The problem is not people at 800gs struggling for content, they grind 16hrs a day. The problem is getting to 800 itself with the shitty cron spam enchanting
That isn't entirely it either. There is no reason to even get to 800gs, majority of content is capped, majority of pve content is just recycled, no real meaningful content. But what you stated is also a problem. PA cares more about trying to line their pockets then making the game actually good.
I 100% agree as a player of 8yrs its gotten worse P2W all gear now or wait 10 months of grinding the 16+ hrs a day for 1 click to fail. stops me from wonting to log in.
bunch of losers crying about crons when they already implemented agris essence. imagine the old days when rng was a sinkhole and there's no guaranteed success. ur in the wrong game. im a f2p player and i got to 770+ gs. grind more sir. the game is way too easy now and u still cant cope.
Exactly. They have good points, dont get me wrong, but any time these streamers with 790gs talk about what the game needs I cringe just as much when I see PA updates lmao.
which points do you disagree on from the video that makes you feel this way though? I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't seem that relevant to this specific situation. They are making decent points that are relatable to everyone in the game. And even if you are not in the end game like they are, knowing that there is a future and meaning to your progression for newer players is important to fuel the motivation of the players.
@@nerdiusmaximus7312 the only thing that Document had was : Cater for crons/nw/life skillers/Aos. Gear value had a line. all things that if they did fix wouldnt bring anyone back. cause it wouldnt change anything. This is His idea's , dude was better off printing off the community board. or even just pulling that up to see the real problems. And Divios of all people. the dude that dresses up like a dragon. come on.
I still Believe a collection log would be massive for the game. Ingame loot tracker with different stages of unlocks the more unique drops you get. This includes ginseng, all the new fish down to trashloot from non-elvia orc camp, event items. Give us a fun goal to reach other than just a ”ding” when we tap an item. (stolen from runescape)
Indeed. This isn't the time for secrecy and shyness. The game is dying and people need to hear what PA was saying or thinking. For better of for worse.
@@Gleandra Pretty sure he was simply asked to hold off on certain info until a later date, not that he can't talk about it ever. It is likely something to do with future announcements within the company. It can also be considered an olive branch both ways, PA for having an in-person discussion and streamers not leaking info until PA is ready to talk about it.
They invited in the past. They've listen to others flown in. Did they implement stuff? No. Its just PR due to the worse buisness numbers. It would be naive to think they actually act based on your feedback. I hope I`m wrong - we'll see.
@@rozuns1507 it is not the same devs as guild wars. Guild Wars is made by ArenaNet. They share the same Publisher which is not the same thing. That's like saying Walmart makes every tool in their hardware department.
I know I will get a lot of dislikes. I like Choice I like his passion about this game. But this document I am really sorry but this is not voice of the community. There are many people(top pvp-ers included) who don't like your suggestions. Also I found it hilarious that to fix the game for entire community PA invited two almost most geared players in the game. Striker and Berserker. Like for sure they know how this game looks for majority of people. Surely.
Who would you have suggested to have gone instead of Choice and Divios for NA? I would take them over other Druma partners (FakeUni etc..) Regardless of how PA gets there, Choice did a good thing for bringing up these issues (sliver/crons/rewards/systems). I would rather watch a video like this than see another "BDO DYING."
Point taken, we are increasing the rewards from RBF to 100 mil silver. /s Seriously, inviting few people to talk about stuff is all nice and good but honestly who cares at this point? Make some ACTUAL changes ingame, not just talk about them, otherwise it will be just empty promises as always. IMHO PA has its last chance to retain some players and possible bring some old players back during the ball in December. If they fuck that up, its GG for BDO.
I am actually one of those players who have been off for around a year, wasting time on other mmos but i am on close watch for that ball in december. If it delivers, i will jump on the hype train one last time and if not, well rip bdo
people complain about grinding having no meaning nowadays because before open world pvp was killed, every upgrade felt GOOD, it mattered and you could feel its difference. having more meaningful uncapped content would help
how much time does a new player need to get on par with the top gear player? if the answer is more than 3 months you're not getting new/return players in an action competitive pvp game.
That’s problem this game is not made for this you have 2 choice nolifer or whale to be competitive also there’s capped but no one play PvP why ? Because in every mmorpg only 20-30% play PvP and bdo has no players nowdays
This usually means there is no qualified person for the job that is also trusted enough by PA to have that sort of position, and they did not outside-hire.
I really wanna believe they’re actually prepared to start listening to us but I just can’t trust it till I see it reflected in game. I really miss BDO and wanna play asap but I’m done feeling like my time is just being wasted. I joined the game late so by the time I geared up all the pvp content that inspired me was gone or dead or unavailable (I came from console, we don’t have aos or val rbf) I really hope this wasn’t just a PR stunt or something.
@Avoidthevoidx To Be Completely Honest The List Is Too Big, Too Long For Them All To Be YT Reply. But A Full Refund Is Fair For Thise Who Should Want To Seek It!
Pearl Abyss instantly censoring the meeting so they can't be held accountable for things that have been said or probably promised. Sounds positive! I'm going to make a prediction: Meeting --> "we heard your feedback" --> 1 year later Pearl Abyss --> Yo J, didn't we have a meeting? Nah that was just to get the goodwill of the player base back. HA fuck that. --> Repeat.
Or likely there was stuff he had included which they are wanting to release shortly to help with some issues they had arise but want to introduce it themselves
all in all, bad decision after bad decision of PA led to this sad scenario. removal of the original declare system everyday GBR abuse, some even manages to do 8x GBR each week free pen blackstar hammer of precision too much deboreka rewards (mainly party blitz) has taken away its value agris essence (they let everyone see the finish line and you can definitely pay to win yourself to max enhancements.) girin tear/strike lightstone/elvia cups value destroyed cos of too much rewards and events alike (strike) and of course the new cups for khazarads. do the devs even think before considering the changes they want to implement? KHAZARAD is NOT SUSTAINABLE - technically you only need 1 deboreka to craft 1 khazarad. IT DOESNT BREAK. each player only need 6 deboreka bases. think of that. why would anyone in their right minds touch deborekas again when enhancing khazarad from base to whatever enhancement you wish is SOOOO MUCH CHEAPER. they fucking killed deborekas. jin dawn crystals - remember those PEN yellow accessories we grinded so hard to tap or to buy in central market? now you just fucking melt them. oh yes the name on the accessories doesnt matter anymore. those who tapped their items for themselves to see their names on each and every item? yes PA just want you to melt them all. they mocked the veteran players who put so much time and money into the game to get those gears that they gave away for "free" or started handing to everyone like candies (deborekas) they accelerated gear progression so much and made it easier for newbies, but for what, there's hardly any pvp content specially uncapped. only now they see player numbers decreasing they try to put band aid events to this dying game. i once enjoyed this game. back when it was still hard to play.
Capped PVP prevents the whole p2w argument. I don't think they should change it as perception of the game is already very low. I want removal of loot scrolls, more crystal slots and other qol things also behind loyalty not just pearl shop. And a slight reduction in DP requirements for flame spots making it mildly more realistic for a new player to farm out all flames without interaction with market. I ain't got the dp for my last flame and the boots reflect the price. It's incredibly a terrible system from a new player perspective to get every armor to duo and boots to c10 and not being able to grind the spot.
Action speaks louder than words. Better wait for ACTUAL changes to take place before spending money or going back to this game. They've done this before and talked about changes during the Balls but never actually went through with those changes.
Sorry, I'm 10 minutes in. but it still bugs my mind. How in the hell is the new COO of the NA branch, an only Korean speaking person? How do you understand the whole NA, when you cant even talk there language, or understand them, read the forums by google translate, ow wait they never read those right. Now 2 creators get over there to talk about the game and to give feedback. How about they care about hmmm all that is left from your players, and open the forums, that thing that has a section for what, owyeah, FEEDBACK. My god I love this game, but even with this move PA shows they have no clue what in the hell they are doing. More server location, fixing the desinc, meaningful progression, not blowing up people's progression, pvp having no rewards, it as all been there, FOR AGES.
I am more boggled by the fact that Pearl Abyss is keeping the WHO a secret. Fucking what??? You work at a video game design company, you're not Jason Bourne.
@@Zeroden Possibly due to death threats and constant spam/blaming. They had to take action in KR for people threatening terrorist activities on the next ball, some people just go to far and think they are untouchable over the internet
@@BeavusCSS I'm no stranger to the type of attention being a public figure brings. That still doesn't explain anything. You can look up the CEO and staff of any major corporate entity, and Pearl Abyss is a Hundred of Million+ dollar company.
I reached 770gs after the introduction of Sov Weapons, after failing so badly on attempting OCT I took a break. Because I don't want to grind Tungrad Ruins anymore just so I could enhance my gear even further. There's no point in doing so unless I want to show off my gear to friends/guildies. It doesn't really matter if I get an extra 20 GS, I'll still be doing the same things as if I'm 730gs.
Thanks for providing that feedback, hoping that implement what you said about lifeskills and the sandbox potential of the game, active lifeskilling should be meaningful economy wise compared to grinding, that will allow players to pick and choose what content they want to do to progress, as opposed to grinding in a geometric shape being by the best activity by factors of 5 of more compared to some lifeskills to progress your character/account. The same goes for being able to progress solely through pvp, not just in meaningful silver rewards comparable to active grinding at similar gear levels but also gaining useful/necessary items like crons or currency to trade for crons or failstacks like pit of the undying. Your points about crons and pve progression is probably the most important that they need to hear and adjust their business strategy if they want the game to continue for 10 more years like they discussed at the heidel ball.
The big problem is lack of respect for your time. You have to grind enourmous amount of time and on top of that you have to gamble with crons so you could be grinding months just to make 0 progress. Sorry but that is ridiculous, that was ok during lock down but not now.
Problem with increasing mastery to 2.5k, is that if you are a a newer player without pen manos gear, the prices of everything will most likely get even worse and 99% of the players will be making even less silver.
Lol then they do it like the rest of us.. work their way up. You could argue PA should increase lifeskill silver across the board but having more mastery should always net you more than those with lower mastery. They gave out BS and horses and ppl cried now you want them to give PEN manos?
@@Flosstradamuss do people get hyped these days about single player games? Ever since it was said to be a single player game I failed to see how they make more money off it after purchase apart from expansion stuff etc
I honestly had lost all hope, I was there when the servers launched and I'm still here, but in the last 2 years I have done nothing but aos and I said multiple times, the only thing that would bring me back would be being able to progress through pvp. Before listening to you in this video I had the feeling that was just me and maybe a small part of the community, but seeing my issue being highlighted and seeing how they sort of reached out for your feedback in an attempt at making things better and thus creating the bridge between my needs and their ears means the world (in bdo terms) to me and it gives me back some hope. Thank you.
Ty for the insight Choice, and your time really good way to feed them with the feedback we have been shouting for time. The tower as an example has already been out for years in BDO Mobile and the Sov wepons is a porting they did from BDO Mobile ( purple or chaos wepons ). It does not take decade of work to release more dung. Just as it doesnt take them decade of time to release dehkia spots i hope they actually do something with this info and it doesnt get lost as it has been getting lost the past years.
i was about to throw a keyboard..... Shai does not need to be stronger in a support sense, they need to be weaker in a support sense and stronger in a combat sense.
@@Nate2crush shai is a support class, no matter what we are going to be strong in team modes because we are a support class, taking that away would kill the class. If players are tired of needing "one shai", they can tag one. The same way they told Shai players to just tag a dps when they complained about damage. There is no reason they need to be weaker in a support sense and stronger in a combat sense. You do not want OOK dps shais top fragging in wars. It would go back to the witchard meta all over again where you had witchards chaining PA just because it was the most effective thing to do. People wanna complain about misty haze, it already has a longer cooldown than our E buff... like cmon yall
i really dont like what Divios say about shai and need to be nerf / chg to what DPS class instead of stay what is it now, due shai become dps? they want 1-2-3 kill ppl huh? or simply kill shai class with nerf of her misty haze those. this make i feel his very dumb, she only got a few "playground" among all grinding place. and PA do nerf her as " certain boss won't received any debuff" he dont know that ? this is very stupid. so what his mean is STRIKER can fight all without shai = BEST ? Foolish on this chg and he mindset is dumb .
If shai got nerf due of that stupid mindset ? i will start gathering all shai player to protest PA， WAR is start! ALL SHAI QUIT BDO OR TELL that stupid quit. 800GS? sorry i already 796 Divios is just a "Ordinary player" for me not Star . Shai from release til know keep got nerf and nerf always is nerf. then still want nerf again ? we play DPS still need afford extra for artina sol cause to play shai, that more than enough of the reason shai is supporter, not to make her become DPS. or YA give me that "45% ATKSPD" + "1-2-3 frontguard", more SA, protection,cc skill like his stupid striker! and i kill ppl with 371 AP shai i happy also.
They can't even understand a support class. Even other games has support classes not just 1. Blame PA that there's no competition to the class that can counter it.
Tbh ive got many suggestions such as adding new city in the dessert for red name peeps and new black market system (sell cm stuffs that have shit high stocks with 1/3rd of the price on cm or buy things that usually cannot be bought such as censer and its an auction system and item bought here could be marked illegal and cannot be put to storage) also a new system where u can rob a portion of other player tl or silver when u kill someone in the dessert. Also guild bases can be built there, a system also exists too but i cannot mention it since its too damn long. But why most of my ideas were buffing red players? To revive pvp ofc also red players have bounty system so us will hunt them more proactively
Exactly my thoughts. What is the point of having rewards for pvp if pvp is only viable to a handful of classes? Then the game isn't about rewarding pvp but rewarding those who reroll to metaclasses. As well intentioned as choice and divios may have been, i feel like they completely missed the mark to what the actual cause of a dead pvp scene is, and that is that it is not fun at all to be a forgotten class doing 10x the effort against a meta class. That ends up killing any competitive scene.
@@noblessus I believe it would be better to wait and see what J will do with the classes that are having so much trouble with stamina and protections, he is improving some classes with every recent patch
How about buffing the Donkey Life buff to +30% life exp, +100 life mastery, and 50 LT?! For the amount of effort it takes to grind it out, seems fair, considering how easily buffs are given out all the time, same or much stronger as it is. That would be swell for life skillers AND motivate people to do more content on Papu Crinea island.
Summary of "Black Desert - The Game of Unrealized Potential" Current Issues Declining Player Base: Player population is at its lowest since November 2019, despite the new expansion Land of the Morning Light: Seoul. Recent competitor releases, like Throne and Liberty, are only partially to blame. Core Problems: Lack of meaningful progression in PvP content. Stagnation in PvE gameplay progression. Minimal development in lifeskilling systems. Ineffective communication between North America/Europe players and Korean developers. Proposed Solutions 1. Revitalizing PvP Progression: Introduce competitive rewards for capped and uncapped PvP modes to make them as rewarding as grinding for silver. Enhance popular modes like Arena of Solare (AOS), Node Wars, Siege Wars, and Red Battlefield with better incentives, improved mechanics, and quality-of-life changes. Create a Hardcore PvP Server with progression tied to main servers. Simplify gear systems for fairness and accessibility, such as a "PvP gear bag" for seamless PvP/PvE transitions. 2. Enhancing PvE Gameplay: Add endgame challenges like a 100-floor dungeon and wave-based combat scenarios with increasing difficulty. Improve gear progression with revamped systems for items like alchemy stones and sovereign equipment. Provide replayable, high-difficulty PvE options to sustain engagement for maxed-out players. 3. Lifeskilling Overhaul: Make active lifeskilling (e.g., gathering, hunting, fishing) as rewarding as grinding. Uncap mastery levels and introduce exclusive cosmetic rewards for guru+ lifeskillers. Revamp the node and worker systems to offer sustainable material flow and economic value. Integrate lifeskill profitability more directly with the game's economy, such as trading crates for cron stones. 4. Communication Improvements: Establish a PvP roundtable with community leaders for direct feedback to developers. Implement regional-specific updates to address differing playstyles and needs. Universal Enhancements for Player Satisfaction Introduce universal weaponry or unlimited tagging for character flexibility. Merge skill points and levels across family characters to simplify progression. Improve server stability for large-scale battles and consider cross-server play for NA/EU communities. Add quality-of-life changes, such as better loot systems, grind trackers, and protection against crystal loss. Key Takeaways Balance Rewards: Align PvP, PvE, and lifeskilling with comparable progression systems to enhance player satisfaction. Player-Centric Design: Address pain points like gear disparities, RNG in PvP, and lack of challenging content. Replayability: Focus on systems with infinite scaling and variety to retain player engagement. Transparency: Improve communication channels between players and developers to build trust and satisfaction. Conclusion Implementing these changes can rejuvenate Black Desert Online by addressing its core gameplay and progression issues. With a balanced focus on PvP, PvE, and lifeskilling, alongside better developer-player communication, the game could regain its player base and thrive.
13:40 I feel like this is MMOs 101. Its its kinda why I've just given up hope and moved on. They dont have a complete gameplay loop, and they should know that.
I fell uneasy with the timing of this meeting of you guys, is like they want to know what we want just to make fake promises on the ball that is coming, like they did in the last one when almost nothing what was talked come to the game.
did you not talk about the the three subs see if there will be any chnage for them as they do cost a lot off money and this is the resason i have stop playing and i miss the game all ready been off for 22 days
At the very least we now know that those "Jays" on top have heard about all of this in person, no middle guy loosing the papers on feedback. Now the ball is on their side. GGs regardless to the both of you and thanks for your hard work. o7
I don't agree with the point of completely equivalent payment from lifeskills, because yes you are right the time spend is same. But grinding has more lets say "risks" with ti involved. More contested spots, dying, loosing crystals there are none of these in lifeskill. So the risk should be outweighed by the reward. Not saying that it should be that big of a gap that is now, but it in NO WAY should be completely equal. Thats doesn't make sense
love the video and the dedication ive been burned 50 too many times over basically a decade by PA so the trust from my side is just nonexistent at this point i truly TRULY hope they follow up on their words and from the sounds of it one can hope and bdo might even make a comeback BUT its PA I will not trust any word out of their mouth without them actually doing what they say
I seems like calpheon ball next month is theire last chance for a lot of ppl,everyone is finally tired that they dont listen to us but gladly take our money, they need to revive pvp on this game, i started playing because of the pvp but now theres no point grinding gear since pvp is dead
Imagine having these two fly out there and say the new NW System is better. Holy moly we just had one fight back on the old system being better then all on the new combined. Just because you dont trust ppl to have 2 braincells doesnt mean the new System is better. Last hit tower is bad, 15 min hold and win is bad, having to throw down building while other guilds rush u is shit. All of the new system is just garbage and on EU we had perfectly fine NW scene witht 10-15 alliances setting up alot of great fights (ofc not everything was perfect). Now here come these ppl and tell PA to further advance their shit new system. I just cant. NW change is one of the sole reason why the EU PVP scene basically almost died in a few months.
Another thing they could have different difficulty lvls for dungeons and Raid bosses for ppl at different gear scores with the hardest difficulty providing best rewards.
Thank you so much for your feedback to PA, insanely good takes. However there is absolutely no way they are changing anything about crons, im surprised they even made the karazad accessories the way they did which is converting a lot of the cost from crons to failstacks. Its a nice hopium but i just really can't see them changing it unfortunately.
For me the biggest problem is the linear gear progression with limited room for builds. And you cant even try out the ones available because its too damn expensive and time consuming to swap builds. There is a huge lack in gear diversity and no real purpose for the grind to buy something unique.
BDO NEEDS MORE GROUP PVE CONTENT!!! A lot of players actually like grinding togetherto make the most out of boring ass PVE content. Also, let us turn in fangs and relics to an NPC instead of wasting hours and hours for a reward that took us hours and hours to get.
Personally as a more casual player I prefer competitive pvp be capped and non capped pvp be more for fun. Then imo it becomes more about skill of the player at the class which I think the top for of pvp should be about. There should be nodes for uncapped that give loads of money to give reason to those wanting to pvp and grind gear but competitive modes should be with balance gear.
Assuming they didn't want you to say anything about changes to declaring war. Most people view that change as a huge negative and a big part of the reason there's no large scale guild wars happening in open world anymore
I would prefer softcapped scaling instead of uncapped pvp in a p2w game. So, for instance, anything over 800 gs now only contributes 50% of stats once you hit 800 gs it would scale at 50% in addition to 800 gs stats. This helps players with less grind/currency to play competitively.
This PvP system u have suggested seems very healthy for gear progression system... As all types of players i.e, pvp, pve, life skillers are essentially being forced into pve and mindless grinding for silver and PvP has practically no reward at all. Which is sad to see and hope they implement this idea.
i remember when i wanted to grind hsytria/aakman soo bad because it was different from all the one shot early game grind zones before it. It was the only time i was motivated to get gear for pve purposes. Now you just get more gear to move from one dehkia spot to another
I want to come back to this game. This game was a change of fresh air when I found out through timthetam or whatever his name. I am holding back because Devs ruined it because of the changes. So I'll wait until I see ACTUAL chamges
I'm all for more silver in BDO but to play devils advocate, increasing silver gains and overall reducing cron cost would futher accelerate the need for PA to add more gear items. The fact sovereign weapons came out a few months ago and people are already pushing Nov and Dec is crazy. When Blackstar's first came out were there really people who had pen BS in 1-2 months? I would agree those changes would be good if they introduce Dec manos gear, and Dec armors, and Dec offhand.
@@Drazyhazebro you realize people look 😅😅data mine leaks, rumors like the new gunner class etc. Sure keeping developments to the game employees sure. but this was purposefully made out to be a PR stunt and if they where smart they would have given out some teasers, some info on upcoming changes.... somethings....not get more gear or stand here for an hour as enemy's spawn 😅😅 also blue has a video and by your logic bdo should have many other thing in it from other balls showcasing "new content" that had yet to see the light of the game also quit white knighting bro... your ass sounds like this mf 🤓🤓
@@Drazyhaze it’s from information he posted on the 13 page document. He’s not an employee of the corporation and I’m sure what he had to say is not breaching his partner agreement.
@@Ha0KuaiDeJian it’s not about leaking information I might have to watch it again but I’m sure choice said he had a 90 reaction to the document they reviewed not late breaking information.
idk locking someone out of content with the rng included doesnt feel right. There allways some ppl who get so unlucky they could never play the new content
@@vindeiatrix I am promoting making all aspects of the game as profitable as grinding. That is favorable to people with 9-5s and kids, since it allows you to do the activities you prefer while earning progression in the game with the more limited time you get to play.
I think it's incredible that they called two people who didn't even play Shai to give feedback on the class, thanks to this stupidity the pearl abyss will definitely only weaken the class and leave it forgotten for years as it was in the past. xd
the main idea of a "competitive battle arena" is to measure the skill of its participants in an equal environment for everyone, if not it is IMPOSSIBLE to measure someone's skill when he is shielded by tons of gs. just give adequate rewards for those of us who are good at pvp without needing to have tons of gs on us, create if you want another AOS uncaped, i doubt that a mode like this will survive, it was already demonstrated in the arusha tournament that they organized... so unbalanced that almost nobody wanted to see it.
Yeah they've done one step, but before that they did 1000 step backwards, so doing 1 step in the right direction is miniscule compared to the damage they done. They've lied and damaged their reputation so many times now, that I've basically lost hope. I don't have anymore trust to give these people until I see action and not just words.
I literally don't care what the system is, if I can't use my gear in open world PvP, I will never spend time earning it. This is as a person at 750GS who quit with the guild dec changes a year ago. I am most people who quit. No, I don't want a quarantine server like Arsha. I want a reason to have gear - to protect myself when grinding in an open world with limited resources.
they are going to separate those hardcore pvp to snowflakes players. PA aims to "pick up on your size" to avoid promoting bullying. hopefully hardcore pvp server should give good rewards to hold them up
@Im Choice very good topics you been talking about, I really wanna you talk about a siege system that is similar to Guild Wars 2, if you did not played that game please have a look on video about it, Its like 24/7 siege going around the week and end of weeks the points sum up and who is wining. This can be done as whole server of black desert playing it..I can't tell you how much Guild Wars 2 players dedicate their time for such gameplay, some of them consider it as a stand alone game.... give me your opinion about it please.
My God, you missed your chance to scream at the most incompetent dev team that fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line. They perma ruined the best combat mmo I've ever played haha I have literally 0 faith in their changes they will make. Glad you had a good trip though!
Well said about pvp i am 100% with you there. Only thing is still worth in BDO is aos yet it is the same 20-30 people at max who is doing it in EU. I kind know all the players who is doing pvp by their name or at least recognize them. I rarely see new names. Although after 2 hours in aos even if i had good time i always think that i had no progress in the game other just fun. Im afraid nothing new will happen about it. They only care for what money they make out of bdo for as long it remains alive and the expansion to China shows that. They did not try to bring players back they just expand to new market till it get depleted for them.
I just want that they try to bring classes on same level pve wise. Some specs are still so bad and left behind in pve. We need pve alot to move forward at a high Gearscore. Like myself i play Guardian for long time cause its good and chill at towerspots thats it. I would love to play more classes but some1 are just really bad in pve or have some other issue. And i really would love that i could tag 2 chars so i have 3 chars with gear and that they share the same horse i have out on my main.
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The problem is not people at 800gs struggling for content, they grind 16hrs a day. The problem is getting to 800 itself with the shitty cron spam enchanting
That isn't entirely it either. There is no reason to even get to 800gs, majority of content is capped, majority of pve content is just recycled, no real meaningful content. But what you stated is also a problem. PA cares more about trying to line their pockets then making the game actually good.
@@Mesoz false, I simply will not play this game because crons are such a crutch. This is why im enjoying throne much more so
I 100% agree as a player of 8yrs its gotten worse P2W all gear now or wait 10 months of grinding the 16+ hrs a day for 1 click to fail. stops me from wonting to log in.
Enhacing and failing everytime using crons is like kicking yourself in the dick that's why people quit this game already
bunch of losers crying about crons when they already implemented agris essence. imagine the old days when rng was a sinkhole and there's no guaranteed success. ur in the wrong game. im a f2p player and i got to 770+ gs. grind more sir. the game is way too easy now and u still cant cope.
The problem is the viewpoint of ppl who can play the game for a living does not represent the majority of the players😂
This. I play the game a shit ton. I would never expect people who play less than me to be held to the same standard I hold myself.
Wdym? If people lose interest in the game choice would also get less viewers.
@@Avoidthevoidx choices viewers are more invested in bdo. hes not getting 10k views on his streams you know?
Exactly. They have good points, dont get me wrong, but any time these streamers with 790gs talk about what the game needs I cringe just as much when I see PA updates lmao.
which points do you disagree on from the video that makes you feel this way though? I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't seem that relevant to this specific situation. They are making decent points that are relatable to everyone in the game. And even if you are not in the end game like they are, knowing that there is a future and meaning to your progression for newer players is important to fuel the motivation of the players.
Regardless of what happens, I think it was an amazing opportunity for you and Divios to go and speak on behalf the community.
lets hope that PA doesn't listen to them. 1%er takes.
@@nerdiusmaximus7312 the only thing that Document had was : Cater for crons/nw/life skillers/Aos. Gear value had a line. all things that if they did fix wouldnt bring anyone back. cause it wouldnt change anything. This is His idea's , dude was better off printing off the community board. or even just pulling that up to see the real problems. And Divios of all people. the dude that dresses up like a dragon. come on.
speak for yourself most of the streamers are indecisive.
What PA does now, is more important than what they say.
I still Believe a collection log would be massive for the game. Ingame loot tracker with different stages of unlocks the more unique drops you get. This includes ginseng, all the new fish down to trashloot from non-elvia orc camp, event items. Give us a fun goal to reach other than just a ”ding” when we tap an item. (stolen from runescape)
This ☝
Didn't sign an NDA, still told to cut content out. Wish you would have just posted your real thoughts
Indeed. This isn't the time for secrecy and shyness. The game is dying and people need to hear what PA was saying or thinking. For better of for worse.
@@Gleandra Pretty sure he was simply asked to hold off on certain info until a later date, not that he can't talk about it ever. It is likely something to do with future announcements within the company.
It can also be considered an olive branch both ways, PA for having an in-person discussion and streamers not leaking info until PA is ready to talk about it.
@@Majiger That would be an optimistic outlook. It may be.
They invited in the past. They've listen to others flown in. Did they implement stuff? No. Its just PR due to the worse buisness numbers. It would be naive to think they actually act based on your feedback.
I hope I`m wrong - we'll see.
people just need to move on from BDO, the game has run its course. And theres a new kid in town, TL
@@andrecseta TL sucks. sad when it came from the same devs of guild wars.
@@andrecsetaI did exactly that and went back to BDO. T&L slow and clunky feeling, boring combat, not enough skill expression and movement
@@rozuns1507 it is not the same devs as guild wars. Guild Wars is made by ArenaNet. They share the same Publisher which is not the same thing. That's like saying Walmart makes every tool in their hardware department.
I know I will get a lot of dislikes. I like Choice I like his passion about this game. But this document I am really sorry but this is not voice of the community. There are many people(top pvp-ers included) who don't like your suggestions. Also I found it hilarious that to fix the game for entire community PA invited two almost most geared players in the game. Striker and Berserker. Like for sure they know how this game looks for majority of people. Surely.
facts...
Top pvp er 😂😂😂 bozos
Who would you have suggested to have gone instead of Choice and Divios for NA? I would take them over other Druma partners (FakeUni etc..)
Regardless of how PA gets there, Choice did a good thing for bringing up these issues (sliver/crons/rewards/systems).
I would rather watch a video like this than see another "BDO DYING."
@bertbebertbr9302 💯💯💯
Thank you for making this comment, now I don’t have to.
just keep not spending money on the game until they make changes.
Point taken, we are increasing the rewards from RBF to 100 mil silver. /s
Seriously, inviting few people to talk about stuff is all nice and good but honestly who cares at this point? Make some ACTUAL changes ingame, not just talk about them, otherwise it will be just empty promises as always.
IMHO PA has its last chance to retain some players and possible bring some old players back during the ball in December. If they fuck that up, its GG for BDO.
I am actually one of those players who have been off for around a year, wasting time on other mmos but i am on close watch for that ball in december. If it delivers, i will jump on the hype train one last time and if not, well rip bdo
Alot of lies on winter fiesta incoming, dont trust them a single promise and w8 another year.
Nah it's a PR stunt, they will just keep doing dumb stuff cuz of incompetent dev/management team.
I just came back after a couple year break and Choice my boy you are looking well these days, you look healthy
thank you
ikr my man looking crisp af
You’re definitely right, when i came back i was happy to see it too
people complain about grinding having no meaning nowadays because before open world pvp was killed, every upgrade felt GOOD, it mattered and you could feel its difference. having more meaningful uncapped content would help
how much time does a new player need to get on par with the top gear player? if the answer is more than 3 months you're not getting new/return players in an action competitive pvp game.
they can join im using tuvala gears at t1 nw😂😂😂
That’s problem this game is not made for this you have 2 choice nolifer or whale to be competitive also there’s capped but no one play PvP why ? Because in every mmorpg only 20-30% play PvP and bdo has no players nowdays
I mean u can catch up in a couple months... if u spends 10s of thousands of dollars and play 24/7 😂
@@SamuKhan-e9w ahh so you can only pvp during Nw's for T1's lol
@@Unstable-zt6kr we are talking about a 3 month old new player. probably t1 is good for newbies experience
Thumbnail should read: how Divios and Choice further annihilated BDO by convincing the devs to further overbuff Striker and berserker. /Thread
"The new COO of North America" doesn't... speak English? Okay... interesting qualification.
This usually means there is no qualified person for the job that is also trusted enough by PA to have that sort of position, and they did not outside-hire.
@@Zeroden No that usually means they hired somebody from the korean side to be the head of NA ( Laughable ). Theres plenty who could do the job.
I really wanna believe they’re actually prepared to start listening to us but I just can’t trust it till I see it reflected in game. I really miss BDO and wanna play asap but I’m done feeling like my time is just being wasted. I joined the game late so by the time I geared up all the pvp content that inspired me was gone or dead or unavailable (I came from console, we don’t have aos or val rbf) I really hope this wasn’t just a PR stunt or something.
I Hope You Asked If They Are Going To Offer Console Players A Full Refund!
Full refund for what?
@@Avoidthevoidx ??? The scam that is console bdo
@Avoidthevoidx To Be Completely Honest The List Is Too Big, Too Long For Them All To Be YT Reply. But A Full Refund Is Fair For Thise Who Should Want To Seek It!
@@corvusstorm3050I don’t know much about console, can you tell me what scam you talking about?
Pearl Abyss instantly censoring the meeting so they can't be held accountable for things that have been said or probably promised. Sounds positive! I'm going to make a prediction: Meeting --> "we heard your feedback" --> 1 year later Pearl Abyss --> Yo J, didn't we have a meeting? Nah that was just to get the goodwill of the player base back. HA fuck that. --> Repeat.
aint no one going back until the changes actually hit
Or likely there was stuff he had included which they are wanting to release shortly to help with some issues they had arise but want to introduce it themselves
all in all, bad decision after bad decision of PA led to this sad scenario.
removal of the original declare system
everyday GBR abuse, some even manages to do 8x GBR each week
free pen blackstar
hammer of precision
too much deboreka rewards (mainly party blitz) has taken away its value
agris essence (they let everyone see the finish line and you can definitely pay to win yourself to max enhancements.)
girin tear/strike lightstone/elvia cups value destroyed cos of too much rewards and events alike (strike) and of course the new cups for khazarads. do the devs even think before considering the changes they want to implement?
KHAZARAD is NOT SUSTAINABLE - technically you only need 1 deboreka to craft 1 khazarad. IT DOESNT BREAK. each player only need 6 deboreka bases. think of that. why would anyone in their right minds touch deborekas again when enhancing khazarad from base to whatever enhancement you wish is SOOOO MUCH CHEAPER. they fucking killed deborekas.
jin dawn crystals - remember those PEN yellow accessories we grinded so hard to tap or to buy in central market? now you just fucking melt them. oh yes the name on the accessories doesnt matter anymore. those who tapped their items for themselves to see their names on each and every item? yes PA just want you to melt them all.
they mocked the veteran players who put so much time and money into the game to get those gears that they gave away for "free" or started handing to everyone like candies (deborekas)
they accelerated gear progression so much and made it easier for newbies, but for what, there's hardly any pvp content specially uncapped. only now they see player numbers decreasing they try to put band aid events to this dying game.
i once enjoyed this game. back when it was still hard to play.
Capped PVP prevents the whole p2w argument. I don't think they should change it as perception of the game is already very low. I want removal of loot scrolls, more crystal slots and other qol things also behind loyalty not just pearl shop. And a slight reduction in DP requirements for flame spots making it mildly more realistic for a new player to farm out all flames without interaction with market. I ain't got the dp for my last flame and the boots reflect the price. It's incredibly a terrible system from a new player perspective to get every armor to duo and boots to c10 and not being able to grind the spot.
You can grind Yzrahid with duo armors and C10 boots though...
Idk, path of exile 2 seems pretty good right now.
Ngl my same thoughts! BDO just became an ARPG with the 2024 pvp changes xD
Action speaks louder than words. Better wait for ACTUAL changes to take place before spending money or going back to this game. They've done this before and talked about changes during the Balls but never actually went through with those changes.
Sorry, I'm 10 minutes in. but it still bugs my mind. How in the hell is the new COO of the NA branch, an only Korean speaking person?
How do you understand the whole NA, when you cant even talk there language, or understand them, read the forums by google translate, ow wait they never read those right.
Now 2 creators get over there to talk about the game and to give feedback.
How about they care about hmmm all that is left from your players, and open the forums, that thing that has a section for what, owyeah, FEEDBACK.
My god I love this game, but even with this move PA shows they have no clue what in the hell they are doing.
More server location, fixing the desinc, meaningful progression, not blowing up people's progression, pvp having no rewards, it as all been there, FOR AGES.
Cuz they don't care about the rest of the world, only Asia exists to them
I am more boggled by the fact that Pearl Abyss is keeping the WHO a secret.
Fucking what??? You work at a video game design company, you're not Jason Bourne.
@@Zeroden Possibly due to death threats and constant spam/blaming. They had to take action in KR for people threatening terrorist activities on the next ball, some people just go to far and think they are untouchable over the internet
@@BeavusCSS I'm no stranger to the type of attention being a public figure brings. That still doesn't explain anything. You can look up the CEO and staff of any major corporate entity, and Pearl Abyss is a Hundred of Million+ dollar company.
Didn't this happen before?
So you didnt talk about "more content/events" like throne and liberty does?
What’s wrong with maegu that you needed to bring it up at the meeting?
how can be coo without talking English
I reached 770gs after the introduction of Sov Weapons, after failing so badly on attempting OCT I took a break. Because I don't want to grind Tungrad Ruins anymore just so I could enhance my gear even further. There's no point in doing so unless I want to show off my gear to friends/guildies. It doesn't really matter if I get an extra 20 GS, I'll still be doing the same things as if I'm 730gs.
Thanks for providing that feedback, hoping that implement what you said about lifeskills and the sandbox potential of the game, active lifeskilling should be meaningful economy wise compared to grinding, that will allow players to pick and choose what content they want to do to progress, as opposed to grinding in a geometric shape being by the best activity by factors of 5 of more compared to some lifeskills to progress your character/account. The same goes for being able to progress solely through pvp, not just in meaningful silver rewards comparable to active grinding at similar gear levels but also gaining useful/necessary items like crons or currency to trade for crons or failstacks like pit of the undying.
Your points about crons and pve progression is probably the most important that they need to hear and adjust their business strategy if they want the game to continue for 10 more years like they discussed at the heidel ball.
How do you hire a COO of North America that can’t communicate with his audience??? It baffles me how that is not a requirement.
How weird to see a BDO content creator be constructive and not just doom and gloom. Refreshing!
No company ever responds first to constructive feedback. You have to be loud and incessant and then you give constructive feedback.
The big problem is lack of respect for your time. You have to grind enourmous amount of time and on top of that you have to gamble with crons so you could be grinding months just to make 0 progress. Sorry but that is ridiculous, that was ok during lock down but not now.
Problem with increasing mastery to 2.5k, is that if you are a a newer player without pen manos gear, the prices of everything will most likely get even worse and 99% of the players will be making even less silver.
Lol then they do it like the rest of us.. work their way up. You could argue PA should increase lifeskill silver across the board but having more mastery should always net you more than those with lower mastery. They gave out BS and horses and ppl cried now you want them to give PEN manos?
I want to know what happened. We were making great progress updates and QOL improvements were so good and suddenly it all went to shit
Crimson Desert got delayed, investors got mad, PA’s main focus is Crimson Desert, if that fails then PA will fail due to investors leaving them
@@Flosstradamuss do people get hyped these days about single player games? Ever since it was said to be a single player game I failed to see how they make more money off it after purchase apart from expansion stuff etc
@@BeavusCSS insert Elden Ring, Black Myth Wukong, Dragons Dogma … yes plenty of hype for single player games. I prefer online and MMOs though
Nice PR move for PA, but I'm afraid nothing's gonna change rly
it would be nice but your 99% correct
i can imagine choice words " all the class are truly op the game could be saved only buffing zerker class"
i can tell why my guild left ;
forced guild wars was probably the 1 thing kept us together and made us group up and defend .
Sooo I am hearing they made oyu sign an NDA when entering the meeting essentially
I honestly had lost all hope, I was there when the servers launched and I'm still here, but in the last 2 years I have done nothing but aos and I said multiple times, the only thing that would bring me back would be being able to progress through pvp. Before listening to you in this video I had the feeling that was just me and maybe a small part of the community, but seeing my issue being highlighted and seeing how they sort of reached out for your feedback in an attempt at making things better and thus creating the bridge between my needs and their ears means the world (in bdo terms) to me and it gives me back some hope. Thank you.
Ty for the insight Choice, and your time really good way to feed them with the feedback we have been shouting for time. The tower as an example has already been out for years in BDO Mobile and the Sov wepons is a porting they did from BDO Mobile ( purple or chaos wepons ). It does not take decade of work to release more dung. Just as it doesnt take them decade of time to release dehkia spots i hope they actually do something with this info and it doesnt get lost as it has been getting lost the past years.
Divios "feedback" on Shai almost started a riot...
i was about to throw a keyboard..... Shai does not need to be stronger in a support sense, they need to be weaker in a support sense and stronger in a combat sense.
@@Nate2crush shai is a support class, no matter what we are going to be strong in team modes because we are a support class, taking that away would kill the class. If players are tired of needing "one shai", they can tag one. The same way they told Shai players to just tag a dps when they complained about damage. There is no reason they need to be weaker in a support sense and stronger in a combat sense. You do not want OOK dps shais top fragging in wars. It would go back to the witchard meta all over again where you had witchards chaining PA just because it was the most effective thing to do. People wanna complain about misty haze, it already has a longer cooldown than our E buff... like cmon yall
i really dont like what Divios say about shai and need to be nerf / chg to what DPS class instead of stay what is it now, due shai become dps? they want 1-2-3 kill ppl huh? or simply kill shai class with nerf of her misty haze those. this make i feel his very dumb, she only got a few "playground" among all grinding place. and PA do nerf her as " certain boss won't received any debuff" he dont know that ? this is very stupid. so what his mean is STRIKER can fight all without shai = BEST ? Foolish on this chg and he mindset is dumb .
If shai got nerf due of that stupid mindset ? i will start gathering all shai player to protest PA， WAR is start! ALL SHAI QUIT BDO OR TELL that stupid quit. 800GS? sorry i already 796 Divios is just a "Ordinary player" for me not Star . Shai from release til know keep got nerf and nerf always is nerf. then still want nerf again ? we play DPS still need afford extra for artina sol cause to play shai, that more than enough of the reason shai is supporter, not to make her become DPS. or YA give me that "45% ATKSPD" + "1-2-3 frontguard", more SA, protection,cc skill like his stupid striker! and i kill ppl with 371 AP shai i happy also.
They can't even understand a support class. Even other games has support classes not just 1. Blame PA that there's no competition to the class that can counter it.
Tbh ive got many suggestions such as adding new city in the dessert for red name peeps and new black market system (sell cm stuffs that have shit high stocks with 1/3rd of the price on cm or buy things that usually cannot be bought such as censer and its an auction system and item bought here could be marked illegal and cannot be put to storage) also a new system where u can rob a portion of other player tl or silver when u kill someone in the dessert. Also guild bases can be built there, a system also exists too but i cannot mention it since its too damn long. But why most of my ideas were buffing red players? To revive pvp ofc also red players have bounty system so us will hunt them more proactively
Also muiquun is shit it aint a proper place bro
Did they get feedback for distant 2025 updates are did they use you to make a hastily made presentation for Calpheon Ball?
Big thanks man, its crazy it came down to this but every voice helps.
Was waitting for this for so long. Thanks Choice and Divios.
waste of PA money.. shit 1%er takes
And people still wonder why striker zerker are so OP. Meanwhile someother classes struggle to even SA or stamina. RIP BDO
striker stamina its ok
Exactly my thoughts. What is the point of having rewards for pvp if pvp is only viable to a handful of classes? Then the game isn't about rewarding pvp but rewarding those who reroll to metaclasses. As well intentioned as choice and divios may have been, i feel like they completely missed the mark to what the actual cause of a dead pvp scene is, and that is that it is not fun at all to be a forgotten class doing 10x the effort against a meta class. That ends up killing any competitive scene.
@@noblessus I believe it would be better to wait and see what J will do with the classes that are having so much trouble with stamina and protections, he is improving some classes with every recent patch
Shots every time he says such that.
wtf is wrong with this comment section… thank you for all the time and passion you invested into this Choice. Hoping for the best
How about buffing the Donkey Life buff to +30% life exp, +100 life mastery, and 50 LT?! For the amount of effort it takes to grind it out, seems fair, considering how easily buffs are given out all the time, same or much stronger as it is. That would be swell for life skillers AND motivate people to do more content on Papu Crinea island.
this. 10% is so weak now for the effort it takes
I agree! As someone that is almost done fishing for that shit id love to get some more exp etc than just 10% lol.
@@nerdiusmaximus7312 💪
100 Mastery would be op af. +30% Exp and 3h duration would be my suggestion
Summary of "Black Desert - The Game of Unrealized Potential"
Current Issues
Declining Player Base: Player population is at its lowest since November 2019, despite the new expansion Land of the Morning Light: Seoul. Recent competitor releases, like Throne and Liberty, are only partially to blame.
Core Problems:
Lack of meaningful progression in PvP content.
Stagnation in PvE gameplay progression.
Minimal development in lifeskilling systems.
Ineffective communication between North America/Europe players and Korean developers.
Proposed Solutions
1. Revitalizing PvP Progression:
Introduce competitive rewards for capped and uncapped PvP modes to make them as rewarding as grinding for silver.
Enhance popular modes like Arena of Solare (AOS), Node Wars, Siege Wars, and Red Battlefield with better incentives, improved mechanics, and quality-of-life changes.
Create a Hardcore PvP Server with progression tied to main servers.
Simplify gear systems for fairness and accessibility, such as a "PvP gear bag" for seamless PvP/PvE transitions.
2. Enhancing PvE Gameplay:
Add endgame challenges like a 100-floor dungeon and wave-based combat scenarios with increasing difficulty.
Improve gear progression with revamped systems for items like alchemy stones and sovereign equipment.
Provide replayable, high-difficulty PvE options to sustain engagement for maxed-out players.
3. Lifeskilling Overhaul:
Make active lifeskilling (e.g., gathering, hunting, fishing) as rewarding as grinding.
Uncap mastery levels and introduce exclusive cosmetic rewards for guru+ lifeskillers.
Revamp the node and worker systems to offer sustainable material flow and economic value.
Integrate lifeskill profitability more directly with the game's economy, such as trading crates for cron stones.
4. Communication Improvements:
Establish a PvP roundtable with community leaders for direct feedback to developers.
Implement regional-specific updates to address differing playstyles and needs.
Universal Enhancements for Player Satisfaction
Introduce universal weaponry or unlimited tagging for character flexibility.
Merge skill points and levels across family characters to simplify progression.
Improve server stability for large-scale battles and consider cross-server play for NA/EU communities.
Add quality-of-life changes, such as better loot systems, grind trackers, and protection against crystal loss.
Key Takeaways
Balance Rewards: Align PvP, PvE, and lifeskilling with comparable progression systems to enhance player satisfaction.
Player-Centric Design: Address pain points like gear disparities, RNG in PvP, and lack of challenging content.
Replayability: Focus on systems with infinite scaling and variety to retain player engagement.
Transparency: Improve communication channels between players and developers to build trust and satisfaction.
Conclusion
Implementing these changes can rejuvenate Black Desert Online by addressing its core gameplay and progression issues. With a balanced focus on PvP, PvE, and lifeskilling, alongside better developer-player communication, the game could regain its player base and thrive.
Doubt they will touch Crons much since costumes are a major cash cow.
13:40 I feel like this is MMOs 101. Its its kinda why I've just given up hope and moved on. They dont have a complete gameplay loop, and they should know that.
I like u talked about pvp but pvp lost it competitivness,...
100%
They could do patch every 2 week or monthly instead of weekly to give them time adjust patches for each region.
I fell uneasy with the timing of this meeting of you guys, is like they want to know what we want just to make fake promises on the ball that is coming, like they did in the last one when almost nothing what was talked come to the game.
Saving BDO is the equivalent of giving a horse that's been dead for 4-5yr's mouth to mouth.
😂😂😂 (Life is better without BDO!)
thank you so much for mentioning pvp progression, subscription earned
did you not talk about the the three subs see if there will be any chnage for them as they do cost a lot off money and this is the resason i have stop playing and i miss the game all ready been off for 22 days
Korea has had the combined version in pearl shop for years, and J knows that Korea is the only region that has it.
@@haozzy well they need to sort it for na-eu
At the very least we now know that those "Jays" on top have heard about all of this in person, no middle guy loosing the papers on feedback.
Now the ball is on their side.
GGs regardless to the both of you and thanks for your hard work. o7
I don't agree with the point of completely equivalent payment from lifeskills, because yes you are right the time spend is same. But grinding has more lets say "risks" with ti involved. More contested spots, dying, loosing crystals there are none of these in lifeskill. So the risk should be outweighed by the reward. Not saying that it should be that big of a gap that is now, but it in NO WAY should be completely equal. Thats doesn't make sense
So you dont tell them anything about stupid karma system, and why ppl stoped doing pvp 1v1 which is sad :(
love the video and the dedication
ive been burned 50 too many times over basically a decade by PA so the trust from my side is just nonexistent at this point
i truly TRULY hope they follow up on their words and from the sounds of it one can hope and bdo might even make a comeback
BUT
its PA
I will not trust any word out of their mouth without them actually doing what they say
Wait what’s wrong with succ maegu I thought she was bad in pvp?
... Maegu both specs has been OP for months. Guild league is filled with them, gauntlets and shais for a reason.
I seems like calpheon ball next month is theire last chance for a lot of ppl,everyone is finally tired that they dont listen to us but gladly take our money, they need to revive pvp on this game, i started playing because of the pvp but now theres no point grinding gear since pvp is dead
Imagine having these two fly out there and say the new NW System is better. Holy moly we just had one fight back on the old system being better then all on the new combined. Just because you dont trust ppl to have 2 braincells doesnt mean the new System is better. Last hit tower is bad, 15 min hold and win is bad, having to throw down building while other guilds rush u is shit. All of the new system is just garbage and on EU we had perfectly fine NW scene witht 10-15 alliances setting up alot of great fights (ofc not everything was perfect). Now here come these ppl and tell PA to further advance their shit new system. I just cant. NW change is one of the sole reason why the EU PVP scene basically almost died in a few months.
Another thing they could have different difficulty lvls for dungeons and Raid bosses for ppl at different gear scores with the hardest difficulty providing best rewards.
@Choice getting Control by PA what to say! Manipulation!! Based
Gotta Pay someone to rally people to play.
Thank you so much for your feedback to PA, insanely good takes. However there is absolutely no way they are changing anything about crons, im surprised they even made the karazad accessories the way they did which is converting a lot of the cost from crons to failstacks. Its a nice hopium but i just really can't see them changing it unfortunately.
For me the biggest problem is the linear gear progression with limited room for builds.
And you cant even try out the ones available because its too damn expensive and time consuming to swap builds.
There is a huge lack in gear diversity and no real purpose for the grind to buy something unique.
I am been playing this game for years. Have over 21k hrs. I agree with 100% with what you mentioned. I like to be hopeful.
BDO NEEDS MORE GROUP PVE CONTENT!!! A lot of players actually like grinding togetherto make the most out of boring ass PVE content.
Also, let us turn in fangs and relics to an NPC instead of wasting hours and hours for a reward that took us hours and hours to get.
Personally as a more casual player I prefer competitive pvp be capped and non capped pvp be more for fun. Then imo it becomes more about skill of the player at the class which I think the top for of pvp should be about. There should be nodes for uncapped that give loads of money to give reason to those wanting to pvp and grind gear but competitive modes should be with balance gear.
Pity they wont listen like usual. Thanks though choice you've been the backbone for NA!!
Assuming they didn't want you to say anything about changes to declaring war. Most people view that change as a huge negative and a big part of the reason there's no large scale guild wars happening in open world anymore
Thanks for sharing!
Entirely based Pillar of the Game
I would prefer softcapped scaling instead of uncapped pvp in a p2w game. So, for instance, anything over 800 gs now only contributes 50% of stats once you hit 800 gs it would scale at 50% in addition to 800 gs stats. This helps players with less grind/currency to play competitively.
No GVG ? we COOKED
they discussing on hardcore server maybe they going to cook gvg there
Open world Pvp is dead thx to people like choice. GRindiNg and Nw is all he cares for.
@@Illezra they might revive hardcore pvp server. my expectation might be new character only available but the rest are connected cmp and silver
This PvP system u have suggested seems very healthy for gear progression system... As all types of players i.e, pvp, pve, life skillers are essentially being forced into pve and mindless grinding for silver and PvP has practically no reward at all.
Which is sad to see and hope they implement this idea.
i remember when i wanted to grind hsytria/aakman soo bad because it was different from all the one shot early game grind zones before it. It was the only time i was motivated to get gear for pve purposes. Now you just get more gear to move from one dehkia spot to another
damn i watched this guy, in 2020 bro still playing
I want to come back to this game. This game was a change of fresh air when I found out through timthetam or whatever his name. I am holding back because Devs ruined it because of the changes. So I'll wait until I see ACTUAL chamges
I'm all for more silver in BDO but to play devils advocate, increasing silver gains and overall reducing cron cost would futher accelerate the need for PA to add more gear items. The fact sovereign weapons came out a few months ago and people are already pushing Nov and Dec is crazy. When Blackstar's first came out were there really people who had pen BS in 1-2 months? I would agree those changes would be good if they introduce Dec manos gear, and Dec armors, and Dec offhand.
If you're still part of the partner program, there's no way I'd believe what you say.
The fact they made you edit and redact opinions on your video tells a lot about Pearl Abyss.
Every company does this. They don't want things out in the public without it being set in stone or finalized internally. This isn't unique to PA.
@@Drazyhazebro you realize people look 😅😅data mine leaks, rumors like the new gunner class etc. Sure keeping developments to the game employees sure. but this was purposefully made out to be a PR stunt and if they where smart they would have given out some teasers, some info on upcoming changes.... somethings....not get more gear or stand here for an hour as enemy's spawn 😅😅 also blue has a video and by your logic bdo should have many other thing in it from other balls showcasing "new content" that had yet to see the light of the game also quit white knighting bro... your ass sounds like this mf 🤓🤓
you clearly have no understanding on how a corporate business is ran. you're just parrotting a certain expartner lol
@@Drazyhaze it’s from information he posted on the 13 page document. He’s not an employee of the corporation and I’m sure what he had to say is not breaching his partner agreement.
@@Ha0KuaiDeJian it’s not about leaking information I might have to watch it again but I’m sure choice said he had a 90 reaction to the document they reviewed not late breaking information.
21:12 oh Finally a voice for lifeskill, now im interested!
idk locking someone out of content with the rng included doesnt feel right.
There allways some ppl who get so unlucky they could never play the new content
Choice just wants to be a God. The game is literally his life. They’d be better off talking to Dads and people with 9-5 jobs.
@@vindeiatrix I am promoting making all aspects of the game as profitable as grinding. That is favorable to people with 9-5s and kids, since it allows you to do the activities you prefer while earning progression in the game with the more limited time you get to play.
I think it's incredible that they called two people who didn't even play Shai to give feedback on the class, thanks to this stupidity the pearl abyss will definitely only weaken the class and leave it forgotten for years as it was in the past. xd
PA being afraid of talking about one sided decs is concerning
the main idea of a "competitive battle arena" is to measure the skill of its participants in an equal environment for everyone, if not it is IMPOSSIBLE to measure someone's skill when he is shielded by tons of gs. just give adequate rewards for those of us who are good at pvp without needing to have tons of gs on us, create if you want another AOS uncaped, i doubt that a mode like this will survive, it was already demonstrated in the arusha tournament that they organized... so unbalanced that almost nobody wanted to see it.
Yeah they've done one step, but before that they did 1000 step backwards, so doing 1 step in the right direction is miniscule compared to the damage they done. They've lied and damaged their reputation so many times now, that I've basically lost hope. I don't have anymore trust to give these people until I see action and not just words.
So to summarise you are saying that they have no fucking clue how to design an interesting game. Who would have guessed.
I literally don't care what the system is, if I can't use my gear in open world PvP, I will never spend time earning it. This is as a person at 750GS who quit with the guild dec changes a year ago. I am most people who quit.
No, I don't want a quarantine server like Arsha. I want a reason to have gear - to protect myself when grinding in an open world with limited resources.
they are going to separate those hardcore pvp to snowflakes players. PA aims to "pick up on your size" to avoid promoting bullying. hopefully hardcore pvp server should give good rewards to hold them up
no you're not the most people, you are less then 10%, but keep coping
@@Sentynel-Game literally started to go to shit when they did the war dec chances. Its you on cope, it’s you blind af
PA should add a easy way to get cronstone
oi don't touch the shai's ... its the only time i can run out of cooldowns 😥
@Im Choice very good topics you been talking about, I really wanna you talk about a siege system that is similar to Guild Wars 2, if you did not played that game please have a look on video about it, Its like 24/7 siege going around the week and end of weeks the points sum up and who is wining. This can be done as whole server of black desert playing it..I can't tell you how much Guild Wars 2 players dedicate their time for such gameplay, some of them consider it as a stand alone game.... give me your opinion about it please.
My God, you missed your chance to scream at the most incompetent dev team that fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line. They perma ruined the best combat mmo I've ever played haha I have literally 0 faith in their changes they will make. Glad you had a good trip though!
Well said about pvp i am 100% with you there. Only thing is still worth in BDO is aos yet it is the same 20-30 people at max who is doing it in EU. I kind know all the players who is doing pvp by their name or at least recognize them. I rarely see new names. Although after 2 hours in aos even if i had good time i always think that i had no progress in the game other just fun. Im afraid nothing new will happen about it. They only care for what money they make out of bdo for as long it remains alive and the expansion to China shows that. They did not try to bring players back they just expand to new market till it get depleted for them.
I just want that they try to bring classes on same level pve wise. Some specs are still so bad and left behind in pve. We need pve alot to move forward at a high Gearscore. Like myself i play Guardian for long time cause its good and chill at towerspots thats it. I would love to play more classes but some1 are just really bad in pve or have some other issue.
And i really would love that i could tag 2 chars so i have 3 chars with gear and that they share the same horse i have out on my main.