Visions are generally and I would theorize always, received AFTER the goal has been achieved. Beidou is classic example. It's true that after Liyue and Mondstadt the number of exception increased from about zero to maybe 20% but the rule is certainly still very much in favour of Visions not being given at a time to be helpful to a main fight but rather recognition for winning. Where the ambition is more like a lifetime commitment the vision comes after (not before) that commitment is made. Where the ambition is a lifestyle that has no particular commitment moment it tends to arrive while conducting the work of the lifestyle at any ordinary time a few years in to doing that form of lifestyle regularly. From Liyue / Mondstadt the exceptions are Kaeya, who is probably lying about exactly when he got his Vision (to protect his secret close association with Diluc), and arguably Razor who gets a Vision after getting his ass kicked but then goes on to have a second battle against the same Abyss mage. In Razor's case the commitment is not represented by either the initial loss or subsequent victory in a fight but by his commitment to protect his Lupical which he achieves even by losing the first fight. In Inazuma Sara and Sayu also get visions after losing fights by (presumably - it's hard to say for sure) making commitments based on their losing experiences. In Sayu's case arguably the vision arrives in time to help her flee the scene.
Theres a lot of exceptions though, Dori got her vision when she resolved to be rich not when she was already rich, Ayato got his when we was still a kid but only after talking to his father about taking over and not after he revived his clan, ningguang got hers as she was coming up with a business venture but by that point she had already been quite successful as a businesswoman. Yelan also received a vision when she decided not to rely on others for her line of work when her team all died. Yoimiya randomly got hers while making some fireworks and chucked it aside for some time. Yaoyao also got hers pretty early before really accomplishing anything That said theres also those who got them after achieving something like rosaria who gained one after obtaining her freedom, cyno who got his right before becoming the general mahamatra and the numerous you mentioned. I like to think that with celestia being comprised of probably more than one god each one of them has a different reason to grant them to different people which is why each vision story seems inconsistent with the next. I also have this headcanon that the gods see beyond the current occurance and maybe grant them based on who they could become but not always
Not just Beidou that have super human power withou vision Capitano rumor to be the stronggest human in tevyat and Varka has meet capitano and confident he able to fight and wins again Capitano also make him one of stronggest human
Yes, you're right capitano is considered to be crazily strong for a human and honestly someone I for sure pulling for. That said thought these types of humans are pretty rare only with beidou and capitano or maybe im forgetting other characters who are crazy powerful
If I recall correctly, i seem to remember varka saying he was no way even on the same level with capitano, which just tells you how crazy strong capitano is. I also recall reading somewhere that capitano is just outright the strongest human. That said Varka is also said to be crazy strong and i've heard rumours he dual wields claymores 😂 which is just nuts and I hope that gets implemented lol. Unfortunately I havent played Honkai so I cant really say what hed end up looking like but his vision being cryo would fit in with the theme of knight of boreas
@@alihmaulaakmal Wouldnt that be funny like summoning his character gets you 1 claymore and to get the second one you have to summon in the weapon banner 😂
Beidou is so cool. Definitely the most badass vision story.
I don't recall any who cut the head of a monster like this, and thats before her vision so yeah pretty badass
Visions are generally and I would theorize always, received AFTER the goal has been achieved. Beidou is classic example. It's true that after Liyue and Mondstadt the number of exception increased from about zero to maybe 20% but the rule is certainly still very much in favour of Visions not being given at a time to be helpful to a main fight but rather recognition for winning. Where the ambition is more like a lifetime commitment the vision comes after (not before) that commitment is made. Where the ambition is a lifestyle that has no particular commitment moment it tends to arrive while conducting the work of the lifestyle at any ordinary time a few years in to doing that form of lifestyle regularly.
From Liyue / Mondstadt the exceptions are Kaeya, who is probably lying about exactly when he got his Vision (to protect his secret close association with Diluc), and arguably Razor who gets a Vision after getting his ass kicked but then goes on to have a second battle against the same Abyss mage. In Razor's case the commitment is not represented by either the initial loss or subsequent victory in a fight but by his commitment to protect his Lupical which he achieves even by losing the first fight.
In Inazuma Sara and Sayu also get visions after losing fights by (presumably - it's hard to say for sure) making commitments based on their losing experiences. In Sayu's case arguably the vision arrives in time to help her flee the scene.
Theres a lot of exceptions though, Dori got her vision when she resolved to be rich not when she was already rich, Ayato got his when we was still a kid but only after talking to his father about taking over and not after he revived his clan, ningguang got hers as she was coming up with a business venture but by that point she had already been quite successful as a businesswoman. Yelan also received a vision when she decided not to rely on others for her line of work when her team all died. Yoimiya randomly got hers while making some fireworks and chucked it aside for some time. Yaoyao also got hers pretty early before really accomplishing anything
That said theres also those who got them after achieving something like rosaria who gained one after obtaining her freedom, cyno who got his right before becoming the general mahamatra and the numerous you mentioned.
I like to think that with celestia being comprised of probably more than one god each one of them has a different reason to grant them to different people which is why each vision story seems inconsistent with the next. I also have this headcanon that the gods see beyond the current occurance and maybe grant them based on who they could become but not always
Not just Beidou that have super human power withou vision Capitano rumor to be the stronggest human in tevyat and Varka has meet capitano and confident he able to fight and wins again Capitano also make him one of stronggest human
Yes, you're right capitano is considered to be crazily strong for a human and honestly someone I for sure pulling for. That said thought these types of humans are pretty rare only with beidou and capitano or maybe im forgetting other characters who are crazy powerful
If I recall correctly, i seem to remember varka saying he was no way even on the same level with capitano, which just tells you how crazy strong capitano is. I also recall reading somewhere that capitano is just outright the strongest human.
That said Varka is also said to be crazy strong and i've heard rumours he dual wields claymores 😂 which is just nuts and I hope that gets implemented lol. Unfortunately I havent played Honkai so I cant really say what hed end up looking like but his vision being cryo would fit in with the theme of knight of boreas
@@Maevix3142 he may be 2wielding claymore but im sure only one claymore that will be in gacha banner
@@alihmaulaakmal Wouldnt that be funny like summoning his character gets you 1 claymore and to get the second one you have to summon in the weapon banner 😂
Wow Girlboss
A crazy strong one too