Stephanie McMahon On Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair
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Stephanie McMahon On Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair + thoughts on The Rock and what made him a superstar.
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When we were kids, were looked up to Hulk Hogan. When we grew up, we wanted to be BE Ric Flair. WHOOO!
I agree
I loved hogan but as i grew i started thinking randy savage was the best of the 2...He was quick he was a better inring workers than flair had hulk's charisma and was able to play both a great heel and a great babyface.Macho could do everyyhing flair did but flair couldnt do everything macho did. But im not a moron hogan is the greatest thing that ever happen to wrestling period. Even though i later became more of a macho fan i know who did more for the business hulk changed the business
Boooomm! He just said that!
Limousine riding, jet flying....
Oh yeah, who didn’t want to be the Nature Boy?? He was having all the fun while Hogan was saying his prayers and taking his vitamins (and steroids).
@@scottmoore1614 Hogan was making money without breaking a sweat!! ...Flair used steroids too he just used them the wrong way he let his muscles go flabby😂. Macho was better than both. Wish mach was inducted into hof while he was alive what a shame
Hogan was the ULTIMATE worldwide box office attraction! Flair was the ULTIMATE total package! The scary part about Flair was he NEVER had a great marketing machine built around him in his prime years. Crockett Promotions had an AWESOME ROSTER back in the day. With guys who could have been HUGE mainstream wise if they had the machine built around them to do just that. Flair is at the top of list!
Even though Flair has become transcendant mainstream wise since he retired, he could have DONE THE SAME in his prime. IF he had the machine Hogan, Savage, and Piper had back in the day. You Tube and the WWE machine had done a lot to help Flair's legacy get the props it deserves. Rappers who WEREN'T BORN during his prime or just babies are HUGE FLAIR FANS! F
Hogan was a great in ring worker yea he later decided to just stay with his 3 sets of moves once he returned to wwf as did stone cold steve austin. Hogan put every company he worked for on map he was past his prime in wcw n he made them a force!!!
I think had hogan flair and savage wrestled in this era i think savage wouldve been the best of the 3 especially the way he was in his prime. Flair is lucky savage ended up getting picked up by vince mcmahon had he been on nwa savage wouldve taken it.
@@JonDoe-fo3kl Great points! The thing about Savage was he was the NEW AGE TOTAL PACKAGE in the 80's! WAYY ahead of his time in terms of combining the aerial ability, technical skills, mic skills, main event IT factor, and the ability to be great as a face or heel. There was NOBODY in the 80's who put it all together in that type of package. The guys like HBK, Jericho, Eddie, Angle, Daniel Bryan, Punk, Rollins, AJ, etc. ALL come from that Savage blueprint in their own way.
Flair was a great total package as well in his prime. BUT Savage added the great aerial ability-athleticism on top of it. U had high flyers back in the day in the 80's like a Steamboat, Kevin Von Erich, Snuka, Bobby Eaton, Koko, etc. And even junior heavyweight type guys like Dynamite Kid, Tiger Mask, etc. But NONE OF THEM were the total package Savage was. Not even close.
So when it comes to Savage vs. Flair, Savage's moveset would TRANSLATE better that Naitch's today's game. Flair would still be awesome, a main eventer, and world champ. A peak Savage and Flair would be today's WWE's top two stars HANDS DOWN! But with today's WWE, Savage's blend of aerial skills, technical skills, and a great motor for relentless brawling would fit in great. And he was so athletic I'm sure he would add new aerial tricks the way HBK did in his comeback.
Man i was waiting for either of them too bring up a macho man question too see Stephanies emotions 😂
Flair on the mic " forget about it " Flair vs Dusty, Sting, Steamboat - ( carried the Garvin's ) - Muta, Road Warriors, Lex Lugar, Barry W ect NWO - War Games - 4 Horsemen , Evolution - 4ourtion
Orange & Red 😂 😆 😂
I grew up in nwa country I always thought Flair was better.
Wooooooo! I saw him in Greensboro, NC several times.
Totally agree with you.
I did too! U couldn't deny Hogan's star power. And Vince had a machine to get the most out of it. And made Hogan and others a mainstream force. BUT the thing is Flair had JUST AS MUCH star power potential as Hogan. But in a different way. He just didn't have the machine behind him to get the most out of it. Because Crockett didn't have a machine in place to get the most out of an edgy, cool ass product that was blood, guts, and great in ring action. U had Flair and the Horsemen, Dusty, Road Warriors, Magnum, Rock N Roll, Nikita. Later u had Sting and Luger.
ALL THESE GUYS if marketed right could have been just as big as Vince's stars. And Flair would have been at the forefront. I had friends who HATED wrestling because of WWF's presentation. BUT they weren't aware of JCP because they didn't have TBS. Once they saw JCP for the first time,they were HOOKED!!
I considered Flair and Savage the EPITOME of a total package back in the day. The top two. Flair for the guys who were more technical and ground based. Savage for the guys who mixed in the aerial assault with that. But once again, Savage got to take advantage of Vince's machine. Flair with a PROPER machine to take advantage of his attributes in his prime would have been ALL OVER the mainstream!
@@bizil100 marketing saved Vince, that's all there is to it.
@@bizil100 Totally agree with everything you said. I grew up in a time when you had the WWF and the NWA. Both were pro wrestling organizations but they were so totally different! Like night and day (and I watched them both). Vince obviously had the money to spend and he milked the Hulk Hogan cash cow for all it was worth (nothing against Hogan). The WWF seemed to be consistently geared toward kids at that time (even I noticed that as a kid myself). You had insane merchandising...shirts, lunch boxes, cartoons! Crockett’s outfit was lamer in some respects (basically because he did NOT have the money) but the wrestling was better, imho. Even as a kid, I much preferred it over the more cartoony WWF. Again, I did watch them both but there was such a difference...JCP was indeed edgier and more “adult”...with the WWF you had more glitz, bigger arenas, more of an almost circus atmosphere, I thought. Broader characters. It really shocked the hell out of me when Flair went over to the WWF back in the early 90s. I was excited but so apprehensive.I really thought he wouldn’t “fit in” (because Flair was just on a whole other level) but they got it to work, somehow.
@@scottmoore1614 Great post! Perfect breakdown of the difference between WWF and NWA. I was a kid in the 80's too. And I indeed watched both products. And enjoyed both. BUT I preferred the NWA as well. Many of us as kids ARE ALREADY more drawn to edgier adult things. Things like looking at Playboy and Penthouse, Rambo, Terminator, Redd-Foxx-Richard Pryor-George Carlin comedy, etc. ALL THESE entities were mainstream EDGY products. JCP was the perfect edgy type of product to go national with back in the day. It was the perfect contrast to the WWF. Just didn't have the money or business savvy to take advantage of it. Thus had to sell to Turner.
In a PERFECT world, Turner would have invested money into JCP for marketing and production. WHILE JCP was able to keep most of their edge. Dusty and Crockett would handle the booking side of things. While Turner handles the marketing, production, and financial side of things. Plus JCP had the roster and edge to bring in fans who NEVER thought about watching wrestling. Because of the cartoonish-circus feel that the WWF had at the time.
Excellent interview. Wish A-Rod was little more informed.
Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time.
Even Hogan says so.
Hogan’s colors weren’t orange and red or yellow and red. Hogan’s colors were black and white. nWo 4 Life
NWO is the only way to go!
Some of you posters GOTTA UNDERSTAND that Hogan was AWA's biggest star BEFORE he came back to the WWF! In the AWA, that's where Hulkamania was created. But while Hogan was in the AWA, Andre, Dusty, and Flair were EASILY bigger stars in more places than Hogan! U could even throw guys like Brody over Hogan at that time too. Hogan was killing it in the AWA though. Just hadn't been as many places with the new Hulkamania swag yet.
ONCE Vince got Hogan, Vince gave Hogan a national and later worldwide stage to dominate. Vince had a machine that TOTALLY CHANGED the game of what a draw could be. And could really enhance guys EVEN MORE who already had MAJOR IT FACTOR! So once that ball got rolling, Hogan DID pass by Flair, Dusty, and Brody. Andre was ALSO under the WWF too. So it took Hulk a bit longer to pass Andre by. BECAUSE Andre was ALREADY the biggest star in the industry BEFORE Hulk got rolling in general.
Flair and Dusty never had machines built around them in THEIR prime years like Hogan had. And when they came to the WWF, millions of fans ONLY WATCHED the WWF at that point. So of course they weren't going to be familiar with them often times.
And PLUS the machine wasn't built for their more gritty, adult oriented style. Hogan was PERFECT for that machine. Flair and Dusty still got over huge eventually up there. BUT the machine wasn't built for them the way it was for Hogan! They weren't allowed to be truly themselves up north.
Rocky created hogan! That put him on the map!
Daamm.... Stephanie lookin thicker than a Snickers right here
Looking bootylicuous! She just gets sexier looking with each passing year of her life.
Ric is the greatest of all time the argument is whose 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th and so on
Billy Cain disagree 👎
I only started caring about wrestling once hulkamania started getting white hot in the AWA!!. Flairs iron man matches were boring as fuck.
exactly
@@JonDoe-fo3kl you little hulkamaniac you don't know s*** about wrestling do you
@@billycain9890 i know its fake and its more important to learn how to draw money than learning movesets!!!....i also know that hogan drew more money than ric flair even ric flair himself admited this. Ric flair went to wwf in late 1991 and he wasnt a huge draw he put on a great mania match but if he didnt drew like hulk trust me vince wouldnt had pushed bret and book bret to go over flair if flair was bringing in the cashflow. Hogan held his 1st world title for 5 yrs straight none of flairs reigns were that long. Flair became more popular later on after he retired thanks to ppl like dave meltzer and other hogan haters using internet to bury hulk.
Flairs daughter is one fine lady
I got $50 AROD wouldn't know either one of them standing in front of them.
Steph ❤🥰
Lmaooo!!! What a joke! Hogan is definitely the most recognized wrestler of all time. Hulk has 3 moves?! I guess she didn’t see Hogan wrestle in Japan. The difference is Hogan only needed to use 3 moves and was super over. If it wasn’t for Hogan WWE probably wouldn’t have even made it. And as far as the rock being the most popular WWE superstar ever... I think Wrestlemania 18 when Rock wrestled Hogan that spoke for itself! Sounds like Stephine is bitter towards Hogan - sorry! 🤷🏻♂️
she didn't seem bitter at all. she seemed complimentary about both him and flair. she is a wwf product she probably didn't watch it but his career in wwe was a small move set and charisma and promos .
She won't call it wrestling. She will only say "our business". She won't call them wresters. Only "superstars"
Because ufc rose to the mainstream. wrestlers are actual professional folk style, free style, catch wrestlers. WWE are in fact superstars. They are athletes, actors, social media influencers.
@@nonyobussiness3440 What are AEW
Steph mentioned give divas a chance. I guess Vince listened because their matches went from 30 seconds to 2 minutes.
People all over the world knows Hulk hogan. .hogan is mohamed alie of wrestling
Flair was the BEST wrestler. Hulk Hogan allowed you, and Flair, and #therock, to not have to work a regular 9-5 job and have to "rassle" on the side
I wonder who took more steroids...Flair, Hogan or A-Rod?
Lol
Flair was better as wrestling, Hogan was better at making people care about him and paying to see him.
Ric Flair....Drop the Mic
Let me pick for you there's about 10 all-time greats like Hulk Hogan stone cold steam Dusty Rhodes The Undertaker Shawn Michaels but there's only one greatest of all time and it's Ric Flair he is the Babe Ruth of wrestling when your peers like Hulk Hogan Triple H Shawn Michaels sting Randy Orton The Undertaker Dusty Rhodes the Road Warriors Stone Cold Steve Austin when they all call you the greatest of all-time then you damn well better believe it
She is so hot
Stephanie McMahon is so cute still now she is the greatest and hottest
THATS why you don't due steriods "The Orange and Red" C'mon MaN
Do
Well, Hogan WAS orange. 😂
What do Alex Rodriguez and Hulk Hogan have in common they both got busted for doing steroids
“Trending worldwide” 🙄🙄🙄
I feel like I grew up with Stephanie. we're all adults now strange
ARod - “cry if either lost”. He obviously never watched wrestling as a kid. Children didn’t pull for Flair. He was a heal.
I caught that too.
Dis nigga just said "tHe OrAnGe AnD rEd" so confidently 😅
Stephanie McMahon the most sexy smart talented woman in wrestling
Minus her laugh. Probably from roids!! Lol jk but its annoying. 😂
Creative has been terrible since she took over
She wants to give A-Rod that 🚬
Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time
Hogan is the greatest sports entertainer of all time
Austin is the greatest wrestler slash sports entertainer of all time.just my opinion.
Rock dosent come close! And were sick of the rock he was funny at one time
Rock was only watchable for a few months in 1998.. by 99 we all had enogh of him..
@@Nostalgicguy2242 then why was he still drawing 7 8 million people in 2000
@@priyadarshidash4353 Exactly he actually was bigger in 2000 then both years
Her hotness is legendary
Still ain't listening.
Hulk hogan is wrestling!!!
Hogan is nothing but a big meathead.
Hulk can beat all of them brother
Hulk Hogan was a Megastar and that's about it. flair was better in so many ways he was a better wrestler gave better promos could sell a match made other wrestlers look better there's no comparison Hogan's fan base was 8 + 12 year old's Ric Flair's fanbase was 22 to50 year olds Hulk Hogan would wear tore up T-shirts and spandex Ric Flair got out of limousines with $10,000 suits Rolex watches in beautiful women even Hulk Hogan has said on numerous occasions he's not half the wrestler and Performing Ric Flair is
Flair didn’t revolutionised the business like hogan did, hogan really made wrestling a worldwide phenomenon period
@@robertwalker3357 he was a big star yes but as a performer and a wrestler he was way at the bottom of the list punch punch punch throw you to the Rope a weak ass boot to the face and a weak ass leg drop that my grandma could do that was his entire repertoire match after match the worst wrestler of all time
The McMahons still can't say wrestlers or wrestling. It's "our business" and "superstars" etc. etc. So sick of that stupid corporate crap. Steriod Steph used to look great, but she decided to bulk up like her Dad. Tiny little head and giant body.
Get the fuck out of here with that hater shit!!!!
@@janski1982 You're funny. I can just see steam coming out of your ears.
The rock is recognized for being a movie star. Hogan is number one recognized wrestler. In my little opinion
simple hulk baby face , rick a heel... and a rod is painful to watch as a host ...
Flair is the " GOAT " and Hogan knows that. Flair was always a fighting " cheating - dirtiest player in the game Champion " Hogan use to wrestle 1 match a month, never really saw him on TV in the 80's - Flair 2 - 3 times a week showing off that belt!
Steph is looking a little manly
You need glasses
Flair may have talked about flying in private jets but even he said in an interview he was on the road riding the the car with the boys while Hulkster was being flown around the world in a private jet bc Hogan was the golden goose. His words not mine. Hogan is the reason why wrestling is a billion dollar industry today. Hulk Hogan & Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson are the biggest alltime. Flair and Stonecold are on the second tier. Everyone and there mothers and grandmothers know who Hulk Hogan is. A lot of people don’t know who Flair is if they never watched wrestling
Hulk Hogan and savage were better than ric flair....flair matches were boring to watch. Tremendous mic skills but when i think of flair i think of bumps and bladed forehead thats it
Nobody was bigger than Hulk Hogan- go back and watch the first matches of Hogan Vs Flair. Hogan OWNED the stadium. The fans was like 90% Hogan 10% Flair. I was born in 1980 and everyone knew who Hulk Hogan was. Flair wasn’t even in the discussion for most popular wrestlers at the time. It was Hulkster then everyone else like Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior, Piper, Undertaker, Bret the Hitman Hart, etc. Hulkster transcended Wrestling. Flair didn’t
100% disagree
J Crash Bro- I was born and raised in North Carolina. I live in Charlotte, NC. This is Flair country. I’ve always known who he was. But Flair was more territorial. Hulk Hogan was nationwide and then global. He was just on another level. He was a Hollywood Celebrity. Flair was just a wrestler. And mostly popular in the south. Hogan was one of the most popular celebrities in the world. Wasn’t even close. Flair is Well known now but it took a LONG time for him to go to that level. Like pretty recently. Hogan was that big if not bigger back in the 80s lol.
Hogan was a big goofy clown.
Andre the Giant died. ARod sucks
Stephanie sounds like she's been brain washed by HHH about Flair
How many moves did flair have? 4? Hogan didn't need more then 3 moves
Flair only had four moves obviously you've never watch wrestling Hogan was a steroid using non-wrestling phony ask any wrestler out there of the 80s 90s and today 9 out of 10 would pick Ric Flair over Hulk Hogan any day of the week don't believe me Stone Cold said it Shawn Michaels said it Kurt Angle set it the Undertaker has said it Chris Jericho I said it just about all the wrestlers say Ric Flair is the goat hell even Hogan on ESPN set it that Ric Flair was ten times the wrestling champion he was case closed
@@billycain9890 it is more recognized Hogan is a house hold name flair isn't
Everybody knows who hogan is. Hes the babe ruth of wrestling. Also was hogan the only guy who did steroids and have you ever watched him in his Japan work? Name me flairs moves lol
@@brandonvandine1695 the figure four. The chop to the chess. the head chop off the top rope. the chicken wing. power driver. sweeping the leg. I can name three or four more but what's the point only thing Hogan had on Flair was popularity in the 80s and 90s and at this point Flair is a bigger Legend than Hulk Hogan the only people that thought Hulk Hogan was so great what's 10 + 12 year old little boys in the 80s early 90s ask about any wrestler any fan over 30 years old today I'll tell you Ric is the goat Hogan wouldn't even make the top 10 is finishing move with a leg drop laughing my ass off my Grandpa could do that
@@brandonvandine1695 I can care less who's more recognizable it's more prestigious to be known as the greatest ever at what you do have you listen to Stone Cold say Ric Flair is the greatest how about the Undertaker Shawn Michaels Triple H Chris Jericho Edge Jerry Lawler hell I could keep going nobody's ever said Hogan was the goat they only say he was popular big deal
@@billycain9890 the figure 4 is gay and did you actually me toon his cheap ass chop ? Lol
Oh Steph... so much surgery...