@Jevagen the only reason i only discussed DC is because thats the ability you wanted to bring up. that aside, look at my origional posts about the first set of testing (when i had this stat priority: hit>exp>haste>mastery>crit) where my crit damage was only 5-6% of my damage total. it was incredibly marginal and meager.
get this addon called magic runes, whenever you see a blood or frost rune going off cd use festering strike so it turns into a death rune. This will increase the amount of scourge strikes you can do, thats what helped me the most in increasing my dps..
@Jevagen well lets actually look at this. my toon is now reforged in favor of mastery (i tested it and it does more dps by 400-1k over haste) HOWEVER before making that reforging difference i did some testing and took some screenshots. here is what i've got: Death Coil Damage: Non-Crit:10,029 min/12,001 average/16,867 max --- 83 / 96.5% Crit: 20,962 min/23,160 average/25,133 max --- 3 / 3.5% I had a total of 86 death coils, 3 of them crit. So take the 3 that crit and multiply it by
use blood tap to make from your blood a death rune, use scourge strike on that one, ur the death and frost for festering(if you need extension on diseases) else you will use your horn of winter and use scourge on both the deathrunes you have left, then you will wait for the runes to activate again and use festering strikes, hope its a bit clear
@1994joris my point is this: the information he's giving out (about crit>mastery>exp) is false. he prolly heard it from someone else or read it on EJ and neglected to effectively analyze it and process the thought behind it. he then put that information into a guide that is sub-par at best. he showed us how well he can burst the dummy (thats impressive...) and a very quick overview of some of the minorest things about the class. i have a problem with that, especially when he cant back
@DravenCarey21 It's good to know that people are interested in the actual work. To be brief... 1.) I do alot of research and reading (glyphs, talents, abilities, stats, etc.) I do MULTIPLE tests on the training dummies with recount. Guild members provide extensive data and i spend alot of gold reforging. Raiding helps determine where you stand with your dps somewhat. 2.) It's basically Crit (dmg X2 on all abilities and pet dmg) VS. Mastery (% increase of only shadow dmg)
@Blohupdoll Ok, switched it to EU. #4 has more Crit name is Pumbazz on Blackhand, #5 is Аэрдиль on Fordragon. So, that make 4 of the top 5 With Crit over Mastery.
@Jevagen very cool. At 3:05 in the video, you mention some socket bonuses that I don't i've ever seen. I guess it's just a preference thing though because I go for 99% of socket bonuses.
holy shit this is probably the best spec or anything about a certain class ever, what to reforge gem spec glyph rotation all in one, and he says stuff SLOW and clearly, this basicly told me how to do his dps :D, well if i have the gear
EJ number crunchers value it as lowest also. It's mainly due to most of the damage coming from magic, uh rarely becomes global locked, and overall bad itemization with expertise. Jev you need to update this to include the 4 pc bonus and gurthalak weapon(mastery out weighs crit)
@DravenCarey21 the average damage of a critting death coil and divide that in half (to represent how much added damage it did). so 3 DC's x 23,160 = 69,480 (damge done ONLY BY CRITS) then divide that in half = 34,740 ADDED DAMAGE from it being a crit. now lets look at mastery. i had 86 Death Coils for a total of 1,066,542 damage. multiply that by the +% increase of damage i get from mastery (like you said its 23.5%). 1,066,542 x .235 = 250,637 BONUS damage from mastery.
You say scourge strike should be prioritized over festering, but you clearly use festering at 0:15 when you can still use scourge strike, and your diseases have 25 seconds on them.
@Draven If death coil were the only ability that we used then yes mastery would be superior but its the shadow dmg (blood plague, death coil, shadow portion of SS, DnD, Unholy blight) vs the crit dmg that affects all the previous abilities plus frost fever, melee dmg, pet melee dmg, and Festering strike. You also favored mastery and neglected crit which means your crit was low when you did that test and you're forgetting that raid buffs increase your crit significantly (%5 crit, Agi, Kings, etc)
@DravenCarey21 and the numbers i gave u from that second test (with the DC numbers) i used the same stat weights (not the way i have it now w/ mastery above haste) so there was no incredible stacking. that said raid buffs alone wont make up a deficit of over 200k damage.... (and thats just in 5 minutes)
@tdaniel89 Expertise is poor for unholy because our GCD is so low that we burn through resources faster than we can generate them, resulting in open GCD or periods where we don't have an ability to hit. This is what makes haste so valuable, essentially we are trying to increase our rate of rune regen to the point where we can fill our GCD. Because we can't reach that point atm we can sacrifice expertise because a dodged attack just pushes our attacks back by 1 filling an empty GCD along the way.
I find that Unholy was alot of fun to lvl up with but when I hit 85 I had to switch to frost to improve my DPS. But unholy will always hold a place in my heart.
Heres hoping youre still active! Since Cata Classic is around the corner and the pre-patch just released Ive been scouring the web for guides like these, but none answer my question: At the start of a pull, do you use Gargoyle before Dark Transformation to line it up with pre-pots and trinket procs, or is DT priority?
i play unholy on my 378 ilvl dk and i top out the dps unholy is gonna be the main spec for dks in MoP so start learning it and its not hard to learn it very easy just keep ur dots up and watch ur dps sky rocket
@DravenCarey21 other than that, it was short and simple, it gave a good overview, and your voice is alot better than mine =D but despite my criticisms and prolly a somewhat negative attitude (some guides seem incomplete to me and can lead ppl in the wrong direction) thank you for ur effort in putting this guide together and taking the time to produce something for the community.
@openaccessuser( Incites a friendly party or raid member into a killing frenzy for 30 sec. The target is Enraged, increasing their melee and ranged haste by 20%, but causes them to lose health equal to 2% of their maximum health every 3 sec. ) 2% of your maximum health every 3 sec for the next 30 sec adds up to 20% of your max health lost, and thanks for the constructive criticism about what you would like to see when watching these vids and about the wording on the meta gem.
@Blohupdoll That's of the top 10. Since it wouldn't allow me to use links, I took that out. Ok, lemme give you some names. Filth from Arygos, Gabani from Arzalon, Mercìléss from Moonrunner. They are 1st place, 2nd place, and 10th place. The other US that I could search for was 3rd place which was the only Mastery one of the top 10 that were US. The other countries I could not search unless you can show me a way. Those are the top unholy for Morchok.
DK is the first alt I've made....this is really is going to help me with my DPS off spec...no more "so how's you dps on this one tank fight", it's ummmm, non existent?
@tdaniel89 But too sum it all up...You do lose out on dodged (and parried) attacks that don't land (as every melee class does) but the difference vs the gains from haste and crit are far superior to the gains of expertise (and mastery now as well)
I liked your view on the spec. I prefer to go a different route for how I play, but that's the grand thing about unholy, you can change a few minor talents and still keep high DPS. Been Unholy since wrath and I see no reason to change.
very nice guide, clear and informative, you seem like you were reading off a script tho, which is good to get a point across but you have no flavor in it besides that tiny detail, very good guide and ill be looking for more from you in the future
@dudestick999 Yes i still use death coil during dark transformation when sudden doom procs or to prevent myself from being runic power capped. You can also save your runic power near the end of the transformation so that you can get into a new dark transformation asap.
@CC4PA If you've gemmed and reforged properly according to this guide and your expertise is only at 6 then i'm assuming you dont have the best gear. If you believe your gear is up to par and your expertise is that low then its okay because its last on our priority list, you will be fine :)
@DravenCarey21 I looked up Dravennwoye via armory, you managed to squeeze out an additional 23.5% mastery by reforging the way you did. Now take a 50k Death Coil Crit (this is me being generous) and take 23,5% of that which is 11750 dmg and then weigh it against crit which doubled that dmg... 11750 dmg (Mastery) vs 25k dmg (crit) Like i said before crit affects all your abilities and your pet dmg while mastery only alters your shadow dmg. These are just some of the factors i use to weigh the two
@MrSmeesters The only combat addons that i use are OmniCC, Recount, DBM, and TellMeWhen, as for my macros i use /castsequence reset=30 Outbreak, Essence of the Eternal Flame, Elementium Deathplate Gauntlets, Unholy frenzy and /castsequence reset=25 Summon Gargoyle, Unholy Frenzy and lastly for the action bar on the left above 1-9 etc. i have them keybound as left shift, Hope this helps :D
he didnt really say its THAT important... stat goes.. strength > hit cap> haste > crit > mastery > expertise.... most of the time u will find urself reforging expertise and mastery into haste... u only reforge mastery and expertise into crit when an item is neither reforged for hit nor haste... u might have 1 maybe 2 items that wud be reforged into crit... which isnt a lot.. hence "useless".. by no mean is it useless tho.. its just not one of the more desirable stat.
@BLee1995 Take into consideration that in raids there will be alot of movment from time to time and DW Frost Dps only leads in tank and spank fights imo
@Jevagen care to reply to my other posts? i did more testing (both dummies and in raids) and got the same results that i got the first time. its inferior. but alas, EJ says its the best and the dk's out there w/ the best gear (also strikingly on the top of the meters) follow what it says when i can assure you few of them have taken the time to analyze it themselves. crit is not better than mastery (again see my other posts) and i'd be happy to prove it for anyone who doesnt think so.
@Zhade11 If you're doing everything this video recommended for you to do and you're not a full on clicker, then your gear could be a factor in your low dps. If that is the case then i suggest you play with the frost spec rather than the unholy spec, especially in dungeons. Lucky for you i have a frost DK guide as well, you can find it on my channel.
I have been raiding competitively as a DeathKnight since they were introduced and have yet to see a better instructional video for beginners or people who need to refresh their knowledge about this spec. I applaud you sir :)
Awesome! >:D Sounds cool and all but do you think you could make a DW frost guide too please? I liked your Unholy dps, and I dont see many pull that off, but a frost guide please :D
@Raylol90 The link in the description box leads you to the spec and glyphs i recommend, as for my personal glyphs/spec... i was testing some things out and i havent changed all the glyphs yet. Again this is not the spec you should use, i only recommend the spec/glyphs from the link in the description box
@DravenCarey21 soooo looking at this would you rather have +34.7k damage or +250k damage. you're biggest mistake in choosing crit over mastery is that you neglect to acknowledge how little crit we have. you'd have at most upwards of 10% crit. that means 1 out of every 10 deach coils (or any abiliy) is projected to crit for you. so for every 100 DC's u have only 10 or so will crit (which means only 10 or so benefit from crit rating) as where all 100 will benefit from mastery.
@navydoyle92 this guide was pretty well done and i dont mean to hijack it or anything but to get a better in depth look at rotation (and have me walk you through a 5 minute dps test with commentary) then check out my guide.
Why are you using the Hungering Cold major glyph? I understand the Anti-Magic shell and Strangulate glyph, but the Hungering Cold glyph is Frost DK only. I'd replace it with the Pestilence glyph because it gets a little bit more range to spread your diseases.
@ImFat2011 /castsequence reset=25 Outbreak, Essence of the Eternal Flame, Elementium Deathplate Gauntlets, Unholy Frenzy.... of course i had a trinket and i'm an engineer so not every dk has Essence of the eternal flame and elementium deathplate gauntlets w/ synapse strings, hope this helps :D
@Jevagen It helped in a way, im stuck at a 8k-12k dps, but i need to gem/enchant my gear (which im broke) haha but ur guide is nice i appreciate the upload!
hey, you've made a pretty good guide but there are some things i find questionable (and i could totally be wrong). here they are: 1.) where did you get your info? was it all produced after hours of slaving over a hot target dummy/WoL reports/personal raids? or was it derived from a popular site like EJ? 2.) why do u value crit over mastery when most DK's scourge strike shadow damage, as well as your diseases and DnD, (which are directly influenced by mastery) are near the top of their recounts?
@godlyben2 /castsequence reset=25 Outbreak, Essence of the Eternal Flame, Elementium Deathplate Gauntlets, Unholy Frenzy.... of course i had a trinket and i'm an engineer so not every dk has Essence of the eternal flame and elementium deathplate gauntlets w/ synapse strings, hope this helps :D
Why would you use "Rune of the Fallen Crusader" ? That one only gives a chance to heal you, I think the one that increases your shadow damage done by 20% is better. :)
@Blohupdoll Dude, check out the armories for the top DPS Unholy DK's on Madness of Deathwing from World of Logs. Of the 4 armories I could find 3 of the 4 had Crit above Mastery. Get a new napkin, that on has a bunch of crap written on it.
you clearly haven't played masterfrost then. mastery > haste, and suddenly you have stop facerolling and actually watch runes. haven't touched unholy since wotlk, trying to go back to it now, but I just can't get the dps >.< I just can't get the rotation down.
0:50 talents
1:45 enchants
2:45 Gems
3:45 reforging
4:45 DPS rotation + other usefull spells
@Jevagen the only reason i only discussed DC is because thats the ability you wanted to bring up. that aside, look at my origional posts about the first set of testing (when i had this stat priority: hit>exp>haste>mastery>crit) where my crit damage was only 5-6% of my damage total. it was incredibly marginal and meager.
one of the best videos on unholy DKs ive seen, thanks for the help
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Holy shit. You should read ebooks. Yours voice is perfect.
this may sound weird but, i like this guy's voice
As soon as I tried Unholy spec, I could not go back and change to Frost. Thanks for the guide, it really helped!
get this addon called magic runes, whenever you see a blood or frost rune going off cd use festering strike so it turns into a death rune. This will increase the amount of scourge strikes you can do, thats what helped me the most in increasing my dps..
@420FreeLife hes spec'd into a talent that increases the dmg by 30%, and the dmg/healing of deathcoil by 15%, so it helps the dps
@Jevagen well lets actually look at this. my toon is now reforged in favor of mastery (i tested it and it does more dps by 400-1k over haste) HOWEVER before making that reforging difference i did some testing and took some screenshots. here is what i've got:
Death Coil Damage:
Non-Crit:10,029 min/12,001 average/16,867 max --- 83 / 96.5%
Crit: 20,962 min/23,160 average/25,133 max --- 3 / 3.5%
I had a total of 86 death coils, 3 of them crit. So take the 3 that crit and multiply it by
i think that scourge strike dmg is increased by 54% cuz u got 3 deseaces the 3rd one is Ebon Plaguebringer
@DemLongMusic
His gear is from Firelands, 24k dps was good in 4.2.
Bump for Classic Cata! :D
use blood tap to make from your blood a death rune, use scourge strike on that one, ur the death and frost for festering(if you need extension on diseases) else you will use your horn of winter and use scourge on both the deathrunes you have left, then you will wait for the runes to activate again and use festering strikes, hope its a bit clear
This video took me from 20k dps in TB to about 32k in pvp gear only. Great vid keep them coming! :)
@1994joris my point is this: the information he's giving out (about crit>mastery>exp) is false. he prolly heard it from someone else or read it on EJ and neglected to effectively analyze it and process the thought behind it. he then put that information into a guide that is sub-par at best. he showed us how well he can burst the dummy (thats impressive...) and a very quick overview of some of the minorest things about the class. i have a problem with that, especially when he cant back
@DravenCarey21 It's good to know that people are interested in the actual work. To be brief...
1.) I do alot of research and reading (glyphs, talents, abilities, stats, etc.) I do MULTIPLE tests on the training dummies with recount. Guild members provide extensive data and i spend alot of gold reforging. Raiding helps determine where you stand with your dps somewhat.
2.) It's basically Crit (dmg X2 on all abilities and pet dmg) VS. Mastery (% increase of only shadow dmg)
I thought unholy was a dead spec and I wanted to bring it back. Thank for the awesome guide :D
@Blohupdoll Ok, switched it to EU. #4 has more Crit name is Pumbazz on Blackhand, #5 is Аэрдиль on Fordragon. So, that make 4 of the top 5 With Crit over Mastery.
@Jevagen very cool. At 3:05 in the video, you mention some socket bonuses that I don't i've ever seen. I guess it's just a preference thing though because I go for 99% of socket bonuses.
holy shit this is probably the best spec or anything about a certain class ever, what to reforge gem spec glyph rotation all in one, and he says stuff SLOW and clearly, this basicly told me how to do his dps :D, well if i have the gear
EJ number crunchers value it as lowest also. It's mainly due to most of the damage coming from magic, uh rarely becomes global locked, and overall bad itemization with expertise. Jev you need to update this to include the 4 pc bonus and gurthalak weapon(mastery out weighs crit)
@DravenCarey21 the average damage of a critting death coil and divide that in half (to represent how much added damage it did). so 3 DC's x 23,160 = 69,480 (damge done ONLY BY CRITS) then divide that in half = 34,740 ADDED DAMAGE from it being a crit. now lets look at mastery. i had 86 Death Coils for a total of 1,066,542 damage. multiply that by the +% increase of damage i get from mastery (like you said its 23.5%). 1,066,542 x .235 = 250,637 BONUS damage from mastery.
You say scourge strike should be prioritized over festering, but you clearly use festering at 0:15 when you can still use scourge strike, and your diseases have 25 seconds on them.
@Draven If death coil were the only ability that we used then yes mastery would be superior but its the shadow dmg (blood plague, death coil, shadow portion of SS, DnD, Unholy blight) vs the crit dmg that affects all the previous abilities plus frost fever, melee dmg, pet melee dmg, and Festering strike. You also favored mastery and neglected crit which means your crit was low when you did that test and you're forgetting that raid buffs increase your crit significantly (%5 crit, Agi, Kings, etc)
@DravenCarey21 and the numbers i gave u from that second test (with the DC numbers) i used the same stat weights (not the way i have it now w/ mastery above haste) so there was no incredible stacking. that said raid buffs alone wont make up a deficit of over 200k damage.... (and thats just in 5 minutes)
@tdaniel89 Expertise is poor for unholy because our GCD is so low that we burn through resources faster than we can generate them, resulting in open GCD or periods where we don't have an ability to hit. This is what makes haste so valuable, essentially we are trying to increase our rate of rune regen to the point where we can fill our GCD. Because we can't reach that point atm we can sacrifice expertise because a dodged attack just pushes our attacks back by 1 filling an empty GCD along the way.
I find that Unholy was alot of fun to lvl up with but when I hit 85 I had to switch to frost to improve my DPS. But unholy will always hold a place in my heart.
@TheAlderacsmacker That is still a part of recount, right click recount where it shows your name and dps numbers and then select show real time graph
Best guide I've seen for quite a while. Subbed.
Heres hoping youre still active! Since Cata Classic is around the corner and the pre-patch just released Ive been scouring the web for guides like these, but none answer my question:
At the start of a pull, do you use Gargoyle before Dark Transformation to line it up with pre-pots and trinket procs, or is DT priority?
i play unholy on my 378 ilvl dk and i top out the dps unholy is gonna be the main spec for dks in MoP so start learning it and its not hard to learn it very easy just keep ur dots up and watch ur dps sky rocket
@DravenCarey21 other than that, it was short and simple, it gave a good overview, and your voice is alot better than mine =D but despite my criticisms and prolly a somewhat negative attitude (some guides seem incomplete to me and can lead ppl in the wrong direction) thank you for ur effort in putting this guide together and taking the time to produce something for the community.
@openaccessuser( Incites a friendly party or raid member into a killing frenzy for 30 sec. The target is Enraged, increasing their melee and ranged haste by 20%, but causes them to lose health equal to 2% of their maximum health every 3 sec. ) 2% of your maximum health every 3 sec for the next 30 sec adds up to 20% of your max health lost, and thanks for the constructive criticism about what you would like to see when watching these vids and about the wording on the meta gem.
@Blohupdoll That's of the top 10. Since it wouldn't allow me to use links, I took that out. Ok, lemme give you some names. Filth from Arygos, Gabani from Arzalon, Mercìléss from Moonrunner. They are 1st place, 2nd place, and 10th place. The other US that I could search for was 3rd place which was the only Mastery one of the top 10 that were US. The other countries I could not search unless you can show me a way. Those are the top unholy for Morchok.
DK is the first alt I've made....this is really is going to help me with my DPS off spec...no more "so how's you dps on this one tank fight", it's ummmm, non existent?
@tdaniel89 But too sum it all up...You do lose out on dodged (and parried) attacks that don't land (as every melee class does) but the difference vs the gains from haste and crit are far superior to the gains of expertise (and mastery now as well)
I liked your view on the spec. I prefer to go a different route for how I play, but that's the grand thing about unholy, you can change a few minor talents and still keep high DPS. Been Unholy since wrath and I see no reason to change.
very nice guide, clear and informative, you seem like you were reading off a script tho, which is good to get a point across but you have no flavor in it
besides that tiny detail, very good guide and ill be looking for more from you in the future
@dudestick999 Yes i still use death coil during dark transformation when sudden doom procs or to prevent myself from being runic power capped. You can also save your runic power near the end of the transformation so that you can get into a new dark transformation asap.
@tdaniel89 According to Simcraft, Unholy pulls ahead slightly with BiS H T12 391 gear but the more noticeable difference comes with BiS H T13 410 gear
@420FreeLife its and extra decease that makes you do more damage and it dont take a lot of agro aslong as youre not in blood presence
@CC4PA If you've gemmed and reforged properly according to this guide and your expertise is only at 6 then i'm assuming you dont have the best gear. If you believe your gear is up to par and your expertise is that low then its okay because its last on our priority list, you will be fine :)
@DravenCarey21 I looked up Dravennwoye via armory, you managed to squeeze out an additional 23.5% mastery by reforging the way you did. Now take a 50k Death Coil Crit (this is me being generous) and take 23,5% of that which is 11750 dmg and then weigh it against crit which doubled that dmg... 11750 dmg (Mastery) vs 25k dmg (crit) Like i said before crit affects all your abilities and your pet dmg while mastery only alters your shadow dmg. These are just some of the factors i use to weigh the two
@MrSmeesters The only combat addons that i use are OmniCC, Recount, DBM, and TellMeWhen, as for my macros i use /castsequence reset=30 Outbreak, Essence of the Eternal Flame, Elementium Deathplate Gauntlets, Unholy frenzy and /castsequence reset=25 Summon Gargoyle, Unholy Frenzy and lastly for the action bar on the left above 1-9 etc. i have them keybound as left shift, Hope this helps :D
he didnt really say its THAT important... stat goes.. strength > hit cap> haste > crit > mastery > expertise.... most of the time u will find urself reforging expertise and mastery into haste... u only reforge mastery and expertise into crit when an item is neither reforged for hit nor haste... u might have 1 maybe 2 items that wud be reforged into crit... which isnt a lot.. hence "useless".. by no mean is it useless tho.. its just not one of the more desirable stat.
Hey everyone, For the Reforges use this Addon "Reforgenator" it's Really good for dps (Dps only) Goodluck =D!
well they are all 11years old time messages , I'd say still thank you for the guide , tho I'm pretty deep in this class
You are very welcome!
good to see your alive still. man this is old af. good music btw. you familiar with dj trashy ? u seem to listen to deep south breakbeats!@@Jevagen
@@Bourre-wb4xb Hey buddy! No im not familiar but ill take a listen. Thanks for your support!
@BLee1995 Take into consideration that in raids there will be alot of movment from time to time and DW Frost Dps only leads in tank and spank fights imo
Awesome guide! I loved your frost dk guild but now that buffed unholy I've changed to it
I found this video helpful in many ways.
@Jevagen care to reply to my other posts? i did more testing (both dummies and in raids) and got the same results that i got the first time. its inferior. but alas, EJ says its the best and the dk's out there w/ the best gear (also strikingly on the top of the meters) follow what it says when i can assure you few of them have taken the time to analyze it themselves. crit is not better than mastery (again see my other posts) and i'd be happy to prove it for anyone who doesnt think so.
Cool guide bro :D
So is the frost or unholy better now ?
Thank you so much i had like 17k DPS now i got 27-29k thank you so much this guide where so help full :DDD
thanks man this vid helped me out alot keep posting man your doin great and thanks again
@FlyingCarrotCake I'm using "TellMeWhen" "Recount" and "DBM"
this video really helped me alot, learnd more about unholy
@Zhade11 If you're doing everything this video recommended for you to do and you're not a full on clicker, then your gear could be a factor in your low dps. If that is the case then i suggest you play with the frost spec rather than the unholy spec, especially in dungeons. Lucky for you i have a frost DK guide as well, you can find it on my channel.
Hello mate I was wondering if u keep using death coil while ur pet is at Dark transformation. BTW it was the best unholy guide so far :)
I have been raiding competitively as a DeathKnight since they were introduced and have yet to see a better instructional video for beginners or people who need to refresh their knowledge about this spec. I applaud you sir :)
i enjoyed the way you made the video and song grate job
Nice! Glad to see some good dps outta unholy and the best way to do it!
If you're using Gurth'alak, then yes.
very clear. best guide bout dks ive ever seen :)
Your voice.... Like audible chocolate..
Awesome! >:D Sounds cool and all but do you think you could make a DW frost guide too please? I liked your Unholy dps, and I dont see many pull that off, but a frost guide please :D
@BLee1995 It would appear that DW Frost Dps is doing the most damage up to the new 410 heroic gear
@Raylol90 The link in the description box leads you to the spec and glyphs i recommend, as for my personal glyphs/spec... i was testing some things out and i havent changed all the glyphs yet. Again this is not the spec you should use, i only recommend the spec/glyphs from the link in the description box
@RsnRewind Roll a Frost DK if you wanna play an EASY spec, no skills needed.
@DravenCarey21 soooo looking at this would you rather have +34.7k damage or +250k damage. you're biggest mistake in choosing crit over mastery is that you neglect to acknowledge how little crit we have. you'd have at most upwards of 10% crit. that means 1 out of every 10 deach coils (or any abiliy) is projected to crit for you. so for every 100 DC's u have only 10 or so will crit (which means only 10 or so benefit from crit rating) as where all 100 will benefit from mastery.
You forgot to mention Glyphs. But then again, it's pretty obvious which ones to go for
i like the song
Very informative guide.
I've been frost since... forever. But with this video in my arsenal i can atleast try what it feels like to be unholy :>
@420FreeLife if you r in blood presence
Yea Unholy Dps is good you just have to know how to use it how to use it and gear it up!
Great vid man!!
Any other UH DKs here for Cata Classic??
They're lurking in the shadows.
@navydoyle92 this guide was pretty well done and i dont mean to hijack it or anything but to get a better in depth look at rotation (and have me walk you through a 5 minute dps test with commentary) then check out my guide.
Why are you using the Hungering Cold major glyph? I understand the Anti-Magic shell and Strangulate glyph, but the Hungering Cold glyph is Frost DK only. I'd replace it with the Pestilence glyph because it gets a little bit more range to spread your diseases.
awesome guide broskii, Do u think u can make a guide for warrior tanks?
Yo dude really nice guide it helped me a lot! :
I just wanna know, whats tha name of ur hands , boots and back enchant? Cant find it on ah.
Nice voice.
@ImFat2011 /castsequence reset=25 Outbreak, Essence of the Eternal Flame, Elementium Deathplate Gauntlets, Unholy Frenzy.... of course i had a trinket and i'm an engineer so not every dk has Essence of the eternal flame and elementium deathplate gauntlets w/ synapse strings, hope this helps :D
Woah my dps is Sooo much better now!
@Jevagen It helped in a way, im stuck at a 8k-12k dps, but i need to gem/enchant my gear (which im broke) haha but ur guide is nice i appreciate the upload!
Going from frost DE to unholy 2-hand since its now above 2hand frost...this is going to cost me a fortune with all the reforging I have to do now :(
Thank you very much, i found this video very helpfull since i just recently changed to unholy.
hey, you've made a pretty good guide but there are some things i find questionable (and i could totally be wrong). here they are:
1.) where did you get your info? was it all produced after hours of slaving over a hot target dummy/WoL reports/personal raids? or was it derived from a popular site like EJ?
2.) why do u value crit over mastery when most DK's scourge strike shadow damage, as well as your diseases and DnD, (which are directly influenced by mastery) are near the top of their recounts?
I'm only commenting because I did everything else he told me too.
would be helpful if you spelled out the rotation, you were just smacking the dummy and did not explain it.
your voice is amazing lol!!
@godlyben2 /castsequence reset=25 Outbreak, Essence of the Eternal Flame, Elementium Deathplate Gauntlets, Unholy Frenzy.... of course i had a trinket and i'm an engineer so not every dk has Essence of the eternal flame and elementium deathplate gauntlets w/ synapse strings, hope this helps :D
hit is more important then strenght
Up to which point is hit more important than strength?
you forgot to include Arcane Torrent into regaining runic power.....oh wait....Alliance BLahhhhhhh
@ChemicalBanshees I use this rotation 5:00
Why would you use "Rune of the Fallen Crusader" ? That one only gives a chance to heal you, I think the one that increases your shadow damage done by 20% is better. :)
@2235whatever 4:53 I hope this helps you figure out the rotation :D
@Blohupdoll Dude, check out the armories for the top DPS Unholy DK's on Madness of Deathwing from World of Logs. Of the 4 armories I could find 3 of the 4 had Crit above Mastery. Get a new napkin, that on has a bunch of crap written on it.
you clearly haven't played masterfrost then. mastery > haste, and suddenly you have stop facerolling and actually watch runes.
haven't touched unholy since wotlk, trying to go back to it now, but I just can't get the dps >.< I just can't get the rotation down.
Love your voice! Thank you for this it was helpful.