Hey All! Jessie here. I just filmed the PART TWO to this video and it is fully sourced with LDS documents. Please go check it out! (Especially those of you who have questioned the validity of the points made in this video.) Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
Hey Jessie, got any sources for this video? I was wondering because in the first minute and a half, that you said about a half dozen claims with no factual backup behind them. Where are the sources for this video, I would love to help clear up any confusion that you may have.You made all of these claims, but I have no idea where they are coming from.
@@gingerbrettman5665 You just replied to the comment with the direct link to the video where it is all sourced! I did a part 2 to this video that was published today and every single point is sourced out with LDS sources.
I have been a member for 2yrs and have found so many things wrong with the church that doesn't add up with the Bible. This yr I am getting back with my Christian ways and moving away from the Mormon beliefs
My friend is a former Mormon and she hob-nobed with "Mormon royalty" in the seventies..... She dated an Osmond, rode horses with apostle Boyd K. Packer's kids, was a winner in the Miss Provo and Miss Utah Pageants, ran for Miss USA, was Belle of the Y Princess, and did her PhD and taught at BYU. She knows all there is to know about Mormonosm, and she says this video is 100% TRUE and accurate! And my friend would LOVE to go on this podcast and help support Jesse---because Jesse is telling the Truth!
@@lauraevans3709.... The Osmonds are all phonies! My friend who knew them says they'll never leave Mormon cult as it gave them the opportunity to be "stars".. They were out for money and fame. And the church used THEM as a PR gimmick. They recruited their groupies into Mormonism . It was sick They even had a Osmond Convert Club to entice kids into Mormonism-- it was disgusting. The Osmonds were NOT Christians. My friend never heard them mention Christ even once. And Wayne tried to get her into the back seat of the car! After that she never dated him again as she was a Christian.
Married a mormon woman in 1998. I know this religion as I took lessons early on which made me decide it was false. Just this week my family decided to leave the church and you helped me open the eyes of stout mormons. Thank you for your help.
When I used to live in California, I went to a ward where people were kind, sociable and friendly to me. But one day, when I was at a grocery store, I went to a check out line behind a lady who goes to the ward and is usually kind to me at church. I called out her name with a greeting, no reaction from her. I tapped her on the shoulders with a greeting along with her name, no reaction from her. Then when I saw her at church the following Sunday, she greeted me with a smile. I decided to look at her as if I didn't know her, and didn't react to her.
When i was in a dark place, 2 missionaries knocked on my door they were the sweetest girls from america, i met with them several times, they wanted me to be baptised!!! I started to read the book of mormon.. but had never read old or new testament. So i started to read them first.... at this time id only jus accepted that there was a god!!!!!!! Something about the book of mormon jus didnt feel right even then... so i googled and found out most this stuff that was in the video. Jesus is the way.. no sequels.
@Taiwan92Abarth I'm a former Member, actually. If Moroni's challenge only has 1 answer and that answer is God is real and the church is true then that is an unfalsifiable claim. I received the opposite feeling about the BOM than yourself. Why is my experience less valid?
From the frying pan into the fire. If you really have a personal relationship with Jesus, you don't need a middle man. You are trying, but you are not free to worship as you were intended to until you can do it one on one, without someone in between telling you how you should be doing it. You know in your heart how to do it without interference or instruction Feel God in your heart and welcome Him all on your own. That is a relationship.
@@543US21 why do you assume l or he requires a middleman other than Christ Jesus. Speaking for myself, l do not need a middle man. I place my trust in Christ alone. He is my living hope.
@Taiwan92Abarth my profession involves deconstructing brainwashed cult members. LDS bears all the characteristics of a cult, it's very similar to Scientology in that it's polytheistic and members believe they can 'work' their way upwards and eventually become "Gods".
@Taiwan92Abarth Calling somebody ignorant is very childish. And second, you're in a cult! You're blind! Poor you! You are certainly brainwashed. Jesus is no brother of Satan. There is no polygamy in Heaven. Sex in Heaven??? NOT TRUE! Joseph Smith is a fraud! He took orders from Satan. Oh yeah! He had contact with the Devil. Mormons have been decieved, and are doomed for Hell. I'm glad I'm not a Mormon! I once attended a meeting. I'm never going back! The book of Mormon replaces the King James Bible. Any book that speaks other than the Bible, is Satan talk. You missed the point! I said I belong to no religion. I only believe in God, not man! What's also misleading is that Jesus came where the Aztecs were, and called it the New Jerusalem. No where does that say in the Bible! The New Jerusalem is yet to come. Not of this world!
Had Mormon girls come to my home and tried to convert me to Mormonism.Something felt off and I prayed to God for discernment and was led to your videos....
OMG!!! Same here same here!! The boys were so sweet and their talk was so smart that I felt we were the same category of christians but still something was off I felt like there were so much hidden things
My husband was born in the Mormon church. He became a Christian about 15 years ago. His mom, who is a very nice lady, but under the Mormon spell, kept sending missionaries to our home. I was the one usually home & would nicely say “ We are happy in our church, he is not home” They started trying to go behind my back to get ahold of him. Thankfully we moved last year & are in a gated community.
Christopher Foote Let me interpret for you: His mommy and daddy were Mormons. When he was born his family was Mormon. He was raised in the Mormon church. Or said succinctly: he was born mormon.
@@christopherfoote4643 hayy! We know what she Mean about being born mormon its about born and grown Up with brainwash mormonism endoctrinement process For 8 years before get baptise.Peoples are not dumb .we get it ,Nice try but your Little sect Tactic don't work here.
Christopher Foote My friend Christopher. It does matter because A) the Book of Mormon contradicts God’s revelation. B) we care for you guys and believe that you deserve better than living a life in a false teaching and doctrine. If you choose to remain Mormon then God will still be the judge. The difference is, if you join orthodox (correct teaching) Christianity then you will discover a relationship with God that you never experienced before.
People sadly get drawn in by the awesome fellowship that they experience and it is no wonder that “feelings” are so strong to join. But start asking the wrong questions and not accepting the bogus answers and see how long that fellowship lasts. Sinners don’t get to be accepted in the LDS church while Christians understand that church is specially for the sinners, all of us.
Not true. Everyone sins sometimes, however small. That is only true if they commit something horrible like rape, and don't every say sorry and repent for it.
Bro I was literally taught about Polgamy when I was 14-15 in Institute and was curious to know more and context and ask and was given source material from religious teachers, and became informed about anything I wanted to learn and was given historical references and learned alot and prayed about it and understood some of the possible purposes. But I was never denied answers rather given references and encouraged to pray and study.
am a recent convert...and within 4 months in already a 'jacked' Mormon. Why? They're as bad as the catholic church when it comes to hiding child predators. One ex-bishop has a pizza place, ONLY hires young teenage girls. His wife hired me. He was angry. I SAW him being inappropriate with teen girls. I went to the bishop and was immediately gas-lit. Likes it NOT effing 2023. Then i was fired. These schmucks are PATHETIC!
I left the Mormon church almost two years ago and am now attending a non-denominational Christian church. Having said that, I think it's important to remember that just because a Mormon said something at some point, does not mean that it is what all Mormons believe today. Many of the things that were shared in this video are simply not at all what I was taught in my 42 years of weekly attendance at the Mormon church. I realize there are probably references for all of the "facts" that were shared here, but that does not mean this is what all Mormons believe today. Mormons throughout its young history have said all kinds of things that are not considered to be the doctrine of the church today. I also know many Mormons who hold personal beliefs that do not necessarily reflect what is always said at the pulpit. This makes the whole conversation endlessly complicated. It is my hope that we can all offer one another the same grace that we EACH so desperately need in this life.
I understand fully what you're saying. Yes, I can back up every claim made in the video and I do admit that yes, some of the things are not taught today (but were at some point by a "prophet!") so I can't just dismiss the past stuff and pretend it wasn't taught. Most things stated are current beliefs, though, and are not disclosed unless you search it out and learn it for yourself. So many secrets. So much kept hidden. Even people who join the church usually have NO IDEA what is done in the temples or that the goal is to become a god one day. Most people are unfamiliar with Joseph and Brigham and other's polygamy and contradicting teachings about who God is.... etc!! And this info needs to be made known. I also hear you when you say to extend grace to one another but I simply cannot extend grace to people who are living in ignorance (many willingly) while they are serving an absolutely false god/gods. I need to proclaim the truth! As a Bible-believing Christian who loves Jesus and wants the world to come to know Him as their personal Savior, I have to expose false beliefs and proclaim the truth of the Word of God and I want to share the one and only true God and make Him known.
To be honest, I wasn't looking for a video such as this but the title caught my attention. Reading a lot of these comments, I have to say I agree with you. I had been a Mormon for over 30 yrs & I wasn't taught a lot of the things in this video & I have never heard of families not being able to be with their family members if they were excommunicated from the church. But hey, it seems a lot of church leaders in a lot of different denominations have never even read the Bible. So, the way I look at it is, if you want to be close to God, read the Bible, gain a close relationship with Heavenly Father and Jesus and don't sweat the small stuff. We can cant self righteousness till the cows come home and point the finger at any Church and go on a fault finding campaign but that will not make us better people. Just saying... probably good to ask questions and choose your lifestyle with care and thoughtfulness.
i don't want to detract from jessie's comment, but i do have a question for any mormon. how do you know what the true teachings of present day mormonism is? if you can't get it from reading the standard works, or elders quorum lesson manual, or sunday school manual, or the official online mormon website? how do you know for yourself what the true mormon doctrine is, and h ow do you know that jessie is not repeating official modern mormon doctrine? if there is no written documentation for what you believe, aren't you then in danger of leading yourself and others astray with false teachings?
@@longnamenocansayy My take is, if you can't find the info by reading the official works, manuals & etc. then you have to consider the frame of reference. Then too, look at all the changes in the Catholic church. People don't question the changes so it shouldn't be surprising that the Mormon church makes changes. I believe there is such a thing as spiritual growth so maybe... It's why we need to keep studying the Bible. God opens our eyes when we're ready and able to understand.
Julia Dawn Olson Just to throw my two cents in; I come from a very heavily influenced Mormon home and my mother believes every single point made in this video. The bottomline here, in my opinion, is not whether all Mormons believe the LDS church doctrine or have even heard of most of these things. It’s that this church was not founded on biblical principals and biblical account of Christ Jesus. Which makes it a false Christ (Matthew 24:24) and because they think works and baptism and repentance saves they will be cast out (Matthew 7:21-23) Ignorance is not the same as innocence and we should be mindful of what people who speak “Christianese” say. That’s my take
I am currently working for a mormon family…They have been tryng their best to drag me to their church…At first they asked the missionaries to come share the gospel with me…When they did i was so drawn to what they were saying and believed them…They have a way of manipulating and getting into your heard…The second time they came they had their bible with them and a copy for me…From the moment they left i had a lot of questions and doubts about their teachings because they were contradicting with what i have learnt from the bible and so i went on a 3 day fast…That is when the Holy Spirit spoke to me..I thank God i ddnt give in to temptation because their approach will make you believe in whatever they teaching…Very sweet,kind people you wouldn’t second guess them…I asked them to stop calling me and they must not bother coming to give me lessons..Its been weeks now and they are still texting me and tryng to manipulate me…Even the family im working for is busy trying to lure me to their gospel each and every day…I know i am in the right path with God and i will hold on to him forever
My step dad verbally and physically abused me most of my life and he was a cop and follows the Mormon faith and when I went to his bishop to ask for help I was told go back and say I’m sorry and obey him with out question
Im sorry that you were so mistreated by your father and those who are meant guide and nurture- that is not Christ-like at all. I hope you are healing now!
@@Kyraaa-rb3vc some days I wonder I’m an emotional train wreck most days do to ptsd anxiety depression anger outbursts plus I’m autistic my own family denies my step dad or the church for that matter we’re wrong for allowing this
@@Kyraaa-rb3vc I haven’t ben back to that church or any church not after the life I’ve led not after I became nothing more then a monster to everything I was once told that I am I ended up becoming homeless and lived out in a desert i have bounced from one side of the country to the other never truly having anyone to call friend or family
Mormons are legendary for their "newspeak" . as a jr high kid I was told not to tell people what church I attended, but to invite kids to church. That people would prejudge us without getting to know us...they were right. In high school i went to seminary classes before school, they had us study the KJV in my sophomore year. I kept reading it and by my senior year had many difficult questions and deep misgivings about what they were saying to outsiders vs. what they were teaching me, as i was preparing for missions, we had been to the temple and participated in baptism for the dead, and that KJV kept coming up, you know, John 3:16&17...Eph 2: 8-10...stuff like that...so I started asking questions. The questions were not welcome. And after a period of time, I wasn't either. Fast forward 2 years I join the Marines...on Sunday if you go to church you can escape the watchful eye of the drill instructors for 2 hrs! So I went to the LDS service...within 2 weeks of filling out the visitors card, tha minister in charge met me at the door and explained where all the other denominations met...I was blackballed! Not that I'm hurt, just a fun example of LDS love....the holy spirit got ahold of me a few years later, and I'm saved now. Pray for your LDS frieds, the indoctrination theye been through is powerful...they're convinced if they lose their membership they're eternally cursed...it's sad really, no assurance of salvation. Your telling the truth, keep it up. Titus 3:5-7 "according to his mercy"
YOur experience is completely different from mine Being Raised LDS (church of Jesus Christ of) I was taught to tell everyone what church I attended and to be proud of it. I did and I"m glad. Then my pentecostal friends invited me to their church when I was about 12. I asked my mom what I should do. She said I should go (which I did, those drums were pretty cool even though i sure wasnt used to them but still pretty cool) Then she said invite them to your church which I did. this was over 20 yrs ago and to this day I'm still friends with them. It sounds like your problem is with certain members and how they act but not "the church"
@@dukeball4ever1 I would say the problem is the church. The church wants you to worship a god that was once a man, wants you to make fun of Jesus Christ and say that he is the brother of Lucifer and wants you to believe another gospel. The Bible calls this idolatry, blasphemy and believing another gospel damns you to eternal torment in hell. Gal. 1:8 I had four LDS missionaries in my home and they wanted me to read the Book of Mormon and pray about it and God would automatically tell me it is true. I showed them from the word of God that I do not pray to their heavenly father who was once a man, so I would not get the answer that they would get. I worship the Creator. The true and living God the Father, who loves you and created you, was never once a man. Job 9:32 “In truth I know that this is so; But how can a man be in the right before God? “For He is not a man as I am that I may answer Him, That we may go to court together. I Tim. 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. The true and living God was never once a man. He exists by His own power. He is self-existent. He lives outside of the time, space and matter because He created time, space and matter. He has no mother or father, does not need air, food, water, sex, sleep, shelter, clothing, etc.. He is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, immutable, infinitely holy, eternal and so much more. The highest heavens cannot contain Him. He created Adam out of the dust of the ground. No wife needed. No pre existence. Why don't you worship your Creator? Jesus Christ never said you had to believe the Book of Mormon was true to get into heaven. Jesus Christ never said you had to believe Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God to get into heaven. Jesus Christ never said there was salvation only in the LDS church.
Actually I was disfellowshipped, the chaplain told I was welcome to attend any other service on the base....he did not say I was not welcome to attend theirs, but I was asked to leave (kinda the same thing)
@@dukeball4ever1 l once defended the church as you do, untill l researched and saw through the deception. You have simply not discovered the actual truth of the Mormon Corp yet. So many are taken in by their manipulative behavior. They change doctrine like most change underwear. God is not the author of confusion.
I rented a basement from a Mormon lady for a while. I went to the ward or stake or something a couple of times. A couple of missionaries came out and talked to me and you are right. it seems like we hit it off so well. They wanted to baptize me right away. Oh my goodness. But I got busy and started researching everything on the Internet. When I came across the part where they think that God the father is a human being, that was it for me. I went to her and said”You believe that God is a man? So who created God?” She said to God was created by another God who was in turn created by another God before him, etc., ad infinitum. I told her, “when you find the first God who was not created by any other god, That’s the God I’ll be worshiping!” I mean I guess I’m supposed to be merciful and compassionate, but really what I want to say is “how dumb can you be?”
You don't know even the first things of "The Word of God", but yet you DEMAND to know who the FIRST being was? That's like not even knowing how to count from 1 to 10, but yet you REFUSE to believe in numbers until you are told "who invented the first number"?- And you ask "How dumb can you be?"
"It's not secret, its sacred". "The church is perfect, its members are not". "We are a peculiar people". "Doubt your doubts". "Its a higher law, we cannot understand as mortals"....blah, blah, blah. The Mormons have a lot of canned answers at the ready when you bring up questionable stuff. Anytime you challenge someone, expect the canned answers to come out.
It's Me Jessie Oh and when I said whom the Lord call He qualifies, I meant those who are call by the authority of the Holy Priesthood. If you are not called to preach by that Priesthood authority you should not speak at all.
Burke Shields No, Our Heavenly Father is a God of order, he has one faith, one , baptism, and one church. He call women and men but that priesthood to preach and teach the Gospel. No man and that includes women take to this honor unto himself but he that was ordained as was Aaron. And how was Aaron ordained? By the laying on of hands by those who are in authority to administer the ordinances of the Gospel.
LDS. Huge push on FAMILY VALUES. As long as your LDS ( I'm no Mo). And stay married. I got divorced from a Mo and I was instantly excommunicated from the entire family. Which is fine. Seeing her father walk around the house in his Jesus jammies used to make my eyeballs throw up. And watching a bunch of grown adults crying their eyeballs out with their speeches aka "testament" about how much they believe in "the prophets" and Joey Smith (the pedophile) was depressing.
I take it you don't understand about divorces. When you get a divorce the person you are getting a divorce from their family will stop having anything to do with you because they're taking their family member side.I also have a feel they never liked you in the first place because you sound like real dumbass.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Apparently she is has never been to an LDS Church. Because most of what she is say is absolute BS. Love how she is like “I tell my Mormon friends and they never heard any of this”. Yes, because you are making up or repeating rumors you heard that don’t exist 🤦🏼♀️
I've been to the Sacrament meeting and classes afterwards. In recent months. I have LDS sources for every single point in this same video that I redid.. ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
My favorite LDS catch phrases: 'It's not secret, it's sacred' 'Put your questions on the shelf' 'Swearing is like a cockroach in the sundae' 'Keep sweet and pray'
@Vincent Regimbal There is a difference between secret and sacred. Because we don't talk about sacred things, people like to exaggerate and say that it is secret. Do you have any idea what what Jesus said about things that are sacred? Any idea at all? New Living Translation “Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. English Standard Version “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. Berean Study Bible Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. Berean Literal Bible Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the pigs, lest they shall trample upon them with their feet, and having turned, tear you to pieces. King James Bible Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. New King James Version “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. New American Standard Bible “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. NASB 1995 “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. NASB 1977 “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. Amplified Bible “Do not give that which is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, for they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. Christian Standard Bible Don’t give what is holy to dogs or toss your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, turn, and tear you to pieces. Holman Christian Standard Bible Don’t give what is holy to dogs or toss your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them with their feet, turn, and tear you to pieces. American Standard Version Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the swine, lest haply they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you. Aramaic Bible in Plain English Do not give a sacrifice to dogs; neither throw your pearls before wild boars, lest they trample them with their feet, and return to run you through. Contemporary English Version Don't give to dogs what belongs to God. They will only turn and attack you. Don't throw pearls down in front of pigs. They will trample all over them. Douay-Rheims Bible Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you. Good News Translation "Do not give what is holy to dogs--they will only turn and attack you. Do not throw your pearls in front of pigs--they will only trample them underfoot. International Standard Version "Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you." Literal Standard Version You may not give that which is [holy] to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the pigs, that they may not trample them among their feet, and having turned-may tear you apart. New American Bible “Do not give what is holy to dogs, or throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them underfoot, and turn and tear you to pieces. NET Bible Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces. New Revised Standard Version “Do not give what is holy to dogs; and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under foot and turn and maul you. New Heart English Bible "Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, or they will trample them under their feet and turn and tear you to pieces. Weymouth New Testament "Give not that which is holy to the dogs, nor throw your pearls to the swine; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and then turn and attack you. World English Bible "Don't give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. Young's Literal Translation Ye may not give that which is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the swine, that they may not trample them among their feet, and having turned -- may rend you. Get the idea???
@@I-AmTheLiquor Ah.. another ticked off person concerning MY religion... NOT YOURS!! I am sure you have told many people about what Books you read have to say about things. Books teach subjects to people when they can't spend the time gathering everyone around the campfire. My Book tells me many things. Other Books tell me many more things. And I am the one who gets to decide if the Book teaches things that are true... or things that are false. Not sure what your problem is but it is always nice that I just got you so riled up that you have to call me names. I know you are but what am I??? LOLOLOLOL
@@MrNirom1 “Oh bad man use bad word, and hurt my feelings, bad man must be wrong.” Using an argument from ignorance fallacy, and circular reasoning just further proves my point. You have no evidence to support the ladder points of the cult you hold so near-and-dear. Those of us who don’t just take the first thing we read at face value, and apply it to our everyday lives as fact tend to be more reasonable then those who lack the courage to research anything that conflicts with their singular understanding of reality. Learn to think for yourself, and stop relying on religion to think for you.
@@I-AmTheLiquor LOL you just think you know everything. I have researched my faith for the last 45 years I have been in it. There is nothing that anyone has come up with to show me anything different than what I believe. You have no idea what my life has been. But you are so arrogant you think you have it all figured out. You will put my religion down without revealing what your religion is. And I have noticed that you have not said one thing worth while that would even make me stop and consider you are right. If you can't control what you have to say...; then you are a bad man. A very immature one. You certainly didn't hurt my feelings. LOL Why don't you show us all how really smart you are and point out all those "ladder" points. hehehe
People rarely hear that M-O-R-M-O-N is one letter from M-O-R-O-N. It is believed that Joseph Smith had a hatred of religion and was a con man, so he chose to add the second M. Mormons claim that they believe the Holy Bible, but the Book of Mormon and their other books contradict the Holy Bible many times. When people are talked to about becoming Mormon, many of them ask questions that the young people don't know the answers to, so they research to answer and then find out many wrongs in their religion, then some quit.
@chrisspiller4443 the fact that Evangelicals give a pass at nonsense like calling us Morons just shows the truth behind the so-called Christianity of protestant Evangelicals
I spent most of my life in the church. Off and on again. Was not really active until later in my life. I took out my endowments at the age of 40 . I left at age 55 now 60. My family was always active in the church and they turned their backs on me as well as my wife and a couple of my children. I'm still married but not much longer. We agreed to just not talk about religion. But my wife has never passed up the chance to remind me of the huge mistake. And I just can't go on that way. Our marriage isn't a marriage anymore. Not even friendship remains at this point. Pretty miserable living with someone who you no longer have anything in common with. I'm pretty lonely aside from my relationship with my savior. I need a woman in my life. And because of my age and the fact I haven't dated in over 40 years. Just don't know where to start. Pray for me.
Sir, you need Jesus. Jesus said, "Follow Me." Jesus is the good Shepherd. Jesus will never let you down. John 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. Jesus is my substitute (i.e. Isaiah 53:4-6). He is way more than my example. A substitute does it for us. An example shows us how but we must still do it. He personally paid the penalty for all my sin. As a result, of His mercy I want to obey His commandments. Jesus as my righteousness, as our law-keeper (i.e. Romans 5:19, 1 Corinthians 1:3; Isaiah 61:10) The biblical truth is that Jesus kept the law for us I know for sure that I have been completely forgiven (i.e. Hebrews 10:14-17) and am accepted by God (i.e. 1 Peter 2:9). I know God is with me, providing and protecting me (i.e. Romans 8:31-39, Psalm 23). I know for sure that when I die I will live eternally with Heavenly Father (i.e. Philippians 1:23). I have no doubts because my acceptance by God depends entirely on Jesus’ work for me and he has already accomplished it (John 19:30). ruclips.net/video/r0mckI8Xfl8/видео.html
Sir, please dont give up. You did the right thing. I will pray for you okay. I just turned 60 this month. I am alone also, aside from having the Dear Lord in my life. Hang in there, my Friend.
That's what I used to think. I've never been happier since I've decided a woman isn't what I need. What I needed was to be ok with being alone. It's not only liberating, but I don't worry about trying to make someone else happy. Remember, you at one time thought your current wife was what you needed, how did that work out? No one to waste your time trying to do the impossible of jumping through hoops to make them happy... No one to disappoint=no one who will disappoint you. Think of being alone as a win-win situation.
even though I don’t want to be a member of the church anymore, and I am finding my way, a lot of the things you claim in the video aren’t true/way over exaggerated and misunderstood. There are definitely things about the church that have caused me to leave, but some of this is just not true.
Another mind blowing fact is that missionaries are tremendously pressured to baptize as many people as possible. In fact, missionaries make use of physiology techniques to deceive people and achieve their daily goals. The LDS church is a billionaire global organization which promotes missionary work and marriages in order to increase its membership and therefore its profits.
Here's a mind blowing fact. Tricking people into joining doesn't work, and is counter productive, and if a mission president can't see that, he should be released from his calling. Missionaries teach the gospel and the Book of Mormon. No psychological tricks, no deceptions. Also, the Church does not need money. The Church has plenty of money. So, that blows up the theory that we need members so they give more money.
@@lindalds I was a full time missionary! I know how things work! At that time I didn't realize I was doing such things cuz I was brainwashed. It's been 5 years since then and now my mind is clear to see things people like you do not want to see. When it comes to the money, how do you thing the church made its fortune? It's obvious. Missionary work, temples and marriages are investments foe the chuch, however, they sell those to its members and investigators as blessings, salvation, exaltation and happiness.
I wasn’t there, but I’ve known probably thirty five missionaries and I cannot stress to you enough that they are just 19 year old boys. They are not religious experts or scholars, they do not have a direct line to God 24/7, and they are not perfect. Please don’t assume that their refusal to answer (or maybe just confusion) is proof against their beliefs.
You have to realize that these young 18/19/20 yr olds are not perfect. They do their best to get a message along but they don’t have all the perfect answers
My Mormon Mission... God forgive me. So I was raised LDS, my father served an LDS mission. Growing up in a small Utah town all of my friends went on missions, but I didn't want to because I felt in my heart that the LDS church was not true. I never believed in Joseph Smith or the BOM. So I went to college, also in Utah. There I met other friends who were confused as to why I wasn't on a mission at the age of 19. I was under so much pressure from my family and friends to go. I was told that I would never get married and that I promised to save people before I was born, but that I would be letting them down if I didn't go. So I caved in and went. I never read the BOM until I was in the MTC. I still felt that the church was not true and that the BOM was invented. On the mission I followed all the rules to the exact detail (it's my personality). But every time I taught about good ol' Joe and his book I felt horrible and never believed it. I feel like the mission was an incredibly aggressive sales pitch for Mormonism. I was required to keep statistical data that was reported to the HQ every week. It's honestly like trying to sell a used car with no tires. But I grinned and bore the two year event and "returned with honor." Now I feel really bad because I drove people away from the true Christ (if he actually exists). So God please forgive me.
I know we spoke in a comment under one of my other videos... can I encourage you to read the book of John in the Bible? And also Romans? Just pick it up and read and seek God. Let Him show you exactly who He is. He is absolutely a God of forgiveness and you have always seen that Mormimonism was a lie... so because you are now free from that, my encouragement to you is simply to seek out God and find Him through His written Word, the Bible. If you read the New Testament like a child... just let it speak to you so you can discern for yourself who God is and what is truth. The RUclips video on Micah Wilder and his testimony while on his LDS mission is very powerful. I'm praying for you, Jeremy! God loves you so much.
@@johnlee1352 You're right. I never read the Book of Mormon before my mission. I should have clarified to state from cover to cover. I read portions in church, seminary, family home evening etc... Do you have to eat an entire pie before you know it's bad? Thanks for the personal attack. Peace be with you.
@@johnlee1352 Why are you making this personal. My intellectual reasoning is in part thanks to BYU where I earned my masters degree. It was also through reason that I learned the LDS Church is not true. I invite you with love to do the same. God bless.
It's easy to see the indoctrination and ridiculousness in other churches and religions, but most people are blind to the indoctrination and ridiculousness in their own. Religion is the great divider of people.
That is certainly accurate. It is difficult, but we need to turn our scrutiny upon ourselves, the beliefs we hold and behavior of groups we are part of and support. I think getting to know people and learning is one beneficial road. Any other ideas?
I’m a Christian and I agree. I try my best not to be ignorant of my own faith as well because of the fact that these different versions of Christianity exists. What makes what I believe any different?🤔
“The” CoJCoLDS is based on division, so is the Bible to be fair, but Mormons take it to the next level and then add another set of stairs to climb after you scale a rickety ladder to get there
I joined the church nearly six months ago. This month I came across D&C 132 which completely shattered my testimony (even though it’s literally in the cannon of the church) I plan on leaving the church. I am meeting with a pastor from a local Christian church tomorrow, please pray for me friends
That leaves me out at 55...and I would not submit to slavery by pregnancy . Also it's by faith we are saved not by works we are saved. However, faith without works is dead.
@Rhonda You are saved by Having Faith in Christ, You will receive Grace. It is a gift of God.once you have Grace. God will guide you to do his Works, not Man's works
James 2:26, it's in the context of James talking to the twelve Jewish tribes about their materialism in their ideas about works getting you into heaven. I love James, my favorite book that I've studied
you guys are silly. no one makes you have any kids .....just like outside of the church. you and your spouse determine how many kids you have. No one else even has a say. Just more lies being spread about Christ's church. Its' OK it was happening 2000 yrs ago and still goes on today.....i guess we are used to it :)
Salvation only occurs after death, and only for those who lived righteously after accepting Christ - it is impossible to be “saved” while still in this life, which is a false doctrine Christ directly states that you must endure to the end before salvation can be applied to your life - Matthew 24:13 We are saved by Christ's grace, but only after being judged by our works - Titus 3:5, Titus 1:16, Rev. 22:12-14 Perform the Lord’s statutes even until the end - Psalms 119:112 Worldly people despise Christ's true plan of salvation and dangerously invent their own - 1 Cor. 1:19-29 We save ourselves by pondering the doctrine and doing it - 1 Timothy 4:16
Don't judge your poor Mormon neighbors by this video, much of it is not true, or partially true with a lot of inflation. Mormons are on the whole very good people, and would make excellent neighbors
@@itsmejessie It's really not though, some is true, some is half true, some is just crazy talk... ;) It's clear by your information you don't have a good grasp of Mormonism at all.
I was Mormon for 18 years, i’m now 23. I never knew about a lot of the creepy shit that went on in the temple, only that my bishop had to approve me to go and that it was “sacred.” I’m just now seeing all these videos about the temple ceremonies and it reminded me of the time that they had me baptize dead people inside a fountain with statues of cows around it…. very scary as a child. I also never got to see any of my siblings get married because it was “sacred”. Creepy af.
@Dustin Hirschi Rams??? Really? You look at bulls and see sheep? Yea... Baptizing the dead was a real hard thing to do. Too bad you don't have the gift to see the dead. If you did, you would see them standing in line to watch the two people who are involved in their baptism. And to feel the joy that come from them finally able to start progressing. Yea... but because you can't... you need faith. It is probably better for you who never had a testimony of the Gospel to be involved in any way. Yet here you are on a anti-LDS site criticizing your families faith. How proud your parents must be.
@Distin Hirschi Jesus said “Except a man is born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Jesus himself got baptized and he received the Holy Ghost. His Apostles baptized believers and conferred the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. How about those who died without the gospel. Jesus’ words are clear: They cannot enter into the kingdom of God. How can they receive the gospel if they’re dead? 1 Peter 4:6 says, “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” But how can they be baptized? Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:29, “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?” Baptism for the dead in the Church is by revelation a vicarious ordinance of the gospel which is performed in the temples of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are now 168 such temples in operation, and more will continue to be constructed till the second coming of Jesus Christ.
@@MrNirom1 You're a wackjob. You're also spending your time on anti mormon videos and writing crazy comments. You're no better than I, though you and the weirdos in your religion think you are.
@@dustin7405 Oh I have been called worse than a wackjob by people like you. My comments are not crazy. Perhaps you would like to share with me what YOU consider to be a "crazy comment"? It is not that we are better than you... it is that we are better at understanding our faith than you are. You were of my faith but never got it. I wasn't born into this faith... but I got it. And when I explain it... you don't want to believe it so you call us names and tell us we are crazy. It must make you feel better when you can do that. You kind then feel like you know more than I do about my faith and my understanding of it. Of course I am on anti-mormon sites like this one defending my beliefs. I have been doing this since 2007 when I saw critics and ex members of the Church say "crazy" things about my faith that were NOT true. So instead of letting these people get away with it without someone bringing the lies to light... some people would believe what they have to say. As I have said many times and in different places. I have never spoken ill of my past faith and nor demeaned the people who still believe it. When I left that church... I also left it alone!
@@rbwinn3 As a person who was adopted by a Mormon family, and who "was" a Mormon for over 10 years, I can tell you that you are the flaming liar, and I would call you a liar in your face while DARING you to do something about it. Wanna try me?
@@rbwinn3 Oh, and here is a FACT. Joseph Smith WILL NEVER be a "God" to make planets to rule over. And neither will you since there is only one Creator and since there will ALWAYS only be one Creator. Deal with it, there's NOTHING you or anyone else can do to change this fact.
@@richardstorm4603 Well, what I plan to do is wait until I am resurrected and let Jesus Christ decide what I am going to do. You concerned Christians all think you are sent here to be judges of mankind. That comes from praying to a god without body, parts or passions. Satan does not have a body or parts. He does have a passion, which is hatred for the people who pray to him.
My mother is Mormon and she finally admitted that she believes in a different Christ because I showed her an article by one of their “profits”, Gordon B Hinkley, and he said that this was the case. Please pray for my mom... Thank you for your video :) Godbless
@@raymondellis1454 You should try believing in Christ Jesus, the God of the Bible as opposed to following a murderers doctrine. yep, that's right, you beloved Joseph Smith was a murderer as well. He has also helped lead countless millions to the Lake of Fire.
Monique Jefferies , when I asked someone about that, he was so excited to say that research has shown that it’s the altitude. I don’t think we are the only higher altitude communities. I wonder what depression rates are for other high altitude-communities.
Maybe it's possible that the rates are so high, if they are, because they are more proactive a people when it comes to health and addressing any health issues.
I did all that Mormon stuff including going on a mission… the day I walked off the plane from a mission…got a honorable release and never went back to church…The interesting thing… no one ever called… not even the bishop that just released me. I found out the most important thing, the truth…I was extremely expendable. Bottom line… LDS church is a business. I was played a fool and now I have found true spirituality.
@ Joe Cox. Oh come on Joe. There is much more to the story that what you are telling. I wonder why no one called? Not one person? No one! Wow Joe... this smells awful fishy to me. Honorable release and never went back to church. LOL Something stinks to high heaven.
I grew up in a small southern Utah town, and was one of 9 non members in a class of 48 kids. I received “extra credit” in high school from a teacher by agreeing to meet with the missionaries at her home. I showed up with all sorts of questions about these things you’re mentioning, and the things I didn’t agree with about the religion. The missionaries had not only ZERO answers for the questions I had, but they, as missionaries, hadn’t heard of 90% of these principles their precious religion had been built on. I transferred out of this teachers class shortly after she chewed me out for how badly I “embarrassed” her in front of the missionaries.
enlil7billion ok and you know everything about your religion? Please keep yourself humble. P.S. I don’t call BS, but since when has one person’s faults made an entire religion false? Even if you’re telling the truth, that’s hardly ammo against the Church. Maybe a nerf bullet.
enlil7billion maybe the questions you asked weren’t as basic as you thought. And again, since when has one person’s faults made an entire religion false? The missionaries not knowing how to answer your questions doesn’t make my church false. And who knows, maybe your question was confusing because we don’t believe there were two tribes that came to the new world. Maybe we do believe in the same event, but the way you phrased that I have no idea what event you’re talking about.
I'm very happy I left the LDS church. Left 3 months ago and have adapted to my new life after religion. I choose to live my life without any religious training now.
Well, I am happy you left the LDS church. I will pray that you seek out the truth of the Bible. Just because the Mormons distorted and corrupted it and twisted it's meanings to promote their cult does not mean that there isn't a true God. He loves you! And He is so real!!
I need help with prayer my wife won't leave the mormon church shes been there 7 years and I recently left few months ago I was there for 5 years but I never believed in there gospel or there book. I was going to be with her and my son but I dicided to leave because the holy spirit helped me to break out of there. I still have problems with my wife every day and she don't believe in the holybible or any Christian church she gets mad when I go to my church on Sunday and all week I try and read the bible daily. I'm sad because she wants to lead my kids to her false religion and don't want to listen to me. So please brothers and sister can you pray for my wife norma lindan. Thank you God bless you all.
Couple of observations: 1. I think some of your points here are circular. Even if some aspects of Mormon liturgy and symbolism can be found in Freemasonry, that doesn't logically preclude them also being inspired or authentically ancient -- especially if you're open to the idea of God being an active participant in human affairs, the existence of supernatural abilities, or divine revelation. 2. You cite the Masonic interpretations and uses of various symbols, rituals, and such. Why are they the authority? I think you quoted Manly P. Hall at some point. Why is his view the correct one, rather than that of the Mormons? In general, you seem to ascribe a lot of factual credibility to occultists. 3. The Satanic Bible came out in the mid 20th century. I don't see how it has any bearing on the Mormon texts. 4. "Oh Lord, my God" could be the beginning of the Masonic phrase. It could also not be. It's hard to prove. 5. The Mormons, from what I understand, do not consider every word a prophet speaks to be prophetic or inspired. Brigham Young did speculate about there being people on the sun, but he did not say so as a prophetic pronouncement. Bringing up non-prophetic statements doesn't do much to discredit the prophetic ones. 6. Not everything that happens in Utah is because of Mormonism. It could be that the higher rates of domestic violence is connected to Mormonism, but you haven't really proved that it is. 7. The idea that upside-down pentagrams represent evil is pretty recent, postdating the founding of Mormonism. Before Eliphas Levi (19th century), people didn't typically ascribe different meanings to the pentagram depending on whether it pointed up or down.
why should we ascribe occult meanings to the symbols? what meaning does the mormon church ascribe to the occult symbols. are they perfectly transparent in all their doings? no. what does the mormon church say the square and compass is symbolic of? what does mormon church say about the handshakes? are they secretive? yes they are secretive. for me it is not so much the use of symbols. we all use symbols everyday. the letter E is a symbol. all the letters are symbols. it's not the use of symbols. it the secret associations with those symbols. the masons assign secret associations to those symbols. masonry is thinly veiled baal worship. mormonism is thinly veiled masrony. am i wrong? have i accused unjustly? open up the books to the light of day. let's hear what the mormon church says the correct use of masonic symbols is.
@@longnamenocansayy I disagree that Mormonism is "thinly veiled Masonry". Inspired by Masonry? Sure, but most of Mormon theology and cosmology is not lifted from the Masons. If it's veiled Masonry, there's more veil than Masonry. Additionally, neither Mormonism nor Masonry have stayed the same since then. I don't think it can be assumed that everything in Mormonism that has a parallel in Masonry must carry the same significance for Mormons as they do for Masons.
The Word of Wisdom is what convinced me to look further into Mormons. The Word of Wisdom stated various dietary things that at the time nobody would have known for sure. Modern science has proven that those dietary rules will very likely lead to better health. During the time that was written, doctors didn't typically wash their hands between patients or after touching the dead and saw no real reason to. The Bible basically says to test a prophet, look at their fruits. If they are genuinely divinely inspired, the words they say that are divinely inspired should be able to stand the test of time, and the Word of Wisdom does indeed seem to have stood the test of time. I admit, I have yet to read everything the LDS church has put out, but that tidbit caught my eye and seems like a divinely inspired piece of wisdom in a time when such wisdom just didn't exist as humans hadn't even figured out they should probably wash their hands due to invisible to the eye microbes. Of course, the Jews have a practice of washing their hands that dates back to forever that is divinely inspired. Of course, now they mostly see it as a ritual, but back when it was first decreed, it was likely in an attempt to help the then primitive and ignorant humans not die so much.
@@NotSoCrazyNinja wow interesting. I hadn't thought of that! Here I was thinking "Hey the word of wisdom is, if nothing else, a great reason for my husband and I to quit smoking, drinking etc" 😂😅 I do miss chai lattes but at least my husband doesn't drink 5+ cups of coffee a day anymore lol I too haven't read every little thing about the LDS church but frankly I'm reading my Bible for the first time in years, I am a follower of Jesus again after renouncing religion years ago, and I pray with my family all the time. Seems like good steps to me. I've had so many blessings since I accepted Christ into my life again I barely know where to begin... Friendship, foster children, a new pregnancy, my significant and I finally marrying, a better relationship in general. Not in this order and the list goes on... I guess I could be negative and say we will see how long it lasts but it feels right. We have hardships still, obviously, but instead of worrying and stressing I just know it'll be okay. Christ will guide us. And if this church is wrong or bad or whatever then I'd venture to think He will show us that with time as well.
@@Carlie_flower Not even a year ago, I was pretty much in the atheist camp. Not quite though as I have never really given up on believing in a God due to my experiences. From my teenage years until somewhat recently, I pretty much shunned all religion. I had my reasons, but the main was that "the church just didn't feel right" (Baptist, Southern Baptist, Evangelical, etc, I went to many in my "research"). Somewhat recently, about a couple years ago, I felt moved to investigate the LDS church. I had always just lumped them in with other cults and crazies like most people do, but the deeper I dug, the more truths I found. Like with any religion, I don't agree with EVERYTHING they stand for, but so far, I have yet to find any "deal breakers". I don't consider myself a Mormon, but I have gotten back into reading my Bible and "letting God handle my worries" instead of trying to go it alone. I have so much more peace now and I'm actually making progress in life again. It's slow, but progress is progress. Just recently I found myself in a pretty serious financial situation due to an ex-roommate moving out and stiffing me on the final rent. I was nice and didn't demand a deposit from him when he moved in. When he left, he left owing about $400 and I later found out he took some of my stuff with him. I was facing having my electric shut off in a matter of weeks due to non-payment since I just didn't have the money. I broke down and asked God to "handle it" as I saw no way of making everything work out. Well, things worked out. Everything got paid on time, I didn't have to suffer in the process, and I had peace with the whole situation. Since then, I have asked God for help with my addictions to nicotine and caffeine. I have cut my nicotine use in half and cut my caffeine use by about 25% in only a few days. I might actually be able to quit the two in the near future, something that I thought was hopeless. All because I had a little faith in God and "let him handle it". Of course, I tell people that when you ask God for help, you have to listen too and act if you feel you should. Prayer alone doesn't typically work, you have to be receptive to answers on what to do to get yourself where you need to be and be willing to put in the work needed. My life has dramatically changed for the better since returning to God. I was foolish to turn my back on him.
I’m a recovering Mormon, and while most of what Jessie says is accurate, there were a few things that aren’t. The LDS Church is not a good organization and anyone who’s investigating it should do serious research into the church’s history & less often discussed practices before committing themselves to its bizarre practices, emotional pressures & misleading leadership/teachings.
Ba-humbug. Look into past history? Yes, mankind has come from a bad history...so what are you complaining about NOW? Just because you are afraid to commit to a religion you can say all kinds of bad things about any of them... So what. You have it so great already in your life that you don't need religion? Well, most people have found peace and salvation in their religions and so much more, thus not afraid of their vulnerability and imperfections, yet go to church and welcome their Christian community and compassionate hearts. It makes a difference in their lives, because they WANT to.
birdlynn hubbard what are you talking about? For someone who doesn’t know me you have a lot to say about what religion I choose to follow (or not follow). Does it make you feel better to make assumptions about those who have been able to recognize the absurdity that is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints? Mankind doesn’t come from “a bad history”, although there have been bad people & events. Joseph Smith was one of those bad people. As so many Mormons do you want to claim all of humanity descends from bad to lighten the glaring truth that Mormonism was born out of the mind of a narcissist with delusions of grandeur. I wish you luck with that.
birdlynn hubbard I should add that having grown up Catholic I have seen this story play out before. I believe that Christianity is an overall good for the world, churches and religious organizations that use their power & influence to undermine the constitution, hide their undesirable history & protect pedophiles should not be counted as truly Christian. Even though many of its members probably are Christian in their hearts & practices, being naive or turning a blind eye to corruption isn’t the Christian thing to do. When I learned about the church’s history it was only the icing on top of the cake. It’s what’s happening now that caused me to walk away from the LDS church, and I will fight against any organization that protects those who harm children.
@@damienjstepick It is in the world, Damien. Not just in the churches. (The Pediphiles) I too believe all religions have their place and do belong. But it is a very individual thing where one is called to or where one feels at home. Hopefully, the spirit will help them there because I do believe we are all called to gather together and to hear the word of God. As we are called, and that is what is free. It also can take away your loneliness wherefore people are reminded they are loved by God and community. That is a pretty important in my book. ;) It is so easy for people to criticize churches, or anything these days, but what do they NOT criticize anymore? I'd rather be in church or Mosque hearing the spirit of God and truth which enlightens me and heals me while walking through this world. If and whenever a church I hear criticize another, it is a turn off to me. Immediately. I find that offensive, therefore I go to where it is right for me. It can only be that way. Until people find that way for themselves too then they will feel something beautiful in church that resonates with their heart, mind, and spirit and it makes you want to return again and again and again. That is how church should be. Peace.
birdlynn hubbard I wasn’t the one who assumed to know someone I don’t. That was you. I am happy for anyone who finds peace and happiness, but any organization that claims to be the moral authority on earth while protecting pedophiles, undermining the constitution & harming its members through lies doesn’t deserve to be left alone because its active members enjoy it. Most Nazis enjoyed their way of life. I feel for those who haven’t woken up to the deception of the Mormon church, and I hope one day they find peace as part of a church that doesn’t act in a vile & deceptive manner. Just as members of any mosque should alert authorities to members who may want to commit terrorism in the name of God, so should Mormons who know about corruption within the church. I shared my feelings based on MY experiences. YOU threw stones. If you truly felt peaceful about being a member of the church I doubt you’d care what I think, I doubt you’d be watching this video and I doubt you’d have started by attacking & assuming if you did desire the chance to open up a dialogue.
Then you know nothing of the doctrine of the restored Gospel of Christ. The "cross" is everywhere in LDS theology, but Latter-day Saints understand it correctly whereas you do not.
@@rodinutah Then please explain to us how it is that a woman who does not have the opportunity to marry will not be able to enter the celestial kingdom. If the husband is an adulterer- what them becomes of the children that were sealed to their parents in the temple? Are they now no longer going to the celestial kingdom since their dad fell from grace and now they are no longer sealed to him? It seems like a family's salvation/making it to the celestial realm is dependent on a faulty man. If I am wrong here- please feel free to explain in a way we can all understand. Thanks in advance.
Well, my only answer to you is that Heavenly Father is a loving father. He will not deny any blessings to those who are worthy of them. A woman who has not had a chance to marry in this lifetime will be given that chance in the eternities. Children are innocent and will be also be blessed with those blessings they deserve. It will all be worked out in the end.
That is exactly what Satan wants you to believe. That there are many ways to Heaven. Jesus is the Way (only ONE way) the Truth (only ONE truth) and the Life (without Jesus your Spiritually Dead). Thru truth hurts 🤷🏻♀️
@@miamlatindiva You've spoken with Satan and he explained to you his agenda, I presume? Beware that you don't become a permanent resident of Naraka, it is a most unpleasant afterlife.
Satan is the Master of Deception he confuses everyone in the world to turn him away from following Jesus. Because everyone will reject Christ & the Anti-Christ will appear. There will be a 7 year Tribulation before God destroys the world. I am a Disciple of Jesus & my final destination is Heaven. I’m just trying my best under the power of Jesus who’s Spirit is inside me to spread the Gospel. Jesus died for you it’s a gift meaning you can’t earn the love of God.
@@miamlatindiva Which flavor of Christianity is this that you follow? Catholic? Baptist? Seventh Day Adventist? Latter Day Saint? The Church of Wells? "Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ." Ephesians 5:1-2 Jesus often spoke in parables; so I shall tell a parable: 'There was once a man of Christ named Josef who made a middling wage in the world he lived. A religious man in a white robe, blue of eyes, speaks to him and says, "I am a shepherd of Jesus flock, give me your tithe and together we shall build the church of Christ." Another man in white, but brown of eyes, speaks to him and says, "I am a shepherd of Jesus flock, give me your tithe and together we shall build the church of Christ." Another man, disheveled and in rags speaks to him and says, "I am hungry. Can you help me?" Josef thinks to himself for a moment, and wonders to himself, of these three... who is beggar, who is shepherd, and who is charlatan, for I honestly cannot tell the difference. He gave his tithe to the disheveled man, for it seemed, to him, the most Christ-like thing to do.'
She don’t know what she’s talking about. I’m an inactive member but I will never replace my knowledge of the gospel from the others. So whether you believe mormonism or not, you have no right to mock any religion. Especially if you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
Honey let me tell u shes correct. I was in this religion for 40 yrs. U need read up. What your told is "anti" is real history. I use to defend mormonism just like u until I read the facts. Journal of discourses is a good starting point. And it's joseph and Brigham own writings.
Hi Jessie, you are very informative. I grew up in a Reorgaized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints family home. ( Not Mormon but shared some main beliefs. ) I Believed our church was the only way to salvation and that every one else is going to hell and that the Catholic church was the church of the devil. I was a non active member for years because I kept silent. To make a long story short, at the age of 40 I came out of my bubble when I started asking questions and was not happy with the answers I received. I explored other Faiths. It says in the Bible that God wants us to question everything because in doing so we will find the truth. Wow has my journey of faith changed since coming out of the bubble. I have so many stories of how God has blessed me and those I love. All I need is my Bible. God's salivation is for everyone, not just a chosen few. There is good and bad in all religion........but I also believe more than anything what my Grandfather told me. He said salvation is not how many times you go to church......or what church you go to......it's how you live your life, how you treat your next door neighbor, our actions and the kind of person you are in your heart. God loves everyone. There is good and bad in everyone. I would also like to point out that in the Bible it says why satan was kicked out of heaven and who he is/was. The Bible are the only words I need. I pray you will be blessed in your search for the truth. You are definitely on the right track. Thanks for listening or reading my post. Peace Out.
My answer should not sound harsh to you as it is difficult to show how I really mean it by writing. I mean it with love. Sorry you´re wrong! You think your way is the same as for example the Christian way. But the way with Jesus Christ is unique. He is the way, the truth, the life and no one cometh to the father but through him. It´s about our sin before God. That made the gap between God and men. (the spiritual and also bodily dead).True repentence is what God wants and always wanted from us. He loves us but will judge correctly. As everybody is somehow guilty he would have to judge all of us. The wages of sin is death. This is also what you might have heared about heaven and hell. I know that in some famos east religions they talk rather of reincarnation and drop hell. But hell is real. So God in his love for us send his only begotten son that he would pay our wages. He suffered and died instead of us. When you truly repend and accept Jesus Christ as your savior and give your live to him in a serious prayer, you will be free of sin (wages of..) immediately and will receive his holy spirit which also means that you will be bornagain. A bornagain Christian. You would notice the difference. Please then (go on ) praying to Got in Jesus Name or to Jesus Christ and read the bible. It´s not about being rich and always of promised good health. It´s not about energies. It´s not about wishes to be fulfilled. Its not about meditating and hearing inner voices (I had my experiences... with "Angels", "Jesus" and others) Find out. It´s really serious. Please find out. There are also many false preachers. It´s not about (trying) to be good. It´s about accepting his salvation. But , as I am not native english speaking I don´t know many, but you may listen to Paul Washer, John Lennox, ...and of course going on reading the bible. Please excuse me if I misunderstood something. May God bless you.
Of course they won't tell someone all these things on an initial visit. They usually have about 10 minutes to introduce themselves. I can't imagine a salesman knocking on my door and saying, "Hi, I'm Dave. I wear secret underwear. Would you like to hear what I have to sell you?" This is the same reason we don't teach about mortgages or sex in kindergarten. Or why a university professor teachers things in a certain order. You start with the basics and add to it as the deeper information will be understood. Of course those blasted Mormons won't tell you any of this when they first knock on your door.
they aren't blasted, just highly indoctrinated kids, that if they don't fulfill their mission their WHOLE family doesn't get blessed. It is really a sucky thing but that is what they do. These SHELTERED kids are turned out into a very scary world and told they MUST convert people or their family's STANDING in the celestial kingdom suffers. They get guilted into ALL they do, and it is such a tragedy. The pressure on these KIDS is so enormous. If they bomb or don't complete their mission most of the eligible girls SHUN them as a bad candidate for marriage. They MUST marry, and reproduce to be a TBM, and in good standing with their ward.
@@savannahsmiles1797 Thank you for your post. Didn't know the kind of pressure the young missionaries are under. Have a great New Year. God Bless you, your friends and family.
I'm a former Mormon and I really appreciate what you are doing here! Lots of these things not even lifelong Mormons really know. It's insane. The only correction I'd make is that Mormons aren't polytheist but henotheists. Polytheists worship multiple gods while henotheists worship one god but believe in multiple gods.
Thank you so much for your comment! I'm so happy you are no longer Mormon. Are you a Christian now or mind if I ask what you believe? Regarding Polytheism: what about Heavenly Father, Jesus and the Holy Ghost being three separate gods? Would you say that Mormons don't worship them as separate gods? Did you only worship Heavenly Father as a LDS? What about Jesus?
It's Me Jessie I think this is where it gets tricky for actual Christians in understanding what Mormons believe around Christ. Because true Christians worship Christ but Mormons only really view him as their Messiah or Savior but not their God. The Heavenly Father of *this* Earth is their God and the only one they treat as such. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are instruments of God and aren't "deserving" of the same sort of treatment. Did I worship Jesus as a Mormon? Absolutely not. In fact, it was one of the big issues I started to have as I got older (I was raised Mormon). Mormons will point to "Jesus Christ" being in their name and they truly think that's sufficient. It's not. At all. They don't emphasis Jesus nearly as much as Christian churches do. They respect and revere their version of Christ but he is only a god to them no THE god. The funny thing is for them to push back on the idea that they are polytheist means they have to admit they don't worship Christ. And I know this will be unpopular but I went Catholic after leaving Mormonism. However, I am always so happy to see any former Mormon turn to Jesus and the Trinity. Catholics acknowledge the baptism of Protestants because Protestants are correct in their belief in God. As a former Mormon I had to be baptised into Catholicism because, well, I was never a Christian. I was never baptised in the name of our true Lord.
I want to clarify- like with most thing Mormons use familiar terms that mean something different to them. Many will likely tell you they worship Christ. My argument is that they don't. They don't pray to Christ, for example, only to God in Christ's name. The "worship" of Mormonism looks very different from the worship of those who believe in the Trinity.
@@margaretphillips1137 Yes, I understand the concept of what you said and that was my understanding as well. I think you adding the point that Mormons saying that they're not Polytheistic means they have to deny worship of the Mormon Christ was a major point. My Mormon friends do not agree with what you told me (or should I say, don't *admit* what you told me) about Jesus. They all tell me that he is absolutely a God and equal with Heavenly Father and that they worship him. I never know when my Mormon friends are actually being completely honest with me. Sometimes I believe that they are being honest because maybe they just don't have all the answers and don't fully know how to answer. But then other times I feel like I'm being deceived. When talking about doctrine, I get the answers like, "Yes, we absolutely believe that. The same as you do!" But I know what they're saying is false and that they don't believe that at all. *sigh* It's exhausting. Anyways.. I appreciate your explanation and the time you took to write. And had I left Mormonism and converted to a Christian denomination, I absolutely believe in getting baptized again for real. 🙂 ..Baptized into a Bible-believing faith. And though I disagree with Roman Catholicism, I don't doubt that there are Catholics who are truly born again and who have fully accepted the true Gospel message of the Bible and Biblical Salvation. I do disagree with all works-based religions as well as the mediators placed between God and man, such as priests and the Pope and all. The Gospel message of the New Testament is so clear that Jesus is our mediator with the Father and that we can go directly to Him in prayer and in relationship. And Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us that it's not by our works that we're saved but through our faith in Jesus, by the grace of God and as a free gift from Him.. not of works lest any man should boast. But anyway.. just sharing my beliefs. Glad you commented! I'm always looking for exMormons to join me on my channel to discuss things like this so if you're ever willing, shoot me an email. 😊 God bless! Itsmejessieo@outlook.com
No Other Gospel Galatians 1:8-9 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Archaeologists have yet to unearth any evidence supporting the claims of the Book of Mormon. In Ether 7:8-9, we read of steel and breakable windows (2:23) in Abraham’s time. Try to explain that to an archaeologist! Steel was not developed until about 3,000 years later. At the end of the Book of Mormon, Moroni tells about a great battle that took place on the Hill Cumorah. More than 200,000 people, armed to their teeth, were killed on that hill. The story tells about their weapons, breastplates, helmets, swords, etc. Nothing like that has ever been found on that hill or anywhere else on this continent. Metal helmets, swords, etc., do not just disappear in a mere 1,400 years.
Am exmormon. Almost all of this is true. I can't say all of it is true because there were things I didn't even know about, but theologically speaking make sense with the church gospel.
I love this video!! I was raised in the LDS “religion” and left just about four years ago. I wanted to leave my whole life but it was terrifying. It has been the biggest blessing to leave. Minus the hurt from family etc. Apparently I’m “humiliating”. Anyways... thank you for spreading truth. Most of these things I did not at all know which is so sick.
I think you are both missing the point here. Grace and faith are two different things. Grace is decided by Jesus and faith is decided by us and both are required to achieve the maximum outcome in an afterlife... So we come across an argument that I see so many times, but actually both sides of the argument miss the context of the point... Our faith cannot save us nor can our works if Jesus decides not to apply his grace... Grace is a decision based on how Jesus considers our situation.. Now to go with the Mormon point of view, Jesus grew in favour of God as he practiced doing his will, which means that as Jesus said as a warning "by there works you shall know them". If you believe his words you will follow the two parables as Jesus taught.. 1. Not to hide your light 2. To be a good Samaritan. Jesus also talks of what keeps you out of heaven, and it's not Based on false beliefs, false prophets etc, which were rife during Christ time. Rather than do what this post tries to do,bwhich destroys good faith in what are called "true believer Mormons", but is more on the fact in how well you live your life.... Can a Hindu be saved? Or a Muslim be saved? Even if they have no passing mention of Jesus between their ears? Grace applies here as Jesus will say, these lived their lives as good people etc, it won't matter of the false doctrine they were taught. If a Mormon keeps their values as the ancient Essenes did and serve man and woman in their best capacity according to their beliefs, god's grace is more lightly apply to these than professors of faith who like the Pharisees taught good things but their hearts were far away... I think both sides of the argument miss the point and neither understand grace or works...
Calibration Technique you have a very good point, which in retrospect is almost exactly what I believe but couldn’t articulate nearly as well as you, nor did I really try as I should have. Thank you for your perspective!
I'm an ex mormon and a lot of the contradictions, awful past evils of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are never taught. I didn't know that the star symbol was satanic until this video. You live in a bubble that brainwashes you and I stayed out of terror of going to hell if I left. I suffer from Scrupulous OCD (constant obessive thoughts that one wrong move will send you to hell) and the Mormon church completely messed me up to the point I wanted to commit suicide because I was going to hell anyway. Since leaving I still have the OCD but being a Christian is healing me not destroying me. God is merciful and is my Savior who will not push me to hell for being human. Leaving the church was the hardest and most freeing thing ever.
sometimes there is healing from intrusive thoughts. sometimes it's a poisonous plague in the brain that you can't get rid of. i had it for 60 years because of something in my childhood. for me it was just taking name of jesus and rebuking the evil spirits that had been tormenting for so many years. but not everyone has the same thing. a lady at work has terrible intrusive thoughts that drive her to thoughts of suicide. so i know it happens to a lot of people. i hope for sure you find peace of mind somehow. praise god.
@@jphish8724 In Genesis 2:8-14 tells us that there were 4 rivers ,Pishon,Gihon,Hiddek and the Euphrates river.So it gives us the general area of the garden of eden.Which would be somewhere in morden day Iraq.
@@bus2town I've heard that too, it's a theory by British archaeologist David Rohl, but is not considered academic, nor reliable, and is not widely accepted by serious Bible scholars. FYI, personally I believe the Garden of Eden to be somewhat more metaphorical; I do not ascribe to the LDS, or other traditional interpretations of this and many Bible stories.
I have called them many times on some of these subjects, especially about joseph smith. They simply deny them. They just say that my.information is incorrect and theirs is correct?
As someone who was adopted by a Mormon family at the age of 9, I can positively tell you that I was taught most of the stuff that she is talking about during Sunday school and also during 'Sacrament" (same thing as listening to your pastor but it's different speakers for the Mormon church). I'm so glad that my mom got out of this church and that she didn't push me to get out, too. If she would have pushed me, I would have not listened to her. Instead, she let me come to her to ask her why she left. She told me and showed me how she was fooled into believing in a pagan religion after she was raised a Baptist. Before I was adopted at age 9, I believed in Jesus Christ, but I really didn't understand Christianity. So, it was easy for me to get sucked into that pagan religion of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (BIG contradiction in that name). I've been out since 1993 after I joined the military and got stationed in Germany. Oh, and here is a FACT. Joseph Smith WILL NEVER be a "God" to make planets to rule over. And neither will you or anyone else since there is only one Creator and since there will ALWAYS only be one Creator. Deal with it, there's NOTHING you or anyone else can do to change this fact.
@richardstorm4603 In 1974 I joined the Army and was stationed in Germany until I got out in March of 1979. It was there that I went to Germany as a Catholic and left as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. One thing I learned was that the facts I thought were facts were not. I now know I have the correct facts. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord's Church upon this earth. It was created for the humans who would be sent to this planet right before the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ to prepare the people of this world for the changes that will be made for the millennium. What is the major sign to mankind that the 2nd coming will happen soon? Here is a revelation from Joseph Smith to the world: “I have asked of the Lord concerning His coming; and while asking the Lord, He gave a sign and said, ‘In the days of Noah I set a bow in the heavens as a sign and token that in any year that the bow should be seen the Lord would not come; but there should be seed time and harvest during that year: but whenever you see the bow withdrawn, it shall be a token that there shall be famine, pestilence, and great distress among the nations, and that the coming of the Messiah is not far distant.’” The bow has been seen this year. And remember this... it does not have to rain to see the rainbow. You can often see it when spraying water on the lawn on a sunny day. I find it funny that you can state a FACT yet because it is a future event you are proclaiming yourself to be a prophet and declaring that what Joseph Smith will or won't be. The only FACT your presented was that you "believe" Joseph Smith will never be a God. And it is amazing to me that you say "planets" to rule over, when I would say "Galaxy" to rule over. Ever notice when looking at Galaxies from the Hubble Telescope... that you can not see the center of any of them because the center of all of them is lit with a light so bright? In the center of each Galaxy is where the Glory of the God of that place shines forth. That is what I believe. So you thinking that any one who becomes like our Father in Heaven only rules over a few planets is just silly.
I don't care What mormonism teaches.. I am a hindu and so is my friend, one day two young men came to my friend's house and somehow influenced him to go to the mormon church and after that for solid 5 years my friend was badly brainwashed, he had weird beliefs, he always talked about zion and zionists, he said he'll have 5 children , he became EGOISTIC AND GREEDY, it was difficult to be around that man he'd refute everything I say, The church managed to brainwash him so badly that He became a Nasty man for 5 years straight.. THANK GOD he left the church and reverted to Hinduism... I HAVE SEEN HELL in those five years being with him.. Whatever mormonism is, NEVER BELIEVE THAT.
So your friend left one system of lies, gave himself to another system of lies, and then reverted back to a system of lies? That's neither a downgrade or promotion. The polytheistic, henotheistic teachings of Hinduism, like Mormonism, are built on the doctrines of demons. And the whole idea of reincarnation is false and absurd. The true way of salvation, God's way, is based on His saving grace. Every human/demonic system is based on works, including Hinduism.
@@sargonofakkad860 Kaney, let's keep this very simple... The soul is not reborn into another body (human or animal). Reincarnation is a foolish, ludicrous and absurd concept, yet another teaching int his fallen world that belongs on the dung heap of religious falsity. I speak graciously, but Hinduism is a false religion, plain and simple. Do you eat or worship a hamburger? Think about it.
This was disturbingly incorrect. Most points were flat out false and others were totally out of context. I would pray that everyone be truth seekers and not take these claims to be truth. Feel free to reach out to me for any fact checking or clarification. I will actually provide sources and context. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true and offers so much light and truth.
Can you please point out specifically what parts were false and out of context? I'm curious to know which part was not true. I have a general understanding and this video filled in most of the blanks. Can you point out which part specifically was not true so I can learn about it correctly? Thanks!
Hi George, I don’t have much time to do a full rebuttal of all of the claims here, but I’m happy to try to shed some light. Do you mind if I connect with you via email? The overarching claim of this video is that the missionaries of the church will lie or omit parts of the gospel, in essence tricking people into joining the church. Its just not true. I was a missionary for two years and serve now as a ward missionary in my community. I’m well versed in the doctrine of the church, as well as the church history. The church is very transparent about its doctrine and its history. See the Joseph Smith Papers project josephsmithpapers.org, Saints history.lds.org/saints?lang=eng&cid=rdb_v_saints_eng, church history topics history.lds.org/, gospel topic essays www.lds.org/topics/essays?lang=eng, and churchofjesuschrist.org which houses all teachings from the church. The church and its members are good, honest people and I would never omit or lie to prospective members. The way she paints the church and its members is totally out of character. “Your church is wrong. Your beliefs are an abomination to God. Your pastor is a hireling of Satan. Salvation is found only in our church. There is no way to achieve any form of salvation outside of the church.” This is not true. Especially the part about the pastor. Just not true. The church believes in an apostasy and restoration. www.lds.org/topics/apostasy?lang=eng#_ www.mormon.org/site/jesus-christs-church/jesus-church-restored “They will not tell you that they are wearing temple garments”. Not true: www.lds.org/media-library/video/2014-01-1460-sacred-temple-clothing?lang=eng ruclips.net/video/5vvN4qJRBM0/видео.html Although this is a sacred and personal practice, so it usually isn’t spoken of lightly and frequently. “Temple garments are meant to protect against evil…YOU”. Nope, not you. Nothing like that is remotely taught. As you will see in the videos above, garments are an outward reflection of an inward commitment to God. “They will not tell you about their temple rites at all.” Not true. See videos for example: ruclips.net/video/Fd8tVXN9y6Q/видео.html ruclips.net/video/gA6aTiMDYho/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RzCSrMJhWeQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/xSiwmYzSYTM/видео.html “Temple worship is taken from Freemasonry and Satanism cults.” Freemasonry was influential in the temple endowment. Satanism cults is completely false. Here is a great reference. www.lds.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng
“Familiar spirits are good and Book of Mormon has a familiar spirit.” I’m not even sure where this comes from. Members of the church believe in the Holy Ghost. www.lds.org/topics/holy-ghost?lang=eng “Mormon women find salvation only through their husbands.” This is just not true. www.lds.org/topics/women-in-the-church?lang=eng “Mormon women will be pregnant through all of eternity so they can populate planets.” Not true and not based in much of anything. This is designed by critics based on the idea that God intends for us to become like him. Creating and populating planets is as good as a description of heaven for members of the church as sitting on a cloud playing a harp is for other Christians. Its just not true. “They intend to become Gods themselves one day.” “Heavenly Father over their own planet”. Heavenly Father over their own planet is not true. Intend to become Gods one day is spun in a half truth way. We believe that we are heirs to God, joint heirs with Christ as the Bible teaches. Here is a great article that would certainly help: www.lds.org/topics/becoming-like-god?lang=eng “Exaltation is done through works and obeying the church.” Not true. We obey Christ’s commandments because of our love for him. By believing in Jesus and repenting of sins, we are saved by grace. All are saved by Christ in that every person will be resurrected and all are saved from Adam’s transgression. From the Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 10:24 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved. “They intend to have many wives in heaven, not just one.” No, I intend to have one. This claim comes from the polygamy practiced in the early church. You can read about that here: www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints?lang=eng “God is one of infinite Gods out there.” Paul said this in the New Testament, but also said “but for us there is one God.” That is our belief on this. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the one true God. “They are polytheists” Not the case. I highly recommend listening to this talk to get a better understanding. www.lds.org/general-conference/2007/10/the-only-true-god-and-jesus-christ-whom-he-hath-sent?lang=eng “They believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three completely different Gods” Half truth. The scriptures teach that they are one God, but separate beings. This should be logical to anyone who has read the Bible. See the talk above for this as well. “They will not tell you that you were once a spirit child of the pre-existence.” Of course we will! There is even a cool scroll graphic here: www.mormon.org/resources/plan-of-salvation “Heavenly Father and his multiple wives populated the spirit world.” This is again a half truth. We don’t believe God has multiple wives. We do believe that we are children of God as taught by Jesus and the prophets.
“Baptism for the dead.” “Three levels of heaven”. These are true. Here are some resources: Baptisms for the dead ruclips.net/video/RzCSrMJhWeQ/видео.html What happens after we die? ruclips.net/video/5-futI4wQ_s/видео.html “Virgin Mary was not a virgin at all. God came down and had sexual relations with her.” Not true. We believe as the scriptures say that she was a virgin. “They have taught that Jesus had three wives and children of his own. Jesus was a polygomist according to Mormons.” Not true. All we know of Jesus’ life on earth is recorded in the New Testament. “God is an exalted man and lives on a planet near the star Kolob”. Half truth. Joseph Smith believed God was an exalted man. Kolob is a metaphor in the scriptures for Christ. Kolob is described as the star being nearest to God and provides light to all of his creations. People spin it to sound weird and scare people away. “Jesus was Lucifer’s brother.” True. All spirits were children of God. “Heavenly council vote to determine Jesus or Lucifer as savior.” Not true. God presented his plan of salvation for his children. Lucifer and others rebelled against that plan and were cast out of heaven. “There are over 100 divisions within mormonism.” I don’t know about this. There are different break off groups, but there is only one Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and those groups are not affiliated. “They will not tell you that their scriptures contradict.” “Mormons will side with restoration scriptures over the Bible.” I don’t believe that the scriptures contradict, at least not in any significant way. The bible contradicts itself sometimes, but that is easily understood as it was written by different authors. It might be fair to say members of the church will side with the Book of Mormon over the Bible, but I think more accurately is that they will side with their interpretation of the Bible over someone else’s interpretation of the Bible. All Christians do this. “Not one scrap of archeological evidence for Book of Mormon.” Sort of. But what evidence would you expect? www.fairmormon.org/archive/publications/archaeological-evidence-and-the-book-of-mormon “State of Utah has higher than national average abuse, suicide, etc.” This appeals to emotion. Many scientific studies have concluded that this has nothing to do with the church, and actually church attendance significantly decreases all of these categories. “Joseph Smith was in the occult.” Just not true. “Joseph Smith money digging” True, but out of context. “Joseph Smith freemasonry” True, but out of context. I really enjoyed this book as a biography of Joseph Smith: www.amazon.com/dp/B000XUBEZM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 “First vision accounts.” True. But these aren’t any more contradicting than the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are contradicting. Different emphasis and details in each telling. www.lds.org/topics/first-vision-accounts?lang=eng
I recommend naming the source-where in their literature does it say Jesus was a polygamist ? Or is it just something they believe but nothing is written ? A lot of Mormons don’t even know this stuff
Jedediah M. Grant said: This ancient philosopher says they were both John's wives. Paul says, "Mine answer to them that do examine me is this:-.Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas." He, according to Celsus, had a numerous train of wives. The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were "Mormons." But if you pass on in their history to seek for uniformity and beauty, you will find some grand flare-ups among them. Look, for instance, at Paul and Peter, disputing and quarrelling with each other....
Orson Hyde remarked: I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children. All that I have to say in reply to that charge is this-they worship a Savior that is too pure and holy to fulfil the commands of his Father. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough "to fulfil all righteousness;" not only the righteous law of baptism, but the still more righteous and important law "to multiply and replenish the earth." Startle not at this! for even the Father himself honored that law by coming down to Mary, without a natural body, and begetting a son; and if Jesus begat children, he only "did that which he had seen his Father do."
Jedediah M. Grant, "UNIFORMITY," (7 August 1853) Journal of Discourses 1:346. Orson Hyde, "The Judgements of God on the United States--The Saints and the World," (18 March 1855) Journal of Discourses 2:210
If you ever attend a Mormon meeting, it's quite striking how little Jesus is ever mentioned at all. Jesus is almost an afterthought as they spend most time discussing the importance of the organization's growth, money, recruitment efforts, the legacy of Joseph Smith, the leadership, and lessons on how to be more obedient.
1. Joseph Smith was a documented convicted charlatan before he came up with the religion of Mormonism. 2. Joseph Smith fulfils every criteria of a false prophet in the bible, in that he introduced the doctrine of other authentic gods 3. Joseph Smith religious translation of the Egyptian scrolls has been proven to be a false translation by scholars. 4. Mormonism teaches that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus. The bible says Jesus is the creator of all things, and any everything that came into existence including Lucifer. 5. Mormonism claims an apostasy of the church took place therefore requiring a restoration. No proof of such an apostasy ever taking place has ever been presented as fact. 6. Joseph Smith c,aims of the South American’s having Jewish ancestry has been proven by modern day DNA testing which has found that Joseph Smith story to be false. 7. Joseph Smith married other men’s wives. In other words, Joseph Smith knowingly married women who were already married to other women. The bible calls this the sin of adultery. Joseph was an adulterer. 8. Mormonism has a deep history of racism disguised as spirituality. Mormon prophets claiming to be hearing from God prophesied that black people for ALL ETERNITY were never allowed to be part of the priesthood. However at the turn of the century, with civil rights taking centre stage and becoming a society issue, the Mormon prophets suddenly claimed a new revelation from God that black people were now allowed the priesthood. Did the Mormon God change the meaning of ‘all eternity’. The Mormon prophets were just false racist prophets. The list is endless and could go on... This man left the true Jesus Christ to follow a false idol of his heart. He has turned away from the truth to pursue Mormonism’s false Christ who cannot save him from his sins
*_Joseph Smith was a documented convicted charlatan before he came up with the religion of Mormonism._* No he wasn't. *_Joseph Smith fulfils every criteria of a false prophet in the bible, in that he introduced the doctrine of other authentic gods_* First, In Your Humble Opinion. Second there is nothing doctrinal about the THEORY of other gods. *_Joseph Smith religious translation of the Egyptian scrolls has been proven to be a false translation by scholars_* Sorry, again, wrong. *_Mormonism teaches that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus. The bible says Jesus is the creator of all things, and any everything that came into existence including Lucifer._* Which is worse: Jesus is the (spirit) brother of Lucifer (not SATAN), or that Jesus CREATED Satan, thus created evil? *_No proof of such an apostasy ever taking place has ever been presented as fact_* Can you give me scientific PROOF of the divinity of Christ Jesus? *_Joseph Smith c,aims of the South American’s having Jewish ancestry has been proven by modern day DNA testing which has found that Joseph Smith story to be false._* Wrong. There has never been any DNA testing where this is concerned. *_Joseph Smith married other men’s wives. In other words, Joseph Smith knowingly married women who were already married to other women. The bible calls this the sin of adultery._* *_Joseph was an adulterer._* A. if they were legally married, it can't be adultery. B. Were they MARRIED? They were SEALED, which might or might not involve legal marriage. C. DID he "sleep" with them? No evidence that he ever did. *_Mormonism has a deep history of racism disguised as spirituality_* In a time when racism was not only rampant, but accepted by most people, the LDS were rather progressive when it came to the races. Back then, most churches were racist. Why do you think that there are churches like the African Methodist Episcopal church? *_Mormon prophets claiming to be hearing from God prophesied that black people for ALL ETERNITY_* No, this is not true. *_at the turn of the century, with civil rights taking centre stage and becoming a society issue_* At the turn of WHAT century? The Civil Rights movement wasn't until the mid 1960's, and the revelation on the priesthood was in 1978. No wonder you can't get church history right! You don't even know American history!
❤ thank you for sharing and standing for TRUTH. I was raised mormon and now born again. I've got many loved ones and friends who are mormon and I feel God has called me to be a witness to them as well as wherever the Holy Ghost leads.
Truth is it’s a Masonic gang stalking cult that get their blessings from meth ghettos also run by masons They make mentally challenged people feel special then have them act stupid to normal people of society
I was in the church for 53 years and only became a Christian a little over 3 years ago. I When I questioned the cross they always told me we don’t celebrate it. That’s the only info they would say. I knew there was more behind because I felt deceived.
@tonyawhaley1781 If a family member dies in automobile crash... do you hang a picture on your wall of them dead in the crash? The world has enough pictures of Christ hanging on the cross that no one forgets how he died. And yet there are still many who will say that many many many men also died on the cross.... so Jesus wasn't the only one. The LDS choose to show pictures of How he Lived.
It’s not the same. Have you read the Bible the true Bible not the Mormon version? I suggest you visit different religions and make your decision based on that not what you grew up with. The Bible states there should be no idols except him. Morning idolize Joseph Smith not God. You should study the Bible more.
@@MrNirom1 that’s all in good but you aren’t getting his life story. I feel bad you all that only celebrate his. His life, his whole life setting is before he came, while he was here and his death. I bet you don’t have a clue of his last words on the cross. It is finished. I suggest you research his whole life.
@@tonyawhaley1781 Well Tonya I will tell you this. His last words are totally dependent upon which version you read. Right? Let's see... in Matthew he says that the last words of Jesus are: 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Then Matthew says: 50 ¶ Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. Now let us look and see what Mark has to say: 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? So Matthew and Mark say the same thing. Let us see what Luke has to say: 46 ¶ And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. And now for the last testimony of what his last words were... from John: 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. So there ya have it Tonya. 4 versions, 2 are the same... 2 are different. So let me now ask you. You said I bet you don’t have a clue of his last words on the cross. It is finished. Now you know that that might not have been the last words he said. We really don't know do we????? But I think you would like it to be.. It is finished but as you can see ... that was just one of four.
I live in "Mormon Central" and it kind of drive me nuts. So, having been stuck here for years, I've decided to check them out, see what's going on, and what they believe. They are the nicest, kindest group of people. They talk about the Lord, dress nice, are very family oriented, don't drink alcohol, do not curse, and so on. Their visitor center is centered around a large statue of Jesus Christ. The visitor's center is very pretty, and I really like going there because of the flowers. They are more Christian like than any church left in this area -- and we are loaded with churches. However, I am a Christian. I believe in being nice to them, being kind to them, but cannot get out of them most of these beliefs (in this video). They act Christian, and they claim that they believe the same that we do. There are many sects here, and keeping track of who believes what is almost impossible. For the most part, they seem harmless. I can't help but wonder how many of them know about these beliefs, or if they would believe the facts on this video if it was told to them. They would probably have to look them up -- and then what would they think? Would they think Mormonism is a lie, or that Christianity is a lie? They hate the name "Mormon" now and want to be called Christians. They claim that Christ is their center. But I believe Jesus Christ is at the bottom when it comes to holy authorities. I want to steer them away from Mormonism and towards Christ. Not sure how to do that at the moment, but I'm working on it by trying to understand them a little.
i am an ex mo and i am always so humbled by people like you who are willing to extend yourself to mormons. i don't see them as you do at all. i personally do not have the patience for them that you do. but that doesn't mean i don't feel their pain. for one thing, you can be sure they are putting on a big show for you, for other mormons and for themselves. google suicide rate in mormon utah, and google prescription drug abuse to get a good idea of what the mormons really are. happy homes? google abuse. how they can come home after singing love at home in church, and hate other people in their own family. believe me, i know what mormonism is. i was one. they are a desperately hurting people and they need jesus. we know without the regeneration of the holy spirit, men are left to their own devices. and there is no jesus in mormonism. so there you are in utah, and you can see mormonism with your own eyes. did you ever wonder how it got so strong? wiki danites/mormon assassins. in the days of brigham young they actually had assassins who would kill people who tried to leave. wash. d c sent general johnston to utah to make them stop all the murder and theft. well you can know for sure, that however bad they were to "gentiles" they were many times worse to their own people. there is a great exodus taking place behind the zion curtain. though you might think it's glacially slow, it's more than it was when i was a boy. so what do we do? plant seeds. that's all. plant seeds. don't expect to read a new book or find a new piece of crushing historical evidence. that won't happen. but if your heart is right and you plant seeds you'll be on the right path.
I'm happy to hear this. I went to a friend's house recently and ran into couple young kids probably in their late teens. They were going door to door spreading their word all I did was listen. They were really nice. We exchanged differences in our beliefs but I looked more into it after. Well to make it short I just don't see me being Mormon. I hope the best for them young kids.
The real issue is that you think you can learn these things through random sites, anyone can tell you anything about their experiences or what their taught even if it’s not true.
"The real issue is that you think you can learn these things through random sites, anyone can tell you anything about their experiences or what their taught even if it’s not true." The real issue could also be that honest people with honest experiences of being in the Mormon cult and being strong and fortunate enough to break free of their mind control and shaming techniques could be putting their experiences forward on these random sites and Mormon members are claiming their experiences are just isolated events or just untrue. I object to being called a liar.
There is a promise from the LDS leaders that if the you can prove that the Book of Mormon is false then everything in the church would be so. It’s the keystone of the Mormon church. With all the evidence coming out proving the content, names in the book, land marks in the book etc to be accurate, how was it that a kid was able to make all this up with little to no information of the holy land during his times without the Internet / google maps? All a matter of opinion. Anyone can twist anything being good or not to their advantage and make it sound disgusting or evil. A lot of what she mentions was so bad about the LDS church comes from the Bible. So I guess in her opinion the Bible is evil too and teaches false things Here is information on the star that are on the LDS temples “Satanists were using the inverted star before it was officially copyrighted, but the symbol’s early association with Satanism still only trails back to the mid-1800s to a man named Eliphas Levi who didn’t refer to the symbol in his published works until 1854. Joseph Smith died in 1844. Inverted pentagrams on Mormon temples were around well before the symbol became popularly associated with evil.” thirdhour.org/blog/faith/lds-temples/inverted-stars-mormon-temples/ Here is informations of archeology of the Book of Mormon. ruclips.net/video/5yjKSaegLJg/видео.html A lot of people give up researching in this “on demand world we live in”, giving up the search too fast to the first opinion we hear being it a positive or a negative opinion instead of going above and beyond and finding out for themselves if it’s right for them or not. If you dig through negative material your outcome will be as such and the same can be said for the exact opposite, look for the good and you will find it but to have knowledge one must study both sides and determine which one outweighs the other. There is more good than bad in the LDS faith but of course that is my opinion. Trust me it was way worse back in the times of the Bible to be a disciple of Christ than it is today and if you weren’t a ordained priest there was no way you had any part in the ordinances in those times. Women had no say on really anything in those times many of whom were considered slaves. Abraham had many wifes, does this mean Abraham was in false standing with god? Polygamy in the Bible? I feel like people always attack the early LDS church for this even tho it has happened all throughout the Old Testament. Here is the info. Knowledge is power. Abraham had a principal wife, Sarah (Genesis 11:29), and two secondary wives, Hagar and Keturah (Genesis 16:3; 25:1). Abraham’s first wife was Sarah. She alone would possess legal rights and social standing as Abraham’s wife, and only her child Isaac would become the rightful heir to the family inheritance. Sarah, who was unable to bear children, gave her Egyptian servant, Hagar, to Abraham as a concubine, although the Bible also calls Hagar Abraham’s wife (Genesis 16:1-4). A concubine was a woman, often a servant or slave, who lived with a man as if she were his wife, having sexual relations with him and bearing his children. When one’s wife was unable to produce an heir, taking a concubine was a common solution in ancient times. But a concubine held “secondary wife status,” lower than that of the primary wife. The concubine’s position, while subordinate to her master and mistress, was permanent. Concubines were provided for and protected as part of the family. I hope this helps someone look into more sources than just anti material floating around RUclips
@@Xexy2388 You missed the entire point of the biography of Abraham and Sarah. God does not condone polygamy. We are still seeing the consequences of Sarah not trusting God. She couldn't wait for Him to fulfill His promises so she decided to step in and orchestrate things herself with disastrous consequences. Just because the Bible records history as it happened, does not mean God says it's acceptable.
In 1921, Doctrines and Covenants removed, "Lectures on Faith". Why? The Lectures were published in 1835 as the Doctrine portion of The Doctrine and Covenants of the Church of the Latter Day Saints. The Lectures were suggested to be added to this version of the D&C by a committee appointed on September 24, 1834 by a general assembly of the church to arrange the doctrines and revelations of the church into a single volume. That committee consisted of Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, Sidney Rigdon, and Frederick G. Williams. The general body of the church accepted the committee's compilation on August 17, 1835 as "the doctrine and covenants of their faith, by a unanimous vote." So if Joseph Smith was on the committee approving it, and he's the end-all be-all prophet, why would the Docrines be removed and furthermore, without a committee vote or explanation why?
Thank you for making this video. I grew up Mormon, and it's interesting to me how much I didn't even know about the Mormon church when I was there (which I think is because they were giving me the 'Christian' version of the Mormon church) and I think anyone saying you're lying or sound angry in this video (which you don't sound angry at all in my opinion) were probably fed the same watered down Mormonism I was also taught. A couple things to add that you didn't mention in this video are as follows: The Book of Mormon also says that Jesus would be born in Jerusalem in Alma 7:10 if I remember right. (Though the Book of Mormon is the most famous and plagiarized fanfiction on earth so that is part of why there are parts that sound very similar to the Bible) In Joseph Smith's translation of Exodus 33: 20, he disproves his entire religion by saying that no man has ever or will ever see the face of God and live. And this was the bible verse that made my dad leave the only religion he'd ever had in his life at that point. The verse is God talking to Moses in the burning bush and telling Moses that no man has ever seen the face of God and lived. I had never seen a crucifix (or cross that someone was wearing) until I was in middle school when one of my older friends in the Mormon church told me that we don't focus on the sad and horrible injustice that happened to Jesus, we only focus on the happiness after. I had actually watched The Passion of the Christ when it came out on DVD and it meant nothing to me, I didn't know who Jesus was, or what the movie meant at all, which looking back on all of it now just breaks my heart, especially now that I'm Catholic (which by the way, for anyone who wants to talk badly about the Catholic church, that's fine they have done horrible things no one's denying that (I actually found myself loving the Catholic Church even more because the second the Diocese I'm with received any reports of a Priest I know molesting young boys, they immediately took action, excommunicated him, and have asked if anyone has any more evidence to come forward - the Mormon Church, on the other hand, is still trying to say they've never done anything wrong) but remember the history while you cry about the books in the bible - you wouldn't have your bible at all without the Catholic Church who put it together first and then it was translated into other languages by Martin Luther (but he couldn't have translated it if there wasn't already an existing bible). The word Catholic, derived from the Greek, means "universal." meaning no matter where you are in the world, if you have a Roman Catholic Missile and are attending mass, you will know what the readings are no matter where you are in the world and can read the readings in your own language (sounds a lot like that verse talking about every nation, race, people, and tongue in Revelations). Godan B. Hinkley said in General Conference that the Jesus Christ of the Mormon church is not the same as the Jesus Christ who saves from every sin that the Christians believe in. When you said there are about a hundred different sects of Mormonism, my very first thought was "That seems like a low estimate." Again, I wanted to say thank you for this video and for spreading the truth of what the Mormon church believes, not the lies they want the world to believe about themselves. I hope you never let the haters stop you from spreading the truth, because at the end of the day, it is the truth, and the truth can't be changed no matter how much they want it to.
@janessaburlingham2489 The Book of Mormon does NOT say that Jesus would be born in Jerusalem. Did you actually go and read Alma 7:10? Here, let me share it with you: 10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God. So... tell me... when you look at a map of Jerusalem... where is Bethlehem? From the center of Jerusalem to the center of Bethlehem it is 5.5 miles If you were to look at the time period in the Book of Mormon that was being written about in Alma... you will see that it has been about 530 years earlier that Lehi had arrived in this new land. These people 530 years later never saw Jerusalem or Bethlehem. When they say AT Jerusalem... they were quite accurate never having seen a map of the Holy Land. But they were told where they came from. The Jesus of the Christian world is a triune God. That means that they say the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are ONE God made of the same substance. That is NOT true. They are three distinct and individual beings. So Gordon B. Hinkley was right. Their understanding of Jesus is behind the times. They are trying to rectify the God of the Old Testament with the God of the New Testament. Before Jesus came to earth... the ONLY God they knew was called Jehovah. Then Jesus is born, grows up and he is telling people he is Jehovah. So if he is the God of the Old Testament... who is this God that is his Father? This was a problem for the Christians. They did not have any explanation but they now had more than ONE God. So 325 years after the death of Jesus... 326 of the Bishops got together and voted on the creation of who Jesus was in relationship to the Father. 2 of the Bishops did not agree and they were excommunicated from the Church. And what did they agree on?? That there is only ONE God... and they are all made of the same substance. The Christian world states: There is but one only living and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions. We do NOT believe the same way the Christian world does. We know more than they do. We have been given more light and knowledge. And yet... like in the time of Christ... people rejected the further light and knowledge that Jesus gave to the Jews.
As a former Mormon and now Christian I think you did an excellent job in this presentation. It was thorough and factual. It took me quite a while to discover piece by piece all that you brought out in this presentation. Excellent. Thanks.
@Leigh Yorgason Seriously? How longer were you LDS? 2 weeks? What piece did you find so convincing? LDS wear secret underwear? They state the truth that Bishops & Stake Presidents don't get paid for what they do? Please.. enlighten me what she told the truth about.
that's wonderful. I was born a mormon in 1975 but in 1978 at 3 years old. I became christian with the help of the sears catalog. the catalog had photos of adults wearing normal underwear and I knew my parents didn't wear normal underwear. I made a promise to never wear the underwear at that age. God put that in my path. Bless you
"They're not going to tell you anything to do with their church, anything to do with their doctrine, or anything to do with Mormonism and their lifestyle."
@@danreich1377 I was an LDS missionary. I know what was in "the Discussions". They may have changed significantly, but I doubt it. The Discussions DEFINITELY contained fundamental information about the church, its doctrine, and the Mormon "lifestyle" (there isn't polygamy anymore, so maybe she meant "the Word of Wisdom"?). Granted, there are some "deeper" doctrines that were only hinted at, but if you didn't have differences of opinion with Mormonism by the time you got baptized, you weren't listening or those missionaries weren't doing their duty.
T or F - - when Mormon Prophets banned blacks from the Priesthood.... were blacks then banned from Polygamy... and banned from Heaven aka Living with Heavenly Father ? Bonus points - how can you spot a Lamanite today ? is it skin color ?
@@byronofcalgary6985 1) I am not defending Mormonism. I am defending Truth. 2) If your expectation is that Mormon Missionaries would teach candidates for membership EVERYTHING EVER taught by a Mormon authority, that's a bit unrealistic, isn't it? 3) I do not deny that Mormon leadership may be trying to sweep outdated teachings under the rug in an effort to be more ecumenical. 4) My comment is absolutely true. Her claim is absolutely false. 5) You can find for sale copies of the Missionary Discussions and the Discussions for New Members. I also recommend the Missionary Pal by Keith Marston and Day of Defense by A. Melvin McDonald (which seems to have been turned into a movie?), though those two are unofficial examples of Mormon polemics. Clearly, I know more about Mormonism than she does. I would also recommend Hugh Nibley's series of lectures, "Time Vindicates the Prophets", found in book form as "The World and the Prophets". Now thank me for my time!
There is a promise from the LDS leaders that if the you can prove that the Book of Mormon is false then everything in the church would be so. It’s the keystone of the Mormon church. With all the evidence coming out proving the content, names in the book, land marks in the book etc to be accurate, how was it that a kid was able to make all this up with little to no information of the holy land during his times without the Internet / google maps? All a matter of opinion. Anyone can twist anything being good or not to their advantage and make it sound disgusting or evil. A lot of what she mentions was so bad about the LDS church comes from the Bible. So I guess in her opinion the Bible is evil too and teaches false things Here is information on the star that are on the LDS temples “Satanists were using the inverted star before it was officially copyrighted, but the symbol’s early association with Satanism still only trails back to the mid-1800s to a man named Eliphas Levi who didn’t refer to the symbol in his published works until 1854. Joseph Smith died in 1844. Inverted pentagrams on Mormon temples were around well before the symbol became popularly associated with evil.” thirdhour.org/blog/faith/lds-temples/inverted-stars-mormon-temples/ Here is informations of archeology of the Book of Mormon. ruclips.net/video/5yjKSaegLJg/видео.html A lot of people give up researching in this “on demand world we live in”, giving up the search too fast to the first opinion we hear being it a positive or a negative opinion instead of going above and beyond and finding out for themselves if it’s right for them or not. If you dig through negative material your outcome will be as such and the same can be said for the exact opposite, look for the good and you will find it but to have knowledge one must study both sides and determine which one outweighs the other. There is more good than bad in the LDS faith but of course that is my opinion. Trust me it was way worse back in the times of the Bible to be a disciple of Christ than it is today and if you weren’t a ordained priest there was no way you had any part in the ordinances in those times. Women had no say on really anything in those times many of whom were considered slaves. Abraham had many wifes, does this mean Abraham was in false standing with god? Polygamy in the Bible? I feel like people always attack the early LDS church for this even tho it has happened all throughout the Old Testament. Here is the info. Knowledge is power. Abraham had a principal wife, Sarah (Genesis 11:29), and two secondary wives, Hagar and Keturah (Genesis 16:3; 25:1). Abraham’s first wife was Sarah. She alone would possess legal rights and social standing as Abraham’s wife, and only her child Isaac would become the rightful heir to the family inheritance. Sarah, who was unable to bear children, gave her Egyptian servant, Hagar, to Abraham as a concubine, although the Bible also calls Hagar Abraham’s wife (Genesis 16:1-4). A concubine was a woman, often a servant or slave, who lived with a man as if she were his wife, having sexual relations with him and bearing his children. When one’s wife was unable to produce an heir, taking a concubine was a common solution in ancient times. But a concubine held “secondary wife status,” lower than that of the primary wife. The concubine’s position, while subordinate to her master and mistress, was permanent. Concubines were provided for and protected as part of the family. I hope this helps someone look into more sources than just anti material floating around RUclips
@@Xexy2388 "all the evidence proving the content"? What evidence? We can compare the Bible with ancient manuscripts when people say it was mistranslated you can compare and see no, no it isn't. Can I do that with a single book out of the bom? Can I see the plates? Ancient papyri?... What content has been proven? Where are all the remains of ancient civilizations? Btw the book of Mormon disagrees with LDS teaching. Moroni says one eternal God. But that's not true according to LDS theology. And regardless of when the pentagram became trademark of satanists why is it still on temples? Different Jesus, different God, different gospel. And that's fine just be honest about it. Well it's not fine but you can believe whatever you want.
We believe in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be the word of god and if you do more research into the Bible there are a lot of things that is missing or taken out of the Bible, also through time edited to meet the needs of the Catholic Church. Not sure where you are getting your information. This has been proven and isn’t something new, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t contain true information. You can look it up and if you need some help finding this information I’ll be glad to assist, this is why so many different sects of religions have come about due to the lack of interpretation and parts of the Bible that have been missing and or mistranslated. If that wasn’t the case why aren’t we all catholic? Aren’t they the ones that had the Bible for hundred of years? Fun fact the word “bible” means many books and isn’t just one book so I love how people say that there can’t be another book even tho prior to the Bible there were records from different prophets and apostles or in other words several books. Just because Satanism copyrighted a symbol that was once a symbol for good ( the star is just part of the story) One of the men who worked on the Nauvoo temple described some of the exterior symbolism, saying that “The order of architecture was unlike anything in existence; it was purely original, being a representation of the Church, the Bride, the Lamb’s wife. John the Revelator, in the 12 chapter [and] first verse of [the book of Revelation,] says, ‘And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.’ This is portrayed in the beautifully cut stone of this grand temple,” according to Fair Mormon. This woman “clothed with the sun” is symbolic of Christ’s church, according to JST Revelation 12:1,7. Reflecting this, symbols of the moon on the Nauvoo temple appear below the sun symbols, which in turn appear below these inverted star symbols (which are on top, symbolic of the crown). The morning star In an 1880 edition of Deseret Evening News it says, speaking of the Logan, Utah, temple, “Carved upon the keystone is a magnificent star, called the Star of the Morning.” This inverted “morning star” is located on the East side of the temple (the sun rises in the East), but what does the morning star represent?
I can also say the same about certain things in the Bible for example Show me the Ten Commandments plates (Art of the covenant) , show me evidence of all of the ancient scripts from the Bible, where are they now? Show me evidence of the flood in Noah’s time that’s in the Bible? Also funny enough for people who are so hung up on symbol we all know from the Bible that Satan appeared to Adam and Eve as a snake 🐍 but it’s funny that in the time of Mose, Moses staff turned into a snake which symbolize Christ and Moses snake eat the other snakes and was held up to the people in those times and all who looked upon the staff/ snake and saw the symbol of the snake stood for Christ. Funny that there are many ancient cultures that have the symbols of the snake in parts of central and southern americas that symbolized Christ. Many will be lead away by the precepts of men. Don’t believe in the first information you get on the internet or by a someone’s opinion on RUclips go find multiple information in multiple places get information and do the research. People are to quick on believing on the first source of information they get. For example people stumbled on anti material about the church before getting to know the church or the people and then believe that the church must be evil because that’s why I just read and heard instead of reading the Bom all the way through finding out all the information, positive or not and making a educated opinion rather than a quick opinion without knowing all the facts. Sad “on demand” world we live in.
@@Xexy2388 there is absolutely evidence of an ancient worldwide food even according to secular scientists. No we don't have the plates the commandments were written on. We do have the dead sea scrolls, and a massive amount of ancient Hebrew and Greek manuscripts confirming the new testament. There is physical archaeological evidence of the civilizations in the bible. There are maps and real places that can and have been confirmed to exist. There is none of this for bom with the sort of exception of the book of breathing's. Still, the book of Mormon is more Christian, again, than Mormon theology. It's still not all I've said that people have issue with. It's the fact that about the time of the civil rights movement God gave"revelation" to the church changing his mind about black men and the priesthood even though Brigham says they'd never hold priesthood. LDS theology flat out opposes what the Bible says about God. So the argument about don't just hear the first thing you say doesn't really work, at least not with me. I would invite YOU to not just let the church do your thinking for you. If it's true, don't be afraid to research. Know what I mean? Also, feelings don't equate to Truth. "Father, thy Word is Truth." Search things out for yourself, and don't settle with vague, tired arguments. God loves you and wants you to know the Truth
joe morris actually, Joseph Smith did own garments at the time of his death. The morning of his martyrdom, he received revelation that he shouldn’t put them on because he was going to die that day. In addition to a reminder of our promises to God, garments are a protection. Not against nonmembers, that’s silly. But I know someone who got into a car crash a few months back. Suffice it to say that he should have died. But he didn’t have a single scratch anywhere that his garments were covering. I’ve heard of so many miracles like that, that it’s hard to believe we’re just being fed lies by our leaders. I know that my church is the true church of God and nobody can take that away from me. I know this was a really long answer to a really simple misunderstanding but I want all the good-intentioned people that are trying to make me lose faith to know that their slander isn’t going to work on me.
I joined the lds church in 2005, since I've suffered some of the worst events of my life, I know the truth now, I won't be able to withdraw from them officially because they did enough damage but Jesus is with me, thx for sharing ❤️
They will never remove me from the books or excommunicate me. I have asked and tried... I just am nice to them when they come around... that way they don't want a blood atonement anymore.
@@office801 Yes, you can just stop going, but as long you are on their rolls you will not be free, spiritually or physically. When you join the LDS church you have OBEY what ever the Bishop says and God help you if you don’t. It started out wonderfully warm and fuzzy and turned into my worst nightmare on many levels. Spiritual, physical, financial, health and put me in a situation of nearly being murdered by a psychotic serial killer. I am not exaggerating. The last straw was when I was told that I still owned and was emotionally attached to too many nice things from my past and I must sell them and now live a sparse life including getting rid of my pets and I could not put in a vegetable garden and small chicken coop on my property that I own free and clear. If I didn’t obey the bishop who was a lawyer by day, with regards to this demand, he would have me committed to an institution for elderly destitute people. I am a well educated widow of 62 who has all my mental faculties about me. That was when I demanded to be removed from the church roles. If I actually accomplish getting my name off the rolls then when I die, my spirit will be sent to “Outer Darkness “(Mormon version of hell) where I will never see my husband or family again. And in this life time I will be considered an apostate and must be shunned by other Mormons. So basically a clerk in Salt Lake City can, with a few key strokes undo what Jesus Christ did for me on the cross. I don’t think so!
Same here, but be very careful. I have been where you are and I am telling you that it can and will get worse if you accept their help, the strings attached to that help will tie you up and bind you in every way. There’s other places to get help that don’t come with strings. The food pantries at real churches may not compare to the storehouse, but you will find that freedom is a very good taste. I promise you.
Infinite pregnancies...That's a kind of hell I would not wish on my worst enemy...The magic undergarments part had me in stitches, that's some grade a Scientology bull level.
Actually it's a personal choice left to the couple. Some people just "leave it to God" and have no qualms about not using protection. It's in handbooks that a couple should only have the kids they can afford and care for
@@HosCreates if the "let the children come" slogan would never have come from an LDS prophet then it would not be in the handbook to begin with. Surely you remember the "let the children come" speech?
"Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" is the one command from God that mankind has had no problem obeying. At almost 8 billion, I think the mission is pretty well accomplished. Catholics don't see this, however. And of course it's different with Mormons because they believe you have to populate a whole new earth with your progeny in the next life.
When you take all the facts an stand back it's obvious, here was a man who saw an opportunity to manipulate those around him and give himself the green light to have any woman he wanted, have anyone killed he wanted (blood atonement) get whatever he wanted at any time in the name of god, and all the while be showered with praise and admiration. A master of manipulation through guilt, fear, an control.
First, I am no longer LDS (by choice). But 2 mins into your video and I'm already losing track of the inaccuracies. You seem like a nice person but you are damaging your own credibility by sharing half truths and flat out incorrect information. Mormonism is no better or worse than any other denomination. If you disagree on doctrine fine. Present a substantive argument in opposition. But simply being divisive isn't going to help your case. Especially when those investigating the LDS Church learn about, what will appear to them, to be deceptive tactics on your part.
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html Not sure why you feel as though I've said anything inaccurate.. specifically in the first 2 mins. But I backed up this entire video with LDS sources. It's all true.
I would say that it makes sense that Mormonism is so closely related with Christianity and on the surface can look similar until you dig a bit deeper. "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:14.
How deep should I dig? Because I've been digging now for over 40 years, and the more I dig the more I know that I am right where God wants me. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.
@@lindalds I would ask how you came to that conclusion. I am genuinely interested to know what your journey has been. That is all I will say now because the RUclips comment section can be a whack place sometimes. I hope you have a good day.
@@amyrietveld3017 when I was growing up, we went to church EVERY Sunday. We belonged to a United Methodist church, but as a teenager, I would attend churches of my friends occasionally. I started reading the Bible about then. But it seemed to me that what was taught didn't seem to match up with what I read in the Bible. I would sit in church and figure out in my head the things that the truly Biblical church would believe. After I moved out on my own at age 21, I started thinking about churches I had never been to, and even other religions. Then I ran into an old friend, who I was told had become a Mormon. When I saw her I asked her about it and she invited to a young adult singles family home evening at the Institute of Religion. So I went and they introduced me to the missionaries. I started taking the "discussions" and within the first few minutes, I knew I had found the most Biblical church. I had no problem accepting the Book of Mormon or Joseph Smith or living prophets. Yes, I had some questions, but got entirely sensible answers that I had no problem accepting. That was over 40 years ago, and even though we did go through some short periods of inactivity (not my choice), my testimony never wavered. I hope this helps. Ask me anything.
@@lindalds Thank you for sharing. Can you give me examples on how the LDS church is the most Biblical? I am curious as to what you mean when you say that.
I was once visited by two fine young missionaries. I was invited to join the church. I asked them for help in suderstanding the Book of Mormon. I asked, "Do I understand that the Book of Mormon is the latest information from God for the human rase?" "Yes." I asked them to help me understand Mosiah 13:16-19. "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy... The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." They had no answer for me. I asked them why they did not follow the "latest" information from God for the human race. Answer, "We would get in trouble if we did that." I told them that my church followed that commandment, how could I join a church that only followed 9 out of 10 commandments. I prayed for them.
This is so sad to watch. I feel sorry that you feel the need to attack the LDS church. I am a proud and deeply converted member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. LDS general conference is coming up next weekend! I hope that many of you will take the time to watch it and see what the Church really is about.
hey, I was the same way about 2 years ago, then I took a step back an analyzed things. Sure, the church teaches generally good things that will make you happy, but ultimately it can not be true (or highly unlikely anyway) as the claim of it can not be verified. For this, consider a simple experiment. Since 2 people from two different religions can pray about something and both feel a confirmation of their beliefs, while it is not possible for them both to be correct, then we must conclude faith is not a good measure of truth. Since faith is really the only way to justify belief in a religion, that means, believing in the church (or any church for this matter) is an act that can not be justified, thus since it can not ever be shown to be a justifiable action, it makes no sense to believe in one. This is a hard pill to swallow but is ultimately the logical conclusion.
I was born into the Mormon Church....coming from pioneer stock. They don't tell us a lot of this stuff either. The Church whitewashes EVERYTHING! Thanks for all you are doing!
"I was born into the Mormon Church....coming from pioneer stock. They don't tell us a lot of this stuff either. The Church whitewashes EVERYTHING! Thanks for all you are doing!" Thank you for coming forward. I - along with many others really appreciate coming out of the LDS church must have been really difficult, but so rewarding. My own story would make ears curl.
WHY SO MANY TEXTUAL CHANGES IN THE BOOK OF MORMON ??? These are changes which ALTER the MEANING of the scriptures; these are NOT spelling or grammatical corrections, but TEXTUAL changes; there are many hundreds of them, refer: ruclips.net/video/si0sl6Vvd1k/видео.html carm.org/changes-to-book-of-mormon mit.irr.org/changes-latter-day-scripture ruclips.net/video/si0sl6Vvd1k/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ZVeU03R025I/видео.html www.mormonhandbook.com/home/5000-changes-to-the-book-of-mormon.html AND www.fairmormon.org/answers/Question:_Why_were_textual_changes_made_to_the_Book_of_Mormon_over_the_years_after_it_was_first_published%3F Here are a few actual EXAMPLES of textual changes: Doctrinal Changes ~ GODHEAD ~ Changes were made to the Book of Mormon after Joseph Smith changed his doctrine from Monotheism to Polytheism......... 1830 original edition 1 Nephi 11:18 And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin which thou seest is the mother of God after the manner of the flesh. >>>1837 and subsequent editions And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh. 1830 original edition 1 Nephi 11:21 And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father. >>>1837 and subsequent editions And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father! 1830 original edition 1 Nephi 11:32 And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people, yea, the everlasting God was judged of the world. >>>1837 and subsequent editions And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Son of the everlasting God was judged of the world. 1830 original edition 1 Nephi 13:40 ...that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world... >>>1837 and subsequent editions ...that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father, and the Savior of the world... RACISM ~ The church made changes to the Book of Mormon to soften its racism: 1830 original edition 2 Nephi 30:6 And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people. >>>1981 edition And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a pure and a delightsome people. CHANGES TO CHAPTER HEADINGS: : 1981 edition 2 Nephi, ch. 5 The Nephites separate themselves from the Lamanites, keep the law of Moses, and build a temple-Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness, and become a scourge unto the Nephites. >>>2010 online edition The Nephites separate themselves from the Lamanites, keep the law of Moses, and build a temple-Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness cut off from the presence of the Lord, are cursed, and become a scourge unto the Nephites. 1981 edition Mormon, ch. 5 Mormon again leads the Nephite armies in battles of blood and carnage-The Book of Mormon shall come forth to convince all Israel that Jesus is the Christ-The Lamanites shall be a dark, filthy, and loathsome people-They shall receive the gospel from the Gentiles in the latter days. >>>2010 online edition Mormon again leads the Nephite armies in battles of blood and carnage-The Book of Mormon will come forth to convince all Israel that Jesus is the Christ-The Lamanites shall be a dark, filthy, and loathsome people Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites will be scattered, and the Spirit will cease to strive with them-They will receive the gospel from the Gentiles in the latter days. ALTERABLE DECREES ~ The evolving doctrines of the church necessitated editing, for a period, the Book of Mormon's teaching that God's decrees are unalterable. 1830 original edition Alma 29:4 I ought not to harrow up in my desires the firm decree of a just God, for I know that he granteth unto men according to their desire, whether it be unto death or unto life; yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable, according to their wills, whether they be unto salvation or unto destruction. >>>1837 edition until 1981 I ought not to harrow up in my desires the firm decree of a just God, for I know that he granteth unto men according to their desire, whether it be unto death or unto life; yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, according to their wills, whether they be unto salvation or unto destruction. NOTE: LDS leaders RE-inserted the omitted words (yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable) into all editions since 1981. It is possible Joseph Smith deleted this portion of the verse because it conflicted with a revelation he claimed to receive in 1831 found in Doctrine & Covenants 56:4,5 "Wherefore I, the Lord, command and revoke, as it seemeth me good; and all of this upon the heads of the rebellious, saith the Lord. Wherefore, I revoke the commandment which was given unto my servants …" The eight words were later re-inserted into the text of Alma 29:4 and are present there today. These are just a few examples of the hundreds of TEXTUAL changes in the Book of Mormon; changes which ALTER the meaning of the scriptures. They cannot be denied --- they are a matter of FACT, of record, of history. I own a copy of the original 1830 printing, and a later edition, just to satisfy myself personally. The changes are deeply shameful, and make a laughing stock of Joseph Smith's original claim "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on the earth." (History of the Church, Vol. 4, Page 461) #
I still have the many different translations of the Bible I have in English. They do vary. The Jews have a version of the Old Testament that differs from the one the New Testament always quoted, and when we find New Testament texts the Greek varies from one book of the Bible to the next. Some current Bibles are based on comparing the texts that continue to be found and try to correspond to the earliest texts found.
I teach many LDS children and I really wish these parents would stop naming their boys Brigham. I wish they would change the name of BYU but I highly doubt that will happen.
As a new convert to the church, I would like to say that I was told many of the things that you identified in the first third of the video before my baptism by members of the church. Specifically having to do with the after life. These things are not a secret. There are a few things that you claim are doctrines that actually are not considered doctrine. The Bible, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price are the scriptural books of the church. Not Journal of Discourses. That means the Adam God theory and the theory that God the Father impregnated Mary through physical intercourse are false. I can understand that you might have a personal distaste for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but please be sure to fact check before you upload. Have a blessed day.
I fully sourced this video out with Latter Day Saint sources: ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html And you are mistaken in your claim that the virgin birth denial is not official accepted teachings. It's been taught in tons of official church curriculum, has been said in First Presidency Statements, official teachings. For example, Ezra Taft Benson taught it very clearly in Come Unto Christ, pg. 4, "Five Marks of the Divinity of Jesus Christ", Ensign, Dec. 2001, 8. and also The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, pg. 7. Joseph Fielding Smith taught it in MANY official places including Doctrines of Salvation 1:18. Oh man, I have literal pages upon pages of sources for every single point. You should definitely find all of this out for yourself before claiming you have all the answers. Mormonism is an endless maze of hidden teachings and "accepted doctrine." Hope you search for yourself! The true God of the Bible loves you very much. I pray you seek and find Him!
I do not believe I ever once claimed to have all of the answers. We are all living and learning, no one individual will ever know everything that there is to know on this mortal plane: it just is not possible. Please do not put words in my mouth. I also do not appreciate your condescending tone. I between work and school, I dedicate all remaining time to the study of theology - of both church doctrine and of other faiths because I find theology as a field to be fascinating. I did not take lessons with the missionaries until I'd studied everything out and learned what was true and what wasn't for myself. My beliefs and religious practices in no way restrict you and your personal freedoms, so I do not understand why you are so concerned with tearing down other people's faith to make yourself feel better. No good comes from that. Faith is a personal choice and I support everyone's freedom to find out what they believe and to practice their faith however they see fit as long as their faith doesn't encroach upon the freedoms of anyone else.
@@rachelkennedy6097 I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. Sorry if that was implied. I just meant that before stating that something isn't true, you should search it out, that's all. I'm not trying to be condescending at all. Sometimes with written text, we read things in a tone they're not written. I'm writing this calmly and kindly. I have no desire to be rude to you! The reason I have this channel and speak out against Mormonism is that my Bible teaches of a real and literal Hell and says that whoever is not saved, Biblically, by placing their faith and trust in the one and only true Jesus Christ for the Salvation of their souls, will be eternally tormented in the Lake of Fire where there will be weaping and gnashing of teeth. Mormonism contradicts the Bible completely and preaches a totally different gospel. Because I know this, I am concerned for the souls of the Latter Day Saint people. I have around 30 videos so far on my channel and they discuss the beliefs of the LDS and I give sources for every single point I make. I read from Mormon Scripture, direct quotes and teachings from prophets and apostles and lots from the official website, lds.org. As a Christian, all that matters is sharing the true Gospel and telling people how they can have a real relationship with God and have eternal security through Biblical Salvation. I refuse to "leave people alone" who I believe wholeheartedly are in a false belief system. I want Mormons to truly get saved and to know Christ. That's my mission. I want that for you too! I'm not being condescending. I'm being honest. I will be praying for you as you continue to study and seek truth. I mean that. And we are not enemies. I'd love to talk to you more if you ever feel inclined. I want you to be saved and hopeful and joy filled. 💕
@@itsmejessie Heavenly Father, as I personally know Him, is kind and loving. He knows that not all will understand or be able come to the truth in a world full of confusion and deceit. As I see it, the most important part of any faith is a person's honest intention to follow truth, seeing as whenever they are actually confronted with it if they are set on following truth, they will recognize it and follow it. Coming to know Christ is the best thing that ever happened to me. Through His grace, and Heavenly Father's plan, I am conquering things that have plagued me for a majority of my life and finding peace within myself for the first time. I know this gospel to be true, and I understand that your belief system has you fearful for us. That being said, I do appreciate both your apology and your concern. If it any point you'd ever like to talk more in-depth, you're more than welcome to reach out to me.
Rachel, listen to some of the testimonies on the ex mormon files .com..... Joseph Smith added and subjected from Gods Holy Bible. He was a false prophet who twisted the whole gospel. The Jesus of Mormonism is a false one. The angel who came to him in the cave was a demon disguised as an angel of light. GALATIONS 1:8. Pls leave this cult.
I have lived in Utah my whole life and was raised LDS and I didn't even know some of these things. I left the church before I was allowed to get my endowments and "go through the temple" as they say.. but I did perform baptisms and confirmations for the dead. And the one thing I can say from the experiences that I've had is the church seems very forced, contradictive and extremely repetitive. Almost every time I would ask about researching into the church my "leaders" would tell me to do it in a church building and discouraged me from doing my own research at home. I just don't know how current members don't see the red flags or the similarities between the LDS church and other cults.
@ waldorf minion... Hmmm have questions about the church... don't ask the church members... ask NON members. Why? because they will tell you the truth? How did that work out for the people when the church first started? Let's go talk to people who were ex-communicated or left the church... or those who are critical of everything about the church... yea... they are the one that have the truth... right? The members are just all liars, and deceitful people. And because you never received your endowments... you expected to be told everything you don't need to know? You were apparently never ready to receive your endowments and yet you wanted to be treated more than everyone else was? I don't know waldorf... seems as if someone wasn't really interested in the Lord's Church and what it had to offer.
You must have really took offense to something someone said. Going out of your way to bash a religion. You have fulfilled prophecies in the scriptures, lol
I was recently asked come to their church under the guise of Christianity. I had no idea they were Mormons until I got there. Soon as they talked about going to temple, gold plates and Joseph smith. I was totally confused because I know true Christians do not believe in that. Then one of their missionaries was talking to me and opened their bible and at the bottom it said Mormon. That’s when I was even more puzzled because I had no idea about Mormonism. Literally recently I am learning about it and another missionary asked me what my religious background is, in front of their followers. When I said I was raised in Islam but I don’t agree with the religion. That’s when one of their followers told me it’s all the same and most religions come from the Middle East have similar beliefs. So later through text I asked their missionary if they practice polygamy, which I am totally against and one of the reasons I don’t subscribe to Islam, the missionary told me they used to do it under the directions from God. So I have been telling them I’m busy and don’t have time to come over for “bible” study. Honestly I’m kind of afraid to offend them so I’m trying to respectfully decline their offer to “save my soul.” Thank you for exposing who they are because I almost fell into that cult but luckily I always do my research before committing to anything. 😅 you’re right they definitely lie about a lot of things until you catch them in their lies.
Get away from all organized religion. Nature is what we should worship. I was born into a Muslim family but we were never super devout. My older sister is now a Christian. I don’t believe in either. I pray to higher power and Mother Nature.
@@Gangsterkitty401meow good to know I’m not alone. Same here I feel like ancient spiritual ways are more effective but all organized religions look down on them and demonize the old ways yet many religions have holidays that are pagan holidays and they have changed the rituals. I know relatives who do black magic and have good results but then they pray for forgiveness from Allah. Which is an oxymoron if you ask me.
Jess, great video. Can you give me a call? I've got a couple of questions I want to run by you. It's about the fact that the upper echelons of the church (the "70" and above) MUST know the truth about Joseph Smith and therefore must be rationalizing, or flatly lying, about this whole religion. And I have a couple of more questions. I'm in San Diego, so if you could call me between 12 noon and 5p PST, that would be best. The call won't be long but I want to get your thoughts on some things. Oh, by the way, YOU are an absolute delight. Tim
And the Mormon Church are jerks. Calling me a killer for being gay. Working concrete is kind of hard no lunch and no restroom break I had to pee in a bush somewhere. They wouldn't talk to me. But they were really nice to the other workers with lunch food and drinks, and restroom breaks. I'm transgender they hated me for it. HRT hormone therapy. I want to destroy their fucking stupid-ass Church. I want revenge
@@mishaladara I am so sorry you had to go through that. I am a member of the church, the way you were treated is absolutely awful. Your feelings for the church are completely understandable. And again I am so sorry this happened ( this is not me trying to change your mind about the church, I am just apology for what happened )
She is preaching false doctrine in this video. Some of these points like the “garments” are half correct but they are not to proctect you from “non-Mormons” wherever she found this source is completely wrong.
@@mysterymatrix8527 The very foundation of what the LDS deception preaches is pagan. It's immaterial to me why they wear 'Sacred/secret garments and think they'll enter Heaven with Masianic hand gestures. It's a pagan cult teaching a false doctrine, claiming the Bible is corrupted, all while claiming Christ.
@@lindalds And this is the problem with Joseph's theology. The Bible is complete, perfect, and infallible! To say otherwise is to call Jesus, His true Prophets, Revelators and Seres liars. Jesus never visited the America's! My people are not Native Americans! Smith's narratives have never existed! Sadly, you have chosen to believe a false gospel; a pagan gospel. I pray that you continue to pursue the truth. You'll find it in Jessie's videos.
Sooo... do you simply ignore the seer stones in the Old Testament and what happened with another prophet that restored the truth to a people who had fallen into idol worship - namely Moses with the stone tablets that had the 10 commandments written on them? The seer stones Joseph Smith claimed he used were called an Urim and Thummim. These were two stones in silver bows-and these stones, fastened to a breastplate; and the possession and use of these stones were what constituted “seers” in ancient or former times; and that God had prepared them for the purpose of translating the book. References to prophets using similar devices (I’m sure there isn’t just one set of seer stones in the whole world) in the Old Testament include... Exodus 28:30; Leviticus 8:8; Numbers 27:21; Deuteronomy 33:8; 1 Samuel 28:6; Ezra 2:63; and Nehemiah 7:65.
Hey All! Jessie here. I just filmed the PART TWO to this video and it is fully sourced with LDS documents. Please go check it out! (Especially those of you who have questioned the validity of the points made in this video.) Here's the link:
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
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Hey Jessie, got any sources for this video? I was wondering because in the first minute and a half, that you said about a half dozen claims with no factual backup behind them. Where are the sources for this video, I would love to help clear up any confusion that you may have.You made all of these claims, but I have no idea where they are coming from.
@@gingerbrettman5665 You just replied to the comment with the direct link to the video where it is all sourced! I did a part 2 to this video that was published today and every single point is sourced out with LDS sources.
@@gingerbrettman5665 Sources are here:
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
You realize you don't have to justify your sinful choices by misrepresenting Mormonism right? The church doesn't hate you for your wrong choices, lol.
I have been a member for 2yrs and have found so many things wrong with the church that doesn't add up with the Bible. This yr I am getting back with my Christian ways and moving away from the Mormon beliefs
That sounds hard, I’ll be praying for you fellow sister in Christ! I’m happy you looked into it and are going back to being a Christian. ❤️✝️
No not that hard since I still read the Bible and not reading the book of Mormon or other books from the Mormon church
@@juliagonzalez9977 i was always a Christian i was a Christian since I was a kid so it wasn't that hard to turn back
No one should join who does not have any srt of testimony ofo the Book of Mormon.
Christain is the same no better than mormans
My friend is a former Mormon and she hob-nobed with "Mormon royalty" in the seventies.....
She dated an Osmond, rode horses with apostle Boyd K. Packer's kids, was a winner in the Miss Provo and Miss Utah Pageants, ran for Miss USA, was Belle of the Y Princess, and did her PhD and taught at BYU. She knows all there is to know about Mormonosm, and she says this video is 100% TRUE and accurate! And my friend would LOVE to go on this podcast and help support Jesse---because Jesse is telling the Truth!
I pray that the Osmond’s all leave this church. Then I think it would collapse. Do the Osmond’s know all of this?
@@lauraevans3709.... The Osmonds are all phonies! My friend who knew them says they'll never leave Mormon cult as it gave them the opportunity to be "stars".. They were out for money and fame. And the church used THEM as a PR gimmick. They recruited their groupies into Mormonism . It was sick
They even had a Osmond Convert Club to entice kids into Mormonism-- it was disgusting. The Osmonds were NOT Christians. My friend never heard them mention Christ even once. And Wayne tried to get her into the back seat of the car! After that she never dated him again as she was a Christian.
Married a mormon woman in 1998. I know this religion as I took lessons early on which made me decide it was false. Just this week my family decided to leave the church and you helped me open the eyes of stout mormons. Thank you for your help.
Heavensgate leader should replace ol Nelson
When I used to live in California, I went to a ward where people were kind, sociable and friendly to me. But one day, when I was at a grocery store, I went to a check out line behind a lady who goes to the ward and is usually kind to me at church. I called out her name with a greeting, no reaction from her. I tapped her on the shoulders with a greeting along with her name, no reaction from her. Then when I saw her at church the following Sunday, she greeted me with a smile. I decided to look at her as if I didn't know her, and didn't react to her.
Weird. To be fair though, she could have been dealing with bipolar disorder or other mental disorder?
When i was in a dark place, 2 missionaries knocked on my door they were the sweetest girls from america, i met with them several times, they wanted me to be baptised!!! I started to read the book of mormon.. but had never read old or new testament. So i started to read them first.... at this time id only jus accepted that there was a god!!!!!!! Something about the book of mormon jus didnt feel right even then... so i googled and found out most this stuff that was in the video. Jesus is the way.. no sequels.
Forest for the trees.
@Taiwan92Abarth the Book of Mormon is the work of a charlatan.
@Taiwan92Abarth I'm a former Member, actually. If Moroni's challenge only has 1 answer and that answer is God is real and the church is true then that is an unfalsifiable claim. I received the opposite feeling about the BOM than yourself. Why is my experience less valid?
@Taiwan92Abarth you're in a cult
@Taiwan92Abarth And if I read the book, again, praying earnestly and still come up with it being false, would I be wrong then too?
I was in this church for 36 years and God took me out and I found the truth!!!, Which is being born again Christian!!! GOD is so good!
@@billthompson6442 it's was very much Worth it... Very much!!!!!!!!!!Islam isn't that different than mormons
@@minisight2000 l am so happy for you! Praise God for drawing you out. He drew me out also! Now free in Christ Jesus of the Holy Bible 💙🕊
From the frying pan into the fire. If you really have a personal relationship with Jesus, you don't need a middle man. You are trying, but you are not free to worship as you were intended to until you can do it one on one, without someone in between telling you how you should be doing it. You know in your heart how to do it without interference or instruction Feel God in your heart and welcome Him all on your own. That is a relationship.
@@543US21 what?
@@543US21 why do you assume l or he requires a middleman other than Christ Jesus. Speaking for myself, l do not need a middle man. I place my trust in Christ alone. He is my living hope.
"Many will come saying my name, but are false Prophets."
-Jesus Christ
@Taiwan92Abarth A cult has no excellent fruits just delusion.
@Taiwan92Abarth my profession involves deconstructing brainwashed cult members. LDS bears all the characteristics of a cult, it's very similar to Scientology in that it's polytheistic and members believe they can 'work' their way upwards and eventually become "Gods".
@Taiwan92Abarth Calling somebody ignorant is very childish. And second, you're in a cult! You're blind! Poor you! You are certainly brainwashed. Jesus is no brother of Satan. There is no polygamy in Heaven. Sex in Heaven??? NOT TRUE! Joseph Smith is a fraud! He took orders from Satan. Oh yeah! He had contact with the Devil. Mormons have been decieved, and are doomed for Hell. I'm glad I'm not a Mormon! I once attended a meeting. I'm never going back! The book of Mormon replaces the King James Bible. Any book that speaks other than the Bible, is Satan talk. You missed the point! I said I belong to no religion. I only believe in God, not man! What's also misleading is that Jesus came where the Aztecs were, and called it the New Jerusalem. No where does that say in the Bible! The New Jerusalem is yet to come. Not of this world!
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker Ikr?
@Taiwan92Abarth yes.they back AC/DC types and transgender lesbians..excellent fruits my busted arse!!!
Had Mormon girls come to my home and tried to convert me to Mormonism.Something felt off and I prayed to God for discernment and was led to your videos....
OMG!!! Same here same here!! The boys were so sweet and their talk was so smart that I felt we were the same category of christians but still something was off I felt like there were so much hidden things
My husband was born in the Mormon church. He became a Christian about 15 years ago. His mom, who is a very nice lady, but under the Mormon spell, kept sending missionaries to our home. I was the one usually home & would nicely say “ We are happy in our church, he is not home” They started trying to go behind my back to get ahold of him. Thankfully we moved last year & are in a gated community.
Oh bwoy... u guys are so wrong about everything...
TruBeauty Nailz
Wrong about what?
Christopher Foote
Let me interpret for you:
His mommy and daddy were Mormons. When he was born his family was Mormon. He was raised in the Mormon church.
Or said succinctly: he was born mormon.
@@christopherfoote4643 hayy! We know what she Mean about being born mormon its about born and grown Up with brainwash mormonism endoctrinement process For 8 years before get baptise.Peoples are not dumb .we get it ,Nice try but your Little sect Tactic don't work here.
Christopher Foote
My friend Christopher. It does matter because
A) the Book of Mormon contradicts God’s revelation.
B) we care for you guys and believe that you deserve better than living a life in a false teaching and doctrine.
If you choose to remain Mormon then God will still be the judge. The difference is, if you join orthodox (correct teaching) Christianity then you will discover a relationship with God that you never experienced before.
People sadly get drawn in by the awesome fellowship that they experience and it is no wonder that “feelings” are so strong to join. But start asking the wrong questions and not accepting the bogus answers and see how long that fellowship lasts. Sinners don’t get to be accepted in the LDS church while Christians understand that church is specially for the sinners, all of us.
Not true. Everyone sins sometimes, however small. That is only true if they commit something horrible like rape, and don't every say sorry and repent for it.
What a silly comment.
Bro I was literally taught about Polgamy when I was 14-15 in Institute and was curious to know more and context and ask and was given source material from religious teachers, and became informed about anything I wanted to learn and was given historical references and learned alot and prayed about it and understood some
of the possible purposes. But I was never denied answers rather given references and encouraged to pray and study.
😊
am a recent convert...and within 4 months in already a 'jacked' Mormon. Why? They're as bad as the catholic church when it comes to hiding child predators. One ex-bishop has a pizza place, ONLY hires young teenage girls. His wife hired me. He was angry. I SAW him being inappropriate with teen girls. I went to the bishop and was immediately gas-lit. Likes it NOT effing 2023. Then i was fired. These schmucks are PATHETIC!
I left the Mormon church almost two years ago and am now attending a non-denominational Christian church. Having said that, I think it's important to remember that just because a Mormon said something at some point, does not mean that it is what all Mormons believe today. Many of the things that were shared in this video are simply not at all what I was taught in my 42 years of weekly attendance at the Mormon church. I realize there are probably references for all of the "facts" that were shared here, but that does not mean this is what all Mormons believe today. Mormons throughout its young history have said all kinds of things that are not considered to be the doctrine of the church today. I also know many Mormons who hold personal beliefs that do not necessarily reflect what is always said at the pulpit. This makes the whole conversation endlessly complicated. It is my hope that we can all offer one another the same grace that we EACH so desperately need in this life.
I understand fully what you're saying. Yes, I can back up every claim made in the video and I do admit that yes, some of the things are not taught today (but were at some point by a "prophet!") so I can't just dismiss the past stuff and pretend it wasn't taught. Most things stated are current beliefs, though, and are not disclosed unless you search it out and learn it for yourself. So many secrets. So much kept hidden. Even people who join the church usually have NO IDEA what is done in the temples or that the goal is to become a god one day. Most people are unfamiliar with Joseph and Brigham and other's polygamy and contradicting teachings about who God is.... etc!! And this info needs to be made known.
I also hear you when you say to extend grace to one another but I simply cannot extend grace to people who are living in ignorance (many willingly) while they are serving an absolutely false god/gods. I need to proclaim the truth! As a Bible-believing Christian who loves Jesus and wants the world to come to know Him as their personal Savior, I have to expose false beliefs and proclaim the truth of the Word of God and I want to share the one and only true God and make Him known.
To be honest, I wasn't looking for a video such as this but the title caught my attention. Reading a lot of these comments, I have to say I agree with you. I had been a Mormon for over 30 yrs & I wasn't taught a lot of the things in this video & I have never heard of families not being able to be with their family members if they were excommunicated from the church. But hey, it seems a lot of church leaders in a lot of different denominations have never even read the Bible. So, the way I look at it is, if you want to be close to God, read the Bible, gain a close relationship with Heavenly Father and Jesus and don't sweat the small stuff. We can cant self righteousness till the cows come home and point the finger at any Church and go on a fault finding campaign but that will not make us better people. Just saying... probably good to ask questions and choose your lifestyle with care and thoughtfulness.
i don't want to detract from jessie's comment, but i do have a question for any mormon. how do you know what the true teachings of present day mormonism is? if you can't get it from reading the standard works, or elders quorum lesson manual, or sunday school manual, or the official online mormon website? how do you know for yourself what the true mormon doctrine is, and h ow do you know that jessie is not repeating official modern mormon doctrine? if there is no written documentation for what you believe, aren't you then in danger of leading yourself and others astray with false teachings?
@@longnamenocansayy My take is, if you can't find the info by reading the official works, manuals & etc. then you have to consider the frame of reference. Then too, look at all the changes in the Catholic church. People don't question the changes so it shouldn't be surprising that the Mormon church makes changes. I believe there is such a thing as spiritual growth so maybe... It's why we need to keep studying the Bible. God opens our eyes when we're ready and able to understand.
Julia Dawn Olson Just to throw my two cents in; I come from a very heavily influenced Mormon home and my mother believes every single point made in this video. The bottomline here, in my opinion, is not whether all Mormons believe the LDS church doctrine or have even heard of most of these things. It’s that this church was not founded on biblical principals and biblical account of Christ Jesus. Which makes it a false Christ (Matthew 24:24) and because they think works and baptism and repentance saves they will be cast out (Matthew 7:21-23) Ignorance is not the same as innocence and we should be mindful of what people who speak “Christianese” say. That’s my take
I am currently working for a mormon family…They have been tryng their best to drag me to their church…At first they asked the missionaries to come share the gospel with me…When they did i was so drawn to what they were saying and believed them…They have a way of manipulating and getting into your heard…The second time they came they had their bible with them and a copy for me…From the moment they left i had a lot of questions and doubts about their teachings because they were contradicting with what i have learnt from the bible and so i went on a 3 day fast…That is when the Holy Spirit spoke to me..I thank God i ddnt give in to temptation because their approach will make you believe in whatever they teaching…Very sweet,kind people you wouldn’t second guess them…I asked them to stop calling me and they must not bother coming to give me lessons..Its been weeks now and they are still texting me and tryng to manipulate me…Even the family im working for is busy trying to lure me to their gospel each and every day…I know i am in the right path with God and i will hold on to him forever
My step dad verbally and physically abused me most of my life and he was a cop and follows the Mormon faith and when I went to his bishop to ask for help I was told go back and say I’m sorry and obey him with out question
Oh goodness. I am so sorry to hear this. Do you have any beliefs now after leaving the LDS church?
Im sorry that you were so mistreated by your father and those who are meant guide and nurture- that is not Christ-like at all. I hope you are healing now!
@@Kyraaa-rb3vc some days I wonder I’m an emotional train wreck most days do to ptsd anxiety depression anger outbursts plus I’m autistic my own family denies my step dad or the church for that matter we’re wrong for allowing this
@@devinshumway2347 That is a heavy burden Devin! Youre no longer part of the LDS organisation? Are you a part of any congregation?
@@Kyraaa-rb3vc I haven’t ben back to that church or any church not after the life I’ve led not after I became nothing more then a monster to everything I was once told that I am I ended up becoming homeless and lived out in a desert i have bounced from one side of the country to the other never truly having anyone to call friend or family
Mormons are legendary for their "newspeak" . as a jr high kid I was told not to tell people what church I attended, but to invite kids to church. That people would prejudge us without getting to know us...they were right.
In high school i went to seminary classes before school, they had us study the KJV in my sophomore year. I kept reading it and by my senior year had many difficult questions and deep misgivings about what they were saying to outsiders vs. what they were teaching me, as i was preparing for missions, we had been to the temple and participated in baptism for the dead, and that KJV kept coming up, you know, John 3:16&17...Eph 2: 8-10...stuff like that...so I started asking questions.
The questions were not welcome. And after a period of time, I wasn't either.
Fast forward 2 years I join the Marines...on Sunday if you go to church you can escape the watchful eye of the drill instructors for 2 hrs! So I went to the LDS service...within 2 weeks of filling out the visitors card, tha minister in charge met me at the door and explained where all the other denominations met...I was blackballed! Not that I'm hurt, just a fun example of LDS love....the holy spirit got ahold of me a few years later, and I'm saved now. Pray for your LDS frieds, the indoctrination theye been through is powerful...they're convinced if they lose their membership they're eternally cursed...it's sad really, no assurance of salvation.
Your telling the truth, keep it up.
Titus 3:5-7 "according to his mercy"
Thank you. Beautifully said.
YOur experience is completely different from mine Being Raised LDS (church of Jesus Christ of) I was taught to tell everyone what church I attended and to be proud of it. I did and I"m glad. Then my pentecostal friends invited me to their church when I was about 12. I asked my mom what I should do. She said I should go (which I did, those drums were pretty cool even though i sure wasnt used to them but still pretty cool) Then she said invite them to your church which I did. this was over 20 yrs ago and to this day I'm still friends with them. It sounds like your problem is with certain members and how they act but not "the church"
@@dukeball4ever1 I would say the problem is the church. The church wants you to worship a god that was once a man, wants you to make fun of Jesus Christ and say that he is the brother of Lucifer and wants you to believe another gospel.
The Bible calls this idolatry, blasphemy and believing another gospel damns you to eternal torment in hell. Gal. 1:8
I had four LDS missionaries in my home and they wanted me to read the Book of Mormon and pray about it and God would automatically tell me it is true. I showed them from the word of God that I do not pray to their heavenly father who was once a man, so I would not get the answer that they would get. I worship the Creator.
The true and living God the Father, who loves you and created you, was never once a man.
Job 9:32 “In truth I know that this is so;
But how can a man be in the right before God?
“For He is not a man as I am that I may answer Him,
That we may go to court together.
I Tim. 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
The true and living God was never once a man. He exists by His own power. He is self-existent. He lives outside of the time, space and matter because He created time, space and matter. He has no mother or father, does not need air, food, water, sex, sleep, shelter, clothing, etc.. He is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, immutable, infinitely holy, eternal and so much more. The highest heavens cannot contain Him. He created Adam out of the dust of the ground. No wife needed. No pre existence.
Why don't you worship your Creator?
Jesus Christ never said you had to believe the Book of Mormon was true to get into heaven.
Jesus Christ never said you had to believe Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God to get into heaven.
Jesus Christ never said there was salvation only in the LDS church.
Actually I was disfellowshipped, the chaplain told I was welcome to attend any other service on the base....he did not say I was not welcome to attend theirs, but I was asked to leave (kinda the same thing)
@@dukeball4ever1 l once defended the church as you do, untill l researched and saw through the deception. You have simply not discovered the actual truth of the Mormon Corp yet. So many are taken in by their manipulative behavior. They change doctrine like most change underwear.
God is not the author of confusion.
I rented a basement from a Mormon lady for a while. I went to the ward or stake or something a couple of times. A couple of missionaries came out and talked to me and you are right. it seems like we hit it off so well. They wanted to baptize me right away. Oh my goodness.
But I got busy and started researching everything on the Internet. When I came across the part where they think that God the father is a human being, that was it for me. I went to her and said”You believe that God is a man? So who created God?”
She said to God was created by another God who was in turn created by another God before him, etc., ad infinitum. I told her, “when you find the first God who was not created by any other god, That’s the God I’ll be worshiping!”
I mean I guess I’m supposed to be merciful and compassionate, but really what I want to say is “how dumb can you be?”
You should, and let God Do the rest....Its the True Church"
@@kennyhunter3323 Ok
Ah, we nearly got thrown out of Temple Square for saying something like that!
You don't know even the first things of "The Word of God", but yet you DEMAND to know who the FIRST being was? That's like not even knowing how to count from 1 to 10, but yet you REFUSE to believe in numbers until you are told "who invented the first number"?- And you ask "How dumb can you be?"
Exactly my experience less the renting from a Mormon.
Please explain why so many mormons are leaving the church? It's a very large number
"It's not secret, its sacred". "The church is perfect, its members are not". "We are a peculiar people". "Doubt your doubts". "Its a higher law, we cannot understand as mortals"....blah, blah, blah. The Mormons have a lot of canned answers at the ready when you bring up questionable stuff. Anytime you challenge someone, expect the canned answers to come out.
It's true!
Um it's not actually and your right no one is perfect you can't deny that.
It's Me Jessie
Oh and when I said whom the Lord call He qualifies, I meant those who are call by the authority of the Holy Priesthood. If you are not called to preach by that Priesthood authority you should not speak at all.
@@matthewhessler3257 wow.... Listen to yourself... If that doesn't sound like a controlling, narrow minded cult, I don't know what does.
Burke Shields
No, Our Heavenly Father is a God of order, he has one faith, one , baptism, and one church. He call women and men but that priesthood to preach and teach the Gospel. No man and that includes women take to this honor unto himself but he that was ordained as was Aaron. And how was Aaron ordained? By the laying on of hands by those who are in authority to administer the ordinances of the Gospel.
LDS. Huge push on FAMILY VALUES. As long as your LDS ( I'm no Mo). And stay married. I got divorced from a Mo and I was instantly excommunicated from the entire family.
Which is fine.
Seeing her father walk around the house in his Jesus jammies used to make my eyeballs throw up. And watching a bunch of grown adults crying their eyeballs out with their speeches aka "testament" about how much they believe in "the prophets" and Joey Smith (the pedophile) was depressing.
I take it you don't understand about divorces. When you get a divorce the person you are getting a divorce from their family will stop having anything to do with you because they're taking their family member side.I also have a feel they never liked you in the first place because you sound like real dumbass.
@@HEATHERMalone-i2j this was their experience.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Apparently she is has never been to an LDS Church.
Because most of what she is say is absolute BS.
Love how she is like “I tell my Mormon friends and they never heard any of this”.
Yes, because you are making up or repeating rumors you heard that don’t exist 🤦🏼♀️
I've been to the Sacrament meeting and classes afterwards. In recent months. I have LDS sources for every single point in this same video that I redid..
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
Former Mormon here (born and raised)...99% of her talking points are correct.
Sarah ericksen really ?!
I'm a former mormon too shes spot on
Your right 🤣 but it’s good preparation though I like watching her videos, prepares me to answer questions that people have on my mission
My favorite LDS catch phrases:
'It's not secret, it's sacred'
'Put your questions on the shelf'
'Swearing is like a cockroach in the sundae'
'Keep sweet and pray'
@Vincent Regimbal There is a difference between secret and sacred. Because we don't talk about sacred things, people like to exaggerate and say that it is secret. Do you have any idea what what Jesus said about things that are sacred? Any idea at all?
New Living Translation
“Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you.
English Standard Version
“Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.
Berean Study Bible
Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
Berean Literal Bible
Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the pigs, lest they shall trample upon them with their feet, and having turned, tear you to pieces.
King James Bible
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
New King James Version
“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
New American Standard Bible
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
NASB 1995
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
NASB 1977
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
Amplified Bible
“Do not give that which is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, for they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
Christian Standard Bible
Don’t give what is holy to dogs or toss your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, turn, and tear you to pieces.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Don’t give what is holy to dogs or toss your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them with their feet, turn, and tear you to pieces.
American Standard Version
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the swine, lest haply they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Do not give a sacrifice to dogs; neither throw your pearls before wild boars, lest they trample them with their feet, and return to run you through.
Contemporary English Version
Don't give to dogs what belongs to God. They will only turn and attack you. Don't throw pearls down in front of pigs. They will trample all over them.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you.
Good News Translation
"Do not give what is holy to dogs--they will only turn and attack you. Do not throw your pearls in front of pigs--they will only trample them underfoot.
International Standard Version
"Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."
Literal Standard Version
You may not give that which is [holy] to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the pigs, that they may not trample them among their feet, and having turned-may tear you apart.
New American Bible
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, or throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them underfoot, and turn and tear you to pieces.
NET Bible
Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces.
New Revised Standard Version
“Do not give what is holy to dogs; and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under foot and turn and maul you.
New Heart English Bible
"Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, or they will trample them under their feet and turn and tear you to pieces.
Weymouth New Testament
"Give not that which is holy to the dogs, nor throw your pearls to the swine; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and then turn and attack you.
World English Bible
"Don't give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
Young's Literal Translation
Ye may not give that which is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the swine, that they may not trample them among their feet, and having turned -- may rend you.
Get the idea???
@@MrNirom1 “Believe me because my book tells me so”; keep polishing that shit you’re trying to sell, jackass.🤣
@@I-AmTheLiquor Ah.. another ticked off person concerning MY religion... NOT YOURS!!
I am sure you have told many people about what Books you read have to say about things. Books teach subjects to people when they can't spend the time gathering everyone around the campfire.
My Book tells me many things. Other Books tell me many more things. And I am the one who gets to decide if the Book teaches things that are true... or things that are false.
Not sure what your problem is but it is always nice that I just got you so riled up that you have to call me names. I know you are but what am I??? LOLOLOLOL
@@MrNirom1 “Oh bad man use bad word, and hurt my feelings, bad man must be wrong.”
Using an argument from ignorance fallacy, and circular reasoning just further proves my point. You have no evidence to support the ladder points of the cult you hold so near-and-dear.
Those of us who don’t just take the first thing we read at face value, and apply it to our everyday lives as fact tend to be more reasonable then those who lack the courage to research anything that conflicts with their singular understanding of reality. Learn to think for yourself, and stop relying on religion to think for you.
@@I-AmTheLiquor LOL you just think you know everything. I have researched my faith for the last 45 years I have been in it. There is nothing that anyone has come up with to show me anything different than what I believe.
You have no idea what my life has been. But you are so arrogant you think you have it all figured out.
You will put my religion down without revealing what your religion is. And I have noticed that you have not said one thing worth while that would even make me stop and consider you are right. If you can't control what you have to say...; then you are a bad man. A very immature one. You certainly didn't hurt my feelings. LOL
Why don't you show us all how really smart you are and point out all those "ladder" points. hehehe
People rarely hear that M-O-R-M-O-N is one letter from M-O-R-O-N. It is believed that Joseph Smith had a hatred of religion and was a con man, so he chose to add the second M. Mormons claim that they believe the Holy Bible, but the Book of Mormon and their other books contradict the Holy Bible many times. When people are talked to about becoming Mormon, many of them ask questions that the young people don't know the answers to, so they research to answer and then find out many wrongs in their religion, then some quit.
Give me an example of where the Book of Mormon contradicts the bible doctrinally please. Thanks
Mormon was actually just a rude nickname people gave us a while back because they thought we worshipped Mormon, so what you are saying is false.
Did you know shirt is one letter away from shit? I'm so glad I don't wear shirts anymore, don't want to be known as a shit wearer.
@chrisspiller4443 the fact that Evangelicals give a pass at nonsense like calling us Morons just shows the truth behind the so-called Christianity of protestant Evangelicals
I spent most of my life in the church. Off and on again. Was not really active until later in my life. I took out my endowments at the age of 40 . I left at age 55 now 60. My family was always active in the church and they turned their backs on me as well as my wife and a couple of my children. I'm still married but not much longer. We agreed to just not talk about religion. But my wife has never passed up the chance to remind me of the huge mistake. And I just can't go on that way. Our marriage isn't a marriage anymore. Not even friendship remains at this point. Pretty miserable living with someone who you no longer have anything in common with. I'm pretty lonely aside from my relationship with my savior. I need a woman in my life. And because of my age and the fact I haven't dated in over 40 years. Just don't know where to start. Pray for me.
Sir, you need Jesus. Jesus said, "Follow Me." Jesus is the good Shepherd. Jesus will never let you down.
John 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
Jesus is my substitute (i.e. Isaiah 53:4-6). He is way more than my example. A substitute does it for us. An example shows us how but we must still do it. He personally paid the penalty for all my sin. As a result, of His mercy I want to obey His commandments.
Jesus as my righteousness, as our law-keeper (i.e. Romans 5:19, 1 Corinthians 1:3; Isaiah 61:10) The biblical truth is that Jesus kept the law for us
I know for sure that I have been completely forgiven (i.e. Hebrews 10:14-17) and am accepted by God (i.e. 1 Peter 2:9).
I know God is with me, providing and protecting me (i.e. Romans 8:31-39, Psalm 23).
I know for sure that when I die I will live eternally with Heavenly Father (i.e. Philippians 1:23).
I have no doubts because my acceptance by God depends entirely on Jesus’ work for me and he has already accomplished it (John 19:30).
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Sir, please dont give up. You did the right thing. I will pray for you okay. I just turned 60 this month. I am alone also, aside from having the Dear Lord in my life. Hang in there, my Friend.
That's what I used to think. I've never been happier since I've decided a woman isn't what I need.
What I needed was to be ok with being alone. It's not only liberating, but I don't worry about trying to make someone else happy.
Remember, you at one time thought your current wife was what you needed, how did that work out?
No one to waste your time trying to do the impossible of jumping through hoops to make them happy... No one to disappoint=no one who will disappoint you. Think of being alone as a win-win situation.
@@fayelewis5476 Jesus is not the substitue for human companionship and a vagina. We are biological beings so get your head out fo the clouds.
I’m praying for you that god gives you peace strength and happiness ❤️❤️ god bless you 🙏
even though I don’t want to be a member of the church anymore, and I am finding my way, a lot of the things you claim in the video aren’t true/way over exaggerated and misunderstood. There are definitely things about the church that have caused me to leave, but some of this is just not true.
Claire Hansen Hi Claire,
What things do you feel she is saying here that are misrepresenting LDS doctrine/teachings?
idk abt claire but i have never heard or found anything about Heavenly Father having actual sex with Mary and abt Jesus being a polygamist
@@solangesmusic.1877 they aren't going to respond they are a plant
Another mind blowing fact, that the day when you receive your name, EVERYONE IS GIVEN THE SAME NAME!
Another mind blowing fact is that missionaries are tremendously pressured to baptize as many people as possible. In fact, missionaries make use of physiology techniques to deceive people and achieve their daily goals. The LDS church is a billionaire global organization which promotes missionary work and marriages in order to increase its membership and therefore its profits.
@@dannyvalladares5324 Yes! They trick you! Send the most youthful person to your house, that is well mannered and sweet person...
@@dannyvalladares5324 how ELSE are they gonna keep the corporation financed.
Here's a mind blowing fact.
Tricking people into joining doesn't work, and is counter productive, and if a mission president can't see that, he should be released from his calling.
Missionaries teach the gospel and the Book of Mormon. No psychological tricks, no deceptions.
Also, the Church does not need money. The Church has plenty of money. So, that blows up the theory that we need members so they give more money.
@@lindalds I was a full time missionary! I know how things work! At that time I didn't realize I was doing such things cuz I was brainwashed. It's been 5 years since then and now my mind is clear to see things people like you do not want to see. When it comes to the money, how do you thing the church made its fortune? It's obvious. Missionary work, temples and marriages are investments foe the chuch, however, they sell those to its members and investigators as blessings, salvation, exaltation and happiness.
The elders have told me a few of these and started to get mad when I kept questioning them.
That is normal watch ex-mormon files on you-tube many of them asked questions about mormonism and some have been ex-comminicatesd. Or never answered.
I wasn’t there, but I’ve known probably thirty five missionaries and I cannot stress to you enough that they are just 19 year old boys. They are not religious experts or scholars, they do not have a direct line to God 24/7, and they are not perfect. Please don’t assume that their refusal to answer (or maybe just confusion) is proof against their beliefs.
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You have to realize that these young 18/19/20 yr olds are not perfect. They do their best to get a message along but they don’t have all the perfect answers
@@mysterymatrix8527 Jesus requires perfection to get into heaven.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye perfect.
My Mormon Mission... God forgive me. So I was raised LDS, my father served an LDS mission. Growing up in a small Utah town all of my friends went on missions, but I didn't want to because I felt in my heart that the LDS church was not true. I never believed in Joseph Smith or the BOM. So I went to college, also in Utah. There I met other friends who were confused as to why I wasn't on a mission at the age of 19. I was under so much pressure from my family and friends to go. I was told that I would never get married and that I promised to save people before I was born, but that I would be letting them down if I didn't go. So I caved in and went. I never read the BOM until I was in the MTC. I still felt that the church was not true and that the BOM was invented. On the mission I followed all the rules to the exact detail (it's my personality). But every time I taught about good ol' Joe and his book I felt horrible and never believed it. I feel like the mission was an incredibly aggressive sales pitch for Mormonism. I was required to keep statistical data that was reported to the HQ every week. It's honestly like trying to sell a used car with no tires. But I grinned and bore the two year event and "returned with honor." Now I feel really bad because I drove people away from the true Christ (if he actually exists). So God please forgive me.
I know we spoke in a comment under one of my other videos... can I encourage you to read the book of John in the Bible? And also Romans? Just pick it up and read and seek God. Let Him show you exactly who He is. He is absolutely a God of forgiveness and you have always seen that Mormimonism was a lie... so because you are now free from that, my encouragement to you is simply to seek out God and find Him through His written Word, the Bible. If you read the New Testament like a child... just let it speak to you so you can discern for yourself who God is and what is truth. The RUclips video on Micah Wilder and his testimony while on his LDS mission is very powerful. I'm praying for you, Jeremy! God loves you so much.
@@johnlee1352 You're right. I never read the Book of Mormon before my mission. I should have clarified to state from cover to cover. I read portions in church, seminary, family home evening etc... Do you have to eat an entire pie before you know it's bad? Thanks for the personal attack. Peace be with you.
God bless you.
@@johnlee1352 learn how to spell
@@johnlee1352 Why are you making this personal. My intellectual reasoning is in part thanks to BYU where I earned my masters degree. It was also through reason that I learned the LDS Church is not true. I invite you with love to do the same. God bless.
It's easy to see the indoctrination and ridiculousness in other churches and religions, but most people are blind to the indoctrination and ridiculousness in their own. Religion is the great divider of people.
Nationalism is yet another.
That is certainly accurate. It is difficult, but we need to turn our scrutiny upon ourselves, the beliefs we hold and behavior of groups we are part of and support. I think getting to know people and learning is one beneficial road. Any other ideas?
I’m a Christian and I agree. I try my best not to be ignorant of my own faith as well because of the fact that these different versions of Christianity exists. What makes what I believe any different?🤔
“The” CoJCoLDS is based on division, so is the Bible to be fair, but Mormons take it to the next level and then add another set of stairs to climb after you scale a rickety ladder to get there
But believing in Jesus is the unity of all people.
I joined the church nearly six months ago. This month I came across D&C 132 which completely shattered my testimony (even though it’s literally in the cannon of the church) I plan on leaving the church. I am meeting with a pastor from a local Christian church tomorrow, please pray for me friends
That leaves me out at 55...and I would not submit to slavery by pregnancy . Also it's by faith we are saved not by works we are saved. However, faith without works is dead.
@Rhonda You are saved by Having Faith in Christ, You will receive Grace. It is a gift of God.once you have Grace. God will guide you to do his Works, not Man's works
James 2:26, it's in the context of James talking to the twelve Jewish tribes about their materialism in their ideas about works getting you into heaven. I love James, my favorite book that I've studied
Just check out Romans 3:20 and Ephesians 2:8-9
you guys are silly. no one makes you have any kids .....just like outside of the church. you and your spouse determine how many kids you have. No one else even has a say. Just more lies being spread about Christ's church. Its' OK it was happening 2000 yrs ago and still goes on today.....i guess we are used to it :)
Salvation only occurs after death, and only for those who lived righteously after accepting Christ - it is impossible to be “saved” while still in this life, which is a false doctrine
Christ directly states that you must endure to the end before salvation can be applied to your life - Matthew 24:13
We are saved by Christ's grace, but only after being judged by our works - Titus 3:5, Titus 1:16, Rev. 22:12-14
Perform the Lord’s statutes even until the end - Psalms 119:112
Worldly people despise Christ's true plan of salvation and dangerously invent their own - 1 Cor. 1:19-29
We save ourselves by pondering the doctrine and doing it - 1 Timothy 4:16
Thank you for posting this. We just moved to a new city and literally all of our neighbors are LDS.
hey, maybe check out churchofjesuschrist.org to see what the other side is saying.
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html It's all true and verified through LDS sources.
You should also watch videos by Jeff Durbin, Perry Preston and Micah Wilder.
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Don't judge your poor Mormon neighbors by this video, much of it is not true, or partially true with a lot of inflation. Mormons are on the whole very good people, and would make excellent neighbors
@@itsmejessie It's really not though, some is true, some is half true, some is just crazy talk... ;) It's clear by your information you don't have a good grasp of Mormonism at all.
I was Mormon for 18 years, i’m now 23. I never knew about a lot of the creepy shit that went on in the temple, only that my bishop had to approve me to go and that it was “sacred.” I’m just now seeing all these videos about the temple ceremonies and it reminded me of the time that they had me baptize dead people inside a fountain with statues of cows around it…. very scary as a child. I also never got to see any of my siblings get married because it was “sacred”. Creepy af.
@Dustin Hirschi Rams??? Really? You look at bulls and see sheep? Yea... Baptizing the dead was a real hard thing to do. Too bad you don't have the gift to see the dead. If you did, you would see them standing in line to watch the two people who are involved in their baptism. And to feel the joy that come from them finally able to start progressing. Yea... but because you can't... you need faith. It is probably better for you who never had a testimony of the Gospel to be involved in any way. Yet here you are on a anti-LDS site criticizing your families faith. How proud your parents must be.
@Distin Hirschi Jesus said “Except a man is born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Jesus himself got baptized and he received the Holy Ghost. His Apostles baptized believers and conferred the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. How about those who died without the gospel. Jesus’ words are clear: They cannot enter into the kingdom of God. How can they receive the gospel if they’re dead? 1 Peter 4:6 says, “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” But how can they be baptized? Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:29, “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?” Baptism for the dead in the Church is by revelation a vicarious ordinance of the gospel which is performed in the temples of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are now 168 such temples in operation, and more will continue to be constructed till the second coming of Jesus Christ.
@@MrNirom1 You're a wackjob. You're also spending your time on anti mormon videos and writing crazy comments. You're no better than I, though you and the weirdos in your religion think you are.
@@jimbomanzano5743 It's creepy as hell, and it's witchcraft. Plain and simple.
@@dustin7405 Oh I have been called worse than a wackjob by people like you.
My comments are not crazy. Perhaps you would like to share with me what YOU consider to be a "crazy comment"?
It is not that we are better than you... it is that we are better at understanding our faith than you are.
You were of my faith but never got it. I wasn't born into this faith... but I got it. And when I explain it... you don't want to believe it so you call us names and tell us we are crazy. It must make you feel better when you can do that. You kind then feel like you know more than I do about my faith and my understanding of it.
Of course I am on anti-mormon sites like this one defending my beliefs. I have been doing this since 2007 when I saw critics and ex members of the Church say "crazy" things about my faith that were NOT true. So instead of letting these people get away with it without someone bringing the lies to light... some people would believe what they have to say. As I have said many times and in different places. I have never spoken ill of my past faith and nor demeaned the people who still believe it. When I left that church... I also left it alone!
As a former Mormon I can testify that this video is true
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints I can tell you that you are lying.
@@rbwinn3 u are brainwashed
@@rbwinn3 As a person who was adopted by a Mormon family, and who "was" a Mormon for over 10 years, I can tell you that you are the flaming liar, and I would call you a liar in your face while DARING you to do something about it. Wanna try me?
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Oh, and here is a FACT. Joseph Smith WILL NEVER be a "God" to make planets to rule over. And neither will you since there is only one Creator and since there will ALWAYS only be one Creator. Deal with it, there's NOTHING you or anyone else can do to change this fact.
@@richardstorm4603 Well, what I plan to do is wait until I am resurrected and let Jesus Christ decide what I am going to do. You concerned Christians all think you are sent here to be judges of mankind. That comes from praying to a god without body, parts or passions. Satan does not have a body or parts. He does have a passion, which is hatred for the people who pray to him.
My mother is Mormon and she finally admitted that she believes in a different Christ because I showed her an article by one of their “profits”, Gordon B Hinkley, and he said that this was the case. Please pray for my mom... Thank you for your video :) Godbless
Have you read the book, Unveiling Grace, by Lynn Wilder?
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I am a Mormon and I am trying to get my atheist 90 plus year old mother to believe in God.
@@raymondellis1454 You should try believing in Christ Jesus, the God of the Bible as opposed to following a murderers doctrine. yep, that's right, you beloved Joseph Smith was a murderer as well. He has also helped lead countless millions to the Lake of Fire.
@@wyliestivers2634 I don't see how Joseph Smith was a murderer. What she said in the video has no evidence to back anything up
@@spenceratwood5475 all of this that she said is backed up by LDS.org own documents.
Also highest rate of anti-depressants prescribed to women. Trying to be “perfect “ takes a toll.
Monique Jefferies , when I asked someone about that, he was so excited to say that research has shown that it’s the altitude. I don’t think we are the only higher altitude communities. I wonder what depression rates are for other high altitude-communities.
That’s anecdotal
Denver has a similar altitude and not the same problem.
@@pattyb8736 lol it's not the altitude, it's the attitude.
Legalism, elitism, perfectionism ....
depression.
Maybe it's possible that the rates are so high, if they are, because they are more proactive a people when it comes to health and addressing any health issues.
I did all that Mormon stuff including going on a mission… the day I walked off the plane from a mission…got a honorable release and never went back to church…The interesting thing… no one ever called… not even the bishop that just released me. I found out the most important thing, the truth…I was extremely expendable. Bottom line… LDS church is a business. I was played a fool and now I have found true spirituality.
@ Joe Cox. Oh come on Joe. There is much more to the story that what you are telling. I wonder why no one called? Not one person? No one! Wow Joe... this smells awful fishy to me. Honorable release and never went back to church. LOL Something stinks to high heaven.
I had two girls stop at my door one day and needless to say they will not be back I told them everything they did not want to hear about there church
Where are you getting this info from your reading everything your being a bit extreme and some of your information is very off
Very.
Off
Jennifer Coverston
Depends on your sect of Mormonism.
She'd be shocked silly if she knew what I could tell her.
It's in your own books. Journal of discourses
I grew up in a small southern Utah town, and was one of 9 non members in a class of 48 kids. I received “extra credit” in high school from a teacher by agreeing to meet with the missionaries at her home. I showed up with all sorts of questions about these things you’re mentioning, and the things I didn’t agree with about the religion. The missionaries had not only ZERO answers for the questions I had, but they, as missionaries, hadn’t heard of 90% of these principles their precious religion had been built on. I transferred out of this teachers class shortly after she chewed me out for how badly I “embarrassed” her in front of the missionaries.
I call BS
Shelly: I believe you.
Shelly I believe you
enlil7billion ok and you know everything about your religion? Please keep yourself humble. P.S. I don’t call BS, but since when has one person’s faults made an entire religion false? Even if you’re telling the truth, that’s hardly ammo against the Church. Maybe a nerf bullet.
enlil7billion maybe the questions you asked weren’t as basic as you thought. And again, since when has one person’s faults made an entire religion false? The missionaries not knowing how to answer your questions doesn’t make my church false. And who knows, maybe your question was confusing because we don’t believe there were two tribes that came to the new world. Maybe we do believe in the same event, but the way you phrased that I have no idea what event you’re talking about.
I'm very happy I left the LDS church. Left 3 months ago and have adapted to my new life after religion. I choose to live my life without any religious training now.
Well, I am happy you left the LDS church. I will pray that you seek out the truth of the Bible. Just because the Mormons distorted and corrupted it and twisted it's meanings to promote their cult does not mean that there isn't a true God. He loves you! And He is so real!!
I need help with prayer my wife won't leave the mormon church shes been there 7 years and I recently left few months ago I was there for 5 years but I never believed in there gospel or there book. I was going to be with her and my son but I dicided to leave because the holy spirit helped me to break out of there. I still have problems with my wife every day and she don't believe in the holybible or any Christian church she gets mad when I go to my church on Sunday and all week I try and read the bible daily. I'm sad because she wants to lead my kids to her false religion and don't want to listen to me. So please brothers and sister can you pray for my wife norma lindan. Thank you God bless you all.
Couple of observations:
1. I think some of your points here are circular. Even if some aspects of Mormon liturgy and symbolism can be found in Freemasonry, that doesn't logically preclude them also being inspired or authentically ancient -- especially if you're open to the idea of God being an active participant in human affairs, the existence of supernatural abilities, or divine revelation.
2. You cite the Masonic interpretations and uses of various symbols, rituals, and such. Why are they the authority? I think you quoted Manly P. Hall at some point. Why is his view the correct one, rather than that of the Mormons? In general, you seem to ascribe a lot of factual credibility to occultists.
3. The Satanic Bible came out in the mid 20th century. I don't see how it has any bearing on the Mormon texts.
4. "Oh Lord, my God" could be the beginning of the Masonic phrase. It could also not be. It's hard to prove.
5. The Mormons, from what I understand, do not consider every word a prophet speaks to be prophetic or inspired. Brigham Young did speculate about there being people on the sun, but he did not say so as a prophetic pronouncement. Bringing up non-prophetic statements doesn't do much to discredit the prophetic ones.
6. Not everything that happens in Utah is because of Mormonism. It could be that the higher rates of domestic violence is connected to Mormonism, but you haven't really proved that it is.
7. The idea that upside-down pentagrams represent evil is pretty recent, postdating the founding of Mormonism. Before Eliphas Levi (19th century), people didn't typically ascribe different meanings to the pentagram depending on whether it pointed up or down.
why should we ascribe occult meanings to the symbols? what meaning does the mormon church ascribe to the occult symbols. are they perfectly transparent in all their doings? no. what does the mormon church say the square and compass is symbolic of? what does mormon church say about the handshakes? are they secretive? yes they are secretive.
for me it is not so much the use of symbols. we all use symbols everyday. the letter E is a symbol. all the letters are symbols. it's not the use of symbols. it the secret associations with those symbols.
the masons assign secret associations to those symbols. masonry is thinly veiled baal worship. mormonism is thinly veiled masrony. am i wrong? have i accused unjustly? open up the books to the light of day. let's hear what the mormon church says the correct use of masonic symbols is.
@@longnamenocansayy I disagree that Mormonism is "thinly veiled Masonry". Inspired by Masonry? Sure, but most of Mormon theology and cosmology is not lifted from the Masons. If it's veiled Masonry, there's more veil than Masonry. Additionally, neither Mormonism nor Masonry have stayed the same since then. I don't think it can be assumed that everything in Mormonism that has a parallel in Masonry must carry the same significance for Mormons as they do for Masons.
The Word of Wisdom is what convinced me to look further into Mormons. The Word of Wisdom stated various dietary things that at the time nobody would have known for sure. Modern science has proven that those dietary rules will very likely lead to better health. During the time that was written, doctors didn't typically wash their hands between patients or after touching the dead and saw no real reason to. The Bible basically says to test a prophet, look at their fruits. If they are genuinely divinely inspired, the words they say that are divinely inspired should be able to stand the test of time, and the Word of Wisdom does indeed seem to have stood the test of time. I admit, I have yet to read everything the LDS church has put out, but that tidbit caught my eye and seems like a divinely inspired piece of wisdom in a time when such wisdom just didn't exist as humans hadn't even figured out they should probably wash their hands due to invisible to the eye microbes. Of course, the Jews have a practice of washing their hands that dates back to forever that is divinely inspired. Of course, now they mostly see it as a ritual, but back when it was first decreed, it was likely in an attempt to help the then primitive and ignorant humans not die so much.
@@NotSoCrazyNinja wow interesting. I hadn't thought of that! Here I was thinking "Hey the word of wisdom is, if nothing else, a great reason for my husband and I to quit smoking, drinking etc" 😂😅 I do miss chai lattes but at least my husband doesn't drink 5+ cups of coffee a day anymore lol
I too haven't read every little thing about the LDS church but frankly I'm reading my Bible for the first time in years, I am a follower of Jesus again after renouncing religion years ago, and I pray with my family all the time. Seems like good steps to me. I've had so many blessings since I accepted Christ into my life again I barely know where to begin... Friendship, foster children, a new pregnancy, my significant and I finally marrying, a better relationship in general. Not in this order and the list goes on... I guess I could be negative and say we will see how long it lasts but it feels right. We have hardships still, obviously, but instead of worrying and stressing I just know it'll be okay. Christ will guide us. And if this church is wrong or bad or whatever then I'd venture to think He will show us that with time as well.
@@Carlie_flower Not even a year ago, I was pretty much in the atheist camp. Not quite though as I have never really given up on believing in a God due to my experiences. From my teenage years until somewhat recently, I pretty much shunned all religion. I had my reasons, but the main was that "the church just didn't feel right" (Baptist, Southern Baptist, Evangelical, etc, I went to many in my "research"). Somewhat recently, about a couple years ago, I felt moved to investigate the LDS church. I had always just lumped them in with other cults and crazies like most people do, but the deeper I dug, the more truths I found. Like with any religion, I don't agree with EVERYTHING they stand for, but so far, I have yet to find any "deal breakers". I don't consider myself a Mormon, but I have gotten back into reading my Bible and "letting God handle my worries" instead of trying to go it alone. I have so much more peace now and I'm actually making progress in life again. It's slow, but progress is progress. Just recently I found myself in a pretty serious financial situation due to an ex-roommate moving out and stiffing me on the final rent. I was nice and didn't demand a deposit from him when he moved in. When he left, he left owing about $400 and I later found out he took some of my stuff with him. I was facing having my electric shut off in a matter of weeks due to non-payment since I just didn't have the money. I broke down and asked God to "handle it" as I saw no way of making everything work out. Well, things worked out. Everything got paid on time, I didn't have to suffer in the process, and I had peace with the whole situation. Since then, I have asked God for help with my addictions to nicotine and caffeine. I have cut my nicotine use in half and cut my caffeine use by about 25% in only a few days. I might actually be able to quit the two in the near future, something that I thought was hopeless. All because I had a little faith in God and "let him handle it". Of course, I tell people that when you ask God for help, you have to listen too and act if you feel you should. Prayer alone doesn't typically work, you have to be receptive to answers on what to do to get yourself where you need to be and be willing to put in the work needed. My life has dramatically changed for the better since returning to God. I was foolish to turn my back on him.
You mean that it's a fraud and they are just trying to get money from you.
they gotta support the corporation
I’m a recovering Mormon, and while most of what Jessie says is accurate, there were a few things that aren’t. The LDS Church is not a good organization and anyone who’s investigating it should do serious research into the church’s history & less often discussed practices before committing themselves to its bizarre practices, emotional pressures & misleading leadership/teachings.
Ba-humbug. Look into past history? Yes, mankind has come from a bad history...so what are you complaining about NOW? Just because you are afraid to commit to a religion you can say all kinds of bad things about any of them... So what. You have it so great already in your life that you don't need religion? Well, most people have found peace and salvation in their religions and so much more, thus not afraid of their vulnerability and imperfections, yet go to church and welcome their Christian community and compassionate hearts. It makes a difference in their lives, because they WANT to.
birdlynn hubbard what are you talking about? For someone who doesn’t know me you have a lot to say about what religion I choose to follow (or not follow). Does it make you feel better to make assumptions about those who have been able to recognize the absurdity that is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?
Mankind doesn’t come from “a bad history”, although there have been bad people & events. Joseph Smith was one of those bad people. As so many Mormons do you want to claim all of humanity descends from bad to lighten the glaring truth that Mormonism was born out of the mind of a narcissist with delusions of grandeur. I wish you luck with that.
birdlynn hubbard I should add that having grown up Catholic I have seen this story play out before. I believe that Christianity is an overall good for the world, churches and religious organizations that use their power & influence to undermine the constitution, hide their undesirable history & protect pedophiles should not be counted as truly Christian. Even though many of its members probably are Christian in their hearts & practices, being naive or turning a blind eye to corruption isn’t the Christian thing to do. When I learned about the church’s history it was only the icing on top of the cake. It’s what’s happening now that caused me to walk away from the LDS church, and I will fight against any organization that protects those who harm children.
@@damienjstepick It is in the world, Damien. Not just in the churches. (The Pediphiles) I too believe all religions have their place and do belong. But it is a very individual thing where one is called to or where one feels at home. Hopefully, the spirit will help them there because I do believe we are all called to gather together and to hear the word of God. As we are called, and that is what is free. It also can take away your loneliness wherefore people are reminded they are loved by God and community. That is a pretty important in my book. ;) It is so easy for people to criticize churches, or anything these days, but what do they NOT criticize anymore? I'd rather be in church or Mosque hearing the spirit of God and truth which enlightens me and heals me while walking through this world. If and whenever a church I hear criticize another, it is a turn off to me. Immediately. I find that offensive, therefore I go to where it is right for me. It can only be that way. Until people find that way for themselves too then they will feel something beautiful in church that resonates with their heart, mind, and spirit and it makes you want to return again and again and again. That is how church should be. Peace.
birdlynn hubbard I wasn’t the one who assumed to know someone I don’t. That was you. I am happy for anyone who finds peace and happiness, but any organization that claims to be the moral authority on earth while protecting pedophiles, undermining the constitution & harming its members through lies doesn’t deserve to be left alone because its active members enjoy it. Most Nazis enjoyed their way of life.
I feel for those who haven’t woken up to the deception of the Mormon church, and I hope one day they find peace as part of a church that doesn’t act in a vile & deceptive manner. Just as members of any mosque should alert authorities to members who may want to commit terrorism in the name of God, so should Mormons who know about corruption within the church.
I shared my feelings based on MY experiences. YOU threw stones. If you truly felt peaceful about being a member of the church I doubt you’d care what I think, I doubt you’d be watching this video and I doubt you’d have started by attacking & assuming if you did desire the chance to open up a dialogue.
A cross without Christ is too much to bear
Then you know nothing of the doctrine of the restored Gospel of Christ. The "cross" is everywhere in LDS theology, but Latter-day Saints understand it correctly whereas you do not.
We celebrate his resurrection, not his death. That’s why you won’t see a cross in an LDS Church.
@@rodinutah Then please explain to us how it is that a woman who does not have the opportunity to marry will not be able to enter the celestial kingdom. If the husband is an adulterer- what them becomes of the children that were sealed to their parents in the temple? Are they now no longer going to the celestial kingdom since their dad fell from grace and now they are no longer sealed to him? It seems like a family's salvation/making it to the celestial realm is dependent on a faulty man. If I am wrong here- please feel free to explain in a way we can all understand. Thanks in advance.
Well, my only answer to you is that Heavenly Father is a loving father. He will not deny any blessings to those who are worthy of them. A woman who has not had a chance to marry in this lifetime will be given that chance in the eternities. Children are innocent and will be also be blessed with those blessings they deserve. It will all be worked out in the end.
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Christ will not be known without His Cross.
It is better to live your own destiny imperfectly than to live an imitation of somebody else's life with perfection.
That is exactly what Satan wants you to believe. That there are many ways to Heaven. Jesus is the Way (only ONE way) the Truth (only ONE truth) and the Life (without Jesus your Spiritually Dead). Thru truth hurts 🤷🏻♀️
@@miamlatindiva You've spoken with Satan and he explained to you his agenda, I presume? Beware that you don't become a permanent resident of Naraka, it is a most unpleasant afterlife.
Satan is the Master of Deception he confuses everyone in the world to turn him away from following Jesus. Because everyone will reject Christ & the Anti-Christ will appear. There will be a 7 year Tribulation before God destroys the world. I am a Disciple of Jesus & my final destination is Heaven. I’m just trying my best under the power of Jesus who’s Spirit is inside me to spread the Gospel. Jesus died for you it’s a gift meaning you can’t earn the love of God.
@@miamlatindiva Which flavor of Christianity is this that you follow? Catholic? Baptist? Seventh Day Adventist? Latter Day Saint? The Church of Wells?
"Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ." Ephesians 5:1-2
Jesus often spoke in parables; so I shall tell a parable:
'There was once a man of Christ named Josef who made a middling wage in the world he lived. A religious man in a white robe, blue of eyes, speaks to him and says, "I am a shepherd of Jesus flock, give me your tithe and together we shall build the church of Christ." Another man in white, but brown of eyes, speaks to him and says, "I am a shepherd of Jesus flock, give me your tithe and together we shall build the church of Christ." Another man, disheveled and in rags speaks to him and says, "I am hungry. Can you help me?" Josef thinks to himself for a moment, and wonders to himself, of these three... who is beggar, who is shepherd, and who is charlatan, for I honestly cannot tell the difference. He gave his tithe to the disheveled man, for it seemed, to him, the most Christ-like thing to do.'
She don’t know what she’s talking about. I’m an inactive member but I will never replace my knowledge of the gospel from the others. So whether you believe mormonism or not, you have no right to mock any religion. Especially if you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
Honey let me tell u shes correct. I was in this religion for 40 yrs. U need read up. What your told is "anti" is real history. I use to defend mormonism just like u until I read the facts. Journal of discourses is a good starting point. And it's joseph and Brigham own writings.
Jullyn Pacioles so true, You are always welcome to come back Sister.
Alyssa Schollenberger you denied the HolyGhost.. I feel sorry.
Hi Jessie, you are very informative. I grew up in a Reorgaized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints family home. ( Not Mormon but shared some main beliefs. ) I Believed our church was the only way to salvation and that every one else is going to hell and that the Catholic church was the church of the devil. I was a non active member for years because I kept silent.
To make a long story short, at the age of 40 I came out of my bubble when I started asking questions and was not happy with the answers I received. I explored other Faiths. It says in the Bible that God wants us to question everything because in doing so we will find the truth. Wow has my journey of faith changed since coming out of the bubble.
I have so many stories of how God has blessed me and those I love.
All I need is my Bible.
God's salivation is for everyone, not just a chosen few. There is good and bad in all religion........but I also believe more than anything what my Grandfather told me. He said salvation is not how many times you go to church......or what church you go to......it's how you live your life, how you treat your next door neighbor, our actions and the kind of person you are in your heart.
God loves everyone. There is good and bad in everyone.
I would also like to point out that in the Bible it says why satan was kicked out of heaven and who he is/was.
The Bible are the only words I need. I pray you will be blessed in your search for the truth. You are definitely on the right track.
Thanks for listening or reading my post. Peace Out.
My answer should not sound harsh to you as it is difficult to show how I really mean it by writing. I mean it with love. Sorry you´re wrong! You think your way is the same as for example the Christian way.
But the way with Jesus Christ is unique. He is the way, the truth, the life and no one cometh to the father but through him. It´s about our sin before God. That made the gap between God and men. (the spiritual and also bodily dead).True repentence is what God wants and always wanted from us. He loves us but will judge correctly. As everybody is somehow guilty he would have to judge all of us. The wages of sin is death. This is also what you might have heared about heaven and hell. I know that in some famos east religions they talk rather of reincarnation and drop hell. But hell is real. So God in his love for us send his only begotten son that he would pay our wages. He suffered and died instead of us.
When you truly repend and accept Jesus Christ as your savior and give your live to him in a serious prayer, you will be free of sin (wages of..) immediately and will receive his holy spirit which also means that you will be bornagain.
A bornagain Christian. You would notice the difference. Please then (go on ) praying to Got in Jesus Name or to Jesus Christ and read the bible. It´s not about being rich and always of promised good health. It´s not about energies. It´s not about wishes to be fulfilled. Its not about meditating and hearing inner voices (I had my experiences... with "Angels", "Jesus" and others) Find out. It´s really serious. Please find out. There are also many false preachers.
It´s not about (trying) to be good. It´s about accepting his salvation. But , as I am not native english speaking I don´t know many, but you may listen to Paul Washer, John Lennox, ...and of course going on reading the bible.
Please excuse me if I misunderstood something.
May God bless you.
Of course they won't tell someone all these things on an initial visit. They usually have about 10 minutes to introduce themselves. I can't imagine a salesman knocking on my door and saying, "Hi, I'm Dave. I wear secret underwear. Would you like to hear what I have to sell you?"
This is the same reason we don't teach about mortgages or sex in kindergarten. Or why a university professor teachers things in a certain order. You start with the basics and add to it as the deeper information will be understood.
Of course those blasted Mormons won't tell you any of this when they first knock on your door.
they aren't blasted, just highly indoctrinated kids, that if they don't fulfill their mission their WHOLE family doesn't get blessed. It is really a sucky thing but that is what they do. These SHELTERED kids are turned out into a very scary world and told they MUST convert people or their family's STANDING in the celestial kingdom suffers. They get guilted into ALL they do, and it is such a tragedy. The pressure on these KIDS is so enormous. If they bomb or don't complete their mission most of the eligible girls SHUN them as a bad candidate for marriage. They MUST marry, and reproduce to be a TBM, and in good standing with their ward.
REALLY????
This is such a lot of lies!
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@@savannahsmiles1797 Thank you for your post. Didn't know the kind of pressure the young missionaries are under. Have a great New Year. God Bless you, your friends and family.
I'm a former Mormon and I really appreciate what you are doing here! Lots of these things not even lifelong Mormons really know. It's insane. The only correction I'd make is that Mormons aren't polytheist but henotheists. Polytheists worship multiple gods while henotheists worship one god but believe in multiple gods.
Thank you so much for your comment! I'm so happy you are no longer Mormon. Are you a Christian now or mind if I ask what you believe?
Regarding Polytheism: what about Heavenly Father, Jesus and the Holy Ghost being three separate gods? Would you say that Mormons don't worship them as separate gods? Did you only worship Heavenly Father as a LDS? What about Jesus?
It's Me Jessie I think this is where it gets tricky for actual Christians in understanding what Mormons believe around Christ. Because true Christians worship Christ but Mormons only really view him as their Messiah or Savior but not their God. The Heavenly Father of *this* Earth is their God and the only one they treat as such. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are instruments of God and aren't "deserving" of the same sort of treatment. Did I worship Jesus as a Mormon? Absolutely not. In fact, it was one of the big issues I started to have as I got older (I was raised Mormon). Mormons will point to "Jesus Christ" being in their name and they truly think that's sufficient. It's not. At all. They don't emphasis Jesus nearly as much as Christian churches do. They respect and revere their version of Christ but he is only a god to them no THE god. The funny thing is for them to push back on the idea that they are polytheist means they have to admit they don't worship Christ.
And I know this will be unpopular but I went Catholic after leaving Mormonism. However, I am always so happy to see any former Mormon turn to Jesus and the Trinity. Catholics acknowledge the baptism of Protestants because Protestants are correct in their belief in God. As a former Mormon I had to be baptised into Catholicism because, well, I was never a Christian. I was never baptised in the name of our true Lord.
I want to clarify- like with most thing Mormons use familiar terms that mean something different to them. Many will likely tell you they worship Christ. My argument is that they don't. They don't pray to Christ, for example, only to God in Christ's name. The "worship" of Mormonism looks very different from the worship of those who believe in the Trinity.
@@margaretphillips1137 Yes, I understand the concept of what you said and that was my understanding as well. I think you adding the point that Mormons saying that they're not Polytheistic means they have to deny worship of the Mormon Christ was a major point. My Mormon friends do not agree with what you told me (or should I say, don't *admit* what you told me) about Jesus. They all tell me that he is absolutely a God and equal with Heavenly Father and that they worship him. I never know when my Mormon friends are actually being completely honest with me. Sometimes I believe that they are being honest because maybe they just don't have all the answers and don't fully know how to answer. But then other times I feel like I'm being deceived. When talking about doctrine, I get the answers like, "Yes, we absolutely believe that. The same as you do!" But I know what they're saying is false and that they don't believe that at all. *sigh* It's exhausting. Anyways.. I appreciate your explanation and the time you took to write. And had I left Mormonism and converted to a Christian denomination, I absolutely believe in getting baptized again for real. 🙂 ..Baptized into a Bible-believing faith. And though I disagree with Roman Catholicism, I don't doubt that there are Catholics who are truly born again and who have fully accepted the true Gospel message of the Bible and Biblical Salvation. I do disagree with all works-based religions as well as the mediators placed between God and man, such as priests and the Pope and all. The Gospel message of the New Testament is so clear that Jesus is our mediator with the Father and that we can go directly to Him in prayer and in relationship. And Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us that it's not by our works that we're saved but through our faith in Jesus, by the grace of God and as a free gift from Him.. not of works lest any man should boast. But anyway.. just sharing my beliefs. Glad you commented! I'm always looking for exMormons to join me on my channel to discuss things like this so if you're ever willing, shoot me an email. 😊 God bless!
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Spot on
No Other Gospel
Galatians 1:8-9
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Archaeologists have yet to unearth any evidence supporting the claims of the Book of Mormon. In Ether 7:8-9, we read of steel and breakable windows (2:23) in Abraham’s time. Try to explain that to an archaeologist! Steel was not developed until about 3,000 years later.
At the end of the Book of Mormon, Moroni tells about a great battle that took place on the Hill Cumorah. More than 200,000 people, armed to their teeth, were killed on that hill. The story tells about their weapons, breastplates, helmets, swords, etc. Nothing like that has ever been found on that hill or anywhere else on this continent. Metal helmets, swords, etc., do not just disappear in a mere 1,400 years.
@Reasonable BB Thank you BB Galatians 1:8-9 is no other Gospel. LDS preach another gospel.....
@Ben Jantzen you convinced me there lol
@Reasonable BB Thank You. My heart is so sad that so many things are misconstrued.
Mormons seem nice on the surface. Most of them are not, especially if you challenge them at all.
Am exmormon. Almost all of this is true. I can't say all of it is true because there were things I didn't even know about, but theologically speaking make sense with the church gospel.
I love this video!! I was raised in the LDS “religion” and left just about four years ago. I wanted to leave my whole life but it was terrifying. It has been the biggest blessing to leave. Minus the hurt from family etc. Apparently I’m “humiliating”. Anyways... thank you for spreading truth. Most of these things I did not at all know which is so sick.
You didn't know them bc they aren't true
Lauren, I pray you come to know the truth of Jesus Christ and not what you have been taught. So happy you escaped!
None of these things are true though...
@@eyem4freedom escaped what exactly?
Kinda funny Lauren! Hardly anything she said was factual
Any who add works to grace have missed the mark. EPH 2:8-9, JESUS 100% not 99.99999.
Linda Dustin James 2:17 (I think) “Faith without works is dead.” Can it get any more simple than that?
I think you are both missing the point here. Grace and faith are two different things.
Grace is decided by Jesus and faith is decided by us and both are required to achieve the maximum outcome in an afterlife...
So we come across an argument that I see so many times, but actually both sides of the argument miss the context of the point...
Our faith cannot save us nor can our works if Jesus decides not to apply his grace... Grace is a decision based on how Jesus considers our situation..
Now to go with the Mormon point of view, Jesus grew in favour of God as he practiced doing his will, which means that as Jesus said as a warning "by there works you shall know them".
If you believe his words you will follow the two parables as Jesus taught.. 1. Not to hide your light
2. To be a good Samaritan.
Jesus also talks of what keeps you out of heaven, and it's not
Based on false beliefs, false prophets etc, which were rife during Christ time. Rather than do what this post tries to do,bwhich destroys good faith in what are called "true believer Mormons", but is more on the fact in how well you live your life....
Can a Hindu be saved? Or a Muslim be saved? Even if they have no passing mention of Jesus between their ears?
Grace applies here as Jesus will say, these lived their lives as good people etc, it won't matter of the false doctrine they were taught.
If a Mormon keeps their values as the ancient Essenes did and serve man and woman in their best capacity according to their beliefs, god's grace is more lightly apply to these than professors of faith who like the Pharisees taught good things but their hearts were far away...
I think both sides of the argument miss the point and neither understand grace or works...
Calibration Technique you have a very good point, which in retrospect is almost exactly what I believe but couldn’t articulate nearly as well as you, nor did I really try as I should have. Thank you for your perspective!
I'm an ex mormon and a lot of the contradictions, awful past evils of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are never taught. I didn't know that the star symbol was satanic until this video. You live in a bubble that brainwashes you and I stayed out of terror of going to hell if I left. I suffer from Scrupulous OCD (constant obessive thoughts that one wrong move will send you to hell) and the Mormon church completely messed me up to the point I wanted to commit suicide because I was going to hell anyway. Since leaving I still have the OCD but being a Christian is healing me not destroying me. God is merciful and is my Savior who will not push me to hell for being human. Leaving the church was the hardest and most freeing thing ever.
sometimes there is healing from intrusive thoughts. sometimes it's a poisonous plague in the brain that you can't get rid of.
i had it for 60 years because of something in my childhood. for me it was just taking name of jesus and rebuking the evil spirits that had been tormenting for so many years.
but not everyone has the same thing. a lady at work has terrible intrusive thoughts that drive her to thoughts of suicide. so i know it happens to a lot of people.
i hope for sure you find peace of mind somehow.
praise god.
Why do the LDS Church teach that the garden of eden is in Jackson Missouri when the bible says the garden of eden was in the middle east ?
I'm not aware of the Bible giving any location
@@jphish8724 In Genesis 2:8-14 tells us that there were 4 rivers ,Pishon,Gihon,Hiddek and the Euphrates river.So it gives us the general area of the garden of eden.Which would be somewhere in morden day Iraq.
@@bus2town I've heard that too, it's a theory by British archaeologist David Rohl, but is not considered academic, nor reliable, and is not widely accepted by serious Bible scholars. FYI, personally I believe the Garden of Eden to be somewhat more metaphorical; I do not ascribe to the LDS, or other traditional interpretations of this and many Bible stories.
I have called them many times on some of these subjects, especially about joseph smith. They simply deny them. They just say that my.information is incorrect and theirs is correct?
Though many points of information in this presentation were not true, most of her information about Joseph Smith is in fact true.
Even her information that was technically correct was taken out of context and twisted. She’s not telling y’all the truth
As someone who was adopted by a Mormon family at the age of 9, I can positively tell you that I was taught most of the stuff that she is talking about during Sunday school and also during 'Sacrament" (same thing as listening to your pastor but it's different speakers for the Mormon church). I'm so glad that my mom got out of this church and that she didn't push me to get out, too. If she would have pushed me, I would have not listened to her. Instead, she let me come to her to ask her why she left. She told me and showed me how she was fooled into believing in a pagan religion after she was raised a Baptist. Before I was adopted at age 9, I believed in Jesus Christ, but I really didn't understand Christianity. So, it was easy for me to get sucked into that pagan religion of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (BIG contradiction in that name). I've been out since 1993 after I joined the military and got stationed in Germany.
Oh, and here is a FACT. Joseph Smith WILL NEVER be a "God" to make planets to rule over. And neither will you or anyone else since there is only one Creator and since there will ALWAYS only be one Creator. Deal with it, there's NOTHING you or anyone else can do to change this fact.
Wow, thank you for sharing. Praise the Lord that you and your mom left the lie for the truth!
JS is rotting in hell now🤣
@@itsmejessie 😂😂😂
@richardstorm4603 In 1974 I joined the Army and was stationed in Germany until I got out in March of 1979.
It was there that I went to Germany as a Catholic and left as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
One thing I learned was that the facts I thought were facts were not. I now know I have the correct facts. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord's Church upon this earth. It was created for the humans who would be sent to this planet right before the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ to prepare the people of this world for the changes that will be made for the millennium.
What is the major sign to mankind that the 2nd coming will happen soon?
Here is a revelation from Joseph Smith to the world:
“I have asked of the Lord concerning His coming; and while asking the Lord, He gave a sign and said, ‘In the days of Noah I set a bow in the heavens as a sign and token that in any year that the bow should be seen the Lord would not come; but there should be seed time and harvest during that year: but whenever you see the bow withdrawn, it shall be a token that there shall be famine, pestilence, and great distress among the nations, and that the coming of the Messiah is not far distant.’”
The bow has been seen this year. And remember this... it does not have to rain to see the rainbow. You can often see it when spraying water on the lawn on a sunny day.
I find it funny that you can state a FACT yet because it is a future event you are proclaiming yourself to be a prophet and declaring that what Joseph Smith will or won't be.
The only FACT your presented was that you "believe" Joseph Smith will never be a God. And it is amazing to me that you say "planets" to rule over, when I would say "Galaxy" to rule over.
Ever notice when looking at Galaxies from the Hubble Telescope... that you can not see the center of any of them because the center of all of them is lit with a light so bright? In the center of each Galaxy is where the Glory of the God of that place shines forth. That is what I believe. So you thinking that any one who becomes like our Father in Heaven only rules over a few planets is just silly.
I don't care What mormonism teaches.. I am a hindu and so is my friend, one day two young men came to my friend's house and somehow influenced him to go to the mormon church and after that for solid 5 years my friend was badly brainwashed, he had weird beliefs, he always talked about zion and zionists, he said he'll have 5 children , he became EGOISTIC AND GREEDY, it was difficult to be around that man he'd refute everything I say, The church managed to brainwash him so badly that He became a Nasty man for 5 years straight.. THANK GOD he left the church and reverted to Hinduism...
I HAVE SEEN HELL in those five years being with him..
Whatever mormonism is, NEVER BELIEVE THAT.
So your friend left one system of lies, gave himself to another system of lies, and then reverted back to a system of lies? That's neither a downgrade or promotion. The polytheistic, henotheistic teachings of Hinduism, like Mormonism, are built on the doctrines of demons. And the whole idea of reincarnation is false and absurd. The true way of salvation, God's way, is based on His saving grace. Every human/demonic system is based on works, including Hinduism.
@@peterpulpitpounder ok.. Please name some scriptures related to hinduism.
@@sargonofakkad860 Kaney, let's keep this very simple... The soul is not reborn into another body (human or animal). Reincarnation is a foolish, ludicrous and absurd concept, yet another teaching int his fallen world that belongs on the dung heap of religious falsity. I speak graciously, but Hinduism is a false religion, plain and simple. Do you eat or worship a hamburger? Think about it.
@@peterpulpitpounder just tell me the name of the hindu scriptures.... Tell me the source of ur information..
@@peterpulpitpounder just name any One hindu scripture.. Any 1.
This was disturbingly incorrect. Most points were flat out false and others were totally out of context. I would pray that everyone be truth seekers and not take these claims to be truth. Feel free to reach out to me for any fact checking or clarification. I will actually provide sources and context. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true and offers so much light and truth.
Can you please point out specifically what parts were false and out of context? I'm curious to know which part was not true. I have a general understanding and this video filled in most of the blanks. Can you point out which part specifically was not true so I can learn about it correctly? Thanks!
@@QuillonFrostbane I don't think my comment is working because of the length. I might have to connect with you via email.
Hi George, I don’t have much time to do a full rebuttal of all of the claims here, but I’m happy to try to shed some light. Do you mind if I connect with you via email?
The overarching claim of this video is that the missionaries of the church will lie or omit parts of the gospel, in essence tricking people into joining the church. Its just not true. I was a missionary for two years and serve now as a ward missionary in my community. I’m well versed in the doctrine of the church, as well as the church history. The church is very transparent about its doctrine and its history. See the Joseph Smith Papers project josephsmithpapers.org, Saints history.lds.org/saints?lang=eng&cid=rdb_v_saints_eng, church history topics history.lds.org/, gospel topic essays www.lds.org/topics/essays?lang=eng, and churchofjesuschrist.org which houses all teachings from the church. The church and its members are good, honest people and I would never omit or lie to prospective members. The way she paints the church and its members is totally out of character.
“Your church is wrong. Your beliefs are an abomination to God. Your pastor is a hireling of Satan. Salvation is found only in our church. There is no way to achieve any form of salvation outside of the church.” This is not true. Especially the part about the pastor. Just not true. The church believes in an apostasy and restoration. www.lds.org/topics/apostasy?lang=eng#_
www.mormon.org/site/jesus-christs-church/jesus-church-restored
“They will not tell you that they are wearing temple garments”.
Not true: www.lds.org/media-library/video/2014-01-1460-sacred-temple-clothing?lang=eng
ruclips.net/video/5vvN4qJRBM0/видео.html
Although this is a sacred and personal practice, so it usually isn’t spoken of lightly and frequently.
“Temple garments are meant to protect against evil…YOU”. Nope, not you. Nothing like that is remotely taught. As you will see in the videos above, garments are an outward reflection of an inward commitment to God.
“They will not tell you about their temple rites at all.” Not true. See videos for example: ruclips.net/video/Fd8tVXN9y6Q/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gA6aTiMDYho/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/RzCSrMJhWeQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/xSiwmYzSYTM/видео.html
“Temple worship is taken from Freemasonry and Satanism cults.” Freemasonry was influential in the temple endowment. Satanism cults is completely false. Here is a great reference. www.lds.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng
“Familiar spirits are good and Book of Mormon has a familiar spirit.” I’m not even sure where this comes from. Members of the church believe in the Holy Ghost. www.lds.org/topics/holy-ghost?lang=eng
“Mormon women find salvation only through their husbands.” This is just not true. www.lds.org/topics/women-in-the-church?lang=eng
“Mormon women will be pregnant through all of eternity so they can populate planets.” Not true and not based in much of anything. This is designed by critics based on the idea that God intends for us to become like him. Creating and populating planets is as good as a description of heaven for members of the church as sitting on a cloud playing a harp is for other Christians. Its just not true.
“They intend to become Gods themselves one day.” “Heavenly Father over their own planet”. Heavenly Father over their own planet is not true. Intend to become Gods one day is spun in a half truth way. We believe that we are heirs to God, joint heirs with Christ as the Bible teaches. Here is a great article that would certainly help: www.lds.org/topics/becoming-like-god?lang=eng
“Exaltation is done through works and obeying the church.” Not true. We obey Christ’s commandments because of our love for him. By believing in Jesus and repenting of sins, we are saved by grace. All are saved by Christ in that every person will be resurrected and all are saved from Adam’s transgression. From the Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 10:24 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved.
“They intend to have many wives in heaven, not just one.” No, I intend to have one. This claim comes from the polygamy practiced in the early church. You can read about that here: www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints?lang=eng
“God is one of infinite Gods out there.” Paul said this in the New Testament, but also said “but for us there is one God.”
That is our belief on this. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the one true God.
“They are polytheists” Not the case. I highly recommend listening to this talk to get a better understanding. www.lds.org/general-conference/2007/10/the-only-true-god-and-jesus-christ-whom-he-hath-sent?lang=eng
“They believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three completely different Gods” Half truth. The scriptures teach that they are one God, but separate beings. This should be logical to anyone who has read the Bible. See the talk above for this as well.
“They will not tell you that you were once a spirit child of the pre-existence.” Of course we will! There is even a cool scroll graphic here: www.mormon.org/resources/plan-of-salvation
“Heavenly Father and his multiple wives populated the spirit world.” This is again a half truth. We don’t believe God has multiple wives. We do believe that we are children of God as taught by Jesus and the prophets.
“Baptism for the dead.” “Three levels of heaven”. These are true. Here are some resources: Baptisms for the dead ruclips.net/video/RzCSrMJhWeQ/видео.html What happens after we die?
ruclips.net/video/5-futI4wQ_s/видео.html
“Virgin Mary was not a virgin at all. God came down and had sexual relations with her.” Not true. We believe as the scriptures say that she was a virgin.
“They have taught that Jesus had three wives and children of his own. Jesus was a polygomist according to Mormons.” Not true. All we know of Jesus’ life on earth is recorded in the New Testament.
“God is an exalted man and lives on a planet near the star Kolob”. Half truth. Joseph Smith believed God was an exalted man. Kolob is a metaphor in the scriptures for Christ. Kolob is described as the star being nearest to God and provides light to all of his creations. People spin it to sound weird and scare people away.
“Jesus was Lucifer’s brother.” True. All spirits were children of God.
“Heavenly council vote to determine Jesus or Lucifer as savior.” Not true. God presented his plan of salvation for his children. Lucifer and others rebelled against that plan and were cast out of heaven.
“There are over 100 divisions within mormonism.” I don’t know about this. There are different break off groups, but there is only one Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and those groups are not affiliated.
“They will not tell you that their scriptures contradict.” “Mormons will side with restoration scriptures over the Bible.” I don’t believe that the scriptures contradict, at least not in any significant way. The bible contradicts itself sometimes, but that is easily understood as it was written by different authors.
It might be fair to say members of the church will side with the Book of Mormon over the Bible, but I think more accurately is that they will side with their interpretation of the Bible over someone else’s interpretation of the Bible. All Christians do this.
“Not one scrap of archeological evidence for Book of Mormon.” Sort of. But what evidence would you expect? www.fairmormon.org/archive/publications/archaeological-evidence-and-the-book-of-mormon
“State of Utah has higher than national average abuse, suicide, etc.” This appeals to emotion. Many scientific studies have concluded that this has nothing to do with the church, and actually church attendance significantly decreases all of these categories.
“Joseph Smith was in the occult.” Just not true.
“Joseph Smith money digging” True, but out of context.
“Joseph Smith freemasonry” True, but out of context.
I really enjoyed this book as a biography of Joseph Smith: www.amazon.com/dp/B000XUBEZM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
“First vision accounts.” True. But these aren’t any more contradicting than the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are contradicting. Different emphasis and details in each telling. www.lds.org/topics/first-vision-accounts?lang=eng
I recommend naming the source-where in their literature does it say Jesus was a polygamist ? Or is it just something they believe but nothing is written ? A lot of Mormons don’t even know this stuff
Let me get you that source.... give me a minute....
Jedediah M. Grant said:
This ancient philosopher says they were both John's wives. Paul says, "Mine answer to them that do examine me is this:-.Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas." He, according to Celsus, had a numerous train of wives.
The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were "Mormons."
But if you pass on in their history to seek for uniformity and beauty, you will find some grand flare-ups among them. Look, for instance, at Paul and Peter, disputing and quarrelling with each other....
Orson Hyde remarked:
I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children.
All that I have to say in reply to that charge is this-they worship a Savior that is too pure and holy to fulfil the commands of his Father. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough "to fulfil all righteousness;" not only the righteous law of baptism, but the still more righteous and important law "to multiply and replenish the earth." Startle not at this! for even the Father himself honored that law by coming down to Mary, without a natural body, and begetting a son; and if Jesus begat children, he only "did that which he had seen his Father do."
Jedediah M. Grant, "UNIFORMITY," (7 August 1853) Journal of Discourses 1:346.
Orson Hyde, "The Judgements of God on the United States--The Saints and the World," (18 March 1855) Journal of Discourses 2:210
The Book Jesus the Christ by Talmage says JESUS had possibly 3 wives
If you ever attend a Mormon meeting, it's quite striking how little Jesus is ever mentioned at all. Jesus is almost an afterthought as they spend most time discussing the importance of the organization's growth, money, recruitment efforts, the legacy of Joseph Smith, the leadership, and lessons on how to be more obedient.
Agreed.
Sounds like a cult 😳🙏🌏
Yes, I went to a Mormon funeral. Hardly ever talked about Jesus. It was SUPER uncomfortable..
Hey why don’t you make content anymore? You have great stuff
1. Joseph Smith was a documented convicted charlatan before he came up with the religion of Mormonism.
2. Joseph Smith fulfils every criteria of a false prophet in the bible, in that he introduced the doctrine of other authentic gods
3. Joseph Smith religious translation of the Egyptian scrolls has been proven to be a false translation by scholars.
4. Mormonism teaches that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus. The bible says Jesus is the creator of all things, and any everything that came into existence including Lucifer.
5. Mormonism claims an apostasy of the church took place therefore requiring a restoration. No proof of such an apostasy ever taking place has ever been presented as fact.
6. Joseph Smith c,aims of the South American’s having Jewish ancestry has been proven by modern day DNA testing which has found that Joseph Smith story to be false.
7. Joseph Smith married other men’s wives. In other words, Joseph Smith knowingly married women who were already married to other women. The bible calls this the sin of adultery. Joseph was an adulterer.
8. Mormonism has a deep history of racism disguised as spirituality. Mormon prophets claiming to be hearing from God prophesied that black people for ALL ETERNITY were never allowed to be part of the priesthood. However at the turn of the century, with civil rights taking centre stage and becoming a society issue, the Mormon prophets suddenly claimed a new revelation from God that black people were now allowed the priesthood. Did the Mormon God change the meaning of ‘all eternity’. The Mormon prophets were just false racist prophets.
The list is endless and could go on...
This man left the true Jesus Christ to follow a false idol of his heart. He has turned away from the truth to pursue Mormonism’s false Christ who cannot save him from his sins
*_Joseph Smith was a documented convicted charlatan before he came up with the religion of Mormonism._*
No he wasn't.
*_Joseph Smith fulfils every criteria of a false prophet in the bible, in that he introduced the doctrine of other authentic gods_*
First, In Your Humble Opinion.
Second there is nothing doctrinal about the THEORY of other gods.
*_Joseph Smith religious translation of the Egyptian scrolls has been proven to be a false translation by scholars_*
Sorry, again, wrong.
*_Mormonism teaches that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus. The bible says Jesus is the creator of all things, and any everything that came into existence including Lucifer._*
Which is worse: Jesus is the (spirit) brother of Lucifer (not SATAN), or that Jesus CREATED Satan, thus created evil?
*_No proof of such an apostasy ever taking place has ever been presented as fact_*
Can you give me scientific PROOF of the divinity of Christ Jesus?
*_Joseph Smith c,aims of the South American’s having Jewish ancestry has been proven by modern day DNA testing which has found that Joseph Smith story to be false._*
Wrong. There has never been any DNA testing where this is concerned.
*_Joseph Smith married other men’s wives. In other words, Joseph Smith knowingly married women who were already married to other women. The bible calls this the sin of adultery._* *_Joseph was an adulterer._*
A. if they were legally married, it can't be adultery.
B. Were they MARRIED?
They were SEALED, which might or might not involve legal marriage.
C. DID he "sleep" with them? No evidence that he ever did.
*_Mormonism has a deep history of racism disguised as spirituality_*
In a time when racism was not only rampant, but accepted by most people, the LDS were rather progressive when it came to the races. Back then, most churches were racist. Why do you think that there are churches like the African Methodist Episcopal church?
*_Mormon prophets claiming to be hearing from God prophesied that black people for ALL ETERNITY_*
No, this is not true.
*_at the turn of the century, with civil rights taking centre stage and becoming a society issue_*
At the turn of WHAT century?
The Civil Rights movement wasn't until the mid 1960's, and the revelation on the priesthood was in 1978.
No wonder you can't get church history right! You don't even know American history!
❤ thank you for sharing and standing for TRUTH. I was raised mormon and now born again. I've got many loved ones and friends who are mormon and I feel God has called me to be a witness to them as well as wherever the Holy Ghost leads.
Truth is it’s a Masonic gang stalking cult that get their blessings from meth ghettos also run by masons
They make mentally challenged people feel special then have them act stupid to normal people of society
I was in the church for 53 years and only became a Christian a little over 3 years ago. I
When I questioned the cross they always told me we don’t celebrate it. That’s the only info they would say. I knew there was more behind because I felt deceived.
@tonyawhaley1781 If a family member dies in automobile crash... do you hang a picture on your wall of them dead in the crash?
The world has enough pictures of Christ hanging on the cross that no one forgets how he died. And yet there are still many who will say that many many many men also died on the cross.... so Jesus wasn't the only one.
The LDS choose to show pictures of How he Lived.
It’s not the same. Have you read the Bible the true Bible not the Mormon version? I suggest you visit different religions and make your decision based on that not what you grew up with. The Bible states there should be no idols except him. Morning idolize Joseph Smith not God. You should study the Bible more.
@@MrNirom1 that’s all in good but you aren’t getting his life story. I feel bad you all that only celebrate his. His life, his whole life setting is before he came, while he was here and his death. I bet you don’t have a clue of his last words on the cross. It is finished. I suggest you research his whole life.
@@tonyawhaley1781 Well Tonya I will tell you this. His last words are totally dependent upon which version you read. Right?
Let's see... in Matthew he says that the last words of Jesus are:
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Then Matthew says: 50 ¶ Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
Now let us look and see what Mark has to say:
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
So Matthew and Mark say the same thing. Let us see what Luke has to say:
46 ¶ And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
And now for the last testimony of what his last words were... from John:
30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
So there ya have it Tonya. 4 versions, 2 are the same... 2 are different. So let me now ask you.
You said I bet you don’t have a clue of his last words on the cross. It is finished.
Now you know that that might not have been the last words he said. We really don't know do we????? But I think you would like it to be.. It is finished but as you can see ... that was just one of four.
I live in "Mormon Central" and it kind of drive me nuts. So, having been stuck here for years, I've decided to check them out, see what's going on, and what they believe. They are the nicest, kindest group of people. They talk about the Lord, dress nice, are very family oriented, don't drink alcohol, do not curse, and so on. Their visitor center is centered around a large statue of Jesus Christ. The visitor's center is very pretty, and I really like going there because of the flowers.
They are more Christian like than any church left in this area -- and we are loaded with churches.
However, I am a Christian.
I believe in being nice to them, being kind to them, but cannot get out of them most of these beliefs (in this video). They act Christian, and they claim that they believe the same that we do. There are many sects here, and keeping track of who believes what is almost impossible. For the most part, they seem harmless.
I can't help but wonder how many of them know about these beliefs, or if they would believe the facts on this video if it was told to them. They would probably have to look them up -- and then what would they think? Would they think Mormonism is a lie, or that Christianity is a lie?
They hate the name "Mormon" now and want to be called Christians. They claim that Christ is their center. But I believe Jesus Christ is at the bottom when it comes to holy authorities.
I want to steer them away from Mormonism and towards Christ. Not sure how to do that at the moment, but I'm working on it by trying to understand them a little.
i am an ex mo and i am always so humbled by people like you who are willing to extend yourself to mormons.
i don't see them as you do at all. i personally do not have the patience for them that you do. but that doesn't mean i don't feel their pain.
for one thing, you can be sure they are putting on a big show for you, for other mormons and for themselves.
google suicide rate in mormon utah, and google prescription drug abuse to get a good idea of what the mormons really are.
happy homes? google abuse.
how they can come home after singing love at home in church, and hate other people in their own family.
believe me, i know what mormonism is. i was one. they are a desperately hurting people and they need jesus.
we know without the regeneration of the holy spirit, men are left to their own devices. and there is no jesus in mormonism.
so there you are in utah, and you can see mormonism with your own eyes. did you ever wonder how it got so strong? wiki danites/mormon assassins.
in the days of brigham young they actually had assassins who would kill people who tried to leave.
wash. d c sent general johnston to utah to make them stop all the murder and theft.
well you can know for sure, that however bad they were to "gentiles" they were many times worse to their own people.
there is a great exodus taking place behind the zion curtain. though you might think it's glacially slow, it's more than it was when i was a boy.
so what do we do? plant seeds. that's all. plant seeds.
don't expect to read a new book or find a new piece of crushing historical evidence. that won't happen.
but if your heart is right and you plant seeds you'll be on the right path.
I'm happy to hear this. I went to a friend's house recently and ran into couple young kids probably in their late teens. They were going door to door spreading their word all I did was listen. They were really nice. We exchanged differences in our beliefs but I looked more into it after. Well to make it short I just don't see me being Mormon. I hope the best for them young kids.
The real issue is that you think you can learn these things through random sites, anyone can tell you anything about their experiences or what their taught even if it’s not true.
"The real issue is that you think you can learn these things through random sites, anyone can tell you anything about their experiences or what their taught even if it’s not true."
The real issue could also be that honest people with honest experiences of being in the Mormon cult and being strong and fortunate enough to break free of their mind control and shaming techniques could be putting their experiences forward on these random sites and Mormon members are claiming their experiences are just isolated events or just untrue.
I object to being called a liar.
There is a promise from the LDS leaders that if the you can prove that the Book of Mormon is false then everything in the church would be so. It’s the keystone of the Mormon church. With all the evidence coming out proving the content, names in the book, land marks in the book etc to be accurate, how was it that a kid was able to make all this up with little to no information of the holy land during his times without the Internet / google maps? All a matter of opinion. Anyone can twist anything being good or not to their advantage and make it sound disgusting or evil. A lot of what she mentions was so bad about the LDS church comes from the Bible. So I guess in her opinion the Bible is evil too and teaches false things
Here is information on the star that are on the LDS temples
“Satanists were using the inverted star before it was officially copyrighted, but the symbol’s early association with Satanism still only trails back to the mid-1800s to a man named Eliphas Levi who didn’t refer to the symbol in his published works until 1854. Joseph Smith died in 1844. Inverted pentagrams on Mormon temples were around well before the symbol became popularly associated with evil.”
thirdhour.org/blog/faith/lds-temples/inverted-stars-mormon-temples/
Here is informations of archeology of the Book of Mormon.
ruclips.net/video/5yjKSaegLJg/видео.html
A lot of people give up researching in this “on demand world we live in”, giving up the search too fast to the first opinion we hear being it a positive or a negative opinion instead of going above and beyond and finding out for themselves if it’s right for them or not. If you dig through negative material your outcome will be as such and the same can be said for the exact opposite, look for the good and you will find it but to have knowledge one must study both sides and determine which one outweighs the other. There is more good than bad in the LDS faith but of course that is my opinion.
Trust me it was way worse back in the times of the Bible to be a disciple of Christ than it is today and if you weren’t a ordained priest there was no way you had any part in the ordinances in those times. Women had no say on really anything in those times many of whom were considered slaves.
Abraham had many wifes, does this mean Abraham was in false standing with god? Polygamy in the Bible? I feel like people always attack the early LDS church for this even tho it has happened all throughout the Old Testament. Here is the info. Knowledge is power.
Abraham had a principal wife, Sarah (Genesis 11:29), and two secondary wives, Hagar and Keturah (Genesis 16:3; 25:1).
Abraham’s first wife was Sarah. She alone would possess legal rights and social standing as Abraham’s wife, and only her child Isaac would become the rightful heir to the family inheritance.
Sarah, who was unable to bear children, gave her Egyptian servant, Hagar, to Abraham as a concubine, although the Bible also calls Hagar Abraham’s wife (Genesis 16:1-4). A concubine was a woman, often a servant or slave, who lived with a man as if she were his wife, having sexual relations with him and bearing his children. When one’s wife was unable to produce an heir, taking a concubine was a common solution in ancient times. But a concubine held “secondary wife status,” lower than that of the primary wife. The concubine’s position, while subordinate to her master and mistress, was permanent. Concubines were provided for and protected as part of the family.
I hope this helps someone look into more sources than just anti material floating around RUclips
@@Xexy2388 You missed the entire point of the biography of Abraham and Sarah. God does not condone polygamy. We are still seeing the consequences of Sarah not trusting God. She couldn't wait for Him to fulfill His promises so she decided to step in and orchestrate things herself with disastrous consequences. Just because the Bible records history as it happened, does not mean God says it's acceptable.
That's why YOU DO THE RESEARCH. You always double check your sources! The Bible even says always question everything!
In 1921, Doctrines and Covenants removed, "Lectures on Faith". Why?
The Lectures were published in 1835 as the Doctrine portion of The Doctrine and Covenants of the Church of the Latter Day Saints. The Lectures were suggested to be added to this version of the D&C by a committee appointed on September 24, 1834 by a general assembly of the church to arrange the doctrines and revelations of the church into a single volume. That committee consisted of Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, Sidney Rigdon, and Frederick G. Williams. The general body of the church accepted the committee's compilation on August 17, 1835 as "the doctrine and covenants of their faith, by a unanimous vote." So if Joseph Smith was on the committee approving it, and he's the end-all be-all prophet, why would the Docrines be removed and furthermore, without a committee vote or explanation why?
I didn’t know husbands could be there own gods. (Is that what they teach?) This was the first original sin was it not. Man wanting to be god
janell malinsky we do not teach that
telions gameing we don’t
Yea we dont teach that
yep, thats a nope. I have never heard of it. Same with palimony.
There was no "man wanting to be god". The serpent told Eve that they would be AS the gods, knowing good and evil, which was true (see Gen. 3:22).
Thank you for making this video. I grew up Mormon, and it's interesting to me how much I didn't even know about the Mormon church when I was there (which I think is because they were giving me the 'Christian' version of the Mormon church) and I think anyone saying you're lying or sound angry in this video (which you don't sound angry at all in my opinion) were probably fed the same watered down Mormonism I was also taught. A couple things to add that you didn't mention in this video are as follows:
The Book of Mormon also says that Jesus would be born in Jerusalem in Alma 7:10 if I remember right. (Though the Book of Mormon is the most famous and plagiarized fanfiction on earth so that is part of why there are parts that sound very similar to the Bible)
In Joseph Smith's translation of Exodus 33: 20, he disproves his entire religion by saying that no man has ever or will ever see the face of God and live. And this was the bible verse that made my dad leave the only religion he'd ever had in his life at that point. The verse is God talking to Moses in the burning bush and telling Moses that no man has ever seen the face of God and lived.
I had never seen a crucifix (or cross that someone was wearing) until I was in middle school when one of my older friends in the Mormon church told me that we don't focus on the sad and horrible injustice that happened to Jesus, we only focus on the happiness after.
I had actually watched The Passion of the Christ when it came out on DVD and it meant nothing to me, I didn't know who Jesus was, or what the movie meant at all, which looking back on all of it now just breaks my heart, especially now that I'm Catholic (which by the way, for anyone who wants to talk badly about the Catholic church, that's fine they have done horrible things no one's denying that (I actually found myself loving the Catholic Church even more because the second the Diocese I'm with received any reports of a Priest I know molesting young boys, they immediately took action, excommunicated him, and have asked if anyone has any more evidence to come forward - the Mormon Church, on the other hand, is still trying to say they've never done anything wrong) but remember the history while you cry about the books in the bible - you wouldn't have your bible at all without the Catholic Church who put it together first and then it was translated into other languages by Martin Luther (but he couldn't have translated it if there wasn't already an existing bible). The word Catholic, derived from the Greek, means "universal." meaning no matter where you are in the world, if you have a Roman Catholic Missile and are attending mass, you will know what the readings are no matter where you are in the world and can read the readings in your own language (sounds a lot like that verse talking about every nation, race, people, and tongue in Revelations).
Godan B. Hinkley said in General Conference that the Jesus Christ of the Mormon church is not the same as the Jesus Christ who saves from every sin that the Christians believe in.
When you said there are about a hundred different sects of Mormonism, my very first thought was "That seems like a low estimate."
Again, I wanted to say thank you for this video and for spreading the truth of what the Mormon church believes, not the lies they want the world to believe about themselves. I hope you never let the haters stop you from spreading the truth, because at the end of the day, it is the truth, and the truth can't be changed no matter how much they want it to.
@janessaburlingham2489 The Book of Mormon does NOT say that Jesus would be born in Jerusalem. Did you actually go and read Alma 7:10? Here, let me share it with you:
10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.
So... tell me... when you look at a map of Jerusalem... where is Bethlehem? From the center of Jerusalem to the center of Bethlehem it is 5.5 miles
If you were to look at the time period in the Book of Mormon that was being written about in Alma... you will see that it has been about 530 years earlier that Lehi had arrived in this new land. These people 530 years later never saw Jerusalem or Bethlehem. When they say AT Jerusalem... they were quite accurate never having seen a map of the Holy Land. But they were told where they came from.
The Jesus of the Christian world is a triune God. That means that they say the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are ONE God made of the same substance. That is NOT true. They are three distinct and individual beings. So Gordon B. Hinkley was right. Their understanding of Jesus is behind the times. They are trying to rectify the God of the Old Testament with the God of the New Testament. Before Jesus came to earth... the ONLY God they knew was called Jehovah. Then Jesus is born, grows up and he is telling people he is Jehovah. So if he is the God of the Old Testament... who is this God that is his Father? This was a problem for the Christians. They did not have any explanation but they now had more than ONE God. So 325 years after the death of Jesus... 326 of the Bishops got together and voted on the creation of who Jesus was in relationship to the Father. 2 of the Bishops did not agree and they were excommunicated from the Church. And what did they agree on??
That there is only ONE God... and they are all made of the same substance. The Christian world states: There is but one only living and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions.
We do NOT believe the same way the Christian world does. We know more than they do. We have been given more light and knowledge. And yet... like in the time of Christ... people rejected the further light and knowledge that Jesus gave to the Jews.
As a former Mormon and now Christian I think you did an excellent job in this presentation. It was thorough and factual. It took me quite a while to discover piece by piece all that you brought out in this presentation. Excellent. Thanks.
@Leigh Yorgason Seriously? How longer were you LDS? 2 weeks? What piece did you find so convincing? LDS wear secret underwear? They state the truth that Bishops & Stake Presidents don't get paid for what they do? Please.. enlighten me what she told the truth about.
that's wonderful. I was born a mormon in 1975 but in 1978 at 3 years old. I became christian with the help of the sears catalog. the catalog had photos of adults wearing normal underwear and I knew my parents didn't wear normal underwear. I made a promise to never wear the underwear at that age. God put that in my path. Bless you
@@babsfocker7751 Yes...from the mind of a 3 year old. They should be making all of the decisions of the world. NOT
Hurray babfocker, for the Sears catalogue!
what difference Heavensgate and Lds?
"They're not going to tell you anything to do with their church, anything to do with their doctrine, or anything to do with Mormonism and their lifestyle."
I took the lessons and was not told any of that.
@@danreich1377 I was an LDS missionary. I know what was in "the Discussions". They may have changed significantly, but I doubt it. The Discussions DEFINITELY contained fundamental information about the church, its doctrine, and the Mormon "lifestyle" (there isn't polygamy anymore, so maybe she meant "the Word of Wisdom"?). Granted, there are some "deeper" doctrines that were only hinted at, but if you didn't have differences of opinion with Mormonism by the time you got baptized, you weren't listening or those missionaries weren't doing their duty.
Lie
T or F - - when Mormon Prophets banned blacks from the Priesthood.... were blacks then banned from Polygamy... and banned from Heaven aka Living with Heavenly Father ?
Bonus points - how can you spot a Lamanite today ? is it skin color ?
@@byronofcalgary6985 1) I am not defending Mormonism. I am defending Truth. 2) If your expectation is that Mormon Missionaries would teach candidates for membership EVERYTHING EVER taught by a Mormon authority, that's a bit unrealistic, isn't it? 3) I do not deny that Mormon leadership may be trying to sweep outdated teachings under the rug in an effort to be more ecumenical. 4) My comment is absolutely true. Her claim is absolutely false. 5) You can find for sale copies of the Missionary Discussions and the Discussions for New Members. I also recommend the Missionary Pal by Keith Marston and Day of Defense by A. Melvin McDonald (which seems to have been turned into a movie?), though those two are unofficial examples of Mormon polemics. Clearly, I know more about Mormonism than she does. I would also recommend Hugh Nibley's series of lectures, "Time Vindicates the Prophets", found in book form as "The World and the Prophets". Now thank me for my time!
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS OUT THERE
There is a promise from the LDS leaders that if the you can prove that the Book of Mormon is false then everything in the church would be so. It’s the keystone of the Mormon church. With all the evidence coming out proving the content, names in the book, land marks in the book etc to be accurate, how was it that a kid was able to make all this up with little to no information of the holy land during his times without the Internet / google maps? All a matter of opinion. Anyone can twist anything being good or not to their advantage and make it sound disgusting or evil. A lot of what she mentions was so bad about the LDS church comes from the Bible. So I guess in her opinion the Bible is evil too and teaches false things
Here is information on the star that are on the LDS temples
“Satanists were using the inverted star before it was officially copyrighted, but the symbol’s early association with Satanism still only trails back to the mid-1800s to a man named Eliphas Levi who didn’t refer to the symbol in his published works until 1854. Joseph Smith died in 1844. Inverted pentagrams on Mormon temples were around well before the symbol became popularly associated with evil.”
thirdhour.org/blog/faith/lds-temples/inverted-stars-mormon-temples/
Here is informations of archeology of the Book of Mormon.
ruclips.net/video/5yjKSaegLJg/видео.html
A lot of people give up researching in this “on demand world we live in”, giving up the search too fast to the first opinion we hear being it a positive or a negative opinion instead of going above and beyond and finding out for themselves if it’s right for them or not. If you dig through negative material your outcome will be as such and the same can be said for the exact opposite, look for the good and you will find it but to have knowledge one must study both sides and determine which one outweighs the other. There is more good than bad in the LDS faith but of course that is my opinion.
Trust me it was way worse back in the times of the Bible to be a disciple of Christ than it is today and if you weren’t a ordained priest there was no way you had any part in the ordinances in those times. Women had no say on really anything in those times many of whom were considered slaves.
Abraham had many wifes, does this mean Abraham was in false standing with god? Polygamy in the Bible? I feel like people always attack the early LDS church for this even tho it has happened all throughout the Old Testament. Here is the info. Knowledge is power.
Abraham had a principal wife, Sarah (Genesis 11:29), and two secondary wives, Hagar and Keturah (Genesis 16:3; 25:1).
Abraham’s first wife was Sarah. She alone would possess legal rights and social standing as Abraham’s wife, and only her child Isaac would become the rightful heir to the family inheritance.
Sarah, who was unable to bear children, gave her Egyptian servant, Hagar, to Abraham as a concubine, although the Bible also calls Hagar Abraham’s wife (Genesis 16:1-4). A concubine was a woman, often a servant or slave, who lived with a man as if she were his wife, having sexual relations with him and bearing his children. When one’s wife was unable to produce an heir, taking a concubine was a common solution in ancient times. But a concubine held “secondary wife status,” lower than that of the primary wife. The concubine’s position, while subordinate to her master and mistress, was permanent. Concubines were provided for and protected as part of the family.
I hope this helps someone look into more sources than just anti material floating around RUclips
@@Xexy2388 "all the evidence proving the content"? What evidence? We can compare the Bible with ancient manuscripts when people say it was mistranslated you can compare and see no, no it isn't. Can I do that with a single book out of the bom? Can I see the plates? Ancient papyri?... What content has been proven? Where are all the remains of ancient civilizations? Btw the book of Mormon disagrees with LDS teaching. Moroni says one eternal God. But that's not true according to LDS theology. And regardless of when the pentagram became trademark of satanists why is it still on temples?
Different Jesus, different God, different gospel. And that's fine just be honest about it. Well it's not fine but you can believe whatever you want.
We believe in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be the word of god and if you do more research into the Bible there are a lot of things that is missing or taken out of the Bible, also through time edited to meet the needs of the Catholic Church. Not sure where you are getting your information. This has been proven and isn’t something new, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t contain true information. You can look it up and if you need some help finding this information I’ll be glad to assist, this is why so many different sects of religions have come about due to the lack of interpretation and parts of the Bible that have been missing and or mistranslated. If that wasn’t the case why aren’t we all catholic? Aren’t they the ones that had the Bible for hundred of years? Fun fact the word “bible” means many books and isn’t just one book so I love how people say that there can’t be another book even tho prior to the Bible there were records from different prophets and apostles or in other words several books. Just because Satanism copyrighted a symbol that was once a symbol for good ( the star is just part of the story)
One of the men who worked on the Nauvoo temple described some of the exterior symbolism, saying that “The order of architecture was unlike anything in existence; it was purely original, being a representation of the Church, the Bride, the Lamb’s wife. John the Revelator, in the 12 chapter [and] first verse of [the book of Revelation,] says, ‘And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.’ This is portrayed in the beautifully cut stone of this grand temple,” according to Fair Mormon.
This woman “clothed with the sun” is symbolic of Christ’s church, according to JST Revelation 12:1,7. Reflecting this, symbols of the moon on the Nauvoo temple appear below the sun symbols, which in turn appear below these inverted star symbols (which are on top, symbolic of the crown).
The morning star
In an 1880 edition of Deseret Evening News it says, speaking of the Logan, Utah, temple, “Carved upon the keystone is a magnificent star, called the Star of the Morning.” This inverted “morning star” is located on the East side of the temple (the sun rises in the East), but what does the morning star represent?
I can also say the same about certain things in the Bible for example Show me the Ten Commandments plates (Art of the covenant) , show me evidence of all of the ancient scripts from the Bible, where are they now? Show me evidence of the flood in Noah’s time that’s in the Bible?
Also funny enough for people who are so hung up on symbol we all know from the Bible that Satan appeared to Adam and Eve as a snake 🐍 but it’s funny that in the time of Mose, Moses staff turned into a snake which symbolize Christ and Moses snake eat the other snakes and was held up to the people in those times and all who looked upon the staff/ snake and saw the symbol of the snake stood for Christ.
Funny that there are many ancient cultures that have the symbols of the snake in parts of central and southern americas that symbolized Christ. Many will be lead away by the precepts of men. Don’t believe in the first information you get on the internet or by a someone’s opinion on RUclips go find multiple information in multiple places get information and do the research. People are to quick on believing on the first source of information they get. For example people stumbled on anti material about the church before getting to know the church or the people and then believe that the church must be evil because that’s why I just read and heard instead of reading the Bom all the way through finding out all the information, positive or not and making a educated opinion rather than a quick opinion without knowing all the facts. Sad “on demand” world we live in.
@@Xexy2388 there is absolutely evidence of an ancient worldwide food even according to secular scientists. No we don't have the plates the commandments were written on. We do have the dead sea scrolls, and a massive amount of ancient Hebrew and Greek manuscripts confirming the new testament. There is physical archaeological evidence of the civilizations in the bible. There are maps and real places that can and have been confirmed to exist. There is none of this for bom with the sort of exception of the book of breathing's.
Still, the book of Mormon is more Christian, again, than Mormon theology. It's still not all I've said that people have issue with. It's the fact that about the time of the civil rights movement God gave"revelation" to the church changing his mind about black men and the priesthood even though Brigham says they'd never hold priesthood.
LDS theology flat out opposes what the Bible says about God. So the argument about don't just hear the first thing you say doesn't really work, at least not with me. I would invite YOU to not just let the church do your thinking for you. If it's true, don't be afraid to research. Know what I mean?
Also, feelings don't equate to Truth.
"Father, thy Word is Truth."
Search things out for yourself, and don't settle with vague, tired arguments. God loves you and wants you to know the Truth
Quit the church and get a 10% pay raise
speak up and her closer to your mic!!!!!
They didn't have a temple to have temple garments till years after her dies. Do research
@@auraofdeath2140 There was no research done in this video except from a website that also gives no research. Laugh out loud
joe morris actually, Joseph Smith did own garments at the time of his death. The morning of his martyrdom, he received revelation that he shouldn’t put them on because he was going to die that day. In addition to a reminder of our promises to God, garments are a protection. Not against nonmembers, that’s silly. But I know someone who got into a car crash a few months back. Suffice it to say that he should have died. But he didn’t have a single scratch anywhere that his garments were covering. I’ve heard of so many miracles like that, that it’s hard to believe we’re just being fed lies by our leaders. I know that my church is the true church of God and nobody can take that away from me. I know this was a really long answer to a really simple misunderstanding but I want all the good-intentioned people that are trying to make me lose faith to know that their slander isn’t going to work on me.
I joined the lds church in 2005, since I've suffered some of the worst events of my life, I know the truth now, I won't be able to withdraw from them officially because they did enough damage but Jesus is with me, thx for sharing ❤️
They will never remove me from the books or excommunicate me. I have asked and tried... I just am nice to them when they come around... that way they don't want a blood atonement anymore.
@Phoebe Grace Curiosity:
Question: why is so important to have the name removed?
Can you simply stop going. Sorry, I just want to know.
@@office801 Yes, you can just stop going, but as long you are on their rolls you will not be free, spiritually or physically. When you join the LDS church you have OBEY what ever the Bishop says and God help you if you don’t. It started out wonderfully warm and fuzzy and turned into my worst nightmare on many levels. Spiritual, physical, financial, health and put me in a situation of nearly being murdered by a psychotic serial killer. I am not exaggerating. The last straw was when I was told that I still owned and was emotionally attached to too many nice things from my past and I must sell them and now live a sparse life including getting rid of my pets and I could not put in a vegetable garden and small chicken coop on my property that I own free and clear. If I didn’t obey the bishop who was a lawyer by day, with regards to this demand, he would have me committed to an institution for elderly destitute people. I am a well educated widow of 62 who has all my mental faculties about me. That was when I demanded to be removed from the church roles. If I actually accomplish getting my name off the rolls then when I die, my spirit will be sent to “Outer Darkness “(Mormon version of hell) where I will never see my husband or family again. And in this life time I will be considered an apostate and must be shunned by other Mormons. So basically a clerk in Salt Lake City can, with a few key strokes undo what Jesus Christ did for me on the cross. I don’t think so!
Same here, but be very careful. I have been where you are and I am telling you that it can and will get worse if you accept their help, the strings attached to that help will tie you up and bind you in every way. There’s other places to get help that don’t come with strings. The food pantries at real churches may not compare to the storehouse, but you will find that freedom is a very good taste. I promise you.
And what about those who don’t suffer? Do you think if you hadn’t suffered you’d still be a mormon?
Infinite pregnancies...That's a kind of hell I would not wish on my worst enemy...The magic undergarments part had me in stitches, that's some grade a Scientology bull level.
Actually it's a personal choice left to the couple. Some people just "leave it to God" and have no qualms about not using protection. It's in handbooks that a couple should only have the kids they can afford and care for
@@HosCreates the fact that it is even in a handbook is just ridiculous. Why does a church need to comment on the size of your family?
@@justamom863 because people asked so they put it in there so personal bias doesn't affect people's council to others.
@@HosCreates if the "let the children come" slogan would never have come from an LDS prophet then it would not be in the handbook to begin with. Surely you remember the "let the children come" speech?
"Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" is the one command from God that mankind has had no problem obeying. At almost 8 billion, I think the mission is pretty well accomplished. Catholics don't see this, however. And of course it's different with Mormons because they believe you have to populate a whole new earth with your progeny in the next life.
When you take all the facts an stand back it's obvious, here was a man who saw an opportunity to manipulate those around him and give himself the green light to have any woman he wanted, have anyone killed he wanted (blood atonement) get whatever he wanted at any time in the name of god, and all the while be showered with praise and admiration. A master of manipulation through guilt, fear, an control.
First, I am no longer LDS (by choice). But 2 mins into your video and I'm already losing track of the inaccuracies. You seem like a nice person but you are damaging your own credibility by sharing half truths and flat out incorrect information. Mormonism is no better or worse than any other denomination. If you disagree on doctrine fine. Present a substantive argument in opposition. But simply being divisive isn't going to help your case. Especially when those investigating the LDS Church learn about, what will appear to them, to be deceptive tactics on your part.
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
Not sure why you feel as though I've said anything inaccurate.. specifically in the first 2 mins. But I backed up this entire video with LDS sources. It's all true.
EVERYTHING this girl has said has been 100% true. I applaud all her research/hard work.
I would say that it makes sense that Mormonism is so closely related with Christianity and on the surface can look similar until you dig a bit deeper. "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:14.
Daayyumm ! Elbow from the top rope ! Lol
How deep should I dig? Because I've been digging now for over 40 years, and the more I dig the more I know that I am right where God wants me. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.
@@lindalds I would ask how you came to that conclusion. I am genuinely interested to know what your journey has been. That is all I will say now because the RUclips comment section can be a whack place sometimes. I hope you have a good day.
@@amyrietveld3017 when I was growing up, we went to church EVERY Sunday. We belonged to a United Methodist church, but as a teenager, I would attend churches of my friends occasionally.
I started reading the Bible about then. But it seemed to me that what was taught didn't seem to match up with what I read in the Bible. I would sit in church and figure out in my head the things that the truly Biblical church would believe.
After I moved out on my own at age 21, I started thinking about churches I had never been to, and even other religions.
Then I ran into an old friend, who I was told had become a Mormon. When I saw her I asked her about it and she invited to a young adult singles family home evening at the Institute of Religion. So I went and they introduced me to the missionaries. I started taking the "discussions" and within the first few minutes, I knew I had found the most Biblical church. I had no problem accepting the Book of Mormon or Joseph Smith or living prophets.
Yes, I had some questions, but got entirely sensible answers that I had no problem accepting.
That was over 40 years ago, and even though we did go through some short periods of inactivity (not my choice), my testimony never wavered.
I hope this helps. Ask me anything.
@@lindalds Thank you for sharing. Can you give me examples on how the LDS church is the most Biblical? I am curious as to what you mean when you say that.
I was once visited by two fine young missionaries. I was invited to join the church. I asked them for help in suderstanding the Book of Mormon. I asked, "Do I understand that the Book of Mormon is the latest information from God for the human rase?" "Yes." I asked them to help me understand Mosiah 13:16-19. "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy... The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." They had no answer for me. I asked them why they did not follow the "latest" information from God for the human race. Answer, "We would get in trouble if we did that." I told them that my church followed that commandment, how could I join a church that only followed 9 out of 10 commandments. I prayed for them.
This is so sad to watch. I feel sorry that you feel the need to attack the LDS church. I am a proud and deeply converted member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. LDS general conference is coming up next weekend! I hope that many of you will take the time to watch it and see what the Church really is about.
hey, I was the same way about 2 years ago, then I took a step back an analyzed things. Sure, the church teaches generally good things that will make you happy, but ultimately it can not be true (or highly unlikely anyway) as the claim of it can not be verified. For this, consider a simple experiment.
Since 2 people from two different religions can pray about something and both feel a confirmation of their beliefs, while it is not possible for them both to be correct, then we must conclude faith is not a good measure of truth. Since faith is really the only way to justify belief in a religion, that means, believing in the church (or any church for this matter) is an act that can not be justified, thus since it can not ever be shown to be a justifiable action, it makes no sense to believe in one.
This is a hard pill to swallow but is ultimately the logical conclusion.
Ana, @Cultish will be at the general conference. Please find them and have a conversation. They are very kind and respectful.
This sounds like a twisted version of religion that equals satanism at the end.
It’s not even true like what 😂
Satan is a title of the God aligned angel who supervises those who have been slighted by God. Wake the fuck up
I was born into the Mormon Church....coming from pioneer stock. They don't tell us a lot of this stuff either. The Church whitewashes EVERYTHING! Thanks for all you are doing!
"I was born into the Mormon Church....coming from pioneer stock. They don't tell us a lot of this stuff either. The Church whitewashes EVERYTHING! Thanks for all you are doing!"
Thank you for coming forward. I - along with many others really appreciate coming out of the LDS church must have been really difficult, but so rewarding.
My own story would make ears curl.
There's two sisters that come to my house and one of them got a crush on me what can I do to get rid of them
If she is hot, flirt!
It's interesting how the Mormon belief is always changing, but the bible stays the same. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever
WHY SO MANY TEXTUAL CHANGES IN THE BOOK OF MORMON ???
These are changes which ALTER the MEANING of the scriptures; these are NOT spelling or grammatical corrections, but TEXTUAL changes; there are many hundreds of them, refer:
ruclips.net/video/si0sl6Vvd1k/видео.html
carm.org/changes-to-book-of-mormon
mit.irr.org/changes-latter-day-scripture
ruclips.net/video/si0sl6Vvd1k/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ZVeU03R025I/видео.html
www.mormonhandbook.com/home/5000-changes-to-the-book-of-mormon.html
AND
www.fairmormon.org/answers/Question:_Why_were_textual_changes_made_to_the_Book_of_Mormon_over_the_years_after_it_was_first_published%3F
Here are a few actual EXAMPLES of textual changes:
Doctrinal Changes ~ GODHEAD ~ Changes were made to the Book of Mormon after Joseph Smith changed his doctrine from Monotheism to Polytheism.........
1830 original edition
1 Nephi 11:18
And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin which thou seest is the mother of God after the manner of the flesh.
>>>1837 and subsequent editions
And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh.
1830 original edition
1 Nephi 11:21
And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father.
>>>1837 and subsequent editions
And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father!
1830 original edition
1 Nephi 11:32
And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people, yea, the everlasting God was judged of the world.
>>>1837 and subsequent editions
And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Son of the everlasting God was judged of the world.
1830 original edition
1 Nephi 13:40
...that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world...
>>>1837 and subsequent editions
...that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father, and the Savior of the world...
RACISM ~ The church made changes to the Book of Mormon to soften its racism:
1830 original edition
2 Nephi 30:6
And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people.
>>>1981 edition
And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a pure and a delightsome people.
CHANGES TO CHAPTER HEADINGS: :
1981 edition
2 Nephi, ch. 5
The Nephites separate themselves from the Lamanites, keep the law of Moses, and build a temple-Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness, and become a scourge unto the Nephites.
>>>2010 online edition
The Nephites separate themselves from the Lamanites, keep the law of Moses, and build a temple-Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness cut off from the presence of the Lord, are cursed, and become a scourge unto the Nephites.
1981 edition
Mormon, ch. 5
Mormon again leads the Nephite armies in battles of blood and carnage-The Book of Mormon shall come forth to convince all Israel that Jesus is the Christ-The Lamanites shall be a dark, filthy, and loathsome people-They shall receive the gospel from the Gentiles in the latter days.
>>>2010 online edition
Mormon again leads the Nephite armies in battles of blood and carnage-The Book of Mormon will come forth to convince all Israel that Jesus is the Christ-The Lamanites shall be a dark, filthy, and loathsome people Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites will be scattered, and the Spirit will cease to strive with them-They will receive the gospel from the Gentiles in the latter days.
ALTERABLE DECREES ~ The evolving doctrines of the church necessitated editing, for a period, the Book of Mormon's teaching that God's decrees are unalterable.
1830 original edition
Alma 29:4
I ought not to harrow up in my desires the firm decree of a just God, for I know that he granteth unto men according to their desire, whether it be unto death or unto life; yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable, according to their wills, whether they be unto salvation or unto destruction.
>>>1837 edition until 1981
I ought not to harrow up in my desires the firm decree of a just God, for I know that he granteth unto men according to their desire, whether it be unto death or unto life; yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, according to their wills, whether they be unto salvation or unto destruction.
NOTE: LDS leaders RE-inserted the omitted words (yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable) into all editions since 1981. It is possible Joseph Smith deleted this portion of the verse because it conflicted with a revelation he claimed to receive in 1831 found in Doctrine & Covenants 56:4,5 "Wherefore I, the Lord, command and revoke, as it seemeth me good; and all of this upon the heads of the rebellious, saith the Lord. Wherefore, I revoke the commandment which was given unto my servants …" The eight words were later re-inserted into the text of Alma 29:4 and are present there today.
These are just a few examples of the hundreds of TEXTUAL changes in the Book of Mormon; changes which ALTER the meaning of the scriptures. They cannot be denied --- they are a matter of FACT, of record, of history. I own a copy of the original 1830 printing, and a later edition, just to satisfy myself personally.
The changes are deeply shameful, and make a laughing stock of Joseph Smith's original claim "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on the earth." (History of the Church, Vol. 4, Page 461)
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Spaseebo awesome post!
I still have the many different translations of the Bible I have in English. They do vary. The Jews have a version of the Old Testament that differs from the one the New Testament always quoted, and when we find New Testament texts the Greek varies from one book of the Bible to the next. Some current Bibles are based on comparing the texts that continue to be found and try to correspond to the earliest texts found.
I teach many LDS children and I really wish these parents would stop naming their boys Brigham. I wish they would change the name of BYU but I highly doubt that will happen.
Ok so what is the problem here?
As a new convert to the church, I would like to say that I was told many of the things that you identified in the first third of the video before my baptism by members of the church. Specifically having to do with the after life. These things are not a secret.
There are a few things that you claim are doctrines that actually are not considered doctrine.
The Bible, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price are the scriptural books of the church. Not Journal of Discourses. That means the Adam God theory and the theory that God the Father impregnated Mary through physical intercourse are false.
I can understand that you might have a personal distaste for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but please be sure to fact check before you upload.
Have a blessed day.
I fully sourced this video out with Latter Day Saint sources:
ruclips.net/video/EF9lIlK9j8k/видео.html
And you are mistaken in your claim that the virgin birth denial is not official accepted teachings. It's been taught in tons of official church curriculum, has been said in First Presidency Statements, official teachings. For example, Ezra Taft Benson taught it very clearly in Come Unto Christ, pg. 4, "Five Marks of the Divinity of Jesus Christ", Ensign, Dec. 2001, 8. and also The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, pg. 7. Joseph Fielding Smith taught it in MANY official places including Doctrines of Salvation 1:18.
Oh man, I have literal pages upon pages of sources for every single point. You should definitely find all of this out for yourself before claiming you have all the answers. Mormonism is an endless maze of hidden teachings and "accepted doctrine." Hope you search for yourself!
The true God of the Bible loves you very much. I pray you seek and find Him!
I do not believe I ever once claimed to have all of the answers.
We are all living and learning, no one individual will ever know everything that there is to know on this mortal plane: it just is not possible. Please do not put words in my mouth.
I also do not appreciate your condescending tone. I between work and school, I dedicate all remaining time to the study of theology - of both church doctrine and of other faiths because I find theology as a field to be fascinating. I did not take lessons with the missionaries until I'd studied everything out and learned what was true and what wasn't for myself.
My beliefs and religious practices in no way restrict you and your personal freedoms, so I do not understand why you are so concerned with tearing down other people's faith to make yourself feel better.
No good comes from that. Faith is a personal choice and I support everyone's freedom to find out what they believe and to practice their faith however they see fit as long as their faith doesn't encroach upon the freedoms of anyone else.
@@rachelkennedy6097 I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. Sorry if that was implied. I just meant that before stating that something isn't true, you should search it out, that's all. I'm not trying to be condescending at all. Sometimes with written text, we read things in a tone they're not written. I'm writing this calmly and kindly. I have no desire to be rude to you! The reason I have this channel and speak out against Mormonism is that my Bible teaches of a real and literal Hell and says that whoever is not saved, Biblically, by placing their faith and trust in the one and only true Jesus Christ for the Salvation of their souls, will be eternally tormented in the Lake of Fire where there will be weaping and gnashing of teeth. Mormonism contradicts the Bible completely and preaches a totally different gospel. Because I know this, I am concerned for the souls of the Latter Day Saint people. I have around 30 videos so far on my channel and they discuss the beliefs of the LDS and I give sources for every single point I make. I read from Mormon Scripture, direct quotes and teachings from prophets and apostles and lots from the official website, lds.org. As a Christian, all that matters is sharing the true Gospel and telling people how they can have a real relationship with God and have eternal security through Biblical Salvation. I refuse to "leave people alone" who I believe wholeheartedly are in a false belief system. I want Mormons to truly get saved and to know Christ. That's my mission. I want that for you too! I'm not being condescending. I'm being honest. I will be praying for you as you continue to study and seek truth. I mean that. And we are not enemies. I'd love to talk to you more if you ever feel inclined. I want you to be saved and hopeful and joy filled. 💕
@@itsmejessie Heavenly Father, as I personally know Him, is kind and loving.
He knows that not all will understand or be able come to the truth in a world full of confusion and deceit. As I see it, the most important part of any faith is a person's honest intention to follow truth, seeing as whenever they are actually confronted with it if they are set on following truth, they will recognize it and follow it.
Coming to know Christ is the best thing that ever happened to me. Through His grace, and Heavenly Father's plan, I am conquering things that have plagued me for a majority of my life and finding peace within myself for the first time.
I know this gospel to be true, and I understand that your belief system has you fearful for us.
That being said, I do appreciate both your apology and your concern. If it any point you'd ever like to talk more in-depth, you're more than welcome to reach out to me.
Rachel, listen to some of the testimonies on the ex mormon files .com..... Joseph Smith added and subjected from Gods Holy Bible. He was a false prophet who twisted the whole gospel. The Jesus of Mormonism is a false one. The angel who came to him in the cave was a demon disguised as an angel of light. GALATIONS 1:8. Pls leave this cult.
Yes 62% of people are LDS in Utah.
I have lived in Utah my whole life and was raised LDS and I didn't even know some of these things. I left the church before I was allowed to get my endowments and "go through the temple" as they say.. but I did perform baptisms and confirmations for the dead. And the one thing I can say from the experiences that I've had is the church seems very forced, contradictive and extremely repetitive. Almost every time I would ask about researching into the church my "leaders" would tell me to do it in a church building and discouraged me from doing my own research at home. I just don't know how current members don't see the red flags or the similarities between the LDS church and other cults.
@ waldorf minion... Hmmm have questions about the church... don't ask the church members... ask NON members. Why? because they will tell you the truth? How did that work out for the people when the church first started? Let's go talk to people who were ex-communicated or left the church... or those who are critical of everything about the church... yea... they are the one that have the truth... right? The members are just all liars, and deceitful people.
And because you never received your endowments... you expected to be told everything you don't need to know? You were apparently never ready to receive your endowments and yet you wanted to be treated more than everyone else was? I don't know waldorf... seems as if someone wasn't really interested in the Lord's Church and what it had to offer.
It's a blessing to hear and watch you. As you are opening the eyes of people that don't really know what Mormons are. Thank you and God bless you...m
I know Mormonism, 53 years as a Mormon.
Mormons are Depp state gang stalkers like Islam
All run by Freemasons criminals
You must have really took offense to something someone said. Going out of your way to bash a religion. You have fulfilled prophecies in the scriptures, lol
Richard Billeter is she lying? Why are you offended?
Mary davison do you like lies ??☺️
I was recently asked come to their church under the guise of Christianity. I had no idea they were Mormons until I got there. Soon as they talked about going to temple, gold plates and Joseph smith. I was totally confused because I know true Christians do not believe in that. Then one of their missionaries was talking to me and opened their bible and at the bottom it said Mormon. That’s when I was even more puzzled because I had no idea about Mormonism. Literally recently I am learning about it and another missionary asked me what my religious background is, in front of their followers. When I said I was raised in Islam but I don’t agree with the religion. That’s when one of their followers told me it’s all the same and most religions come from the Middle East have similar beliefs. So later through text I asked their missionary if they practice polygamy, which I am totally against and one of the reasons I don’t subscribe to Islam, the missionary told me they used to do it under the directions from God. So I have been telling them I’m busy and don’t have time to come over for “bible” study. Honestly I’m kind of afraid to offend them so I’m trying to respectfully decline their offer to “save my soul.” Thank you for exposing who they are because I almost fell into that cult but luckily I always do my research before committing to anything. 😅 you’re right they definitely lie about a lot of things until you catch them in their lies.
Get away from all organized religion. Nature is what we should worship. I was born into a Muslim family but we were never super devout. My older sister is now a Christian. I don’t believe in either. I pray to higher power and Mother Nature.
@@Gangsterkitty401meow good to know I’m not alone. Same here I feel like ancient spiritual ways are more effective but all organized religions look down on them and demonize the old ways yet many religions have holidays that are pagan holidays and they have changed the rituals. I know relatives who do black magic and have good results but then they pray for forgiveness from Allah. Which is an oxymoron if you ask me.
Congratulations to each of you for getting away from organized religion.
Jess, great video. Can you give me a call? I've got a couple of questions I want to run by you. It's about the fact that the upper echelons of the church (the "70" and above) MUST know the truth about Joseph Smith and therefore must be rationalizing, or flatly lying, about this whole religion. And I have a couple of more questions. I'm in San Diego, so if you could call me between 12 noon and 5p PST, that would be best. The call won't be long but I want to get your thoughts on some things. Oh, by the way, YOU are an absolute delight. Tim
I met with missionaries and the experience was opposite of what you are saying.
And the Mormon Church are jerks. Calling me a killer for being gay.
Working concrete is kind of hard no lunch and no restroom break I had to pee in a bush somewhere. They wouldn't talk to me. But they were really nice to the other workers with lunch food and drinks, and restroom breaks. I'm transgender they hated me for it.
HRT hormone therapy. I want to destroy their fucking stupid-ass Church. I want revenge
@@mishaladara you’re basing your opinion of an entire church based on a few members?
@@mishaladara I am so sorry you had to go through that. I am a member of the church, the way you were treated is absolutely awful. Your feelings for the church are completely understandable. And again I am so sorry this happened ( this is not me trying to change your mind about the church, I am just apology for what happened )
I pray that through your video, many will come to know the deception of the LDS church. God be with you Jessie!
She is preaching false doctrine in this video. Some of these points like the “garments” are half correct but they are not to proctect you from “non-Mormons” wherever she found this source is completely wrong.
@@mysterymatrix8527 The very foundation of what the LDS deception preaches is pagan. It's immaterial to me why they wear 'Sacred/secret garments and think they'll enter Heaven with Masianic hand gestures. It's a pagan cult teaching a false doctrine, claiming the Bible is corrupted, all while claiming Christ.
@@YaakovBuchner we don't claim that the Bible is corrupted. It's not perfect, complete or infallible.
@@lindalds And this is the problem with Joseph's theology. The Bible is complete, perfect, and infallible! To say otherwise is to call Jesus, His true Prophets, Revelators and Seres liars. Jesus never visited the America's! My people are not Native Americans! Smith's narratives have never existed! Sadly, you have chosen to believe a false gospel; a pagan gospel. I pray that you continue to pursue the truth. You'll find it in Jessie's videos.
@@YaakovBuchner No one in the Bible ever said anything about THE BIBLE. The Bible says nothing about THE BIBLE.
Mormonism lost me when Joseph Smith claimed he found the golden plates, and when he looked into the Seer stone.
M gdhse3 and not forgetting Joseph Smith had child brides
Sooo... do you simply ignore the seer stones in the Old Testament and what happened with another prophet that restored the truth to a people who had fallen into idol worship - namely Moses with the stone tablets that had the 10 commandments written on them?
The seer stones Joseph Smith claimed he used were called an Urim and Thummim. These were two stones in silver bows-and these stones, fastened to a breastplate; and the possession and use of these stones were what constituted “seers” in ancient or former times; and that God had prepared them for the purpose of translating the book.
References to prophets using similar devices (I’m sure there isn’t just one set of seer stones in the whole world) in the Old Testament include... Exodus 28:30; Leviticus 8:8; Numbers 27:21; Deuteronomy 33:8; 1 Samuel 28:6; Ezra 2:63; and Nehemiah 7:65.
M gdhse3 you should read the Book of Mormon before giving up.
Info Man Joseph Smith only had children with Emma Smith. He didn’t live with any other women.
@@infoman7211 not true