Was this filmed close to the time of upload? I thought the S&C was closed at present due to a landslip. Great video though, a gorgeous run!
Though looking at the trees I think I can answer my own question on that one!
Hi Martin
It was filmed 1 week before the line closed due to the landslide. I was the last freight train to work over prior to closure as far as I know.
Steaky Westinghouse Great video very impressed with it. So impressed that I am wanting to do a drivers eye view documentary between Carlisle and Skipton (or Leeds) over the Settle and Carlisle line doing a narration on the history and present facts of the railway. As your videos already show the majority of the route between the two destination I wanted to ask if it was possible to use your videos to make the drivers eye view documentary? The video will also include shots by the side of the railway, on the train and at stations. Your name will be featured within the credits if you allow me to use your videos and also put a link in to your channel. It is of course your choice but it would be a great opportunity to do. I am an amateur film marker who does this as my hobby and would use this video for personal use. Let me know ☺️
Is your salary comparable to passenger train drivers?
The description fails to mention the plethora of TSRs on the S&C line...
There were quite a few!
Kromaatikse What's TSR?
Temporary Speed Restriction. They're marked by little yellow signs and extra AWS warnings.
it says june but looking at the trees it says winter or late autumn
The date I uploaded the video was June, the date it was filmed was January.
Where is Milford if I may ask?
Hi. The village itself is called South Milford, in North Yorkshire, about 15 miles east of Leeds. The name should appear dead centre of this map.www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7839129,-1.197817,11z?hl=en
To the end of the video, no electric line ? You are in Bangladesh ? 🤯
2:20:00
Whats that after the signal at 4:16 ?
Joe Ritchie A snow plough. That particular one was made using a class 40 bogie with the pony wheel removed and extra ballast added for weight and brake force.
Thanks Paul
I think this will go down as one of the best S&C videos. Well done. Out of curiosity, what happened at 1:41:46 and at 2:53:35? The action jumps about 30ft on both occasions.
13/7/20 - I had a 2nd viewing today, and still consider this to be in the top three S&C cab rides.
/ THE EFFING RAIN DROP WREKT THE RUN AFTER SETTLE. IT WAS A GREAT RUN PREVIOUS THEN RUINED