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You Should Stop Using Webnovel. Here's why...
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2023
- Webnovel is evil. Top 5 Reasons not To Become A Webnovel Author
Webnovel contract: writerbeware.blog/2023/01/20/...
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In this video I will be talking about the top 5 reasons to become a webnovel author. Please don't sign the contract.
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You left out the most glaring issue. When you make a contract with webnovel they own your book. For small time writers, that's not such a big deal but the right of the book are no longer in your hand.
I did mention it though. There is a link in the description to the contract analysis
Back when I was 17, they messaged me saying they wanna contract a book which I had written 3 chapters of with a prologue and extra bonus chapters.
However, my parents didn't agree to let me open a bank account back then so I couldn't do it.
I kinda regretted it back then because I just wanted to try and see how it's like to earn from a book, but I do recall the start of the contract included something like writing a chapter of at least 2k words within a short deadline or something for money that's only worth around 30k pkr (my currency in Pakistan) per month and on seeing the info in this video I feel like the work wouldn't be worth the effort, because once ur only down to mainly earning from royalties, they're probably gonna take a huge chunk from there too.
@@FrozenPulse169 so did they just offer you a contract or did u apply for one?
@@clueloss5373 they offered it on wattpad after I published a book called globally realistic poems and then invited me on their discord server, even finding the guy who originally offered it was a hassle ngl.
@@clueloss5373 offered thru wattpad
I was just using it because I found it and it was there. I was not aware that it was a bad option or that there were better options. I've never spent a single cent on it. I just support the authors as I can without spending money by voting with daily power stones and energy stones, using fast passes to get chapters for free, and giving a review of novels that I've read because I've heard that helps.
Is the application paid?
they also blind your eyes with a flashbang when its dark
Heh, true, I forgot about that xD
@@nikro144 do you know any good sites for a begginer to upload a book, I want to write a book but hate the fast pass system and just want others to enjoy the story I was thinking of just writing very long chapters but realized that the amount of fast passes needed to unlock a chapter will increase, so I was thinking of writing the book on WebNovel but than upload it onto another site so others can read it for free
😂😂😂 fr
I put all my novels in every sites including the evil sites for promotions, but I started uploading in Webnovel and have no idea that they were that evil. I don't know how to cancel my contract to my first book that I've ever published.
From what I know there is no way to cancel the contract with them unless they break some rule of the contract (in example by not paying you money in time.) I think if you already have your work contracted there's probably nothing you can do about it. Webnovel is bad but it's not the end of the world and you can always not contract your next work. I also recommend looking into the article that I linked into the description
dont cancel if you are getting exposure from the site then its good ya know
Webnoveol is more for those who dont care about their rights to the book, like those seeking to just earn some money, or new authors who want experience or need a platform that offers promo. Webnovel does has its pros and cons, you just gotta decide which path is right for you. If your publishing on all platforms and want your rights, but still want to put it on Webnovel, don't sign the contract if you get sent one.
I literally just searched this video after downloading it again after three years. Thanks for the warning, I'm not gonna publish my new book there.
The worst part about Webnovel is their shady affliation and strange silence sometimes but what can you do. Nevertheless there are some novels on RoyalRoad that have succeeded that have their fans who are willing to pay for it. And likewise for Webnovel. For example RoyalRoad has The Stormlight Archive and Mother of Learning. Likewise Webnovel has My House of Horrors and Lord of the Mysteries. For authors who have hundreds of thousands of readers they'd already be satisfied with the cut their getting. It might be small but at least they'll survive with it.
stormlight archive isn't a royalroad book tho? it's a mainstream novel.
Stormlight archive is by Brandon Sanderson bro. He's mainstream. He even finished the wheel of time series.
0:37 I want to correct myself and say that I didn't take story comments into account. That would around double the hosting price, which still isn't a lot for a company with millions of users. Also I forgot to mention they most definitely cover all expenses with just the ad revenue, so everything else goes straight into their pocket.
1:35 Here, I should also say that you can enjoy your book being advertised only if you are within top few of the most earning authors. There are usually some competitions to decide that.
Web novel is popular because big chinese company supports it and since the name itself is the brand that lets it appear in curious readers search results. It is also most pirated site which can be bad sure but also allows for novels to be advertised elsewhere so could work in authors favour. Platform itself makes it easy for new novels to pick up views with heavy advertising and stuff but yeah contract conditions are harsh and would really need to dedicate good portion of time to keep up.
I would be fine with it, if i can use my desktop to read it, instead of being forced to use the app. I wish there was an audio robotic voice to listen.
webnovel has paying customers a lot of them, so for an author its the most feasible choice considering the alternatives. their contracts are absolute shit anyway you look at it .
I use royalroad now for writing my book. I'm hoping to start up a patron while being very consistent.
What's your book
Yeah, royal road are good. I write there myself, already have 3 novel only post Sunday between 3-4pm
When they ask the questio if im satisfied with the site i choose no then they hit me with the message "Mind telling us watch up?"and i ingore i never read novel from webnovel i only check ratings and find them but even the ratings are not accurate some should have 3.0 rather than 4.5.
The fifty percent comes in with in there locked exclusive contract where you give them rights to use your ip in any way they want
I'm working on my novel, building an incredible world and system for it, wanted to publish it on this page and discovered this by chance.. what a bummer
Yea I turned them down. If you read contract carefully they want dibs on future idea. They can also suddenly take the book you’re writing away and assign to another writer
This has nothing to do with the topic of the video, but...
2:01 BRUH WHAT IS THORNS FROM ARKNIGHTS DOING THERE? (The "Transmigated into the..." cover)
Many web novels author are bad at drawing, so they often take art from google image list if they can't or don't want to hire artist to make cover.
Anyway, Thornification! (meme) 😮
I only used webnovel because I got hooked on some of the stories and then got hooked on some other stories. Before I even could understand how much I was spending, over $1000 was gone. Hence why I couldn't just stop using the app, I had to firmly uninstall it.
Wow that's unfortunate... Though I can't figure out how people get hooked in webnovel stories cuz they're kinda average for the most part
Don't say that@@nikro144.The peaks of webnovel storys can be truly high.
Gracias amigo, thanks
So which platform will pay good and have large audience where i will get recognised and money
Wattpad or royal road
@@ParasAgarwal-cx8tl royal road pays well?
I already been using this Webnovel app in 2020 and this is my favorite app in life for free reading and i decided to be a webnovel writer with no contact editor
You don't even get to read for free on webnovel. Only for the first chapters
@@nikro144 well the chapter are payment but I choose to read fanfiction and free pirated webnovels chapters in other websites that why
@@nikro144 If you search enough you find them
@@nikro144 I already read with fanfiction and pirating chapters in other website for reading
Youre a spy sent from webnovel
I was offered an exclusive contract but I rejected it for months now, it is free to read but I am looking for a way to earn money as well.
By the way, you can check out my novel. It is called "The Lone Star's Epilogue."
Most of the series in the top ranking isn't even that good, it's just popular because of all of the advertisement, it doesn't guarantee good quality
What about the Sneak preview? Shouldnt the authors make a lot more money here of super fans?
The problem is the cut that webnovel takes which is huge. 50% is simply too big for what they give in return which is basically nothing. Yes, you can make money on web novel, maybe even a lot if you're in top 20 authors. But as a user I'd expect most of the money I give to go to the author, not some Chinese company.
Do you have any recommendations other than that site?
Royal road
Yup, royal road good
Hey man do you know where i can get the mod version of webnovel
Did you find out?
If you're curious, some contracted writers with accounting degrees calculated and the share is approx 28%
This is MUCH higher than other webplatforms. WN actually has one of the highest net shares lol
As a WN author, I don't mind this because the breadth of reach (hundreds of thousands) it gets my story is absolutely worth it.
Not everyone believes they'll make it big lol, some of us are satisfied with what WN offers. It's too out there to call it 'evil'. 😅
People don't understand that tradpubs will give their BEST authors an 8% revenue share. Maybe 16% if you're someone like King who is guaranteed to make enormous amounts. It's hard to grasp just how badly writers get screwed.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Yeah. Webnovel at 28% is, like, the highest already.
From what I've been hearing from other authors, most others like goodnovel etc really give 8%, some even less.
But yeah if you want money and not the hassle or the investment, Webnovel is a pretty decent way to go about it imo
I wrote a book and now I don't know how to delete it because I need to change many things and now it won't let me help please.
Its impossible to delete a book on webnovel, but you can unpublish your chapters
I've deleted my book on webnovel
So stop spreading false rumor, author chose to write that it's all fantasy
@@DeraDamsel and how did you do that?
@@DeraDamsel i see now there is an option to delete the book when you go to book info. Pretty sure there wasn't such option there back when this video was being made because I looked for t an couldn't find it anywhere. There were some updates to the app recently, perhaps they added the option
50% revenue is bad by the standards of game and video publishing, but it's incredible by the standards of publishing. Only really Amazon and other similar sites like WN can compete with that. Traditional publishers take between 90%-96% of the revenue of your book. Although trad pubs will publish your book for 'free' while WN won't, do you think that's worth 90% of your revenue?
i wanna get a contract but i don't know if I even should I feel like they will just take my credit card information and leave
At least with traditional publishing there are actual costs, and this site I could pretty much host on my home pc. Also, I understand they needed developers and all that but it's really nothing compared to what they earn.
@@nikro144 The traditional publishers have no excuse to take 90+% of your profits, that's not overhead for them, it's just always been the standard to screw over authors. I mean, sure, compared to YT and Steam, WN's offer is low, but authors don't get to publish their books with YT and Steam - those aren't options. For what authors get, WN is one of the best offers. (KDP gives you 70% but it's wholly self-published. No editor, no promotion, no connections, nothing)
@@nikro144 do u know the other sites who take like 75% of your income they can't be called evil lol
the fuck are you talking about? its 10 to 15%
Um whats the replacement for webnovel?
Royalroad is better imo
Does it have shadow slave?
If it's webnovel exclusive then probably no
I already tried it doesn't have taking mafia to another world or the golem mage it doesn't suit my taste anyways thanks
Any website you would like to refer for full time writers?
I'd personally use all the sites I could find. Mostly the ones mentioned in the video
@@nikro144 Ah I see thanks for replying
I think the only reason to use webnovel is to get the exposure 😔
You don't actually get a lot of exposure from them though, because they fake the view count on your story. in reality it's about 5-10 times smaller than it looks
@@nikro144 How would you know that? And how exactly do they count views? I'm curious
@@jochnes8832you can try it yourself, it scales in proportion with the amount of views, go on a story and just keep refreshing the page while counting how many times you did it, and you'll see the view counters being updated anywhere from around 10 to as high as 100 or 1000 times the actual clicks
@@jochnes8832I tested it in my alt acc so yesterday my first book only got 22 views but when I use my alt account to view it, it instantly got to 30 and then I refreshed it, it turned into 40+ everytime I refreshed it it increased. So basically when a reader views your book but didn't read it the views increases and it's alot. I hope they add Reads per chapter in webnovel
@@nikro144 how do you know that
How to earn money on web novel please explain 🤔?
u get a contract on ur book and get high exposure with it
Like webtoon, they are vampires.
Am a reader an wed novel is ezr then most novel sits
Yez u defnetely smok to much wed
Well I don't spend money 😂
The problem is that if you don't spend money u can't read more than like 30 first chapters
I know that's why I use several apps to read use daily pass and read atleast 5 locked ch a day
@@piyush-jh8gwMay I inquire?
@@nikro144 bro I only collect fast then use it to read many chapters for free😂
Hi, WN author here~
Since you're wondering why people keep using the app, it's because WN pays well overall lol.
The breadth is also wide and the exposure is great.
Of course, most of the time, your story has to be marketable to do well. They have a BUSINESS and they have no obligation to cater to our ideals.
Like I said, think of it as a deal.
They naturally choose and promote books that make them money. In turn, you use their clout to get your book to a wider audience and earn from it.
So choose your platform well because some genres and tropes do better in other platforms
How much do you earn for you to make such a bold claim? Not hating since it has some good books there as well
@@phageofficial404 I'm not making as much as the ML, but it's been two months since I've gone premium and earned over 2k USD (earned 400usd on first month, then earned 1900+ on second, excluding tax and bank charges)
Note: This is already the higher end though for FLs. I heard ML earn much higher lol
If I were to estimate (just MY estimate!), the standard FL writers that had built a fanbase (i.e. updated daily for a few months) should earn at least 400-600usd a month even if they no longer update daily (must still update a few times a week tho)
For MLs... I hear the Top 100 earn at least 1k USD a month, and Top 50 and top 25s earn MUCH higher than they do
Again, these are just my estimates based on what I hear from other authors lol. It's different person to person.
@@phageofficial404don't get your hopes up. By paying well he means paying well by third world standards.
u are everywhere nispedana lmao
@@maroindefinitlyhuman6857 if you are a t25 author u can get by living off even in first world country
Solo leveling
...is bad
Contract of wn is not bad, ofc if the authors has many times to writing their story! Easy to get promotion by the editors and will increase your income.
It is bad though. I recommend checking the article i linked in the description.
I use webnovel because I'm not trying to make income from my book
I am using mod apk
That's cool. Do you have unlimited coins?
Really??
Please share I need it
Just shutup after earning alot of money from it you want to discourage others
Dude I haven't made a cent
Dude are you drunk?
My G, 50% is literally industry standard. Amazon takes about the same cut, and the same goes for twitch. Heck, I think they even upped it to 70% now.
Plus, why would people read in WN?
Well, RR is for western audience and Scribblehub? That’s for mainly horny teens. Not that Webnovel is better, but it at least has some good stories unlike scribblehub which is a mess.
The eroge stories can be found anywhere though but yeah I agree 😂