Christians React To Watain The Waters of Ain

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  • @moribvndi
    @moribvndi 5 лет назад +90

    "Transylvania" is something actually deeply rooted in the veins of black metal for a very specific and sinister reason.
    Nothing to do with Dracula and B-movie monsters. The oldest reference is from Per Yngve Ohlin, aka Dead, the most known singer of Mayhem. As everyone already knows, he wore a now legendary "I

    • @rufussamsquanch_6547
      @rufussamsquanch_6547 3 года назад +1

      Well said.

    • @braylenraphael1999
      @braylenraphael1999 3 года назад

      i realize Im kinda randomly asking but does anybody know a good website to watch new movies online ?

    • @birglemir
      @birglemir 3 года назад +2

      of course i didnt hear it from his lips, but from what i understand he told a close friend also, "I am going away for a long, long time, im going to Transylvania"

    • @moribvndi
      @moribvndi Год назад

      @@Skepsis710 Dead was mentally ill. And Jon was into criminal activities before and after his jail time, check "Werewolf Legion Stockholm". Nothing edgy here, it's real shit.

  • @bmfan
    @bmfan 6 лет назад +60

    Couple things here.
    The lyrics differ from the album version since the final lines are not sung live, and are not his words to speak. As mentioned, this song is meant to be played at his funeral.
    The line about "do not mistake me for a star" was explained by Erik as “… what I’m trying to say with this lyric is that one must never mistake the extravagance and the otherworldliness of things that are still a part of creation for something that is actually not a part of creation as we know it, of God as we know it. And that’s why I’m saying, is that if people are seeing a huge source of power in Watain, don’t mistake it for a man-made power, or a God-made power, because it is completely the opposite.”

  • @rooshzam1640
    @rooshzam1640 6 лет назад +133

    This live version features Selim Lemouchi, he wrote the original solo for the song on the album too and that's why it stands out and it's just so beautiful. He was a great friend of Erik but in 2014 he took his life in the name of chaos and to join the forces of death and the next life, ever since the band never played this song live again.
    Selim's band is called The Devil's Blood which is originated from a song by the same title from Watain.
    Check it out its definitely some of the finest music you'll ever hear. Selim was a great musician and a great person in real life.
    RIC Selim Lemouchi

    • @Hanzan
      @Hanzan 6 лет назад +20

      Came here to write just this. The Devil's Blood created some of the greatest music I've heard. Well worth looking into, Selim is an incredible guitarist and songwriter.

    • @rooshzam1640
      @rooshzam1640 6 лет назад +9

      Hanzan absolutely mate, I worship that band

    • @arnlab
      @arnlab 6 лет назад +11

      Absolutely. SL was a genius and wrote some of the most beautifull music and lyrics. They should give The Devil's Blood a shot, as their music was the most genuinely that path was put to art, and all without cliché. The Yonder Beckons would be a good fit to start, or maybe The Anti-Kosmik Magick.

    • @dennie1984
      @dennie1984 6 лет назад +9

      Backing this. Vin and Sori talking about The Devil's Blood and them dissecting their lyrics would be more interesting than most "pseudo evil lyrics" bands that get summed up beneath each video.
      Also, random fact: "Ghost - He Is" is dedicated to Selim, so there's that. Even more motivation to do this.

    • @broderbroder123
      @broderbroder123 6 лет назад +4

      They do play Waters of Ain live though, they finished with that song at Wacken. +1 on the Devil's Blood recommendation

  • @TheSomberlain93
    @TheSomberlain93 6 лет назад +156

    Interesting review, we need some Dissection on this show now. i'd recommend The Somberlain or Unhallowed

    • @frankno2888
      @frankno2888 6 лет назад +10

      i guess they are gonna love Reinkaos album , with the black n roll sound

    • @Vahisofficial
      @Vahisofficial 6 лет назад +9

      Eleven as One If older, the Nights Blood. Otherwise Dark Mother Divine or Black Dragon.

    • @moonwolf2251
      @moonwolf2251 6 лет назад +11

      Eleven as One Maha Kali!

    • @gape2782
      @gape2782 6 лет назад +3

      Agreed. I would love to hear their thoughts on some of Dissection's early music. They could even talk a bit about Jon's suicide being tied to his religious views.

    • @postmortem8767
      @postmortem8767 6 лет назад +5

      has to be maha kali, where dead angels lie or unhallowed mainly as it'll be interesting with them reading the lyrics. Also I recommended this like 10 times now and still waiting haha, give me a second I'll spam their fb...

  • @benwebb4424
    @benwebb4424 6 лет назад +63

    As an atheist, I can say Watain is my band. I don't share beliefs with them, but on a musical level it speaks to the brain. The atmosphere and melodies they have just feel right. Such a great band. The fact that you guys didn't rate it means it's obviously a 12/10. You just couldn't rate them because your scale doesn't go that high.
    As for the comment about an atheist willing to debate? Maybe...
    Carcass - A Congealed Clot Of Blood

    • @AnthonyCalderwood777
      @AnthonyCalderwood777 5 лет назад +1

      no one cares if you are an atheist or not, why do all self-declared atheists have to start every sentence wity your crap believe system. atheists are same like religios zealots, seeking for discussions all the time and talking about the same nonsense all the time. watains lyrics are about honoring lucifer and qabalistic mysticism, hermetics, alchemy and so on, an atheists doesn't even understand what it's about. atheism is just a nonsense religion like others.

    • @thisisnotmyrealname6990
      @thisisnotmyrealname6990 4 года назад

      Armani Calderwood uh pretty sure atheism can’t be classified as a religion seeing as they don’t have a belief unless the rejection of a higher power and only the acceptance of science is enough to classify atheism as a religion

  • @The_Pony
    @The_Pony 6 лет назад +51

    I was just thinking how entertaining an interview between Vin and Sori and Abbath would be. Lol.

    • @natalie-kj4om
      @natalie-kj4om 6 лет назад +2

      Yeah, I would love to see that.

    • @The_Pony
      @The_Pony 6 лет назад +3

      natalie or Fenriz cos he's a sweetie pie

    • @natalie-kj4om
      @natalie-kj4om 6 лет назад +2

      Both.

    • @The_Pony
      @The_Pony 6 лет назад +3

      natalie I doubt they'd interview together but that could be fun. Or even getting Frost from Satyricon would be fun :) and Floor Jansen LOL

    • @natalie-kj4om
      @natalie-kj4om 6 лет назад +1

      Not together of cause.

  • @thomasroll8451
    @thomasroll8451 6 лет назад +30

    As far as I know "Chaos" doesn't have the same meaning in the chaos-gnostic belief system as in ordinary language. Chaos-Gnostics don't understand Chaos as a simple absence of rules but a transcendental power which intervenes in the world in mostly destructive ways. It is also often looked as a omnipotent substance (instead of God) or as a form of reality which has manifested before the rise of cosmic order (comparable to ancient egyptian cosmology). Chaos can also mean the confluence of opposites, like good and evil.

    • @QuietProphetTheWickedWarlock
      @QuietProphetTheWickedWarlock 5 лет назад +6

      Thomas Roll it’s the chaos that the ancient Mesopotamians & like you said Ancient Egyptians believed in. A primordial dimensión before the universe’s creation

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 4 года назад

      To me they just mean freedom. Chaos is what destroys regimentation and is a fun wave to ride.

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 4 года назад

      @@QuietProphetTheWickedWarlock Yes! They know they are one with the universe but aren't lame about it like new age dumb asses. I love their song "I am the earth".

    • @thomasroll8451
      @thomasroll8451 4 года назад +2

      @Trent Adam
      „...Spread thine countless tentacles
      Across the universe
      Let them spasm throughout
      The labyrinth of trembling stars...“ (stellarvore)
      „...Hail! Hail! Thou who makes the cosmos wail!
      In anguish as we fuck the world
      And sodomize the god that failed...“ (reaping death)
      U still think that Watain is about being „one“ with the universe? If you understand universe as cosmos (which literally means „order“ in ancient greek) it should be clear that watain see themselves at war with it.

  • @syntheticsleep
    @syntheticsleep 6 лет назад +16

    We definitely understand the "irony" of the order in music. It is, in fact, kind of the point that music and ritual, which are order, can be used as tools to access things that are outside of that order.

  • @devilmaggot44
    @devilmaggot44 6 лет назад +29

    Not quite sure if it has been reviewed yet, but, I think Where Dead Angels Lie by Dissection would be an interesting listen and conversation.

  • @pablomaya2735
    @pablomaya2735 6 лет назад +36

    Waters of Ain is definitely one of the Top10 best songs in the modern black metal era, that solo is insane and even better in the original recording.
    You talked about this band being just an act, I'd look more into it before making such a hasty assumption. You should try listening to Dissection (its band leader, Jon Nodtveidt, committed suicide with a shotgun in allegiance to this religious sect, and Erik Danielsson was their live session musician when he was a bassist), Night's Blood or Unhallowed.
    I like you guys and I like your channel. Cheers.

    • @jdg1120
      @jdg1120 6 лет назад +2

      Definitely a band they should do! Intelligent lyrics, good music, etc. Pretty much anything off of Storm of the Light's Bane works \m/

  • @xRuralJuroRx
    @xRuralJuroRx 6 лет назад +93

    Some tips for Black Metal:
    Emperor - Cosmic Keys To My Creations And Times
    Emperor - With Strength I Burn
    Emperor - Inno A Satana
    Emperor - The Acclamation of Bonds
    Emperor - Ensorcelled by Khaos
    Mayhem - Freezing Moon
    Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
    Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
    Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon
    Darkthrone - Kathaarian Life Code
    Satyricon - The Dawn of a New Age

    • @tommygibson9515
      @tommygibson9515 6 лет назад +2

      Valsekongen this guy knows ^

    • @fabiancastamere4761
      @fabiancastamere4761 6 лет назад

      Agreed 100%

    • @marekskalnik1439
      @marekskalnik1439 6 лет назад +2

      i would add Burzum and Shining :)

    • @Frogemoth
      @Frogemoth 6 лет назад +8

      I would add:
      Satyricon - Mother North
      Immortal - Nebular Ravens Winter
      Immortal - Sons of Nothern Darkness
      Dissection - Where Dead Angels Lie
      Dissection - Night's Blood

    • @Frogemoth
      @Frogemoth 6 лет назад +2

      Also, for a laugh:
      Impaled Nazarene - 1999: Karmageddon Warriors

  • @MiPedoteTUMBA
    @MiPedoteTUMBA 6 лет назад +17

    Malfeitor was such an awesome song! I don't think I would have come across it if you hadn't reacted to it! I'm looking forward to this review!

    • @mabii777
      @mabii777 6 лет назад +1

      MiPedoteTUMBA hey bro as a fan of Watain i recomend you "they rode on" so you can see a total different side of them

  • @squashedeyeball
    @squashedeyeball 6 лет назад +8

    16:50 Oh btw vin/sori, "Ain" (Pronounced as A-In), means "Where" in Hebrew. So when you write מאין, it's like writing "from where". So it's "the waters of where" (I guess, of where this wisdom he wants can be looked for and achieved). If you notice, in the background on the right side of their logo, there is this word exactly, אין.
    It is not to be confused with "Ein" (E-yn), which would either mean "nothing" (אין), or "the eye of" (עין).

  • @xlotuseater
    @xlotuseater 6 лет назад +10

    A Watain reaction?! I haven't been so excited for one of your videos. Haha

    • @xlotuseater
      @xlotuseater 6 лет назад +1

      Mike Rukavina oh damn, don't know how I missed the first one. Thanks!

  • @MarkBuckle
    @MarkBuckle 6 лет назад +5

    Sori - "I felt sad"
    What a perfect reaction :)

  • @mokhron
    @mokhron 6 лет назад +11

    I haven‘t yet watched it (will be the highlight of my day), but thank you soooooooooooo much for another black fire show, finally :))) ! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

    • @VinAndSori
      @VinAndSori  6 лет назад +5

      More coming soon.

    • @moritzkrohn6908
      @moritzkrohn6908 6 лет назад +1

      Watched it now and reaaally liked it :) ! Thank you so much! Before, I had no clue what 'ain' means, now I have. Two short comments: I don't think satanism is particular anti-female, for example just look at the songs 'Maha Kali' and 'Dark mother divine' of equally chaos gnostic satanist band Dissection. Second, I think they see chaos as also a source of endless potential and creativity since nothing new comes from order. People put everything to order, but initially everything new comes from the undefined, chaos.

  • @nihilist1280
    @nihilist1280 4 года назад +3

    I don't think you understand what "chaos" in this sense means. It doesn't mean anarchy, it means creativity. You cannot have creativity within order, because you are confined to boundaries of that order. Chaos is a word used to describe liberation from these boundaries, and that's the principle of chaos-gnosticism.

  • @j.h.inchaustegui6819
    @j.h.inchaustegui6819 6 лет назад +27

    Vital Remains - Dechristianize

    • @Mir1189
      @Mir1189 6 лет назад +3

      Vital Remains - Dechristianize (2007 live at metalmania) :D

    • @melkor5901
      @melkor5901 6 лет назад +1

      Yaaaas

  • @Timmorrisjr
    @Timmorrisjr 6 лет назад +6

    This is definitely Watain’s deepest song. Since you guys are Christian I’m sure you can at least relate somewhat to the depiction of entering death/the afterlife that is detailed in this track. Regarding Transylvania, I’m pretty sure it’s related to Jon Nödtveidt saying that he was going to Transylvania before he killed himself. I think it’s just symbolic of a dark afterlife. Also, I remember Erik saying in an interview that he’d much rather have a discussion about Watain’s beliefs with a Christian rather than an atheist because at least the Christian would understand the concepts that he talks about, whereas trying to explain these concepts to an atheist would be like talking to a brick wall. I think you guys understood these concepts very well, even if you didn’t agree with them.

  • @SarahMcCormick95
    @SarahMcCormick95 3 года назад +3

    If you want to watch Watain in a lighter atmosphere, you should see if you can find their Bloodstock 2012 performance i'm pretty sure it's on youtube. I was there and they performed on the main stage just as the sun was going down and right before Behemoth headlining which gave it such a stunningly eerie feel but you could also see everything that was going on.

  • @mridulmohan3213
    @mridulmohan3213 5 лет назад +2

    i didn't expect it.. i've seen a ton of your reviews.. but there was something special about this one.. love from India..

  • @MrSthorm96
    @MrSthorm96 6 лет назад +16

    Why did you guys choose such terrible quality video? The Opus Diaboli version is so much better.

  • @AeolethNionian
    @AeolethNionian 6 лет назад +4

    I love that line, "Do not mistake me for a star, though I'll shine like one at night, but behold instead the darkness between them, the devil's light." Reference to the morningstar being venus, reference to Satan being a deceiver, saying that he will appear divine in dark times, and the darkness being his light is interesting since light can be black which makes Lucifer a deeper title. Perfect description of Satan.
    Also Dracula = Vlad The Impailer a real person. The place where Dracula was is now modern day Transylvania. And it's possibly a reference to early black metal Transylvanian Hunger by Darkthrone. And Vampires are the most deceptive killers in lore. Seducing their victims and draining them of their blood to replace it with their own to corrupt them. Being associated with Transylvania there's probably symbolism there.

  • @pierreogeryd2869
    @pierreogeryd2869 5 лет назад +2

    Transylvania is used as a symbol for death, it was mentioned several times by Mayhem vocalist Dead and Jon Nödtveidt of Dissection told a friend shortly before he ended his physical life "I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania.".

  • @a7n141
    @a7n141 6 лет назад +10

    The Wild Hunt or They Rode on next please, those songs (and the album they're from) are masterpieces. That album is perfect imo. If you want something new check out Night's Blood by Dissection, Dissection had similar beliefs too to Watain.

  • @StuTheSoftwareAnalyst
    @StuTheSoftwareAnalyst 6 лет назад +3

    Gorgoroth - Prosperity and Beauty at Wacken 2008. The live gig i feel will give you a great sense of their identity and stage presence.
    By the way Transylvania is not fictional. Its a primarily forested sect of Romania. Reference in the song may not have been strictly to "Dracula"
    Cheers!

  • @Renkaru
    @Renkaru 6 лет назад +10

    There is a band called Batushka, who are a black/doom metal band that fuse those genres with Orthodox Catholic imagery and chants.
    I'd highly suggest checking out there music video for "Yekteníya IV Milost"

    • @aamermahmoud5666
      @aamermahmoud5666 6 лет назад +1

      Char Aznable I second this.

    • @Svartsejd
      @Svartsejd 6 лет назад

      Why? The lyrics are in Russian, a language they don't speak. Which mean they can't react to it and break down the lyrics. Think before you drop a name for a reaction.

    • @Renkaru
      @Renkaru 6 лет назад

      There are translations of the songs, so think before ya reply in a douchebag like manner.
      And of course they can react to the music, which I believe they'll enjoy immensely.

    • @aamermahmoud5666
      @aamermahmoud5666 6 лет назад +1

      Svartsejd there's a translation and they said in their live stream they don't mind reacting to songs in other languages they'll react to the music only

    • @opethdan2408
      @opethdan2408 6 лет назад +1

      Char Aznable I requested Batushka on another video. Can't wait to see their first show in NYC next month.

  • @stephenmolag8634
    @stephenmolag8634 6 лет назад +2

    Check out Dissection - Where Dead Angels Lie. One of Watain's longtime guitarists used to play in Dissection, until the the band's frontman committed suicide.

  • @PeAcHeS1349
    @PeAcHeS1349 6 лет назад +5

    Watain got their name from an old recording of a band called Von, the meaning of the word is unknown as far as I know. Aparently the songwriter for Von is known to ju make up words to use for song titles. Some suggest it could be a version of Wōtan, the name for Odin in old high german.
    Regarding the question of chaos in something like music that has order: Ordo ab chao, chao ab ordo, perhaps?

    • @adamhossman1303
      @adamhossman1303 6 лет назад +5

      Helldriller "Wat" is a Thai word for "temple", "Ain" is Aramaic for "nothingness". The literal translation of the name is Temple of Nothingness.

    • @PeAcHeS1349
      @PeAcHeS1349 6 лет назад +2

      Adam Hossman learning something new every day.

  • @heldertiago124
    @heldertiago124 6 лет назад +6

    Funny story, the vocalist from Watain once got knocked out by the ex vocalist from my old band because he was hitting on his wife. Good memories lol

  • @endlessend381
    @endlessend381 6 лет назад +3

    Indeed the solo is amazing. It was written by Selim Lemouchi of The Devil's Blood. On another note, The Devil's Blood have a song called "The Yonder Beckons" in which the lyrics were written by the singer of Watain.

    • @adan1272
      @adan1272 7 месяцев назад

      For some reason that solo sounds familiar to the 3rd solo in fade to black.

  • @sallbanjoman1790
    @sallbanjoman1790 6 лет назад +1

    actually Dracula's real name was Vlad dracul (Vlad devil) or Vlad tepes he was a Romanian Count who lived betwen 1431 to 1476 and was called that because he tended to impale hes enemies on wooden stakes and some rumored he would drink the blood of hes enemies and from there came the Tale of the Dracula the vampire

  • @sdmfanthony5649
    @sdmfanthony5649 6 лет назад +14

    He was right about The Devil's Light part, in theory, I guess, since Lucifer means light bringer. Damn good music and solo though.

    • @ms.felonystrutter2472
      @ms.felonystrutter2472 6 лет назад +1

      WATAIN RULE ALL BLACK METAL and the solo is payed by SL who took his own life, may his star roam freely..

    • @mattevans923
      @mattevans923 6 лет назад

      Felony Strutter SL of the 'devils blood' (lower caps intentional !) played his one and only solo on 'lawless darkness' not on this track !

    • @ms.felonystrutter2472
      @ms.felonystrutter2472 6 лет назад

      HELLO..THE MAN PLAYED ON THIS TOUR WITH THEM....DID YOU NOT KNOW? On the Decibel Mag tour he was on stage with them every night because SET is not allowed in the USA. I was not talking about the Lawless Darkness album. You are watch SL on stage on this video...

    • @AlpVonTrier
      @AlpVonTrier Год назад

      @@mattevans923 sl wrote this song's solo. That's why Erik hasn't been singing this song at concerts for years for the memory of Selim.

  • @crimsondeath7468
    @crimsondeath7468 6 лет назад +2

    Next Watain song you should react to is : THEY ROAD ON! Its a song where Erik actually sings with normal clean vocals

  • @d_walsh
    @d_walsh 2 года назад +1

    The New Watain album comes out April 29th. Maybe you all can react to the whole album. First album in 4 years for them.

  • @ardaona
    @ardaona 3 года назад +2

    that "dont worship the devil" at the end was such an obligatory disclaimer moment. :D

  • @SimonH109
    @SimonH109 6 лет назад +71

    Your blackfire isn't particularly varied is it? :P Lots of Behemoth and now two Watain.
    How about branching out to Deathspell Omega? :)

  • @AzrialSucks
    @AzrialSucks 5 лет назад +19

    So this video is my first experience with your channel and there is so much I want to say. And almost all of it is very positive. I expected something MUCH more closed minded and critical. But this touches on a lot of things I myself as an agnostic would also mention. I love how knowledgeable you are on the topic and are still able to find something positive within something inherently negative (based on perspective). I found this video while looking up the video for this song because Im currently learning how to play it. And even though I separate myself from satanism, I still find myself listening to and learning from satanic music. So, to find out that others can still appreciate the music, and separate that from the lyrics, is quite refreshing. Your breakdown is very interesting and gave me a lot to think of. A few things to mention
    1) The Necronomicon, and other satanic books refer to the Quabalistic tree of life quite a lot. Specifically when speaking of paths of life/death. So the reference to Ain isnt specifically a reference of Judism, but more than likely from authors such as Aliester Crowley and Kenneth Grant and how they use the Quabalistic Tree of Life/Death in their texts.
    2) When speaking about chaos, it's within the mind that the workings of existence, scientifically speaking, are based on energies moving where energy mindless goes. Space as a whole, is rather chaotic. The Butterfly Effect of life is rather chaotic. Some quantum activities are chaotic. Some believe that ALL things are chaotic. But I, myself, find chaos and order to eventually be the same entity. "Lawlessness" is synonamous to chaos, hence the "Lawless Darkness" title to the CD. The existence without order. The inability to accept that there is a God creating order, where there is so much to finger as "chaotic". This goes into point 3
    3) The whole "well if this happens, that negates the idea of chaos" topic sort of becomes null. The self is a creator and can control. Hence the ability to create a guitar solo. You basically become the God of your atmosphere and surroundings when you "control" or "create". That still doesnt mean all of existence is in order. That singular aspect at that time is order. We constantly create order with everything we do here. But then you could argue that WE are the Gods here. Which means when we die, there is no order anymore. Hence the notion of encompassing chaos. Also, chaos and order only applies as far as ones perception takes it. The same applies with good and evil.
    Honestly, there is so much to talk about with just these three points that I would just go on all day. I just wanted to toss something into the "pot of philosophy" here. Discussion and dialogue are ever important to discovering. This is why I choose to remain agnostic. You can question everything as long as you live, but in the end, not every question will have a perfect answer. Always listen.

    • @AzrialSucks
      @AzrialSucks 5 лет назад +3

      I wanted to add that, when speaking of the path of truth, arn't we all on this path? It's not always a choice for some people. Our minds and experiences are not equal. The path one walks is based on what is learned and experienced. Simply telling somebody what you believe will not be a learning experience to the person you told. There needs to be substance according to the criteria of the mind you are telling. If your dialogue does not hold substance to the person you are speaking to, then they will remain on the path they hold true. And honestly, truth is only in death. Sadly, we will not find absolute truth in life. Hence why people of religion use the word "faith" to explain their beliefs. What's interesting is sometimes, you will speak to a person who is obviously negating truth specifically to adhere to their ideals. And those people will feed false information to others, especially within lyrics. And when that comes about, how do you tell the difference from knowledge and experience from creative lies? Humans from the conception of recorded history have been known to hold agendas and venomous tongues. So with that, I leave you with a quote:
      "Will you love me now
      -you, whose feeling of dignity
      is a matter of subtraction?
      Will you love me
      -now that I have revealed your un-nakedness?
      Will you love me now
      -you, whose perception of justice
      equals your will to corrupt?
      Will you love me
      -when I cut through all the layers of your vanity?
      Will you love me now
      -you, who clings to a heart so fragile
      even your gods must suffer for you?
      Could you love truth?
      Could you love truth
      even in secrecy?" -Ihsahn

  • @thorwulfx1
    @thorwulfx1 6 лет назад +5

    The solo was legit, my favorite part of the song. I think that the concept of the lyrics is one that has been done and redone over the years. For instance, the basic thrust of it is almost exactly the same as Manowar's "Bridge of Death" from 1984. Different words, different tune, same idea. To give one's self to the devil freely, not as fearful object of punishment, but a willing prospective employee. The response of Christians is likely to be, "That's not how hell works. That's not how any of this works." I suppose the great difference lies in that some bands are simply exploring the idea because it sounds bad ass and metal, while others are really living the life. I suppose I can understand the idea of being a Satanist if it serves to make your life one you better understand, allowing you to overcome obstacles and be the person you hope to be. In the same way, if being a member of any faith helps you find peace and solace, giving you some greater purpose, I am for it, provided that it doesn't move you to the desire to harm others or increase the level of misery in the world. For me, I'm happy enough not knowing. Whatever I find out upon the moment of my death, I will find out. If this beautiful universe is only the beginning of my journey, then all the better. If I am but an ephemeral flicker upon the deep ocean's cresting wave, so be it. I will have lived the best I know how, and tried to add lightness to the world.

  • @Swaggycat_yt
    @Swaggycat_yt 8 месяцев назад

    I think the most important thing about this video is that Selim Lamouchi(RIP) is playing in this, he was an incredible guitarist a very unique and intelligent man. A true warrior and individual. He was definitely gone too soon.

  • @lazaroborges9609
    @lazaroborges9609 6 лет назад +7

    I'd suggest Dissection - The Somberlain or Spawn of Possession - The Apparition

    • @melkor5901
      @melkor5901 6 лет назад

      Mirzuth oh fuck yeah spawn of possession

  • @riivaus
    @riivaus 6 лет назад +1

    I think that Transylvania term in lyrics refers to Mayhem band's singer Per 'Dead' Ohlin. The same man killed himself and wore a shirt that stated "I

  • @normantompkins5152
    @normantompkins5152 6 лет назад +8

    Entombed-wolverine blues

  • @vladradulescu6113
    @vladradulescu6113 6 лет назад +2

    It's a good thing you react to non-mainstream metal acts.

  • @LOLcifer_
    @LOLcifer_ 6 лет назад +3

    Great intepretation! If you do another Watain song, check out "They Rode On", it's basically a ballad influenced by the the European myth of the "The Wild Hunt" and by the 1985 western novel Blood Meridian. Erik sings in totally clean vocals on this track.

  • @alanthompson2753
    @alanthompson2753 6 лет назад +1

    So glad you did this, hoped for the studio version though

  • @misanthrophy666o2
    @misanthrophy666o2 6 лет назад +1

    Only in classic music i think exits the same variety of beauty and sadness even darkness not to mention the musically complexity

  • @syntheticsleep
    @syntheticsleep 6 лет назад +3

    You should not assume that they don't respect women. I think that there is actually far more respect than what we are surrounded with in our culture today.

  • @paladineXD
    @paladineXD 4 года назад +1

    One of my fave songs, never heard this live version. Its beautiful.

  • @rileyrose1518
    @rileyrose1518 6 лет назад +9

    Talk with Nergal from Behemoth. That would be awesome.

    • @annamiller6338
      @annamiller6338 5 лет назад +5

      I don't think either Nergal or Erik would ever want to waste their time on shit like this 😂 the discussion is doomed from the beginning... I have really no idea what they can discuss in a constructive way whatsoever 😀

    • @thisisnotmyrealname6990
      @thisisnotmyrealname6990 4 года назад

      Anna Miller it would just be another mindless and pointless interview

    • @joeyuzwa891
      @joeyuzwa891 4 года назад

      Nergal would do nothing but call them idiots, it’d be pointless.

  • @LordAsharak
    @LordAsharak 6 лет назад +17

    Funeral Mist - Agnus Dei
    Funeral Mist - Holy Poison
    Funeral Mist - Jesus Saves!
    Or anything from Funeral Mist really.
    Think it's time you went into something really chaotic and violent.

    • @Dauthaz
      @Dauthaz 5 лет назад +3

      Agreed. Holy Poison!

    • @Fred-ck1gh
      @Fred-ck1gh 5 лет назад +3

      Blessed curse!

  • @Asterocampa73
    @Asterocampa73 6 лет назад +1

    Transylvania refers to the letter that Jon Nodtveit wrote before his suicide, he wrote that he will have a long travel to Transylvania.

  • @erhangenc605
    @erhangenc605 6 лет назад +1

    empyrium-the ensemble of silence
    empyrium-mourners
    empyrium-ode to melancholy
    very melancholy band
    thanks

  • @someonesusingmyname
    @someonesusingmyname 6 лет назад

    To strive for chaos is not anti-order, it's anti /imposed/ order. Ideally, energy can be ordered to impose or enact your own will.

  • @nils5471
    @nils5471 6 лет назад +1

    14:05 That "this is the shit"- pointing 😁

  • @nerdbeef1196
    @nerdbeef1196 3 месяца назад

    OMFG That fucking sentence "Do not mistake me for a star"

  • @AphoticOctopus
    @AphoticOctopus 6 лет назад

    In terms of chaos, it is limitless; therego anything is possible. It could be argued complexity has a greater potential in pure chaos. Things more complex than order could ever allow due to it's limitations.

  • @darkmarv8045
    @darkmarv8045 6 лет назад +7

    The solo of Waters of Sin is fantastic.
    One of the best black metal solo along with the solo of Freezing Moon by Mayhem, Spleen by Peste Noire, Sinn Koronation by Katharsis, Valkyrie by Nokturnal Mortum, Dark Mother Divine by Dissection and Triumphant Gleam by Darkthrone.

    • @Dean4471
      @Dean4471 Год назад

      It's pretty good as far as black metal solos go. In the grand scheme of metal, it's nothing special.

  • @moetasimrady8876
    @moetasimrady8876 6 лет назад +6

    Between the buried and me- White Walls

  • @richardmerkin69
    @richardmerkin69 6 лет назад +2

    Primordial - As Rome Burns
    Pagan blackened metal from Ireland. You will not be disappointed.

  • @I-Support-The-Mujahidin
    @I-Support-The-Mujahidin 4 года назад +2

    Lyrics:
    Take me home
    Ye beckoning ocean waves!
    My vessel is prepared
    Eagerly, my spirit yearns
    Through the gates, Transylvania calls
    Anointed am I
    Exalted on a course to man averse
    Cloven-hooved my footsteps be
    The self withdrawn
    Expanding as the rays of death illuminate
    The bridge and the path to the waters of Ain
    Where no corner's define
    To the waters of Ain
    Where no circles confine
    To the waters of Ain
    To the twilight of time
    To the Death
    To unmask the featureless face and know its numbing beauty
    To remove the fig leaf from her cunt and enter
    Beyond!
    To pluck the fruits forbidden
    Ye grapes most ripe, ye blessings of the underworld
    Unleash your bitter rivers
    Burn this tongue of mine
    Oh wormwood sweet
    Damnation's infernal wine
    From the waters of Ain
    Where no corner's define
    From the waters of Ain
    Where no circles confine
    Flow, ye waters of Ain
    As wormwood and wine
    To the Death!
    Their waters as one water in a stream against all streams
    Sweet and salt now intermingle in the waking veins of Kingu
    The havens tower in the yonder now
    Where my vessel shall set sail
    A voyage without end across the ageless waters
    To shine beyond
    Do not mistake me for a star
    Though I’ll shine like them at night
    But behold instead the darkness in between them
    The Devil’s light
    Fearless I tread at the outpost
    The brilliant abode of the dark
    At the bridge from the known to the great unseen
    I shall not linger
    Saturn, great dark in the yonder
    I give you my soul to devour
    So that I may be judged in your deathlike glare
    And purified
    For thou art the wisdom’s keeper
    The shoreline where truth shall unwind
    A truth that in life I am doomed to search
    But shall die to find
    And so his burning ship departs out from these shores
    Never to return
    And so he sets his sail
    Towards the setting sun at the end of the world

  • @e.m.hcarnicero1321
    @e.m.hcarnicero1321 6 лет назад +5

    Deicide - Homage for Satan
    I believe yall will enjoy AT LEAST the solo from Ralph Santolla.
    RIP Ralph Santolla

  • @dannysandoval5837
    @dannysandoval5837 6 лет назад +2

    Swansong for a raven by cradle of filth! Its a sequel to her ghost in a fog. Amazing song and lyrics

  • @RevelationNone
    @RevelationNone 6 лет назад +2

    I actually was listening to this earlier and thought I would love to see them do this. One of my favorites from Watain

    • @RevelationNone
      @RevelationNone 6 лет назад +1

      I haven't seen that live video but they were playing like shit that night

    • @RevelationNone
      @RevelationNone 6 лет назад +1

      Long songs are normal in black metal

    • @RevelationNone
      @RevelationNone 6 лет назад +1

      Want complete random music listen to blut Aus nord. Completly fucked up chaos

  • @フレドリク
    @フレドリク 6 лет назад +10

    Marduk - Accuser / Opposer

    • @AChrivia
      @AChrivia 4 года назад

      Gaze of Fate Marduk has many names.

  • @qelipothaumiel
    @qelipothaumiel 6 лет назад +1

    Crazy you mentioned the word lawlessness because the song is from a album called Lawless Darkness:D Same as Malfeitor.

  • @alanthompson2753
    @alanthompson2753 6 лет назад +4

    Watain are great...BUT, if you're looking for their idols and the perfect band for a Black Fire episode is Dissection. They were theistic Satanists who worshipped in the cult of the Misanthropic Luciferian Order( MLO) who believe in Azerate, 11 demons as 1 led by Satan to take down the Demiurge (creator God who they think is a tyrant) and bring chaos (infinite realms, whereas we live in the cosmos which are 3 dimensions). The lead guitarist and vocalist John Nodveigt killed himself in 06

  • @JM-jx7vk
    @JM-jx7vk 6 лет назад

    Transylvania refers to Dead of Mayhem who said before he commited suicide that I will go to Transylvania. He also wore a shirt " Il love Transylvania", so Watain here is referring to suicide.

    • @JM-jx7vk
      @JM-jx7vk 6 лет назад

      Also Nödtveidt from Dissection said before he commited suicide something that he will be going to a trip to Transylvania which refers to the tragic end of Dead of Mayhem,

  • @blackmetal8154
    @blackmetal8154 6 лет назад +1

    Waters of Ain is my favourite song of Watain

    • @mandalorbeskar
      @mandalorbeskar 3 года назад +1

      This song would be perfect for a ship burial

  • @ivaclarice6060
    @ivaclarice6060 6 лет назад +3

    Dissection, Night's Blood - live Rebirth

  • @megazombien
    @megazombien 6 лет назад +1

    Gorgoroth- Carving a giant (uncensored)
    Belphegor- Baphomet
    Dissection- Maha kali

  • @TheIncredibleEgg
    @TheIncredibleEgg 6 лет назад +2

    As for the band members happiness. I have aquintances who has met them. The lead singer is somewhat approachable. The lead-singer of their co-band Dissection, killed himself for religious purposes, after having been released from prison for a murder that was done in a park next to where i live. Another thing to understand, is that very little of this is about entertainment

  • @Fred-ck1gh
    @Fred-ck1gh 2 года назад +1

    The live version on the live album/DVD Opus Diaboli is even more epic!

  • @melvinandrade2682
    @melvinandrade2682 6 лет назад +1

    Poets of the Fall - Carnival of Rust, Drama for Life and Choice Millionaire
    Machine Head - A Farewell to Arms, Descend the Shades of Night and Imperium
    Linkin Park - Given Up

  • @yggdasil
    @yggdasil 6 лет назад

    Transylvania is probably a reference to the swedish black metal legend Deads last photo where he is wearing a "I love Transylvania" t-shirt. Jon from Dissection said in one of the last interviews that he was going to "Transylvania". Few days later he was found dead, blew his brains out just like Dead. Difference was that Jon did it in a ritualistic setting.

    • @yggdasil
      @yggdasil 6 лет назад

      Check out the picture on the bootleg "Dawn of the Black Hearts".

  • @perennialcoma
    @perennialcoma 6 лет назад

    A fucking great video. I enjoy your Watain videos a lot.
    And again, I need to ask for THERION - LAND OF CAANAN

  • @emiliantoutkewicz9286
    @emiliantoutkewicz9286 2 года назад

    I feel that to Watain their music is just a preparation to return to chaos, so to me it makes sense

  • @fmorin71234
    @fmorin71234 6 лет назад +9

    Celtic Frost A dying god coming to human flesh please

  • @frankno2888
    @frankno2888 6 лет назад

    thanks a lot for this one , you cheered me up a little bit , let say someone broke my heart yesterday and i was (am) not really alright , so thanks it made me forget a little bit

  • @Sideswipe225
    @Sideswipe225 6 лет назад +7

    Vektor-Tetrastructural Minds!

  • @brandanmckenzie
    @brandanmckenzie 6 лет назад

    Checking in with the usual request

  • @FutileGrief
    @FutileGrief 6 лет назад +9

    My dudes, you should react to Emperor! Inno a Satana (like hymn to satan)

  • @HughSelwynMauberley
    @HughSelwynMauberley 6 лет назад +6

    For the next Black Fire you should do Dechristianize by Vital Remains.

  • @sallbanjoman1790
    @sallbanjoman1790 6 лет назад

    its raining its pouring
    and the old man's snoring...

  • @Viimane
    @Viimane 6 лет назад

    Transylvania is a part of Romania that used to belong to Hungary until WWI :) In fact, there is a river called Ain in France, I don`t know if he was referring to it. I thought it was a fictional river, but it turned out to exist in reality.

  • @neonrain9563
    @neonrain9563 6 лет назад +2

    I said it before and say it again you need to hear dissection,as watain would say,the ways of old....
    they quite often play the somberlain by dissection as an encore as the last song at their shows as a tribute to their masters
    Erik also played bass in dissection on their final tour

  • @thisisnotmyrealname6990
    @thisisnotmyrealname6990 4 года назад

    Just to end further confusion transylvania is just a region in Romania I’m surprised that nobody said anything about it, it’s not a fictional location...

  • @shashvutyechuri3197
    @shashvutyechuri3197 6 лет назад +6

    They should've listened to the "opus diaboli" version. It would've been better and much bad ass.

  • @ErinWi
    @ErinWi 6 лет назад

    "Truth that unwinds": what if it's a two-pronged metaphor? The truth "unwinds" like a spool of thread, becoming fulling known only at the point of death, but it also "unwinds" the dying individual, revealing everything about them, and so forth.

  • @katpocalypsemeow4554
    @katpocalypsemeow4554 6 лет назад +2

    Was it raining when you recorded this? It sounds like it raining in the background. And we need more Cradle of Filth videos!

    • @VinAndSori
      @VinAndSori  6 лет назад +1

      Yes!

    • @dannysandoval5837
      @dannysandoval5837 6 лет назад

      Good luck with cradke bro lol...so manypeople requesting and no luck so far

  • @Codester1222
    @Codester1222 6 лет назад +1

    Blessthefall - Welcome Home!!!!!!

  • @Hairmetalfan1990
    @Hairmetalfan1990 6 лет назад +5

    Bathory - Through Blood By Thunder!

  • @ssowo4663
    @ssowo4663 6 лет назад +9

    behemoth ben shar

  • @chainsawsforballs
    @chainsawsforballs 2 месяца назад

    Vin is one of the most open minded and intelligent Christians I've met. Not to denigrate other Christians, but most I've spoken with do not know nearly what he knows as far as religion goes. He also knows this is an overtly satanic band, and will still respect the music.

  • @douglas2510
    @douglas2510 4 года назад

    You guys are awesome. Is so nice to see how you two talks so naturally. Life lesson listening to your talk not only for christians but to every human creature. I would love to talk to you guys one day.

  • @misha49ish
    @misha49ish 6 лет назад +1

    Love the breakdown !

  • @vitakulaa
    @vitakulaa 6 лет назад +104

    burzum DUNKELHEIT PLZZZ

    • @The_Pony
      @The_Pony 6 лет назад

      vitakula akhilsai YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

    • @Aevius1200
      @Aevius1200 6 лет назад +3

      YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Any Burzum will do.

    • @The_Pony
      @The_Pony 6 лет назад

      Alec Ashmore agreeeeee!

    • @VinAndSori
      @VinAndSori  6 лет назад +5

      Title?

    • @The_Pony
      @The_Pony 6 лет назад +3

      VinAnd Sori ruclips.net/video/Tw-v2rHnDAA/видео.html

  • @charliecarroll8232
    @charliecarroll8232 6 лет назад

    Awesome video

  • @moai834
    @moai834 6 лет назад +4

    Do more progressive stuff please. Like this:
    Ayreon - The Day That The World Breaks Down
    (11 famous singers in one song, concept album)
    BTBAM - Ants Of The Sky or White Walls
    (Brutal prog metal with elements of fun, concept album)
    Haken - Falling Back To Earth
    (Buildup and resolution at finest, concept album)
    Next to None - The Wanderer
    (Tehno elements in a song, 18-19 years old)
    Native Construct - Mute
    (Prog metal orchestra, Devin Townsend feel, concept album)
    Intervals - Epiphany
    (Djazz (Djent + Jazz), instrumental)
    Leprous - Bilateral
    (New prog with old feel)

    • @moai834
      @moai834 6 лет назад

      Orange Man Good suggestion, but TDTTWBD is better for first listen.

    • @moai834
      @moai834 6 лет назад

      Orange Man Yeah that would be cool.
      Maybe Native Construct also.

  • @cle3992
    @cle3992 6 лет назад

    And this goes out to everyone that's listening to us I'm watching this unfold now you know what these people really are