Who are the Mormons?
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2018
- Who are the Mormons? A quirky group that certainly stands out among modern Americans for many of their unorthodox practices, beliefs and demographic traits, which distinguishes them from mainstream Christians and pretty much every other religious group.
Be sure to let me know your thoughts on the most confounding, yet lovable religious/cultural groups in the world today. Thanks for watching!
Quick reupload due to audio issues near the beginning. Thanks to everyone for pointing it out.
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Could you do a video on the ulster-scots or English Catholics
@Cicero hi, remember me Cicero I'm the Listener
Masaman you need to work on equalizing your audio. Some parts are extremely loud and others are quiet as a result. Change the decibels in your video editor.
Decibels, or DO YOU MEAN..disciples 😇🤣🤣
I love your videos and have been looking forward to this one. I am lifelong Mormon, went on a two year mission to Korea, studied at BYU in Utah, and married another Mormon in one of our temples. This was extremely fair and mostly accurate. The stuff you got wrong was less to do about culture and more about doctrine. For example, Mormons can drink caffeine (I have all my life), but there is a historical cultural bias against doing so (unlike alcohol which is forbidden theologically). At this point, the cultural norm has largely changed and I would say most Mormons dont care about avoiding caffeine (BYU has recently started serving caffeinated beverages in its cafeteria). Oh, and I would say that we are Christians, but it would be fair to argue that we are unorthodox heretical Christians with a strong distinctive cultural vibe that can come off as cult-like if you grew up outside of the culture.
A knock on the door.
Tony: Hey, Chad. What are you doing here? How is my sister?
Chad: We've separated. Since you're my brother-in-law, I wanted to tell you in person.
Tony: Gosh, I'm sorry to hear that. My sister never told me. You must be really upset.
Chad: Yeah, I really need someone to talk with. She threw me out.
They both sit down on the couch.
Tony: So, gees, if you need a place to stay, you can stay with me for a few days.
Chad: I was hoping that you would say that.
Chad starts rubbing Tony's thigh. Clothes come off before the next shot. Oral sex starts and Chad starts fingering Tony's ass. Soon, anal sex is happening. Tony is grunting like a pig in heat.
After the sex:
Tony: I'm really sorry that you broke up with my sister, but I will always be here for you.
Chad: I was hoping that you would say that.
French kissing ensues. Fade out.
We are most definitely Christian though. It’s in our name. Church of Jesus Christ.
Saturn_Devouring, I’m no longer orthodox Christian but saying “Mormons are Christian because Jesus Christ is in our name” is kind of like saying the “Washington Redskins are native Americans because it’s in their name.” I don’t mean to insult your analytical thinking but that’s really not a logical premise. Mormons may or may not be Christians (depending on how one defines that term) but in either case it would not be contingent on the formal name. Hope it’s ok to say this.
Noah Einstein we believe in the doctrine of Jesus Christ so I feel that makes us Christian. We believe in the father son and Holy Ghost.
Saturn_Devouring, yep, that should do it. But you may not be what Christians call Trinitarian, which means that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one , but also three. Hard to explain, but I think Mormons believe Jesus was the Son of God but that he was not equal to, or one in the same god being. That is, the belief that Jesus is God. If you’re familiar with Unitarians, that’s where their very old religious group gets its name. They don’t believe that Jesus was necessarily divine (Trinitarian) but rather was a holy teacher and guide. Hence Unitarians are not considered Christian, and never wanted to be called Christian in theology and doctrine. Many of our founders were Unitarians.
This channel is by far one of the most fascinating channels I’ve come across. Amazing content.
i remember seeing a TV documentary back during the 2012 election of how Mitt Romney's distant family where Mormons who settled in northern Mexico. Apparently after escaping the persecution in their early years they left west to Utah which was still a part of Mexico at that time, but when the US expanded west some of the Mormons decided to just head south.
I dated a girl from one of those colonies. She was a very nice person
It was part of the Mormon “colony” concept promoted by Brigham Young. Basically he was so used to getting driven out of every other settlement that they had been in that he decided to establish a bunch of communities all over the Mountain West (including Chihuahua and Sonora).
yup.
The leader of the Church (grandson of counselor to 2nd church leader) during late 1970’s to early 1980s whose counselors of his full presidency is related to Mitt Romney and has a sister is a catholic nun and he was born in Mexico and speak Spanish although he is of Anglo American background
@@nathangale7702 Brigham Young’s couselor and friend’s grandson is the church leader during late 1970s to early 1980s he is Spencer W. Kimball his wife’s brother’s son is recent counselor to current LDS church leader
Been in Utah (not by choice) for 5 years. Mormons here are different from other areas. Definitely flawed, but they try and do good around the world with missionary work. I think this helps out by seeing the world and others cultures.
Love the channel and always love learning new things about people/cultures. Great work!
I can imagine it's different in America because of all the comments saying people who leave the church get disowned or commit suicide.
None of that happens where I live, a friend's child left and he hasn't been disowned nor even thought about committing suicide.
Is Mormonism more pressurised or something with the majority of the Utah area being members of the church. It's the minority where I live.
What about their own women.....are they doing good there?
@tomdillan4820 You said “Mormons in Utah are different from other areas. Definitely flawed.”
You showed how biased you are and how little you know about Latter-day Saints by passing judgment on these people.
As long as they don’t push it on me, who cares right?
Well done, I have watched a number of your videos. I find them very informative and educational.
Hey Mason, here's a group that might fascinate you as much as it does me: The Church of the East, sometimes called Nestorian Christians. There was a schism between them and European Christians after the council of Ephesus (431). Headquartered in Iraq for most of its life, it spread to India and China, at one point, outnumbering the European Christians. They were an integral part of the Mongolian Empire. But the Black Plague and various persecutions throughout the years dwindled their numbers. Now there are less than 400,000 and they are headquartered in Chicago, IL,, of all places, but span all over the world.
An incredible group. Seems right up your alley. Would love to hear a full Masaman analysis of them.
Great job as always!
Mike Williams I’m apart of this community, was born in Iraq and now live in San Diego!
Nice, fair video. There are a lot of rabbit holes people tend to go down when talking about Mormons, but you did a great job avoiding that and giving the important broad strokes that make us different from other religious groups. As I’ve studied other religions, I’ve become increasingly aware of how much my Mormon upbringing has and will always affect my values and personality in a way that most other Christians haven’t experienced in their specific denominations, so I agree with you that it’s fair to argue that we are an ethno-religious group.
Hi, I really love your videos. :) Would it be possible to make a video on the Finns and Estonians, deeper going into the genetics of them?
Like all civilized people Do I understand the truth of Mormomism, thanks to south park.
Hail Giratina The true god yeah same lmao. I looked more into them and their history and beliefs are just too ridiculous.
#magicunderwear
Not nearly as deranged as Scientologists, but they do indeed come in at a close, very close second.
you can learn as much from Sherlock Holmes, the first book of which is full of "this is what Mormons actually believe"
And Matt and Trey's subsequent smash musical. Although the conversion of General BF Evil was inspirational LOL.
I heard that one of the creators of Southpark used to be a member of the church of Jesus Christ.(nick name Mormons) I ended up investigating the Church because of that Show, and I found it that it was true. no Joke! It is the restored Church of Jesus Christ. Who would have thought eh?! The depth and scope of it is without parallel in my experience!
You forget about the times they went to war with the United States and helped build Vegas.
Azzain96,
In order to do so he would have to do it on a separate video about half an hour long, the history takes a lot of explaining in order to be understood.
If you've got nothing but a bad impression from your sources I can promise you information was left out. If they were this outrageous war people others attempted to make me think why didn't they act in such a way a Zion's Camp and the ways they reacted to been forced and kicked out of states. They willingly left by the dates that the locals gave without fighting, so there's obviously more to all these events you hear of.
The USA invaded Deseret. They went to war with us.
For the United States not with but I’m sure you meant that.
@@danielmoore4024 Because there were more locals. They didn't leave when the "lamanites" tried to kick them out. They merked every man, woman and child. Mormassacre, Mountain Meadows Massacre.
@@stephenbrady5220
As missionaries returned to Joseph in Missouri the Church rapidly increased making locals fear all politics would go the Church's way.
The leader of Governor Bogg's army watched the Latter-day Saints and noticed all they wanted was their rights and that they were following all laws of the land. The leader sent a letter to Governor Boggs and he wasn't interested.
When they took Joseph to Liberty Jail you know how desperately they wanted Joseph killed, why would they wait 4 months?
How could Joseph escape from Liberty Jail alone? The jail guards knew Joseph was innocent of the accusations so they secretly released him for they were not members of the anti-mormon community.
I'm not thick and stupid, I always know when you leave information out to deceive and lie to me, why would I trust you liars?
Very happy that you reached 200k ... im here since before you got 10k subs.
A good friend of mine comes from a Mormon family and he's half Mexican, half Native American. It's pretty interesting to see how the religion has meshed with his family.
That's so odd considering Mormons believe that anyone with dark skin are the descendents of Caine and if they pray enough they'll be white again. I hope he wasn't rasied in a racist environment but from what I know and have personally dealt with from LDS I doubt it.
@@NdkDeSmet You're going by that anti-Mormon info. The ''they'll be white again'' doesn't pertain to race.
Dread Riding Hood actually we don’t all believe that.
@@NdkDeSmet Native Americans are God's Chosen People, as an offshoot of the Tribes of Israel according to the Scriptures.
@@NdkDeSmet we literally don’t believe that 😂
Hi Masaman, One of the other commenters mentioned the uneven sound quality.
I did not notice another flaw in this video, but in others, I get the impression that
you don't stop to breath when you change paragraphs.
Always enjoy your work.
Utah seems like a very nice state.
Any Masamen from there?
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legofreak446
Yeah seems cool and chill place to live.
I always thought of that State as safe, outdoors, and relaxing to live.
Me. Utah is badass-I know it and Mormons very well. If you have any questions, lemme know.
Casual Curiosity what do Utah people think of Colorado?
JordaniusVonR303 they’re our Rocky Mountain brothers and sisters ;)
I can’t speak for all Utahans but I love the state and the people. I like from time to time taking the train to Colorado and visiting over the weekend.
Casual Curiosity good to know👍
Back in the 1800s, the Mormon leader James Strang had set up a kingdom on Beaver Island, Michigan. Technically, he was king of the church there, but his followers so outnumbered the other residents, that he was effectively making decrees for the entire island. But, unfortunately for Strang, the locals got sick of it, and some of the people rose up and two of them actually murdered him right on the docks of the island.
I have a friend that is Mormon.
And as lover of history I was so curious of this religion and you sir answered it.
Guarionex Batista - why didn't you just ask your friend?
1 hater's video and you're all educated about Mormons? I guess your love of history vanishes when it's Mormons involved...I know, let's ask Maxine Waters about the Republican party. I'm sure we'll get the unvarnished truth! wow
Look up Joe and his 34 wife's that he didn't tell his first wife, or meadows murder, or Joe the con mam, or the mormon bank fraud.... or how Joe killed 2 and shot 1 in jail always look intoeverythingnot just the mormon bs they tell you .. God bless everyone
@@eltongy1936Because they will never tell you the full story. They omit information and will only tell you what they want you to hear.
Thank you. This is the first time that I have seen a video on RUclips form someone outside of our faith that was completely non-partisan. Keep up the good work.
This is a weird comparison, but I feel like The UK’s equivalent of Mormons is oddly people from north east Scotland, particularly Aberdeenshire and Angus, and especially the rural counties there. It’s surprising, but the reason I say this is that the people there are often very Christian, traditionalist, polite and have a high birth rate with large, close families. I don’t really know why this is the case, but I’ve observed it to be so...
NewBenCity one of the interesting things that he didn't bring up except in passing was that many early Mormons were British. They did not come here for Mormonism, they came here for the free land the Mormons were offering. Being a landowner to them meant being royalty of sorts. So many came.
You're full of shite
Are they also racist like all mormons in the US? Like believe dark skin is related to sin?
@@NdkDeSmet ?
Yeah, they're great unless you're gay or a former Mormon c:
As a former Mormon I second this comment.
@hunter christensen Pretty accurate. you are the exception.
@hunter christensen I probably know 5000 mormons and have met 20,000 more. Don't know where you are living. Can't think of any mormon who hasn't expressed concern about me leavin the fold.
Even tonight a cousin wrote: "You're not the young boy I used to know. What about your mission what about the Miracles you saw what about the Miracles you performed. You can't deny that. I love you Shawn one day you will come back."
He just doin what the cult has programed him to do. It's said, but that's how the human pscyhe works.
@hunter christensen anecdote andy over here
Could you do something about the arctic Islands in northern Russia. Really interesting although nobody seems to ever talk about it.
Thanks for the video. I appreciated the history. A few corrections. The whole video was on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but you have FLDS members on the cover picture. Furthermore, missionaries were sent to many different people early on. One of the first missions was to Native Americans. However they had most of their success with fellow American and Western Europeans and so focused their efforts on them. Following WWII, with improved travel and language learning, the Church finally started to be more successful with non-European people. The Church had so much success in England early on that for over a decade there were more members in England than America. This changed after most of them emigrated to the US. Good work. Keep it up.
As a non Mormon in Utah... i learned this in 4th grade in school they talk about the history a lot here
I have hadany discussions with Mormon theologians and bishops.
Our agreed upon conclusion- based on Mormon teaching:
Mormons are anti-Nicean Christians. This separates them, fundamentaly, from Roman Catholics, Protestants, and Eastern Orthodox.
There is no judgement in this statement.
let me see if i've got it right The CHURCH of JESUS CHRIST of LATTER SAINTS is the only true Church on the face of this planet and is equal to none, right.,that wasn't hard to figure out . all i did is ask HEAVENLY FATHER and HE told me so ......you can do the same if you are truly sincere after all you are HIS son,,,,,,, next/////////////
This guy actually gets it.
Correct. I'm Mormon, and that's what I've been trying to say. We believe in Christ, in fact he is at the center of our church, but we are anti-Nicean.
That should really be 'Ante-Nicene' as in the Ante-Nicene Period (~ AD 100 to 325).
Christian Holmstedt The LDS church does not use the Nicene creed as the fundamental statement of their beliefs. Almost all other denominations calling themselves “Christian” do, so the LDS church, and I believe also the Jehova’s Witnesses, are the main exceptions. I would phrase that as being “non-Nicene”, not necessarily “anti-Nicene”.
The question is: what definition do we use for “Christian”? Make it sufficiently loose and you may have to include Muslims because they have certain beliefs about Jesus as well, but they do not consider him divine, because God is indivisible (Tawhid).
Why any of this is relevant for vetting a presidential candidate is beyond me.
Thanks for the thorough explanation... Now I know a bit more about my neighbor, who truly is a "good Mormon" (friendly, helpful, selfless in good deeds for the community, abstaining from strong drinks etc.). It will be easier to have a conversation with him about his religion after learning the background from you :-)
You could just ask him. I’m sure he’d be happy to answer your questions.
You could also ask me--I was a Mormon for 51 years before I learned the true history that was hid from us all that time. I'm not bitter, but I'll never go back.
@@andrewsky59 You left the Church. What faith have you embraced now?
Kind of surprised you didn't bring up James Strang or Joseph Smith III. I mean I'm not Mormon (proudly Eastern Orthodox) but they are interesting and untouched parts of Mormon history.
Joseph Smith III is the founder of Mormon denomination ( another Joseph Smith’s descendant is return to LDS church) but Brigham Young is the founder of most famous of Mormon denomination which is LDS
James Strang and Joseph Smith III formed their own break off churches. So they were not part of the church after Brigham Young and most of the members left for Utah.
I enjoy your channel very much. You are very good, but your sound quality across your catalog of work is in need of study and attenuation. I notice panning where you probably did not mean to have any -dialogue, in this manner, set to the center as mono is a must -I also notice you have dynamic difference between clips of your voice - some will be quiet and then suddenly loud! Depending on your editing tools this can be rectified through normalization, compressors, limiters. Sometimes you have clipping audio - good to watch out for that too.
I only bring this up because arguably more than half of your product is your voice narrating your research, presenting to us all. You have great photos and maps, graphs etc, and your editing there is great. I think simply by bouncing out your recorded audio into a summed mono file, and keeping an eye on the leveling, your videos would rise to a whole new level.
All the best,
be well,
Culain
What I appreciate about mormons is their strong traditional values that they manage to hold onto in spite of the changing times.
Don't they also believe God, Jesus, and the Devil are all aliens?
Cameron B nope.
@@cameronb7161
Something like that. Apparently there are multiple planets that humans live on according to their beliefs.
But they stopped practicing polygamy
@@Reub3 they’re not planets it’s like hell the celestial kingdom etc, the better you are you go to heaven but there’s other place for people who were of faith but didn’t get to heaven but didn’t go to hell
Can you do a video on amish and Mennonites?
yessss, i asked for this video a couple months ago, thank you!
Took a trip to Provo (supposedly a "more" Mormon town than SLC) two summers ago and spoke with the receptionist at the main Mormon temple there. While I don't subscribe to their beliefs, my respect for the LDS church definitely grew after our conversation. He was very honest and didn't hide anything. Even though I never prompted him or asked him about it, he openly told me that, like any religion, there are those who converted to the Mormon faith who do not follow its doctrines. He said that, like any other community, Provo's Mormon community has its share of drug users, alcoholics, and criminals. Maybe other branches of religions do this as well, but I've yet to run into one where a spokesperson was this straightforward and honest.
Good presentation, just a few notes. Since the LDS founded Nauvoo, Joseph Smith was the person who came up with the name, it isn't so much that he took control, then founded it. Also, early missions to Hawaii, New Zealand, and other pacific islands were happening at the same time as those to northern Europe. The first Native American LDS Bishop was ordained in the 1860s, the first Mauri Bishop was in 1870s, and Tonga in the 1890s. So those groups are far older than described.
The town was were Mormonism started was not correctly mapped. The town was western New York near Rochester area.
Oh massaman aost forgot good video I wish you could explain the paintings in this video for some reason alot of the characters in the pictures had black face even the one who killed John Smith if you have any information on that please let me know ounce again love the unbias info thanks.
*Excellent job as usual on history and anthropology, but what is the Mormon religion as compared to other Christians?*
Man, I'm surprised of how religious many of these people posting in the comments are.
@transylvanian It's not just my fellow Americans that are doing that.
Church of LDS is like a Nation within a Nation.
So, the Vatican?
@@mathieubelliveau3916 They are both Cults, but the Vatican is the biggest and "Mother" of Cults around the world.
KJVNEWS idiot
@@mathieubelliveau3916The Vatican is not an LDS Place it’s a Catholic Place the LDS place is Utah but it’s not a Country it’s a U.S. State
Love this channel.
It would be good if you could do a video on Nothern Ireland/Ulster and some background behind its conflict.
I'm always surprised by how much mormon hate is in the comments of any video which talks about mormons. They're a very nice people who have different views on Jesus.
My favourite mormon story is my father-in-law, he was raised in a mormon family here in chile and when he was sent to utah for his missions, he took a cartain detour to las vegas... You can figure out that he is no longer a mormon
Matías Klein seems like a really convoluted way to get to Vegas.... Also This sounds like this Mormon story may also be a how I met your mother/ conception story
what, where did you get your source that the western migration was based on Joseph Smith? The standard story is Young was inspired by God to do it. Also, the Mormon church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint) fell apart and split apart after Joseph Smith died, and a number of "Mormon" churches were formed afterwards, the largest was Young's ("The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)
What denomination was Joseph Smith Jr. Raised with? What was Joseph Smith Sr.?
The Church actually began preaching to Polynesians and Native Americans very early on in it's history. I believe it was in the 1840s that missionaries were sent to French Polynesia. The Hawaiian translation of the Book of Mormon was I believe only 2nd or 3rd of all of the translations made so far. There was a small Hawaiian settlement in Utah for a short time. The Church made early attempts at preaching in Asia and Latin America as well but was met with more success in Europe.
- 2nd gen LDS from Florida
There are still Tongan and Samoan wards in SLC.
@@johnlee1352 Has there skin turned white yet, as the Book of Mormon says it will?
And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.
- 3 Nephi 2:15
And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people.
- 2 Nephi 30:6
An old saying about avoiding poverty is to finish high school, don't have kids before turning 20 years old, and don't have kids before getting married. That Mormons on average are more prosperous than others may be related to their culture strongly encouraging them to follow this path.
I have many Mormon friends, and I like them very much.
I’m a Non-Mormon that lives in both Logan and Salt Lake City. So I’ve seen both the Mormon and non Mormon sides of the state, and I must say a big thing you’ve gotten wrong is the divorce rate. Mormons have an even higher divorce rate then the national average because so many get married before they are ready. Many marry before they even have their first real job at the age of 20 - 23. We have billboards advertising divorce lawyers because it’s such a lucrative business here. I think this wasn’t always the case but it most certainly is now.
actually the divorce rate was even higher when Brigham Young ran the church. Polygamy was a real killer.
Masaman can you talk about Cuba, and the Cuban Exodus to the US, and also about the current Cuban-American culture. Thanks!
I wonder what a video on Seventh-day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses would be like for a Masaman idea.
Jehovah's Witnesses are mostly convertees, so I doubt they would count as an ethno-religious group, which is the traditional base of any discussion on religion in this channel
You may not like or accept their belief but they are the type of people you want for your neighbours.
Awesome video!
Ok, I have to say that when I saw you say that we were one of the most counfounding but loveable religious groups in the world today, I almost cried. I'm not saying our church is the only one who experiences this - far from it! - but we receive so much hate and mockery from so many people that I was struggling just to find a positive video that even gives us a chance as people. I just wanted to let you know I appreciated that SO much, I actually almost cried seeing that!! So thank you so much!!
I am amazed, how much the number of unaffiliated voters increased in only 10 years. Good to see, that this is not only a European trend.
Great channel, too bad about the comment section.
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That is the best part its so funny.
Agreed. It is too bad (and ironic) that many of the comments in this channel don't display the same level of objectivity, open-mindedness, and professionalism that Masaman conducts in his videos.
Allot of people are disrespectful
Welcome to the RUclipss! I guess I haven't scrolled down enough yet but I expected worse.
The uneven audio volume was too distracting.
I know you did a video about the celts but you should a video about what happened to the Gauls, and just how Gaulish are the French?
The best Mormons are The Aquabats, an amazing ska punk/new wave/pop punk/surf rock band.
I'm a 3rd generation Mormon from Mexico City and long time follower of your channel. I really liked your video!
That's right, we usually try to marry within the church (I did it). I was a missionary in Las Vegas, Nevada and it was a great experience. We can drink caffeine (like in soda) just not coffee.
Thanks for clearing that up.... what about decaff coffee???
What about cold brew or iced coffee or frappiccinos since they are not hot drinks?
You look like mexican, no mormon!!
bean fabin He just said he was from Mexico...???
Nefi Arenas Salazar: Mucho gusto amigo. Se ve que estás bien involucrado en la religión SUD o Mormón, y según to comentario, puedo ver que tu familia está bien sumergida en dicha religión. Afortunadamente puedo mantener mi anonimidad por el internet siendo que mi familia pretenece a la religión SUD al igual que yo, pero no por mi propia voluntad. Yo he dejado de creer en la religión mormona por mas de diez años, pero debido a mis propias circunstancias y el hecho de que mis papás requieren de mi ayuda directa, no he dejado la religión (aunque quisiera). Lo que te sugiero es que realmente investigues la historia y las doctrinas de la religión y notarás que hay inconsistencias. Aparte de eso, no puedo creer en el Libro de Mormon. Hay muchas evidencias que apuntan a que fúe una producción propia de su época.En la época de Joseph Smith, hubieron muchas fuentes que José utilizó como influencia para elaborar dicho libro. Fuentes tal como 'View of the Hebrews o escritos como 'The War of 1812' ademas de la versión de la biblia King James del siglo 16 cuyos errores fueron transferidos directamente al Libro de Mormon en ciertos pasajes. Aparte de eso, siento que la manera que el Libro de Mormon representa a los nativo americanos (dichos Lamanitas) es muy estéreotipico y denigrante. En una forma sutíl el Libro de Mormon atribuye grandes ciudades y edificiaciones a los nefitas blancos, y de cierta manera usurpa todos los logros de las ciivlizaciones nativas a los nefitas (si es que lees y crees en le Libro de Mormon de manera literal). Finalmente, una parte del mormonismo que no puedo aceptar y se me hace muy pertubador es la sección 132 de Doctrinas y Convenios al que las autoridades refieren como 'la revelación del matrimonio eterno,' pero en realidad es la revelación o (justificación para José Smith) del 'casamiento plural' o 'polygamia.' Te invito a que lo leas. A diferencia de otros pasajes que no fueron incluidos en la edición final de Doctrina y Convenios, este pasaje sigue presente en las versiones actuales de DyC. Honestamente, no puedo creer en un Dios tan misogino como aquel representado en esta sección. Aquí en Estados Unidos el número de miembros SUD dejando la religión está incrementando exponencialmente. Lo mismo ocurrirá en México también, porque la verdad vence cualquier mala información o engaño eventualmente.
Great video!
Thank you, kind sir, for a fair lesson on this subject.
While I still officially am classified as “Mormon” since my dad doesn’t want me rescinding my membership until I’m 18 in a month, I “spiritually” left the Church when I was 12 or 13, and stopped attending at 16.
I didn’t like their rules, called the “Commandments.” My free speech was suppressed because I couldn’t swear, women couldn’t dress however they wanted because they needed to be “modest,” and a bunch of other stuff.
But what I perhaps hate the most is that the religion itself isn’t actually that restrictive, but is so easy to fall to misinterpretation. For example, Mormons actually can drink caffeinated beverages, just “no hot drinks” which obviously isn’t clear. It’s so stupid.
Good. Resign as soon as you can.
You did take a good decision... This kind of religious cult that try to differ from others in many habits, freaks me out..
BFDT
Once I turn 18 on September 8th, you bet
Carl DEE Morris2
degenerate subhuman
The WitchKing
Why tho
I have to seen many of these young well dressed men in the streets trying to get people engaged and I see them giving to the down and outs ,there are a lot worse people in the world then them ,believe me.
Like Scientologists.
Volume is up & down, had to adjust frequently.
What other religions believe that God is a living man? Quoting from "Meet the Mormans" film from the way back days of VHS.
I’m a Latter-day Saint and from Utah, love your content! Thanks for providing a balanced overview of the group, most videos I’ve seen covering the history seem pretty one-sided. Keep up the good work :)
I am a Mormon if by Mormon you mean member of The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints and to participate in the poll will be hard for me, because it is foggy to me what the definition of a Christian is. If it's simply someone who believes Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world and we can only be saved by Him then yes. Or that He's suffered for the sins of the world, then yes. That He's deity then again yes. The very Son of God yes. These I think would fit a good definition in my opinion. However if it is that you believe in the Trinity that there's 3 in one and one in 3 then no. If it's that just because Jesus suffered for the sins of the world you just have to say you believe and after that you can go on a killing spree and still be saved I again say no. If it's that there is no hope for the good honest hard working man or woman in China only because they have never heard of Jesus then no. If it's accepting the Niacene Creed that was voted on but not scripture other than The Bible then no. We know The Book Of Mormon is true! It has taught me that Jesus loves all humanity and truly lives all humanity and there is true repentance that brings true forgiveness through Jesus Christ. If being a Christian means that I think God is incapable of speaking to is today as He did in the days of The Bible and revealing more of His word, more scripture then no.
I'm pretty sure it was the Mormon missionary but anyhow how to help for 3 fence post
You should do a video on the "Cradle of Corn," Tehuacan, Puebla, Mexico. Without corn, the history of the world pre and post colombian would be very different.
I think Mormons doctrine is stupid but I do appreciate their traditionalist and religious lifestyle
BnBCraft - the doctrine of the Latter Day Saints is actually incredibly understandable and leaves all other Christian or Other faiths behind.
I think everything about their lifestyles and beliefs are stupid
Creepy Closet - such as no sex outside of marriage? No smoking? No illicit drugs? Yea I can see why you would not like those. But that is how webelieve
@@tyndale25 I also like how mormons encourage their members to have large families
Now that one is true. We do like large families. I came from a family of seven children. My wife and I had 5 children. My son had seven. Psalm 127:4-5
Thank you Masaman! It is honestly quite rare to find such a positive report about Latter Day Saints from non-Latter Day Saints. I can tell you though that the early Latter Day Saints were actually far more peaceful, polite, and generous than us modern ones are. In fact, a lot of us today aren't all that good at it. A big part of Joseph Smith's work was to make a society that would extraordinarily help poor newcomers settle in their gathering place among other generous things... and he did, like no other civilization I know of.
Their were countless attempts by mobs AND even the government to illegally get rid of the Latter Day Saints. Time and time again, property and even homes were stolen or destroyed, there were many lives lost due to the mobs, and multiple times the government had forced them out of their communities with nothing in return, which they worked so hard to build. The early Latter Day Saints had done nothing wrong, yet everyone around them was against them. The most incredible thing is that instead of attacking back like most people would do at this point, they moved on with their lives and tried their best to forgive and love their enemies.
There are so many records that Latter Day Saints kept that prove these things. And after 10+ years of studying many both pro and anti Latter Day Saint reports, I haven't come across one story against anything Ive said here. Some may claim that early Latter Day Saints were evil, but they have nothing to prove it.
Please also note that polygamy didn't come into the story until the Nauvoo, IL period. If Polygamy is what brought you to the conclusion that early Latter Day Saints were bad, please look into it further. I'd rather you believe that the polygamy period was a temporary drop in righteousness, rather than they were always selfish people until they gave that rule up.
Whether you choose to believe these things were from God like I do or not, I would like you to do some more research here. You can watch "Joseph Smith: Prophet of the Restoration for a more accurate story.
Thanks again, it is always wonderful to see a non-member who cares about us enough to make any positive mentioned of us online.
You're version is nothing but Mormon church official propaganda
hi Mason have you read the book of mormon
The Prime Minister of New Zealand (former LDS member) has an uncle who met my sister during their meetings in LDS young/young adult conference
There is a lot to criticize about the LDS religion but one I don't think is valid is that they believe in absurd things. Nearly every religion has absurd beliefs, like coming back from the dead. If Mormon teachings were 2000 years old, instead of 200 we'd accept them as normal for a religion.
Mormon beliefs are less absurd than those of older religions, because the founders had more modern information. The only reason people think older religions are less absurd, is that they've been around so long people are used to their claims.
+Larry F
+Worthless Winner
Thank you both for your comments on this. I too think that if Mormonism had formed millennia or more ago it would just be another 'ordinary' religion.
I guess this is true. Part of the problem with Mormonism is that it didn't start very long ago so we have a lot of documentation & records about their founder so its easier to spot the obvious falsehoods. Of course, its hard to compare beliefs of older religions to say.... the belief that Jesus lives on a planet Kolob and that every mormon gets their own planet after they die.
true larry however the LDS can be proven false lol today only 200 years old. Danger we have a problem lol. Joseph was a con man before getting into the religion game. Did door to door treasure hunting for money lol
@@WorthlessWinner I don't see 2000 old religions claiming that A Lost Tribe came from the Americas, and brought a myriad of domestic Flora und Fauna like potatoes, squash, vanilla or llamas, yet that is exactly what Mormonism claims switched the other way around.
as a former adherant of the mormon religion I would like to say thank you for making a reapectful history of our people that dosnt misconstrue beleifs to villianize us. Although I am surprised you left out everything on the Utah war.
A lot of blurred out numbers in the charts ... plz explain....
Audio is super rough on this one.
I've known some Mormon missionaries who came out to the reservation. In my experience they've always been polite if not weird, but really their religion is just as foreign to me as other forms of Protestant Christianity or Catholicism. The one thing they have going for them is they don't have that history of centuries of colonial abuse against us like their Catholic and Protestant counterparts do.
No, but they certainly have an extraordinarily outlandish set of beliefs about the origins of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. Did you, for example, know that your ancestors were really Jews whose skins were darkened for their sins? That’s their belief and why they call you Lamanites.
What reservation? I am a "ex-mormon" estranged from the community. They think Amerindians are descended from Jews. Not worth your time to listen to them.
@@shawnreed7876 Exactly
@@shawnreed7876 Navajo, but they're more focused out on Hopi land.
I'm aware of the Lamanite thing too. Depending on who you talk to, other Indians find it amusing or offensive. I guess I lean toward amusing. Some missionaries years back used to visit me all the time and I guess they got tired of my questions about the red skin thing.
@@maiidegeese5052 What do you mean "red skin thing"? The Book of Mormon is flat out says "dark skin bad, light skin good". Is that what you are referring to? I know a couple Navajos who think they are "Lamanite" in spite of all genetic and linguistic studies proving otherwise. For example the Navajo and Apache are Athabaskan which originated out of Alaska/Siberia. I don't know about the Hopi but I doubt there is any historical connection to them and the middle east were someone to investigate it. As for the history of the Dine and the Mormon church, the Mormon church's youth placement program I don't think was a good thing. My friend told me his mom got placed in Provo Utah and basically became an unpaid domestic servant for her hosting family.
I enjoyed Utah. I got free Mormon books there in multiple languages.
Would you ever do a video about the people of Bhutan/Tibet/Nepal?
Yes
Plz do a video about people of nepal
My grandma was a Mormon. My dad, her son, thought it was a cult. Growing up though, I never saw any specific Mormon thing she did. She just made sure we prayed during dinner and before bed. She didn't go to church, because she lived in Northeast Oklahoma and there was no LDS church there. I'm sure if there was, we would have gone. But my dad raised us Baptist. Currently I am no longer affiliated with any church. But even though I don't consider myself Christian anymore, I feel like my values are strongly Christian based.
Dear Raziel i testify that the CHURCH of JESUS CHRIST of LATTER DAY SAINTS is the only true Church on the face of this planet in and of it only will you live again with grandma beyond the grave lllllllllll please keep in touch
Marilyn Watene Everyone testifies their religion is the one true religion. Considering humans are sinners and a bunch of liars and spreading untruths. Who do you believe?
2:37 hey the church also targeted non euros for conversion too in the Doctrine and covenants mormon scripture they are commanded to preach and convert various tribes of native americans throughout the early church pacific islanders are also targeted for conversion and also had a mormon settlement in utah called Iosepa city of Joseph. Missions were established all across India and the rest of Asia and were closed because of inter cultural difficulties this was all in the later half of the 1800s, Aboriginal Australians were accepted into the priesthood. Africa was the only prohibited continent because of the mormons african race policy.
Yeah, Mason's statement on proselytizing was inaccurate. It is unfortunate, however, that his statement about the leadership being very White was spot-on for a very long time. I'm glad this has changed significantly in the past few decades.
Can you do a video of the Baha’is.
The Province of Alberta in Canada has a very large mormon population as well, particularly in the south.
I have that Ol' Mormon Hymn stuck in my head,the one that goes
" And then John Smith he found a hat, dum dum dum dum dum..
He put some stones into the hat, dum dum dum dum dum..."
I live in Utah and was raised LDS so I’m apprehensive about this video. I’ll hope for the best.
Same here. It's an accurate video. Why apprehensive? Shaky beliefs?
In my view, LDS doctrine is closer to the predominant philosophy shared by both Catholicism and most sects of Hinduism (and distinct from the 'faith' foundation of Protestant Christianity). This key point is that actions are more important than beliefs. It's not what you profess, it's what you do.
Despite the controversial history and to me unusual theology of the 'Mormons' I respect them. I am Buddhist BTW.
The first Sherlock Holmes book has the mormons as the villains. It's kinda strange, describing the then obscure American cult's violent history.
As a Tongan Mormon great video glad you finally made one.
You poor fool
Very good video, Masaman. I am a Mormon and you nailed this video! Very respectful for an outsider's perspective. Also, all of your points were very accurate; you clearly did your research! I do have to say though, I am a Christian. All Mormons are, hence why the official name of the church is the Church of Jesus Christ. We believe Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. In fact, the most fundamental belief stressed in the LDS church is faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ. I do struggle with the mentality that that there are people who believe they have the power to dismiss the Christianity of others as insufficient or inaccurate just because there are a few differences from the norm. However, I agree with Masaman that it is best when one forms their own opinion so don't just take my word for it.
Trinity?
muslims also believe in Christ as a Messiah and this does not make them Christians
if this simplistic view is your actual conception of what Christianity means then you have a very weak faith
transylvanian then why is Christianity the most practiced religion in the world?
BFDT Tank.
Gaspar Barão II Having spoken with several Muslims, I got the impression that Muslims revere Jesus Christ as a great teacher and a prophet. However, they do not view him as a Messiah, nor do they believe that he has any claim to divinity at all. Of course, I would accept correction from believers of Islam on that point, but that was the understanding that was conveyed to me. On the other hand, the Church of Jesus Christ believes in the divinity and godhood of Jesus Christ and also assert that he is the Creator and Savior of the world. Also, I view it as very obtuse to dismiss a faith or religion as weak just because they have a different view of Jesus Christ than you. I disagree with Islam, for instance, on many points. But, having seen the character of several of its believers, I can tell you that it is anything but a weak faith. ... And that's just one example.
I didnt hear you mention the Mountain Meadows Massacre....
Gave a thumbs up. Blacks were always allowed to be members. In the 1800's missionaries were sent to at least one pacific island chain, not only Europe. Thanks for giving us a fair shake.
This is the most correct and honest explanation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I have heard on RUclips. The term Mormon was a negative title given by critics many years ago. Mormons did not mind the title and kept it, but Mormon was never the name of the church. If we are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, of course we are Christian. As Christians, we want to behave as Christ taught for our entire lives. I hope I have, but I am not perfect. I love children and want to teach them to the best of my ability. Thank you for your essays on RUclips.
Nestorian is a negative title not Mormon
Half of the comments section is just Protestants and Catholics yelling at Mormons for being a different brand of crazy.
@@major5554 Catholic are the craziest
KV Tee ok heretic
In the final analysis, individual and group perceptions is all that counts.
Mormonism is non-trinitarian and therefore non-christian or at least unorthodox. It has much in common with ancient heretical groups such as Arianism and also with Islam. I was hoping for a mention of the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
The low divorce rate you reference is based on temple sealing releases, which are only necessary for women to get remarried. Until a sealing in released the church still considers the marriage to be valid. Men do not have to be released from their previous temple sealing to get remarried, because polygamy. The actual divorce rate is about the same as the national average.
While the church’s claimed membership numbers continue to grow congregation growth has been stagnant the last several years. Problem here is that the church doesn't do any kind of membership records cleanup. Most new converts will leave the church within a year of their baptism. Until somebody formally requests to be removed from the membership rolls, is excommunicated or their home congregation reports them dead the church continues to claim them until their 106th birthday.
Bible fan fiction
Lol.
Return of the Jedi basically.
Mark twain said something like that after he read the book of Mormon lmfao
@@Spongebrain97 can you link me where?
@transylvanian le edgy neckbeard atheist
To answer your question, the Mormon explanation of God does not recognise that the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are consubstantial which is a requirement of the Nicene Creed, which is generally considered the standard test of what is Christian. As such, the Mormon religion is a different religion to historical Christianity.
Ggdivhjkjl I thought Christians were people who believed Christ died so they could go to heaven.
lol your red dot on New York State is too far south and east... they were from here in north-west NY State near Rochester, NY