@@Richard-ug4el I didn't know, either. In my mind, he was always there making new stuff and wowing people. He was part of Star Trek, except he is real and not a character. I would happily give up 6 years of my life to give him 6 days more of life with people who love him. Really, truly. When I looked it up, it seemed so unfair. He is a beautiful, wonderful, much loved person robbed of life so young. I'm a largely ignored person without much value. Yea, I would be happy to give him more time alive by dying early if things like that worked...
I came back here after many, many years not having watched a Mythbusters show and damn, this is still the best show ever made! I didn't realized the void it left in me since it ended.
I got rid of cable in 2001, a couple of years before this show came out, so I've only seen a handful of episodes over the years. I agree, this is the best show. It nearly made me break down and call the cable company, but I wasn't going to pay all that money for just one show. I'm glad I finally get to watch more episodes.
I used to love it. But now I realize that the show is like 0.3% science and 99.7% entertainment. Screaming "SCIENCE!" every episode doesn't make it any more scientific. That episode about throwing like a girl is probably the best example of their idiotic pandering.
Seeing a lot of love for Grant is so nice. I really do ache everytime i remember hes gone. But also a huge RIP to Jess as well, who is in this episode. We miss both of you guys
Full seasons and episodes without having to pirate? Yes. Always a win. Taskmaster (UK TV show) release all their episodes on RUclips and their fan-base adore them for it. Keep uploading!!!
problem is those are geolocked. I'm in Australia and need to resort to Dailymotion. So even when they release episodes on youtube, people still need to pirate. Just think about that!
@@calumsanderson6741 You can just use a VPN to spoof your IP to make the site think you're in the UK, it's super easy, there's even good free ones you can use for it if that's all you want to do with it.
The US Navy Airship Akron disaster was way worse, where 73 souls perished and only 3 survivors. This happened in 1933, BEFORE Hindenburg. Just goes to show when the cameras are on you get more of an impact. Akron crashed in the middle of the ocean during a storm, and most of the crew survived the initial crash, but sadly drowned due to a lack of life jackets. Life jackets were mandatory after that.
Ships going down in a storm with all or most hands wasn't new or even particularly remarkable. That Akron was an airship rather than a sea going ship is perhaps the only remarkable thing about it. Hindeburg was remarkable in more ways than one. Which isn't to entirely discount the camera effect, but the camera effect wasn't the only reason.
@@spudgamer6049 I would argue the reason Akron was worse was because it had almost double the fatalities. Yet despite that, Akron isn’t a household name like Hindenburg. In fact, it’s likely most of the public haven’t heard of the Akron crash. I attribute Hindenburg’s infamy to the cameras and fact it was landing in a populated area. The general public sees the video and thinks “there’s no way anyone survived that” because of how quickly the fire spread and how quickly the airship burned. Akron was too low and, buffeted by a storm, impacted the ocean tail-first, and flopped down like a whale. The fact that it wasn’t as graphic makes it less infamous, despite the fact it was more deadly.
1:56 When they showed the footage, you can many silhouettes of people sprinting away. They were literally close to the windows and jumped out ran like hell.
That Alligator Farm employee should feel ashamed and disgusted about what he said to Kari. What a horrible predatory thing to say to a person on TV! Gross, gross, gross.
I mean it's hilarious. And he's a guy, who works around Crocs... flirting..... not doing a good job buuut he's trying. Not a predator, she's not underage. He's a guy. She's a girl, who's attractive.
The Hindenberg mythbust always bothered me. Not because the test was wrong, but because I'm 99% sure they got what the myth was completely wrong in the first place. I'd heard this myth before the show ran it. But I never heard anyone say that the hydrogen didn't burn. The theory was the the hydrogen wasn't what initiated the fire. That it was the doped skin that caught fire initially and then propergated to the hydrogen cells, rather than the fire starting because of a gas leak.
That part with the final welding on the model catching on fire could as easily be what happened. Someone was repairing something and initiated the fire that spreads across the skin and further fueld by the hydrogen. Even a doped skin would not combust spotaneously. One is for sure, someone messed up. Since everything in there seems highly flammable, a small mess up can obviously result in mess of flame.
I never saw this episode on TV, but it's definitely one of my favourites now. It's darkly hilarious to see Adam and Jamie testing one of the worst aviation disasters in history, then Tori juggling dead birds XD
one thing i think they needed to check was the material the gas cells were made from, and how flammable it was.. because it was made from "gelatinized cotton", a sandwhich of cotton cloth with layers of gelatin impregnated inside and inbetween them to make it airtight. both of which are fairly flammable and might have contributed to the spread of the fire.
I gotta appreciate how Adam wears a proper jacket while welding instead of short sleeves like everyone else seems to. Welding arcs produce intense UV-C radiation, which is a greater cancer risk than regular sunlight (which is filtered by the ozone layer).
I started woodworking and making props because of mythbustes:). Thanks to all those whom where apart of Mythbustes:) and now my two children are instead in making things and figuring out how things work.
Literally the 3 amigos side of this show is them always trying out a safe way, the safe way doesn't work, so tory ends up having to do something extremely dangerous for a shot. I mean, Grant and Kari have had to some crazy stuff too but it's usually tory
Exactly! When Jamie said "I think we need a third blimp" that's what I was expecting him to propose. If they made a blimp made with the same material as the Hindenburg, but with no dope painted on, and then filled with hydrogen, I feel like that would give us the most information on how much impact the hydrogen had.
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 I mean, as we saw with the welding scene, it still would have burned without the dope OR the hydrogen. So in order to best see how much impact each variable had on the burn rate of the Hindenburg, I honestly think they should have had 4 blimps to test (or 5 if they still wanted their silly thermite blimp). 1. Dope painted on and filled with hydrogen 2. Dope painted on and no hydrogen 3. No dope painted on and filled with hydrogen 4. No dope painted on and no hydrogen 5. Silly thermite blimp
The Hindenburg segment was, I think, the first Mythbusters segment I watched all the way through. Course, back then it was a bootleg upload, all low-res and probably mirrored. Great to see it officially.
They should have made 4, one that had no special coating at all and just used hydrogen. If that would have been almost as fast as the second test, the coating actually may haven't played any role at all.
I wonder if they would have been allowed to paint swastika's on the tail. The original Hindenburg did have those because it was in large part funded by the Nazi's and was a major propaganda machine for them. The reason they called it "Hindenburg" is to honor the late president Hindenburg cause there were still a lot of accusations going around that they betrayed him.
You can still draw a conclusion from the results, just not as good as it could’ve been. But bear in mind; it’s a discovery show, and they don’t have a laboratory. It’s ok if they don’t have science journal levels of data.
Mythbusters in 2071 Narrator: On this episode of Mythbusters: Adam and Jamie ignite an age old American debate. [Adam and Jamie looking at a diagram in the workshop] Narrator: Can ordinary jet fuel really melt through solid steel beams? [Glowing metal rod snapping suddenly] Adam: Wow! Narrator: They'll test if this Myth can stand the heat... [Adam filling up a gas can] Narrator: Or will it buckle under the pressure? [Scale model of the World Trade Center exploding violently] Adam and Jamie: Woah!
I know this is a joke…..but for 9-11 conspiracy people reading this , jet fuel can’t melt steel, but you know what it can do? Weaken metal (if some of you don’t know metal gets weaker as it gets hot) enough for it to become brittle or bend, and due to structural damage from a damn plane flying into it, after enough time the structure can’t hold its own weight (also look how it was built, a central core surrounded by thinner metal) then it collapses, so please do research before believing randoms online, and if you want to @ me please do it with actual credible science, sources and evidence, the term “looks like” is not an argument
27:14 I feel like the editor definitely left that in just so everyone could see this dude being a creep. Imagine if this guy somehow has a family, and they all sit down together to watch this episode premiere and see dad on TV Lol
question. I'm assuming that it wouldn't have made any difference with the burn. but at 23:11 "to match the original airship, the replicas will need aluminum frames" literally about 5 seconds later - 23:25 "they have about every gauge of steel that we need" were the replicas made of steel wire or aluminum?
That is a good question. When looking it up, it says the Hindenburg was made with an aluminum alloy called duralumin, and I highly doubt they'd be able to find someone just selling specifically duralumin wire. So it's not like they were able to make it with the same exact materials. My guess is they actually used steel wire, since that's what Jamie said, and maybe the narrator just misspoke. Or perhaps they were going to use aluminum wire, but changed their minds. I don't know much about welding, but maybe that had something to do with it. though I imagine if it was made with aluminum wire, it would be a lot lighter than 10lbs.
Never have I been so early to a new official channel. It's not even verified yet. I must let the Tested audience know by leaving a comment in whatever build tomorrow's video is. It's a strange thing seeing Adam with orange hair again.
Its not official. They didn't pay to copyright the name so the name "mythbusters" is free to use. This account is completely wrong in uploads. None of this is season 5, its season 4. My guess is to get around any claims of posting copyrighted material but its not an official discovery page
i have always wondered if the difference in the speed of the burn might have been that the hindenburg fell as it burned which means it kept falling into fresh unburnt air. The scale model didn't move at all and was in an enclosed space.
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 yes hydrogen is highly reactive but if hydrogen has reacted with the surrounding oxygen, it is now just a hot water cloud and the reaction would only continue at the speed at which unreacted oxygen can enter the area of the hydrogen. My theory is that if the vessel in which the hydrogen is contained in is actively moving towards more unreacted oxygen, it would accelerate the rate in which it burns. It's the difference between opening a window and opening a window, then putting a fan there as well.
My thoughts exactly. I saw the thick substance and I was like "yup glycerin". Potasium Permanganate and Glycerine react (redox) on their own as well so it basically functions as a starter at this point
@@cosminv8751 Adam commented this on his channel. He said he couldn't give people receipts for anything dangerous with ingredients you could easily find, because the authorities who were partners with the show (like the San Francisco LPD, their bomb squad, etc etc) forbid them from doing that.
I think it's more a liability thing than trying to hide the formula for dangerous stuff. Even if it's easy to learn the recipe for, say an explosive, you didn't learn it from MythBusters
Three things: I have always loved this show, and am glad to see it available here! I would've liked to see an alternative dope coated blimp w/ hydrogen "You make the prettiest noises!" Sheesh! Relax, my guy 😏
I've swam in rivers with Johnson crocodiles sitting on the other bank. They're pretty chill, mostly eat fish n birds, people are just way to big. Your little doggo however... Saltwater crocs on the other hand, they take down buffalo (yes, we have buffalo in Australia). Don't swim with them, you'll get eaten.
Here in Brazil we sometimes see caiman in rivers and lakes (even in larger cities sometimes, though they're rare), as long as you don't annoy them, they're generally not aggressive either... At least not the ones in most of the country, I've heard the huge ones in the Amazonic region in the north of the country can and will try to chase big things- including people. But for the broad-snout ones in most of the country? They're more of a risk to pet cats and small dogs than to people unless you do something stupid.
For anyone wondering what actually started the fire that burned down the Hindenburg, it was most likely a static discharge. All aircraft build up a considerable static charge when flying around. The blimp had gone through a lot of storm clouds which can increase the charge even more. Imagine shuffling your feet on a carpet while wearing socks only your feet are the size of a football stadium and you do it for several hours, and then you touch a doorknob in a room filled with hydrogen and the walls are painted in metal paint that burns at high temp.
It was for the camera, same with how he later said that if Cory got caught by the crocodile, he would put him out of his misery, and that his best recourse would be to lose consciousness quickly.
The Hindenburg was struck by lightning so perhaps the higher temperature of the strike was better at igniting than a throw away lighter? Crocs and gators can do an easy 30 mph - best way to escape is not to go near enough to one to be chased. The one croc ignored the quail due to its mouth being taped shut - it knows it can't bite so it doesn't waste time chasing something it can't bite. I had to remove a three footer that got into my pool and it fought tooth and nail until I got it's mouth taped, at which point it didn't even thrash anymore - the nephews were even able to hold and interact with it without issue. Large reptiles who are used to being hand fed tend to be VERY lazy. I've got an Argentine Tegu, Rexx, who's five feet long - he gets live rodents every once in a while as they're good for him, but he's too lazy to chase them - when they walk away from him he actually looks at me and indicates he wants me to bring his rodent back to him - that's the other benefit of giving him live rodents as they force him to chase and hunt them and thus get some exercise. That's also why you can't release animals like Rexx into the wild when your cute little six inch tegu turns into a twenty pound, five foot long apex predator - because that apex predator is too lazy to actually hunt for food and honestly doesn't even know how to once he does get hungry enough to decide to chase something.
What I think was missed in the scale testing here is that thermite has a very high ignition temperature which is probably also why the panel painted with thermite paste didn't go up straight away - the lighter wasn't hot enough. When I've seen thermite lit in experiments, it's been done with burning magnesium strip to ignite it, simply because it burns so hot and gets the thermite reaction going straight away.
@@Plasmastorm73_n5evv yes but when you have granules mixed up, that's going to be more insulating and you can reach ignition temperature more easily. With the cloth in the video laid out in a sheet in open air, the heat loss from the fuel will be far more significant - likely enough to carry away sufficient heat to not immediately ignite.
The biggest mystery about the Hindenburg is why people think it was one of the greatest disasters in aviation history. It was a bad day for those involved, but with a 60% survival rate, pretty much all other commercial plane disasters have been much worse.
A perspective I’ve seen online is that it caused a globel fear of blimps in general, which lead to the abandonment of future blimp projects due to general public apprehension.
@@andrewbakker7640 Yes, but the question is why. There's been hundreds of worse accidents since Hindenburg. The runway incursion at Tenerife in 1977 is the worst of all time in every possible way. On Hindenburg, there were 62 survivors and 36 deaths. At Tenerife, there were 61 survivors and 583 deaths and those were two fully fueled 747s, so the fireball was enormous. If that had happened to two zeppelins, they would simply have bounced off each other like inflatable canoes in the river. There would've been a mess in the restaurant and people would certainly have spilled their Martinis, but there's no chance that anyone would've died at all, unless they choked on an olive or something. The Hindenburg is actually a great success story, because even when the absolute worst thing imaginable happened, 60% survived.
@@s3dchr No, there are several bigger ones captured on camera. In Tenerife in 1977, two fully fueled 747s crashed on the runway. Much, much worse in every possible way and also more spctacular because it's a high speed collision with a following giantic fireball.
It kind of feels like they missed the intent of the Hindenburg myth on this one. It wasn't necessarily that the hydrogen was completely unrelated, just that the coating of the skin was a major factor. To test this properly the large scale test should have been one with the coating and one without, rather than hydrogen or no hydrogen. Based on their small scale test, it did show that for at least part of the coating, it burned significantly faster with it than with the plain cloth.
I do still think they should have built a hydrogen-filled model without the thermite dope-of course the hydrogen burns, but would it have burned less aggressively with a less flammable coating?
The narrator kept calling thermite "explosive." It isn't. It just burns very hot and very quickly. But it isn't a 'suddenly expanding gas' type of thing. Still, a very cool episode.
I'm curious what the spectral sensitivity of the news reel film stocks were in the 1930s, some modern panchromatic films are quite sensitive to UV and while hydrogen burns very faintly in visible, it burns extremely bright in UV.
I grew up in Florida and we were all taught to just run and get up high if an alligator chased us. It makes sense cause while you zig zag, the gator could catch up to you faster than if you just run
More than likely he’s just being silly for the cameras he knows they’re there to mythbusters. He’s not going to intentionally bee a creep on such a big platform
Well we forget to calculate the heat from the surrounding burning material + the pressure that forces oxygen into the flame from a huge balloon that has a leak now
35:38 this zebra is UNHINGED. You know he was getting all kinds of zebra tail after that. "Yeah this is my scar. Croc couldn't handle the MIGHTY jaws of this stallion. Thats right! I bit him back!" *chomps seductively*
They should have had a fan blowing on the Hindenburg models when testing to simulate wind speed. Would have made the burn times a lot faster. I feel like if they did this they could have achieved a burn time in under a minute as appose to the 2mins with the first model making the myth far more plausible.
I'm guessing they used Calcium Hypochlorite (Pool Chlorine) and Poly-ethylene glycol (Brake Fluid) as they are easy to get chemicals that have a incendiary reaction.
I think the biggest issue for crocodiles or alligator Chase is not using wild ones. Yes, they weren't domestic, but to me, it makes sense for a wild croc or alligator to chance as food isn't always a guarantee
I know obviously this episode is from years ago, but, try coming up on a mother alligator on her nest. She'll chase you on land. These guys only tested prey and mild annoyance. Not true aggression.
Glycerol and potassium permanganate. It's a common way of igniting thermite. You can find lots of videos on RUclips of people using glycerol and potassium permanganate to ignite thermite. NileRed has an old video showing and explaining just the reaction of glycerol and potassium permanganate, if you're curious about the chemistry.
Two thoughts (this far @16:50): The dope was not "fresh", but had been subject to months of weather, and sunlight. Does this change the dope, making it more like termite? Does the altitude of flight have an impact on the exposure of sunlight. Dihydrogen-oxide, H20. When a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen is two to one, it will bang, as seen. But in a hydrogen rich mixture, as onboard the Hindenburg, it will not bang, but burn. Search _Hydrogen Pringles Can_ There will not be enough oxygen molecules (O2) available for a reaction with every present hydrogen atom (H). At which rate it will burn... I don't know.
How to know you're from Texas without you saying you're from Texas LOL. Standing there giving a play-by-play while a tornado is forming in front of you 😆
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Always a warm feeling when we get to see Grant having so much fun. We miss you man, Rest in peace.
Oh damn, way to ruin my day. I didn't know.
@@Richard-ug4elindeed…
attention whore, let him RIP stop spamming
@@Richard-ug4el I didn't know, either. In my mind, he was always there making new stuff and wowing people. He was part of Star Trek, except he is real and not a character. I would happily give up 6 years of my life to give him 6 days more of life with people who love him. Really, truly. When I looked it up, it seemed so unfair. He is a beautiful, wonderful, much loved person robbed of life so young. I'm a largely ignored person without much value. Yea, I would be happy to give him more time alive by dying early if things like that worked...
"You make the prettiest noises" Bro WHAT 💀
I thought the same 😂😬😬😬
Hahahahahahaha omg dude when i was kid i never realized what he meant
R I G H T
i would have asked for a different filming location, thats CREEPY
That guys 100% has bodies buried in his yard ...
I came back here after many, many years not having watched a Mythbusters show and damn, this is still the best show ever made! I didn't realized the void it left in me since it ended.
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I got rid of cable in 2001, a couple of years before this show came out, so I've only seen a handful of episodes over the years.
I agree, this is the best show.
It nearly made me break down and call the cable company, but I wasn't going to pay all that money for just one show.
I'm glad I finally get to watch more episodes.
@@ambulocetusnatans it's a good show, not the best though. Fun to watch. And sometimes you learn. But that's all.
This is one of the best episodes as well.
I used to love it. But now I realize that the show is like 0.3% science and 99.7% entertainment.
Screaming "SCIENCE!" every episode doesn't make it any more scientific.
That episode about throwing like a girl is probably the best example of their idiotic pandering.
Seeing a lot of love for Grant is so nice. I really do ache everytime i remember hes gone.
But also a huge RIP to Jess as well, who is in this episode.
We miss both of you guys
Jessi Combs died. This is Jess Nelson. She’s alive still as far as I know. No media nor cast has ever said otherwise.
Full seasons and episodes without having to pirate? Yes. Always a win. Taskmaster (UK TV show) release all their episodes on RUclips and their fan-base adore them for it.
Keep uploading!!!
problem is those are geolocked. I'm in Australia and need to resort to Dailymotion. So even when they release episodes on youtube, people still need to pirate. Just think about that!
@@calumsanderson6741 You can just use a VPN to spoof your IP to make the site think you're in the UK, it's super easy, there's even good free ones you can use for it if that's all you want to do with it.
I always just assumed that EVERYBODY on the Hindenburg perished. It's almost unbelievable that more than half the people survived that!
The US Navy Airship Akron disaster was way worse, where 73 souls perished and only 3 survivors. This happened in 1933, BEFORE Hindenburg. Just goes to show when the cameras are on you get more of an impact. Akron crashed in the middle of the ocean during a storm, and most of the crew survived the initial crash, but sadly drowned due to a lack of life jackets. Life jackets were mandatory after that.
Ships going down in a storm with all or most hands wasn't new or even particularly remarkable. That Akron was an airship rather than a sea going ship is perhaps the only remarkable thing about it.
Hindeburg was remarkable in more ways than one.
Which isn't to entirely discount the camera effect, but the camera effect wasn't the only reason.
@@spudgamer6049 I would argue the reason Akron was worse was because it had almost double the fatalities. Yet despite that, Akron isn’t a household name like Hindenburg. In fact, it’s likely most of the public haven’t heard of the Akron crash. I attribute Hindenburg’s infamy to the cameras and fact it was landing in a populated area. The general public sees the video and thinks “there’s no way anyone survived that” because of how quickly the fire spread and how quickly the airship burned. Akron was too low and, buffeted by a storm, impacted the ocean tail-first, and flopped down like a whale. The fact that it wasn’t as graphic makes it less infamous, despite the fact it was more deadly.
@@AerospaceMatt people had less than a MINUTE to escape the hindenburg. its a miracle anyone survived.
1:56 When they showed the footage, you can many silhouettes of people sprinting away. They were literally close to the windows and jumped out ran like hell.
Miss them alot.
Also, RIP Grant Imahara, you'll be forever missed
The first engineer robot should be named Grant in his honour.
Same here
Pioneered the Episode 1 R2D2. A true engineer.
attention whore, let him RIP stop spamming
Grant died?!
Grant: Sees frozen quails. "I can't do this..."
Also Grant: "It's a quail-cicle :D"
"these things are always catching on fire."
😂😂😂 Always one of my favorite lines in the show.
"You make the prettiest noises."
AYO?????????????
That Alligator Farm employee should feel ashamed and disgusted about what he said to Kari. What a horrible predatory thing to say to a person on TV! Gross, gross, gross.
I mean it's hilarious. And he's a guy, who works around Crocs... flirting..... not doing a good job buuut he's trying. Not a predator, she's not underage. He's a guy. She's a girl, who's attractive.
This is the best thing to have happened on the Internet this Year! Thank you so much for coming on YT. Cheers from Portugal.
Whoever it is that got permission to post these to RUclips, _THANK YOU!_
The Hindenberg mythbust always bothered me. Not because the test was wrong, but because I'm 99% sure they got what the myth was completely wrong in the first place. I'd heard this myth before the show ran it. But I never heard anyone say that the hydrogen didn't burn. The theory was the the hydrogen wasn't what initiated the fire. That it was the doped skin that caught fire initially and then propergated to the hydrogen cells, rather than the fire starting because of a gas leak.
Correct the myth wasn’t busted just the way they were conducting the testing
Well one thing I’ve heard about those airships was they were prone to leaks, so a hydrogen leak is possible and probable
They say what your looking for at 44:24
That part with the final welding on the model catching on fire could as easily be what happened. Someone was repairing something and initiated the fire that spreads across the skin and further fueld by the hydrogen. Even a doped skin would not combust spotaneously. One is for sure, someone messed up. Since everything in there seems highly flammable, a small mess up can obviously result in mess of flame.
I never saw this episode on TV, but it's definitely one of my favourites now. It's darkly hilarious to see Adam and Jamie testing one of the worst aviation disasters in history, then Tori juggling dead birds XD
one thing i think they needed to check was the material the gas cells were made from, and how flammable it was.. because it was made from "gelatinized cotton", a sandwhich of cotton cloth with layers of gelatin impregnated inside and inbetween them to make it airtight. both of which are fairly flammable and might have contributed to the spread of the fire.
I gotta appreciate how Adam wears a proper jacket while welding instead of short sleeves like everyone else seems to. Welding arcs produce intense UV-C radiation, which is a greater cancer risk than regular sunlight (which is filtered by the ozone layer).
Well uh, he is a redhead.
I started woodworking and making props because of mythbustes:). Thanks to all those whom where apart of Mythbustes:) and now my two children are instead in making things and figuring out how things work.
Literally the 3 amigos side of this show is them always trying out a safe way, the safe way doesn't work, so tory ends up having to do something extremely dangerous for a shot. I mean, Grant and Kari have had to some crazy stuff too but it's usually tory
I was always surprised they never did a fourth blimp, unpainted but with the hydrogen, for comparison.
Exactly! When Jamie said "I think we need a third blimp" that's what I was expecting him to propose. If they made a blimp made with the same material as the Hindenburg, but with no dope painted on, and then filled with hydrogen, I feel like that would give us the most information on how much impact the hydrogen had.
Tbf the airship had a ton of hydrogen, so it’s still going to burn, but if I understand you correctly it’s how much it would burn
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 I mean, as we saw with the welding scene, it still would have burned without the dope OR the hydrogen. So in order to best see how much impact each variable had on the burn rate of the Hindenburg, I honestly think they should have had 4 blimps to test (or 5 if they still wanted their silly thermite blimp). 1. Dope painted on and filled with hydrogen
2. Dope painted on and no hydrogen
3. No dope painted on and filled with hydrogen
4. No dope painted on and no hydrogen
5. Silly thermite blimp
27:10 That dude seems a bit too happy
I like the extra footage that comes with episodes that are 10 minutes longer than on TV
You can always learn something from watching them work
The Hindenburg segment was, I think, the first Mythbusters segment I watched all the way through. Course, back then it was a bootleg upload, all low-res and probably mirrored. Great to see it officially.
They should have made 4, one that had no special coating at all and just used hydrogen. If that would have been almost as fast as the second test, the coating actually may haven't played any role at all.
Yeah that's the control I'm missing
I wonder if they would have been allowed to paint swastika's on the tail. The original Hindenburg did have those because it was in large part funded by the Nazi's and was a major propaganda machine for them. The reason they called it "Hindenburg" is to honor the late president Hindenburg cause there were still a lot of accusations going around that they betrayed him.
Wel not the firstt time they didnt setup a control test
You can still draw a conclusion from the results, just not as good as it could’ve been.
But bear in mind; it’s a discovery show, and they don’t have a laboratory. It’s ok if they don’t have science journal levels of data.
The coating keeps the hydrogen in. Otherwise, the gas would leak out. It would be possible, but maybe too unpredictable/dangerous to test
Mythbusters in 2071
Narrator: On this episode of Mythbusters: Adam and Jamie ignite an age old American debate.
[Adam and Jamie looking at a diagram in the workshop]
Narrator: Can ordinary jet fuel really melt through solid steel beams?
[Glowing metal rod snapping suddenly]
Adam: Wow!
Narrator: They'll test if this Myth can stand the heat...
[Adam filling up a gas can]
Narrator: Or will it buckle under the pressure?
[Scale model of the World Trade Center exploding violently]
Adam and Jamie: Woah!
Brilliant 😂
I know this is a joke…..but for 9-11 conspiracy people reading this , jet fuel can’t melt steel, but you know what it can do? Weaken metal (if some of you don’t know metal gets weaker as it gets hot) enough for it to become brittle or bend, and due to structural damage from a damn plane flying into it, after enough time the structure can’t hold its own weight (also look how it was built, a central core surrounded by thinner metal) then it collapses, so please do research before believing randoms online, and if you want to @ me please do it with actual credible science, sources and evidence, the term “looks like” is not an argument
Finally a channel where it doesn't zoom or distort in some way to avoid copyright
They probably bought the license
Well yeah... it's the official Mythbusters channel.
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27:14 I feel like the editor definitely left that in just so everyone could see this dude being a creep. Imagine if this guy somehow has a family, and they all sit down together to watch this episode premiere and see dad on TV Lol
He is creepy but I don't understand why everyone is making a big deal for flirting. He's awkward but trying to flirt. Why is thay creepy?
21:25 Seeing Grant so happy, melts my heart
27:15 Jeez, someone call Agent Starling, looks like Crocodile Bill wants to make a new suit !
I feel like the editors made a lot of effort with the Hindenburg footage to avoid the Nazi flags on the rudders.
15:14 oh they found their way on 😅
4:19 I have always been curious about what the chemicals they used to ignite the thermite.
question.
I'm assuming that it wouldn't have made any difference with the burn.
but at 23:11 "to match the original airship, the replicas will need aluminum frames"
literally about 5 seconds later - 23:25 "they have about every gauge of steel that we need"
were the replicas made of steel wire or aluminum?
That is a good question. When looking it up, it says the Hindenburg was made with an aluminum alloy called duralumin, and I highly doubt they'd be able to find someone just selling specifically duralumin wire. So it's not like they were able to make it with the same exact materials. My guess is they actually used steel wire, since that's what Jamie said, and maybe the narrator just misspoke. Or perhaps they were going to use aluminum wire, but changed their minds. I don't know much about welding, but maybe that had something to do with it. though I imagine if it was made with aluminum wire, it would be a lot lighter than 10lbs.
I wonder how the two clips at 7:06 being mislabeled got though editing
I mean i never noticed this watching it when this episode came out, but i sure as hell noticed now hahaha
Never have I been so early to a new official channel. It's not even verified yet. I must let the Tested audience know by leaving a comment in whatever build tomorrow's video is. It's a strange thing seeing Adam with orange hair again.
Its not official. They didn't pay to copyright the name so the name "mythbusters" is free to use.
This account is completely wrong in uploads. None of this is season 5, its season 4. My guess is to get around any claims of posting copyrighted material but its not an official discovery page
@@James27Simko is meaning we should enjoy the episodes before they got deleted
At 23:55, Adam says "this fishbone" and I thought he was talking about his assistant for a minute 😅😅 lmao
i have always wondered if the difference in the speed of the burn might have been that the hindenburg fell as it burned which means it kept falling into fresh unburnt air. The scale model didn't move at all and was in an enclosed space.
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Nope. It was because the Hindenburg had a much greater surface area and the hydrogen fueled the burn after ignition.
I mean considering hydrogen is so flammable probably not
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 yes hydrogen is highly reactive but if hydrogen has reacted with the surrounding oxygen, it is now just a hot water cloud and the reaction would only continue at the speed at which unreacted oxygen can enter the area of the hydrogen. My theory is that if the vessel in which the hydrogen is contained in is actively moving towards more unreacted oxygen, it would accelerate the rate in which it burns. It's the difference between opening a window and opening a window, then putting a fan there as well.
Awesome, i will watch all again
“I love the smell of thermite in the afternoon”
Just a quick loot at wikipedia blur and blur are most likely Potassium Permanganate and Glycerol.
My thoughts exactly. I saw the thick substance and I was like "yup glycerin". Potasium Permanganate and Glycerine react (redox) on their own as well so it basically functions as a starter at this point
That's what a good science show does, makes you curious enough to research stuff on your own.
True, but also probably didn't just want to show everyone watching the recipe for explosives 😅
@@cosminv8751 Adam commented this on his channel. He said he couldn't give people receipts for anything dangerous with ingredients you could easily find, because the authorities who were partners with the show (like the San Francisco LPD, their bomb squad, etc etc) forbid them from doing that.
I think it's more a liability thing than trying to hide the formula for dangerous stuff. Even if it's easy to learn the recipe for, say an explosive, you didn't learn it from MythBusters
Three things:
I have always loved this show, and am glad to see it available here!
I would've liked to see an alternative dope coated blimp w/ hydrogen
"You make the prettiest noises!" Sheesh! Relax, my guy 😏
Rule for Crocodilians:
If you're in Australia, Florida, or Louisiana, if you see water, there could be a croc/gator in there
Megadope is my new old favorite word.
Man, the intense heat those people must have felt near the Hindenburg. Hindenburn.
39:05 - Adam forgot to mention the fact they shot that tank through the cinder block wall and also the neighbors wall.... 😂
10:20 I think that takes the cake as the strangest sentence I have ever heard
Thanks for uploading this video! 🙏😊❤️
Put it down!
Starts to juggle the quails.
Morale of the story - do not try to fly on a huge capacitor filled with one of the most flamable gasses in the universe.
I've swam in rivers with Johnson crocodiles sitting on the other bank. They're pretty chill, mostly eat fish n birds, people are just way to big. Your little doggo however... Saltwater crocs on the other hand, they take down buffalo (yes, we have buffalo in Australia). Don't swim with them, you'll get eaten.
How about alligators? Do they alligate?
Fishing Garett would agree
Here in Brazil we sometimes see caiman in rivers and lakes (even in larger cities sometimes, though they're rare), as long as you don't annoy them, they're generally not aggressive either... At least not the ones in most of the country, I've heard the huge ones in the Amazonic region in the north of the country can and will try to chase big things- including people.
But for the broad-snout ones in most of the country? They're more of a risk to pet cats and small dogs than to people unless you do something stupid.
For anyone wondering what actually started the fire that burned down the Hindenburg, it was most likely a static discharge. All aircraft build up a considerable static charge when flying around. The blimp had gone through a lot of storm clouds which can increase the charge even more. Imagine shuffling your feet on a carpet while wearing socks only your feet are the size of a football stadium and you do it for several hours, and then you touch a doorknob in a room filled with hydrogen and the walls are painted in metal paint that burns at high temp.
Is it just me or is this a really creepy thing to say when a girl screams? gives off serial killer vibes 27:17
YEAH WTF LOL
Yeah I thought that was weird
Yeah, I came here to find this comment. Really creepy!! “You make the prettiest noises”. 🤮
It was for the camera, same with how he later said that if Cory got caught by the crocodile, he would put him out of his misery, and that his best recourse would be to lose consciousness quickly.
@@autumnroads290 TORY not Cory, as in Tory Belleci
Kari: *screams in terror*
Alligator Farmer: "You make the prettiest noises~😊"
I like when Adam says : is everybody ready for diving...
They should've had a little fan pointing at the blimp, I'm sure there was a breeze up there
So many adam's "wow!" for sampling
you have to make the croc hungry so that it will be more desperate for food.
Hard to believe this was over 20 years ago.
It wasn't. This aired in 2007
@@misterwishart "umm aktually" 🤓
Glad you googled that for me though.
@@haphazardprism - haha, yeah, cos Mythbusters fans are famously all jocks who don't care for accuracy
@@misterwishartwhat?
That paint is dope
The Hindenburg was struck by lightning so perhaps the higher temperature of the strike was better at igniting than a throw away lighter?
Crocs and gators can do an easy 30 mph - best way to escape is not to go near enough to one to be chased.
The one croc ignored the quail due to its mouth being taped shut - it knows it can't bite so it doesn't waste time chasing something it can't bite. I had to remove a three footer that got into my pool and it fought tooth and nail until I got it's mouth taped, at which point it didn't even thrash anymore - the nephews were even able to hold and interact with it without issue.
Large reptiles who are used to being hand fed tend to be VERY lazy. I've got an Argentine Tegu, Rexx, who's five feet long - he gets live rodents every once in a while as they're good for him, but he's too lazy to chase them - when they walk away from him he actually looks at me and indicates he wants me to bring his rodent back to him - that's the other benefit of giving him live rodents as they force him to chase and hunt them and thus get some exercise.
That's also why you can't release animals like Rexx into the wild when your cute little six inch tegu turns into a twenty pound, five foot long apex predator - because that apex predator is too lazy to actually hunt for food and honestly doesn't even know how to once he does get hungry enough to decide to chase something.
Please never say "juicy meat legs" again 🤣
What I think was missed in the scale testing here is that thermite has a very high ignition temperature which is probably also why the panel painted with thermite paste didn't go up straight away - the lighter wasn't hot enough. When I've seen thermite lit in experiments, it's been done with burning magnesium strip to ignite it, simply because it burns so hot and gets the thermite reaction going straight away.
Railroads weld rails with thermite and only use a propane torch.
@@Plasmastorm73_n5evv yes but when you have granules mixed up, that's going to be more insulating and you can reach ignition temperature more easily.
With the cloth in the video laid out in a sheet in open air, the heat loss from the fuel will be far more significant - likely enough to carry away sufficient heat to not immediately ignite.
square cube law. the more surface area the more volume you will have by an exponential amount
10:00 some people juggle geese!
Because of course Grant has a combat ready robot to pilot a bird around in XD
The biggest mystery about the Hindenburg is why people think it was one of the greatest disasters in aviation history. It was a bad day for those involved, but with a 60% survival rate, pretty much all other commercial plane disasters have been much worse.
A perspective I’ve seen online is that it caused a globel fear of blimps in general, which lead to the abandonment of future blimp projects due to general public apprehension.
@@andrewbakker7640 Yes, but the question is why. There's been hundreds of worse accidents since Hindenburg. The runway incursion at Tenerife in 1977 is the worst of all time in every possible way. On Hindenburg, there were 62 survivors and 36 deaths. At Tenerife, there were 61 survivors and 583 deaths and those were two fully fueled 747s, so the fireball was enormous. If that had happened to two zeppelins, they would simply have bounced off each other like inflatable canoes in the river. There would've been a mess in the restaurant and people would certainly have spilled their Martinis, but there's no chance that anyone would've died at all, unless they choked on an olive or something.
The Hindenburg is actually a great success story, because even when the absolute worst thing imaginable happened, 60% survived.
@@jeschinstad idk then man Google it
I guess it's one of the greatest... By volume? And visuals.
@@s3dchr No, there are several bigger ones captured on camera. In Tenerife in 1977, two fully fueled 747s crashed on the runway. Much, much worse in every possible way and also more spctacular because it's a high speed collision with a following giantic fireball.
It kind of feels like they missed the intent of the Hindenburg myth on this one. It wasn't necessarily that the hydrogen was completely unrelated, just that the coating of the skin was a major factor. To test this properly the large scale test should have been one with the coating and one without, rather than hydrogen or no hydrogen. Based on their small scale test, it did show that for at least part of the coating, it burned significantly faster with it than with the plain cloth.
Pompano Beach Florida, home of the Goodyear blimp.
The gator wrangler, you make the prettiest noises. LMAO.
I thought the Hindenburg paint was AP, (Ammonium Perchlorate) the fuel used in the shuttles SRBs (Solid Rocket Boosters).
was the coating inside considered aswell?
You can make thermite w/o those blurred ingredients. Iron oxide, aluminum powder, and some magnesium.
You are now on a watch list probably
12:52 camera man almost got fried hahahahaha
I do still think they should have built a hydrogen-filled model without the thermite dope-of course the hydrogen burns, but would it have burned less aggressively with a less flammable coating?
"Put those down, go back to whatever you were working on, because I have a very busy day of putting dead birds in sexy lingerie"
I think that's the only time in history that's ever been said tbh. (other than people quoting this instance).
The narrator kept calling thermite "explosive." It isn't. It just burns very hot and very quickly. But it isn't a 'suddenly expanding gas' type of thing. Still, a very cool episode.
Thank you! i was going to point this out to. It's a pyrotechnic not an explosive.
They should’ve done one with the non thermite paint with hydrogen
23:26 made me laugh for some reason
man tory juggling those birds was fuckin funny
“Dude you’re on to me”
I'm curious what the spectral sensitivity of the news reel film stocks were in the 1930s, some modern panchromatic films are quite sensitive to UV and while hydrogen burns very faintly in visible, it burns extremely bright in UV.
Since heat and flames burn up quicker than down, would there be a significant enough time difference
I grew up in Florida and we were all taught to just run and get up high if an alligator chased us. It makes sense cause while you zig zag, the gator could catch up to you faster than if you just run
“You have the prettiest noises”? What tf😂
yeahhh... 😐
More than likely he’s just being silly for the cameras he knows they’re there to mythbusters. He’s not going to intentionally bee a creep on such a big platform
39:09 WAIT a second... did the narrator actually just make a reference to the gimp r*pe scene in Pulp Fiction? That's kind of insane
Well we forget to calculate the heat from the surrounding burning material + the pressure that forces oxygen into the flame from a huge balloon that has a leak now
Blur 1 is glycerol and blur 2 is potassium permanganate. Reacting rather quickly.
35:38 this zebra is UNHINGED. You know he was getting all kinds of zebra tail after that. "Yeah this is my scar. Croc couldn't handle the MIGHTY jaws of this stallion. Thats right! I bit him back!" *chomps seductively*
They should have had a fan blowing on the Hindenburg models when testing to simulate wind speed. Would have made the burn times a lot faster. I feel like if they did this they could have achieved a burn time in under a minute as appose to the 2mins with the first model making the myth far more plausible.
I'm guessing they used Calcium Hypochlorite (Pool Chlorine) and Poly-ethylene glycol (Brake Fluid) as they are easy to get chemicals that have a incendiary reaction.
I'm certain it was glycerol and potassium permanganate. It's a common reaction used to ignite thermite, and you can tell he was pouring glycerol.
I think the biggest issue for crocodiles or alligator Chase is not using wild ones. Yes, they weren't domestic, but to me, it makes sense for a wild croc or alligator to chance as food isn't always a guarantee
They also don't travel long distances over land. They give up quickly because they exert a LOT more energy out of the water carrying their weight.
I know obviously this episode is from years ago, but, try coming up on a mother alligator on her nest. She'll chase you on land. These guys only tested prey and mild annoyance. Not true aggression.
Not in my experience. Mother gators won't go far from the nest or their babies...
Wouldn't that be just 150lbs of thermite? I think 150 extra could be lifted.
The hydrogen escaped and burned high above of wreck. The solid materials and fuel caused all injuries. Hydrogen fire injuries are extreme rare.
what watch is Adam using in 47:07
I low key want to know what blur and blur are, but I don't want to be put on an FBI watchlist just to satisfy my curiousity.
Glycerol and potassium permanganate. It's a common way of igniting thermite. You can find lots of videos on RUclips of people using glycerol and potassium permanganate to ignite thermite. NileRed has an old video showing and explaining just the reaction of glycerol and potassium permanganate, if you're curious about the chemistry.
Could the availability of air might be a limiting factor? There was a storm and the ship falling down probably created additional draft…
50 metres back from the waters edge at high tide and no swiming late at night or early morning
High tide? What does high tide have to do with gators? Gators are fresh water creatures found in rivers, lakes, and swamps in the southern US.
Two thoughts (this far @16:50):
The dope was not "fresh", but had been subject to months of weather, and sunlight. Does this change the dope, making it more like termite? Does the altitude of flight have an impact on the exposure of sunlight.
Dihydrogen-oxide, H20. When a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen is two to one, it will bang, as seen. But in a hydrogen rich mixture, as onboard the Hindenburg, it will not bang, but burn. Search _Hydrogen Pringles Can_ There will not be enough oxygen molecules (O2) available for a reaction with every present hydrogen atom (H). At which rate it will burn... I don't know.
ALSO:
Hydrogen oxide
Hydrogen hydroxide (HH or HOH)
Hydroxylic acid
Dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) (parody name[1])
Dihydrogen oxide
Hydric acid
Hydrohydroxic acid
Hydroxic acid
Hydroxoic acid
Hydrol[2]
μ-Oxidodihydrogen
κ1-Hydroxylhydrogen(0)
Aqua
Neutral liquid
How to know you're from Texas without you saying you're from Texas LOL. Standing there giving a play-by-play while a tornado is forming in front of you 😆
Okay. A smoking room? Come on people. I think its pretty obvious how that fire was started lmao
When I got up today my Bingo card did not even have the option for "I've have a really busy day of putting dead birds in sexy lingerie" 🤣