Omg yes….”simple” is for me. I hope the dash never changes. And honestly I like a bike to look “jerry rigged”/ creatively put together/ not everything has a special place.
@@johnmac.6760 I wouldn’t know I’ve only been on bikes since I was 2 years old and my dad and uncles have been in a mc club my whole life. Loud pipes save life’s pal....
@@texasdirtbikerider3335 Mate, I've, been riding bikes my whole life to, and I don't care, what bike you ride 50cc to a 1400 Harley, it don't matter, and It don't matter if your dressed in hi viz, or have loud pipes, and I've had loud pipes and nobbers still don't Seeya and pull out on ya, still, just gotta ride like everyone's out to kill you... 🤘🤘
"Its not too loud, which I think is quite nice, because I am an adult, and I don't need everybody to look at me all the time!" 😂🤣 I only wished I'd came up with that one! Great review.
Good review, I agree, but as the guy speaks only speaks about the sound it makes, and nothing about performance, it would seem he is concerned about what people are thinking. Can't see the value in what seems to be a vanity 850 pound spend and then talking about it being an economic choice. Does it improve anything but sound? Serious question.
A full exhaust, tuning, and snorkel delete takes 14 pounds off the bine and adds over ten horsepower. That seems well worth it. If I want quiet, I’ll go with a coal powered electric bike and save the sanctimonious virtue signaling! 🥸
I’ve had this bike for nearly a year. Fitted outback crash bars, outback skid plate, heated Yamaha grips fitted the correct way unlike the ones in this video the cable has to point downwards according to instructions & tuned to the correct cc for the bike for maximum heat , double take mirrors, sw motek snap on tank bag & a 30l rear bag along with bags to mount on the crash bars. Yamaha rear rack , Yamaha centre stand, headlight protector, powerbronze flip screen. The standard tyres are great in any condition. I came from a motocross background and this T7 is my first road bike. It’s fantastic. The breaks are good it handles well it carries luggage I’ve had the wife on the back of it & she was comfortable. I’ve done long road rides in 45mph winds with heavy heavy rain & used it all over the west of Scotland where I stay, on beaches & up forestry roads ect. I love it. It feels like it will start every time I put the key in with out failure. The fuel range is ok for me. Great bike and I would recommend to everyone JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW IVE TAKEN THE POWER BRONZE SCREEN OFF & FITTED A GIVI TALL SCREEN WITH THE WINGS. Now tested the givi it’s totally crap the screen sits in my line of sight I’m 6ft. You can only do 80mph with it on according to the stickers from givi that are in the screen it wobbles the front end in high wind. I’ve sold it and gone back to the powerbronze flip with the givi winglets works the best for me
Couple of questions if I may? How are the double take mirrors? Do you get a good view with them? Can you have fun with it off-road or does the weight spoil things? I’m not thinking hard enduro, but a bit more challenging than a fire road.
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock hi murdock sorry I didn’t get back to you earlier I’ve only just had the bike back out for a ride. The double take mirrors are great really well made & half an inch wider then stock giving a better view. They fold up within seconds allowing off road riding a bit easier. If you drop the bike I think they would fold up instead of smashing the mirrors like I found out with the oem stock mirrors. As for the weight of the bike I find it fine I can pick it up quite easy. I’ve used the bike in deep sand on my local beaches & off road in forestry areas it’s well balanced at slow speeds and even better at high speeds. I’m 6ft tall & I don’t find it hard to use off road at all. It’s fantastic on road motorway speeds is easy for the 700cc twin smooth as butter. I can’t recommend it enough. I came from a motocross background riding a 125 Kawasaki kx & after that I had a Suzuki rmz450 as well as other bikes when I was young. The tenere is my first road bike so I didn’t have much road experience before the T7 but my off road background is fine. Hope this helps you make your mind up
@@1jonblaze That’s great info mate, thanks for taking the time. As much as I love my 450 off-road, it’s excruciating on road and I want something that does both.
I own a 2021 Tenere and I’ve been quite impressed with the stock tires. The majority of my time is spent on road and my only complaint is noise and Hell, that has to be expected from dual purpose tires. I’m staying with the stock tires when it comes time to replace them. One of the reasons chose the T7 aside from the initial low cost was the LACK of electronic “rider aids”.
Exactly like this soyboy putting a whopping 5000miles a year lmaoooo I bet he just rode it to his local coffee spot 10min away and went over a blade of grass for offroading.
@@michaelhayward7572 nothing is really in its class yet. Then again knowone is going to trust an aprilia 660. And I'm sure the transalp will go in a different direction and be much more road based. 19/17 wire wheels 18 litre tank. 750cc 80hp 190mm suspension. Probably 215kg. That's my guess. The tiger rally 660 could be better than the T7 the trident & sport tiger look better than the mt-07 and tracer 700.,
That dash - bar having a pr of round analogue clocks, there is nothing close on any adv bike to being that nice. Hate TFT screens and all that unneccessary modern electronics with a vengeance. By the sales figures, a lot of punters agree with me...
@@michaelhayward7572 I'm just staying with my old f800gs and it analogue gauges. If you want old school gauges it's probably going to limit it to retro bikes only for brand new.
Very thorough review, great work! The T7 will be on a lot of folks shopping lists for sure. (Oxford heated grips are my "go-to", great heat, quality & durability). All the best, safe riding & greetings from snowy Canada.
not sure I want to pay later for things that should be there. Rims to suit tubeless tyres, adequate tank capacity and CruiseC are now a must for many people. Should be cheaper with its basic spec
I get 150 miles before fuel light flashes. 225 to empty. Guess depends on riding style. Enduristan Blizzards Large fit perfect and no need for scaffolding or rack. Easily enough power two up. A mate has got one, he ran it to empty to test and got 236 miles. He had the label peel on the heated grips and got them changed under warranty. Hope that helps someone! 👍
The trip didn't happen because the one in stock got sold. But, what the hell, I knew it was a good bike so I bought one anyway over the phone! I paid for it to be delivered, and it arrived bright an early at 07:30 in the morning on Thursday, 20/05/2021. A lovely Ceramic Blue one; it looked fantastic in the flesh rolling out of the back of the van. My first job after everything was sorted and paid for, was to give it a coat of ACF-50. Then I lubed the chain, I adjusted the handlebars, and checked the wheels, brakes and tyre pressures. The bike was now ready for the road; so the next day I checked the tyre pressures again to make sure they were still sound, and went out for the first time - in a storm! It was very wet and very windy, so I took it easy, had a great time, and tested my rain gear to the max. I absolutely loved riding the bike, I mean that CP2 engine. Plenty of low-down grunt, and what a sound, even with the stock exhaust on. It's a cracking machine, I'm so happy I bought one, it's definitely a keeper!
Nicely done review. I've done a bit over 1k miles with the first 400mi on stock STR's and the rest on the Bridgestone AX41 Adventurecross. Loved the STR's on pavement including wet and great on dry/damp dirt roads but slimy dirt was a no go. The AX41's solved that and they've been great on pavement wet and dry. Not sure longevity will be one of their strengths but I'll take confidence inspiring performance every time.
A very nice dual-sport bike with an accessible price (MSRP 9.999), BUT in CALIFORNIA, some dealers add additional charges as transit and dealer markups and the price reaches 11.500USD. They inflate MSRP by 15%, it's unbelievable.
So, out of curiosity....finally a guy that had ridden an XT660 before T700. The XT660 is actually my 2nd favorite bike I have ever had. 1st is a S1000rr which I own for several past years. Yea I know, two different bikes. BUT, I am just waiting for Yamaha to release an upgraded version of 660 that is lighter (by at least 20kg), has the two brake discs as mentioned, single thumper with two exhausts (loved the visuals and sound of it), about 10-20bhp more, fully adjustable suspension systems, and retains handles on the tail to move it about. The T700 does so far look the closest to it, and I'd like to ask Ben if it has at least that sort of feel whilst riding the T700, or it doesn't. Thank you
First view I've heard that said pillion enjoyed it. My good lady is happy on the back of my xt660z for long trips but took one look at the 700 seat and politely declined.. Which was a shame as I test rode the 700 and loved it. New version with 20 litre tank? I think so yes please. Happy travels
Great Review! This is a bike that I would love to own, but at 5'8" I think it's too tall for me to be safe. It's a shame that they designed a bike that only good for people over 6'
Yamaha sells a lowering kit which is nothing but a set of “DogBones” that take 15 minutes to swap out and drop the height 1.5 inches. Here in the States the kit sells for $145.
I am 5'8", and have no problems, though I wouldn't want it any taller. I do have a 32" in seam though - no ass fat. I probably would go ahead and buy the World raid (15mm higher seat) though if it was offered in the US.
Pannier racks options on the tenere are so wide, makes them look like a bus in the rear. They need to lower the exhaust, and tuck in the racks so they dont stick out so far
Great review. Thank you. So far, this is my favorite bike to buy for the first time for the street. I come from old-school dirt bike background... Quick question - I know a lot of riders say that the exhaust is in a bad location for a fall on the right side which can damage the sub-frame because of the leverage. Do you think that the panniers would protect it enough in the event of a crash in the dirt? Thanks!
The old school screen is actually a selling point for me. I know the last and will take abuse. These new colour ones, I just don't know if they'll be working in 10 years. (because they haven't been around for 10 years yet)
The LCD dash has been around from at least 1996. And often suffered dry joints on the circuit boards over time. I've ended up just sticking something aftermarket on like a trailer vapor.
I collected my Rally Edition last October, managed to just get the run in and service done before lockdown v3. Agree with pretty much all points here, although I'm getting far better mpg than you appear to be, its capable of 200 miles to a tank I reckon, without riding like a nun. I've yet to do a really long day in the saddle but the seat seems bearable too (taller rally seat ofc). Counting the days till April now, so I can go out guilt free for a proper run or ten..
Thanks for watching Barry. Would you be willing to have a chat about your bike for an upcoming issue of the paper? You can get in touch with me here: ben.clarke@motorcyclenews.com
Great review, thanks. I put the same grips on my R6 and so far haven't needed the high setting. I'm very happy with them, and I definitely used a bit extra glue on the throttle side.
T7 just conquered a podium, both 1st and 2nd place, followed by 3 months old stock Africa twin 750 in last week's Rimba Raid 2022 Mat Daling offroad rally.
Loving your video work Ben - you're good at this - and particularly nice to hear another Viker (I just made that term up, quite happy with it as it happens) use "Goldilocks" in a review.....I thought that was just me....
If you needed one bike to do anything at all. This would be a excellent choice. Other bikes are cheaper, or more powerful, but Yamaha quality is going to get you to where you need to go, as long as its possible to do so.
The bike is right at $10k OTD. You should have gone with Koso heated grips. Much better. Front forks always need a cheap upgrade. Progressive springs and 20w fork oil. I usually get a set of Chinese preload adjusters as well. I don't know why that isn't factory... On all budget bikes. I don't consider $10k budget. Those three things I mention cost a whopping $150. Luggage - I would go with the Hepco Becker C- Bow system. A lot less money. Sturdy. And a variety of bag choices. Or like most adventure riders, opt for soft luggage. Sorry, but for half the money you can get a Hymalayan OTD for about $5,500. It doesn't have a jerky throttle. It's down on HP, but it's got tractor torque for off-road, and that's all you need. It also has screw and locknut valve adjustment. It has a low 31.5" seat. That makes it immediately accessable to more riders. There's also a lowering kit, but isn't there a kit for just about any bike on the planet these days? I test rode the Tenere 700 about two weeks ago. The motor behaves just like any other in the MT lineup. Jerky. On/off. With the amount of front travel an adventure bike has, that makes for a bouncy ride. Again, my money would be spent on the Hymalayan, but I'm glad you liked the bike.
My major complaints are the el-cheapo fuel cap that makes fitting a tank bag difficult and lack of tubeless tyres. Hardly anyone ever mentions that the info on the dash is quite detailed with fuel consumption and range as well as temperatures etc. I didn’t realise until I bought one. I seem to get great fuel consumption from mine but I ride everywhere in 5th and 6th.
So if you buy the "cheap" (10k us dollars) bike, and improve the suspension, put better tires, engine protection, better windshield, rear luggage mounts, better brake pads, add stand, heated grips,,the cheap bike is now 14k!
@@JohnSmith-ef8nr that's fine! Motorcycles are not a necessity but a hobby, so your preference is what decides what you want, jist stop calling it "cheap", because is not! Lol
@@12masterr Most riders won't need to do lots of mods to this bike, and there's not really many bikes that compare with it. You could get a KTM790 for the same price as a used T7 but you'd have to be mad to buy a ktm with no warranty.
Regarding price. I saw it here in the street at the Yamaha dealer. I was a bit shocked at the high price. I had zero knowledge about this type of motorbike, but since I now live in Spain near amazing mountains, I went in to see this motorbike. I will buy it when I can find it for 5000 euro second hand.
Why are people so fast to change front suspension but so slow to just space the springs and use thicker fork oil to achieve what they need in suspension? The bike is made to play with the front suspension and dial it in to what you want.
small fuel tank. exhaust where it it sucks. that rack has to be outside of the exhaust and that too is dangerous. loop over seat bags would possibly be better. improvements are needed before i would bother touring my Country or the World on this bike.
What I don't get with these long term tests is why change from standard for the suspension for instance? Why not review the bike based on how it came from the factory?
Obviously we start out with what came from the factory. A lot of Ténéré owners do upgrade their suspension though and so we think it's worth exploring what difference it makes. Like I said in the video, the stock suspension isn't bad it's just underdamped. It's also a little soft in its standard set up for a rider of my weight. Hope that makes sense and thanks for watching!
Actually, I actually enjoyed this actual video. It actually helped me decide if I actually should actually purchase an actual Ténéré. Actually, there was actually one thing that actually bothered me about this video, but actually I can't quite actually figure out what it actually was ... actually.
Good review on a great bike. Incredible value as well. The only thing is, I can’t imagine putting a mucked up bike in storage without a wash. I couldn’t do that. Kind of like going to bed without a shower. Best!
I can't believe any bike in the world would survive being put away under cover for 2 months with winter salt not washed off. I've had loads of bikes even with the salt washed off after every ride it still takes a hit. And from what I've heard most mt-07 owners say the finish and the fastners are getting ruined from all year round riding. Even the new Africa twins were getting rusting spokes on the wheels
Heated grips shouldn't cost more than £40. You got ripped right off there. Also, your fuel range is a good 50 miles below what others owners are reporting. on the Tenere700 forum there seems to be a consensus of 50+mpg and a good 200 miles range.
I love the dash, so much better than all those colour screen full of useless things, it's a motorbike not a video game ... that's one of the main reason why I prefer t700 to the competition, just wish it was 30kg lighter... hope yamaha is reading this...
I to have experienced the harsh first gear engagement, and clutch chatter when cold. And did I hear correctly only 100 miles before the low fuel warning? I’m getting close to 200.
Lovely to see long-term tests. I think it looks like a brilliant bike and if I lived somewhere close to a lot of derelict roads or where offroading was legal I'd consider one. The only drawback I can see is the price.
GS,Multi,Africa Twin, etc in European touring I want all the comfort I can get..coz the road network is there..africa and Asia I will be getting this bike..no question
Just wondering why you changed the pipe, was it for an improved sound (and that is important) or other reasons as the upgrade is an expensive addition.
I wonder, Would the luggage rack without the bags on it act as a crash bar? Or do you think if the bike went down and fell on those that they would break at their mounting points?
I ride a ‘09 KTM 990 Adventure. The bike is getting a bit tired and age starts to show. Every time i ride it it delivers a massive smile on my face. It’s a bit expensive to run, service is not cheap and only 7500 km apart but man it’s fun to ride. I’m looking for a replacement and this T 700 starts to show up. It looks like a reliable and affordable daily driver bike. I’m only afraid that it lacks the fun factor that my KTM has. New KTM 790 and 890 are to expensive and lack reliability. Anybody here who have ridden both the 990 Adventure and the T700 and was in the same doubt as I am with replacing the KTM? I really would like to know how fun it is to ride long term if you’re used to a 950/990?
Hi... so why do you give it back then ? I have ridden my 5000 km on the Tenere and and you're totally right. I had a little struggle with the unsynchronized gearbox to shift down while standing.
Interesting. The D606 front D908RR rear combo was what Dunlop themselves suggested. Worked great on the dirt but really hard work on tarmac. Thanks for watching!
Did I miss the Sticky Note comment about the crash bars? Did you use them?(!) Are they the Yamaha OEM items? Would you recommend them? On the strength of your earlier review of the T7 I ordered one blind. Very keen to keep weight off so don't just want to pile on the extras. I will drop it at some stage so...
Have to agree with the bigger bikes being well made. A lot of the 125's I've had look like they've been recovered from the mary rose after a couple of winters.
Am looking at this bike, enjoyed the presenters style, mature and calm. Could have chatted about the engine more, any vibration, clutch action, grip size, gearing and maintenance schedule amongst other topics. Thanks.
I find it annoying that you don't add the pricing of the K Tech stuff and the Kriega bags. Or were they freebies? I'm still buying one though. Hopefully getting it this week now I can get a test ride
Why have you got symmetrical outback Mototrek pannier frames, yet use asymmetrical kriega bags? There are asymmetrical (narrower) panniers frames from OM that are more suited to the kriega you have.
The panniers were originally destined for another staff member's long-term test bike but didn't get used. I hadn't seen them before I ordered the rack and didn't realise they weren't a matched pair.
How does this bike handle in the corners? On pavement. Obviously tires make a difference. I ride a vstrom 650 and I'm not happy with it off-road. I'm perfectly happy with it on-road though. I want to have fun on both. Was hoping this would be the bike. Anyone care to comment?
Depends on your tires, and how fast you're going. But fine. It's a tall, top-heavy bike so you can't really throw around. You need good balance if you're doing any low-speed manoeuvring though, because it *will* drag itself to the ground otherwise.
Enjoyed the, "I'm an adult, and don't need people to look at me." You described the American-condition perfectly. Loud trucks, loud cars and yes, loud bikes...
I think crept up slightly is is bit of an understatement. An £800 / 10% increase in a year is extortionate and the reason why new bike prices are way out of reach for most people to actually buy outright. I think British journos should take a leaf out of American journalists book and be much more critical of prices and price hikes rather than just pandering to the manufacturers and aftermarket suppliers who are simply taking the mickey and getting away with it too.
70's Casio calculator is about where I'm at. Anybody else tired of tech and ready to get back to basic motorcycling?
Great review, by the way.
True. How much info do we need? Spedo, rpm, fuel gouge, water temp, neutral, oil pressure...odo....thats it!
Omg yes….”simple” is for me. I hope the dash never changes. And honestly I like a bike to look “jerry rigged”/ creatively put together/ not everything has a special place.
If i wanted a computer on my motorcycle, i will play a video game. I am not a fan of video games, i like the T7
I feel you...
Same, I ride a HQV 701. Only speedometer and odometer and a clock basically
I love "it's not too loud - quite nice. I'm an adult, I don't need everyone to look at me all the time" Priceless!
He must not live anywhere busy around here loud pipes means , look I’m here please don’t run me over.
@@texasdirtbikerider3335 loud pipes mean nothing pal..
@@johnmac.6760 I wouldn’t know I’ve only been on bikes since I was 2 years old and my dad and uncles have been in a mc club my whole life. Loud pipes save life’s pal....
@@texasdirtbikerider3335 Mate, I've, been riding bikes my whole life to, and I don't care, what bike you ride 50cc to a 1400 Harley, it don't matter, and It don't matter if your dressed in hi viz, or have loud pipes, and I've had loud pipes and nobbers still don't Seeya and pull out on ya, still, just gotta ride like everyone's out to kill you... 🤘🤘
@@johnmac.6760 I 100% agree but the loud ass pipes do help them notice you is all I was saying. Stay safe on the road man!
"Its not too loud, which I think is quite nice, because I am an adult, and I don't need everybody to look at me all the time!" 😂🤣 I only wished I'd came up with that one! Great review.
Good review, I agree, but as the guy speaks only speaks about the sound it makes, and nothing about performance, it would seem he is concerned about what people are thinking. Can't see the value in what seems to be a vanity 850 pound spend and then talking about it being an economic choice. Does it improve anything but sound? Serious question.
A full exhaust, tuning, and snorkel delete takes 14 pounds off the bine and adds over ten horsepower. That seems well worth it. If I want quiet, I’ll go with a coal powered electric bike and save the sanctimonious virtue signaling! 🥸
I’ve had this bike for nearly a year. Fitted outback crash bars, outback skid plate, heated Yamaha grips fitted the correct way unlike the ones in this video the cable has to point downwards according to instructions & tuned to the correct cc for the bike for maximum heat , double take mirrors, sw motek snap on tank bag & a 30l rear bag along with bags to mount on the crash bars. Yamaha rear rack , Yamaha centre stand, headlight protector, powerbronze flip screen. The standard tyres are great in any condition. I came from a motocross background and this T7 is my first road bike. It’s fantastic. The breaks are good it handles well it carries luggage I’ve had the wife on the back of it & she was comfortable. I’ve done long road rides in 45mph winds with heavy heavy rain & used it all over the west of Scotland where I stay, on beaches & up forestry roads ect. I love it. It feels like it will start every time I put the key in with out failure. The fuel range is ok for me. Great bike and I would recommend to everyone JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW IVE TAKEN THE POWER BRONZE SCREEN OFF & FITTED A GIVI TALL SCREEN WITH THE WINGS. Now tested the givi it’s totally crap the screen sits in my line of sight I’m 6ft. You can only do 80mph with it on according to the stickers from givi that are in the screen it wobbles the front end in high wind. I’ve sold it and gone back to the powerbronze flip with the givi winglets works the best for me
Couple of questions if I may?
How are the double take mirrors? Do you get a good view with them?
Can you have fun with it off-road or does the weight spoil things? I’m not thinking hard enduro, but a bit more challenging than a fire road.
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock hi murdock sorry I didn’t get back to you earlier I’ve only just had the bike back out for a ride. The double take mirrors are great really well made & half an inch wider then stock giving a better view. They fold up within seconds allowing off road riding a bit easier. If you drop the bike I think they would fold up instead of smashing the mirrors like I found out with the oem stock mirrors. As for the weight of the bike I find it fine I can pick it up quite easy. I’ve used the bike in deep sand on my local beaches & off road in forestry areas it’s well balanced at slow speeds and even better at high speeds. I’m 6ft tall & I don’t find it hard to use off road at all. It’s fantastic on road motorway speeds is easy for the 700cc twin smooth as butter. I can’t recommend it enough. I came from a motocross background riding a 125 Kawasaki kx & after that I had a Suzuki rmz450 as well as other bikes when I was young. The tenere is my first road bike so I didn’t have much road experience before the T7 but my off road background is fine. Hope this helps you make your mind up
@@1jonblaze That’s great info mate, thanks for taking the time. As much as I love my 450 off-road, it’s excruciating on road and I want something that does both.
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock I think the tenere will do it for you then
@jon ward It looks like you sell these...
Great review.I am a proud owner of a T7 and I have really ridden this bike hard with no problems.Price wise,performance etc. "Best Bang for the Buck".
Please have him do future dual sport/ADV reviews.
Probably the best I've seen on the Tenere.
Good review, the guy is very smooth and has natural rhythm. MCN upping their game.
Got my T7 here in the U.S. in No ember and am absolutely loving it.
My t7 should be showing up to my local dealer any day now. So excited!!
Lucky my wait is 6-8 months but At least I have it reserved so I will get it eventually
I own a 2021 Tenere and I’ve been quite impressed with the stock tires. The majority of my time is spent on road and my only complaint is noise and Hell, that has to be expected from dual purpose tires. I’m staying with the stock tires when it comes time to replace them. One of the reasons chose the T7 aside from the initial low cost was the LACK of electronic “rider aids”.
The Rally STRs are absolute dogshit offroad, if you live anywhere that has a natural weather phenomenon where water falls from the sky.
T7. Is the way to go!! Out of the box and ready to explore the world!! Thank you Yamaha!!
With a 150 mile range? More like ready to explore the way to the local shops.
@@Britishshooter You can explore the world on a Grom. Range doesnt matter so much.
Exactly like this soyboy putting a whopping 5000miles a year lmaoooo I bet he just rode it to his local coffee spot 10min away and went over a blade of grass for offroading.
Great review!
We love our T7s!
Probably one of the best all-rounder bikes ever made!
I think it is head and shoulders better than anything in its class, and comfortably the best dual sport/adv bike you can buy. Period.
amen brother.... amen! :)
@@michaelhayward7572 nothing is really in its class yet. Then again knowone is going to trust an aprilia 660. And I'm sure the transalp will go in a different direction and be much more road based. 19/17 wire wheels 18 litre tank. 750cc 80hp 190mm suspension. Probably 215kg. That's my guess. The tiger rally 660 could be better than the T7 the trident & sport tiger look better than the mt-07 and tracer 700.,
As someone who has had to keep track of a million things recently, I actually appreciate the sticky notes. 👍
picking up my 2021 this week, im stoked.
I’m super Jealous you are gonna love that thing
That dash - bar having a pr of round analogue clocks, there is nothing close on any adv bike to being that nice.
Hate TFT screens and all that unneccessary modern electronics with a vengeance.
By the sales figures, a lot of punters agree with me...
Can you still buy a bike without a tft now ?
@@chrisredfield3240 loads, i believe.
@@michaelhayward7572 probably not any bmw ktm aprilia
@@michaelhayward7572 I'm just staying with my old f800gs and it analogue gauges. If you want old school gauges it's probably going to limit it to retro bikes only for brand new.
@@chrisredfield3240 my most modern road bike i own is an 89 Guzzi Cali lll, with points and condensors....
Very thorough review, great work! The T7 will be on a lot of folks shopping lists for sure. (Oxford heated grips are my "go-to", great heat, quality & durability). All the best, safe riding & greetings from snowy Canada.
not sure I want to pay later for things that should be there. Rims to suit tubeless tyres, adequate tank capacity and CruiseC are now a must for many people. Should be cheaper with its basic spec
I get 150 miles before fuel light flashes. 225 to empty. Guess depends on riding style. Enduristan Blizzards Large fit perfect and no need for scaffolding or rack. Easily enough power two up. A mate has got one, he ran it to empty to test and got 236 miles. He had the label peel on the heated grips and got them changed under warranty. Hope that helps someone! 👍
I must have a heavy right hand! I'm not the lightest guy, that doesn't help either. Thanks for watching!
I'm off tomorrow on a sixty mile round trip to look at the Yamaha Ténéré 700 Rally Edition, and it's looking very likely it will be my next bike.
The trip didn't happen because the one in stock got sold. But, what the hell, I knew it was a good bike so I bought one anyway over the phone! I paid for it to be delivered, and it arrived bright an early at 07:30 in the morning on Thursday, 20/05/2021. A lovely Ceramic Blue one; it looked fantastic in the flesh rolling out of the back of the van. My first job after everything was sorted and paid for, was to give it a coat of ACF-50. Then I lubed the chain, I adjusted the handlebars, and checked the wheels, brakes and tyre pressures. The bike was now ready for the road; so the next day I checked the tyre pressures again to make sure they were still sound, and went out for the first time - in a storm! It was very wet and very windy, so I took it easy, had a great time, and tested my rain gear to the max. I absolutely loved riding the bike, I mean that CP2 engine. Plenty of low-down grunt, and what a sound, even with the stock exhaust on. It's a cracking machine, I'm so happy I bought one, it's definitely a keeper!
Nicely done review. I've done a bit over 1k miles with the first 400mi on stock STR's and the rest on the Bridgestone AX41 Adventurecross. Loved the STR's on pavement including wet and great on dry/damp dirt roads but slimy dirt was a no go. The AX41's solved that and they've been great on pavement wet and dry. Not sure longevity will be one of their strengths but I'll take confidence inspiring performance every time.
A very nice dual-sport bike with an accessible price (MSRP 9.999), BUT in CALIFORNIA, some dealers add additional charges as transit and dealer markups and the price reaches 11.500USD. They inflate MSRP by 15%, it's unbelievable.
I LOVE the post it reviews!!! Watching from Las Vegas!
Yamaha tenere 700 is top adventure motorcycle one can get,beautiful piece of art😎
So, out of curiosity....finally a guy that had ridden an XT660 before T700.
The XT660 is actually my 2nd favorite bike I have ever had. 1st is a S1000rr which I own for several past years. Yea I know, two different bikes.
BUT, I am just waiting for Yamaha to release an upgraded version of 660 that is lighter (by at least 20kg), has the two brake discs as mentioned, single thumper with two exhausts (loved the visuals and sound of it), about 10-20bhp more, fully adjustable suspension systems, and retains handles on the tail to move it about. The T700 does so far look the closest to it, and I'd like to ask Ben if it has at least that sort of feel whilst riding the T700, or it doesn't.
Thank you
First view I've heard that said pillion enjoyed it. My good lady is happy on the back of my xt660z for long trips but took one look at the 700 seat and politely declined..
Which was a shame as I test rode the 700 and loved it.
New version with 20 litre tank? I think so yes please.
Happy travels
It's not the bike for long pillion tours, but for a sunny Sunday ride it's totally fine. Thanks for watching.
isn't that a good thing?
@@stevecrocker6904 Solo ride and another bike for 2 up. Win-win.
Great Review! This is a bike that I would love to own, but at 5'8" I think it's too tall for me to be safe. It's a shame that they designed a bike that only good for people over 6'
Yamaha sells a lowering kit which is nothing but a set of “DogBones” that take 15 minutes to swap out and drop the height 1.5 inches. Here in the States the kit sells for $145.
5' 6" can ride it, with mods...
@@cavscout62 Ah yes, because why fix the issue through the seat when you can make the already pretty low offroad bike. Even lower!
I am 5'8", and have no problems, though I wouldn't want it any taller. I do have a 32" in seam though - no ass fat. I probably would go ahead and buy the World raid (15mm higher seat) though if it was offered in the US.
Pannier racks options on the tenere are so wide, makes them look like a bus in the rear. They need to lower the exhaust, and tuck in the racks so they dont stick out so far
Oil temp, oil pressure, water temp are essential info. Especially when the oil pressure drops to tell you to stop right away.
Glad I got my 2022 klr in . 40 hp is just peachy. 4000 bucks of free adventure ahead.
Still running strong on my 05 gs1200
I don't do any off road or usually like adventure bikes but the Tenere700 looks so badass. I can recomend the engine tho, got an MT07 and it's awesome
When I had my T7 I managed 200 miles to a tank a few times. Mostly motorway stuff so constant throttle etc.
cracking review thank you .. helped me make a decision in getting one
Great review. Thank you. So far, this is my favorite bike to buy for the first time for the street. I come from old-school dirt bike background...
Quick question - I know a lot of riders say that the exhaust is in a bad location for a fall on the right side which can damage the sub-frame because of the leverage. Do you think that the panniers would protect it enough in the event of a crash in the dirt? Thanks!
The old school screen is actually a selling point for me. I know the last and will take abuse. These new colour ones, I just don't know if they'll be working in 10 years. (because they haven't been around for 10 years yet)
The LCD dash has been around from at least 1996. And often suffered dry joints on the circuit boards over time. I've ended up just sticking something aftermarket on like a trailer vapor.
I collected my Rally Edition last October, managed to just get the run in and service done before lockdown v3. Agree with pretty much all points here, although I'm getting far better mpg than you appear to be, its capable of 200 miles to a tank I reckon, without riding like a nun. I've yet to do a really long day in the saddle but the seat seems bearable too (taller rally seat ofc). Counting the days till April now, so I can go out guilt free for a proper run or ten..
Thanks for watching Barry. Would you be willing to have a chat about your bike for an upcoming issue of the paper? You can get in touch with me here: ben.clarke@motorcyclenews.com
@@motorcyclenewsdotcom mail sent Ben 👍
Great review, thanks. I put the same grips on my R6 and so far haven't needed the high setting. I'm very happy with them, and I definitely used a bit extra glue on the throttle side.
T7 just conquered a podium, both 1st and 2nd place, followed by 3 months old stock Africa twin 750 in last week's Rimba Raid 2022 Mat Daling offroad rally.
Loving your video work Ben - you're good at this - and particularly nice to hear another Viker (I just made that term up, quite happy with it as it happens) use "Goldilocks" in a review.....I thought that was just me....
Nice review. I think without Akrapovič(999€) would be as good as it is with the factory exhaust system.
If you needed one bike to do anything at all. This would be a excellent choice. Other bikes are cheaper, or more powerful, but Yamaha quality is going to get you to where you need to go, as long as its possible to do so.
The bike is right at $10k OTD. You should have gone with Koso heated grips. Much better. Front forks always need a cheap upgrade. Progressive springs and 20w fork oil. I usually get a set of Chinese preload adjusters as well. I don't know why that isn't factory... On all budget bikes. I don't consider $10k budget. Those three things I mention cost a whopping $150.
Luggage - I would go with the Hepco Becker C- Bow system. A lot less money. Sturdy. And a variety of bag choices. Or like most adventure riders, opt for soft luggage.
Sorry, but for half the money you can get a Hymalayan OTD for about $5,500. It doesn't have a jerky throttle. It's down on HP, but it's got tractor torque for off-road, and that's all you need. It also has screw and locknut valve adjustment. It has a low 31.5" seat. That makes it immediately accessable to more riders. There's also a lowering kit, but isn't there a kit for just about any bike on the planet these days?
I test rode the Tenere 700 about two weeks ago. The motor behaves just like any other in the MT lineup. Jerky. On/off. With the amount of front travel an adventure bike has, that makes for a bouncy ride.
Again, my money would be spent on the Hymalayan, but I'm glad you liked the bike.
My major complaints are the el-cheapo fuel cap that makes fitting a tank bag difficult and lack of tubeless tyres. Hardly anyone ever mentions that the info on the dash is quite detailed with fuel consumption and range as well as temperatures etc. I didn’t realise until I bought one. I seem to get great fuel consumption from mine but I ride everywhere in 5th and 6th.
So if you buy the "cheap" (10k us dollars) bike, and improve the suspension, put better tires, engine protection, better windshield, rear luggage mounts, better brake pads, add stand, heated grips,,the cheap bike is now 14k!
Don't forget the centre stand.
@@splodge5714 yep!
Yes, but I'd still have it over any other adv bike.
@@JohnSmith-ef8nr that's fine! Motorcycles are not a necessity but a hobby, so your preference is what decides what you want, jist stop calling it "cheap", because is not! Lol
@@12masterr
Most riders won't need to do lots of mods to this bike, and there's not really many bikes that compare with it.
You could get a KTM790 for the same price as a used T7 but you'd have to be mad to buy a ktm with no warranty.
What was done to the front forks and at what cost . Do you have a link
Regarding price. I saw it here in the street at the Yamaha dealer. I was a bit shocked at the high price. I had zero knowledge about this type of motorbike, but since I now live in Spain near amazing mountains, I went in to see this motorbike. I will buy it when I can find it for 5000 euro second hand.
Why are people so fast to change front suspension but so slow to just space the springs and use thicker fork oil to achieve what they need in suspension? The bike is made to play with the front suspension and dial it in to what you want.
Great alround review thanks 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thank you.
small fuel tank. exhaust where it it sucks. that rack has to be outside of the exhaust and that too is dangerous. loop over seat bags would possibly be better. improvements are needed before i would bother touring my Country or the World on this bike.
What I don't get with these long term tests is why change from standard for the suspension for instance? Why not review the bike based on how it came from the factory?
Obviously we start out with what came from the factory. A lot of Ténéré owners do upgrade their suspension though and so we think it's worth exploring what difference it makes. Like I said in the video, the stock suspension isn't bad it's just underdamped. It's also a little soft in its standard set up for a rider of my weight. Hope that makes sense and thanks for watching!
Actually, I actually enjoyed this actual video. It actually helped me decide if I actually should actually purchase an actual Ténéré. Actually, there was actually one thing that actually bothered me about this video, but actually I can't quite actually figure out what it actually was ... actually.
You wag!
Excellent review. Well thought out.
هذا ما احب ان انصح به . في الطريق الوعرة يجب أن يكون إطار العجلة الامامية حجم كبير لان الحجم الكبير يعطي توازن اكثر في القيادة
Good review on a great bike. Incredible value as well. The only thing is, I can’t imagine putting a mucked up bike in storage without a wash. I couldn’t do that. Kind of like going to bed without a shower. Best!
I can't believe any bike in the world would survive being put away under cover for 2 months with winter salt not washed off. I've had loads of bikes even with the salt washed off after every ride it still takes a hit. And from what I've heard most mt-07 owners say the finish and the fastners are getting ruined from all year round riding. Even the new Africa twins were getting rusting spokes on the wheels
Heated grips shouldn't cost more than £40. You got ripped right off there. Also, your fuel range is a good 50 miles below what others owners are reporting. on the Tenere700 forum there seems to be a consensus of 50+mpg and a good 200 miles range.
I love the dash, so much better than all those colour screen full of useless things, it's a motorbike not a video game ... that's one of the main reason why I prefer t700 to the competition, just wish it was 30kg lighter... hope yamaha is reading this...
Is it dirt or corrosion on the wheel spokes, at 03:34 in the video? Thanks for a great review!
I liked the idea with the post-its :D
I to have experienced the harsh first gear engagement, and clutch chatter when cold. And did I hear correctly only 100 miles before the low fuel warning? I’m getting close to 200.
Even at 50mpg 100 miles is only 2 gal (9litres) should still leave 7 litres.
Lovely to see long-term tests. I think it looks like a brilliant bike and if I lived somewhere close to a lot of derelict roads or where offroading was legal I'd consider one. The only drawback I can see is the price.
I don't know why on price he was comparing it to £20k bikes. The tiger 900 bmw f850gs ktm 790adventure s are very similar prices.
Great review !! How does the rear spring cope with long journeys with a passenger ?
GS,Multi,Africa Twin, etc in European touring I want all the comfort I can get..coz the road network is there..africa and Asia I will be getting this bike..no question
Just wondering why you changed the pipe, was it for an improved sound (and that is important) or other reasons as the upgrade is an expensive addition.
I wonder, Would the luggage rack without the bags on it act as a crash bar? Or do you think if the bike went down and fell on those that they would break at their mounting points?
Love the yamaha ten 700
.I went for the super ten though..wanted something bigger for the longer rides.💪
Waiting on mine to arrive, hopefully soon, most Riders are saying about the same small issues,
I ride a ‘09 KTM 990 Adventure. The bike is getting a bit tired and age starts to show. Every time i ride it it delivers a massive smile on my face. It’s a bit expensive to run, service is not cheap and only 7500 km apart but man it’s fun to ride. I’m looking for a replacement and this T 700 starts to show up. It looks like a reliable and affordable daily driver bike. I’m only afraid that it lacks the fun factor that my KTM has. New KTM 790 and 890 are to expensive and lack reliability.
Anybody here who have ridden both the 990 Adventure and the T700 and was in the same doubt as I am with replacing the KTM? I really would like to know how fun it is to ride long term if you’re used to a 950/990?
Hi... so why do you give it back then ?
I have ridden my 5000 km on the Tenere and and you're totally right. I had a little struggle with the unsynchronized gearbox to shift down while standing.
Probably a factory loaner
First time I've heard of someone running the D606 front without running it on the rear. Usually it's the other way around mated to an MT21 front.
Interesting. The D606 front D908RR rear combo was what Dunlop themselves suggested. Worked great on the dirt but really hard work on tarmac. Thanks for watching!
On dual sport and xr650r type bikes the D606 rear is amazing, paired with a different front. I just came off a D605 front and it was very bad.
Did I miss the Sticky Note comment about the crash bars? Did you use them?(!) Are they the Yamaha OEM items? Would you recommend them? On the strength of your earlier review of the T7 I ordered one blind. Very keen to keep weight off so don't just want to pile on the extras. I will drop it at some stage so...
Have to agree with the bigger bikes being well made. A lot of the 125's I've had look like they've been recovered from the mary rose after a couple of winters.
Always get your wheels balanced!
Am looking at this bike, enjoyed the presenters style, mature and calm. Could have chatted about the engine more, any vibration, clutch action, grip size, gearing and maintenance schedule amongst other topics. Thanks.
Excellent review
Nice review, MCN
Thanks!
I find it annoying that you don't add the pricing of the K Tech stuff and the Kriega bags. Or were they freebies? I'm still buying one though. Hopefully getting it this week now I can get a test ride
well its no dr650, but i still want one
Post apocalyptic lol. Yea I hope everything fairs out over the pond for you guys. 🙏 pray things get back to a somewhat normal soon.
Great review 👌
Why have you got symmetrical outback Mototrek pannier frames, yet use asymmetrical kriega bags? There are asymmetrical (narrower) panniers frames from OM that are more suited to the kriega you have.
The panniers were originally destined for another staff member's long-term test bike but didn't get used. I hadn't seen them before I ordered the rack and didn't realise they weren't a matched pair.
You work for MCN and dont know about ABS turning off with the ignition?
Stuff the gear indication on the dash, where's the temp gauge?
This or the latest Tracer 700? Any opinions?
Love the review ... but careful on the mic lads
Is this a good beginner bike?
I like the pair of the panniers bags, where can I purchase it online?
Thanks
So there and option for ful stand?
Couldn’t agree more regarding the dash. Far to many reviews place to much emphasis on it - it just needs to be functional...
Seems to me the gripe about the heated grips was wimpy since you had already crashed it to the left obviously!
I would buy one if it were closer to 300 lbs - will happily give up displacement - essentially a 3/4 sized version.
How does this bike handle in the corners? On pavement. Obviously tires make a difference. I ride a vstrom 650 and I'm not happy with it off-road. I'm perfectly happy with it on-road though. I want to have fun on both. Was hoping this would be the bike. Anyone care to comment?
Depends on your tires, and how fast you're going. But fine. It's a tall, top-heavy bike so you can't really throw around.
You need good balance if you're doing any low-speed manoeuvring though, because it *will* drag itself to the ground otherwise.
Nice review... 👍😎
Enjoyed the, "I'm an adult, and don't need people to look at me." You described the American-condition perfectly. Loud trucks, loud cars and yes, loud bikes...
Rust.. not on first glance. Subframe where buddyseat starched to. Rust under 2 months. Fuel tank hook plate rusts under 3 months.
good review shame about fuel range . same engine as the mt07 and on my mt07 I get 200 to the tank and that's a smaller tank on the mt07
Lol, you put D606s on an ADV bike that rides mostly on-road? Bold choice!
Excellent review. Thanks a lot for that! Looks like like a nice bike for a long trip.
How does this compare to Honda CB500x
Thanks for your personal insight....I’m just waiting for my T7 to get delivered.....now all we need is herd Immunity.
Good choice! Hope you get to enjoy it soon.
I think crept up slightly is is bit of an understatement. An £800 / 10% increase in a year is extortionate and the reason why new bike prices are way out of reach for most people to actually buy outright. I think British journos should take a leaf out of American journalists book and be much more critical of prices and price hikes rather than just pandering to the manufacturers and aftermarket suppliers who are simply taking the mickey and getting away with it too.