It’s literally because he stalled that move 😭 if he used any other variations mid combo it would’ve done 40 + bouncing fish as a combo ended which would be 50-60
@@echospace7347 I think OP was exaggerating a bit, but the spirit of the comment is that Sheik seems to need to be so creative with her combo routes and put in so much effort to get close to the damage other high/top tiers can regularly achieve just with pretty formulaic strings (which is why Sheik is sick, but...)
Sparg0 has the fastest IN GAME adaptations of any top player. I thought game two w Sora was going to be a 2 stock victory for Kameme, but he crawls back so effortlessly. I'd bet on him against just about anyone
When are people going to realize Sheik is not a top tier? I know players like Tweek swear she’s top 5 but results and even theory craft don’t show it. It takes so many hits and so much work to equal the damage output from 2-3 piece bnb combos from actual top tiers. And most of them can net kills from simple ledge/corner/juggle situations and she can’t. High tier at best.
As sheik main since like 2 years ago, there was definitely a sense of frustration seeing I could play characters like Lucina and KO opponents with like 1/5 of the inputs I’d need for sheik. Love her, but god damn does it get exhausting.
1v1 me and I can throw 3 of your arguments out the window just cause his sheik didn’t kill early doesn’t mean she doesn’t have absurd kill confirms that kill early. Anyway nair bouncing fish with rage kill at 70% on mid weights
Kameme always does this, and it's so frustrating to watch. He gets very close with sora or even wins with him, and he just changes characters for some reason and gets washed. I always thought he tries to mess his opponents head by using different characters then sora but man went straight with SHEIK in this set and it didn't work out. Got close with sora 2nd match and then goes back to sheik and gets 2 stocked. His sora is top-notch and can hang with any top player. So why does he do this? Only God knows
To me the Sora game looked like Sparg0 was a bit lost at the beginning because unfamiliar matchup, then caught up as the game went on. I think he should go Sheik vs Sparg0 because even if he beats Cloud the Aegis will come out, but he clearly isn't confortable on Sheik yet. For example he was so adamant on edge guarding with nair in situations he could've went for needles. I believe practicing Sheik will be better if he wants to beat Sparg0 at some point.
The sora game only was close because Kameme got a 0-death. Sparg0 had over 100% on his second stock when kameme had all 3 stocks. When the match ended Sparg0 was below 50%. Kameme had no chance of beating Sparg0s Cloud if he went Sora again - it just took Sparg0 some time to get used to it
@@Shadrag kameme could’ve beaten spargo but after having a huge lead with sora he was comfortable a little too comfortable causing him to get edge-guarded pretty badly and started looking confused after spargo came back
I think you are right about sticking with one, and probably with the Sora as well. Both Sheik and Sora have a bunch of true combos that can easily delete stocks. But Spargo did adapt way too quickly to the Sora. So its a question whether counter picking would trip Spargo and in hindsight, it didnt work out. Maybe if he sticked with one, he could’ve adapt. Hard to say, but interesting take tho.
I don’t care what Zachray or any top player says. Sheik sucks. Why would you spend months mastering the character to do 18% with 6 moves. The effort is not even close to being worth the reward with the amount of other characters in this game that are good.
I play shiek and she is VERY good. Mid high tier at least. Yeah, if you just fucking spam forward air obviously you're gonna do no damage. Her combos are simply to good to say she "sucks". Also she has literally SO MANY kill confirms. Just because she doesn't have a killing airel doesn't mean she struggles to kill. Her edgeguards are so strong she doesn't NEED a killing airel
@@BladeVoltz Charliedaking has opinions that are just plain stupid. Like thinking Cloud is better then Pyra/Mythra and Bayonetta is bottom 5. Also those comments were before Sheik got buffed IIRC
Sheik is a solid high tier. Kameme's Sheik isn't as good as the actual Sheik's that practice the character as a main though because he's playing a very hard character as a secondary. If you want to watch a top notch Sheik main, Eim, Mr. R or WebbJP show what the character can do more then Kameme.
@@SeriousStriker every top sheik you just named is extremely far from being a top player. So yet again, the extreme effort you have to put in with sheik to even hang at a top level, is far from worth it.
Cloud is so hype, I love when he run away and starts to charge limit and then proceeds to up/side b any attempts of approach and then proceeds to ledgetrap by spamming back airs
@@pedrova70you could literally simplify any characters gameplan like this. Plus, Dk has like the simplest gameplan and people love watching him so it’s not even like it’s a bad thing.
Cloud probably has the only mechanic that’s constantly feeling like a threat. It’s always charging, he can hold and use it so many times that you’re practically playing like you’re up against Wario… With one less stock :O
@@f0ld920lol this is why I think cloud is a top tier or atleast breaking top. No matter the matchup it’s either winning or he’s bair camping or being aggressive with the best bair in the game which is hard to deal with no matter the character
@@Smoothcarriescloud mad overrated. The only reason you see people not partying cloud back air is because spargo is crazy. I parry cloud back air all the time because most clouds are predictable. Spargo is just the goat
Man.. sheik is so overrated. For his most important matchups Kameme just randomly goes a secondary and usually gets wrecked. His Sora beats almost any character and he’s been defying mu charts for so long. Like Sheik is good but Sora is better. You have to be so precise with Sheik and it doesnt make sense as a secondary when Sora and Mega Man are already high execution characters and you have Sheik which is even high execution than both. His Sora def can beat Sparg0 but ig we’ll never know if they’ll run into bracket again
sheik players doing the most insane combo in the history to deal 20%
Man, I just always wanna see Sheik win, and I so rarely do. It's like Void said, the only reason to play her is to look cool
It’s literally because he stalled that move 😭 if he used any other variations mid combo it would’ve done 40 + bouncing fish as a combo ended which would be 50-60
2:50 what about this combo? It did 45?
@@echospace7347 I think OP was exaggerating a bit, but the spirit of the comment is that Sheik seems to need to be so creative with her combo routes and put in so much effort to get close to the damage other high/top tiers can regularly achieve just with pretty formulaic strings (which is why Sheik is sick, but...)
😂😂😂😂
Sparg0 has the fastest IN GAME adaptations of any top player. I thought game two w Sora was going to be a 2 stock victory for Kameme, but he crawls back so effortlessly. I'd bet on him against just about anyone
Sparg0 has beaten the lights of MKLeo, many times over, I wouldn't say its a stretch to call Sparg0 the new champion, the best at the game.
You forgot about acolca, the best player in the world @@hi.im.iris69420
Acola*
When are people going to realize Sheik is not a top tier? I know players like Tweek swear she’s top 5 but results and even theory craft don’t show it. It takes so many hits and so much work to equal the damage output from 2-3 piece bnb combos from actual top tiers. And most of them can net kills from simple ledge/corner/juggle situations and she can’t. High tier at best.
Most people don’t consider sheik top tier
shiek is an easy character to preform true combos with on over 50% of the cast
As sheik main since like 2 years ago, there was definitely a sense of frustration seeing I could play characters like Lucina and KO opponents with like 1/5 of the inputs I’d need for sheik. Love her, but god damn does it get exhausting.
I think your not accounting for that fact his moves was stale . If he did different variations it would’ve done 30 more percent lmao
1v1 me and I can throw 3 of your arguments out the window just cause his sheik didn’t kill early doesn’t mean she doesn’t have absurd kill confirms that kill early. Anyway nair bouncing fish with rage kill at 70% on mid weights
I've always wanted to see this between these two.
My spargo impression: hi guys im spargo
Amazing
This battle is a canon event
2:42 only void can kill spargo with sheik
SERK is such an amazing commentator honestly, he can really hype up moments
I appreciate the love
Kameme always does this, and it's so frustrating to watch. He gets very close with sora or even wins with him, and he just changes characters for some reason and gets washed. I always thought he tries to mess his opponents head by using different characters then sora but man went straight with SHEIK in this set and it didn't work out. Got close with sora 2nd match and then goes back to sheik and gets 2 stocked. His sora is top-notch and can hang with any top player. So why does he do this? Only God knows
To me the Sora game looked like Sparg0 was a bit lost at the beginning because unfamiliar matchup, then caught up as the game went on. I think he should go Sheik vs Sparg0 because even if he beats Cloud the Aegis will come out, but he clearly isn't confortable on Sheik yet. For example he was so adamant on edge guarding with nair in situations he could've went for needles. I believe practicing Sheik will be better if he wants to beat Sparg0 at some point.
The sora game only was close because Kameme got a 0-death. Sparg0 had over 100% on his second stock when kameme had all 3 stocks. When the match ended Sparg0 was below 50%. Kameme had no chance of beating Sparg0s Cloud if he went Sora again - it just took Sparg0 some time to get used to it
@@Shadrag kameme could’ve beaten spargo but after having a huge lead with sora he was comfortable a little too comfortable causing him to get edge-guarded pretty badly and started looking confused after spargo came back
Believing in our characters may be hard sometimes especially if you lose the game
I think you are right about sticking with one, and probably with the Sora as well. Both Sheik and Sora have a bunch of true combos that can easily delete stocks. But Spargo did adapt way too quickly to the Sora. So its a question whether counter picking would trip Spargo and in hindsight, it didnt work out. Maybe if he sticked with one, he could’ve adapt. Hard to say, but interesting take tho.
Gosh I know a throw when I see one. Well played spargo.
Damn that guy is good with cloud kameme is so op with sora
Y’all not looking at the big picture, kameme threw the game so acola would not be close to #1 in ranking
確かにシークは崖外運んで復帰阻止で有利とれるけどスパーゴの拒否が上手すぎた
kameme tryna provoke spargos ptsd for sheik
Tình yêu từ Việt Nam sparg0!
I don’t care what Zachray or any top player says. Sheik sucks. Why would you spend months mastering the character to do 18% with 6 moves. The effort is not even close to being worth the reward with the amount of other characters in this game that are good.
I play shiek and she is VERY good. Mid high tier at least. Yeah, if you just fucking spam forward air obviously you're gonna do no damage. Her combos are simply to good to say she "sucks". Also she has literally SO MANY kill confirms. Just because she doesn't have a killing airel doesn't mean she struggles to kill. Her edgeguards are so strong she doesn't NEED a killing airel
@@jaydenhohman2590 "Sheik is good, like really really good.... good at giving your opponent rage so they can kill you faster" - CharlieDaKing 2020
@@BladeVoltz Charliedaking has opinions that are just plain stupid. Like thinking Cloud is better then Pyra/Mythra and Bayonetta is bottom 5. Also those comments were before Sheik got buffed IIRC
Sheik is a solid high tier. Kameme's Sheik isn't as good as the actual Sheik's that practice the character as a main though because he's playing a very hard character as a secondary. If you want to watch a top notch Sheik main, Eim, Mr. R or WebbJP show what the character can do more then Kameme.
@@SeriousStriker every top sheik you just named is extremely far from being a top player. So yet again, the extreme effort you have to put in with sheik to even hang at a top level, is far from worth it.
Spargo is god like, well done to kameme getting here, but still
Cloud is so hype, I love when he run away and starts to charge limit and then proceeds to up/side b any attempts of approach and then proceeds to ledgetrap by spamming back airs
Pretty easy right?
You should play cloud to become a champion as well
@@aldox1363 never said it was easy (it is one of the easiest characters in the game tho), just that it is lame.
@@pedrova70you could literally simplify any characters gameplan like this. Plus, Dk has like the simplest gameplan and people love watching him so it’s not even like it’s a bad thing.
Sheik conecta 100 golpes y hace 60 %
Cloud conecta 5 y es KO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
sparGOD!
Cloud probably has the only mechanic that’s constantly feeling like a threat.
It’s always charging, he can hold and use it so many times that you’re practically playing like you’re up against Wario…
With one less stock :O
Umm little mac?
umm joker?
Smash fans will literally find anything to complain about y'all are so lame
@@TheOneAndOnlyJell_O welcome to every single fandom ever XD.
Is megaman bad against cloud?
Is pretty even
I don’t play either character but doesn’t cloud bair just win that matchup
@@felix-ql1xgdoesn't Cloud bair just win at Smash lol
@@f0ld920lol this is why I think cloud is a top tier or atleast breaking top. No matter the matchup it’s either winning or he’s bair camping or being aggressive with the best bair in the game which is hard to deal with no matter the character
@@Smoothcarriescloud mad overrated. The only reason you see people not partying cloud back air is because spargo is crazy. I parry cloud back air all the time because most clouds are predictable. Spargo is just the goat
kameme sold so hard 🤦🏾♂️
Sparg0 play style too good for him
How?
@@waleedmughal4439 yeah spamming specials is quite skillful
@@KyngMKliterally no one in the world can beat it
true smdh
Queda claro que Kameme solo esta ahí por usar a un personaje tan roto en el juego (Sora) y aun así Spargo se lo comió vivo que sad
Man.. sheik is so overrated. For his most important matchups Kameme just randomly goes a secondary and usually gets wrecked. His Sora beats almost any character and he’s been defying mu charts for so long. Like Sheik is good but Sora is better. You have to be so precise with Sheik and it doesnt make sense as a secondary when Sora and Mega Man are already high execution characters and you have Sheik which is even high execution than both. His Sora def can beat Sparg0 but ig we’ll never know if they’ll run into bracket again
overrated? lmao almost everyone agrees she sucks
why pro players never use parry?
You telling or asking?
@@deonjoyner960 asking bro there is the "?" simbol
@angeleduardo9244 could have been a mistake, as it was written as a statement.
The commentators were really acting like Sheik is a worse MU for Cloud then Sora LMAOOOOOO
なんで最後シーク出した？謎すぎる。火力の差が。。。
かめめキがャラ相性を重く見てるからじゃね
この前もドラ右ミェンミェンに対して似たようなことをやってたし
その時のほうがソラのほうがやれてたように見えたけどそういう問題じゃないんだろうね
いい加減日本はシークが強くないことを認めた方がいい
わかる
まぁ理論値は高いと思うけどね。でもそれはエペで極めればキーマウのが強いって言ってるのと似てる気がする。
突然どうした
@@user-fu8fj4mv8q理解力不足を人のせいにするな
@@まじ目痛いわかりやすい！笑
強すぎワロタ
シーク勝つには、立ち回り強くないとね。。。。
Sheik needs help!
That guys spanglish is very annoying tbh
Kameme needs to retire this sheik