Dumbest post ive seen so far. Cringey too for using the word “literally” too much. Hater about something that youre not even sure it works. Ive had mine for a while and so far no issues. If you have issues with windows 11 and you dont know how to fix it, you might want to stop building and selling pcs lol.
if you complain about win11 on the ally than you also will have a problem with those pc, expecialy with the graphics cards, those things cause WAY more problems than win11
@@JosephJoestar888 after meeting space you should know that that thing won't overheat... but still... The thermal performance or rather the overall performance could be better if they used Valves or made their own OS based on Linux.
@@tobihudiat Hey man , I am confused right now between the two devices as I am going to be purchasing one next week. Sorry but what is meeting space ? What is your honest opinion between the two if you have to pick one. And also If I play 50% of the time on turbo will it affect the device on the long run. Sorry for the big message.
@@JosephJoestar888 I have both. Both feel polished. The steam deck is more comfy and to play any more demanding games you need a charger on the Ally like all the time. The Deck has a MUCH better battery life and two trackpads which I did not think I would use them that often but they are a Bless! I also like the Steam UI and resposiveness much more. The Deck is also more stable with the FPS and does not flaxuate that often and with the Deck. I would go with the steam deck if you don't play Windows exclusive games that have Anti-Cheat. I think the ROG Ally and Steam Deck have their Pros and Cons. You need to decide if you want to game without a charger but have less performance or with charger but have more performance. Also think that the ROG Ally 2 will also use a custom Linux Distro to juice out even more Performance and Battery.
My windows 11 and windows 10 crashes pretty frequently. All I’m trying to do on it is play games lol. I hate windows but it is what it is. If you pick up an rog ally couldn’t you just install Linux and default to steam big picture on launch? That would fix the problem right there.
The whole windows 11 things is WAYYY over exaggerated. Name one operating system that doesn’t have a bunch of problems you run into, and im coming from linux
Nah I want a Legion Go but even I agree Linux is a superior operating system and I own a Steam Deck. Sorry but it's less powerful than both ROG Ally and Legion Go and can play less games.
Absolutely wrong. Windows 11 is terrible compared to almost all previous iterations. Ridiculous bugs, performance issues that reset themselves randomly after you fix them. So many other things that just didn’t exist before 11.
I personally have the ally and so far have not had any of the problems hes discussing. Works like a champ. Not being a fanboy. I honestly expected pc issues like normal. But so far its been smooth. 1 issue.i had was the virtual keyboard didnt come up once. A restart fixed it and havent had a issue since. Especially after all the updates have been completed
@@walternicol4151 just don’t force turn off your device for the first 2 weeks that you have it. Remember to install all windows updates, then disable automatic installs. That basically prevents all black screens from occurring.
@@Zero_Tester Not if you are getting it at way cheaper price. But Rog Ally will be future proof to some extent. As it can easily run AAA games that are releasing this year with more than adequate performance.
What peoples don't understand about the ally is that it's a hand held gaming pc, not a handheld gaming console. It's like comparing the quest 3 to the apple vision. Are you gaming or are you working. Peoples just ask too much.
@@gbeo778To be fair, Windows is definitely not made for handhelds. I believe that someone was working on a handheld mode for it, but until then, it's really not meant for handhelds. Plus, the battery life is probably worse than the Steam Deck. It doesn't matter if the games run better if the battery life is worse.
I think everyone in the comments misinterpreted the point of the video: he was talking about how unstable and poor optimized was Windows 11.Thats it.He was even talking about how powerful was the Ally compared to the Steam Deck
The issue is that windows 11 IS stable and optimized. Probably the most stable windows has ever been. It's been a full two years since I've seen a bsod on my windows 11 laptop.
@@Codyslx I used Windows 11 for like 2 years until 2022 when I switched to Linux and it was a horrible experience:opening the file manager made my desktop restart itself,sometime when I was using Virtual box my system just have a BSOD 1 or 2 times a day And it was a ASUS Tuff Dash F15 2022 laptop,it wasn't an underpowered laptop
@@Codyslx You're right, Windows 11 is pretty stable nowadays, but stability is not the issue, it's how unbelievably bloated and inconvenient Windows 11 is in a handheld mobile device. You have issues like being forced to log-in to a Microsoft account and having Edge crammed down your throat, and there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it even as a power user. Not to mention all the telemetry and other random garbage running in the background stealing precious RAM and CPU cycles. It's a terrible combination for a mobile device. The reason SteamOS works so well on the Deck is because Linux is a completely open and modular platform. everything down to the very kernel can be tweaked and adjusted to perfectly suit the hardware. this is why the deck can rival or sometimes outperform the ROG Ally at lower TDPs. Only downfall is that developers of the WINE Windows translation layer don't have access to Windows source code so everything has to be reverse engineered from scratch. Windows is a closed-source proprietary platform that only Microsoft has control of. There's really nothing ASUS can do to optimize it for their hardware. If ASUS went with a Linux distribution and refined it, the ROG Ally would completely wipe the floor with the Steam Deck in almost every single aspect including battery life and performance at lower TDPs.
@@chitan1362 Power users can uninstall edge using winget and windows does not steal ram. It simply doesn't waste it. If ram is available it will use it as cached memory to speed up certain processes. If more ram is needed, the os will dynamically empty the ram.
@@chitan1362 Power users can uninstall edge using winget and windows does not steal ram. It simply doesn't waste it. If ram is available it will use it as cached memory to speed up certain processes. If more ram is needed, the os will dynamically empty the ram.
Facts im loving mine and this is my first "gaming cpu". To me, this is like android and the deck is like apple. This thing requires you to knkw wtf youre doing while that deck is just simple.
@@Francehelder it is! the good thing about steamOS (and linux in general) is that they dont shove stuff in your face! its also a lot faster without the microsoft store and copilot bullshits that they put in windows 11 (im not sure if they are also present in ally). i'd also rather trust my data with valve than microsoft. i dont have either of these devices, but from what ive heard, the steamOS is in a different league in terms of performance
I love my ROG Ally. So much better than the Steam Deck. If Steam Deck had Windows I would have bought Steam Deck OLED. Steam made a huge mistake with their OS
Windows 11 hasn't crashed on me at all since I built my new PC in Dec 2021... People still riding the 'windows unstable' meme from the Vista days like it's still relevant.
Windows 11 is absolute trash, coming from someone with buyers remorse. I've gotten the blue screen, which fixed itself thankfully, updates ALL the time, sketchy almost forced MS account in order to finish setup? Also has an antivirus running at all times, if you manually end it, it will just come back or flatout deny your request. I dont know this dude, but that is a solid reason to stick with a steamdeck, especially now with the OLED, which is also cheaper than this. To each their own ofc.
I think mine took about an hour and I was up and running. But if a learning curve using windows 11 on a handheld but once you get the hang of it, it’s great. Been playing Red Dead Redemption 2 on high settings and for the first few hours I had a big smile on my face… feels like the future tbh lol
@@chase_rowell depends on the situation though, the user experience is way better on the deck since it's not Windows and steam constantly supports their OS
@@KebabFlying eh... Actually its just a small difference, and there is even some exception with some games where Steam Deck actually better. Windows is just holding back Ally so bad compared to Linux
Well, Windows 11 once you keep it up to date and make sure you don’t miss any important updates it runs just fine. It’s not too different than playing on an actual gaming computer which also runs Windows, but it’s cheaper and more portable.
@@teetogoaroson1392 there aren’t too many small laptops with a decent performance to play most games, most portable gaming laptops are 14” and they cost more or a lot more than this device. They are not worth it imo. This device may not appeal to most people, but it offers portability, decent performance when you are on the go and the price is competitive. Windows is a plus, as it will just get better overtime with updates and gives the benefit of installing many programs and emulators. Some people are just nit picking the device.
The Ally is a monster. Cinebenched it and the CPU scored 13,000 in R23. That's the same as a 10700k or 11600k. And it's a darn handheld! You could literally use it for mobile editing. Blows the Deck out of the water.
What about the GPU, though? The 13600K is an even better CPU, well, CPU-wise, but I wouldn't say a PC running on its integrated graphics is better than the ROG Ally.
@@eribetra It's probably similar to something like a GTX 1660. Decent, definitely behind the CPU in terms of power. I scored 14k today with it. That's quick, definitely has the legs to do more than just game.
$700 is on the lower/decently priced side of things when it comes to these devices. It’s actually great for what you get. I think sometimes we just like to assume the worst case scenario based on other people’s opinion/bad experiences or maybe a bad experience of our own and that draws the line. But in reality the experience has been nothing like the fear of the experience was initially. I think it’s important to take the factual proof of good experiences and let go of the theoretical bad experiences. Also, nothing is perfect.
I may have misphrased my comment, what I meant to say is that when you're paying such an amount (which is still a lot, even though you're getting what it's worth), you'd want the experience to be as inclined to your liking as possible. I do know nothing can be perfect. I honestly agree with what you said after that, experience will always be better than the 30 seconds opinion of someone who doesnt even have experience, but I still think it's important to learn the more you can about an object you're interested in before spending all your bucks on it.
@Rickoto even the steam deck isn't perfect in canada I had to pay 750 dollars for the 256gb model last year. Some games don't run or you have to switch into desktop mode than launch for it to work. Even games that are stated to work sometimes don't work. The steam deck should have no issues running tales of berseria but it can't unless you run the refresh rate at 58hz. None of the ys games besides ys8, ys9, and ark of naphistam work properly the others have bad issues even tho they are games that ran on the psp. It's easier to emulate them then to run them on steam.
@@thetshadow999animates9 skill issue. The only time you're gonna have a problem with windows 11 is if you've installed it incorrectly or if you installed it on a 12 year old pc lmao
No it hasn't. It was a leaked prototype that didn't have the dev resources needed to finish. Maybe it'll come out, maybe not, but it's definitely not confirmed or announced.
yea i grew up using windows aswell. switched to linux like almost like a year ago, never looked back since. tho imma get the ally just because i need the performance.
@@huseyinatayilmaz8475 How’s Linux compared to Windows? What are ur thoughts? Was Linux quite difficult to use at the start or did u get used to it quick?
Dont get it for me. Always grew up with windows all the way from windows xp. So i was exctird for windows handheld. Never used steamdeck before but tbh for me even if it is pain in the ass i want more options to customize and be able to play w.e i want. So far rog ally is really good for people who dont mind tweaking and trouble shooting. I am loving mine.
Don’t let this video discourage you from buying Asus rig ally. When steam deck released there are tons of bugs and issue but they constantly releasing patches and updates.
First off, Valve did nothing special with SteamOS. They did not invent Kde. It is just Arch tested held back with a locked root system. They mainly developed Proton and Steam Big Picture Mode. Second you can’t really legally make a distro of Windows at least not without the consent of Microsoft which will ask you why you need it
@@jimmyneutron129 I had KDE way before SteamOS... I never mentioned that Valve made KDE. I even have KDE merch at home ^^ I already know what SteamOS really is... Just seamlessly gaming without thinking that you have Linux with all the troubles it can offer is just amazing. It is locked down like Fedora Silverblue and Kinoite but you can easily disable it if you want with one custom command they made.
@@CJTheTokay every SteamDeck owner I know, bought the cheapest version and upgraded it either with high speed SD card or by swapping SSD. It's way cheaper, and you're basically getting the same console but for a much lower cost
@@Rikonardo i wasn't downplaying the lower end steam deck i was just saying that the higher end steam deck is the most popular and the ally is only $50 more at double the performance the ally at max tdp is basically my 1650 pc
My ROG Ally with the 7600MT Dock work great together. Ive been a handheld gamer most my life and this thing is the most amazing unit I've ever owned. Windows hasn't been that much of a problem the only other issue I have is the Asus repair process but I am pretty handy so its not been an issue.
As a father of 2 under 2 ROG Ally is the best gaming device I have ever played on, I pick up and play literally any game I want when I get a chance, they look great, preform great and doesn’t lack anything a normal gaming device has. Great buy.
idk why some people say windows 11 bad. ive had windows 11 for year and no crashes or problems... yeah theres updates but they take 3min and can be done same time as youre sleeping
Honestly I just think it's the cool thing to do right now. People hate the forced updates and what not but at the end of the day you're going to need those updates for security reasons and to just stay up-to-date they hate the bloke as well but that could easily be fixed and uninstalled. Yet the steam deck is constantly being f****** updated and they look at that like god tier stuff for some reason
1, windows 11 was like that about a year and a half ago and it’s mostly improved now. 2, with the 599$ version coming out soon this will be a no brainer for portable gaming
Your reason for not wanting the Ally was the only reason I bought an Ally. Because it had windows not linux. If I wanted a PC handheld I would buy a linux based steam deck. If I wanted a gaming handheld the windows based choice is obvious.
I've had mine for a while now and I gotta say its a hidden gem. On turbo mode it performs like a beast and will get you 2 hours of solid smooth gaming.
I had an top of the line asus laptop with windows 11 It was good until the mere actuon of open the file explorer completely bsod' my laptop every 3 times a boot
The armory crate program helps organize all your storefronts and your games. That helps a lot. It's not perfect, but it works. I do not regret selling my steam deck for Asus rog ally!
"For those of you who say Rog Ally is Steam Deck killer, I would not agree with that, for the people saying Steam Deck is Rog Ally killer, I would not agree with that" - Mr. Sujano
A literal handheld gaming beast of a PC and you're complaining about Windows 💀 I'm pretty sure a handheld PC with windows is perfectly fine, especially considering it's better than the competition in all other ways
@@randomguy15865 How does acknowledging being spied on by an operating system you bought with your money that is supposed to be yours make me an ai? Windows 11 is a scam, maybe i don't appreciate everything i do on the device i paid for being logged and fingerprinted. I'm objectively right.
My Z1 Extreme has given me zero issues and i play Starfield, D4, WZ and a bunch of other Steam games. Only issue is the battery life but the Ally is on another level of portable gaming.
I've been using win 11 and it crashed once, maybe twice on me and I was editing photos/videos, playing games and other stuff. Now win 11 is almost done project.
Can you tell me if I can play games like horizon forbidden west complete edition, avatar frontiers of Pandora and RDR 2 offline on it? Or do I have to connected to internet everytime? Please 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Really? I don't hate the ROG Ally but I do hate having to return it due to hardware faults ijn the controller. And yes, the W11 implementation is poor in Armoury Crate.
The only problem with Steam Deck is any game outside of their network can be a pain in the butt. If SteamDeck made it easier to run epic games or blizz games, i think it be a no brainer. For now ASUS ROG ally x and even Legion Go allows me to play and run almost anything without being worried or enclosed into a tribalism mindsiet
Honestly the only thing that is annoying is the random mandatory (make you plug it in if it’s not) firmware updates that pop up within a black box. Other than that there’s really nothing wrong with it imo. There’s probably ways to postpone updates for later that I don’t know of but still, don’t feel like I should have to do that. Nonetheless it’s not much of an issue since I have it plugged in for the most part anyways.
@@FizzDoesContent it’s a thing on activated windows 10 too. 11 isn’t bad though, it was actually faster for me (I’ve been testing using it since the first insider preview build so I may be biased). Start11/ExplorerPatcher and the registry fix for menus can make your 11 feel more like 20
Bought a Steam Deck before, didn't enjoy it. Traded it with the ROG ally. It was the best trade because shop thought they got 512gb without checking it properly I manage to trade it into an Upgraded 2 TB Rog Ally.😅😅😅
Soo i am a rog ally user and i have use it for a couple months and I LOVE IT❤ because windows 11 opeing files or other normally like zip file they open normally and i love it and rog ally and ni problem with windows 11 Edit: took me 20 min to setup ally
Thats weird bc i have no issues at all from windows 11. I have no crashes i update when i want. So no issue for me. Also no pop ups as u say. Maybe im one of the lucky few then????
Yeah doesn't really seem like too many people have. People just see others bashing it and go along with it, when most of them have been on windows 10 the whole time, lol.
@@arkcorps9138 not everyone needs to be a( toxic) fanboy like you to express their opinion. who said i was a steam deck fanboy?butthurt by the truth huh i used to have asus product and you can see how the rog is doing right now,not that great but blind fanboy like you will defend it like their life depends on it.funny
@@arkcorps9138I have a steam deck and I think the ally is better, steamos and Linux is a pain tbh you need to go through 50 different hoops to get AAA games to work on it
Lot of deflection going on when dude literally told you SteamOS can be installed. Just say you do not want to buy/not interested in it I mean that was probably the more sensible thing to say. What probably happened is you assumed SteamOS could not get installed on it and you are tryin to save face.
Yeah i get the complaints for sure. I have an Ally X and i absolutely love it. Im 100% happy with it and glad i got it over the Steam Deck. HOWEVER, I do emphasize with the Windows 11 gripes. Its a little annoying to use with the touch screen and a lot of times games dont work well with the gamepad so you gotta remap stuff and change a bunch of things in settings and that alone can be a pain in the ass using your finger as a mouse. Luckily you can use a Bluetooth mouse and that makes it a million times easier to get your settings done then switch back to the gamepad.
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Dumbest post ive seen so far. Cringey too for using the word “literally” too much. Hater about something that youre not even sure it works. Ive had mine for a while and so far no issues. If you have issues with windows 11 and you dont know how to fix it, you might want to stop building and selling pcs lol.
what OS do they run? it better not be windows 11!
if you complain about win11 on the ally than you also will have a problem with those pc, expecialy with the graphics cards, those things cause WAY more problems than win11
lmao, prebuild pc's from some RUclipsr
I would never buy from you.
It's literally no different than a gaming PC lol. My Ally took 30 minutes to setup and it's been perfect ever since
Hey dude can u test 2 games for me? Its not launched in india so i can't one now
Is there any heating issues?
@@JosephJoestar888 after meeting space you should know that that thing won't overheat... but still... The thermal performance or rather the overall performance could be better if they used Valves or made their own OS based on Linux.
@@tobihudiat Hey man , I am confused right now between the two devices as I am going to be purchasing one next week. Sorry but what is meeting space ? What is your honest opinion between the two if you have to pick one. And also If I play 50% of the time on turbo will it affect the device on the long run. Sorry for the big message.
@@JosephJoestar888 I have both. Both feel polished. The steam deck is more comfy and to play any more demanding games you need a charger on the Ally like all the time. The Deck has a MUCH better battery life and two trackpads which I did not think I would use them that often but they are a Bless!
I also like the Steam UI and resposiveness much more. The Deck is also more stable with the FPS and does not flaxuate that often and with the Deck.
I would go with the steam deck if you don't play Windows exclusive games that have Anti-Cheat.
I think the ROG Ally and Steam Deck have their Pros and Cons. You need to decide if you want to game without a charger but have less performance or with charger but have more performance.
Also think that the ROG Ally 2 will also use a custom Linux Distro to juice out even more Performance and Battery.
If your windows 11 is crashing, you’re doing it wrong bruh.
😂facts it’s most def a skill issue or he upgraded from 10 without doin a clean install
Windows is a shity OS, if you use a good Linux distro you notice this
My windows 11 and windows 10 crashes pretty frequently. All I’m trying to do on it is play games lol. I hate windows but it is what it is. If you pick up an rog ally couldn’t you just install Linux and default to steam big picture on launch? That would fix the problem right there.
Windows 10 > 11
@@odselu most linux distros are easier to install than windows.
The whole windows 11 things is WAYYY over exaggerated. Name one operating system that doesn’t have a bunch of problems you run into, and im coming from linux
My dad is a Linux user and he'd take a bullet for the operating system from how much he's praising it over any other operating system.
Nah I want a Legion Go but even I agree Linux is a superior operating system and I own a Steam Deck. Sorry but it's less powerful than both ROG Ally and Legion Go and can play less games.
Absolutely wrong. Windows 11 is terrible compared to almost all previous iterations. Ridiculous bugs, performance issues that reset themselves randomly after you fix them. So many other things that just didn’t exist before 11.
I had windows 11 and was so fed up I downgraded back to 10. It broke all of my mods when I switched to 11
I personally have the ally and so far have not had any of the problems hes discussing. Works like a champ. Not being a fanboy. I honestly expected pc issues like normal. But so far its been smooth. 1 issue.i had was the virtual keyboard didnt come up once. A restart fixed it and havent had a issue since. Especially after all the updates have been completed
Virtual keyboard you can force open by [back button / up on d pad]
Beware of the black screen after windows update kicks in
Same! I got mine today
@@walternicol4151 what black screen are you talking about
@@walternicol4151 just don’t force turn off your device for the first 2 weeks that you have it. Remember to install all windows updates, then disable automatic installs. That basically prevents all black screens from occurring.
After watched this video I preordered the rog ally
Is GPD Win 4 good alternative
😂😂 when people complains over windows in favour of Linux that makes me laugh.
Gotta love when the video that is giving you reasons not to buy a device ends up influencing you to buy said device! 😀👍
@@Zero_Tester Not if you are getting it at way cheaper price. But Rog Ally will be future proof to some extent. As it can easily run AAA games that are releasing this year with more than adequate performance.
@@Zero_Testeryes
What peoples don't understand about the ally is that it's a hand held gaming pc, not a handheld gaming console. It's like comparing the quest 3 to the apple vision. Are you gaming or are you working. Peoples just ask too much.
steam deck is literally the same thing, it runs Linux
Pretty sure you're gaming on both of these
My man is upset that he didn’t get a payed sponsorship😂
😂😂😂
Lmao fr
did bro just say “payed”
hope he never gets it in the future also xD
bro fr lol
Valve must be paying all these people to talk shit about the rog ally 💀
Facts lmaoo this guy said yeah it does everything better I just don’t like windows 🤣
agreee 😂😂😂
DUDE I SWEAR
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@@gbeo778To be fair, Windows is definitely not made for handhelds. I believe that someone was working on a handheld mode for it, but until then, it's really not meant for handhelds. Plus, the battery life is probably worse than the Steam Deck. It doesn't matter if the games run better if the battery life is worse.
I think everyone in the comments misinterpreted the point of the video: he was talking about how unstable and poor optimized was Windows 11.Thats it.He was even talking about how powerful was the Ally compared to the Steam Deck
The issue is that windows 11 IS stable and optimized. Probably the most stable windows has ever been. It's been a full two years since I've seen a bsod on my windows 11 laptop.
@@Codyslx I used Windows 11 for like 2 years until 2022 when I switched to Linux and it was a horrible experience:opening the file manager made my desktop restart itself,sometime when I was using Virtual box my system just have a BSOD 1 or 2 times a day
And it was a ASUS Tuff Dash F15 2022 laptop,it wasn't an underpowered laptop
@@Codyslx You're right, Windows 11 is pretty stable nowadays, but stability is not the issue, it's how unbelievably bloated and inconvenient Windows 11 is in a handheld mobile device. You have issues like being forced to log-in to a Microsoft account and having Edge crammed down your throat, and there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it even as a power user. Not to mention all the telemetry and other random garbage running in the background stealing precious RAM and CPU cycles. It's a terrible combination for a mobile device.
The reason SteamOS works so well on the Deck is because Linux is a completely open and modular platform. everything down to the very kernel can be tweaked and adjusted to perfectly suit the hardware. this is why the deck can rival or sometimes outperform the ROG Ally at lower TDPs. Only downfall is that developers of the WINE Windows translation layer don't have access to Windows source code so everything has to be reverse engineered from scratch.
Windows is a closed-source proprietary platform that only Microsoft has control of. There's really nothing ASUS can do to optimize it for their hardware. If ASUS went with a Linux distribution and refined it, the ROG Ally would completely wipe the floor with the Steam Deck in almost every single aspect including battery life and performance at lower TDPs.
@@chitan1362 Power users can uninstall edge using winget and windows does not steal ram. It simply doesn't waste it. If ram is available it will use it as cached memory to speed up certain processes. If more ram is needed, the os will dynamically empty the ram.
@@chitan1362 Power users can uninstall edge using winget and windows does not steal ram. It simply doesn't waste it. If ram is available it will use it as cached memory to speed up certain processes. If more ram is needed, the os will dynamically empty the ram.
Have had ZERO issues with Windows11. 🤷
Same
same....
Same cant understand the Windows 11 bashing
Same
Facts im loving mine and this is my first "gaming cpu". To me, this is like android and the deck is like apple. This thing requires you to knkw wtf youre doing while that deck is just simple.
This anti windows argument is getting old the Ally is literally the best lol
Apparently, it's better running Steam OS.
@@Francehelder it is! the good thing about steamOS (and linux in general) is that they dont shove stuff in your face! its also a lot faster without the microsoft store and copilot bullshits that they put in windows 11 (im not sure if they are also present in ally). i'd also rather trust my data with valve than microsoft.
i dont have either of these devices, but from what ive heard, the steamOS is in a different league in terms of performance
This is the most stupid opinion I've ever seen
Agreed
It seems like the only opinions this guy has
I love my ROG Ally. So much better than the Steam Deck. If Steam Deck had Windows I would have bought Steam Deck OLED. Steam made a huge mistake with their OS
@@stevenk628Why? Windows is an extremely bloated OS with bad optimization. Sure there are a few compatibility issues but Linux has gotten better.
@@DopterosIt has gotton better but still miles away from windows when it comes to compatibility.
Bro said about how much window 11 can cause a problem , but managed to show an error from window XP.
Windows 11 hasn't crashed on me at all since I built my new PC in Dec 2021... People still riding the 'windows unstable' meme from the Vista days like it's still relevant.
@@xcassets3303windows can be unstable and annoying..if you never update your machine, load it up with junk, have a lot of bloatware, etc lol
@@xcassets3303just like so many people are still using the meme "Linux users trying to install a browser"
Bro we need to evolve
he's just paid to do this, he dont know shit about what he's talking
Windows 11 is absolute trash, coming from someone with buyers remorse. I've gotten the blue screen, which fixed itself thankfully, updates ALL the time, sketchy almost forced MS account in order to finish setup? Also has an antivirus running at all times, if you manually end it, it will just come back or flatout deny your request. I dont know this dude, but that is a solid reason to stick with a steamdeck, especially now with the OLED, which is also cheaper than this. To each their own ofc.
I got one. Spent over 2 hours doing updates (windows and bios updates). A little frustrating but now that it's set up...works great.
I think mine took about an hour and I was up and running.
But if a learning curve using windows 11 on a handheld but once you get the hang of it, it’s great.
Been playing Red Dead Redemption 2 on high settings and for the first few hours I had a big smile on my face… feels like the future tbh lol
@geterhero You can do the same thing on a steam deck though?
@@joeldejonge2986 you can't play red dead 2 on high at 1080p don't lie.
@@Badboy25251Literally it does play it.
@@destruxandexploze2552 being able to play it and playing at 1080p high are two different things.
How about when Asus makes you buy it twice when you send it in for repair??
This
Right to repair. I fix my stuff myself. If you can't well...
Im getting a job this summer, excited to finally be able to buy all the stuff I want!
Did you get a job ?
@@kjw7556blud got rejected from his interview 💀💀
bruuh, don't forget to save your money. house price is not makes sense now
Did you lose your virginity?
@alvathoni that's so far out of the reach of most now anyway.
Having Windows 11 is EXACTLY why I'm looking at the Ally. I can just dock it to an external monitor and use it as a normal PC.
Have you done that ?
Exactly the same with the steam deck and can install windows as well
@@HugoElcabezasemulating Windows 😂 instead of natively running it with way better hardware
NOT EMULATING INSTALL WINDOWS NATIVELY @@patrocn35car
@@patrocn35carno... you can nativity run Windows on the steam deck
Just set up Bazzite on my ally. Works just like a steam deck now.
There’s also CachyOS Handheld Edition.
Imagine if everyone didn't buy laptops because they had windows 11 lol
Yeah he can just get steamos
That would be amazing. Windows currently has a monopoly on the operating system market.
@@valblazeytbecause its really good and reliable for work. The only reason why it crashes is because people run crapy programs that arnt built right
thats my reason
@@olibobs1411ehh 11 isn’t amazing. I rely on it for work and win10 was much better. Both are a far cry better than 8/8.1 though
W11 since 22H2 has been absolutely perfect. Never had compatibility issues even before and it works flawlessly.
I have the normal Z1 given as a gift and can tell you it's still brilliant with all the software updates. No complaints at all.
I absolutely love the Asus Rog Ally. It runs and looks so good. Especially for emulating, it’s perfect. Only complaint is the battery life, that’s it.
I was about to get a steam deck but now might get this.
@@chase_rowellfans are much quieter than steam deck
@@chase_rowell depends on the situation though, the user experience is way better on the deck since it's not Windows and steam constantly supports their OS
@@TheLuckster true.
The performance of the ally is crazy, if you have the money to spare it’s worth it
@@KebabFlying eh... Actually its just a small difference, and there is even some exception with some games where Steam Deck actually better.
Windows is just holding back Ally so bad compared to Linux
Steamdeck cant play ALL GAMES, While ROG Ally can because of the directx architecture. SMH
Well, Windows 11 once you keep it up to date and make sure you don’t miss any important updates it runs just fine. It’s not too different than playing on an actual gaming computer which also runs Windows, but it’s cheaper and more portable.
Then why not get a small gaming laptop instead
@@teetogoaroson1392 there aren’t too many small laptops with a decent performance to play most games, most portable gaming laptops are 14” and they cost more or a lot more than this device. They are not worth it imo. This device may not appeal to most people, but it offers portability, decent performance when you are on the go and the price is competitive. Windows is a plus, as it will just get better overtime with updates and gives the benefit of installing many programs and emulators. Some people are just nit picking the device.
The Ally is a monster. Cinebenched it and the CPU scored 13,000 in R23.
That's the same as a 10700k or 11600k. And it's a darn handheld! You could literally use it for mobile editing.
Blows the Deck out of the water.
What about the GPU, though? The 13600K is an even better CPU, well, CPU-wise, but I wouldn't say a PC running on its integrated graphics is better than the ROG Ally.
@@eribetra It's probably similar to something like a GTX 1660. Decent, definitely behind the CPU in terms of power. I scored 14k today with it. That's quick, definitely has the legs to do more than just game.
I love how you're getting absolutely DESTROYED in the comments 🤣🤣🤣
Windows 11 being the soul reason to not get this is CRAZY 😅 loving it so far
If you're playing 700 bucks for something, I'd understand if you want it to be perfect.
$700 is on the lower/decently priced side of things when it comes to these devices. It’s actually great for what you get. I think sometimes we just like to assume the worst case scenario based on other people’s opinion/bad experiences or maybe a bad experience of our own and that draws the line. But in reality the experience has been nothing like the fear of the experience was initially. I think it’s important to take the factual proof of good experiences and let go of the theoretical bad experiences.
Also, nothing is perfect.
I may have misphrased my comment, what I meant to say is that when you're paying such an amount (which is still a lot, even though you're getting what it's worth), you'd want the experience to be as inclined to your liking as possible. I do know nothing can be perfect.
I honestly agree with what you said after that, experience will always be better than the 30 seconds opinion of someone who doesnt even have experience, but I still think it's important to learn the more you can about an object you're interested in before spending all your bucks on it.
People are entitled to have their reasons to not buy a 700$ machine
@Rickoto even the steam deck isn't perfect in canada I had to pay 750 dollars for the 256gb model last year. Some games don't run or you have to switch into desktop mode than launch for it to work. Even games that are stated to work sometimes don't work. The steam deck should have no issues running tales of berseria but it can't unless you run the refresh rate at 58hz. None of the ys games besides ys8, ys9, and ark of naphistam work properly the others have bad issues even tho they are games that ran on the psp. It's easier to emulate them then to run them on steam.
I have had Windows 11 from day one and have not had one problem ever.
No one has.
@@3katdthat’s a lie, I’ve had many problems with Win11 myself as have many others.
@@thetshadow999animates9skill issue
@@thetshadow999animates9 skill issue. The only time you're gonna have a problem with windows 11 is if you've installed it incorrectly or if you installed it on a 12 year old pc lmao
@@thetshadow999animates9skill issue
I have an Ally with Win11 and I have not had a single issue with it so far. Plays everything I can throw at it just fine. Really cool piece of tech.
Why are people butthurt with windows 11. Can’t handle some updates and you call yourself tech people 🤦🏻♂️
personally I enjoy windows 11
@Dnizzle25 as long as it keep the OS running smooth I can deal with the updates.
@@Vtech82 Yup same here
You can also literally schedule updates. I have my PC and HTPC scheduled to update while I'm sleeping.
10 is better
Thank you for this video. Your video convinced me to get one for me and one for my partner. No regrets!
@Hobokitty lol
700$ when its new, but if you look for used ones you can find one easily for 300€=383$ in France so for me its okay !
Well in my country rog ally z1 extreme become 400 dollar.
@@yusufrifan3072 that's awesome !
Windows handheld mode has been announced. I have high expectations
No it hasn't. It was a leaked prototype that didn't have the dev resources needed to finish. Maybe it'll come out, maybe not, but it's definitely not confirmed or announced.
@Starmast3r Since prototypes exist, it means that it's almost ready to roll out. I expect it to be out before 2024.
@@dimi_dr It was a leaked prototype made for an employee hackathon, not an actual product. We'll see though.
@@RupertBundemno
@@RupertBundem no problem man 👍
Windows does have a few commonly known bad apples, but thats what i grew up with using ever since childhood so Windows 11 is all good for me lol.
It is like getting out of abusive relationship with abusive girlfriend, and ended with another abusive gf. Very sad lmao.
yea i grew up using windows aswell. switched to linux like almost like a year ago, never looked back since. tho imma get the ally just because i need the performance.
@@huseyinatayilmaz8475 How’s Linux compared to Windows? What are ur thoughts? Was Linux quite difficult to use at the start or did u get used to it quick?
@@nileredsexperiment834 it's pretty annoying. Windows has its problems but nothing compared to Linux and proton .
Dont get it for me. Always grew up with windows all the way from windows xp. So i was exctird for windows handheld. Never used steamdeck before but tbh for me even if it is pain in the ass i want more options to customize and be able to play w.e i want. So far rog ally is really good for people who dont mind tweaking and trouble shooting. I am loving mine.
I bought mine yesterday and it’s 10/10 all around. Windows 11 isn’t for everyone but I have zero issues!
Don’t let this video discourage you from buying Asus rig ally. When steam deck released there are tons of bugs and issue but they constantly releasing patches and updates.
If they are going to make a own Distro like Valve did, I will be amazed!
fork of steamos smh
@@Jokypond SteamOS is a fork of Arch. I think they will be using Arch to make their own OS. OR really use a fork of SteamOS but that would be crazy.
@@tobihudiat they wouldn't, windows and game compatibility and accessibility
First off, Valve did nothing special with SteamOS. They did not invent Kde. It is just Arch tested held back with a locked root system. They mainly developed Proton and Steam Big Picture Mode. Second you can’t really legally make a distro of Windows at least not without the consent of Microsoft which will ask you why you need it
@@jimmyneutron129 I had KDE way before SteamOS... I never mentioned that Valve made KDE. I even have KDE merch at home ^^
I already know what SteamOS really is... Just seamlessly gaming without thinking that you have Linux with all the troubles it can offer is just amazing. It is locked down like Fedora Silverblue and Kinoite but you can easily disable it if you want with one custom command they made.
I prefer the ROG ally because over half the games I play are third party games that are not on steam.
But it would’ve kind of looked bad to have and old version windows that is losing support soon on a brand new system and would’ve cut its life span
I think they meant a custom Linux OS similar to the Steam Deck
It would still give the user the option to 'upgrade' to windows 11 if want3d though
It's better to use windows 10 till an actual software for the Ally is available.
So just flash a custom build of Linux like valve did. Linux with proton runs the vast majority of games well.
@@Dragonlord826You're never gonna get good/decent game compatibility with Linux
I also don’t know how it can be called a steam deck killer when it’s 700$
because its better at only $50 more than the most expensive steam deck which I might ad is the most popular steam deck according to valve
@@CJTheTokay every SteamDeck owner I know, bought the cheapest version and upgraded it either with high speed SD card or by swapping SSD. It's way cheaper, and you're basically getting the same console but for a much lower cost
@@Rikonardo i wasn't downplaying the lower end steam deck i was just saying that the higher end steam deck is the most popular and the ally is only $50 more at double the performance the ally at max tdp is basically my 1650 pc
@@CJTheTokayThere is no lower or higher end steam deck. Just a higher/lower storage version
@@ij6708 that was what i meant i feel like that was self explanatory
My ROG Ally with the 7600MT Dock work great together. Ive been a handheld gamer most my life and this thing is the most amazing unit I've ever owned. Windows hasn't been that much of a problem the only other issue I have is the Asus repair process but I am pretty handy so its not been an issue.
Since the ASUS ROG Ally runs Windows, that means I can easily crack my games in the device so for me, Windows is not a downfall.
it is stiil downfall. playing crack games is nah, better throw your console, when you cannot buy games
@@melmarmanzon7837 i got the ally and lemme say it is totally worth it so duck off
You can do that on Linux too
I thought you were gonna say battery instead of windows 11
As a father of 2 under 2 ROG Ally is the best gaming device I have ever played on, I pick up and play literally any game I want when I get a chance, they look great, preform great and doesn’t lack anything a normal gaming device has. Great buy.
Tell me you can't use a PC without telling me you can't use a PC.
idk why some people say windows 11 bad. ive had windows 11 for year and no crashes or problems... yeah theres updates but they take 3min and can be done same time as youre sleeping
Same here
Honestly I just think it's the cool thing to do right now. People hate the forced updates and what not but at the end of the day you're going to need those updates for security reasons and to just stay up-to-date they hate the bloke as well but that could easily be fixed and uninstalled. Yet the steam deck is constantly being f****** updated and they look at that like god tier stuff for some reason
think biggest issues with windows in general is bloatware and spyware that cant be easily removed last good version of windows was win7
@@Eskoxo bloatware comes with only prebuilds
@@noilok_ tell that to all the "apps" that spy on you that come standard with windows
1, windows 11 was like that about a year and a half ago and it’s mostly improved now. 2, with the 599$ version coming out soon this will be a no brainer for portable gaming
The open box perfect condition z1 extreme version is around $420 in Canada
@@datazen936 How tf? Is it that low
Your reason for not wanting the Ally was the only reason I bought an Ally. Because it had windows not linux. If I wanted a PC handheld I would buy a linux based steam deck. If I wanted a gaming handheld the windows based choice is obvious.
I've had mine for a while now and I gotta say its a hidden gem. On turbo mode it performs like a beast and will get you 2 hours of solid smooth gaming.
I dont understand why people hate win 11. ive had no problems at all and i like the look of it.
People hate change and marginally some dislike where Microsoft is going (more ads more telemetry more lock up)
I had an top of the line asus laptop with windows 11
It was good until the mere actuon of open the file explorer completely bsod' my laptop every 3 times a boot
I've had issues with stability when I tried windows 11 on my workstation
that little thing runs games better than my fucking pc
The armory crate program helps organize all your storefronts and your games. That helps a lot. It's not perfect, but it works. I do not regret selling my steam deck for Asus rog ally!
Wdym? steamdeck also has this feature. Launchers like heroic games launcher can add epic games game to steam big picture
"For those of you who say Rog Ally is Steam Deck killer, I would not agree with that, for the people saying Steam Deck is Rog Ally killer, I would not agree with that"
- Mr. Sujano
Best way to phrase they're for 2 different types of ppl!
ROG stands for Subscribe to Mr. Sujano
Wait ROG is now STMR?
🚫 Don't recommend this channel.
Why?
@@The4x4Nomad why ask why have you had you a bud dry?
@@The4x4Nomadbecause the channel is so biased and he changes his mind every 5 minutes.
Thanks
Womp womp.
I got one and honestly no complaints at all runs everything very smooth no pop ups and updates are not often but yes it’s worth the money get one
A literal handheld gaming beast of a PC and you're complaining about Windows 💀
I'm pretty sure a handheld PC with windows is perfectly fine, especially considering it's better than the competition in all other ways
Cool but all the cpu isn’t gonna be good when it’s being used up by bloat
windows 11 aint that bad
as a daily driver it had never crashed on me
True.
Very nice now show me the telemetry windows 11 collects without your consent.
@@presleynotalt5530 you're an ai who has been thought by those youtubers it's sad to see ppl like you 😭
@@randomguy15865 How does acknowledging being spied on by an operating system you bought with your money that is supposed to be yours make me an ai? Windows 11 is a scam, maybe i don't appreciate everything i do on the device i paid for being logged and fingerprinted. I'm objectively right.
My Z1 Extreme has given me zero issues and i play Starfield, D4, WZ and a bunch of other Steam games. Only issue is the battery life but the Ally is on another level of portable gaming.
I don't like that the ally comes with a $200 repair for a dent...
I've been using win 11 and it crashed once, maybe twice on me and I was editing photos/videos, playing games and other stuff. Now win 11 is almost done project.
So should I get windows 11?
@@IampaztroNo if you don't want another Spyware on your pc
@ToastyMoon no there's lots of hidden telemetry and spyware that is forced on windows
@ToastyMoon how do you know it's actually disabled?
@@IampaztroIf you like the lok of it yes but you don't get anything much more than windows 10
Just got one for $200 from some guy selling it locally. Runs great and was an absolute steal! 🎉
Consider putting steam OS on ally?
This is how it should have been from the start, but perhaps a custom Linux distro.
I bet that computer you got there is running on windows 11😂
Windows 11 runs pretty dang good on it and it’s a million times better then the steam deck it runs game so much better but it needs a bigger battery
Can you tell me if I can play games like horizon forbidden west complete edition, avatar frontiers of Pandora and RDR 2 offline on it? Or do I have to connected to internet everytime? Please 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
The fact that it's got windows on is why I want it tbh 😅
Exactly learning how to use Linux has been hell but now it’s okay just got my ally I don’t see me touching my steam deck any time soon
Got mine and its awesome. It's not hard to figure out the updates 😂 same as having a gaming pc using a controller
Just bought one today… it’s pretty awesome so far!
I had the ally, returned it after 2 days, I just didn't have the patience for windows 11 on a handheld.
and yet so many people are simping for it XD not me though
Man even a 7 year old kid can set this up maybe buy a ps5 less complicated for you lmao
This dude has been on a ROG Ally hate train for some odd reason.
Really? I don't hate the ROG Ally but I do hate having to return it due to hardware faults ijn the controller. And yes, the W11 implementation is poor in Armoury Crate.
@@fmulleady always wait couples of months before buying a new device.. the z1 extreme work as intended
valve gave him a free steam deck, thats why
The only problem with Steam Deck is any game outside of their network can be a pain in the butt. If SteamDeck made it easier to run epic games or blizz games, i think it be a no brainer. For now ASUS ROG ally x and even Legion Go allows me to play and run almost anything without being worried or enclosed into a tribalism mindsiet
If windows 11 is crashing for you, sounds like a skill issue
Totally 😂 this guy only bashing his skill issues
It’s not a skill issue when windows 11 won’t run the programs I want it to run because it isn’t compatible. Windows 10 has no compatibility issues.
Wow I think it’s better to buy the 700 custom pc that you built. Also I have ur 250 dollar pc the only reason I use it to play valorant
Yeah I’m building around a 600-700 pc and it will be better then this but the handheld is a pretty cool luxury even if you have a pc
or a 700$ rtx 3050 laptop
@@sourpenguin360with $700 you can get a pc with a much better RTX 3060 ti or a 6700 xt.
Nah some ppl love that it’s a handheld instead of mouse and keyboard and portable
Honestly the only thing that is annoying is the random mandatory (make you plug it in if it’s not) firmware updates that pop up within a black box. Other than that there’s really nothing wrong with it imo. There’s probably ways to postpone updates for later that I don’t know of but still, don’t feel like I should have to do that. Nonetheless it’s not much of an issue since I have it plugged in for the most part anyways.
Not only that, but Asus customer service is shit. Good luck
That’s why my computer still runs windows 10, and I will not allow it to run anything else
Don’t fcking update it
Windows 10 if I update too the newest they are starting to force pop ups on ur screen to update to windows 11
@@pattemplayzDid you activate your win 10?
@@FizzDoesContent it’s a thing on activated windows 10 too. 11 isn’t bad though, it was actually faster for me (I’ve been testing using it since the first insider preview build so I may be biased). Start11/ExplorerPatcher and the registry fix for menus can make your 11 feel more like 20
@@FizzDoesContent I didn’t say mine I said windows 10 is doing that that RUclipsr said that
Bought a Steam Deck before, didn't enjoy it. Traded it with the ROG ally. It was the best trade because shop thought they got 512gb without checking it properly I manage to trade it into an Upgraded 2 TB Rog Ally.😅😅😅
Can't you just flash a steam OS bios on the Ally?
Yes
ETA Prime did it
Steam deck has way better controls and an operating system that takes up a reasonable amount of ram usage
true!
Exactly. at the main Gaming mode screen only about 300MB of RAM is used. Compare that to the 3GB I've seen Windows 11 run at.
Soo i am a rog ally user and i have use it for a couple months and I LOVE IT❤ because windows 11 opeing files or other normally like zip file they open normally and i love it and rog ally and ni problem with windows 11
Edit: took me 20 min to setup ally
Gamers nexus has joined the chat
You're one of those "trust me bro" type of dudes. Irrelevant
This just convinced me to purchase one!! Your reason for not purchasing is not even an issue for me, as I know how to use windows 😂
Thats weird bc i have no issues at all from windows 11. I have no crashes i update when i want. So no issue for me. Also no pop ups as u say. Maybe im one of the lucky few then????
The video seems like a rage bait post for engagement
Yeah doesn't really seem like too many people have. People just see others bashing it and go along with it, when most of them have been on windows 10 the whole time, lol.
I have the ROG Ally and experience none of this. Runs games flawlessly!
for now...wait for it 😂
@@chuck25steam deck fanboys can’t fathom the Ally being better lol
@@arkcorps9138 not everyone needs to be a( toxic) fanboy like you to express their opinion. who said i was a steam deck fanboy?butthurt by the truth huh i used to have asus product and you can see how the rog is doing right now,not that great but blind fanboy like you will defend it like their life depends on it.funny
@@arkcorps9138I have a steam deck and I think the ally is better, steamos and Linux is a pain tbh you need to go through 50 different hoops to get AAA games to work on it
Ur right the windows completely kills the device constant updates that slow the device down and make it glitch unless u keep updating
u missed out… it’s awesome.
loved my Steam Deck… love this more
Sounds like a guy making excuses for really being broke...
Got a steam deck with Windows 11 on it, and have had no problems running games.
Unless I can install SteamOS im not touching it
You can, HoloISO
@@warbird11_ Its not the same
@@kittenzrulz it pretty much is steamos with more device support
@@warbird11_ It lacks power control, at that point I might as well install Arch.
Lot of deflection going on when dude literally told you SteamOS can be installed.
Just say you do not want to buy/not interested in it I mean that was probably the more sensible thing to say. What probably happened is you assumed SteamOS could not get installed on it and you are tryin to save face.
Im thinking on bying Asus Ally X . Many say its better than the ROG one
I bought it and 7 months in it has been a total pain in the ass I do NOT recommend this.
Why?
Somebody needs to try to get SteamOS on it
HoloISO
Someone already did just look on RUclips
zach: windows meh
bazzite: say less
zach: steam os on an ally? wha?!
bazzite: the future
Steam deck fanbois: steam deck is better than samsung washing machine.
You consistently have bad takes and complain about things that are resolved by little to no effort. The average consumer.
I've never had a problem with windows 11. On like 4 different systems.
I return them i bought 2 of them and both got burnt up and black screen i return them to best buy.
Yeah i get the complaints for sure. I have an Ally X and i absolutely love it. Im 100% happy with it and glad i got it over the Steam Deck. HOWEVER, I do emphasize with the Windows 11 gripes. Its a little annoying to use with the touch screen and a lot of times games dont work well with the gamepad so you gotta remap stuff and change a bunch of things in settings and that alone can be a pain in the ass using your finger as a mouse. Luckily you can use a Bluetooth mouse and that makes it a million times easier to get your settings done then switch back to the gamepad.