Corps of Royal Engineers - Vintage Fighting in Woods VT
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This video created in the 80's shows how the Royal Engineers utilised their unique skills to build and operate within trenches and wooded areas. A brilliant little throwback created by the British Defence Film Library. As you all know, we can't forget where we come from and what made us what we are today! #ArmyConfidence #Belonging #ThisIsBelonging
I like how these tactics were based on the assumption that the Russians would be predictable, poorly trained and stupid. Turns out that intel was spot on 😂
Hmmm... and yet using the techniques of the video above don't seem to be doing the Ukrainians much good - the Russians just stand off, use drones to locate the trenches and then destroy them with artillery.
@@benleydon Well it must be working in some form as the Russians are not storming across the Ukrainian country side in fact over the last year they have as a percentage been moving backwards or standing still !!!
Even an intelligent enemy can't levitate over obstacles or mines... without helicopters and drones of course but there is a lot of armour that needs to get through the terrain so it simply must be the case that the war will maneuver like this and then bog down as materiel is lost. Attrition reveals the winner.
Enemy leadership will demand a speedy advance. As Napoleon said, 'Ground I can win back, time never'. So that is the way it is... a lot of lives and tanks etc will be destroyed in the first thrust as they probe for weakness.
Good humour there mate! Unfortunately, it seems to go right over, some people’s 😅 heads!
@@paulbenson8962 😂 you can’t educate pork!
Sappers doing the route denial and mine laying, then bugging out to find Wolfgang for a last Herfy Handbag and Bratty before Ivan arrives.
.. no need "to find" Wolfgang, he'd have known exactly where we were.
Back when we had an Army capable of fighting a major war. Now only fit for limited counter insurgency operations.
like border invasions ?
Back when we had real Rifles SLR’s 🔥
Finally, the full version.
Better quality too!
"A Ministry of Defence subject. Reproduction in any form is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN"
Ah well. Let's put it on RUclips. Everyone's going to heed that warning for sure..
Seriously: Thanks a lot for these videos!
That officer really likes hearing himself speaking German placenames!
The one point I'll always remember from our arrivals brief is "If they ever come across the IGB your life expectancy, as an RCT Driver, is 10 minutes" 😕
Quite a sobering thought for an 18yr old 🤔 😳 🤣
RIP Two Three Bravo. Smudger, Brum, Scouse, Geordie, Taff, Jock, Ginge, you were Ally as fuck.
Would have sucked being the platoon that had to dig in the rest of the company while they were forward in ambush positions
We'd never have won that war; no way were we diverse enough.
😂😂 It's fortunate the loving folks at Westminster have solved that problem this past 20 years.
Amazing how well spoken and posh they all sounded. The uniforms were shit back then. Made by the cheapest bid. Weapons were pretty good. LAW, MIlan, L1A1 Slr's
Officers with a bad attack of trench mouth. The cardboard boots were very stylish.
As a RE Veteran, I must say, I've got a bit of a touch on!
Hurrah for The C.R.E.
Time to repost, ACTIVE EDGE!
@@irvsstella haha that’s a blast from the past
iv not seen so many dodgy porn star moustaches in one place since vhs.😂😂
Thankfully someone has uploaded the full version. I saw this years ago...still gives me a twinge!! 🥰
Its making me think of cheese possesed and jam washed down with screech!
80s were the rational years, fine military logic.
As we now know we gave the Russians way too much professionalism respect.
We should, however have had many more Milans and Tow's
This video should be re-labelled. For the majority of the action in these woods is carried out by the 2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards, an elite infantry regiment and with just a small element being the sappers (Engineers) laying some mines and digging some trenches. The title is mis-leading. Try vintage fighting in woods by the Grenadier Guards, supported by the Royal Engineers.
Absolutely bonkers to compare the land forces in the UK now to this. I bet none of these guys back then would believe it.
I like how practical this is. Well made. Thanks for sharing it.
When he said “there’s only one Chieftain in the position because there was one working…” I thought he was going to say ‘Chieftain’ next… :)
Actually this must been filmed in a very narrow window in time: there are LAW80 and the Mk 6 helmet, but there are still Mk 7 mines and nary a set of nasty 1985 pattern combats in sight. By the time the Mk 6 and LAW80 were in general service, the Mk 7’s were all but withdrawn from BAOR and were mainly retained for use in Berlin.
the fact that the slr was still use
It's not like this requires detective work to establish when it was from, there's a 1982 copyright date ten seconds in.
I appreciated the insight Oppo. 👍
How dare you slag the 85 pattern kit!! Man did they hold water!
@@kh2716 like a DPM teabag :)
Better than any crappy Hollywood war movie by far.
Very public school officer.
well that bought back good memories, old gear but good to have the advantage.
everyones got a plan till they get punched in the face
Fair play to the guy that took the death roll off the BTR 😂 17:22
I think was filmed in 81,this is my old regiment,probably I was locked up in guardroom at time.I recognise a few faces but I was in a different company.Never remember royal engineers digging my trench always doing by hand,1982,the grenadier guards returned to uk
No way . Years later, look at the helmets. I would have guessed 84.
Yeah look at all that digging equipment. A grunts wet dream for defensive works.... which usually is not around.
@@cyclesgoff9768 There's a copyright notice ten seconds in. 1982.
@@hectorcot597 yup you’re right, I stand corrected.
@@jic1 yup, thanks I was wrong and went back for a look myself. Those helmets weren’t anywhere near standard issue though.
Are there equivalent films made more recently for troop training?
I've seen modern training videos using an Arma like program, never anything with the level of production you see in these old 80's vids.
Brilliant! I never knew this had been made. My old unit 2GG I'd have been on the ground somewhere.
Nice to see DPM, SLR unfortunately MK 6 helmet not MK 5.
The Royal Engineers would of dug the holes, cleared trees and laid the mines but the Grenadiers Guards and other infantry Regiments would of had the real tough task! Thankfully none of this training needed to be practiced for real. Thanks for uploading a great bit of British Army history.
And what would that real tough task be?
Tough task?
If you served in the infantry you will know what I am talking about.....
@@neilk943 Go on then, spill it… tell us. Its not tough to talk about it, is it?
Some prize dickheads commenting on your post.
Always remember being sent to the Grenadier Guards to install some comms for them on excercise. The fellas were all digging trenches whilst the CO, Major Sir double barrelled surname, was sitting in a deckchair, with his shooting stick, and two spaniels, directing operations, via a very subserviant sergeant 😂😂😂
About right for the Grenadiers. We used to call them 'The dukes and duchesses of mincing around'. The men and the NCO's were sound enough, the officers spent all their time discussing complete waffle and having a hard on for the storied history of the regiment. As a nco to officer in another regiment, I felt as out of place as a fart in a colander surrounded by them.
Having flashbacks to BOAR
I have watch half of this so many times glad to finally be able to watch the 2nd part
I did 5 years in the Engineers. Give me a like if you had the balls to FOLLOW THE SAPPER.
so, this was made by Ronald H Riley? Well, I never fucking knew that!
Seeing these trenches made in 1982 compared to the gopping state of the Russian trenches in 2023 makes one think.
31RSIGS(V)
How would you know REMF
Anyone else notice how good the DPM is? I do wonder if our current type of camouflage clothing doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in European woodland.
Unfortunately we wouldn’t have the manpower or equipment to play this out now 🤦🏻♂️
I know phosphorus grenades were only to be used for smoke but I wouldn't like to be a infantry man caught in a blast then shower of fire that won't go out and that will burn right through you
Another glimpse into the War That Didn't Happen.
If it had happened, none of us would be here presently likely,
@@chunkymonkey55555 True. I can't imagine a scenario that wouldn't lead to nukes.
My God, were our commanders that useless in 1982?
I remember watching this training film. It's all good stuff.
Saw it when I joined RM in 1993. It appeared well out of date by then. Nothing, saw for the MG’s shown in the OP was in use by then.
A working CET @ 9:30 now that's a rarity!
Set up defensive positions in der flipperwald gersput..🙂
Very quirky film, although I fear was way off what would've happened. I enjoyed 'playing the game' though as part of RAFG, especially when it came to Wobbly & Bratties time 😄
Or even Mally wagon time! Talking about RAFG on exercise etc, when on the ground most ground defence teams despite the plan would choose their own "bunker" to open fire from, the last place you want to be is somewhere thats been known about for years.
I dont see any RE here though. Mostly Grenadier Guards.
Exactly, great camouflage
I remember watching this in Germany
How far in front of the forward positions should/are the alternative routes blocked?
Far enough to funnel as many as possible into the killing ground. Depends on time.
Fascinating! I did not expect to watch the entire video!
This is probably more useful than the training the russians currently receive.
"Force vehicles off the track an into our mines" - exactly what we see today.
this is still practical and relevant in modern times, appart from the extra drone threat not verry different from how i was trained 15years ago.
I hope they can build tunnels because todays drone and thermal camera tech you cannot hide from AoE weapons
Meanwhile, as they are enjoying the perfect summer weather in West Germany, we were enjoying the sodding rain or snow in Norway.
Drink tea and leave your hands of the logs in the German forest 🧐
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Amazing camouflage. The Brits have always been excellent in this field, and recognised by potential adverseries as so. Keep up the great work!
The Germans are the masters of camouflage though
There are 15 Germans concealed in this comments section - bet you can’t find them…
Does anybody know what's been inserted between the two kidney pouches at 5:12?
36 hours? Not bloody likley...
I wonder if those APC's are ULEZ compliant? 🇬🇧
Well they are technically Classic Vehicles, so, yes.
Wish our army would do traing films like this. A Ranger depiction would be great.This was really enjoyable!
Chainsaw?
Stage 3 OHP at least 18 inches of earth on top
Marked with a cross
@@Cous1nJack 😂 😂 😂
😂 😂 😂
Lmfao drop an abatise across the road armor isnt going anywhere call in airstrikes...job done.
Great training film. "Once and enemy enters Ukraine, never, ever let him out alive!" 😀
3 tanks? This is the USSR it would probably be 30 minimum! 300 troops. oh and a few tactical nukes to clear the way.
Its an instructional video not a Hollywood blockbuster
This is only one small sector !
as a tank troop we expected a multitude of vehicles but were expected to take on tanks as the primary target
WW2, Cold War 60's Malaya-Borneo dan Malvinas adalah beberapa episode terakhir dari kemampuan deployment masif dari British Army.
Bahkan perang malvinas bisa saya katakan adalah Danger Gambling jika British kalah dari argentina dengan situasi ekonomi-politik mereka yang sedang tidak baik ketika itu, dan beruntung mereka berhasil menang dengan beberapa kerugian fatal seperti yang kita ketahu
British Army sudah tidak lagi relevan untuk masif deployment seperti US Army hari ini. Keterbatasan Natural Resources dan kapasitas personel turut berkontribusi pada terbatasnya kapasitas British Royal Army jika terjadi pecah konflik secara besar.
Yang artinya tanpa bantuan US Army maka British Royal Army tidak dapat berbuat banyak pada eskalasi global modern hari ini. Ini adalah kenyataan.
Two things, first, the British Army is not a "royal" army, due to complicated history that I won't get into here. Understable since we have a royal Air force and a royal navy, but no royal army.
And second, the BA is enough to defend its home islands. It doesn't need to do massive foreign campaigns, that's what NATO is for. Most nations in the world can't do so, only the likes of China and the US, and as it seems, not even Russia can do so. And since Britain isn't getting back into the empire game, there is no need to do large scale invasions as a single nation. However, Britain does lead the way in terms of armour and electronic warfare, and cheap anti-tank warfare. With friends like NATO, who needs enemies....
@@WhistlingFerret Saya sependapat dengan statement anda, sebab yang diperlukan saat ini adalah kemampuan asimetrical warfare. Namun dalam hal ini saya melihat US army and US marines masih memiliki kemampuan large scale warfare, dikarenakan kapasitas budget dan cadangan minyak mereka yang sangat besar. Saya yakin China juga mampu melakukannya melihat potensi mereka yang begitu besar hari ini. Begitu juga dengan Russia, natural resources yang melimpah meskipun disatu sisi tidak seimbang dengan kapasitas budget perang mereka.
Saya mempertimbangkan kemampuan large scale bukan hanya seberapa banyak yang dapat dioperasikan, namun juga kapasitas budget dan natural resources masing-masing negara.
Kita tidak pernah tahu ancaman besar seperti apa kedepan. Nuklir dan asimetrical warfare memang ancaman terbesar, namun ancaman konvensional di darat dan laut tetap berpotensi bahaya sebagaimana yang terjadi di ukraina.
I remember seeing loads of these type of training films from my time in Brough back some goid memories
Very funny
Are those actual BMPs and BTRs being used?
Looks it. Probably bought them cheap off of the Israelis
@@judyhopps9380 agree, they do look like them. The tanks are vizmod Chieftains, however.
@@MontytheHorse wowzers. Thanks for the reply. Not going to lie, the guys did a good job with that.
I bet the entire british army can be easily wiped out by two 2 russian divisions.
Whel british army now is even smaller than two divisions...
Right on.
1 Brit = 10,000 Russians
@@urmum3773 Rainbow flag loving brit @gots, can do f@ck all.
Has Russia still got 2 full divisions they could deploy?
Someone with their finger on the pulse of current events right here.
These vids are awesome. You could probably make a decent film from the footage of all these various training videos.