why not profile the actual amp then compare? using a profile made by someone else against another is amp in different settings isnt really a comparison
Thing is that they didn’t profile the amp with the same mic position and same eq they used to record the amp for the video so this can’t be a real comparison
This is a very well done test: 1. Used the same guitar when comparing parts. 2. Had the same player when comparing parts. 3. The playing itself was very good. 4. Blind test. 5. Played clean and dirty tones. I like amp 2 more (although they both sound good), and I believe amp 2 is the AFD100
Amp one on the distorted part at 3:39 sound huge while when amp 2 chimes in, is sounds way less distorted with almost an acoustic tone mixed in. I liked the Kemper way better!
When the comparison had started, from the intro of Sweet Child O' Mine got me the guess of the AFD as the 2nd amp, which has a more powerful distortion and more bite compared to the Kemper. But for the clean tone, I didn't expect for the 1st amp, Kemper, to outdo the AFD considering that the tubes in it make it less cleaner compared to the digital stuff. Very good comparison!
For me this was easy because I own the AFD100. The difference is big and will always be between digital and analog tube amps. Modeling will get you there but far away. AFD is one of the best amps, in the band mix it really shines and live situation. I've tried over the years, almost all digital and immediately the first thing that bothers is the latency. You may not hear but I feel and sense it. Another thing that jumps on your face is a slim and sharp sound landscape. AXE and KEMPER guys of course believe their boxes.
Not!!!!, have always preferred sound 2, because I hesitate to sell my jcm and my bassman to buy a kemper, and I said to myself if 2 is a kemper, I buy it, but no !! ! is the real amp. so I keep my real amps. no pods, no e11rack, no kempers amps!!!
Well, this is not a comparison of Kemper vs. real amp. It’s a comparison of how well one studio engineer did his job compared to some other engineer. If you like the real amp sound better then profile that and use that profile. Or buy a different commercial AFD profile
So much this. This is a snapshot of a different micplacement/cab vs. micing it yourself with your cab. They should have created a snapshot based on their setup.
It's all about the profile and the quality of the profile. Not saying it's not possible these two guys to create a quality profile... but let MBritt take a crack at it. Not the same league.
Why are people hating on the fact that the profile was bought rather than made by the person himself? Let me ask you this, what is the purpose of the Kemper to YOU when YOU buy it? It's to get access to amplifiers you will never own, let alone be able to profile. It's fair that he compares them in this way. Also, if you're a shit person at micing to the point that you'll make an AFD sound worse than its Kemper copy that was made by someone who is brilliant at micing things up, then that's another benefit of the Kemper. It saves you the trouble and the costs of having to do things yourself. You guys care about the technicalities and the little details while the maker of the video obviously cares about what's useful in the real world. This is as real as it gets, guys, not the other way round. I don't see why you guys are demanding that he'd profile that amp himself.
Dopo la prima nota di sweet child o mine avevo capito subito che il secondo amp era proprio l AFD....un suono distorto inconfondibile...Grandi ragazzi!
I personally prefer the distortion on the Marshall, the Kemper cleans, but I think the Kemper actually sounded "closer" in comparison to stuff off AFD. But I feel the AFD tone is more somewhere in-between the two amps.
It's important to note that Amp1 is not the profile of Amp2 but it's a profile of another AFD chain; infact they sounds quite different... anyway, Amp1 sounds better to me for those songs
Your videos are the best I am surprised that you have few likes if you are great I love your videos greetings from mexico continues so you are the best
ragazzi, questa è una vera comparazione! Al mio inesperto orecchio chitarristico devo dire che, a parte piccole sfumature, i due suoni risultano spaventosamente simili. Questo Kemper, non c'è che dire, fa veramente un gran lavoro. E quasi mi dispiace! :) Ma a parte le diavolerie digitali alla fine ci vuol sempre un gran chitarrista, e devo dire che lo siete entrambi, non solo per la riproduzione fedelissima, ma anche per la scioltezza. Di dove siete?
To be fair the Kemper is dependent on how good you are at micing an amp, or you can DI the amp and then you're dependent on the IR quality (Ownhammer, etc). Any amp can sound dang near any other if you're good at micing. I think they both sound great and I love how fat the AFD is. Great example!
Besides the obvious EQ'ing the kemper gives, I clearly hear the AFD is more dynamic and sounds like it's more true to the guitar's tone. The Kemper doesn't sound bad, especially in a live mix and when you're not AB'ing it would be hard to hear it's not a tube-amp, but it's one-dimensional, lacks the typical slashy sweetness and is less 'transparent'. My experience exactly with Kemper and other modelers. In the room you can clearly distinguish them.
Amp 2 sounds like a Marshall as opposed to amp 1 sounding like a Marshall after the mix. I can see the Kemper having a real value to anybody wanting ability to go between a lot of sounds or variations without too many compromises. On a Marshall you'd have to go with 2 full stacks and a rack plus a lot of gear filling up the stage to achieve the same as the Kemper can do rather convincing. Not perfect, but it is 90% there
We need to remember that Kemper has infinite amplifiers (profiles) and Marshall is just like the one, I have tested AFD profiles much better than this one used in the test, so Kemper is the best deal, and it can be used with low sound in any environment .
Indovinato alla prima nota...speravo il contrario...sarei andato a comprare il Kemper al volo. Resta comunque una grande macchina... Bravi, grazie per la prova!
Ciao ragazzi. Intanto bravi. Bel video test, essenziale e ben suonato. Fin dal primo fraseggio ho riconosciuto la rotondità del crunch Marshall, la valvola si sente subito. Quindi, io sto con Marshall. Il Kemper può dare comunque molto, se ben settato. Rock on
I thought Amp 1 sounded best in all examples and more similar to Slash's tone and thought it would have been the amp. How wrong was I? Kemper is amazing!
I agree with you..... there's more volume on the AFD on the intro part.. it's funny how for a lot of people here that comes to sound as "better tone"... if you go back and check and you imagine both tones at the same volume level.. you might change your mind. In fact the tone of the kemper sounded so natural to me that I also thought it would be the AFD.... Bottom line: KEMPER really is amazing!
i agree. amp 1 was more closer to sweet child tone. actually slash’s amp was modified version. and kemper and this tube are just imitating that slash amp each different way one digitally the other using tube. So only tone... i think kemper more similar that tone when i heard original song.
The AFD has more dynamic and definition than the Kemper which is basically very flat. The solos gave away the amp especially the PC intro solo. The AFD can sound very damped when not properly EQ-ed and cranked. I assume the power attenuator was off, but mind you that the combination (master) volume and distortion can make or break the sound of the AFD. But it is like everybody says, this comparison is kinda meaningless and in my opinion no conclusion can be drawn from it other than personal preference.
true the AFD , the real have more dynamics, but also, the kemper can have thousands sounds in one box, so ..it is really a personal choice . grazie raggazi :)
Strangely, I prefered the AFD on first song, and the kemper on the second song ! I guess, the differences would have been less if you had profiled the amp yourself and not used a commercial profile.
Si sente lontano un miglio (sui distorti) che l'1 è il Kemper :-) Bravi ragazzi.Il fare i paragoni diretti è l'unico modo per capire DAVVERO come suona un ampli rispetto ad un altro, o a una profilazione appunto. Complimenti!
Indovinato 😁 niente male il kemper davvero però avendo provato un afd100 in sala prove ricordavo il sound, comunque spettacolari entrambi, non pensavo che il kemper potesse arrivare a tanto
Si,ho indovinato! purtroppo si sente bene la differenza,la dinamica c'è nel kemper eccome però gli manca ancora qualcosa che lo rende unico e uguale nel profilare. poi ovviamente dipende anche dal profilo. I valvolari restano comunque REALI quando suoni,si sente il vero suono puro sule corde e delle mani. Sono anni che suono anche in digitare e mi piace un sacco,ma tengo sempre ben stretti i valvolari in camera :) Gran bel video Danilo! se riesci puoi fare il confronto con le altre piattaforme digitali come Helix e AX8 ecc. Se hai bisogno di fare una prova con altri profili io ho una 5150 prima serie e sarebbe un piacere apparire in un tuo video :D
Ehilà! Lo so, e hai ragione su tutto non posso contraddire haha eeeh magari, lo farei volentieri ma non ho ne un Helix ne un AX8 😭 per il confronto con la 5150 sarebbe figo ma sarebbe da fare nello stesso ambiente con lo stesso mic con la stessa strumentazione e tutto xD
io l'ho avuta la testata AFD e ho indovinato pur essendo molto scarso come chitarrista :-) tengo a precisare che l' ho data via solo perché mi hanno fatto un' offerta non rifiutabile :-) ora in casa ho una jcm 800 da 1 Watt... bellissima !!! ciao e grazie x i vostri video.
Amp 1 sounded clearer/more 'open' than Amp 2 in this clip ... What mode/settings was the AFD on? Did it have a rather compressed sound? Or perhpas it was the mic'ing ... ? My choice or Slash GnR sounds would be a Jube or 2203, properly mic'ed ... :) I haven't been impressed with recorded AFD tones that I've heard ... :/ kemper seemed pretty darn good, in this clip anyway ...
In my opinion if you have the eqs with such a difference I don't see the point in compare them. If they were more similar sounding I would take a guess. How did you do this comparison? Same cab?
So to make this make sense..Did you make the profile you tested with the Amp tested against? No 2 amps will sound the same especially variables like speakers etc.
Clearly the Marshall sounds better when cranked but both sounded good. Where the Kemper wins out so heavily is it's conistency and versitility and above all the fact that you can just plug it straight into your DAW or front of house and it sounds the same every time. There is reason bands like Metallica and countless others use AxeFx live now. They leave the $200k amp collection back in the studio.
1234gregor marshall may well sound better cranked, but this test says little about kemper. Apparently the amp set up wasn't profiled; therefore so it's to he expected that there will be bigger differences than usual.
Did you profile your own AFD and compare like for like or were you using the AFD profile that comes with the Kemper? Did you run the Kemper through a cabinet and mic it or was it a full rig including Cabinet and Mic profiles? I actually thought they both sounded very similar but Amp 1 was better for both clean and dirty sounds.
Grandissima trovata, bella idea!!! Comunque il Kemper è figo ma il valvolare è imbattibile secondo me. Anche nei puliti mi è piaciuto di più, è vero quello che avete detto, però boh, gusto mio, preferisco il suono meno nitido del valvolare sul pulito però più "vero" diciamo, con il kemper si sente molto, infatti, che è digitale, nonostante sia comunque figo
Devo dire che li ho azzeccati tutti e due.. ma devo dire che dal duello di Federico, il suono del Kemper mi piace di più... io sono un tipo che per natura preferisco l analogico... intanto perö stò costruendo con delle scatole di tabacco ampli di potenza classe D.. ov. davanti attacchi pedalini di ogni tipo, mentre dietro va collegata una qualsiasi cassa tra 4- 16 ohm. ....materiale ca. 10 euro.. potenza di uscita: 123 db Comanda pezzi: Aliexpress...
Nice! But they sound completely different.... Did you used like an generic profile from an AFD amp ? Or this is the profile from your amp at the same settings? Cannot tell this a "clone" at all... if it is, Kemper just cannot clone at all a AFD...
Non hai specificato come hai registrato l'ampli. Il kemper era più simile al suono del disco nei distorti, ma in ogni caso centrava poco. La vera differenza sembra una equalizzazione diversa dei due più che altro. Comunque a ognuno il suo: Kemper se vuoi praticità in studio, ampli veri se vuoi viverlo il suono che sia dal vivo o nella sala prove.
I honestly liked amp 2 better and I was hoping like hell it wasn't the kemper. Thank god it wasn't. I saw a video on andertons channel and had a hard time telling the difference. In this video I feel like it's more "real word" and I am so thankful that all the money I have spent on tube amps wasn't wasted. Great video.
Jason White apparently they didn't profile the amp tone as in the video, but used some profile of an afd someome else shot... (Or maybe they shot it, but of a different afd rig, who knows..?). Point is Kemper could well have gotten closer to the amp tone here had they profiled the tone as it was set up. Not much of a conclusion about kemper can be drawn from the above methodology.
people tend to forget about "YOUR" investment. buy a new kemper sell it for a loss buy a great amp and if you have to sell it you usually get your investment back. Plus tube amps rule. always have , always will. I have a Diaz CD-100 and a Warren Haynes Special. If I ever sold them I would get ALOT more than I paid for them.
Something is wrong... they sound so different the profile can't possibly being the same setup. When I profile my own, the difference is 1% which is mostly remedied by some tweaking, at least for close mic'd. Here, you have like a 20-25% difference. This has to be user error.
The AFD was a hugely disappointing amp. Slash doesn't even use it anymore. He went back to his trusted Silver Jubilees and has been using the 2555x reissue.
A mio parere personale trovo che il Kemper suoni più definito più brillante, il Marshall è più chiuso/ovattato a livello di suono (forse per farlo suonare come si deve bisognerebbe spingere le valvole molto di più..).. quindi in questo caso per me il suono del Kemper è meglio dell'originale e lo dice uno che possiede solo ampli a valvole.
Ho sentito dire che l'introduzione di paradise city è stata registrata con un jc-40 della roland con il chorus giá insertito sull'amp. Se ne trovi uno fammelo sentire ;)
avrei detto il contrario...infatti mi piaceva di più il kemper nei disotrti e nei puliti anche se la differenza è minima. Ho notato che l'ampli fisico aveva le alte più acide (soprattutto nel test 2). Grazie per il video ben fatto..ottimo lavoro complimenti ragazzi
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The sweet child intro on amp2 was perfect. Amp 2 have a very sweet tone
why not profile the actual amp then compare? using a profile made by someone else against another is amp in different settings isnt really a comparison
Cool. I was right. I think both sounded good, but the AFD definitely sounded better for the distorted tracks.
Agree
Thing is that they didn’t profile the amp with the same mic position and same eq they used to record the amp for the video so this can’t be a real comparison
This is a very well done test:
1. Used the same guitar when comparing parts.
2. Had the same player when comparing parts.
3. The playing itself was very good.
4. Blind test.
5. Played clean and dirty tones.
I like amp 2 more (although they both sound good), and I believe amp 2 is the AFD100
Thanks a lot mate!
Problem is, that the profile on the Kemper had nothing to do with the setup they were running after the AFD.
ayeapprove which renders the whole test pretty much meaningless at least in terms of profiling accuracy.
damn marshall always sound better than other amp brands even afd 100 is discontinued still anyone know the settings for the dookie album
Amp one on the distorted part at 3:39 sound huge while when amp 2 chimes in, is sounds way less distorted with almost an acoustic tone mixed in. I liked the Kemper way better!
I could tell between amp 1 and 2 because the Marshall I feel has more bite and attack sound to it than the kemper
I guessed what amp2 is AFD. Amp1 sound like it already eq.
When the comparison had started, from the intro of Sweet Child O' Mine got me the guess of the AFD as the 2nd amp, which has a more powerful distortion and more bite compared to the Kemper. But for the clean tone, I didn't expect for the 1st amp, Kemper, to outdo the AFD considering that the tubes in it make it less cleaner compared to the digital stuff. Very good comparison!
For me this was easy because I own the AFD100.
The difference is big and will always be between digital and analog tube amps.
Modeling will get you there but far away.
AFD is one of the best amps, in the band mix it really shines and live situation.
I've tried over the years, almost all digital and immediately the first thing that bothers is the latency. You may not hear but I feel and sense it.
Another thing that jumps on your face is a slim and sharp sound landscape.
AXE and KEMPER guys of course believe their boxes.
During Sweet Child amp 2 all the way
the winner is the AFD but that's because of a bad profile.
Not!!!!, have always preferred sound 2, because I hesitate to sell my jcm and my bassman to buy a kemper, and I said to myself if 2 is a kemper, I buy it, but no !! ! is the real amp. so I keep my real amps. no pods, no e11rack, no kempers amps!!!
I don’t think I could have guessed, but each time my fav tone was amp-2. Easy. Nice playing guys. Really appreciate it!
Damn they both sound great, but I think I liked how amp 1 was slightly cleaner for the solos.
Didnt know which was which but I enjoyed “Amp 2” better in most examples. The Kemper sounds solid though.
Well, this is not a comparison of Kemper vs. real amp. It’s a comparison of how well one studio engineer did his job compared to some other engineer. If you like the real amp sound better then profile that and use that profile. Or buy a different commercial AFD profile
So much this. This is a snapshot of a different micplacement/cab vs. micing it yourself with your cab.
They should have created a snapshot based on their setup.
It's all about the profile and the quality of the profile. Not saying it's not possible these two guys to create a quality profile... but let MBritt take a crack at it. Not the same league.
Why are people hating on the fact that the profile was bought rather than made by the person himself?
Let me ask you this, what is the purpose of the Kemper to YOU when YOU buy it? It's to get access to amplifiers you will never own, let alone be able to profile. It's fair that he compares them in this way.
Also, if you're a shit person at micing to the point that you'll make an AFD sound worse than its Kemper copy that was made by someone who is brilliant at micing things up, then that's another benefit of the Kemper. It saves you the trouble and the costs of having to do things yourself.
You guys care about the technicalities and the little details while the maker of the video obviously cares about what's useful in the real world. This is as real as it gets, guys, not the other way round. I don't see why you guys are demanding that he'd profile that amp himself.
There are definitely differences but, was the Kemper profile made from the exact same amp, speaker and mic setup?
Cant believe I guessed It right, my ears are getting better I guess, really interesting video!
AMP 2
Dopo la prima nota di sweet child o mine avevo capito subito che il secondo amp era proprio l AFD....un suono distorto inconfondibile...Grandi ragazzi!
FAFFO IDEM 😉😉
Anche io
I got both amps :D and I think your AFD100 kemper profile was not very good... Check Top Jimmi AFD profile out. I said it is much better profile.
concordo con pep ito
I agree. The Top Jimi profiles rock! The first profile that made me love my Kemper.
I personally prefer the distortion on the Marshall, the Kemper cleans, but I think the Kemper actually sounded "closer" in comparison to stuff off AFD. But I feel the AFD tone is more somewhere in-between the two amps.
nice comparison and nice playing. Surprised that is was so easy to tell which was the AFD
It's important to note that Amp1 is not the profile of Amp2 but it's a profile of another AFD chain; infact they sounds quite different... anyway, Amp1 sounds better to me for those songs
Your videos are the best I am surprised that you have few likes if you are great I love your videos greetings from mexico continues so you are the best
+Eiron Cooper thanks a lot man! I’ll keep doing my best!
Great video. I guessed right, afd lead tone is amazing.
I didn't know which Amp was which, but I ended up with the same opinion as the long haired guy. Distortion - Marshall, clean - the other thing 🤘🇲🇽
Grande danilo grande fede! Siete bravissimi!!
ragazzi, questa è una vera comparazione! Al mio inesperto orecchio chitarristico devo dire che, a parte piccole sfumature, i due suoni risultano spaventosamente simili. Questo Kemper, non c'è che dire, fa veramente un gran lavoro. E quasi mi dispiace! :) Ma a parte le diavolerie digitali alla fine ci vuol sempre un gran chitarrista, e devo dire che lo siete entrambi, non solo per la riproduzione fedelissima, ma anche per la scioltezza.
Di dove siete?
To be fair the Kemper is dependent on how good you are at micing an amp, or you can DI the amp and then you're dependent on the IR quality (Ownhammer, etc). Any amp can sound dang near any other if you're good at micing. I think they both sound great and I love how fat the AFD is. Great example!
Besides the obvious EQ'ing the kemper gives, I clearly hear the AFD is more dynamic and sounds like it's more true to the guitar's tone. The Kemper doesn't sound bad, especially in a live mix and when you're not AB'ing it would be hard to hear it's not a tube-amp, but it's one-dimensional, lacks the typical slashy sweetness and is less 'transparent'.
My experience exactly with Kemper and other modelers. In the room you can clearly distinguish them.
Amp 2 sounds like a Marshall as opposed to amp 1 sounding like a Marshall after the mix. I can see the Kemper having a real value to anybody wanting ability to go between a lot of sounds or variations without too many compromises. On a Marshall you'd have to go with 2 full stacks and a rack plus a lot of gear filling up the stage to achieve the same as the Kemper can do rather convincing. Not perfect, but it is 90% there
We need to remember that Kemper has infinite amplifiers (profiles) and Marshall is just like the one, I have tested AFD profiles much better than this one used in the test, so Kemper is the best deal, and it can be used with low sound in any environment .
or you can just study and play better and learn how to sound like you want to sound in every amp
+Mathcartney it's not about this in this video Kemper wins
Mathcartney sure, try making your Marshall sound like a Vox. Btw I play a valve amp and I love it
I'm in love with tubeamps, so, ofcourse I knew that amp 2 was the tubeamp! And believe me, I don't lie!
AWESOME playing on that Sweet Child solo....you really nailed the quirks...no wah?
Hey Guys,
thank`s for your interessant comparison
Frederico has a very good guitar tone!
With the Amp Marshall 100 AFD he sounds almost like Slash.
Indovinato alla prima nota...speravo il contrario...sarei andato a comprare il Kemper al volo.
Resta comunque una grande macchina...
Bravi, grazie per la prova!
Ciao ragazzi. Intanto bravi. Bel video test, essenziale e ben suonato. Fin dal primo fraseggio ho riconosciuto la rotondità del crunch Marshall, la valvola si sente subito. Quindi, io sto con Marshall. Il Kemper può dare comunque molto, se ben settato. Rock on
I thought Amp 1 sounded best in all examples and more similar to Slash's tone and thought it would have been the amp. How wrong was I? Kemper is amazing!
I agree with you..... there's more volume on the AFD on the intro part.. it's funny how for a lot of people here that comes to sound as "better tone"... if you go back and check and you imagine both tones at the same volume level.. you might change your mind. In fact the tone of the kemper sounded so natural to me that I also thought it would be the AFD.... Bottom line: KEMPER really is amazing!
I think ur tone deaf sorry
i agree. amp 1 was more closer to sweet child tone. actually slash’s amp was modified version. and kemper and this tube are just imitating that slash amp each different way one digitally the other using tube. So only tone... i think kemper more similar that tone when i heard original song.
The AFD has more dynamic and definition than the Kemper which is basically very flat. The solos gave away the amp especially the PC intro solo. The AFD can sound very damped when not properly EQ-ed and cranked. I assume the power attenuator was off, but mind you that the combination (master) volume and distortion can make or break the sound of the AFD. But it is like everybody says, this comparison is kinda meaningless and in my opinion no conclusion can be drawn from it other than personal preference.
true the AFD , the real have more dynamics, but also, the kemper can have thousands sounds in one box, so ..it is really a personal choice . grazie raggazi :)
Can you say where you bought the Kemper profile? Sounded great to me. 🤘
Strangely, I prefered the AFD on first song, and the kemper on the second song !
I guess, the differences would have been less if you had profiled the amp yourself and not used a commercial profile.
I also enjoyed the clean tone on the first amp!!!
But I prefer the AFD
Love both tones! Although the only thing that throws me off is the drums! XD
Si sente lontano un miglio (sui distorti) che l'1 è il Kemper :-)
Bravi ragazzi.Il fare i paragoni diretti è l'unico modo per capire DAVVERO come suona un ampli rispetto ad un altro, o a una profilazione appunto.
Complimenti!
Indovinato 😁 niente male il kemper davvero però avendo provato un afd100 in sala prove ricordavo il sound, comunque spettacolari entrambi, non pensavo che il kemper potesse arrivare a tanto
Si,ho indovinato! purtroppo si sente bene la differenza,la dinamica c'è nel kemper eccome però gli manca ancora qualcosa che lo rende unico e uguale nel profilare. poi ovviamente dipende anche dal profilo. I valvolari restano comunque REALI quando suoni,si sente il vero suono puro sule corde e delle mani. Sono anni che suono anche in digitare e mi piace un sacco,ma tengo sempre ben stretti i valvolari in camera :) Gran bel video Danilo! se riesci puoi fare il confronto con le altre piattaforme digitali come Helix e AX8 ecc. Se hai bisogno di fare una prova con altri profili io ho una 5150 prima serie e sarebbe un piacere apparire in un tuo video :D
Ehilà! Lo so, e hai ragione su tutto non posso contraddire haha eeeh magari, lo farei volentieri ma non ho ne un Helix ne un AX8 😭 per il confronto con la 5150 sarebbe figo ma sarebbe da fare nello stesso ambiente con lo stesso mic con la stessa strumentazione e tutto xD
I made the right guess, but then again, I own an AFD100 myself, so I should know! LOL
Good video!
Great vid! Could totally tell the difference, AFD all the way!
I guessed It right away........that AFD have a sweet tone!!!
io l'ho avuta la testata AFD e ho indovinato pur essendo molto scarso come chitarrista :-) tengo a precisare che l' ho data via solo perché mi hanno fatto un' offerta non rifiutabile :-) ora in casa ho una jcm 800 da 1 Watt... bellissima !!! ciao e grazie x i vostri video.
Really well played guys , amp 1 but burg sounds good
Kemper sounds already eq´d sounds treated, AFD sounds rawer. Both great but I prefer the Kemper sound as is already studio quality.
stock JCM800 + Dunlop QZone = Slash's #34 UYI tone
Amp 1 sounded clearer/more 'open' than Amp 2 in this clip ...
What mode/settings was the AFD on? Did it have a rather compressed sound? Or perhpas it was the mic'ing ... ?
My choice or Slash GnR sounds would be a Jube or 2203, properly mic'ed ... :)
I haven't been impressed with recorded AFD tones that I've heard ... :/
kemper seemed pretty darn good, in this clip anyway ...
Si,indovinato,grazie al fatto che i distorti dell'ampli 2 si sentono che sono più corposi,più presenti, i puliti non mi hanno aiutato.
In my opinion if you have the eqs with such a difference I don't see the point in compare them. If they were more similar sounding I would take a guess. How did you do this comparison? Same cab?
So to make this make sense..Did you make the profile you tested with the Amp tested against? No 2 amps will sound the same especially variables like speakers etc.
Clearly the Marshall sounds better when cranked but both sounded good. Where the Kemper wins out so heavily is it's conistency and versitility and above all the fact that you can just plug it straight into your DAW or front of house and it sounds the same every time. There is reason bands like Metallica and countless others use AxeFx live now. They leave the $200k amp collection back in the studio.
1234gregor marshall may well sound better cranked, but this test says little about kemper. Apparently the amp set up wasn't profiled; therefore so it's to he expected that there will be bigger differences than usual.
Did you profile your own AFD and compare like for like or were you using the AFD profile that comes with the Kemper?
Did you run the Kemper through a cabinet and mic it or was it a full rig including Cabinet and Mic profiles?
I actually thought they both sounded very similar but Amp 1 was better for both clean and dirty sounds.
Grandissima trovata, bella idea!!! Comunque il Kemper è figo ma il valvolare è imbattibile secondo me. Anche nei puliti mi è piaciuto di più, è vero quello che avete detto, però boh, gusto mio, preferisco il suono meno nitido del valvolare sul pulito però più "vero" diciamo, con il kemper si sente molto, infatti, che è digitale, nonostante sia comunque figo
Devo dire che li ho azzeccati tutti e due.. ma devo dire che dal duello di Federico, il suono del Kemper mi piace di più... io sono un tipo che per natura preferisco l analogico... intanto perö stò costruendo con delle scatole di tabacco ampli di potenza classe D.. ov. davanti attacchi pedalini di ogni tipo, mentre dietro va collegata una qualsiasi cassa tra 4- 16 ohm. ....materiale ca. 10 euro.. potenza di uscita: 123 db
Comanda pezzi: Aliexpress...
Nice! But they sound completely different.... Did you used like an generic profile from an AFD amp ? Or this is the profile from your amp at the same settings? Cannot tell this a "clone" at all... if it is, Kemper just cannot clone at all a AFD...
First try with Amp 1 and already knew Marshall was the second amp
Good video! :)
It all depends on how and where you got the AF100 profile.... it doesn't sound the same then the kemper isn't tuned correctly...
Non hai specificato come hai registrato l'ampli. Il kemper era più simile al suono del disco nei distorti, ma in ogni caso centrava poco. La vera differenza sembra una equalizzazione diversa dei due più che altro. Comunque a ognuno il suo: Kemper se vuoi praticità in studio, ampli veri se vuoi viverlo il suono che sia dal vivo o nella sala prove.
Hai ragione, li ho registrati entrambi con un mic (di cui ora non ricordo proprio il nome) tramite una 4x12 1960 lead
How about sharing the Kemper rig??
In the begining i was right, in midle when distortion comes i was little suspicious and when he said his opinion I was 100% right
amp 1 - kemper
amp 2 - marshal afd 100
I honestly liked amp 2 better and I was hoping like hell it wasn't the kemper. Thank god it wasn't. I saw a video on andertons channel and had a hard time telling the difference. In this video I feel like it's more "real word" and I am so thankful that all the money I have spent on tube amps wasn't wasted. Great video.
Jason White apparently they didn't profile the amp tone as in the video, but used some profile of an afd someome else shot... (Or maybe they shot it, but of a different afd rig, who knows..?). Point is Kemper could well have gotten closer to the amp tone here had they profiled the tone as it was set up. Not much of a conclusion about kemper can be drawn from the above methodology.
I did !!
people tend to forget about "YOUR" investment. buy a new kemper sell it for a loss buy a great amp and if you have to sell it you usually get your investment back. Plus tube amps rule. always have , always will. I have a Diaz CD-100 and a Warren Haynes Special. If I ever sold them I would get ALOT more than I paid for them.
Something is wrong... they sound so different the profile can't possibly being the same setup.
When I profile my own, the difference is 1% which is mostly remedied by some tweaking, at least for close mic'd.
Here, you have like a 20-25% difference.
This has to be user error.
The AFD was a hugely disappointing amp. Slash doesn't even use it anymore. He went back to his trusted Silver Jubilees and has been using the 2555x reissue.
Weird. I actually preferred the Marshall in Test 1, but the Kemper in Test 2.
none of them since slash uses a 2550
Amp 2 The AFD for sure ,good test ‼️🎸🇨🇮
WHo SAY AFD IS DISAPOINTING NOW ! haha got it its killer ! very well done bro !
A mio parere personale trovo che il Kemper suoni più definito più brillante, il Marshall è più chiuso/ovattato a livello di suono (forse per farlo suonare come si deve bisognerebbe spingere le valvole molto di più..).. quindi in questo caso per me il suono del Kemper è meglio dell'originale e lo dice uno che possiede solo ampli a valvole.
Ciao Danilo,,io l ho indovinato,ma ti confesso che x 4 anni ho usato il Kemper
Ok I say in test one it's AFD as amp one and the kemper is amp 2 and amp two sounds the best
is the AFD 100 jsut a modded JCM800?
No. It is rubbish compared to a real 2203.
turn down definition in the kempers amp menu and increase compression to 2 and bias then it should fit a bit better ...
Where can I get the kemper profile you used in this video?
Did you profile the amp yourselves?
Indovinato senza ombra di dubbio, però anche il Kemper ha un suo perchè.
Interessante il fatto che su paradise city ho preferito i distorti del kemper, mentre su sweet child era abbastanza chiaro quale fosse il Marshall
Ho sentito dire che l'introduzione di paradise city è stata registrata con un jc-40 della roland con il chorus giá insertito sull'amp.
Se ne trovi uno fammelo sentire ;)
Oh ma quanto è bello federico😍😍
ronh andrea una meraviglia 😂
Avan Jogia?
No, he's victoria justice
Ho indovinato due grandissimi suoni comunque
avrei detto il contrario...infatti mi piaceva di più il kemper nei disotrti e nei puliti anche se la differenza è minima. Ho notato che l'ampli fisico aveva le alte più acide (soprattutto nel test 2). Grazie per il video ben fatto..ottimo lavoro complimenti ragazzi
Si, avevo indovinato
I actually preferred the Kemper
AFD sounds better
Where can I get this profile for my Kemper?
+Albert Solano you can download it from the rig manager library
Amp1 - Poor clean/cool dist very close to Slash sound.
Amp2 - amazing clean/muddy distorted sound.
Almost sure the second is Marshall.
Also first one sounds more compressed and second one is more full sounding. But I still prefer first one.
paradise city arpeggio on neck pickup 🤦♂️
Ye the afd clearly won. More output. Clear and way more bite. Just a lot better.