Minimal oak? On Montelena? Green apple? Last time I taste it was an oak bomb, correct if I'm wrong but modern vintage they do at least 10month In oak. Also please correct in case I'm miss informed their Chardonnay don't do Malolactic at all since a couple of years. Thanks a lot for the video, was extremely interesting great content as usual, wish I could have had a sip of that Riesling can imagine only how fabulous it was.
100 % oak barrel aging can still be minimal oak. How so, you ask, by most of the oak being used, not new oak. In terms of “malo”, there was a slight hint of butter, probably from a small amount of malolactic fermentation. It’s not that easy to block malo in all the barrels. I have never tasted an oak bomb CM chardonnay. You can calibrate your palate by tasting a Rombauer chardonnay, side by side withthe Montelena, with the former being a true oak bomb.
@@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 thanks a lot Patrick for the prompt reply and the explanation. Never had it before, not sure if it is something that I will enjoy but If I would have the chance to try I will.
Patrick, I thoroughly enjoyed blind tasting with you. Good company, nice wines and plenty of laughs. It looks like your viewers would appreciate more old wine tastings. I'm up for that! Take care my friend.
So fun to listen to the thought process of blind tasting... and how difficult it is even for MWs.. which is a little consoling ;) and Wow.. 1976 Riesling!!!!!
Dear Sir. I am Korean. I highly appreciate you that you sharing these unique quality lessons freely. There is no doubt that your lectures are standarfd textbook for beginners of wine. Of course they are funny too. I am so happy to find your channel. Thanks again and hope that your channel grow up rapidly. One more thing. Please keep making korean sub. Because there are many Korean watching your channel.
Wine lovers... thanks! Two beautiful elegant wines. Both from the new world, exellent choice. Interesting & funny to see that you both set the wines in the old world as a matter of course. Because of their classic style. Fortunately, these wines are also made in California! (And in the rest of the new world.) What the result proves once again! As in Paris in 1976. This makes it so difficult to place wines, at a blind tasting. And since '76 the wine world has much bigger en more complex. As you know it. You came a long way, with humor and a smile. That is perhaps the most important thing!
I bought a bottle of this just last week and was so impressed that I immediate had my husband run back for the 11 bottles they still had left. It was truly lovely and I could clearly appreciate why this fooled the judges in 1976. This is possibly my new favorite Chardonnay.
Really enjoy watching the process of two people who really know what they're talking about explain the process of how they taste blind.Kind of like a maths problem - even if the final answer isn't right its very informative to watch someone show their working
TBA 1976! Wow....So colour of white wine can be turned into that brownie 😦👍 Impressive Watching the blind tasting of you always giving me the inspiration Thanks!! (And I think I passed the lv.3 with high score though haha the test wasn't too easy and also tasting part was little bit tricky but I think I managed it somehow :))
BTW, Chateau Montelena does not use malolactic fermentation, or so they claim. One of you used the term "green apples" to describe it. That is the flavor that was most prominent for me when I tasted it a couple of months ago. Perhaps I got a bad bottle but I didn't care for it at all. I found it tart and a little harsh, lacking balance.. I'll try another one.
As usual, thank you, I loved this! So original! I really liked how you showed how you would have been graded in the MW exam and sharing every step of your thought process. A small suggestion would be, maybe a little bigger intro? i would personally love to know more about all these interesting folks you bring to the program! Thanks again.
I 💓 Chateau Montelena - absolutely my all-time favorite Chardonnay. I've had Chateau St Jean; it's okay, just not a favorite varietal. Enjoyed this video very much.
Thank you for the content Patrick, I’m always interested in the wines that MW’s enjoy. Perhaps an episode where yourself and another MW bring 4 bottles of some of your favourite wines that are affordable to the common man ( less than $50 each) and discuss why you love them
I just filmed one where I discuss my two favorite wines from Trader Joes, but it would definitely be more interesting with more bottles and another master of wine.
독일, 헝가리의 디저트 와인의 열렬한 애호가로서 독일 스위트가 등장하니 너무 반갑군요. 독일 와인을 잘 모르실 독자분들을 위해 설명드리자면, 1976년은 독일 와인 역사상 가장 위대한 빈티지의 하나입니다. 보르도로 치면 1961이나 1982에 비견될 빈티지죠. 다만 2021년인 지금 마시기에는 너무 오래되어 힘이 빠진 것이 대부분입니다. 영상에 나온 것 같은 TBA급라면 이야기가 다르지만, 아우슬레제까지는 지금 마시기에는 너무 오래되었습니다.
It has to be an very high quality dry Riesling or a dessert wine (Beerenausleese or better) to stay drinkable and enjoyable. Botrytis also helps a lot.
@@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 Agreed. In fact, pretty much exactly the tasting note I just wrote: "This wine for me is all about the structure, minerality and development on the palette. The fruit is relatively austere here, but it is there. Apple skin, lemon juice and underripe peach. This wine really gets you with the amazing acidic, mineralic attack, and beautiful progression through to the richer, creamy Rnish. There is a light oaking here, but it doesn't show up until the finish. Amazing how they did this! it keeps the wine so fresh and iniviting on the first taste, but leaves you with a lovely mouthfeel and richness at the end."
I at least got that it was chardonnay from his description but thats about as far as Ill ever get LMAO HAHAHA Great video would love to see this more often although I can imagine it must be hard getting MOW together since there is so few of you wonderful people out there
I live in Germany and and could say that here you can finds hundreds of aged Riesling from 60 70 80 90s. The amount of SO2, the extreme acidity made german wines able to age in time.
Great content as always. Here is an idea you might pursue in a future episode: Mafia wines. (I'm a big fan of everything mafia related minus the violence).
A touchy subject. At the repeal of Prohibition, the distribution of alcohol was controlled by various mobs. The three tiered system was an attempt to minimize the role of organized crime in the alcoholic beverages industries as was the formation of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
Even just looking at the glas it screamed Riesling aged sweet wine. I did not even know that style is produced outside Germany and Austria on a larger scale.
nice and interesting video but for me talking sound is little bit hard to listen when the sound is small and for the color wise, I cant identify it is white wine before peter talk it
Very interesting, you didn't secretly agree to use the Judgement of Paris as a theme, since the vintage of the latter one connects the two ...? I wasn't aware that California already tried this style of Riesling dessert wine back in the 1970s. Can yu tell us who this was made compared to the German categories? Even if it's called just "Late Harvest" Is that already equivalent to a Trockenbeerenauslese or at least Beerenauslese? I reckon this color - even in a 40 year old wine - is unachievable with normal Spätlese or Auslese material?
@@승욱공주 공부잘하고 계십니다- 맞아요! 리즐링입니다ㅎㅎ 리즐링은 귀부에도 잘 걸리고 아이스와인으로도 마실수 잇어서, 오늘 패트릭친구분이 모젤지역 와인과 비슷한 스타일을 갖고 오셔서 패트릭옹이 헷갈리신거에요ㅎㅎ서로 속이려고 작정하고 갖고온지라ㅋㅋ 특히 당도 최고 높은 tba스타일였던것 같네요!
@Travis Oh I didn't know that you spoke Korean. Using google translator does not always convey the exact meaning or understanding, but I believe that you answered the above question correctly. Thank you. (Please translate if you see this before our Korean Wine Ambassador does).
GREAT episode! Maybe you're best one ever...!? The Title for the video is weak-ish for the content, imho...and really sharing to help you with the hits. Regardless, keep on pumping em out!
Dr. Pat! 영상 너무 잘보고 있습니다. 너무 유익하고 조금은 재미 없다고(?) 느껴지기도 하지만^^ 그래서 더 진지하고 섬세하여 좋습니다. 개인적인 생각이지만 닥터 펫의 영상을 구독하는 사람은 아마도 완전 초보 와인 입문자많이 없을것 같은데요, 조금더 품종별로 시음해보며 그에 대한 이야기도 들을수 있으면 좋겠네요! 항상 응원하겠습니다 :)
Blind tasting is the devil! Sherlock Holmes and his freaking art of deduction...I have no issue going through the academic side of things, painful to learn as they can be, they are just words on papers. But wine in a glass? Oh boy...really to have to work more on this. Great video! Nice to see true professionals at work, especially nowadays everyone can claim to be “wine experts”.
Minimal oak? On Montelena? Green apple?
Last time I taste it was an oak bomb, correct if I'm wrong but modern vintage they do at least 10month In oak.
Also please correct in case I'm miss informed their Chardonnay don't do Malolactic at all since a couple of years.
Thanks a lot for the video, was extremely interesting great content as usual, wish I could have had a sip of that Riesling can imagine only how fabulous it was.
PDF tech sheet just says 10 months in French Oak but doesnt specify if it's new or not.
100 % oak barrel aging can still be minimal oak. How so, you ask, by most of the oak being used, not new oak. In terms of “malo”, there was a slight hint of butter, probably from a small amount of malolactic fermentation. It’s not that easy to block malo in all the barrels. I have never tasted an oak bomb CM chardonnay. You can calibrate your palate by tasting a Rombauer chardonnay, side by side withthe Montelena, with the former being a true oak bomb.
@@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 thanks a lot Patrick for the prompt reply and the explanation.
Never had it before, not sure if it is something that I will enjoy but If I would have the chance to try I will.
Patrick, I thoroughly enjoyed blind tasting with you. Good company, nice wines and plenty of laughs. It looks like your viewers would appreciate more old wine tastings. I'm up for that! Take care my friend.
Bob, it just doesn’t get any better!
I had Montelena 2015... I will try that with this Video again...
So fun to listen to the thought process of blind tasting... and how difficult it is even for MWs.. which is a little consoling ;) and Wow.. 1976 Riesling!!!!!
I do wish Dr Farrell would return with more videos!!
What a great video as always. And what a great two wines. I never saw a riesling like that. 40~45 years? Speechless.
Thanks for sharing such a unique presentation... I would have never thought a 1976 California Riesling would have survived till now
Dear Sir. I am Korean. I highly appreciate you that you sharing these unique quality lessons freely. There is no doubt that your lectures are standarfd textbook for beginners of wine. Of course they are funny too. I am so happy to find your channel. Thanks again and hope that your channel grow up rapidly. One more thing. Please keep making korean sub. Because there are many Korean watching your channel.
Wine lovers... thanks! Two beautiful elegant wines. Both from the new world, exellent choice. Interesting & funny to see that you both set the wines in the old world as a matter of course. Because of their classic style. Fortunately, these wines are also made in California! (And in the rest of the new world.) What the result proves once again! As in Paris in 1976. This makes it so difficult to place wines, at a blind tasting. And since '76 the wine world has much bigger en more complex. As you know it. You came a long way, with humor and a smile. That is perhaps the most important thing!
Hi Marcus, good to hear from you, please share with the other winelovers and ask them to drop me a line!
I bought a bottle of this just last week and was so impressed that I immediate had my husband run back for the 11 bottles they still had left. It was truly lovely and I could clearly appreciate why this fooled the judges in 1976. This is possibly my new favorite Chardonnay.
Could you taste some wines from the central coast/Santa Ynez/Monterrey/Santa Barbara.
Two very interesting wines to try definetely. Thanks for sharing these 2 wine gems!
WoW. I learn all of wine from you. Thanks!
Thank you for this birthday present!
Really enjoy watching the process of two people who really know what they're talking about explain the process of how they taste blind.Kind of like a maths problem - even if the final answer isn't right its very informative to watch someone show their working
TBA 1976! Wow....So colour of white wine can be turned into that brownie 😦👍 Impressive
Watching the blind tasting of you always giving me the inspiration Thanks!!
(And I think I passed the lv.3 with high score though haha the test wasn't too easy and also tasting part was little bit tricky but I think I managed it somehow :))
Would love to see a video of your wine collection!
BTW, Chateau Montelena does not use malolactic fermentation, or so they claim. One of you used the term "green apples" to describe it. That is the flavor that was most prominent for me when I tasted it a couple of months ago. Perhaps I got a bad bottle but I didn't care for it at all. I found it tart and a little harsh, lacking balance.. I'll try another one.
As usual, thank you, I loved this! So original! I really liked how you showed how you would have been graded in the MW exam and sharing every step of your thought process. A small suggestion would be, maybe a little bigger intro? i would personally love to know more about all these interesting folks you bring to the program! Thanks again.
서로가 서로에게 정말로 친한 친구 사이셔서 그런지 장난삼아서 두 분 모두 서로를 속이셨군요~ㅋㅋㅋ🤣🤣🤣
그나저나 일부이기는 하지만 와인이 이렇게 오랫동안 보관이 가능한 것을 보고 나니까 최적의 조건에서 최대 보관기간이 얼마나 가게 될지 무척이나 궁금해지네요ㅎㅎㅎ
저도 정말 궁금하네요ㅎㅎㅎ 19세기 와인 한번 맛보고 싶네요ㅎㅎ
Solid video. I think you’re starting to hit your stride Dr P
I 💓 Chateau Montelena - absolutely my all-time favorite Chardonnay. I've had Chateau St Jean; it's okay, just not a favorite varietal. Enjoyed this video very much.
Thank you for the content Patrick, I’m always interested in the wines that MW’s enjoy. Perhaps an episode where yourself and another MW bring 4 bottles of some of your favourite wines that are affordable to the common man ( less than $50 each) and discuss why you love them
I just filmed one where I discuss my two favorite wines from Trader Joes, but it would definitely be more interesting with more bottles and another master of wine.
독일, 헝가리의 디저트 와인의 열렬한 애호가로서 독일 스위트가 등장하니 너무 반갑군요. 독일 와인을 잘 모르실 독자분들을 위해 설명드리자면, 1976년은 독일 와인 역사상 가장 위대한 빈티지의 하나입니다. 보르도로 치면 1961이나 1982에 비견될 빈티지죠. 다만 2021년인 지금 마시기에는 너무 오래되어 힘이 빠진 것이 대부분입니다. 영상에 나온 것 같은 TBA급라면 이야기가 다르지만, 아우슬레제까지는 지금 마시기에는 너무 오래되었습니다.
Special thanks for providing the wine history.
마스터 오브 와인이 직접 전달해주는 정보들을 한국어 자막 지원해서 보니까 너무 좋네요
감사합니다~~ 많이 봐주세요^^
It's amazing that Riesling white wine aging for 40years. and i realized that changed to brown color from yellow color for long time.
It has to be an very high quality dry Riesling or a dessert wine (Beerenausleese or better) to stay drinkable and enjoyable. Botrytis also helps a lot.
좋은정보 자막으로 해주셔서 정말 감사합니다
감사합니다! 다음 영상도 기대해주세요!
Nice tasting. I'm sipping a top notch aligote from Burgundy while watching this and wondering if you'd figure out what it is...
Maybe, on a good day. Aligote is off the usual path. Some “normal” Burgundy notes with crisper acidity, less fruit and more minerality.
@@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 Agreed. In fact, pretty much exactly the tasting note I just wrote:
"This wine for me is all about the structure, minerality and development on the palette. The fruit is relatively austere here, but it is there. Apple skin, lemon juice and underripe peach. This wine really gets you with the amazing acidic, mineralic attack, and beautiful progression through to the richer, creamy Rnish. There is a light oaking here, but it doesn't show up until the finish. Amazing how they did this! it keeps the wine so fresh and iniviting on the first taste, but leaves you with a lovely mouthfeel and richness at the end."
Wow I loved this video it was very entertaining and I alway love to hear about the master of wine exam. So thank you Bernadette:)
Any scent of musk?
I at least got that it was chardonnay from his description but thats about as far as Ill ever get LMAO HAHAHA Great video would love to see this more often although I can imagine it must be hard getting MOW together since there is so few of you wonderful people out there
great video!
Another good one!👍🏼🍷🍷
Amazing tasting
Doctor, any new videos on the way? I hope so.
I live in Germany and and could say that here you can finds hundreds of aged Riesling from 60 70 80 90s. The amount of SO2, the extreme acidity made german wines able to age in time.
Fuck... I had no idea Spurrier passed. What a way to find out.
Great content as always. Here is an idea you might pursue in a future episode: Mafia wines. (I'm a big fan of everything mafia related minus the violence).
A touchy subject. At the repeal of Prohibition, the distribution of alcohol was controlled by various mobs. The three tiered system was an attempt to minimize the role of organized crime in the alcoholic beverages industries as was the formation of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
@@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 maybe Italian wine from the several 'Mafia regions' for example where the Cosa Nostra comes from (Sicily I believe)...
Even just looking at the glas it screamed Riesling aged sweet wine. I did not even know that style is produced outside Germany and Austria on a larger scale.
nice and interesting video but for me talking sound is little bit hard to listen when the sound is small and for the color wise, I cant identify it is white wine before peter talk it
2017 Montelena or which vintage?
2018
We try to put all the wine details in the description, along with other info.
Very interesting, you didn't secretly agree to use the Judgement of Paris as a theme, since the vintage of the latter one connects the two ...? I wasn't aware that California already tried this style of Riesling dessert wine back in the 1970s. Can yu tell us who this was made compared to the German categories? Even if it's called just "Late Harvest" Is that already equivalent to a Trockenbeerenauslese or at least Beerenauslese? I reckon this color - even in a 40 year old wine - is unachievable with normal Spätlese or Auslese material?
모젤 품종으로 만든 화이트 와인을 오랜 시간 숙성하여서 갈색으로 변한 상태에서도 마실만한 상태가 될수 있다니 놀랍습니다.
저도 신기했어요😃🤔
모젤이 지역이름이고 품종은 리슬링 아닌가요? 요근래 aoc들 공부하는데 넘 헷갈려서 질문드려요 흑흑
@@승욱공주 공부잘하고 계십니다- 맞아요! 리즐링입니다ㅎㅎ 리즐링은 귀부에도 잘 걸리고 아이스와인으로도 마실수 잇어서, 오늘 패트릭친구분이 모젤지역 와인과 비슷한 스타일을 갖고 오셔서 패트릭옹이 헷갈리신거에요ㅎㅎ서로 속이려고 작정하고 갖고온지라ㅋㅋ 특히 당도 최고 높은 tba스타일였던것 같네요!
모젤 품종ㅇㅈㄹ ㅋㅋ
@Travis Oh I didn't know that you spoke Korean. Using google translator does not always convey the exact meaning or understanding, but I believe that you answered the above question correctly. Thank you. (Please translate if you see this before our Korean Wine Ambassador does).
GREAT episode! Maybe you're best one ever...!? The Title for the video is weak-ish for the content, imho...and really sharing to help you with the hits. Regardless, keep on pumping em out!
Dr. Pat! 영상 너무 잘보고 있습니다. 너무 유익하고 조금은 재미 없다고(?) 느껴지기도 하지만^^ 그래서 더 진지하고 섬세하여 좋습니다. 개인적인 생각이지만 닥터 펫의 영상을 구독하는 사람은 아마도 완전 초보 와인 입문자많이 없을것 같은데요, 조금더 품종별로 시음해보며 그에 대한 이야기도 들을수 있으면 좋겠네요! 항상 응원하겠습니다 :)
A little competition
Blind tasting is the devil! Sherlock Holmes and his freaking art of deduction...I have no issue going through the academic side of things, painful to learn as they can be, they are just words on papers. But wine in a glass? Oh boy...really to have to work more on this. Great video! Nice to see true professionals at work, especially nowadays everyone can claim to be “wine experts”.
subtitles? :( Actually, I can hear it, but I think many Korean subscribers will regret it.
We have them up but for some reason it’s not working. They’ll definitely be up later tonight as we figure it out.
한국 자막 다시는 편집자님. 2분 36초에 배럴 숙성-> 배럴 발효로 수정하셔야할 것 같습니다. Barrel fermentation이라고 하시네요!
조언 감사합니다 🤗🤗
@@thekoreanwineambassador1491 자막기능이꺼져잇는데 어터카죠
@@matthew4606 지금 작업하고 있어요~ 수정은 아까 했는데 갑자기 안나오는 이유는 저도 모르겠네요...ㅠ
🍷🥂🍾🍷
신기한 와인의 세계~!
매우 신기하죠! 정말 무궁무진 합니다!^^
The thumbnail needs to be changed. Masters of Wine Blind Test Each Other? No thanks.
와 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 정말
감사합니다. 재미있는 영상.
저도 그냥 마실게 아닌 더 생각하며 마셔봐야겠어요.