The Flash by Geoff Johns Omnibus Vol. 3 Overview!
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Today I do an overview of the The Flash by Geoff Johns Omnibus Volume 3 (New Printing) from DC comics! I talk about where this new printing fits in the reading order.
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Wally West shall always be the greatest Flash (to me). These omnis are dope but I'm truly looking forward to seeing DC officially announce Mark Waid's run. For reals.
November 8, 2022
Wally West will always be my Flash, but MAN these stories are so awesome. Every time I get an omnibus containing Geoff Johns writing, I read through it pretty dang quickly
Ryan Newton Geoff Johns is a good writer. He's got an insane ability to understand the character he is writing, voice, personality etc. very well. His New 52 Aquaman run remains my personal favorite because he took a character who had been stagnant(I'm a huge Aquaman fan and I'll admit; outside say Peter David's run, he hadn't had a big hit) and made him awesome. Especially, the Throne of Atlantis story arc which to me was great.
To me, Geoff John’s along with Chris Claremont are my favorite comic book writers of all-time. Just wonderful storytelling 99% of the time.
Man, so many great runs of Flash, post crisis. Mark Waid -> Geoff Johns -> Francis Manapul -> Joshua Williamson -> Jeremy Adams. He is arguably the most important character in the DC universe.
I can relate to how weird it was for Barry Allen to come back. I remember Wally West being my Flash, whether it be in Justice League/ JLU's animated series or reading the Johns/ Waid era of Flash comics. And yeah; New 52 what happened with Wally, that wasn't great.. A part of me wants to pick this up. I have the first two volumes and loved it and I enjoy Flashpoint a lot. I may just pickup the Flashpoint Omnibus instead. Flashpoint was a solid story, given the unique alternative reality presented. I especially love(SPOILER ALERT)
Thomas Wayne as Batman and Martha Wayne as the Joker. (SPOILER END) Overall, Geoff Johns is someone who I adore as a writer and got me into reading DC.
Bro, just get both Flash omni vol 3 and Flashpoint omni. If you don’t your shelves will look all empty and sad and you will too. You know it makes sense 😀👍🏻
So happy to have this omnibus. I've read quite a bit of this book in trade paperbacks beforehand, and this was the run I grew up with in "Flash." The way Johns re-introduced Barry was awesome to me, and I'm glad to know that there's a Flash for everyone.
The Flash should have had a animated series years ago.
Mr. DC COMICS Right?! The Flash I argue has one of the best rogues galleries in comics. Right up there with Batman and Spider-Man. And in general, the Flash has that great balance of light-hearted fun and can be serious/ dark.
@@Avarn388 The Flash animated series probably could have been just as good like Batman TAS and Spiderman TAS.
I've been saying this for years. Flash was made for animation
Upgraded all my old Trades for these omnis. Glad the third volume is now out. Really great run of the character.
Flashpoint, from what I understand, was always going to be a Flash event miniseries, but the transition into the New 52 was a DiDio addition. Geoff Johns has never really said what the original ending to Flashpoint was to be, but I know it had to be better than the New 52 (my opinion).
And yes, pre-Crisis Barry Allen's parents were both alive.
As for my favorite Flash: Jay Garrick is the best, but then one of my first comics was THE FLASH (1959 series) #229, a team-up of the Earth-1 and Earth-2 Flashes against Rag Doll.
Yeah, Flashpoint was going to exist, but Didiot turned it into a universe altering event. The CW version of Flashpoint is actually more in line with what Johns was originally going to do with it.
Hi Omar I just wanted to say what's up and I've been excited to see vol 3 come out!
Sweet overview, bro. Now I’ve got this I can finally read all 3 of these Omnibus’s’s for the first time.
Whew. I remember reading Flash Rebirth by Johns at Borders as a kid. I was completely and utterly confused lol.
Excellent review as always! 👏
I’m still waiting for the Mark Waid Omnibuses … make it happen DC!
Great job as always, Omar!
I have mine on order… looking forward to re-reading the story.
Looking forward to getting this. I'm a Wally West guy but still, it's Geoff Johns being awesome with the Flash, gotta have it on the ol bookshelf.
The gap and swip swap of protagonist identity's what made me decide to not even put the book alongside the first two volumes.
I kind of just have them by themselves, meanwhile I have my N52 shelf start with Geoff Johns Flash vol 3, then Flashpoint omni, and then the Manapul omni as it goes into the other N52 collections... Still need to get Grayson though, hope that omni comes back in some way or form.
Or better yet, I'd love if Flash Rebirth gets an omnibus, or 'Joshua Williamson' omnibus. Whichever one it'd be, I'd buy that in a heartbeat that run was phenomenal, and it always confused me that it never got more Deluxe Edition hardcovers made.
Still though, great video Omar, definitely looking forward to reading through this one. 👍
"It was me Barry"
Ive never read the mark waid flash run so im excited for that omni later this year. But i have only read flash new 52 which i thought was amazing, i started reading comics with the new 52 so i didnt read anything before that but recently i picked up flash by geoff johns vol 1 and it was absolutely amazing. Geoff johns has a way of writing that really makes you care about the characters. Im currently almost done with volume 2 now and wow its fantastic
Love it more than I thought I would. Geoff johns is better the more you read of a character of his
Its very funny becouse i got into comics at 2016 and due to the tv saw, for a long time i thought Barry Allen was mainly the flash. It blew my mind when i realized that wally west was the flash for most fans so many years!
I get that. I grew up on John Stewart Green Lantern.
I will say I love this collection cause these issues in it are the very first Flash comics I read which was issue 12. Just great stuff leading to Flashpoint I love this run from Geoff Johns return.
PSA: To the NMC Flash Fans.
Geoff Johns did add the Murdered Mother trope to the “Flash: Rebirth”.
However, Barry Allan did have one tragic plot line that played itself out in the ( Silver Age ) Flash monthly comic. That was, Barry Allen’s murder of Reverse Flash, in stopping him from killing his wife Iris West.
That storyline led into “ The Trial of The Flash” storyline.
The final sentencing of that storyline was Guilty!
Which Barry Allan managed to evade, by time traveling into the Future.
That was the status of the Flash, that DC Comics Writer Marv Wolfman found him in as he Plotted out Crisis On Infinite Earths.
Barry Allan’s death in Crisis On Infinite Earths # 8, allowed Barry Allan to leave behind a HEROIC Legacy, versus that of a time traveling hero accused and convicted of murder in the 20th Century.
This “ sacrifice “ allowed Barry Allan to pass the mantle of The Flash to Wally West to create a fresh untainted start.
The second Flash monthly series was published with a # 1 issue on June-1987, with a whopping cover price of .75 cents.
The creative Team were:
1)Writer: Mike Baron
2)Penciler: Jackson Guice
3)Inker: Larry Malhstedt
With that # 1 issue the NEW LEGEND of Wally West as “ The Flash “ was sealed into the fans consciousness, and into the new mainstream DC Universe.
Long Live WALLY WEST..!!
⚡️ THE FLASHHHH…⚡️
Sincerely,
⚡️ KidFlash..!! ⚡️
Thank You.
i have 1 and 2, so definitely getting this.
1 was ok but 2 was great. I feel like Geoff johns gains momentum as his runs move along
I also grew up with Wally West, mostly due to the Justice League Unlimited series. I forced myself to stay away from Barry Allen as much as possible because I felt he threatened my bias towards Wally. But then I couldn't take it anymore and decided that Jay Garrick should be my favorite Flash instead. Then Wally West became the Flash and he ended up becoming my legitimate favorite. I hated how they randomly decided to kill him off just to bring Wally West back. I still loved the character, but they basically just brought him back like an animal. With that in mind, I actually ended up being excited to find out Barry Allen was finally being brought back. I don't believe any character has ever been brought back quite as well as Barry Allen. And after finally reading some of the original silver and bronze age runs, it's like I finally realized who THE FLASH really is and what his mantle really means. The entire Flash mythology literally revolves around Bartholomew Henry Allen. No Barry means no Flash mythology, comic continuity or real life applications. Barry Allen's character is the one character consistently shaping the actual world just by shaping the DC universe, just out of the need of entertainment through creativity.
Man that's great cover
Thanks for the overview! As I have all this material collected in trades and hardcovers, I will probably pass on this one.
I totally relate and agree with your assessment of this period of Flash but ill go one further. Johns adding the murder of his mom as part of Barry's backstory, was always to me a way to "Marvelize" the character namely give him a more tragic backstory like so many Marvel characters. Barry Allen has always been a pretty bland and dull character with his most notable thing he ever did was die during Crisis. I felt this was John's and DCs way of trying to give him more depth with ok success.
I don't fault DC for trying and like Barry Allen being back to a certain degree, but just like you Wally West will always be my Flash. Frankly IMO Wally is and always has been a more interesting and 3 dimensional character vs Barry. Still looking fwd to picking this book up having never reading some the issues great overview as always.
Exactly. They gave Barry the dead parent trope because it was the only way to make him interesting. Barry was always just a nice, normal, boring person. There is nothing wrong with that and it worked great in the silver age, but he should have stayed in the silver age. They had much more interesting and modern character in Wally that they just decided to toss away.
Marvelize???? The Flash’s parents story is straight out Batman’s school of origin stories.
@@Carlos-xz3vi What I mean by that is to have some kind of "tragic origin backstory" that spurs a character to want to become a hero and do good vs "just wanting to" so to speak.
Yes Batman for DC is comparable but its more prevalent in Marvel characters vs DC. Examples: Spider-Man, Daredevil, Thing, Dr Strange, Iron Man, and many more hence the comment. Batman is arguably more of a "Marvel type" character when it comes to tragic origins and motivations for being a hero vs his DC counterparts.
Wally is also my fave Flash so I’m pretty much picking this up to complete the set. Apart from the fantastic vol 2 cover I’m a little disappointed with the overall jacket designs. Will be interesting to see if anybody goes for a customised set!
My dream Omnibus is finally here!!!!! So happy to have all this stuff in one book and to have my favorite story of all time Flash Rebirth in Omni format is beautiful
BEST REVEIW OF THIS BOOK. ANNNNNNNNND SAVE ME SOME MONEY HEHHE. THANKSSSS. MY FLASH IS WALLY TOOO.
Wally is best Wally!
Omar, I really appreciate you explaining about the Rebirth issues. I was always thinking, how can you have Rebirth issues but the story is set before the New 52?
This directly leads into the flash by Francis Manapul omnibus
It does.
Wally West will always be my Kid Flash.
Now, how does one reconcile with that, Omar?
You go back and read classic New Teen Titans? :)
@@NearMintCondition I already did.
I already have.....
How to go forward?
FLASH! so excited for this, can't wait to read these stories and finally get to Flashpoint. Still feel slighted for my boy Wally by that spine but hey, more flash omnis I can't complain.
New 52 vol 2 omnibus next please DC?
Nice review, but question: do i need to read anything prior to book 3 (and after book 3) in order to fully understand it?
Also do i separately need to get the flashpoint absolute/omni or are the issues in book 3 sufficient to understand the story?
Not really. Just know Barry came back in Final Crisis and then read Flash Rebirth.
To anyone not aware, even though this says volume 3 it's really its own thing (as Omar explains), not really a continuation of the first 2 omnis. If you have volumes 1 and 2, that's a complete Flash story, you don't necessarily "need" volume 3. It also means you don't necessarily have to have read volumes 1 and 2 to read this.
Do I need to buy volume 3 if I already own final crisis, and the flashpoint omnibus?
@@brandon17760 What is in both this omnibus and the flashpoint omnibus is Flash 8-12 and Flashpoint 1-5
What isn't in the flashpoint omnibus (to my knowledge) is the Final crisis Rogues revenge 1-3, Flash Rebirth 1-6, Flash 1-7, Blackest Night flash 1-3.
So I'd say about 1/4 to 1/3 of this is already in the Flashpoint omnibus. You might also have some of the other stuff in other collected editions of course. Hope that helps.
@@robertbartels1483 yeah I looked it up, and I'm just going to buy the flash rebirth, and death of the rogues In standard hardcover because basically that's all I'm missing, I have blackest night, final crisis and flashpoint so there's not much of a point to have it. I'd rather save the money and just get a different omnibus saving 50-60$
Wow all this sounds so complicated about the gap between vol 2 and 3. Why doesnt the omni as ab intro bridge the gap about what happened on a few pages of txt maybe?
They shouldn't have called this "By Geoff Johns Volume 3" as Volume 3 implies it's directly after Volume 2. They could have titled it "Flash Rebirth By Geoff Johns" or something.
@Omar and Minties I need help lol...
As a completionist I'd really like to add this to my 1st and 2nd vol.
How much value would you say there is in content for somebody who already owns Flash Vol 1+2, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, Blackest Night, and Flash Point Omnibuses?
Is it practical?
You would really just be missing Rebirth and a few of the first few issues of the ongoing. That is lots of double dipping. So this one might be a pass. Get Absolute Rebirth and the first trade of Flash.
@@NearMintCondition that was my consensus too. I wish it focused more on non crossover titles. Thanks!
They did Wally dirty many years ago when the run ended and made Bart the flash just so they could kill him which jhons fixed in the incredible legion of three worlds
Was literally thinking today. Where the hell is the flash vol 3 overview. Does it make sense to just buy this vol on its own? Rather than 1&2 and or flashpoint omnibus.
What flash takes place after flashpoint ?
Van Sciver's art looks amazing
I always laugh when you say uncanny Omar. The way you pronaunce uncanny sounds to me un-känni. Känni is a finnish word used in spoken language which means drunk. Un-känni 😆
That actually fits lol.
Do you think these 3 omnis will still be in print or in stock by this december? Volume 1 is the one I fear it gets out of print.
I think waiting that long is a risk. I'd say solid chance Vol 3 is still available.
Volume 1 is getting a restock later this year
@@anthonyufert8477 Where can I see which books are getting a restock?
I'm confused. I have the Flash by GJ Omnibus Vol 2 and 3 from a few years back (kinda want to pick up Vol 1 just to complete it) but this is a re-release where vol 1-3 of the old omnis are collected in Vol 1-2 of the new omnis? Ugh......I kind of want all the new ones but don't wan to re-buy. I definitely stopped caring about the Flash after the Impulse switch and immediate *disposal*. Then Barry had some kids for awhile until they disappeared and new 52 happened. It was a mess.
Yeah they remapped the omnis. If you have the previous 3 all you need is this one brother. So you’ll have two volume 3s.
With all the releases by GJ including the new Williamson from 2024, what would you recommend a total newcomer to Flash? Thanks!
How much overlap is there with the Final Crisis Omninus and the Flashpoint Omnibus?
Three issues of final crisis and 15 found in flashpoint.
@@NearMintCondition Thanks! That is quite a lot for Flashpoint :x
I love the covers of these omnibuses but what in the hell is wrong with those spines? The Flash on the spine of Volume 2 looks like how I imagine the design team were when they thought this was a good idea.
How should I read this volume and the flashpoint omnibus?
Read this first and stop at Flashpoint. Then move to read all of Flashpoint in omnibus format.
Was there a return of Barry Allen story? You said it isn't collected
It happens in the pages of Final Crisis.
This is the third omnibus. Do I need to start with 1 and 2 first?
Not at all. This is the beginning of Barry coming back as Flash.
@@NearMintCondition, glad to hear that. Thanks!
Is the flashpoint omnibus a standalone?
Kind of. The Flashpoint Omni collects tie ins.
Barry should have stayed dead. Wally all the way! Still getting this though 😀
Wally, Wally, Wally. Now that the vast majority of Flash fanboys that loved Wally are probably older in conjunction with those like me that prefer Wally over Barry-even though I grew up during the 80’s when it was all Barry. We should all petition to bring Wally back as the main Flash and keep Barry Uncle Ben dead. I wouldn’t mind killing off Hal Jordan and bringing Kyle Rayner as GL as well, lol.
I love that you said Uncle Ben dead! As that’s what I used to say or Bucky dead…. But we all know what happened there. And yes to all the suggestions!
@@NearMintCondition, lol. Fanboys unite!
So this should have been Barry Allen Vol 1 omnibus
But still written by Geoff Johns.
My Flash was the 90's TV series. I never bought Flash comics. Been buying the New printings of the Omnibus and was shocked to discover it's Wally not Barry that stars in those books.
Looks like this one has a lot of overlapping to other omnibus of final crisis, flashpoint and blackest night. By my counting, there are 17 issues (out of 30, i.e. more than half) were contained in those previous omnibus. If that's really the case, I think I will just skip this one.
It’s lots of overlapping for sure.
I wonder if the misprints will actually become worth something
This era of Flash is so weird to me. The Flash: Rebirth is really bad; it reads like a visual dictionary, and Ethan Van Sciver is a bad choice for art on a Flash book. The Flash #1-12 is so damn good! I love practically everything about everything leading up to Flashpoint. Too bad Flashpoint is ass. At least Andy Kubert’s art is great!