For those of us that cover events in low light like weddings and receptions, mirrorless has some significant disadvantages in autofocus. If you always use large aperture lenses and shoot wide open all the time, then you may not notice, but the fact that all autofocus in an SLR happens with the lens wide open, and you get the benefit of AF assist from a flash or even just a near-IR illuminator. Mirrorless and that WYSIWYG mode always stops the lens down to your taking aperture, so if you need f8 to get everyone at a table acceptably sharp, you are handicapping your mirrorless autofocus by starving it of light. This is a problem with each mirrorless system I have tried in the last 12 years. So that 24-70 f2.8 lens that has so many advantage on a DSLR even if i select f8 as my aperture for the exposure, suddenly becomes a hindrance on mirrorless. from f2.8 to f8 is 3 stops. In that scenario, the AF system in the mirrorless camera has to make decision with 1/8th the light that the DLSR will have to work with just by design. I have a Z5 i use regularly, but I have tried for the last couple of years to adapt it to the indoor venue things that i cover regularly, and it's just not nearly as effective as the DSLR's that i have. Even as lame as the autofocus is on a D800, it still gets me a higher percentage of in-focus shots. My sad little D5300 and D7200 are even better than that. the newer camera certainly has a sensor capable of impressive low light performance, but the autofocus will always have one hand tied behind its back.
Nive comparison video. I have both D750 and Z5, both purchased new, love them both. Shot a wedding in June, started out with Z5, kit lens, and adapted lenses. It worked so well, D750 stayed in the bag.
I just ordered a Z5 to be a back up to my Z6 II. I am a mostly wedding and portrait shooter. I have full confidence the Z5 will fill my needs in both those disciplines.
Pretty good and straight-forward advice, I'll say. Since this is targeted more towards beginners and/or budding enthusiasts on budget I'd just like to add a few things from my own experience. We tend to overthink a little, a lot even, when it comes to a new purchase while overlooking practical outcomes. For example - many new users are told by reviews or experts that brand A or mount A is better than brand B/mount B 'cause it has a much larger selection of lenses. Now having a multitude of options is all better n well but what good it does for someone who can't afford (or need) 95% of those! it's different for pros who earn a livelihood from photography and requires such flexibility. From my experience most of your everyday hobbyists stick with their initial set-up and plans for upgrades don't often follow-up which is why one needs to exercise a bit commonsense and remember what they really need or how much of it can they practically afford. Sure the F-mount has some of the best glasses Nikon ever produced but does it have any equivalent for the cheap and lightweight yet super-sharp "kit" Z 24-70 f/4? Or the more versatile Z 24-120 f/4 with equally brilliant sharpness (optically better and focuses faster than its F-mount counterpart), close focus and ~0.40x magnification ratio? For someone who doesn't own older FF glasses, the quality of Z-mount lenses alone can make the choice much easier.
I use the Z5 as a backup to my Z6II and as my daily driver that I use with the 40F2 . I bought my Z5 like New used from MPB for around $960 and I’m very happy with it .
Went from a D200 to the Z5. You could argue if you use the Dx crop, the two are close to identical. I miss the sturdiness of the D200 but as I grow older I appreciate small weight savings. I got the kit with 24-200. Great for an everyday thing. Got the 40/2 and its superb for what I do. You have sold me on the 20/1.8 and am very tempted on the 105. Great channel, really surprised you don't have more subs but RUclips has pointed me in the direction of other channels your size that have grown to more than a few hundred thousand quite quickly so hopefully you will be one of those.
I have a d610. Like you, I bought it when Nikon sold it with the grip, 50mm 1.8, and wi-fi adapter for near 900.00. Couldn’t even pass that deal up. Such an awesome camera. One day I do plan on getting the Z5. I really like the idea to that you can see exposure in real time and to also place focus points just about anywhere in the frame.
Oh man, first off thanks for watching and I hope to see you more around the channel, second, I love the z5. It my take everywhere camera. Excellent sensor. Check out my Z5 videos 🙏🙏
I agree going Z5 if just starting even though I still shoot with my wife as a second shooter using a d600 & D610. She has been using (2) D750's & a D810 but will be getting a Z6II this week that has been on backorder for a month. Picked up a refurbished Z5 and FTZ for a little over $1K. I have a lot of fast Legacy F-mount Nikon glass that is not compatible with FTZ in auto focus. Fortunately some of my Tamron lenses are updated with the Tap-on console and work as well as the G series AFS Nikon lenses. The D600's will be a very capable back up once I get more comfortable with the Z5. I have always bought used but I feel the value is there with the Z5 that will help me stay current with technology. I still shoot with a D700 and laugh a little after using a remote for it, then I used my phone as a remote for the Z5...night & day.
How do you like the z5 versus your d810 quality wise I know it’s less megapixels but other then that how is sharpness dynamic range etc thinking of switching my d810 to a z5
@@Eternal_Lens_Media Z5 is a good value with getting into mirrorless. The D810 is a very good camera, wife uses her Z6II for paid events and says the auto focus actually gets a better hit rate when doing portraits with eyes being in focus. I'm mostly a second shooter at weddings and events and Z5 uses more batteries and I wasn't all that impressed with auto focus. I shoot single point back button focus. I did the firmware update on the Z5 a few months ago and seems to of helped. I mostly shoot with the Z5 and the 24-120mm Z lens and its a good all rounder for what I do. I feel at times it's lacking but then I had faster glass and was using (2) D610's before, wife had (2) D750's plus the D810. Overall I'm good with my purchase of the Z5. I still have my D3 and D700 cameras and lots of Nikon Legacy glass. Last night I gave one of my favorite 1977 film cameras to my 25 yr old son because somehow people like the tactile mechanical feel and the process of thinking about the shot. In giving him pointers about film my wife commented how digital has made her lazy. I appreciate technology and the Z5 has made certain things easier for me but hasn't made me a better photographer.
@@C2CDisciple I appreciate your response I shoot professionally as well. I also started on film myself. I’m looking to get a Z5 because I find myself missing quite a few shots during important moments, such as weddings do the focusing slowness of the D810 I also find it, picking the wrong thing to focus on without manually selecting, and I don’t always have time to do that in a quick shoot, which is why I’m hoping the eye auto focus on the z5 will save some of these shots Have you noticed any degradation and image quality from the D810 to the z5 in terms of dynamic range, or high ISO performance? I appreciate you responding. You have a great day buddy also, I love that your whole families involved in Photography
@@Eternal_Lens_Media wife shot D810 more than I, so I asked her and she said with mirrorless you can push ISO more with minimal noise and li610'skes her Z better compared to the D810. Using the Z cameras I'm getting my shots without flash all the time during events and weddings. Now again I use single point focus primarily and it is easier with the Z5 compared to the DSLR's because of the joy stick and I can put the focus point wherever instead of within 9, 21 or 39 point AF with my D610's, although I did a lot of back button focus and recompose with the DSLR's. Wife did say the eye tracking is better but still glitches with more than one person even though there is an arrow to select who you want. Not to get into the weeds here but both my wife and I would recommend the Z5 over the D810 in doing weddings and events and for that matter anything
When I switched to Nikon I was considering getting a D610 or D750, and then just buy second hand. There's enough second hand gear on the market, so I wouldn't miss out for the first couple of years or three. But then what, when the second hand gear will break and there market will shrink? At that time I would had to invest in a new system again, and I wouldn't be able to sell my Nikon gear, whatever was left of it. The Z5 is such a great camera and the price allows most people to get it. It's the perfect camera for getting into the Z-mount system, and then build from there. And contrary to other brands, Nikon is actually offering good prices, they're not going crazy with high prices. I'm glad that I pulled the trigger on the Z5 and I'm pretty convinced that this is the system for me. That said, my lens collection is mostly adapted manual lenses, I love Voigtlander lenses, so when I'm done building my lens collection I wouldn't have a hard time shifting. But Nikon offers me all that I need, both when it comes to zoom lenses (where I am going natively, getting the f4 trinity of zooms, if Nikon ever makes a 70-200mm f4, otherwise I just keep on using my Nikkor 200mm f4 AIS), and their pricing is better than other brands, so I don't see any reason to switch. I'll be happy shooting until I drop with a Nikon camera in hand 🙂
I just found your channel and I’m so happy I did! After watching your great review I think I’ll keep my three Nikon D7 50‘s! I may purchase the Z5 at a later time!📷
I am considering the Z5. However, all my lenses right now are F-mount. If I will get the Z5, I intend to use it with my F-mount lenses although I may get the 50mm f/1.8s Z-mount lens because my F-mount lenses are all manual focus. The great thing about the Z5 is that there is focus peaking to make manual focusing easier and the IBIS will also be a big help. Those are the selling points from me aside from the Z5 being cheaper than the D750. I also have a 35mm film camera and its focusing screen is much brighter than the focusing screen for DSLR's. The brightness makes it much easier to manually focus on a 35mm film camera in my opinion. I used to have a D800 but I already sold it so I am looking for a new digital camera to go with my 35mm film camera.
very interesting, thanks for this video. the z5 just came down in price, just under 1000....NEW. so its either a used d800 etc for around 7or 8, or spend the extra to get new tech. LOL, and you brought up the d610, i was thinking about the d610, for about 4 or 5, but you are right, with IBIS, i can used some older glass that is not VR and take advatage of the IBIS (but not auto focus). the focus peaking seems to be a great feature. i think its time i go mirrorless, or get a cheap d610. i know this seems silly, but i am not a pro and tend to like cameras under 500, the logic being that if they get stolen or smashed, the loss is not as bad. thanks
those r the 2 cameras i use the d750 & few month ago i get good deal on used z5 most my lenses tamron f mount z mount i have only the 24-50 kit lens , if i use the z5 with out the tracking option i get fair auto focus , i also use my z5 in law light & most of the time im happy with results ,im waiting tamron or sigma to make lenses for the z mount i have most the lens i need for my way of shooting in f mount so i use them with the ftz 1 adapter i may purchase the z24-120 f4 to use daily
Hi, thanks for explaining the differences! I have a D7000 and am looking to upgrade to a 36 mm sensor camera. Second hand I could get a D750 for about $500 or the Z5 for about $900 - would your recommendation still be the same, considering that in your recommendation the D750 is actually more expensive than the Z5? I'm leaning towards the D750 myself. I don't shoot video.
I actually own the Z5 now, and yes I would still recommend the z5. Nikon mirrorless lenses are stunning and if you’re upgrading now, you’d might as well future proof your upgrade. Check out my newest z5, I also have a lot of Z5 content backlogged coming up
@@ZWadePhoto hi Wade, thanks for replying so fast! I'll have another look at the Z5 then. What I don't like about it is the lack of top screen and the (supposedly?) slower autofocus. Also, I have a few (DX) lenses with F-mount so the Z5 would be a much more expensive endeavour.
@@TillRaguin honestly, I have the Z5, Z6ii, Zfc, and Z9 and I haven’t looked at the top screen yet haha so I haven’t really noticed a lacking of it on the Z5. If you do go the z5 route, I’d recommend Z5 body only, used excellent plus condition, and the Nikkei Z 40mm f/2. That lens is dirt cheap and kicks ass. I have content on that too 👌
@@ZWadePhoto I look more at the top screen of my D7000 than on the back (?) screen, tbh! I'll see what kind of deal I can get. Money is kind of a big factor for me, too. The D750 bodies I'm seeing are closer to $650 though now that I'm seeing what's available. $1000 for the Z5 bodies.
At the time of writing this comment, I've watched the z5 drop below $1000 body only. Furthermore, now Viltrox has a suite of more affordable large aperture primes to help folks get started. I bought the Nikon z5 with the wonderful 24-70f4 for $1400 last Christmas. It's basically an unbeatable combo for the price. That said, I have an affinity for d750 and have been shopping them for about 2 years on the used market. I've found them as low as $500 with a 50mm f/1.8G, which I consider to be a great lens. I've found people selling their entire setup, d750, 35mm, 50mm & 85mm f/1.8G lenses for less than $1000. I think there's no wrong answer here. Body stabilization is the primary benefit of going z5 for me. Being able to stabilize primes 50mm and up is very nice! That said, my biggest complaint on all mirrorless cameras is the battery life. I don't want a pocket full of batteries... The worst DSLR battery life rivals or beats the best mirrorless battery life, including the fantastic Sony Z type batteries. I also find myself missing the more mechanical experience that came with DSLRs. Just shooting the breeze. Great video!
Thanks for commenting. My sessions are never long enough to ever use a full battery, but DSLR's quite literally could be left on for weeks with little impact on the battery haha.
@@ZWadePhoto That's true. And it is also true that everyone's mileage will vary. I'm a slow, walk-around & timelapse photographer primarily. So, I am probably the worst case scenario in terms of battery longevity lol.
The Z5 is a clear winner. Because of that crop in 4K, I would use it strictly as a 1080p camera. And that may be good enough for a lot of people. Not everyone needs to shoot in 4K or do super slow motion. The only real advantage I can see for the D750 is the faster burst rate (6.5 fps vs 4.5). But neither of these cameras is going to blow anyone away with their speed. After all, the new Z6 III can shoot 14 fps mechanical and much faster with the electronic shutter. Neither of these cameras is really for me due to their limitations for speed and video, but for the right user, the Z5 could be ideal. I am thinking about the Z6 II on the used market. It shoots full-width 4K and 12 fps mechanical.
Nikon AFD 300/2.8. screw drive costs about $1000 used in mint condition...I love the D750...(as well as the newer D500) The D750 shutter can go onwards of several hundred thousand cycles....the battery is larger so more clicks and the card slot is on the side so that a battery grip is usable (two batteries) AFD lenses are plentiful on the used market....For small portable gear I use M43...I generally prefer flip down vesus side flip rear screens... I loved the Canon eosRP gear but I ended up using mostly EF glass anyway so back to Nikon.
Tough choice my friend. If you have the budget for a piece of Z glass, maybe the Z5. I have several Z5 videos. Check them out I actually really enjoy that camera.
If you were buying a D750 in 2022, you'd be mad to buy new. You'd be looking to pay about $750 for a decent low shutter count example and you'd wait until you found one. On the Z5: the odd thing is that the real world prices of the Z5 and Z6 mk1 are really close. In the case of the Z5 there aren't many on the used market but there are many used Z6 mk1 bodies for sale because people have upgraded to the Z6 mk2. Personally I think you'd have to really want those 2 SD card slots to make you chose a Z5 over a Z6 mk1. I currently shoot with all the D3 series bodies (love those massive optical viewfinders!) and I'm thinking of buying a Z6 mk1 for about £1000 U.K.
Question is do I get a used D750 for $600 or a used Z5 for $800? I plan on using F lenses since I have several from my film cameras, so the Z5 would need to FTZ adapter.
If your f lenses are D series (screw drive AF) then the FTZ won’t even save you. Haha I’d keep a DSLR around if Nikon would make a screw drive adapter. I can manual focus just fine, but I like AF 95% of the time
I purchase a D750 when it was launch way back then and I'm still using it now, wanted to get the D780 but it was over my budget, also considering the z6 but the AF wasn't good enough than and it only have 1 card slot and using the xqd card whic is quite expensive, z5 hit the sweet spot for my needs and skills. I think we are in the same stage when DSLR is taking over SLR or cassette to CD, or VHS to DVD the technology of mirrorless (IMHO - I'm not a pro photographer) outweigh the DSLR camera body's, bottom line is, it's more about the skills and knowledge about photography rather than the gear, you can give a z9 to a newbie and compare his photos vs a pro using a D3100 with a kit lens and I can bet you the pro photographer will produce better images.
I have shot and love both. They say the Z5 is the same sensor. It might be the same “kind of” sensor, but have extensively shot both, the Nikon Z5 does look and feel newer. The 750 is awesome, even in 2022, but to my eye I can see that the Z5 images don’t look dated. I think when you’re ready to upgrade, you will love the Z5 for image quality AND the benefits you get from mirrorless. I can’t go back now I’m hooked haha. Hope this helped and thanks for watching
I think the real value of a d750/d610/d600 comes from buying it dirt cheap used and having so many amazing and cheap lenses that are being sold for peanuts. That includes the af, af-d and af-g ones.
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Great video thanks, I own the D750 and have my eye on the Z5. If you don't mind I have 3 things to add. 1 The buffer on the D750 fills quickly when burst shooting and fps slows considerably there are comparisons on RUclips that actually show the Z5 getting more fps if you burst long enough. 2 Cost, I would disagree, as the lenses for the F mount system are way cheaper and readily available I'd say if buying used the D750 will save you money when you factor in higher end glass. Last point is low light (non flash) photography I have had to push the D750 up to 10,000 and wasn't happy with the grainy results (not sure if the Z5 is cleaner at high ISO)
Z5 is a great camera... Why would you even bother to buy a D750 if you buying your first camera or going full frame. Z5 all the way, but me personally if you have budget I would take Z7II or Z6II... But if you have an D750 in your bag then by all means shoot with it. Its a great camera that will produce great pictures. If it doesnt its your fault, go take classes how to shoot. Buuuut pictures coming from Z are just sharper for me. And EVF is just winner for me personally. Z5 is a entry level, but a great entry level. It has lot going on. My dream kit right now would be a Z5 and Z7II... My opinion only 😊
I don't really agree with some of your premises. Unless you are rather wealthy, there is no way one should recommend a full frame $1k camera to a beginner. If the beginner is about learning photography then they can start with a phone, with a point and shoot, with a bridge, with a second hand 6 year old dslr. Anything onto which they have some kind of manual control to start learning the effects of the settings, composition and post processing. If the person doesn't care about photography but wants much better results than a phone, a sony alpha apsc camera with recent AF system is pretty much all they need and that's around 500 with a lens used. If someone is considering the D750 and the Z5 and is not already an advanced user or with incomes directly tied to photo, I'd talk them into other less trendy and less sexy cameras which are great learning platforms. I don't think there are many system as good as a D5xx when it comes to learning. All those old manual lenses that can be had for cheap makes it a dream to experiment and solidify one's interest in photography. They are compatible up to the latest F mount cameras as well and are pretty capable in A S M modes. When it comes to doing professional work, I'm convinced that while the D750 remains really capable, a Z5 with adapted glass is going to be slightly better and slightly more convenient for all aspects (except ovf clarity in dim venues and battery life) because it is much more recent. The D750 has been a staple for event photography for the better part of 5-6 years after its release. It's still as capable, it's just less compelling in comparison with newer cameras.
A lot of new photographers are shopping older cameras thinking surely they are cheaper, and at the making of this video, DSLR are inflated, and Nikons DX mirrorless lens support is very poor. Thanks for commenting
I struggle to believe Nikon is jus going to abandon the millions of F mount lens users. The fallout would surely be some would switch to the Z mount and many would just change systems and go with Cannon, Sony , Lumix etc? They surely have to maintain and develop further their F mount range?
They definitely will kill it. I’m mean they pretty much have. Canon already did too. Probably time for people to consider mirrorless as their next purchase when their Dslr does. Thanks for commenting Ian!!
@@ZWadePhoto unfortunately you are probably right. I think the major camera manufacturers have forgotten about the average amateur photographer in the pursuit of "perfection". There is a massive market in F mount lens users just waiting for someone.....
You can just use your f mount lenses with the ftz adapter so why would someone choose to lose a bunch of money selling all their lenses when they can buy a cheap adapter and continue to use their f mount lenses on newer better cameras?
I’d like to see a version 2 at some point, but I think the demand or a version 3 Z6 is probably the hottest topic and would be a bigger sell out if the gate. I gave up trying to guess what Nikon is up to haha
I plan to get my first camera ever. One of my photographer friend was using d610 them got a z5 but shifted to d750. He is making me to opt for d750. Another friend is in favour of z5. I have loved photography but this would be my proper experience with a camera. What would you suggest? I’d be grateful for an insight about this.
At this point, I’d say Z5. There are more native F-mount lenses, and many Z lenses are expensive. But since you’re learning, you don’t need the expensive Z lenses. A Z5 kit is less expensive now than d750. Even new. I’d go with the Z5. You’ll get more moving into the future, probably not needing to upgrade for a VERY long time. That’s just my advice though 🤷♂️
That’s very kind of you to leave a speedy reply. I am truly grateful for the opinion. ☺️ The friend who’s using z5 said that its a bit soft and that it isn’t focussing well. That was the place I stumbled. But thank you for the insight once again. 👍🏻 I am more into portraits but I always capture landscapes, do you think I should opt for kit or 85mm if I only have to get 1 at a time?
@@meharyarhaider9181 you’re very welcome. The camera doesn’t make a soft image, the lens and photographer does. Also I encourage you to learn the right way and use single point auto focus for awhile and be very deliberate with your choice of subject. For your first lens, it depends what direction you go. When you decide between the 2 cameras let me know and I’ll give you a lens recommendation.
@@ZWadePhoto I mean I know the person does the soft image just wanted to share it with you too. I’d be focusing more on portraits for sure. I mostly do landscapes when I am going for hiking and travelling which I do once in 2 months or so. However, I’d definitely ask you. The reasons you told above and that z5 is also a much newer camera and above all a mirrorless at a good price makes me opt for it more. But once I am going for it I’d ask you. Thank you again, I am truly grateful for such speedy replies and the help. ☺️
@@meharyarhaider9181 keep in mind that the Z5 and 750 have practically if not exactly the same sensor, so you might as well start off in the new Lens mount. I’m gonna make a video just for you answering your points how’s that sound?! See you soon
D750 is the winner with fast autofocusing performence and best high iso performence. Z5 is a entry level toy camera designed for daily normal family photos. D750 is professional level camera.
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For those of us that cover events in low light like weddings and receptions, mirrorless has some significant disadvantages in autofocus. If you always use large aperture lenses and shoot wide open all the time, then you may not notice, but the fact that all autofocus in an SLR happens with the lens wide open, and you get the benefit of AF assist from a flash or even just a near-IR illuminator. Mirrorless and that WYSIWYG mode always stops the lens down to your taking aperture, so if you need f8 to get everyone at a table acceptably sharp, you are handicapping your mirrorless autofocus by starving it of light. This is a problem with each mirrorless system I have tried in the last 12 years. So that 24-70 f2.8 lens that has so many advantage on a DSLR even if i select f8 as my aperture for the exposure, suddenly becomes a hindrance on mirrorless. from f2.8 to f8 is 3 stops. In that scenario, the AF system in the mirrorless camera has to make decision with 1/8th the light that the DLSR will have to work with just by design. I have a Z5 i use regularly, but I have tried for the last couple of years to adapt it to the indoor venue things that i cover regularly, and it's just not nearly as effective as the DSLR's that i have. Even as lame as the autofocus is on a D800, it still gets me a higher percentage of in-focus shots. My sad little D5300 and D7200 are even better than that. the newer camera certainly has a sensor capable of impressive low light performance, but the autofocus will always have one hand tied behind its back.
Thanks for commenting
Nive comparison video. I have both D750 and Z5, both purchased new, love them both. Shot a wedding in June, started out with Z5, kit lens, and adapted lenses. It worked so well, D750 stayed in the bag.
I’ve Patrick! I appreciate you watching!
I just ordered a Z5 to be a back up to my Z6 II. I am a mostly wedding and portrait shooter. I have full confidence the Z5 will fill my needs in both those disciplines.
Nice mark! Thanks for commenting
Pretty good and straight-forward advice, I'll say. Since this is targeted more towards beginners and/or budding enthusiasts on budget I'd just like to add a few things from my own experience. We tend to overthink a little, a lot even, when it comes to a new purchase while overlooking practical outcomes. For example - many new users are told by reviews or experts that brand A or mount A is better than brand B/mount B 'cause it has a much larger selection of lenses. Now having a multitude of options is all better n well but what good it does for someone who can't afford (or need) 95% of those! it's different for pros who earn a livelihood from photography and requires such flexibility. From my experience most of your everyday hobbyists stick with their initial set-up and plans for upgrades don't often follow-up which is why one needs to exercise a bit commonsense and remember what they really need or how much of it can they practically afford. Sure the F-mount has some of the best glasses Nikon ever produced but does it have any equivalent for the cheap and lightweight yet super-sharp "kit" Z 24-70 f/4? Or the more versatile Z 24-120 f/4 with equally brilliant sharpness (optically better and focuses faster than its F-mount counterpart), close focus and ~0.40x magnification ratio? For someone who doesn't own older FF glasses, the quality of Z-mount lenses alone can make the choice much easier.
I agree. New folks should go the affordable route, and pros should switch when they HAVE to . Thanks for commenting!
I use the Z5 as a backup to my Z6II and as my daily driver that I use with the 40F2 . I bought my Z5 like New used from MPB for around $960 and I’m very happy with it .
That’s a heck of a deal. I’d buy a Z5 for that price today.
@@ZWadePhoto yeah it’s a decent deal .
Went from a D200 to the Z5. You could argue if you use the Dx crop, the two are close to identical. I miss the sturdiness of the D200 but as I grow older I appreciate small weight savings. I got the kit with 24-200. Great for an everyday thing. Got the 40/2 and its superb for what I do. You have sold me on the 20/1.8 and am very tempted on the 105.
Great channel, really surprised you don't have more subs but RUclips has pointed me in the direction of other channels your size that have grown to more than a few hundred thousand quite quickly so hopefully you will be one of those.
I don’t know what YT is doing with me the. Hahaha I’d love to have 200k lol thanks for watching and hanging out Rob.
I’m just a beginner, and was having a really hard time deciding which first camera should I get. This helped a lot. Going for the Z5
Awesome Isai! Glad I could help!
I have been tossing around which camera to purchase as i upgrade from my D7100 your video has helped me in that decision…Z5. Thanks
Hey man glad I could help! Thanks for commenting!
I have a d610. Like you, I bought it when Nikon sold it with the grip, 50mm 1.8, and wi-fi adapter for near 900.00. Couldn’t even pass that deal up. Such an awesome camera. One day I do plan on getting the Z5. I really like the idea to that you can see exposure in real time and to also place focus points just about anywhere in the frame.
Oh man, first off thanks for watching and I hope to see you more around the channel, second, I love the z5. It my take everywhere camera. Excellent sensor. Check out my Z5 videos 🙏🙏
I agree going Z5 if just starting even though I still shoot with my wife as a second shooter using a d600 & D610. She has been using (2) D750's & a D810 but will be getting a Z6II this week that has been on backorder for a month.
Picked up a refurbished Z5 and FTZ for a little over $1K. I have a lot of fast Legacy F-mount Nikon glass that is not compatible with FTZ in auto focus. Fortunately some of my Tamron lenses are updated with the Tap-on console and work as well as the G series AFS Nikon lenses. The D600's will be a very capable back up once I get more comfortable with the Z5. I have always bought used but I feel the value is there with the Z5 that will help me stay current with technology. I still shoot with a D700 and laugh a little after using a remote for it, then I used my phone as a remote for the Z5...night & day.
I really like SnapBridge with the Z cameras. Use it ALL the time including for every video since I bout into the Z. Thanks for commenting!
How do you like the z5 versus your d810 quality wise I know it’s less megapixels but other then that how is sharpness dynamic range etc thinking of switching my d810 to a z5
@@Eternal_Lens_Media Z5 is a good value with getting into mirrorless. The D810 is a very good camera, wife uses her Z6II for paid events and says the auto focus actually gets a better hit rate when doing portraits with eyes being in focus. I'm mostly a second shooter at weddings and events and Z5 uses more batteries and I wasn't all that impressed with auto focus. I shoot single point back button focus. I did the firmware update on the Z5 a few months ago and seems to of helped. I mostly shoot with the Z5 and the 24-120mm Z lens and its a good all rounder for what I do. I feel at times it's lacking but then I had faster glass and was using (2) D610's before, wife had (2) D750's plus the D810. Overall I'm good with my purchase of the Z5. I still have my D3 and D700 cameras and lots of Nikon Legacy glass. Last night I gave one of my favorite 1977 film cameras to my 25 yr old son because somehow people like the tactile mechanical feel and the process of thinking about the shot. In giving him pointers about film my wife commented how digital has made her lazy. I appreciate technology and the Z5 has made certain things easier for me but hasn't made me a better photographer.
@@C2CDisciple I appreciate your response I shoot professionally as well. I also started on film myself. I’m looking to get a Z5 because I find myself missing quite a few shots during important moments, such as weddings do the focusing slowness of the D810 I also find it, picking the wrong thing to focus on without manually selecting, and I don’t always have time to do that in a quick shoot, which is why I’m hoping the eye auto focus on the z5 will save some of these shots
Have you noticed any degradation and image quality from the D810 to the z5 in terms of dynamic range, or high ISO performance?
I appreciate you responding. You have a great day buddy also, I love that your whole families involved in Photography
@@Eternal_Lens_Media wife shot D810 more than I, so I asked her and she said with mirrorless you can push ISO more with minimal noise and li610'skes her Z better compared to the D810. Using the Z cameras I'm getting my shots without flash all the time during events and weddings. Now again I use single point focus primarily and it is easier with the Z5 compared to the DSLR's because of the joy stick and I can put the focus point wherever instead of within 9, 21 or 39 point AF with my D610's, although I did a lot of back button focus and recompose with the DSLR's.
Wife did say the eye tracking is better but still glitches with more than one person even though there is an arrow to select who you want. Not to get into the weeds here but both my wife and I would recommend the Z5 over the D810 in doing weddings and events and for that matter anything
Thanks for the info. I just got the z5 for under $1,000 new. Looking forward to taking it on the road.
Nice buddy! I got mine just before November sale lol laaaame. They are dirt cheap right height for November sale.
When I switched to Nikon I was considering getting a D610 or D750, and then just buy second hand. There's enough second hand gear on the market, so I wouldn't miss out for the first couple of years or three. But then what, when the second hand gear will break and there market will shrink? At that time I would had to invest in a new system again, and I wouldn't be able to sell my Nikon gear, whatever was left of it.
The Z5 is such a great camera and the price allows most people to get it. It's the perfect camera for getting into the Z-mount system, and then build from there. And contrary to other brands, Nikon is actually offering good prices, they're not going crazy with high prices. I'm glad that I pulled the trigger on the Z5 and I'm pretty convinced that this is the system for me.
That said, my lens collection is mostly adapted manual lenses, I love Voigtlander lenses, so when I'm done building my lens collection I wouldn't have a hard time shifting. But Nikon offers me all that I need, both when it comes to zoom lenses (where I am going natively, getting the f4 trinity of zooms, if Nikon ever makes a 70-200mm f4, otherwise I just keep on using my Nikkor 200mm f4 AIS), and their pricing is better than other brands, so I don't see any reason to switch. I'll be happy shooting until I drop with a Nikon camera in hand 🙂
Tha is for commenting!
I agree with you. The only thing missing is the Commander mode.
@@peaves in Commander mode the camera physically fights off the competitive market
I just found your channel and I’m so happy I did! After watching your great review I think I’ll keep my three Nikon D7 50‘s! I may purchase the Z5 at a later time!📷
Cool man! Glad you found me, glad I could entertain you! I hope you’ll consider subscribing and I’ll see in the next one! Thanks for commenting!
I am considering the Z5. However, all my lenses right now are F-mount. If I will get the Z5, I intend to use it with my F-mount lenses although I may get the 50mm f/1.8s Z-mount lens because my F-mount lenses are all manual focus. The great thing about the Z5 is that there is focus peaking to make manual focusing easier and the IBIS will also be a big help. Those are the selling points from me aside from the Z5 being cheaper than the D750. I also have a 35mm film camera and its focusing screen is much brighter than the focusing screen for DSLR's. The brightness makes it much easier to manually focus on a 35mm film camera in my opinion. I used to have a D800 but I already sold it so I am looking for a new digital camera to go with my 35mm film camera.
I enjoyed the Z5. I hope you will too. Thanks for commenting
Bought my Z5 9 months ago coming from a D700. It took a while but now I love the Z5. The Z lenses are so good.
Oh yea the Z glass kicks ass. ThanKs for watching!
Better than the d700 ?
very interesting, thanks for this video. the z5 just came down in price, just under 1000....NEW. so its either a used d800 etc for around 7or 8, or spend the extra to get new tech. LOL, and you brought up the d610, i was thinking about the d610, for about 4 or 5, but you are right, with IBIS, i can used some older glass that is not VR and take advatage of the IBIS (but not auto focus). the focus peaking seems to be a great feature. i think its time i go mirrorless, or get a cheap d610. i know this seems silly, but i am not a pro and tend to like cameras under 500, the logic being that if they get stolen or smashed, the loss is not as bad. thanks
Glad I could help.
those r the 2 cameras i use the d750 & few month ago i get good deal on used z5 most my lenses tamron f mount z mount i have only the 24-50 kit lens , if i use the z5 with out the tracking option i get fair auto focus , i also use my z5 in law light & most of the time im happy with results ,im waiting tamron or sigma to make lenses for the z mount i have most the lens i need for my way of shooting in f mount so i use them with the ftz 1 adapter i may purchase the z24-120 f4 to use daily
Oh yea man I’m ready for some Z mount Tamrons too. Tamron has been doing real good lately. Thanks for commenting!
Hi, thanks for explaining the differences! I have a D7000 and am looking to upgrade to a 36 mm sensor camera. Second hand I could get a D750 for about $500 or the Z5 for about $900 - would your recommendation still be the same, considering that in your recommendation the D750 is actually more expensive than the Z5? I'm leaning towards the D750 myself. I don't shoot video.
I actually own the Z5 now, and yes I would still recommend the z5. Nikon mirrorless lenses are stunning and if you’re upgrading now, you’d might as well future proof your upgrade.
Check out my newest z5, I also have a lot of Z5 content backlogged coming up
@@ZWadePhoto hi Wade, thanks for replying so fast! I'll have another look at the Z5 then. What I don't like about it is the lack of top screen and the (supposedly?) slower autofocus. Also, I have a few (DX) lenses with F-mount so the Z5 would be a much more expensive endeavour.
@@TillRaguin honestly, I have the Z5, Z6ii, Zfc, and Z9 and I haven’t looked at the top screen yet haha so I haven’t really noticed a lacking of it on the Z5.
If you do go the z5 route, I’d recommend Z5 body only, used excellent plus condition, and the Nikkei Z 40mm f/2. That lens is dirt cheap and kicks ass. I have content on that too 👌
@@ZWadePhoto I look more at the top screen of my D7000 than on the back (?) screen, tbh! I'll see what kind of deal I can get. Money is kind of a big factor for me, too. The D750 bodies I'm seeing are closer to $650 though now that I'm seeing what's available. $1000 for the Z5 bodies.
I love my D750. It's the best camera I've ever owned. But it's time to upgrade and the Z5 is what im considering moving up to.
Right on my dude!
At the time of writing this comment, I've watched the z5 drop below $1000 body only. Furthermore, now Viltrox has a suite of more affordable large aperture primes to help folks get started. I bought the Nikon z5 with the wonderful 24-70f4 for $1400 last Christmas. It's basically an unbeatable combo for the price.
That said, I have an affinity for d750 and have been shopping them for about 2 years on the used market. I've found them as low as $500 with a 50mm f/1.8G, which I consider to be a great lens. I've found people selling their entire setup, d750, 35mm, 50mm & 85mm f/1.8G lenses for less than $1000. I think there's no wrong answer here.
Body stabilization is the primary benefit of going z5 for me. Being able to stabilize primes 50mm and up is very nice! That said, my biggest complaint on all mirrorless cameras is the battery life. I don't want a pocket full of batteries... The worst DSLR battery life rivals or beats the best mirrorless battery life, including the fantastic Sony Z type batteries.
I also find myself missing the more mechanical experience that came with DSLRs.
Just shooting the breeze. Great video!
Thanks for commenting. My sessions are never long enough to ever use a full battery, but DSLR's quite literally could be left on for weeks with little impact on the battery haha.
@@ZWadePhoto That's true. And it is also true that everyone's mileage will vary. I'm a slow, walk-around & timelapse photographer primarily. So, I am probably the worst case scenario in terms of battery longevity lol.
The Z5 is a clear winner. Because of that crop in 4K, I would use it strictly as a 1080p camera. And that may be good enough for a lot of people. Not everyone needs to shoot in 4K or do super slow motion.
The only real advantage I can see for the D750 is the faster burst rate (6.5 fps vs 4.5). But neither of these cameras is going to blow anyone away with their speed. After all, the new Z6 III can shoot 14 fps mechanical and much faster with the electronic shutter.
Neither of these cameras is really for me due to their limitations for speed and video, but for the right user, the Z5 could be ideal. I am thinking about the Z6 II on the used market. It shoots full-width 4K and 12 fps mechanical.
@@danieldougan269 I think Z5s sensor is what sells it. For photos it’s such a good rendering sensor for its price. Thanks for watching!
Nikon AFD 300/2.8. screw drive costs about $1000 used in mint condition...I love the D750...(as well as the newer D500) The D750 shutter can go onwards of several hundred thousand cycles....the battery is larger so more clicks and the card slot is on the side so that a battery grip is usable (two batteries) AFD lenses are plentiful on the used market....For small portable gear I use M43...I generally prefer flip down vesus side flip rear screens... I loved the Canon eosRP gear but I ended up using mostly EF glass anyway so back to Nikon.
Well hey welcome back to Nikon! Haha and thanks for watching!
I own a D750 since 2015 and still use. Not sure as to what to upgrade z5 or z6. Or keep the D750.
Tough choice my friend. If you have the budget for a piece of Z glass, maybe the Z5. I have several Z5 videos. Check them out I actually really enjoy that camera.
If you were buying a D750 in 2022, you'd be mad to buy new. You'd be looking to pay about $750 for a decent low shutter count example and you'd wait until you found one. On the Z5: the odd thing is that the real world prices of the Z5 and Z6 mk1 are really close. In the case of the Z5 there aren't many on the used market but there are many used Z6 mk1 bodies for sale because people have upgraded to the Z6 mk2. Personally I think you'd have to really want those 2 SD card slots to make you chose a Z5 over a Z6 mk1. I currently shoot with all the D3 series bodies (love those massive optical viewfinders!) and I'm thinking of buying a Z6 mk1 for about £1000 U.K.
I started mirrorless on a Z6 until the z6ii came out. The BSI is worth the up charge, but not entirely necessary. Thanks for commenting
Very nicely explained everything I really appreciate your suggestion to rent a nikon mirrorless for testing and all 🤗👍
My pleasure!
selling my d750 and gettting a z5!!! the 14-30mm lens got me gooooood
Definitely a nice lens Tan! You’ll love it :)
Question is do I get a used D750 for $600 or a used Z5 for $800? I plan on using F lenses since I have several from my film cameras, so the Z5 would need to FTZ adapter.
If your f lenses are D series (screw drive AF) then the FTZ won’t even save you. Haha I’d keep a DSLR around if Nikon would make a screw drive adapter. I can manual focus just fine, but I like AF 95% of the time
I purchase a D750 when it was launch way back then and I'm still using it now, wanted to get the D780 but it was over my budget, also considering the z6 but the AF wasn't good enough than and it only have 1 card slot and using the xqd card whic is quite expensive, z5 hit the sweet spot for my needs and skills. I think we are in the same stage when DSLR is taking over SLR or cassette to CD, or VHS to DVD the technology of mirrorless (IMHO - I'm not a pro photographer) outweigh the DSLR camera body's, bottom line is, it's more about the skills and knowledge about photography rather than the gear, you can give a z9 to a newbie and compare his photos vs a pro using a D3100 with a kit lens and I can bet you the pro photographer will produce better images.
Noice my guy. Enjoy that Z5! Thanks for commenting
Good morning, how are you doing? Am using Nikon d750 thinking to switch to Nikon Z5 but I don’t know if the picture quality is better than Nikon d750
I have shot and love both. They say the Z5 is the same sensor. It might be the same “kind of” sensor, but have extensively shot both, the Nikon Z5 does look and feel newer. The 750 is awesome, even in 2022, but to my eye I can see that the Z5 images don’t look dated. I think when you’re ready to upgrade, you will love the Z5 for image quality AND the benefits you get from mirrorless. I can’t go back now I’m hooked haha. Hope this helped and thanks for watching
I think the real value of a d750/d610/d600 comes from buying it dirt cheap used and having so many amazing and cheap lenses that are being sold for peanuts. That includes the af, af-d and af-g ones.
@@PitlordWeedsmurph oh for sure now. Prices have finally dropped. Around that time we were seeing Nikon D610 and 750s well over 1000-1500.
I'm currently own d600. Thought of change my camera. Can zwade suggest which should I get d750 or z5?
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Great video thanks, I own the D750 and have my eye on the Z5. If you don't mind I have 3 things to add. 1 The buffer on the D750 fills quickly when burst shooting and fps slows considerably there are comparisons on RUclips that actually show the Z5 getting more fps if you burst long enough. 2 Cost, I would disagree, as the lenses for the F mount system are way cheaper and readily available I'd say if buying used the D750 will save you money when you factor in higher end glass. Last point is low light (non flash) photography I have had to push the D750 up to 10,000 and wasn't happy with the grainy results (not sure if the Z5 is cleaner at high ISO)
Hey Jeff. Good points thanks for commenting!
Z5 can't go beyond iso800..
Heavy noise after that
@@c.bwijesinghe2259 that’s just about every camera. I don’t like grain of any camera higher than 800z. Thanks for commenting
@@c.bwijesinghe2259 что за бред, рабочее ИСО на nikon z5 - до 5000
what is this BS man, the ISO on Z5 is absolutely fine and useful at least until 5000@@c.bwijesinghe2259
The Z line is Nikons future so that is something to think about. But there are so many great F mount lenses out there.
I agree. Thanks for commenting Terry!
Z5 is a great camera... Why would you even bother to buy a D750 if you buying your first camera or going full frame.
Z5 all the way, but me personally if you have budget I would take Z7II or Z6II...
But if you have an D750 in your bag then by all means shoot with it. Its a great camera that will produce great pictures. If it doesnt its your fault, go take classes how to shoot.
Buuuut pictures coming from Z are just sharper for me. And EVF is just winner for me personally.
Z5 is a entry level, but a great entry level. It has lot going on.
My dream kit right now would be a Z5 and Z7II...
My opinion only 😊
Whoop whoop! Thanks for commenting Dean!
I don't really agree with some of your premises.
Unless you are rather wealthy, there is no way one should recommend a full frame $1k camera to a beginner.
If the beginner is about learning photography then they can start with a phone, with a point and shoot, with a bridge, with a second hand 6 year old dslr. Anything onto which they have some kind of manual control to start learning the effects of the settings, composition and post processing.
If the person doesn't care about photography but wants much better results than a phone, a sony alpha apsc camera with recent AF system is pretty much all they need and that's around 500 with a lens used.
If someone is considering the D750 and the Z5 and is not already an advanced user or with incomes directly tied to photo, I'd talk them into other less trendy and less sexy cameras which are great learning platforms.
I don't think there are many system as good as a D5xx when it comes to learning. All those old manual lenses that can be had for cheap makes it a dream to experiment and solidify one's interest in photography. They are compatible up to the latest F mount cameras as well and are pretty capable in A S M modes.
When it comes to doing professional work, I'm convinced that while the D750 remains really capable, a Z5 with adapted glass is going to be slightly better and slightly more convenient for all aspects (except ovf clarity in dim venues and battery life) because it is much more recent.
The D750 has been a staple for event photography for the better part of 5-6 years after its release. It's still as capable, it's just less compelling in comparison with newer cameras.
A lot of new photographers are shopping older cameras thinking surely they are cheaper, and at the making of this video, DSLR are inflated, and Nikons DX mirrorless lens support is very poor. Thanks for commenting
I am in the mindset that it is more expensive to to continue in f-mount and switch to mirrorless later then sooner.
Whatever works for you and makes you happy, is the way to go. Thanks for watching!
Thanks man! So what I mean is that I agree with you switch sooner then later. @@ZWadePhoto
agree, coning from a z50 and a 6006
Right on John! Don’t forget to update you Z50 to firmware 2.4!
I struggle to believe Nikon is jus going to abandon the millions of F mount lens users. The fallout would surely be some would switch to the Z mount and many would just change systems and go with Cannon, Sony , Lumix etc? They surely have to maintain and develop further their F mount range?
They definitely will kill it. I’m mean they pretty much have. Canon already did too. Probably time for people to consider mirrorless as their next purchase when their Dslr does. Thanks for commenting Ian!!
@@ZWadePhoto unfortunately you are probably right. I think the major camera manufacturers have forgotten about the average amateur photographer in the pursuit of "perfection". There is a massive market in F mount lens users just waiting for someone.....
You can just use your f mount lenses with the ftz adapter so why would someone choose to lose a bunch of money selling all their lenses when they can buy a cheap adapter and continue to use their f mount lenses on newer better cameras?
Is z5ii coming this Dec 2023?
I’d like to see a version 2 at some point, but I think the demand or a version 3 Z6 is probably the hottest topic and would be a bigger sell out if the gate. I gave up trying to guess what Nikon is up to haha
@@ZWadePhoto tq bro
The Z5 isn't just for beginners. Any Canberra can be used by enthusiasts and pros
Priced for entry, performs like a pro
Thk u
You’re welcome!
at this point people should just get into the Z system.
I agree at this point. Thanks for commenting!
I plan to get my first camera ever. One of my photographer friend was using d610 them got a z5 but shifted to d750. He is making me to opt for d750.
Another friend is in favour of z5.
I have loved photography but this would be my proper experience with a camera.
What would you suggest?
I’d be grateful for an insight about this.
At this point, I’d say Z5. There are more native F-mount lenses, and many Z lenses are expensive. But since you’re learning, you don’t need the expensive Z lenses. A Z5 kit is less expensive now than d750. Even new. I’d go with the Z5. You’ll get more moving into the future, probably not needing to upgrade for a VERY long time. That’s just my advice though 🤷♂️
That’s very kind of you to leave a speedy reply. I am truly grateful for the opinion. ☺️ The friend who’s using z5 said that its a bit soft and that it isn’t focussing well. That was the place I stumbled. But thank you for the insight once again. 👍🏻 I am more into portraits but I always capture landscapes, do you think I should opt for kit or 85mm if I only have to get 1 at a time?
@@meharyarhaider9181 you’re very welcome. The camera doesn’t make a soft image, the lens and photographer does. Also I encourage you to learn the right way and use single point auto focus for awhile and be very deliberate with your choice of subject. For your first lens, it depends what direction you go. When you decide between the 2 cameras let me know and I’ll give you a lens recommendation.
@@ZWadePhoto I mean I know the person does the soft image just wanted to share it with you too. I’d be focusing more on portraits for sure. I mostly do landscapes when I am going for hiking and travelling which I do once in 2 months or so.
However, I’d definitely ask you. The reasons you told above and that z5 is also a much newer camera and above all a mirrorless at a good price makes me opt for it more.
But once I am going for it I’d ask you.
Thank you again, I am truly grateful for such speedy replies and the help. ☺️
@@meharyarhaider9181 keep in mind that the Z5 and 750 have practically if not exactly the same sensor, so you might as well start off in the new Lens mount. I’m gonna make a video just for you answering your points how’s that sound?! See you soon
agree
Thanks for watching John! Hope to see you around the channel
D750 is the winner with fast autofocusing performence and best high iso performence.
Z5 is a entry level toy camera designed for daily normal family photos.
D750 is professional level camera.
Thanks for commenting
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