Have you set dexed to vintage mode ? imho it's the best dx7 emu for the price ( free) , arturia is a bit better but it's too bulky and cpu intensive The artefact that appear at 12:24 in the fm8 is clearly because feedback is set too high , are the velocity values set to dx compatibility mode ( 100 max velo ) ? Just asking because a lot of these comparison videos are done by people who are setting up the emualtions incorrectly ( cough wooody piano shack ..couggh )
Oh man, you are such a hero! Have you had any chance to check out SY77/99, Montage, PreenFM2, digitone or reface DX hardware? Is Robert Henke on your list of legendary people to meet? How is it possible Yamaha has not hired you yet!
Thanks for your positive comment. Really great to see people appreciating my effort in learning FM synthesis. Funny enough, I actually contacted Yamaha several times, but no reply.
Nice comparison! Valuable, to see the emulations tested directly against each other and hardware rather than against someone's memory of having a DX7 30 years ago. Do you have any thoughts on the PX7 from Reason Studios?
Would love to hear how these patches sound on image line's sytrus. That's my main FM synth at the moment but these videos are increasingly convincing me to get some hardware.
Thanks for your suggestion. If I were to get an 4 operator FM synth, then it would be TX81z, as it's a module and I"m familiar with FM4 on iPad, so I can use my learning from FM4.
Say i load a fm8 patch and to me i feel: "hey this sound lacks harmonics!" So i eq it to taste in the DAW. I wouln't care to the closeness of the timbre to the original on dx7 "mk1".
It's a nice try. But it seems that most of the times differences in sound come not from "better" or "worse" synthesis itself but differently set parameters and specifics of each instrument. For instance, you can't expect Volca FM to sound anything like the others if you don't upgrade its firmware to enable key velocity.
Would be interesting to compare the Yamaha Reface DX in the same way...I'm assuming that it wasn't yet released when you did this comparison. It is only 4 operators, but does 'claim' most of the original DX patches.
Thank you for your work on this! It's proof imo that the argument that "any software can emulate the DX7 because the DX7 is a digital synth" is too generalized and insufficient of an argument. Which is why I have not invested in Arturia or FM8 because of videos like this where the distinction is embarrassing! And Dexed is just unusable as an aspiring keyboardist who values accurate emulation and expression. What are your thoughts on Plogue's Chipsynth OPS7?! I was watching their videos and it appeared from my impression that the developers took a very tedious approach in emulating the DX7. That's where i'm shifting my focus to as of late. I'd love to hear your thoughts
Can't be compared. Completely different specs. The content provider here would have to pull out a DX21 or DX100 to provide you a more accurate comparison
Buying a used DX7 costs about 500 USD, saves CPU and delivers you joy wile playing/using it. Nice to see how ridiculous all the attempts are even in the pure DIGITAL domain! Interesting to see Arturia performing best here. On analog hardware simulations, they always fail big times.
By the way, the Yamaha's Reface DX (about 300 USD only) thrilled me lately. Yes, it's a toy in some way, it even has built in loudspeakers. But hey, my kids love the speakers, and so do I. Overall, it outperforms FM8, Arturia DX7, even Dexed, though it has only 4 operators. Because it is more direct, more original (most you can get today, probably), and more FUN. Add to that a zero-noise output (which my DX7 has definitely not by any means) - and you get your no-brainer that you can use for the cost of a few new T-Shirts. Woaw. -> Damn, looks like advertising! No, I'm not affiliated with Yamaha, I just like this machine a very lot.
tx81z are dirt cheap and awesome. I have the TX7 too - software is not comparable to either. There is magic in those old boxes going through wires and a pre.
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Thanks for this excellent summary, Power DX7! 🎹
I have to really re-think my strategy with videos!!
All those software DX7 tries were based on DX7, not on DX7 MK1.
Have you set dexed to vintage mode ?
imho it's the best dx7 emu for the price ( free) , arturia is a bit better but it's too bulky and cpu intensive
The artefact that appear at 12:24 in the fm8 is clearly because feedback is set too high , are the velocity values set to dx compatibility mode ( 100 max velo ) ?
Just asking because a lot of these comparison videos are done by people who are setting up the emualtions incorrectly ( cough wooody piano shack ..couggh )
Oh man, you are such a hero! Have you had any chance to check out SY77/99, Montage, PreenFM2, digitone or reface DX hardware? Is Robert Henke on your list of legendary people to meet? How is it possible Yamaha has not hired you yet!
Thanks for your positive comment. Really great to see people appreciating my effort in learning FM synthesis. Funny enough, I actually contacted Yamaha several times, but no reply.
Nice comparison! Valuable, to see the emulations tested directly against each other and hardware rather than against someone's memory of having a DX7 30 years ago. Do you have any thoughts on the PX7 from Reason Studios?
hello, can you send us , teh DX7 VST'x demo patch collection v1.06 jan 2017.syx? thank you !!!
Would love to hear how these patches sound on image line's sytrus. That's my main FM synth at the moment but these videos are increasingly convincing me to get some hardware.
Did you get hardware?
Hello) Can you make a comparison with Plogue OPS7?
Can someone tell me how the e piano on the kq dixie app is?
Y'know, I would really like to hear any of your 4OP instruments!
If there's anybody who could give the Kukeiha Club a run for their money, it's you!
Thanks for your suggestion. If I were to get an 4 operator FM synth, then it would be TX81z, as it's a module and I"m familiar with FM4 on iPad, so I can use my learning from FM4.
Say i load a fm8 patch and to me i feel: "hey this sound lacks harmonics!" So i eq it to taste in the DAW. I wouln't care to the closeness of the timbre to the original on dx7 "mk1".
What's the true capability of DX 7 hardware when DX 7 V has more features?
Clout
It's a nice try. But it seems that most of the times differences in sound come not from "better" or "worse" synthesis itself but differently set parameters and specifics of each instrument. For instance, you can't expect Volca FM to sound anything like the others if you don't upgrade its firmware to enable key velocity.
For my ears, the Arturia DX7 was very good, if you can reduce the artefacts of some sounds that was shown here, it would be even better ;)
i know Im quite randomly asking but does anybody know a good website to stream new series online?
@King Rowan Try Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@King Rowan Lately I have been using Flixzone. Just google for it =)
@King Rowan i would suggest Flixzone. You can find it on google :)
@King Rowan try flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
興味深い比較でした。低音のサウンドの質感はサンプリング周波数設定によって変わるのかもしれませんね。
It's interesting comparison. I guess bass texture is varies in each sampling frequency.
Would be interesting to compare the Yamaha Reface DX in the same way...I'm assuming that it wasn't yet released when you did this comparison. It is only 4 operators, but does 'claim' most of the original DX patches.
the ALASKA Pad preset EXPOSED all the imposters in BROAD DAYLIGHT 🤣🤣🤣🤣 !! FM8 got it ALLLL wrong !!
Thank you for your work on this! It's proof imo that the argument that "any software can emulate the DX7 because the DX7 is a digital synth" is too generalized and insufficient of an argument. Which is why I have not invested in Arturia or FM8 because of videos like this where the distinction is embarrassing! And Dexed is just unusable as an aspiring keyboardist who values accurate emulation and expression.
What are your thoughts on Plogue's Chipsynth OPS7?! I was watching their videos and it appeared from my impression that the developers took a very tedious approach in emulating the DX7. That's where i'm shifting my focus to as of late. I'd love to hear your thoughts
what about reface DX?
Can't be compared. Completely different specs. The content provider here would have to pull out a DX21 or DX100 to provide you a more accurate comparison
Buying a used DX7 costs about 500 USD, saves CPU and delivers you joy wile playing/using it. Nice to see how ridiculous all the attempts are even in the pure DIGITAL domain! Interesting to see Arturia performing best here. On analog hardware simulations, they always fail big times.
By the way, the Yamaha's Reface DX (about 300 USD only) thrilled me lately. Yes, it's a toy in some way, it even has built in loudspeakers. But hey, my kids love the speakers, and so do I. Overall, it outperforms FM8, Arturia DX7, even Dexed, though it has only 4 operators. Because it is more direct, more original (most you can get today, probably), and more FUN. Add to that a zero-noise output (which my DX7 has definitely not by any means) - and you get your no-brainer that you can use for the cost of a few new T-Shirts. Woaw.
-> Damn, looks like advertising! No, I'm not affiliated with Yamaha, I just like this machine a very lot.
tx81z are dirt cheap and awesome. I have the TX7 too - software is not comparable to either. There is magic in those old boxes going through wires and a pre.