The upraised portion that raises B turret to super fire over A turret is called a Barbette. It’s the armored cylinder that supports the turret, absorbs whatever energy the hydraulic recoil mechanism doesn’t absorb from the gun blasts, and of course, protects the ever explosive shells and propellant powder bags while they are being transported up to the gun breeches.
In naval parlance, Bruno is a “super-firing” turret, because it fires over A (for Anton) turret. In the Royal Navy the turrets were labeled A, B, X, Y from front to back. The Kreigsmarine used A, B, C, and D (Caesar and Dora aft). It shouldn’t be too difficult to convert this to Turret Bruno on the Tirpitz, which had a nice splinter camo pattern. The Tirpitz turret had a quadruple 2cm anti-aircraft mount on its roof that would have to be added to the model.
@@dakel20 Google Shapeways click on the Shapeways 3d Printing services then at the bottom of their page there is contact info. If you find what you want the person that does the printing has contact info and you will have to ask about STLs. My guns were inexpensive. stay safe good luck Ralph
The 'Canvas Drums' would be Cable Reels for the stowage of the ships Berthing Hawsers when the ships at sea, the canvas cover would prevent exposure to sea spray which would cause them to rust and also improves the physical appearance of the Reels themselves. ( Big Ship 'Tiddliness ). Also you're right the Fixed structure is called the Barbette.
You know that Takom has too much time on their hands when they bring out the bow of the Yamato...the one with the Wave Motion Gun... Regarding the blast bags...why not scratch build something out of cloth so that it can elevate normally?
Of course, you can make them out of cloth, but they will not look real in this scale - the cloth is too light, there will be no sag, present in true canvas; the cloth texture will be too coarse (unless it is silk). And in the case of Yamato, there is some supporting "rib" inside the canvas over the barrel, that needs to be modelled.
That's exactly what I was thinking! This Model deserves to have movable Guns so you can display it properly. I'm pretty sure it could be done in this scale.
Wow! These models are gorgeous! But the guns have to move. C'mon! :) It can be done. As far as the blast bags, I think cloth could be supported from underneath. The guns are large enough to use a spring clamp and cage design to support the cloth. Then if you want to go to original blast bags, just unclamp them. It's a PITA but would look sweet with options. :)
Many years ago, some company did a model of a cross-section of the USS Constitution. How cool would a cross-section of the Bismark with turret be in 1/72...? YUGE!
OH NO ANDY IT IS NOT HAPPENING! I told my husband to order a PANTHER A after this morning's video; but not 2 in one day, mister! We're in Newberg, not far from your Portland Warehouse. We're hoping to come visit you sometime. My hubby, David so enjoys your videos. And now he's gotten hooked on your Cohort in Crime, Luka Cee. David's been doing models for 64 years. Oh boy!
I dont know if you have started to build the turret yet, but I have a thought on the blast bags in the gun barrels. If you were to wrap the blast bag, when assembled , with tissue paper to create a canvas textured finish it might look a little more realistic especially as you have the scale on your side. I have tried it o 1/35 scale helmets to create a canvas outer cover effect and it worked pretty well. By splitting the tissue paper into its layers and using something like mogpoge or clear varnish to apply a single layer with, it might just give it that some thing extra. You could try it on one of the blast bags you will not be using and see if it is worth the extra time.
I'd love to see a turned brass 15" shell to display next to it. Same in 18" for Yamato. A little surprising that plastic shells are not included in the kits.
The Bismarck's turret can be modelled without blastbags and this would be true. At least for the sea trials period, there are photos, showing the uncovered gun barrels. Thus, the guns can be made movable, although there's a catch both in Bismarck and Yamato turret kits - the barrel cross-section at the canvas covered part is thinner than it should be and this needs to be addressed somehow. Another thing is the absence of counterweight (maybe the barrels will stay elevated by themselves only by means of friction in the axles, but this needs to be checked).
May not be the right place for this, but I ordered the Bismarck and Yamato turrets yesterday and received them today. So much for A---n P--e. Thanks Andy, kits look awesome.
This kit would make a Great Diorama of Part of the Atlantic Wall (Norway coastline.) Which I think is still in place..! I think That would look the "Ducks Nuts.!" Gr8 preview Andy Thx..! Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
You could probably make your own blast bag. Like on the revell m41 walker bulldog, it gave you the option to heat the plastic bag for the parts into a blast bag on the turret that was actually moveable
I am going to get both and what I am going to do to “fix” the blast bag issue is use actual cloth treated to make it stiff. Attach it to the turret and barrel with leftover PE. I would really like to be able to move the barrels. I’ll probably make it so that Yamato’s turret is independent and Bruno’s barrels will move in tandem.
But the wreck pictures don't show any yellow on the smaller guns. One would have thought the yellow would be applied when leaving home port, save getting attack by home aircraft. Seems a bit odd to go far out to sea with yellow turrets. One suggestion it was painted on the run back to France, the job may not have been fully completed or simply washed off.
There's some evidence to suggest that the primary and secondary turret tops were painted yellow around the morning of 26th May, but not before then. This was the day before the ship was sunk and was to provide an air recognition symbol for the Luftwaffe as the ship neared the French coast and potential air cover. One version of the story goes that the paint on the secondary turrets was washed off almost as fast as it could be put on, but that the paint on the more elevated main turrets did stay on. Unfortunately as the main turrets are all embedded in the ocean floor upside down there's not been any possibility to confirm for certain one way or the other so for now it remains a possibility they were painted that way, not a certainty. Similarly, during the Baltic trials there's a strong possibility that at least at some point, even if only for a few days, the top of Bruno will have been painted red.
Andy. What about scratch building a couple of canvas bags for the blast bags? That would solve the problem you have encountered. Then there is the friction fit so as to let the barrels stay in place.
The friction isn't enough to keep the guns in elevation, I even tried a bit of glue but the gun barrels are just to heavy. I will attach a counter weight to the back of the barrels where the breech should be...
Hi Andy im building the bismarck battleship from Hachette lts 1/200 all metal hull those round pieces you pointed out are hose reels 2 either side of BRUNO in all there are 10(4 port 4 starboard plus 2 behind BRUNO on the superstructure deck hope this is helpful for you. John from australia...
I was watching on you tube a short film while ago which said that the top's of the main turret's were all painted in a yellow colour which i think would be nice to do on this kit.
So Andy that barrel looking piece that you didn't know what it was I believe that's supposed to be the primer charge and they would add add those and depending on how far the shell needs to be shot depending on how many primer charges they put behind the shell.
Am building it at the moment and oh boy the photo etch parts are really finicky, railings are super thin, almost like wire and some walkway parts are thick like the parts under the Yamato guns. Very hard to bend even with a bending tool. So improvising a bit and am on too painting and weathering. Still thinking if I would paint the wooden deck or leave it like it says in the manual. Does fit nice between the AK-130 and the Yamato turret based on size.
@@mrains100 If, big if, they ever offer it. I've got a resin kit of the USS Connecticut that is going to be the USS Vermont if and when I build it, just because I say so. There's likely some subtle differences but I'm not even going to check.
Have they come out with one from HMS Hood? That would be interesting to display them both together. Looks like an awesome kit and one on my to get list!
Quote “when you try to play with it” oh you are just a big kid! Great kit! How about some sort of flexible material, cloth? Foil? To make your own blast bags? Another top vid. One question why do peeps give these videos thumbs down, I don’t understand that, if you love modelling how can u possibly no love?
I am a huge fan of those usually, but in this case they really aren't necessary: The fit of the halves is excellent with just a tiny bit of sanding if you glue the halves slowly in shorter segments...
I'd paint mine yellow, I know its kind of just a rumor that the Bismarcks crew painted them yellow before her last battle, but I love the aesthetic of Luftwaffe yellow on a kriegsmarine ship
I'd make an attempt and fashioning flexible blastbags, because for me, mobility in a model is a REALLY big thing. So I need me so flexible blastbags for some posable guns
You could make flexible blast bags so the gun movement actually could be a thing for the display piece. Static sounds a bit boring and too easy, don't you think ;)
Mine is arriving tomorrow :-) I'm going to try to find away to make movable "blast bags" - those guns need to be movable!! Maybe paper bag material or bits of plastic bag will work...
Should do a version after one of Nelson's shells made the rear of this turret "exit stage right at high speed" as Drachinifel put it. Also records from Prince of Whales, and Prinz Eugen put Bismarck, and Hood firing at each other from around 19k yds. This would put Bismarck's guns at about a 14 degree elevation when the fatal shot was fired. Also I do believe Bismarck eventually ditched the blast bags at some point in her service. If you're ever interested Andy, go check out Drachinifel here on youtube for some good historical content regarding both Bismarck and Hood.
A small correction, if I may - it was HMS Rodney that engaged the Bismarck and destroyed the turret. Many years ago I worked with a man named Cecil Greenwood who served on Rodney throughout the war (having joined the navy in the 1930's to escape the law !) and actually witnessed the fatal shot - Rodney being only around 3,000 yards from Bismarck at that point. Because he was directly behind the shells he could see them in flight, and saw the shell strike Bruno between the guns, penetrate, and blow the turret's back out. His relief that the turret wasn't going to shoot again was tempered by the knowledge that he'd just seen a lot of young men blown to pieces.
Annnnnd... Ordered the Bruno. Now to wait for my FLHS to get my Yamato turret, and hope for a KGV or Nelson turret. That, and get my mitts on a display shelf solution. Oh, and I want to figure out fabric blast bags for these models...
3:00 One anticipates A and B turrets are similar. It would not be an impossibe leap to obtain 2 B's, make an A from one using your incredible modeling skills, and create a fore deck display. I bet you could pull it off.
The main difference other than Anton turret sitting at deck level rather than on a barbette is that Anton didn't have range finders unlike Bruno and the other two main turrets. So where these are on this kit the modeller would need to make up a couple of blanking plates. Apparently during early sea trials it was found that there was so much spray washing over the bow of the ship they wouldn't work, so they were removed.
@@alricdark correct but what I understood is that the range finder was damaged and would taken to long time to be repaired or replaced. It was never mentioned why it was damaged and there was thick hatches on both sides that opened or closed in order to protect but perhaps you correctly stated that it was damaged by too heavy waves. Do you have any links about this?
I dunno, with all respect, this kind of kit/subject should offer a transparent top option with gun breech, elevation/transverse, and shell loading type interior equipment. Just say’n. (B-T-W, in considering the physical size comparison, it should be noted that the HIJMS Yamato was a triple gun sized Turret, but the Bismark’s was turrets were only for a twin gun arrangement. )
Wow, that's a scale comparison of gunhouse to gunhouse. Wonder what the breeches of the Yamato were like inside the turret? For all the hype, the Bismarck class wasn't as much of a radical departure as Yamato was compared to other battleships. Heck, it even looks good as a starship...
Great review I have both turrets (yet to build them) Don't quote me on this but I am pretty sure those two round cavasy things are part of the fire fighting system. If you look at pics of the bismarck they are a lot of them. Keep the content coming mate...
Apparently women handkerchiefs make perfect cloth blast-bags, you can easily find right color and have movable cannon with realistic looking blast-bag :)
Wow, beautiful kit. I felt in love. I will probably buy both bismarck and yamato turrets. Are you going to film the process of building and painting this kit for RUclips?
@@StickTheGlue HMS King George turrert would be good as it could be either king George or Prince of Wales and a turret from HMS Rodney would go quite nicely.
Pity there are no 72nd scale German and Japanese sailor figurines in the after sale market and the model have no internal details. I would have loved to make a diorama with it.
Didn't Airfix made figures in scale 1/72 for dioramas like airports or servicing Spitfires years ago? It wouldn't be too difficult to transform them in sailors for Japanese Navy or German Navy. It is just an idea...
Revell Germany did make a set of German ship crew that I think would work fine, if you could find one, as they are out of production now. I found of couple, but the shipping was over $40.00.
They've missed a trick; they should have included all the shell handling stuff below the deck. I've seen a model of this and its is very interesting. Maybe scratch built?
The Trumpeter 1/200 scale Bismarck model comes with a seperate standalone cutaway model of one of the turrets with four deck levels below down to a magazine. This might be what you've seen.
Could you maybe build one of the Takom AMX-13's? I've seen that those kits are in high demand at the moment. (If you build the 105mm Dutch version, that'd be awesome ;) I can provide you with pictures from the museum where it's on display.) Greetings from the Netherlands
I don't think there's any clear evidence which turret was responsible for firing the actual shell(s) that sunk the Hood, although happy for someone to comment if wrong. From a model making perspective, Bruno or Caeser are simply more interesting as they are super firing turrets mounted on barbettes with more interesting duct and platform detail than the deck level turrets.
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The upraised portion that raises B turret to super fire over A turret is called a Barbette.
It’s the armored cylinder that supports the turret, absorbs whatever energy the hydraulic recoil mechanism doesn’t absorb from the gun blasts, and of course, protects the ever explosive shells and propellant powder bags while they are being transported up to the gun breeches.
I want a four barreled Prince of Wales turret next.
Yeah, that's what I thought as well :) And the barrels can be left moveable, because KGV class did not use blastbags.
Couldn't tempt you with the 15-inch gun turret of Hood or Warspite? Or a Nelson triple?
@@gleggett3817 not Yamato triple 18s :((
i realize it is kinda randomly asking but do anyone know of a good place to watch new movies online?
@Kameron Bryant i would suggest flixzone. Just google for it :)
In naval parlance, Bruno is a “super-firing” turret, because it fires over A (for Anton) turret. In the Royal Navy the turrets were labeled A, B, X, Y from front to back. The Kreigsmarine used A, B, C, and D (Caesar and Dora aft).
It shouldn’t be too difficult to convert this to Turret Bruno on the Tirpitz, which had a nice splinter camo pattern. The Tirpitz turret had a quadruple 2cm anti-aircraft mount on its roof that would have to be added to the model.
I bought my anti-aircraft guns for my Yamato from Shapeways
@@ralhmcc47 Ooooh... Got a name for where to buy? And if they might sell STLs.... I have my own resin printer.
@@dakel20 Google Shapeways click on the Shapeways 3d Printing services then at the bottom of their page there is contact info. If you find what you want the person that does the printing has contact info and you will have to ask about STLs. My guns were inexpensive. stay safe good luck Ralph
@@ralhmcc47 Will do that, uh what store did you get them from though? I seem to be coming up blank.
@@dakel20 Not a store but a website. Are you in the USA?
Turrets from Yamato, Bismarck, and next the Missouri... sounds great!
As everyone knows, Missouri loves company!
It would really be interesting if the Missouri turret was the B or C turret. That way you would get a 40mm quad turret on top of your turret.
The 'Canvas Drums' would be Cable Reels for the stowage of the ships Berthing Hawsers when the ships at sea, the canvas cover would prevent exposure to sea spray which would cause them to rust and also improves the physical appearance of the Reels themselves. ( Big Ship 'Tiddliness ). Also you're right the Fixed structure is called the Barbette.
You know that Takom has too much time on their hands when they bring out the bow of the Yamato...the one with the Wave Motion Gun...
Regarding the blast bags...why not scratch build something out of cloth so that it can elevate normally?
Of course, you can make them out of cloth, but they will not look real in this scale - the cloth is too light, there will be no sag, present in true canvas; the cloth texture will be too coarse (unless it is silk). And in the case of Yamato, there is some supporting "rib" inside the canvas over the barrel, that needs to be modelled.
That's exactly what I was thinking! This Model deserves to have movable Guns so you can display it properly. I'm pretty sure it could be done in this scale.
Wow! These models are gorgeous! But the guns have to move. C'mon! :) It can be done. As far as the blast bags, I think cloth could be supported from underneath. The guns are large enough to use a spring clamp and cage design to support the cloth. Then if you want to go to original blast bags, just unclamp them. It's a PITA but would look sweet with options. :)
I would like to see couple of 1/72nd scale figures included, to give a sense of size.
Many years ago, some company did a model of a cross-section of the USS Constitution. How cool would a cross-section of the Bismark with turret be in 1/72...? YUGE!
OH NO ANDY IT IS NOT HAPPENING! I told my husband to order a PANTHER A after this morning's video; but not 2 in one day, mister! We're in Newberg, not far from your Portland Warehouse. We're hoping to come visit you sometime. My hubby, David so enjoys your videos. And now he's gotten hooked on your Cohort in Crime, Luka Cee. David's been doing models for 64 years. Oh boy!
You could use the blast bag parts from the kit as patterns to make flexible ones from cloth or plastic sandwich bags.
I dont know if you have started to build the turret yet, but I have a thought on the blast bags in the gun barrels. If you were to wrap the blast bag, when assembled , with tissue paper to create a canvas textured finish it might look a little more realistic especially as you have the scale on your side. I have tried it o 1/35 scale helmets to create a canvas outer cover effect and it worked pretty well. By splitting the tissue paper into its layers and using something like mogpoge or clear varnish to apply a single layer with, it might just give it that some thing extra. You could try it on one of the blast bags you will not be using and see if it is worth the extra time.
Yeah, need the Arizona, Iowa or Missouri turret.
Also like to see the missile system autoloader from the USS KIDD (DDG-993)
Andy you're spoiling us with all these unboxings. :)
Very nice kits, for sure.
I wonder if they plan to also come out with these turrets with complete interior. That would truly be awesome.
Nobody noticed the Modeller's Creed: "A boy can dream, right? Thanks, Andy - Love your videos
I might be tempted to "scratchbuild" blast bags out of something like gray silk in order to keep the elevation function.
I think that's why Takom included the pivots, for modelers dedicated enough to do that.
I'd love to see a turned brass 15" shell to display next to it. Same in 18" for Yamato. A little surprising that plastic shells are not included in the kits.
oh yea ! turned brass ammo a barrels would be amazing
Yes, the small round covers are for fire control hoses or cable reels :-)
The Bismarck's turret can be modelled without blastbags and this would be true. At least for the sea trials period, there are photos, showing the uncovered gun barrels. Thus, the guns can be made movable, although there's a catch both in Bismarck and Yamato turret kits - the barrel cross-section at the canvas covered part is thinner than it should be and this needs to be addressed somehow. Another thing is the absence of counterweight (maybe the barrels will stay elevated by themselves only by means of friction in the axles, but this needs to be checked).
The barrels are very front-heavy so a counterweight needs to be added...
May not be the right place for this, but I ordered the Bismarck and Yamato turrets yesterday and received them today. So much for A---n P--e. Thanks Andy, kits look awesome.
Two reviews in one day!?!? Wow nice job Andy and nice kit!
This kit would make a Great Diorama of Part of the Atlantic Wall (Norway coastline.)
Which I think is still in place..!
I think That would look the "Ducks Nuts.!"
Gr8 preview Andy Thx..!
Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
You could probably make your own blast bag. Like on the revell m41 walker bulldog, it gave you the option to heat the plastic bag for the parts into a blast bag on the turret that was actually moveable
I am going to get both and what I am going to do to “fix” the blast bag issue is use actual cloth treated to make it stiff. Attach it to the turret and barrel with leftover PE. I would really like to be able to move the barrels. I’ll probably make it so that Yamato’s turret is independent and Bruno’s barrels will move in tandem.
That yellow paint is from when the Bismark sailed in to combat. And kept that colour until Bismark sunk
But the wreck pictures don't show any yellow on the smaller guns. One would have thought the yellow would be applied when leaving home port, save getting attack by home aircraft. Seems a bit odd to go far out to sea with yellow turrets. One suggestion it was painted on the run back to France, the job may not have been fully completed or simply washed off.
There's some evidence to suggest that the primary and secondary turret tops were painted yellow around the morning of 26th May, but not before then. This was the day before the ship was sunk and was to provide an air recognition symbol for the Luftwaffe as the ship neared the French coast and potential air cover. One version of the story goes that the paint on the secondary turrets was washed off almost as fast as it could be put on, but that the paint on the more elevated main turrets did stay on. Unfortunately as the main turrets are all embedded in the ocean floor upside down there's not been any possibility to confirm for certain one way or the other so for now it remains a possibility they were painted that way, not a certainty. Similarly, during the Baltic trials there's a strong possibility that at least at some point, even if only for a few days, the top of Bruno will have been painted red.
Andy. What about scratch building a couple of canvas bags for the blast bags? That would solve the problem you have encountered. Then there is the friction fit so as to let the barrels stay in place.
The friction isn't enough to keep the guns in elevation, I even tried a bit of glue but the gun barrels are just to heavy. I will attach a counter weight to the back of the barrels where the breech should be...
Possibly the turret from the U.S.S. Monitor?
Personally, I'm holding out for the 1/5th scale Tiger 1 Drive Sprocket model. Early or Late model, it doesn't matter.
LOL
Not Missouri class Iowa class.Missouri was apart of that iowa class.
Hi Andy im building the bismarck battleship from Hachette lts 1/200 all metal hull those round pieces you pointed out are hose reels 2 either side of BRUNO in all there are 10(4 port 4 starboard plus 2 behind BRUNO on the superstructure deck hope this is helpful for you. John from australia...
I was watching on you tube a short film while ago which said that the top's of the main turret's were all painted in a yellow colour which i think would be nice to do on this kit.
So Andy that barrel looking piece that you didn't know what it was I believe that's supposed to be the primer charge and they would add add those and depending on how far the shell needs to be shot depending on how many primer charges they put behind the shell.
The blast bags, could be made, scratchbuild from a simular fabric,(something we can find at home) so i can be done mouvable? Just a idea!!
Oh man. I love you're shop
I don't mean to be... mean, but what's the point of a model of a gun turret which only features the part above the deck?
Am building it at the moment and oh boy the photo etch parts are really finicky, railings are super thin, almost like wire and some walkway parts are thick like the parts under the Yamato guns. Very hard to bend even with a bending tool. So improvising a bit and am on too painting and weathering. Still thinking if I would paint the wooden deck or leave it like it says in the manual. Does fit nice between the AK-130 and the Yamato turret based on size.
Hope they release a Iowa class turret!
Andy mentioned the Missouri turret is in the making (and that is the same as the Iowa one)
Served on the Iowa. Hope they build a turret of the winner’s battleship. Not just the losers.
@@kevspss nice, in my 12th yr of service with the navy. Never had the pleasure of serving on any of the BB’s all retired before my time :(
Any news on that 1/16 Weisel?
Found a picture without the blastbags. That would solve the issue completely
Would you kindly provide the link? I can't find any pic w/o the bags...:-(
Cool. You have the turret, I am expecting the rest of the ship comes in parts too? ^_^
YES!!!!!!!! They needed to do an Iowa and the Arizona.
Don't forget the British, French, Italian battleships
I'd like to see the C turret from Arizona with a catapult and a Kingfisher.
Better yet Pennsylvania. She lived on to kill the enemy.
@@mrains100 Well, that would be exactly the same. That turret wouldn't even have the color coded top.
@@Mishn0 Correct...I will just pretend. Thanks.
@@mrains100 If, big if, they ever offer it. I've got a resin kit of the USS Connecticut that is going to be the USS Vermont if and when I build it, just because I say so. There's likely some subtle differences but I'm not even going to check.
Have they come out with one from HMS Hood? That would be interesting to display them both together. Looks like an awesome kit and one on my to get list!
Quote “when you try to play with it” oh you are just a big kid! Great kit! How about some sort of flexible material, cloth? Foil? To make your own blast bags?
Another top vid. One question why do peeps give these videos thumbs down, I don’t understand that, if you love modelling how can u possibly no love?
Just picked one up looks like it's going to be a fun build.
what if you make those blast bags out of real fabric? something thin, can it be done? in that way the guns could go up and down
Glad that they are planning to do the Missouri. Just think if they also do the British battleships “King George V” with four barrels.
Would be nice to see a HMS Hood turret to team up with Bismarck.
What about some turned Aluminium Barrels?
I am a huge fan of those usually, but in this case they really aren't necessary: The fit of the halves is excellent with just a tiny bit of sanding if you glue the halves slowly in shorter segments...
I'd paint mine yellow, I know its kind of just a rumor that the Bismarcks crew painted them yellow before her last battle, but I love the aesthetic of Luftwaffe yellow on a kriegsmarine ship
Thank you! Play with the models.... I am truly shocked!!!
A material that resembles scale canvas? To make your own blast bags with scale creases and droops?
I'd make an attempt and fashioning flexible blastbags, because for me, mobility in a model is a REALLY big thing. So I need me so flexible blastbags for some posable guns
You could make flexible blast bags so the gun movement actually could be a thing for the display piece. Static sounds a bit boring and too easy, don't you think ;)
Nice one I can't wait to see you build this one your last one was really good 👍
Mine is arriving tomorrow :-) I'm going to try to find away to make movable "blast bags" - those guns need to be movable!! Maybe paper bag material or bits of plastic bag will work...
Should do a version after one of Nelson's shells made the rear of this turret "exit stage right at high speed" as Drachinifel put it. Also records from Prince of Whales, and Prinz Eugen put Bismarck, and Hood firing at each other from around 19k yds. This would put Bismarck's guns at about a 14 degree elevation when the fatal shot was fired. Also I do believe Bismarck eventually ditched the blast bags at some point in her service. If you're ever interested Andy, go check out Drachinifel here on youtube for some good historical content regarding both Bismarck and Hood.
A small correction, if I may - it was HMS Rodney that engaged the Bismarck and destroyed the turret. Many years ago I worked with a man named Cecil Greenwood who served on Rodney throughout the war (having joined the navy in the 1930's to escape the law !) and actually witnessed the fatal shot - Rodney being only around 3,000 yards from Bismarck at that point. Because he was directly behind the shells he could see them in flight, and saw the shell strike Bruno between the guns, penetrate, and blow the turret's back out.
His relief that the turret wasn't going to shoot again was tempered by the knowledge that he'd just seen a lot of young men blown to pieces.
@@Kevin-mx1vi You're right, actually went back and re-watched Drachinifel's video about Op Rhein. Just forgot to correct it.
USS Missouri BB-63 is part of the IOWA class. other than that, I will get all 3 of them for display purposes :)
How to reproduce the cloth under the cannon? Im building 1 200 Scharnhorst.
You could make an action diorama wirh a Swordfish flying over the turret.
I want the whole ship in that scale
Can you imagine how huuuge she would be in this scale? 🤯
1:200 is already huge... but 1:72... 😳
@@asheer9114 it would be awesome
Annnnnd... Ordered the Bruno. Now to wait for my FLHS to get my Yamato turret, and hope for a KGV or Nelson turret. That, and get my mitts on a display shelf solution. Oh, and I want to figure out fabric blast bags for these models...
Now would'nt it be cool if they made a version with al the turret armour in clear plastic and a full interrior?
3:00 One anticipates A and B turrets are similar. It would not be an impossibe leap to obtain 2 B's, make an A from one using your incredible modeling skills, and create a fore deck display. I bet you could pull it off.
I think it could be a good idea but it would stretch the ability of an average modeler....
The main difference other than Anton turret sitting at deck level rather than on a barbette is that Anton didn't have range finders unlike Bruno and the other two main turrets. So where these are on this kit the modeller would need to make up a couple of blanking plates. Apparently during early sea trials it was found that there was so much spray washing over the bow of the ship they wouldn't work, so they were removed.
@@alricdark correct but what I understood is that the range finder was damaged and would taken to long time to be repaired or replaced. It was never mentioned why it was damaged and there was thick hatches on both sides that opened or closed in order to protect but perhaps you correctly stated that it was damaged by too heavy waves. Do you have any links about this?
I mean you could theoretically make your own blast bags too
i enjoy watching ur videos
Wow, now that's cool.................... 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Looked over your selection of 1/48 scale aircraft. Lots of eduard profipacks.....i likey lol
I dunno, with all respect, this kind of kit/subject should offer a transparent top option with gun breech, elevation/transverse, and shell loading type interior equipment. Just say’n.
(B-T-W, in considering the physical size comparison, it should be noted that the HIJMS Yamato was a triple gun sized Turret, but the Bismark’s was turrets were only for a twin gun arrangement. )
Great!
I wait when Takom make Bismarck and Yamato in 1/72 scale)))))))))))))))
Do you put your models on display at your store? If so that is a great way to inspire customers.
How long and how wide is the 72nd scale Bruno turret?
Try making the blast bag from cloth etc!
Wow, that's a scale comparison of gunhouse to gunhouse. Wonder what the breeches of the Yamato were like inside the turret?
For all the hype, the Bismarck class wasn't as much of a radical departure as Yamato was compared to other battleships. Heck, it even looks good as a starship...
i watched 2 youtube videos of how the yamato guns were fed and fired, animations, pretty cool. fairly complex machinery. search for them.
@@orbitalair2103 Will do, thank you!
Great review I have both turrets (yet to build them) Don't quote me on this but I am pretty sure those two round cavasy things are part of the fire fighting system. If you look at pics of the bismarck they are a lot of them. Keep the content coming mate...
Great review as always. Do you think the blast bags once made up could be interchangeable?
Yes easily; they slide on and can be interchanged
For those that want to see additional color schemes go to: Warship Pictorial #39 German Battleships 1939 - 1945
Hi Andy ... why don't you make your own from canvas or some material ... then u can move the turrets ... nice custom project ... :)
That's for the blast bags btw ...
Maybe they will introduce figures as well to give it more sense of scale
2 videos 1 day am I in heaven
if takom did hms hood turret to go along side bismarks bruno ,side by side it make a great display
Takom have done it again fantastic model what would be nice to have a gun from the hms hood nice video Andy Steve 🇬🇧
How long till we get the entire ship in 1/72?
Apparently women handkerchiefs make perfect cloth blast-bags, you can easily find right color and have movable cannon with realistic looking blast-bag :)
yellow top would be the paint she has when she was sunk
Boa tarde amigo, eu gostaria de saber se o senhor (sua loja) envia para o Brazil América do Sul?. Grato.
Wow, beautiful kit. I felt in love. I will probably buy both bismarck and yamato turrets. Are you going to film the process of building and painting this kit for RUclips?
can I get the rest of the battleship in this scale?
Tip top kit fingers crossed for a turret from HMS Hood.
And double fingers crossed for HMS King George V. But to be honest some cruisers wouldn't go a miss too I don't think
@@StickTheGlue HMS King George turrert would be good as it could be either king George or Prince of Wales and a turret from HMS Rodney would go quite nicely.
Hoping they do the Hood
Pity there are no 72nd scale German and Japanese sailor figurines in the after sale market and the model have no internal details. I would have loved to make a diorama with it.
Didn't Airfix made figures in scale 1/72 for dioramas like airports or servicing Spitfires years ago? It wouldn't be too difficult to transform them in sailors for Japanese Navy or German Navy. It is just an idea...
@@paoloviti6156 Thanks for the idea will look into it :)
Revell Germany did make a set of German ship crew that I think would work fine, if you could find one, as they are out of production now. I found of couple, but the shipping was over $40.00.
They've missed a trick; they should have included all the shell handling stuff below the deck. I've seen a model of this and its is very interesting. Maybe scratch built?
The Trumpeter 1/200 scale Bismarck model comes with a seperate standalone cutaway model of one of the turrets with four deck levels below down to a magazine. This might be what you've seen.
Why does it have so many paint options for an only one of a kind?
Are you going to be taking pre-orders for a future shipment? I would have ordered both kits that you just rolled out, but was too late.
If they make the whole superstructure, it would be amazing
how hard would it be to make cloth blast bags. Than you could have movable turret.
@Jonah Whale Just a thought. Thanks.
I'm going to try thin plastic bags (e.g. those for trash bins or sandwich bags)
@Jonah WhaleGood input, I thought about using silk, but now I'm going to try thin plastic bags (e.g. those for trash bins or sandwich bags)
Could you maybe build one of the Takom AMX-13's? I've seen that those kits are in high demand at the moment. (If you build the 105mm Dutch version, that'd be awesome ;) I can provide you with pictures from the museum where it's on display.) Greetings from the Netherlands
Is this out because it is the turret that fired the fatal shot that hit the Hood?
I don't think there's any clear evidence which turret was responsible for firing the actual shell(s) that sunk the Hood, although happy for someone to comment if wrong. From a model making perspective, Bruno or Caeser are simply more interesting as they are super firing turrets mounted on barbettes with more interesting duct and platform detail than the deck level turrets.
Someone needs to compile these turrets into a 1/72 full Ship build.