Frank Lampard's FAILED as a Manager and CANNOT Get the Rangers Job, Claims Simon Jordan! ❌😤
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- What is next for Frank Lampard? talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan have their say!
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Frank Lampard is the figment of a football manager....what a line 😂😂😂
Failed? He did a great job keeping Chelsea up.
No he didn’t, he got lucky other teams had down seasons
@@kevinboltz6244sarcasm a foreign concept to you?
Simon is right. Jim is arguing for journalism sake 😂
LOL.
That's his job? He is a journalist 🤷
Elite ex players need to spend time in the footballing backwaters like Ange to learn their trade as coaches/managers. Too many of them want to run before they can walk.
So ange wins a few games at this level. Yes this level. First time he is at this level.
You have him as the benchmark. ? Own goal and disallowed goal is down to ange?
@@johnkeohane4239Ange has played united arsenal and Liverpool and haven't lost any of them say what you want but that is impressive
@@AlphaAbyss_He's done well but on another day each of those games could have easily been a loss. Var and fortune went spurs's way in each
Elite whyte ones, a blk player never gets a look in
Ange had a 25 year coaching career before he ever coached in Britain.
Howard Webb could sign up Frank as a VAR official. He's used to employing useless clowns...and he's now 2 down.
Monday night football = the job centre plus for out of work managers
Truth. Lampard is not a manager time for him to go enjoy life and family. He has nothing to add to football
He took Derby from 6th to 6th, Chelsea 4th to 4th and Everton 17th to 17th! Show some respect…
So that tells you he can’t progress a club, also his interim spell at Chelsea was embarrassing
Everton 16th to 16th
That's just not even true, and is completely devoid of context. His first spell as Chelsea manager was great and he never should have been sacked.
@@stupendous7848 He is part of good players, that seem to have entitlement to have elite managerial jobs, Steven Gerrard another example, go and learn your trade like most great managers do
@@terryolekszy9486how many are any good
Simon is 99% right on most things and N WARNOCK would shake up Rangers from the very top to the bottom
Jim White is surely having a laugh here
He's playing devil's advocate against the person he's talking to because he's a good journalist/radio host
He’s good at that
that's show business
Lampard is a very lucky chap getting all them big jobs in management.
Simon Jordan gets far too much credit for calling other people failures.
Lampard was a great player but hasn't done anything as a manager
I absolutely LOVED Frank as a player but Simon is completely right when he says,
"Being a fantastic player doesn't automatically mean you are going to make a fantastic manager."
Same thing with Steven Gerrard because again one of the GREATEST midfielders of his generation but this far he's failed to do ANYTHING as a manager bar wining a single Scottish Premiership title with Ranger's. And may u also add that as soon as something better came along (in Aston Villa) he SOON jumped ship which kind of tells you the type of person he is!!
‘failed to do anything’ then adds he won a scottish premiership 🥴🤣
@@dombrown-tz3zuHarvey Price could lead Rangers to another Scottish title so point still stands lol
@@samroberts6697 um not really, Rangers are obviously a dominant team up there but you seem to have forgotten Celtic exist.
If contradiction was personified.....
@@dombrown-tz3zu but my Nan could win the title with Ranger's it's 50/50 really because it's either gonna be them or Celtic that are Champions come the end of the season.
Love Lampard the player but hasn’t shown much as a manager. Can’t believe Jim is trying defend his record. Simon got it spot on
He's nearly destroyed every club he's managed and people try say he's competent as a manager
Lampard even struggled to interview Gallagher last night. He does not seem like a great communicator very reliant on cliches.
@@nigefali thought he seemed to have a shyness about him? which isnt good if you are talking to groups but he done ok in his first Chelsea spell so its not true hes destroyed them all. No transfers and he got in the Top 4.
Untrue. Overall he has not succeeded but he did reasonably well at Derby and first season at Chelsea. Last season was a disaster for him but neither Everton or Chelsea have pulled up trees since.
He did very well at a Derby, nearly got the sheep shaggers up! 😂
@freddiefreeman4119 Ask Derby fans if he did well for them. People think Derby were some relegation team before he got there but they were fighting for promotion already. They were a relegation team after he left though because of the total mess he turned the squad into.
Lampard did an ok job keeping Everton up but his 2nd season there was so disastrous that he should never get a half decent job again
Rubbish.they survived by the skin of there teath.there supporters kept them up.
@t147han Supporters don't matter that much, managing is the most important aspect.
Death Grips and Simon Jordan, respect 👊
Says a keyboard expert
Agreed about getting a decent job, hence why he’s being offered the rangers one
A loved frank as a player but a don’t want him as manger. A think it will be Muscat. Jansen. Knutsen. Tht take over at ibrox.
EVERY manager HAS FAILED and fired….. YOU failed as an owner ….. so much nonsense talk …
Rangers need a experienced football manager. not Lampard
The Lampard slander is disgraceful. He is probably the most intentionally misunderstood manager. If there's one manager people want to see fail, it is an English ex-player. Wonder why that is...
@@masterkano3184how do you know his expectations ? 😂 some comments on this are honestly made up nonsense.
@@masterkano3184 He gets a position at the top, he does not expect it.
@@masterkano3184 Rangers is championship level so it would be a reasonable fit.
@@thanos7753championship clubs don’t play in Europe or play for trophies so it’s not the same and that’s a Celtic fan saying this. PL is overrated big time
@@Jamie-bg3zb Championship clubs don't play in Europe, yes. However Championship level clubs certainly do play in Europe. Celtic is certainly around that level, I could imagine them in relegation battles and get promoted and demoted every now and again.
rangers have failed as a football club more than frank lampard has failed. frank just needs to be humble for 10 years or so and stop getting excited with better offers
Failed is a strong word, hasnt had a great career as a manager but i dont think his current CV should prevent him from further opportunities. He's also had some terrible jobs given the clubs hes managed and circumstances the clubs were in.
How can Jim put Lampard in the same breath of manager as Rodgers.. Give me a break.
Rodgers:
LMA Manager of the Year 13/14
Swansea promotion to Premier League
FA Cup 20/21
FA Community Shield 21
Plus 7 titles in Scotland and various Individual honours for them titles.
Points Per Match: 1.77
Lampard:
Premier League Manager of the Month Oct 19
Points Per Match: 1.44
Let’s not forget Rodgers earned his stripes at Watford, Swansea, Reading prior to Liverpool, Celtic and Leicester. Imagine his potential CV if he got the rub of the green to go direct to the clubs Frank has managed.
Lampard failed, G. Nevillle failed...great English footballers don't know much about the real game so they can't manage a team to success😉
Simon is right about Frank. Frank is NOT A WINNING manager. He was meant to make Everton better. Exactly!!!
Anyone club hires Frank Lampard as coach deserves to go down. How on earth do owners not see what he had done with Chelsea and Everton.
Correct. Moved sideways at Derby, inherited riches that he blew at Chelsea, almost got Everton relegated, and then Chelsea 2 was a horror. But the pundits & his ex-pro mates called him as a "great young coach" after 3 games at Derby and that label stuck, and protected him for years. His appointment by Everton is as bad a managerial appointment as I've seen in the PL era.
Everton American owners have no clue what they're doing. Lampard was terrible, Dyche might save them from relegation. Chelsea's going to suffer for a while coz of American owners buying young players for future profit, but disrupts first team squad. Pochettino is great,might get them them to fifth or sixth.
Not a good idea, they need someone with proven success, I'm not sure who that is. Maybe Warnock could do it for the remainder of the season ?
Simon Jordan failed as a club owner. Without context you can say anything. Frank hasn’t delivered as a manager, but he’s also taken up some of the most difficult jobs so early on.
Agent Lamps did well for Darren Farley!
What's up with these managers like Lampard who think that because they had a fantastic career they automatically can be great managers? It doesn't work like that, take small jobs, go manage the B team or the kids from academy and work your way up, it's in the academy where you have more chances to actually develop a playing style and put it into practice, Pep did it, Mourinho was an assistant for many years before taking up the big job, many have done it and i think it's the only way to get better as a manager.
Jim Frank's a winner. Jim should be a comedian,made me laugh
True not everyone can be a success, managers coaches, football club owners 😂
Simon thinks Newcastle drop from top4 and utd stay 😉
Yep... That baffled me
Jim looking up the meaning of the word 'prolific' after asking the question to Simon :D :D :D
Lampard is a recipe for disaster in management a little like sourness and gerrard great players but lackluster managers,already had gerrard getting lampard in would just be the same thing and being honest would he have the minerals to win them a league and compete better in Europe again not many would trust lampard on past accounts.
Lampard has a lot more to offer as a pundit.
I think they should consider Michael Carrick.
To be fair he has a lot to accomplish at middlesbrough first.
This has graham potter written all over
Simon failed as an owner. People in glass houses and all that.
Lampard should have stayed at derby and got them up… rangers hasn’t got time for a rebuild, they need a manager that can help them win the league this season.
Imagine failing at Derby when you managed to get top PL youngsters to help you, and then being arrogant enough to accept the CHELSEA job. Useless manager.
He reached the play off final with Derby and lost to a Villa team with far greater resources. That's not failing.
@maxfrasier so is that a win then?
Overall I thought he did a reasonable job at Derby, he was a disaster last season and would be lucky to get a Champ job now and wouldn't deserve it. @@richarda3514
Warburton at the time was well rated, Gio isn't getting enough credit either won a title on the 3rd biggest budget in Holland and took gers to a European final I'd love to see Lampard 😂😂
When Simon is right, he is right. I get Jim has to make an argument for arguments sake but Simon has him on toast in this.
Jim is a massive rangers fan. I love to see his face when he talks about them now compared to when they were winning all the time 💚🍀
He has ruined each club he has been to. Why do people get given a huge pay off for being terrible and then given more opportunities? 🤯
Simons spot on as usual!
Simon forgets to mention that Lampard got Chelsea into a CL place when under a transfer embargo, when all pundits wrote Chelsea off and stated the opposite. The situations at Everton & caretaker at Chelsea were under difficult situations which both clubs still find themselves under, even with what Simon calls better managers.
Frank Lampard nearly got Derby County promoted, finished 4th with a Chelsea youth team and got to an FA Cup final, and managed to avoid relegation with a terrible Everton squad. That's a better CV than a lot of managers Simon Jordan would call "ok" or "decent", so he's being very unfair towards Frank.
Chelsea won't get a top 4 finish bravo they beat poor Fulham side last night.
Simon, you failed at Crystal Palace and became a pundit! Calm Down, Frank did better than you🙃. He finished in the top 4 in the 19/20 season and was 9th place (5 points off of 4th position) midyear when he was fired. You took Palace into bankruptcy and sat in a studio. The difference.
Regardless of wether it was or wasn't Lampards fault during his 2 stints managing Chelsea, his name as manager is tarnished now and he won't be taken seriously by many players. He needs to rebuild himself somewhere smaller
Listen, he may not be totally to blame, but there's a fair whack of blame rightly on his head. End of.
Look at his record as Everton manager in the 2nd season, its horrific
these superstar players fail upwards generally
Qualifying for a Pro license does not necessarily make you a Manager! I think a lot of the problems with many former great players failing as Managers (like FL) is that they haven't served a lengthy enough apprenticeship under a quality manager(s) with a winning mentality, or they don't have the natural personal attributes to be a winning manager. It was early in FL managerial career at Chelsea you could see he wasn't going to be a winning Manager, and stupid Everton did not do their due diligence before employing him! I think a lot of these EPL clubs are reactive rather than proactive in identifying Managers with a winning mentality - sometimes you have to do the hard yards to uncover the diamonds in the rough.
Newcastle are a better team then Chelsea
One of the main advantages you’ll get hiring Lampard is better chances to loan in players from Chelsea like he did with derby, and a lot of attention from English pundits.
Even if he ain’t great as a manager you had players like Borja and mount available for loan, rangers may be able to get a serious player on loan to boost their squad.
mount?
You wouldn’t fight a firefighter to save lives when he’s no good at fighting fires but does know where the water’s at.
What an awful reason to appoint someone
@@Flipmode1900corruption/nepotism? Think Frank's got that on his business card...
Give the lad a go, still one of the biggest jobs in UK football - better than an other Foreign manager taking it away from a young British manager
Lampard- no thanks.
Rangers should go for nulen lopituge who managed wolves he still in england hes a class manager manged clubs bigger than rangers dont know weather he wud see it as big step down but if money right why not
If I had a pound every time Jordan says “football club” I could take the next year off work
Dont even like frank but who is simon to mock anyone to do with football, the game chewed him and and spat him out and he is forever bitter for it
He's taking the wrong jobs. He thinks he's a top manager and he's proven he's not at the moment but who knows in the future. If he still wants to succeed as a manager he'll have to go down a league or two and learn
Jim arguing for the sake of arguing as always! 😂😂😂😂
Football clubs need to look at managers that are not big names.
There are quite a few good young managers who just need an opportunity and they can become the next big name.
Ole went a season unbeaten away from home. Gerrard and Lampard won't ever ever ever do that.
Apparently Graham potter wasn't interested in the job
There were barely any clubs below them they were all above them. What a skewed statistic to use, 2021 for last win above them is crazy
I don't often agree with Simon Jordan, but on this occasion I think he's said it perfectly.
Lampard isn't really wanted by the True Rangers supporters.
How successful was S. Jordan as manager? What happened with try once, fail, try again, fail and try and fail even further?
Simon - Spot on
Sounness is past it!
The ex elite player myth is finally over, everyone wanted another Zidane.
That's not happening
I don't get the hate....Xavi was struggling when he took over at Barca and Ten hag who is a league winner is struggling at United
I personally wouldn't hammer frank yet. At Derby - he didn't get them promoted but was close and look at the issues behind the scenes. You could argue he did a good job but maybe the benefit of the doubt. Chelsea - transfer embargo and I thought he did a very good job. Put it this way, 6 months after he left they won the champions league. Yes Tuchel is a better coach but I don't think that makes Frank a terrible one. Then at Everton. Benitez (a champo winning manager) struggled and frank basically achieved the same. Both his last 2 jobs have been very challenging and did in my opinion decent, not great but decent in them. Does that mean Rangers? It's a club that could only attract Michael Beale last time so in the grand scheme it's an average team and he's an ok manager. But I think Simon's probably being too harsh for me. For Rangers he's fine. For top clubs (no disrespect but I'm talking champo level), not for me.
I have a question. So, why has Ange Postecoglu been able to take a young team, with many new faces while instilling a completely different brand of football than the previous manager, had so much success, but Chelsea, under Poch, with a similarly young team, with (more) new faces playing a new style of football vs last year, have comparatively struggled?
Ironically, the answer might lie with Ange. He has said repeatedly that there will be some bad moments. He has said that fundamental change takes time to permeate into a new squad. At Celtic, he lost 3 of his first 6 games.
Don’t get me wrong, what is going on at Spurs is a fantastic story. But maybe, just maybe, Spurs are over performing and over time, they will revert back to the mean of expectations. And Chelsea are under performing and over time, they too will revert to the mean of expectations.
the way everton and chelsea are going without him, maybe they were the ones who sank frank?
Lampard to Sevco will keep the banter years rolling on and on and on 😂
Who?
@@johnreeveswilliamson7228 exactly
Souness would be a terrible idea. He single handedly destroyed Liverpool years ago.
I don't think Man City legend Frank Lampard HAS IT.
What's "IT"? Dunno...
But Everton stayed up despite him. Take Gary O'Neil as an example, Bournemouth stayed up BECAUSE of him.
let’s hope he doesn’t get approached
I swear if I ever bump into simon jordan I'll drop kick and record it
I am just a lowly Norwich supporter but I would not want Frank anywhere near our club, as great as he was as a player
Give Ashley Cole a chance. Won't be considered because he's ......
HAD ENOUGH of jobs for the boys.
I don't know why being a Manager has been so unsuccessful for Frank Lampard - but whatever the reason it has been bad...
I think they should consider Darren Farley
How did he fail? He did ok with Derby. He kept Everton in the Prem. He did as well as could be expected with a rotten Chelsea team.
Frank Lampard is not a football manager. He's been given jobs because of his reputation as a player.
Nobody mentions the vastly more qualified Scott Parker in these conversation ONLY because he was a less glamorous player and played at less glamorous football clubs.
Good lord I hope not. This isn't a step forward in my opinion. It would be another easy appointment a free pass so we don't have to buy someone's contract out. I'm not excited about any of the names being thrown about
Lampard would be a disaster at Glasgow Rangers. A great player but he needs to learn his trade as a manager. He should be in league 1 or 2 to start off with. He’s not a top manager.
Why does he keep getting top jobs when his record is poor?
credentials
One of the most out-of-his-depth managers in the PL I've ever seen, going just on his rep as a player rather than his perfomances and results as a manager. Absolute fraud.
Lampard's timing was poor.
Also you need some luck.
So unfortunate Lampard failed with a big club early in his managerial career.
Foorball is cruel.
Simon is spot on
Be a great Hun manager 😂😂😂😂😂
"absurd to put pressure on Pochetino".. and yet you pile into ETH who at least won a trophy in England unlike poch...and Chelsea are even lower than Manchester United having spent way more. Try and keep some perspective boys...
If Michael Beale can be called a manager for doing his apprenticeship on fifa18 then surely Frank Lampard can aswell.
Can you imagine the Rangers support ! Lamp's would get plenty of the Farley treatment 😂😂
Is big Ange available ? 😂😂😂😂😂
Preach... Lampard is the Meghan Markle of football managers.
DISAGREE - He overachieved at Derby.... he went into Chelsea with a transfer ban and overachieved there (had to rely on academy players and got us into top four - we all know how hard it is to get into top four let alone do it with academy players and a transfer ban). He went to a very poor Everton side where no manager has been able to get them winning - Anchelotti tried, Rafa tried and now Sean Dyche is trying. We can say that no manager at Everton has been able to succeed over these recent years (a lot of that comes down to recruitment). He then goes into a Chelsea team that was struggling under Thomas Tuchel(one of the best managers in the world) and Graham Potter(another top manager, that even Pep came out and said he is the best English manager). By the time Frank went into the Chelsea job our season was done. The players were waiting for the season to be over. No manager would have wanted to take that Chelsea interim job as it was a sinking ship all season. But Frank wanted to help and do his best at his club - he didn't have to do it, but he tried(every manager in the world would struggle, like Frank did, like Graham did, like Tuchel did.
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