@Krondelo Torque is the twisting force of the tire. To find the force that the tire puts out, for example if there is 500 ft*lbs of torque at the rear axel and the tire has a 9" radius, the force that the tire can put down is 500*(9in/12)= 375lbs. Horsepower is the sum of torque supplied in a minute which also has to do with engine RPM, anyways the more torque an engine has the more force it has to break traction with the road and spin. V8's generally have high torque at low RPM and high RPM
+Bruck Antenhe the 5.7 v8 is from a Toyota tundra so yeah they kept it in the family. and why they chose a v8 was because of its length and power potential. being shorter then in inline 6 it kept a lot of weight off the front end, because of forumla D rules they can cut into the firewall so the opted for an engine that would sit as far back as possible to keep the weight balance as close to the center as possible
@graknor Your are right that the design is old and is not a high tech design in general, but the new technologies incorporated into the old designs are very cutting edge. so you are both right in some ways.
@tiger0tank One is the hand break. Extra large so they can lock up the rears on demand. Many exotics will have separate emergency brakes either a drum inside the disk or another caliper. In that instance is is to help keep the rear brakes from warping whne the e-break is set after a hard run.
True. I've seen pics of the Drift Yaris, but no vids yet. But what I'm saying is that early on it doesn't automatically register in my head to expect a FWD car to be converted into a drift car, or even RWD to begin with. Now something like a Genesis tuned to drift is quite obvious. I'm sure I'm not the only one that already knew that was gonna happen =)
More people use S15 in FD than you'd think, but in regards to using the cars you mentioned I imagine it being America, Toyota/Nissan/etc find it preferable to use cars in their current line to boost sales. They probably give a lot of support to those who use these cars like the tC/86/370z.
hi ,nice video ,just to let you know ive been drifting in jersey channel islands since i was 17 ,i started with a datsun 120y estate believe it or not ,,all i could afford at the time lol,,after that ive had hundreds of rear wheel cars to play with,and the best was my black rs cossie,bouley bay hill climb and the mont les vaux hill and most of the coast road ,,drifting is a way of life ,,even now im in scotland ,,ive had a 200sx welded dif etc ,,even at 42 im still drifting ,,always will,,
@Orangebike666 They are about to change back to the stock tC motor (2az motor) due to FD rule changes. Ken Gushi's tC is already running the factory tC motor. Boosted and making 600whp.
@eaglesdood16 there just double calipers, when your rear tyres are spinning with that much power you need as much brake as possible to break the traction so you can slide
It may not be a race car, but the new 2010s can do a 3rd gear burnout!!! wooo!!! Also, the body shape is very important to racing... Plus, I doubt the re-did the suspension geometry... I believe it has McPherson struts all around... I understand your comparison though!!!
@CKYgh0st actually the tC has the same chassis as the Toyota Avensis/Caldina which has a turbocharged AWD Wagon version, so it should have been easy to bolt a rear drive system to the tC.
@1jzdrift1 I gotta agree, but if anyone can do it in a car like this is him! Tanners ability to maneuver cars is insane! No disrespect towards Gushi, but look at the difference of drivers in similar frames and setups... I wish Tanner much luck and I know he'll get it down!
@orjantodd two runs one leads one follows the closer u are to the other car and clipping points determine's your points......hope that helps its a fun sport....
@FikriDragon ya, easy. here is a list of all the cars shown competing against Tanner. 2:34 on right AE86 Carola, 2:52 Pontiac Solstice, 4:37 on the other side of Tanner 3rd gen toyota supra, 4:38 on right nissan 350ZX.
one thing about this car is its been built into a drift car... they took it down to bare minimum then modified the chassis and rebuilt it into that monster of a car!!! compared to most drift cars that are simply modified without any real chassis modification other than a roll cage and weight reduction.
I may be a sucker for the little things but the u-turn he did at 3:13 made me smile. haha and at 4:49 with the attendant just sitting there scratching there head like a 3-ton car sliding around them was nothing haha
Harlemkid, the TC was designed to be appealing to the youth. So, they made it nice looking, underpowered, and cheap. Scion's new FR-S is their affordable sports car.
i love at the 4:50 mark he whips the car around that guy sitting in the road scratching his head and doesn't even acknowledge the car as it whips right around him.
this V8 has like a 9200rpm redline, shift RPM's at 8800rpm with a 4spd gear box, so they are going more for the high reving power vs low end torque.... the gearing was set perfect for him to shift it high instead of low. anyways though it is a TRD Phase-9 engine people, 5.9L with 5867cc's 516whp @ 8000rpm and 376ft-lbs @ 6600rpm with LS1 coils too, and a Supra rear sub frame. pretty interesting machine of you ask me. original plans were for a Chevy small block V8 and Z06 Transaxle.
Toyota has 3 V8s: 4.1 liter Lexus, been around since the 90s... 4.7 liter iForce, designed for the first generation Tundra/Sequoia/Lexus LX470... 5.7 liter iForce in the new fullsize Tundra the two larger engines have variable valve timing and tunable intake plenums.
@TUNDE88 They are making a new car that will be more focused on having a "lively rear end." It should be pretty good as they are basically designing that car to be kind of a stock drifter.
What's the car he bumps into? From the front, it kindda looks like some Nissan Z (350 or 370, can't tell with all the smoke and not brilliant video quality). Awesome video btw, thanks for uploading! Drifting ftw.
This car is converted to a 4wd by using V8 Toyota Nascar Truck engine. The stock 09 Scion tC is Front wheel drive turn in this a '09 Rockstar tC FD Car (AEM modified and Nascar powered).
So many cars are as dull as dishwater in standard form, and just cry out for modification. This one has just about the right level of modding for me. I would definitely be happy to pop down the shops in this one. ;-)
@WelshyKid01 It just increases the braking force beyond what any single caliper could do. I've seen triple caliper brakes before, but usually its just for show more than anything. Maybe it is something to do with the e-brake system?
no it doesnt matter who finishes first. its about style. one person is in front and the other is the chase car. when you watch formula drift you will see they never get overtaken
@bitumen83 one is for braking, and the other for handbrake..and because of electronic if anything goes wrong with brakes, because brake callipers don't depend one of each other, but separatly..handbrake you just pull (no electronic)..
Well I agree with you in a way, but still it makes it easier to drift you cant disagree on that. Anyway its a sport so doesnt matter how they do it at the end all sports make it easier by making there equipment a higher tech. Some will say old school is better some wont.
not about who finishes first. Its about who keeps the line the best with most speed, angle & smoke and who can trace that same line of the leader the best. you actually arent supposed to pass the leader unless he falls off the set line.
TRD Pase 9 V8 enigne , 5.9 Liter engine 5867 cc's with LS1 (Vette) coils for the Ignition system... original choice for the engine was to use a Chevy smalblock V8 with a Z06 transaxle, but that would have required an extensive amount of fabrication to the chasis, and they were on a time budget to have it preped for 09 FD... interesting design they did through out the whole car, from the engine and 4 speed tranny use to the Supra rear subframe..
@oopssorryy couple of things you're overlooking, if i may. japanese racing isn't mostly rallying, in fact it mostly isn't. there is quite a lot of circuit racing series (super GT, Formula Nippon) nearly all the cars in japan's Super GT championship run v8's. and Mitsubishi pulled out of rallying years ago, subaru stopped after the 2008 season. 3 different japanese makers have produced engines for Formula 1, from v10's and v12's to flat 12's to v8's now. they are not one-trick ponies.
@wkLeoTrooper depends on what kind of race the motor is set up for, doesnt matter if its a v8. for drag racing motors are built with cams that are configured for the top end hp autocross/drift motors are built to have a nice midrange hp its the cam that sets where the motor makes power, on low end, midrange, or top end american LSx v8 motors are amazing, GM motors, not ford motors, they make more power then any japaneese motor. though granted american car/body isnt that great.
Wished all tC's came with RWD
All? most consumers don't drift
FWD is superior for daily driving, RWD is too dangerous for public roads in my opinion.
Just buy a used FRS/BRZ/GT86 if you want an affordable RWD that is great to handle.
I wish the tc/zelas was available in the uk.
I dont even care about what wheels it puts power to.
If the tc was rwd it would be more of an 86 than the gt86
wow that TC looks beast with that widebody.
Lol, at that point it basically wasn't even a Tc outside of looks
One of the nicest tc's i ever seen
What is it with Americans and v8's everything seems as though it has to have one is it an inability to get power with anything else or what?
Because it's cheaper to do and easier to find v8s in the states.
Oh fair enough
Linear power delivery
@Krondelo Torque is the twisting force of the tire. To find the force that the tire puts out, for example if there is 500 ft*lbs of torque at the rear axel and the tire has a 9" radius, the force that the tire can put down is 500*(9in/12)= 375lbs. Horsepower is the sum of torque supplied in a minute which also has to do with engine RPM, anyways the more torque an engine has the more force it has to break traction with the road and spin. V8's generally have high torque at low RPM and high RPM
they should of put a 2jZgte in it "keep it in the family "
+Bruck Antenhe the 5.7 v8 is from a Toyota tundra so yeah they kept it in the family. and why they chose a v8 was because of its length and power potential. being shorter then in inline 6 it kept a lot of weight off the front end, because of forumla D rules they can cut into the firewall so the opted for an engine that would sit as far back as possible to keep the weight balance as close to the center as possible
Never thought a scion could look that good.
I may be a sucker for the little things but the u-turn he did at 3:13 made me smile.
@graknor Your are right that the design is old and is not a high tech design in general, but the new technologies incorporated into the old designs are very cutting edge. so you are both right in some ways.
Drifting..its beautiful to watch!
Tanner's a very technical guy, always speaks from a technique and skill view. great guy, funky car.
@tiger0tank One is the hand break. Extra large so they can lock up the rears on demand. Many exotics will have separate emergency brakes either a drum inside the disk or another caliper. In that instance is is to help keep the rear brakes from warping whne the e-break is set after a hard run.
Best looking car and best sounding car of the series.
Yes, one caliper is the rear brake as per the normal braking system and the other is for the handbrake/e-brake.
True. I've seen pics of the Drift Yaris, but no vids yet. But what I'm saying is that early on it doesn't automatically register in my head to expect a FWD car to be converted into a drift car, or even RWD to begin with. Now something like a Genesis tuned to drift is quite obvious. I'm sure I'm not the only one that already knew that was gonna happen =)
that tc scion is no joke that thing sounds evil and it's super loud
The stock Scion tC, for only $17500, is an amazing car! Have you ever even owned one?
More people use S15 in FD than you'd think, but in regards to using the cars you mentioned I imagine it being America, Toyota/Nissan/etc find it preferable to use cars in their current line to boost sales. They probably give a lot of support to those who use these cars like the tC/86/370z.
I never thought I would hear NASCAR and SCION in the same sentence... but it works.
I wish hoonigans could take a look at this car. I’d love to see how it’s built
hi ,nice video ,just to let you know ive been drifting in jersey channel islands since i was 17 ,i started with a datsun 120y estate believe it or not ,,all i could afford at the time lol,,after that ive had hundreds of rear wheel cars to play with,and the best was my black rs cossie,bouley bay hill climb and the mont les vaux hill and most of the coast road ,,drifting is a way of life ,,even now im in scotland ,,ive had a 200sx welded dif etc ,,even at 42 im still drifting ,,always will,,
@Orangebike666 They are about to change back to the stock tC motor (2az motor) due to FD rule changes. Ken Gushi's tC is already running the factory tC motor. Boosted and making 600whp.
that scion is sick. wow. i bet if it was made for racing, that thing would murder competition. sick.
@inuysha360 no one is saying they cant, but japaneese motors get swapped out too just makes it easier
@Alexandru017 It is not so much a challenge as it is too costly for practicality, but I see your point.
@eaglesdood16 there just double calipers, when your rear tyres are spinning with that much power you need as much brake as possible to break the traction so you can slide
Tanner fousts scion is the most beautiful drift car ive ever seen (in my opinion)
the best video I 've seen today
wow that car looks sick, I love it
@ANOTHERWORLDKREATION
I agree, a good use for the TRD V8. Not to mention it's fuel injection instead of the outdated NASCAR carburetor.
It may not be a race car, but the new 2010s can do a 3rd gear burnout!!! wooo!!!
Also, the body shape is very important to racing... Plus, I doubt the re-did the suspension geometry... I believe it has McPherson struts all around...
I understand your comparison though!!!
@CKYgh0st
actually the tC has the same chassis as the Toyota Avensis/Caldina which has a turbocharged AWD Wagon version, so it should have been easy to bolt a rear drive system to the tC.
I love Tanner Foust's show. Like "Supercars"
WANT WANT WANT!!! toyota greatness, it's even got supra heritage which is hella cool, wish i had a V8 in my MR2
@1jzdrift1 I gotta agree, but if anyone can do it in a car like this is him! Tanners ability to maneuver cars is insane! No disrespect towards Gushi, but look at the difference of drivers in similar frames and setups... I wish Tanner much luck and I know he'll get it down!
@Cognetto It's a Toyota built engine. The Toyota Tundra is a NASTruck.
@VeritasAlienari they just gived this car a new soul and desteny with this V8 baby.
@orjantodd two runs one leads one follows the closer u are to the other car and clipping points determine's your points......hope that helps its a fun sport....
@FikriDragon
ya, easy. here is a list of all the cars shown competing against Tanner.
2:34 on right AE86 Carola, 2:52 Pontiac Solstice, 4:37 on the other side of Tanner 3rd gen toyota supra, 4:38 on right nissan 350ZX.
one thing about this car is its been built into a drift car... they took it down to bare minimum then modified the chassis and rebuilt it into that monster of a car!!! compared to most drift cars that are simply modified without any real chassis modification other than a roll cage and weight reduction.
they do sometimes overtake, though its rare and normally in the last turn for extra points
Scion ROCKS!!!
I may be a sucker for the little things but the u-turn he did at 3:13 made me smile.
haha and at 4:49 with the attendant just sitting there scratching there head like a 3-ton car sliding around them was nothing haha
Harlemkid, the TC was designed to be appealing to the youth. So, they made it nice looking, underpowered, and cheap. Scion's new FR-S is their affordable sports car.
@showbutdonttell no but the TRD center for the nascar engines are in the usa
el drif es una modalidad es un deporte
especial para mi !!!k guayyyy!!!!
pure art
Hands down the sexiest Scion I've ever seen. Sexiest setup also. NASCAR V8 in a FWD to RWD conversion? Beautiful.
i love at the 4:50 mark he whips the car around that guy sitting in the road scratching his head and doesn't even acknowledge the car as it whips right around him.
First drifting Nascar lol. I have to love this!
this V8 has like a 9200rpm redline, shift RPM's at 8800rpm with a 4spd gear box, so they are going more for the high reving power vs low end torque.... the gearing was set perfect for him to shift it high instead of low.
anyways though it is a TRD Phase-9 engine people, 5.9L with 5867cc's 516whp @ 8000rpm and 376ft-lbs @ 6600rpm with LS1 coils too, and a Supra rear sub frame. pretty interesting machine of you ask me. original plans were for a Chevy small block V8 and Z06 Transaxle.
This car is a beast
:O he's still got it great drifting
this car sounds awesome
@madmanali93 no not at all! There used to be some noob saying this car was a Ford Fiesta, it was a small jibe :)
Toyota has 3 V8s:
4.1 liter Lexus, been around since the 90s...
4.7 liter iForce, designed for the first generation Tundra/Sequoia/Lexus LX470...
5.7 liter iForce in the new fullsize Tundra
the two larger engines have variable valve timing and tunable intake plenums.
I never thought a Scion would be drift car. Total surprise.
Maybe next year Foust will use an xB and call it "The Drift Box" lol
@TUNDE88 They are making a new car that will be more focused on having a "lively rear end."
It should be pretty good as they are basically designing that car to be kind of a stock drifter.
What's the car he bumps into? From the front, it kindda looks like some Nissan Z (350 or 370, can't tell with all the smoke and not brilliant video quality). Awesome video btw, thanks for uploading!
Drifting ftw.
@DerangerNO its a reinforced chassis... have u not seen touring cars they are exactly the same. stripped out and reinforced with a roll cage.
Haha at 4:50 when the guy sits there like "another day at the office" and tanner slides next to him.
yes, manual hydraulic piston operated. you can see it inside the car.
JIZZ! At 4:50 this guys had guts, scratching his head and taking the V8 600hp monster spin around him. DANG!
i love tanner, the way he drifts is so amazing
This car is converted to a 4wd by using V8 Toyota Nascar Truck engine. The stock 09 Scion tC is Front wheel drive turn in this a '09 Rockstar tC FD Car (AEM modified and Nascar powered).
cool toyota drift. can't wait to see how the ft-86 goes.
@GraphicFrost donuts are awesome
So many cars are as dull as dishwater in standard form, and just cry out for modification. This one has just about the right level of modding for me. I would definitely be happy to pop down the shops in this one. ;-)
@Hanpene 510-520whp @ 8000rpms I believe, and around 380 lb-ft tq @ 6000 rpms?? Somewhere around there.
That's freaking awesome!!!!!
@WelshyKid01 It just increases the braking force beyond what any single caliper could do. I've seen triple caliper brakes before, but usually its just for show more than anything. Maybe it is something to do with the e-brake system?
no it doesnt matter who finishes first. its about style. one person is in front and the other is the chase car. when you watch formula drift you will see they never get overtaken
@bitumen83 one is for braking, and the other for handbrake..and because of electronic if anything goes wrong with brakes, because brake callipers don't depend one of each other, but separatly..handbrake you just pull (no electronic)..
Well I agree with you in a way, but still it makes it easier to drift you cant disagree on that. Anyway its a sport so doesnt matter how they do it at the end all sports make it easier by making there equipment a higher tech. Some will say old school is better some wont.
that guy is living a dream.
this drift is the best!!!!
what kind of wheels? those are sick
not about who finishes first. Its about who keeps the line the best with most speed, angle & smoke and who can trace that same line of the leader the best. you actually arent supposed to pass the leader unless he falls off the set line.
@StaSuuu The brakes are Wilwood brakes ;)
I'd love to change the drive-train on MY tC. That is very cool
Haha! my personal team, what would I do without you guys :)
man i miss this car, its becuz of tanner and this car i got into cars in the first place
@pwnmepl0x all you need to do to skip adds is hit the reload button up top, works every time...
whats the name of that kit its amazing!!
i have always wondered where all the smoke comes from?! Is it from the tyres?
tanner foust is my hero
TRD Pase 9 V8 enigne , 5.9 Liter engine 5867 cc's with LS1 (Vette) coils for the Ignition system...
original choice for the engine was to use a Chevy smalblock V8 with a Z06 transaxle, but that would have required an extensive amount of fabrication to the chasis, and they were on a time budget to have it preped for 09 FD... interesting design they did through out the whole car, from the engine and 4 speed tranny use to the Supra rear subframe..
Nice car controll :)
@danelio Aah okay thanks for pointing that out. It's always nice to learn something new. :)
papadakis isnt new to the FWD RWD conversion. he used to have a civic from AEM yrs ago. you have to change the motor to do that right?
Sick ass j-turn at 4:50
nice solstice. finally a solstice that makes me stare ^^
love this car! with the pivot point more up front yea it swings more and looks REAL nice
@oopssorryy
couple of things you're overlooking, if i may. japanese racing isn't mostly rallying, in fact it mostly isn't. there is quite a lot of circuit racing series (super GT, Formula Nippon) nearly all the cars in japan's Super GT championship run v8's. and Mitsubishi pulled out of rallying years ago, subaru stopped after the 2008 season.
3 different japanese makers have produced engines for Formula 1, from v10's and v12's to flat 12's to v8's now.
they are not one-trick ponies.
@Sasori327 No, because they would sell a lot of them. Drifting in your daily driver is asking for trouble.
@wkLeoTrooper
depends on what kind of race the motor is set up for, doesnt matter if its a v8.
for drag racing motors are built with cams that are configured for the top end hp
autocross/drift motors are built to have a nice midrange hp
its the cam that sets where the motor makes power, on low end, midrange, or top end
american LSx v8 motors are amazing, GM motors, not ford motors, they make more power then any japaneese motor. though granted american car/body isnt that great.
awsome drift
@mindsmirror No, it wasn't me who said that. I guess I got confused. Of course this tC and the regular one are nothing alike.
awesome drift!!!!111