SLIP TEST - Audi A3 Quattro vs Bmw 1 xDrive -
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Audi A3 2.0 TDI Quattro (2014)
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Bmw 1 120d xDrive (2019)
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Great test! Thanks for the effort!
Audi does not use the real Quattro system in the A3 model because the A3 has a transversal mounted engine. The consequence is that the A3 cannot have a true Quattro drive, as it does with other Audi models that have a longitudinally mounted engine. The Audi A3 has a heldex like golf. The BMW 1 Series F20 has a longitudinally mounted engine as is the case with almost all BMW models, which means it has a true XDrive. This is the main reason why BMW passed the last test and Audi did not. It doesn't matter how much a system allows the wheels to spin, but how capable it is to lock a differential to shift the torque to a wheel that has the grip. In summary, the BMW 1 Series is a mechanically superior car. Audi fan boy.
"Real Quattro" and Golf: ruclips.net/video/bHTHP2WuciE/видео.html
S3 also passed all tests: ruclips.net/video/WrMFlfz5in0/видео.html
xDrive is clutch-pack based awd system, so is Quattro with haldex. Layout is opposite. And longitudinally mounted engine in BMW has nothing to do with final result of the test.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Did the S3 pass the last test, because it has a different (sport) rear differential?
@@martin.kirilov No, standard open differential. Sport differential comes from 2008 but it is still an open diff.
Ognjen Sladoje Total rekt from uploader. suck on that audi fangays. just admit and sit down with your overpriced skodas. Quattro was the best back in the days while it was fully mechanic, not now, the copy of xdrive called quattro ultra with electronic actioned clutch inside the transfer case. study more
Basically BMW delivers a better product thank Audi in that category
This channel is brilliant. Really doing the country, well the world i suppose, a great service by giving us these great real life tests to help us make decisions.
I know there's more to offroading / loose surfaces than this, but it's a great place to start.
Thanks!
I read comments from those who say that the A3, which is fitted with the engine installed transversely, does not use the "quattro" system like other Audi models with a longitudinal engine: however, it is also true that Audi sells its A3 with the "quattro" logo applied. does not give it much publicity,
if indeed with a transverse engine it does not have the same characteristics as its famous more performing all-wheel drive system (at least on the rollers). However, I saw another video comparison between BMW and AUDI on ice, and uphill the first seems to start a little better than Audi. The BMW XDrive system in real conditions,
it could be much better than you might expect given its lesser reputation. I have always frowned upon the "quattro" system as the best of the various systems together with SUBARU: now, however, after this video, I have an even better opinion of the BMW XDrive system.
I think in the last test the bmw should have 2 rear wheels and one front slipping,as the bmw is rear biased as opposed to the A3 wich is front biased.
ruclips.net/video/vREWbSI6Z_M/видео.html
Did you test the grand cherokee ?
Nope, not yet.
Zouden jullie de Suzuki ignis 4x4 2006 kunnen testen
Coming in April/May.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers oke bedankt voor uw antwoord
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BMW ma w genach ten tylni napęd.
Bmw ilk defa Audı karşısında şaşırttı beni, Mercedes 4 matıc en kötüsü
Auidi önden çekiş karakterli 4x4 araba. Bmw ise arkadaş çekiş karakterli 4x4. O yuzden auidi kaldi orda
I came to the conclusion rollers can't replace real world experience on winter roads or off road. Mostly because the car stands still. It's just good to show how these systems work the moment the vehicle leaves static state, rolling on two or three ice blocks. A moving car is a complicated dynamic object with all kind of forces that apply. And it gets even more crazy if you add what's underneath the rubber. The rollers are an attempt to drop as much variables from the equation as possible.
Yes, roller tests do not show dynamic behaviour of awd systems. Here is video about roller tests vs real conditions: ruclips.net/video/926i0zqteXE/видео.html
XD
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Videos of cars performing what's exactly a roller test, but on a winter hill.
An Audi that does well!
At least before the last test.
New haldex worst then old.
It get worse every time, so is real Quattro the old perform better then the old sometimes
2024, creo que el Fraudi A3 sigue intendo salir de los rodillos😂
Original QUATTRO gibt,s erst ab A4. Trotzdem schöner A3-optisch.
Original Quattro includes three open differentials ond two lockers, ended in 1987. If you mean later versions with torsen diffs - nowadays only some versions of A4 (and up) have it.
Bmw much more intelligent system
Audi is 5 years older than bmw
@@bahvinkeitin1953Bmw 1 2011 - 2019, Audi A3 2013 - 2020.
Pone el a3 del mismo año que el otro
No que el audi sea del 2010 y el otro del 2016
W a3 jest haldex a nie torsen
Nikt tu nie twierdzi inaczej.
Nie zmienia to faktu że zasada działania napędu haldex i x-drive jest bardzo podobne, dodatkowo torsen nie jest montowany w każdym Audi, dzisiaj praktycznie każdy napęd 4x4 w osobówkach opiera się na sprzęgle wielotarczowym u jest to rozwiązanie które ma pewną przewagę nad torsenem ale ma też wady jak wszystko.
XDrive 👍
France love Xdrive, it's not for nothing... Xdrive are better
Quattro defeated ;)
The audi esc seems to act sooner bmw is set up for later action for a more sportier drive. The x drive is also more capable with sportier feel but I suppose it’s not that reliable as a torsen, or is it?!
But there is no torsen in this Audi 🙂 This one has haldex, so both cars are using clutch-packs and electronics for awd systems.
4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel oh yes small class models don’t use torsen.
So is it that there’s not enough torque for the rear axle or the traction control is not effective?
@@rotorblade9508 I think there is not enough torque. This is standard A3, so it probably has less aggresive software for haldex than S3 or Golf R.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I think that is a traction control problem. Maybe, not enough torque to the rear axle but clearly not enought torque transfer by the traction control. And it's a current "problem" on the rear axle. Maybe, it' s also the manufacturer will to have more stability on the road.
@@Softroader Traction control cannot do a thing if not enough torque is applied to rear differential by haldex. Haldex comes first, then traction control. The problem may be in combination of both.
That bacuse the audi is FWD based
Just like these ones: ruclips.net/video/WC_SrjZRyXA/видео.html
Audi the best... oh wait 😂😂😂
Audi doesn't use the real Quattro on the A3
And what is "real Quattro"?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers it uses a heldex all wheel drive system.. You should do your research first
@@nikosntousikos5314 So what? Quattro is marketing name for many types of awd systems, including haldex, not heldex as you called it.
Besides you didn't answer the question - what is that real Quattro?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers the system that other audi models use.. Not the a3, s3, RS3
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers haldex is used by vw
Dusza spokojna to nie jest quattro tylko haldex. Po co kłamać?
Quattro to nazwa handlowa kilkunastu rodzajów napędu na cztery koła, w tym haldexa.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers
Szkoda ze tego nie wyjaśniłeś w opisie bo haldex nie ma nic wspólnego z prawdziwym quattro czyli stałym napędem na cztery koła.
@@Mo13488 Haldex może być napędem stałym, wszystko zależy od konfiguracji. Obecnie nie ma to żadnego znaczenia, sprzęgłowe układy awd w niczym nie ustępują, a nawet wyprzedzają rozwiązania mechaniczne.
@@Mo13488 Przy okazji - wszystkie rodzaje quattro, cywilne: ruclips.net/video/ItTkEb_pf1A/видео.html
Oraz rajdowe: ruclips.net/video/EavuM2ShG30/видео.html
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers haldex może być stałym ale nim jest bo nie po to ma sprzęgła żeby być napędem stałym.
THATS NOT QUATTRO SOUND
What is quattro sound?
А что если брать машины более 5 летнего возраста? Сильно ли там взлетает цена ? Просто какая-то неприязнь у меня к новым авто. А вот 2010-2016 года машины как-то интереснее были. Сколько может стоить например audi A4 allroad 2013-2016 года? Или BMW X1 первого поколения?
Audi powinno mieć wolne koło z przodu a nie z tyłu do tego porównania. Stały napęd idzie z przodu. BMW zaś tył i było ok.
Przecież są wszystkie konfiguracje.
Faktycznie. Gapa ze mnie. Xdrive na prawdę daje radę. Sam napęd z racji wzdłużnego umieszczenia silnika też wydaje się kompaktowy oczywiście w porównaniu do torsena a haldex... W codziennych warunkach jest raczej wystarczający
@@kierowca1990 Oczywiście, że xDrive daje radę. Quattro z haldexem (IV, V) to też bardzo sprawne układy awd.
Wiem że haldex 1 jest delikatnie mówiąc niedopracowany. 2 GEN znacznie lepszy o 3 w sumie nie wiele wiem ale kiedyś usłyszałem że 4 gen jest nawet od 5 lepsza. Xdrive z kolei jest bardziej sportowy jak nissan gtr
@@kierowca1990 Wada Haldexa I i II to reaktywne działanie, czyli w reakcji na uślizg. Od trzeciej generacji jest już działanie proaktywne. VAG nigdy nie stosował haldexa III, więc dopiero IV i V są sprawnymi układami, tu oczywiście wszystko zależy od oprogramowania. xDrive, jak i Atessa z GTR-a napędzają przednią oś sprzęgłem, ale układ z Nissana ma zupełnie inną budowę.
*Audi FAIL*
So there is that.
The legend says the audi still trying to get out of that rolls 😂😂😂
I have also seen other videos with new models of Audi and had the same problem 😂😂
Buy Audi if you want to stay home in the winter season
It uses heldex system not the actual Quattro.. It will always be ahead of the other German companies
@@nikosntousikos5314 Again - haldex, not heldex. And it is one of Quattro types. You want "actual quattro" - here it is: ruclips.net/video/bHTHP2WuciE/видео.html
Or here: ruclips.net/video/JU2fJN8dbWU/видео.html
Or here: ruclips.net/video/SbCD-BfGJ6g/видео.html
@@nikosntousikos5314 .Audi is from Germany..
@@mihaiadrian1963 no shit..
😂😂
What's so funny?
БМВ как всегда рулит!
Бмв рулит если в повороте есть возможность замедлиться и проехать спокойно и безопасно... Ну либо проехать быстро, но с дрифтом. А если нужен быстрый проезд в поворот при плохом сцеплении с дорогой, то тогда лучше ауди. 30-70 бмв и 60-40 ауди тому причина. Бмв выгребать передними на большой скорости не может. Тут как ни крути, хоть xdrive на роликах себя и показал чуть лучше, но если давить тапок, он не сможет помочь.
БМВ задний привод!Идет напрямую.Потому и сьехал.При Роликах на задние колеса-стоял бы как АУДИ.А на АУДИ передний привод.Момент перекидывается назад!
Bmw - front axle on demand.
Audi - rear axle on demand.
What's your point?
Audi power
Quattro Fail... what will the excuse be this time😂😂
Its not a Quattro, it is Haldex...Idiot
Nikola Radosavljević Too easy fan boy😂
@@nikolaradosavljevic1344 Quattro is marketing name for many types of awd systems, including haldex.
this guy always finds the worst audis lol
Comment section is one big XDDDD. People, bmw fans, haldex=/=torsen. Anyway, let's test it on snow or on the gravel road.
So the A3 was better at everything except the last one.
No it wasnt... Replay the video sir!
That's complicated matter. It is not the point to just slow the wheels down are stop them, that may be extremely dangerous, Quattro Ultra has this kind of system error. In many cases slippage is necessary to get the car out of trouble.
The Audi seems to be a a part of a second quicker in the most parts and completely fails in the last one. Thats how I would describe it. Which would you prefer in extreme winter/ice conditions? Driving a Bmw or be stuck in an Audi?
Audi qoattro vorsprung dur tehnic nr 1 welt.
Haha 😂 Audi !! she's stuck poor poor luckily there is a bmw in propulsion it's better than the xdrive
Haldex vs Xdrive, not Quattro.
BMW beat Audi in this one
Quattro is marketing name for many types of awd systems, including haldex.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yes.. So you can put like Quattro (haldex) vs Xdrive, because it's not the same system
@@frrka You won't find Quattro Haldex badge on the car. Just Quattro. I use the same naming as Audi does.
Dejan Djakovic
Clearly the Audi fan boy is bitter because x drive is obviously better (better than the torsen one too)
@@matthewchetcuti3278 typical bmw idiot
quattro is vastly overrated.
That's haldex not torsen in a3