GMMK Numpad - What is Glorious Doing?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Check out the Fractal Design Define 7 Mini & Nano Here! - bit.ly/define7...
👇 PULL IT DOWN FOR THE GOOD STUFF 👇
The GMMK Numpad - priced at $129.99 - is the latest release from Glorious and the latest in a string of puzzling moves that may have you feeling they're a little less Glorious than they used to be.
✅LINKS TO ME EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME
linktr.ee/bads...
✅GMMK NUMPAD PRESALE (affiliate link IF you insist)
shrsl.com/3nsrb
✅BADSEED x SPACE FORGED CARBON DESK MAT
spaceholdings....
CODE 'BADSEEDTECH' GETS 10% OFF YOUR ORDER
✅Private Discord (via Patreon) - / badseedtech
--------------------------------
Film Gear Used to Produce This Channel:
Main Cam - Sony a7S III - geni.us/7zixIi
B Cam - Sony a7 IV - geni.us/gAWzI
Main Broll Lens - Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 - geni.us/WYR0s
Macro Lens - Sigma 105mm F2.8 - geni.us/ZhcxH
Talking Head Lens - Sigma 24mm F1.4 - geni.us/ctDfoUt
Main Mic - Audio-Technica AT4053B - geni.us/nEknk
--------------------------------
Song - "368" - Jobii
www.epidemicso...
#glorious #gmmk #keyboard
Glorious seems to be taking the OnePlus route albeit for different external factors. The end result is the same though, a scrappy upstart providing insane value but then living long enough to see itself become the villain.
Oneplus at least stays at a price and quality somewhat comparable to the top brands. Glorious right now is stupidly scummy and almost feels like they are trying to exit scam, tbh.
Damnn thats a good comparison lmao
Glorious looks even worse than Oneplus right now, since new Oneplus phones are still good and competitive just not as affordable as their OG phones were. Glorious seems to sell mediocre products at weird prices and as BST said, they "get" you in the customisation. If I wanted to customise my model D as I wanted, I'd have to spend as much $$ as the mouse itself was (Incl. shipping)
@@user-kz9rz8ui1c 1+ was (repeat!) "was" a budget brand before they had to try fight the samsung/apple phones its only been in last few year (3-4 phones) 1+ has had to push there price's GMMK are just robbing the masses trying to be "premium
Dev, that a dam right comparison
I've had some personal issues with Glorious as well. I hold a Marketing Degree and decided back in January that I would apply for a Copywriter/SEO job with them. During my first interview, they told me that I was overqualified for that role and they wanted to instead consider me for a Marketing Coordinator role.
They then ghosted me for over 3 months and then finally responded asking if I was still interested in a Marketing role with Glorious. I told them "yes" and they literally said, "False alarm, we aren't hiring for marketing or social media roles anymore." I can't tell if it's a complete disaster in their HR department, or just an incredibly unorganized company.
Por que no los dos?
Congrats on the accomplishments sorry that happened tho. They are on the balance of being a good company or a bad one
Had a similar experience as well. Made me realize there might be something going on over there. Kinda soured my opinion on them.
Turned into a company I tend to avoid their products now.
Lmao pretty ironic that they're like this and at the same time have a disaster of a marketing team
Seems to me you dodged a bullet!
THIS is the take I've been feeling needed to be expressed for a while about Glorious and where they're headed. They won the favor of so many by making good/affordable alternatives and now this... I used to love their stuff but after the GMMK Pro, I lost it for them. GG's Brian, thanks for letting them know. 🐏
They never really made anything good. All they did was always copy popular products like the finalmouse while having terrible QC
@@Max-ss2gy their mice are great lol
@@rumham9949 their wireless mice are. The model o/o- and the d/d- have horrible build quality i had it for a week and the side buttons fell out.
@@milkkee540 I'm lucky, my model o wired holding well after years of using it daily for gaming. But this numpad thing is pointless for me.
@@LCWPG Your not lucky, hes just very unlucky. I have had a few of their mice and recommended their mice to friends and none have broken in anyway. Usually haters do this, have one bad experience and then chalk it up to the entire product being crappy.
Glorious has gone completely off the rails, did a new ceo take over we didn’t know about? 350 for a fully built gmmk pro?! And another 129.99 for this?!
If you kitted out the gmmk pro before, it got pricey fast, as well.
Now, how they think they can compete with keychrons offers in the budget market (v1,q series, q0), I don't know. Anyone going for more premium options has access to much better offers from other vendors. I have a kbd75 that's the price (combined) of the fully built gmmk pro, that I would venture is much better.
@@tyrosine87 it’s 170 for a barebones gmmk pro. I would argue you could build a comparable board to the fully prebuilt for a decent amount less. Yes it CAN get expensive but play your cards right and you can probably build the whole thing for under 300
Their main motto was “Quality products at an affordable price.” and now turned into “Mediocre products at a premium price.”
@@Djjolly037 pretty sure you can, if you get the cheapest option everywhere/buy everything other than the kit from other vendors, yeah. Still, $300 doesn't really feel entry level anymore.
@@tyrosine87 that we can definitely agree on
As a brand designer who is an avid fan of Glorious, their most recent choices have started raising red flags IMO.
I was super interested in this when they announced it, until I saw the price. That’s insane!
Your honest take on this resonated very similarly to how I was feeling: kinda sour about this whole thing. 😣
As a brand designer
@@Lemonpinesol yessir, as a brand designer :)
as a designer brand
@@arielariel1176 brand as a designer XD
yea, if only there was a blue tooth gasket mounted numpad with a full metal body pre lubed linear switches, rotary encoder, macro slider that didn’t cost 130$
Not sure how Glorious went so far off the rails. $350 for GMMK Pro? $130 for a numpad? Not to mention all the friggin group buys. Cmon son! Whoever is running the show over there needs to take a hard look in the mirror.
And i thought paying over 100$ for three Ql Fans for my pc was dumb. 😆😐
I agree with you 100% on the fact that Glorious used to feel like a brand for the people, I used to be super hype when glorious was dropping something cause they really came with the heat at a good price point. Now it just feels like they are abusing the group buy model, im definetly not a fan of their business practices lately. Sad to see, great review B! Thanks for being honest.
I was an early, early adopter to Glorious mice. I've had 5 or 6 different ones in total between the wired and wireless and I'm still using a GMMK Pro keyboard.... However I feel exactly the same about the direction the company has been moving in and I'm only using their keyboard at this point because of how expensive a decent keyboard build is.
Keep up the good stuff!!
The Keychron keyboard is miles better than the glorious GMMK and not too expensive. Highly recommend it!
I was an early adopter to glorious mice, I had the first wave of the model m and model d. Ive had three of their mice and all ended up breaking in some way before a year. No issues with the keyboards but ive been done with them for a bit now after that.
@@CrystallineLore I've been eyeing the Keychron boards. I'm using the GMMK Pro as well but I want to try the Q1 (I think that's their 75%).
@@barbuganot That's what I have. The first version had a few kinks but the second one is a very great entry board with some pretty darn good customization and isn't mega-expensive. It's the entry keyboard I recommend now pretty much. Way better than any drop makes and though you can honestly debate between it and the GMMK, I think it's a better deal than GMMK.
Once you get some switches of choice (I'd suggest a sampler set) and some nice keycaps, you got yourself a very sexy board.
The Q1 is also a real gasket mount that you can feel unlike the GMMK, which imo makes for a far better typing experience, and it's as heavy as a tank lol.
@@CrystallineLore Im cosidering because of pricing here to get an built q1 and ripp everyting out and put some nice switches in and then finish it with my gmk set that lives for now on my K95 pro.
Wich also had an big issue wich i could fix myself. Otherwise works great.
Corsair is also expensive but makes mostly solid products that have only sontimes some flaws so🤷♂️.
Damn Brian, you went hard on them and I respect you for that.
I could see this thing but in a very different role: as a smart home remote. Encoder + slider + a bunch of keys + Bluetooth is a very unique and useful combination in that role
Well goodluck trying to adjust using their software. Lmao they promised us VIA support 2 years ago and there’s still no updates
I 1000% agree with what you said about glorious as a company. I haven’t felt right supporting them for awhile now. Especially since the knockoff aether keycaps
Brutally honest. Needed from a trusted source. Well done.
glorious seems to have forgotten they made their name on high quality (sometimes) budget options, and seem too interested in now making half assed highish end but not quite good enough stuff they can nickel and dime people with. glad i stopped buying from them after they told me my standards were too high when complaining about qc on a MOW
They made their name by using popular designs and making slight improvements
In between their fashion endeavors and group buys, Glorious speed runs into Finalmouse territory!
not even finalmouse does this stuff LMAO
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
My guy went OFF and didn't miss a BEAT. Love the video, couldn't agree more on everything that was said, good and bad.
FINALLY. I've been waiting for something like this for YEARS. That and keyboards with numpads on the left. Great for productivity.
I’m probably one of the few people who not only one a GMMK 2 but am interested in this product. Here’s my reasoning:
1. I prefer wife’s approval on stuff I buy, 120 on something is easier to get a stamp on than 350.
2. I wanted the 65% layout as I like the minimal aesthetic and ergonomics of it more, but since I work on the computer I wouldn’t mind having access to a numpad on occasion.
3. I like when my stuff matches
🔝🔝🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback,
Expect more videos soon
Send a direct message
I have something for you..……
Glorious has gone bonkers
Tbh if the angle and corner chamfering was matched to the Pro, and it was a Bluetooth / Wireless / wired swappable I would buy it for like 25-50% off the price.
Thank you for being so transparent on this video. It’s so hard to think of this I also had a great thought of glorious that just sort of faded naturally over time then forced negative with all the group buy red flags until they turned into finalmouse in my brain. It can’t be shook when the choices are that way.
The only glorious thing I still have in my daily setup is the xxl mouse pad / desk mat which is again arguably too damn expensive still but an excellent product. What can you really do though in todays world inflation is a bitch and the companies are all doing sketchy shit like this now.
I’d have gladly looked into this numpad at $60-80 but fuck if I’ll even look at specs at that price.
Glorious really only had mt support for their mice. The Model O wireless has been my favorite mouse I've used. When I saw the newer full shell mice I got excited as over time I've grown to dislike the skeletal design if the model O as its annoying to clean. I can't properly express my disappointment when I saw it was a group buy and that it had already ended.
They design a lighter version of the Model O without holes and instead of just releasing that as the Model O v2 they made it a limited time GB, that’s just stupid logic.
I was actually pretty interested in this product to pair in southpaw orientation with a 65% or 75% layout keyboard, especially since it'd give me access to an additional knob and slider,
but after I saw the price I decided to pass on the first preorder batch and do some research first, and I'm glad I did.
I might even still be interested in this product regardless of numpad functionality, reprogramming the keys entirely and just using it like a macro pad essentially, if only Glorious handled the execution better. 😒
This move by glorious makes it seems like they’d be the type of roommate who marks where their oj level was with a sharpie in the fridge but still helps themselves to pizza when you offer
I have no doubt you'll be hitting 1 million+ subscribers one of these days. Awesome job on this as always.
Max Falcon 20 for the win. RGB, your choice of switches, and 5 layers x 20 keys = 100 possible macros. Huge time saver for repetitive tasks in PowerPoint, Excel, and Avid Sibelius. $50 if I recall.
I have a lot of love for the glorious products I've bought. The Gmmk Pro was my first and so far only custom keyboard but it's pretty much perfect to me after some personalization, and the Model D- is one of my favorite ergo mice.
I want the numpad just to have a left side numpad, to save room for my mouse when playing shooter games. But I genuinely don't understand what a second knob is for
another banger of a video, amazing review.
Keep toping your self king 👑❤️
if you are looking for a numpad for macros or for just a numpad, I would recomend the Idabo one. It's a bit pricey and you'll need to get some switches too. But it is solid and I use it every day for work. I use the extra keys for macros, space, tab, backspace, delete, and esc. my only issue, getting keycaps for it, you pretty much have to canabalize a completely separate keycap set, but the extra keys are super handy
I kinda hope more "just a numpad" boards come out, because goddamn, I really fucking hate it when a keyboard doesn't have a numpad.
Certain professions, like a network tech that I am, really benefit from them, including anyone that needs to input RSA keys, but so many laptops and fancy boards don't have them. Also, fuck anyone who doesn't make a numpad keycap set, because how fucking hard is it to make 15 caps, 10 of which are already pre-existing on the base layout.
Ok, I love that you speak out of theeth words. I like that you are not tied to what you will say from each company. For that you deserve a tone of credits BadSeed!
Good on you for being upfront about you affiliations, makes your info much easier to trust
murphpad : )
It's soldered but it's also $34 and has oled and knob
I was contemplating getting one until I heard about the announcement for this and was all for this until I saw everything pointed out in this video, especially that $130 price tag. Now I'm definitely gonna go with the murphpad or similar products
@@thegamerboy1000 Mechwild has some of the most interesting kits.
I'm waiting on the clunker 40 right now.
I still have my old full size GMMK and it keeps chugging along with no issues. I've thought about buying other stuff from Glorious but whenever I looked at their site their prices seemed to be all over the place. Once I saw they rebranded from Glorious PC Gaming Race I sorta understood what was happening. They wanted to pivot from a small company with a dedicated fanbase into trying to compete with bigger companies at bigger price points.
That wouldn't be a huge issue if it didn't come at the expense of everything else, but it seems like they've effectively abandoned entry level customers.
A numpad with a slider and a knob, and bluetooth, and an actual case for $129 isn't anywhere as bad as you might think, relatively speaking. Relatively speaking is the key set of words though. Honestly go shopping for that kind of numpad and you'll quickly realize that it's actually somehow not a terrible deal
When COVID started I was trying to find a good number pad everywhere. I was going to even buy a cheap one and mod it. Recently bought the Epomaker TH21 number pad and after a few mods it's a solid number pad.
Honestly, having a numpad as an engineer does help a lot on doing CAD work
It critical for me working as an accountant
Appreciate your honest take. Subscribed.
I’ve had a lot of glorious products over the years and honestly it took me over a year to get off my a** and put the gmmk pro together after ordering an fr4 plate and gmk keycaps for it. Just to be completely underwhelmed. Oh well, plenty of other peripheral companies out there.
As someone who uses gmk caps on a K95 pro i can say that the caps are great and made th board a looot better, but in any aspect oter than for average gamer joe it is still bad.
I think I'd pay maybe $70-80 for this thing. they're crazy.
I'm new to the custom keyboard scene so I wasn't sure if $130 was a normal price for something like this mousepad. I appreciate your objectivity when it came to critiquing the pricing while still highlighting certain qualities that you actually thought were good. Definitely helped me decide that while the GMMK Pro Barebones was an okay investment, this num pad is not
This is why I watch EVERY SINGLE one of your reviews man. Your honesty is really appreciated. I love the GMMK Pro, and getting it with last year's black Friday deal made it worth it, but this... this is just disappointing coming from Glorious.
Glorious joining the "nah no more list". Right beside Rama and GMK
Bro the fart was everything hahahahhahahaaha
The piece of aluminum this thing is made from definitely adds to the majority of the cost. Bluetooth without the dongle also adds a decent amount of cost.
I agree, the slider is useless since you have the nob for volume. I'm sure if you could make a macro for brightness for the then it'd be great but, that seems more feasible for a laptop than the desktop I use it with.
What's kinda weird is that it goes into power saving mode after a few minutes of inactivity even when it's directly connected to PC via USB.
I did get up upsold on different switches bc I wanted clicky ones to match my keyboard.
Even then $129 is outrageous not counting shipping or any other accessories available.
Really appreciate the transparency/informative macro view of both the product and the company's place in the current market. Cheers 🍻
No punches pulled. I love it. And totally agree; they became that which they promised to fight.
What are numpads/macropads/stream decks that you *do* recommend?
Lol. I bought this preordered this the other day because I need a numpad for work but I find 98% layouts too cramped. I own an RK with the same layout as the Keychron. It’s just too tight to be really effective. And since no one wants to build interesting full layouts, this is a great addition to a TKL
I have plenty of the Glorious mice, model O, O-, D, wireless etc, great mice, but when it comes to their keyboards I passed. I have a number of custom keyboards and most of them are from Keychron, I have almost all the keychron Q models, because I find it fun to customise them and change form factor every now and then and I always know they will work fine out of the box (with Linux as well). I find the keychron prices reasonable and within the realms of the custom keyboards hobby, I would even say very affordable. But I have a hard time understanding where Glorious is going with these products and prices, I think they should be evolving the GMMK Pro brand with new models etc. like keychron does.
"its gross" very well put, could not have said it better myself.
🔝🔝🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback,
Expect more videos soon
Send a direct message
I have something for you..…
Totally agree on your view of Glorious now a days.
I originally thought it was a pretty neat product when I saw it, but as the video went on I found myself agreeing with every point you brought up
Nah, this checks all the boxes for me. A zero-compromise product. I'll use it with my PC for macros for like 10 separate pieces of software, and take it on the go with my laptop for use with tablet mode for drawing, 3D sculpting, brush size, stabilization, hotkeys etc. It doesn't hurt that it's wireless, it doesn't hurt that it has backlight, all that is optional, all it does is increase the price, and you aren't forced to buy it. It is overpriced, but at the same time there's nothing like it on the market. A lite version would be great tho. Without the CNC aluminum. Battery life is a bit disappointing. I don't mind it not being optimized for a southpaw setup. FYI, RGB can be functional, it's not just for aesthetics.
The only reason people have a problem with it is that it's sold by Glorious, a brand that used to be known for good, budget products. And now they're steering away from that brand image. If they released it under a premium sub-brand, then nobody would have an issue with it (similar to Toyota and Lexus). Or better yet, sell it as a 2x as expensive kit via group buys as that sub brand, then it would be sought after and enthusiasts/collectors would salivate over it. But I guess they aren't just some dude doing all that in a backyard shed.
Or you can build yourself a Murphpad, for a similar cost, without backlight, with an OLED screen instead, with DIY build quality, with ZMK, so you're forced to remap your keys by hand in a text editor. No, thanks.
Stop fanboying for brands, people. Love the product instead.
If you just need a numpad with an encoder, I'm a big fan of the CustomMK genesis. It's pretty barebones. Stacked FR4 and Acrylic with rubber feet, but it costs 67$ and has full VIA support, numpad and macropad layout options, and really nice RGB. Plus it seems like they keep it in stock.
But if you don't want to order one online this is the only good option where I live. It's this one or an ugly cheap numpad from Logitech. I prefer the look of this numpad more so it's simple. Cost whatever, I "need" those keys today and don't want to wait several weeks or months for an order from across the globe.
The phrase "jumps the shark" comes to mind - I'm a big fan of this brand - and was looking for a nice num pad that I could use mainly to try/test new switch types but at $130 probably not gonna happen. We have a couple (one for my son one for my wife) GMMK Pro barebones that we built up - probably have about $250-260 in each when it's all said and done - is it worth the $100 more to have it "pre-built" I don't know - perhaps. Personally, I went down a notch to their non-Pro TKL and swapped the switches and went with nicer key caps - I have about $160 in that board and with the exception of the knob (which is cool but may not be worth the $60 more plus switches if you swap out the ones the non-Pro comes with) my board is in the same ballpark, functional but not as "nice" as my wife's/son's GMMK Pro.
Have I been living under a rock? I literally have never heard of this brand. LOL :P
Most numpads I've seen recently are being used as macro pads, so it seems companies are pricing it as dock stations for streamers and other products like it, just disguised as "its a super customizable numpad full of bells and whistles for no particular reason!"
Thanks for this! I received the email not too long ago about the pre-order for this thing and was truly curious. It wasn't all the addons that pushed me away from this item, but it was the price point itself. I could get a the Mountain Core + Numpad and still pay less overall for that than a Glorious Pro + Numpad. I have to agree with many of the commentors as well; what IS going on with Glorious? Why such a sudden turn from affordable entry/mid-game keebs to ... group guys and outrageous price points? /soapbox
Speaking of, do you have any other southpaw style keebs you could recommend?
6:48 Wow Lucious Hair!
One of the best tech reviewers on youtube. Thanks for always being honest and calling out the shady stuff!
So many opportunities to right by the community and they did a complete 180 every time. They're not for enthusiasts and they've been alienating the Gaming crowd too. What's their end-game lately?
Another great review on the product & company. Totally agree with you & always love the honesty.
I need a numpad for work. This one fits all the requirements aside from the outlandish price and the awful logo which guarantees it will only match with glorious boards. Its so close to being exactly what I want and have been trying to find for years, oh well.
Seeing this macro pad makes me appreciate how nice my sun20pro is even with its own problems, at least it looks nice and quality
considering all the cool keyboards that I want nowadays don't have media controls or numpads, this seems like an acceptable compromise.
I really appreciate the criticism about how Glorious has been. They need to hear it. I've always felt like they were really close to greatness, just mismanaged. Well whatever management was steering them wrong just took full control cause this is completely insane.
This is a really good video. I’ve enjoyed Glorious products but watching this video helps clarify some thing I’d been observing but wasn’t sure if it was just me or something more
Love the raw honesty, thanks for the vid! Didn't know OnePlus made keyboard tech...
I have the Mammoth20 on my desk and that beatiful, heavy, solid pice of metal was only $109 plus shipping.
Seems like they are going the Mountain Everest and Asus Claymore route with this - if you bought a TKL but changed your mind after kind of thing.
Funny enough your coverage of the Gmmk Pro brought me into the keeb hobby. After going down the custom keeb rabbit hole I cancelled 2 pre orders of the Gmmk Pro and picked up a KBD67lite and recently a Zoom65. Haven’t looked at Glorious products since then, and this numpad is confirmation that they are still going in the wrong direction.
I like it. I'm probably going to buy one. I have a mode 65, but I like this numpad.
Thanks for the video, I didn’t know about the Q0 and that seems like a no brainer over this, for what I need
You'll need the numpad to add up all of your add-on costs!
Fantastic and amazing video, thank you so much Brian.
Thank you for keeping it real.
*Sees title -* Oh hey, I might FINALLY get a dedicated numpad
*Sees price -* ...excuse me?
Yeah I have the glorious model d, And I saw the GMM two come out, was kind of blown away at the price they were asking.
Sent an email to their sales team, pretty much stating that i'd love to buy one, but after seeing their other keybs around 75 dollars, i think this is a ridiculour price point. I'd love to switch my current game pad
Okay I'm the demographic for this, an accountant. I use the montex pad by idabao as it has basically the same footprint but an additional row and column of keys. I don't know who would pay $130 for a numpad and buy this?! The barebones montex pad is only $80 too....
Harvy Dent said it best, you either die a hero or you live long enought to see yourself become the villain. I narrowed my eyes as soon as I got that first group buy e-mail for the model-O pro.
🔝🔝🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback,
Expect more videos soon
Send a direct message
I have something for you..……
I have a Keychron Q5 1800 keyboard for when I need a numeric pad.
The GMMK Pro was my first custom mech, but man this is way overkill. I am going to build my end game board instead that is 1800 with a 2u zero key on the numpad. Someday....
Why aren't we talking about that flashback to young Brian... I miss the old days of his long flowing mullet.
what's wrong with the pricing? It's competitive or even good. Keychron Q0 with no knob or sliders is like $90. $130 with knob/slider plus wireless. I think it's a steal IMO if it works well
I was considering buying the GMMK Pro plus an aftermarket numpad... whoo boy am I glad I got a Keychron Q6 instead. It's super beefy and I'm really happy with it as my first custom keeb.
I wish I could find a key board with nav + num pad cluster on the left. Or something like this that included the nav keys.
Glorious: From Hero to Zero in a few years.
Written on my GMMK Pro with Keychron Keycaps^^. No prebuild.
🔝🔝🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback,
Expect more videos soon
Send a direct message
I have something for you..…….
ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY DOLLARS LMAOOOO
Did I just heard "BS" from Brian? That sounded good!!! 🤣
🔝🔝🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback,
Expect more videos soon
Send a direct message
I have something for you..……
Got one. It is perfect for my Razer Blade 15 Advanced laptop, though the numpad is very heavy. I bought it for the cnc build quality and wireless features.
I imagine it is best matched to their $169 keyboard. I think it is quality over bargain pricing.
Full transparency
Thank you for calling Glorious out on their bullshit. Their group buy model has been bothering me alot lately. I purchased a Model O when it first launched and thought it was a great thing that a company was bringing an alternative to the orginal finalmouse, that would be readily available. Now it seems that they are just adopting a group buy model in order to instill a FOMO mentality on their customers. This is further proven when you realize that they are a much bigger company now and don’t have to rely on group buys to research and develop their products. Again, thank you for speaking out. I think the only way glorious will change is if it big community leaders such as yourself, speak. Because they are clearly not listening to their customers.
How is group buy bullshit? Its the only way to sell low demand products. Without group buy, those products simply wouldn't exist. And not one person who wanted them would be happy to not have the chance to buy the niche things they want. Left handed people especially. Only razer has the mainstream appeal to sell left handed mice at a profit for example. Group buys are the only way left handed people will ever get the exact not razer mouse they want.
And NO. it is NOT reasonable to sell ANYTHING for a loss or even break even. Thats greed on YOUR part.
Glad I've seen this review. I've been a Glorious fanboy ever since I've gotten a GMMK Pro during the group buy, and also picked up a Model O and had been very satisfied. I got the email for the GMMK Numpad and honestly, at first sight wanted to buy it. I too took a look at current prices and felt taken advantage of, even I can't debate spending almost the same price as the group buy GMMK Pro on a numpad.
Yep i just found out about it today. Excitedly opened the page expecting something reasonable, but i mean a numpad that cost the same amount as the GB for my main keyboard (after adding like a single plate and another small item) is not justifiable
I agred expensive but the guys like us who didn't squint at $350 for TKL can drop $120 easy for a nice RGB numpad ee need for work & can move out of the way for game or on left. And Keychron has a non RGB for $20 less. Hehe. I dont care if it matched. It looks awesome near your favorite keyboard to compliment. (:
That's what I've been thinking. I use to be a huge fan. Fell in love with the Model-O, got the wrist rests thick and thin, then one for brother. I use to highly recommend their mice to all my friends. Now with the group buys and the "guild" emails, I've backed away. Even got myself a gpx. They really became villains.
Oof that price is rough. Thankfully I don't have a need for a numpad. Thank you for your raw honesty!
keychron for me would've been stupid shipping costs, I end up getting barebones GMMK Pro and the V2 GMMK from glorious
Great video and I think your attitudes and sentiments are right on point.
Great to see such an honest opinion about this.