@@JH-nb6nw Lenz-kuh-necht. "ch" in german can be pronounced both as "sh" or as this raspy, throat cancer noise that's used nowhere in the english language. There's no rule that says when which pronunciation is correct so it's guess-work. Landsknecht uses the "sh" sound so i'd write it phonetically in english as "Lunds-knasht". An example for the raspy "ch" would be Achtung if you ever heard that. Edit: pronunciation, not pronounciation
@@towelie5997 No insult, but are you native German? ‚ch‘ is only ‚sh‘ when in combination with an ‚s‘ (‚sch‘). ‚Landsknecht‘ doesn’t have the ‚s‘, right? Maybe in a few German dialects the ‚ch‘ turns into something similar to the English ‚sh‘, but not in common German.
@@HellOnToastbrot I am and you're right, there's a difference between "ch" and "sch" but it's relatively small and i didn't know how to explain it better to an english speaker. I think english doesn't have our "soft ch" pronunciation as well as the "raspy ch" so "sh" was the closest aproximation i could think of to try to explain it. It's not perfect but it's really hard to talk about that stuff accurately in writing.
Really like the HRE, but I´d wish they had more unique units. Landsknechts are cool, but they seem to rarely do much as a light unit in the later game just gets destroyed by ranged units. Meanwhile the French have their Royal Knights, their Crossbowmen, their Royal Artillery etc. Give the HRE some more flavor; maybe a special Halberdier or Handgunner, or special economic unit like a Hnseatic Merchant that buffs trade etc.
They *technically* have a special Halberdier with their Spears being able to get +3 Melee armour via an Imperial age tech. It gives you a very cheap frontline unit that can hold it's ground agaisnt most enemies, even MMA. They won't beat the MMA, but they'll last a lot longer, allowing you to invest more ressources into other units like siege. It's a really cool and fun tech to have, being able to swarm with very cheap units to block your enemy while you advance with siege behind. My only gripe with this is that the tech is Imperial age, I feel it would open more strategies if it was available in Castle Age.
I thought landsknechts are useless until I had to build them for the mastery. The are absolutely nuts in greater numbers. But your point is obviously correct. They need to get in melee range and thats probably very hard against mass archers and mangonels. However if they do hit melee range they absolutely melt through anything. Check the video of noob of empires. He compared landsknecht to other units, maa for example. Even though they die faster the outcome of a mixed battle was the same or in favor of landsknechts. So i guess they aren't useless but you really need to watch out for the enemys comp. However, they excel in greater numbers. Small numbers just die before doing anything.
Germans hearing him mispronounce Landsknecht: You failed! Chinese hearing him mispronounce 诸葛弩 as Chukonu: Yeah its ok, we know Chinese is difficult. We know what you mean.
I really appreciate your work drongo. Have been watching your videos on a daily basis since the release of aoe4 and absolutely love your work. The combination of shout casting and knowledge dropping makes it not only entertaining but also a really good source of information. You are really pumping out great content, don't get burned out lad :P
I don’t even really like watching 1v1 strategy games and I’ve subbed this week to you. Very enjoyable to watch. Never played AOE4 and already feel like I know so much! Would love to see a #1 v #2 or top ten at least but really the ones I enjoy aren’t the ones they roll the opposition it’s those where we get to see clever players adapting on the fly and constantly one upping and countering each other until eventually the micro and better strategy wins out
Make taking damage from a treb recently reduce the effectiveness of repair effects. This would (possibly) give a reason to mix them when dealing with someone who is turtling, even if you have other siege.
I really like this idea. Increasing the damage could make them destroy buildings too fast, but to reduce the effectiveness of repairing creates a very interesting mechanic.
Man, Chinese tax is so underestimated.. especially when you mix it with trading. A couple markets in the academy influence can accrue massive tax gold, along with all your other buildings.. especially the granaries, but once again i see a basically unusable academy placement.. like you were saying Chinese are a base building civ, if you are efficient with your building placement it can really pay off. Not only that but he wasn’t using his officials to supervise the big gold mines when he had the chance, that’s a potential extra 1600 gold, pretty huge.
Yeah. Late game Kelazhur had 50~ pop space, 2k+ food and 1,3k+ wood and ZERO Markets. Might've been an oversight but it coulda helped him greatly specially with such secure trade lines.
Let's get some 2v2's going again with FitzBro. Or a giant FFA. Always glad to see different civs, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting burnt out on 1v1s.
Gotta be honest, I really dislike how pure ranged infantry is actually viable vs melee infantry via kiting. You cannot kite with a bow or a crossbow. simply not possible. yeah I know it isnt a simulation, but this one is so stupid I cant get over it.
Thank you for your service dude. I can see you as a professional caster for esports in general. You capture 99% of what is important and cast and commentate so so well.
I think you mean to say that the springald now serves as an anti-air unit that allows the player to achieve air superiority over their opponent if utilized correctly. Awesome game! Thanks for casting, Drongo.
Haha you made exactly the mistake Hermione tried to correct in the movie when you were quoting her, so I'm just gonna quote it correctly: 'It's Levi Ohsa, not Levio Sah' xD
honestly Drongo your Landsknecht is pretty decent for a none German you pronounce it absolutely right aside of one serious difficult error its Landsknecht not Landskinecht but youre very close
Unfortunately there wasn't a lot of margin left, keep in mind that his opponent had siege superiority and currently pushing with cannons while Kelazhur was completely out of gold and using Age 2 Archers. He wasn't able to match or stop Beasty. Had he transitionned over to trading earlier, he would have had a better chance but he thought he could claim the center with his castles.
Poor Khelazur. Triple TC song boom but still falling behind in eco in the castle age already. Wonder where it went wrong. Lack of upgrades? Lack of supervision? Hmmm
Hre eco's better and gets better bang for it's buck than china. Prelate 40% impOf: 20% max 4 IO's While HRE has prelates ready to grab relics on age 3 completion. MAA of the HRE are really strong vs most chinese stuff forcing them to go mass crossbows which makes them predictable. Regnitz, palace of swabia Springald nerfs also hit china really hard. It's a lot harder to defend yourself vs mango's as china now. NoB's are still underperforming in comparrison (even after the buffs), just due to the nature of the differences between them. (Range, projectile speed, accuracy and the one being a volley while the other barages) Late game culvs just make things nearly untennable for china unless you have bombard mass + hp upgrades + reload drills + pyro But HRE outperforms china on every step there. It's a gruesome and unpleasant matchup for china.
so wait. having 35 units = scared due to one mangonel? in starcraft 2, terran players have no problem spreading marines in fast mode against banelings. why cant AOE4 players spread out crossbow man to counter mangonels?!
Drongo, I like your videos, very entertaining. You don't have to pronounce the names correctly.. But why not just droo the talk about the pronounciation? Saying over and over that you don't know how to pronounce it or saying you think yiu are pronouncing it correctly is the annoying part for me. Sorry, just my two cents..
The Landsknecht pronunciation is pretty good for an english speaker. What annoys me is your pronunciation of the letter H. It is not "hage" but "age" like in age of empires. Not "hage pea", its "age pea".
You do a great job of being a positive voice in the community, sharing his love for the game and the creativity of top players!
Man, these games between Beasty and Kelahzur have been really enjoyable. They are very well matched.
This is the first time I noticed that maps have the shade of clouds moving across them - how awesome
Love HRE, hoping for slight buff just to give them that nudge.
Also finally fix the damn monk bug. Im tired of my holy man not buffing my villagers.
@@berserk1934 and spearmen brace bug
Start with making regnitz catherdal a monestary, a bit annoying having to build a monestary just for prelate upgrade
Me 3 weeks ago : Man this new medieval game seems pretty fun
Me after finding Drongo : Dude Beasty played Viper?? Gotta check that out
Don't worry about pronunciation, Drongo. As long as landsknecht has 2 syllables, you're close enough in my book!
What's the worst pronunciation you've heard (so far)?
@@JH-nb6nw Lenz-kuh-necht. "ch" in german can be pronounced both as "sh" or as this raspy, throat cancer noise that's used nowhere in the english language. There's no rule that says when which pronunciation is correct so it's guess-work. Landsknecht uses the "sh" sound so i'd write it phonetically in english as "Lunds-knasht". An example for the raspy "ch" would be Achtung if you ever heard that.
Edit: pronunciation, not pronounciation
@@towelie5997 No insult, but are you native German? ‚ch‘ is only ‚sh‘ when in combination with an ‚s‘ (‚sch‘). ‚Landsknecht‘ doesn’t have the ‚s‘, right? Maybe in a few German dialects the ‚ch‘ turns into something similar to the English ‚sh‘, but not in common German.
@@HellOnToastbrot I am and you're right, there's a difference between "ch" and "sch" but it's relatively small and i didn't know how to explain it better to an english speaker. I think english doesn't have our "soft ch" pronunciation as well as the "raspy ch" so "sh" was the closest aproximation i could think of to try to explain it. It's not perfect but it's really hard to talk about that stuff accurately in writing.
@@towelie5997 Ouch that's horrible indeed, just give me either the Dutch or German one lol
Really like the HRE, but I´d wish they had more unique units. Landsknechts are cool, but they seem to rarely do much as a light unit in the later game just gets destroyed by ranged units. Meanwhile the French have their Royal Knights, their Crossbowmen, their Royal Artillery etc. Give the HRE some more flavor; maybe a special Halberdier or Handgunner, or special economic unit like a Hnseatic Merchant that buffs trade etc.
heavy armor pikeman would be dope
They *technically* have a special Halberdier with their Spears being able to get +3 Melee armour via an Imperial age tech. It gives you a very cheap frontline unit that can hold it's ground agaisnt most enemies, even MMA. They won't beat the MMA, but they'll last a lot longer, allowing you to invest more ressources into other units like siege.
It's a really cool and fun tech to have, being able to swarm with very cheap units to block your enemy while you advance with siege behind. My only gripe with this is that the tech is Imperial age, I feel it would open more strategies if it was available in Castle Age.
I thought landsknechts are useless until I had to build them for the mastery. The are absolutely nuts in greater numbers. But your point is obviously correct. They need to get in melee range and thats probably very hard against mass archers and mangonels. However if they do hit melee range they absolutely melt through anything.
Check the video of noob of empires. He compared landsknecht to other units, maa for example.
Even though they die faster the outcome of a mixed battle was the same or in favor of landsknechts. So i guess they aren't useless but you really need to watch out for the enemys comp.
However, they excel in greater numbers. Small numbers just die before doing anything.
Their men at arms wreck
@@Jascosaurus yep, though i wish they can get tankier (they’re mad when buffed by prelate though, but it’s somewhat bugged rn)
This match was excellent. Love to see the mixed army compositions
Germans hearing him mispronounce Landsknecht: You failed!
Chinese hearing him mispronounce 诸葛弩 as Chukonu: Yeah its ok, we know Chinese is difficult. We know what you mean.
I laughed unreasonably hard at "check the log? That's not my job!" for some reason
I really appreciate your work drongo. Have been watching your videos on a daily basis since the release of aoe4 and absolutely love your work. The combination of shout casting and knowledge dropping makes it not only entertaining but also a really good source of information.
You are really pumping out great content, don't get burned out lad :P
Love all your vids Drongo, glad you and the community are digging AOE IV still
i'm a big beasty fan but kelazhur continues to impress. good shit.
you got me with "he is a little bit like obi-wan kenobi right now"
I will never get tired of watching these Drongo casting and Aoe4 to good of a composition 🙂
I don’t even really like watching 1v1 strategy games and I’ve subbed this week to you. Very enjoyable to watch. Never played AOE4 and already feel like I know so much!
Would love to see a #1 v #2 or top ten at least but really the ones I enjoy aren’t the ones they roll the opposition it’s those where we get to see clever players adapting on the fly and constantly one upping and countering each other until eventually the micro and better strategy wins out
Gooday!!! Great Comentary Drongo - you are and will remain THE iconic voice in AOE, Don't take the critics too hard!!
For AOE3. He has some competition with AOE4 because of SOTL.
Make taking damage from a treb recently reduce the effectiveness of repair effects. This would (possibly) give a reason to mix them when dealing with someone who is turtling, even if you have other siege.
I really like this idea.
Increasing the damage could make them destroy buildings too fast, but to reduce the effectiveness of repairing creates a very interesting mechanic.
Man, Chinese tax is so underestimated.. especially when you mix it with trading. A couple markets in the academy influence can accrue massive tax gold, along with all your other buildings.. especially the granaries, but once again i see a basically unusable academy placement.. like you were saying Chinese are a base building civ, if you are efficient with your building placement it can really pay off. Not only that but he wasn’t using his officials to supervise the big gold mines when he had the chance, that’s a potential extra 1600 gold, pretty huge.
Yeah. Late game Kelazhur had 50~ pop space, 2k+ food and 1,3k+ wood and ZERO Markets. Might've been an oversight but it coulda helped him greatly specially with such secure trade lines.
loving the lunch connect (landsknecht) pronunciation :D -> you're doing great - love the videos
No trading? Seems like it would’ve been safe for either player so I’m not sure why kelazhur didn’t fall back on it.
yeah that's what made me wonder, I wld've traded the shit outta that match
Let's get some 2v2's going again with FitzBro. Or a giant FFA.
Always glad to see different civs, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting burnt out on 1v1s.
Beasty and Kelazhurs constant games against each other is really funny to me
16:34 love how you pronounce landsknecht, after you pause for a bit and try to say it the right way in a different non-excited voice :)
Gotta be honest, I really dislike how pure ranged infantry is actually viable vs melee infantry via kiting. You cannot kite with a bow or a crossbow. simply not possible. yeah I know it isnt a simulation, but this one is so stupid I cant get over it.
Thanks for sharing
Crusaders didnt like that much either during the crusades. England didnt like that very much during American revolution either......
Another awesome casting from you drongo. Keep it up i love the energy you bring in while casting this high level games.
"You won't see a springald"
Players build springalds
"You just never see trebuchets"
Players build trebs
Really got your finger on the pulse there
trebuchet is always #1 in our hearts
Thank you for your service dude. I can see you as a professional caster for esports in general. You capture 99% of what is important and cast and commentate so so well.
Hahahaha it must be your first game from him.
LOL
The HRE is one of those Civs I really want to be good. And they are if your given time. I love the mass Infantry and how strong their MAA are.
Trebuchets for mongols is only 400 wood and 150 gold, so to give a buff to trebuchets you would need to make even more cheap for mongols
New Sub, played AoE in the early 90’s… great commentary!!!
I think you mean to say that the springald now serves as an anti-air unit that allows the player to achieve air superiority over their opponent if utilized correctly. Awesome game! Thanks for casting, Drongo.
Haha you made exactly the mistake Hermione tried to correct in the movie when you were quoting her, so I'm just gonna quote it correctly: 'It's Levi Ohsa, not Levio Sah' xD
Just love your casting and your love for trebuchets 😄
"Shhhh, be quiet!" -> Landskne"shh"t. That's how you pronounce it. I am sure now you can impress us Drongo. Greetings from Germany :P.
He should just pronounce it the Dutch way instead. Get that guttural G in. (:
honestly Drongo your Landsknecht is pretty decent for a none German you pronounce it absolutely right aside of one serious difficult error its Landsknecht not Landskinecht but youre very close
Fantastic game, we got all units, keeps and walls. Also battles all over the map.
Love this series! Thanks Drongo!
I really want English trebuchets to be the imperial age mangonel it's advertised as
Please don't ever stop saying Landsgnescht as a german I can say that it cracks me up everytime 😂👍
Comment for the algorithm. Keep up your work. great casting
Wow, a game that doesn't have mongols in it. Legit.
Could prelate buffing archers/crossbowmen be very good?
Range is pretty bad too on the mongols Trebuchet. Springalds can out range it. Thats a problem.
Curious about this tap out, there was a lot of margin left for victory on Kelazhur's side
Unfortunately there wasn't a lot of margin left, keep in mind that his opponent had siege superiority and currently pushing with cannons while Kelazhur was completely out of gold and using Age 2 Archers. He wasn't able to match or stop Beasty.
Had he transitionned over to trading earlier, he would have had a better chance but he thought he could claim the center with his castles.
China was completely out of gold. No way to compete in economy.
wingardium leviosAAAAWNN 7:48
Maths• You're Australian, you know better.
culverin is just the best. they are just the chad springalds
jeez im exhausted just by watching. imagine casting or help me god play this :D
New drinking game.... every time he says "keep in mind" should get you shit faced pretty quick.
How do u do to put that upper left resources window?
this match was so good
just call em Landsharks
Beasty Watch
Sick game!!
Poor Khelazur. Triple TC song boom but still falling behind in eco in the castle age already. Wonder where it went wrong. Lack of upgrades? Lack of supervision? Hmmm
Hre eco's better and gets better bang for it's buck than china.
Prelate 40% impOf: 20% max 4 IO's
While HRE has prelates ready to grab relics on age 3 completion.
MAA of the HRE are really strong vs most chinese stuff forcing them to go mass crossbows which makes them predictable.
Regnitz, palace of swabia
Springald nerfs also hit china really hard. It's a lot harder to defend yourself vs mango's as china now. NoB's are still underperforming in comparrison (even after the buffs), just due to the nature of the differences between them. (Range, projectile speed, accuracy and the one being a volley while the other barages)
Late game culvs just make things nearly untennable for china unless you have bombard mass + hp upgrades + reload drills + pyro
But HRE outperforms china on every step there.
It's a gruesome and unpleasant matchup for china.
"It's leviOHsa not levioSAH
After watching viper okay HRE, everyone else seems slow.
I wish bombards and springalds didn't exist
Cringed hard when Drongo couldn't recall The Forbidden One Exodia.
Hey drongo why do you always ha e fog of war on? Is that just automatic? I would like to see the whole minimap the whole time.
whats with all the beasty/ kela matches lately
so wait. having 35 units = scared due to one mangonel? in starcraft 2, terran players have no problem spreading marines in fast mode against banelings. why cant AOE4 players spread out crossbow man to counter mangonels?!
I was thinking the exact same thing. just Baneling split your MAA and attack from a wider arc
0:27 Hover horse? Not very good leg animation.
Exodia
It's Leviosa not Leviosaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
The only reason BeastyQT won here is because civ pick.
Kelazhur is obviously the better player, as previous games have proven over and over again.
Ok
Clocktower Landmark needs a bit nerf.
HRE is OP , its need some economic nerfs
Game starts at 25:00
Why do you speed these videos up in addition to your commentary?
Guys should talk less about it so I get my 70% discount faster please thanks
trebuchet way too powerful right now def need a nerf
git gud
There is absolutely nothing good about an army of siege weapons its boring
Hre just won because of that stupid gold buff, ridiculous
BUFF knights NERF chi-na
NERF chi-na before Nerf Mog and Russ? WTF man?
Drongo, I like your videos, very entertaining.
You don't have to pronounce the names correctly.. But why not just droo the talk about the pronounciation?
Saying over and over that you don't know how to pronounce it or saying you think yiu are pronouncing it correctly is the annoying part for me.
Sorry, just my two cents..
The Landsknecht pronunciation is pretty good for an english speaker. What annoys me is your pronunciation of the letter H. It is not "hage" but "age" like in age of empires. Not "hage pea", its "age pea".
In Australia we all say it like "hage". I might be biased but it makes more sense to me seeings "hage" actually starts with the letter H
He should instead pronounce it the Dutch way. Get that guttural G going.