Whether we bring someone like Jorginho or someone like Onana, Rice has to improve his passing qualities as a 6. The debate on whether Rice is better as a 6 or 8 just feels to me like he is only better as a 8 because he needs help progressing the ball, not because he has the qualities of an advanced midfielder. The problematic stat for Rice when it comes to passing: Through Balls: 0.04 (14% amongst midfielders) Passes into penalty area: 0.68 (68%) Jorginho: Through Balls: 0.37 (88%) Passes into penalty area: 1.92 (97%) Partey: Through Balls: 0.34 (85%) Passes into penalty area: 1.70 (93%) Zinchenko: Through Balls: 0.54 (99% amongst fullbacks) Passes into penalty area: 2.39 (99%) Through balls are really important because those are the passes that actually break the lines, a diagonal passes from Rice to Saka where Saka dribbles past 2 players counts as a progressive pass, how much team progression do you attribute to that pass? People were wondering why Zinchenko was playing so much eventhough he was such a defensive liability, that's why, because he supplements Rice shortcomings. Rice will improve, he improves as a player every year.
You can get better at it, but I don't think it's a thing you simply develop at an elite level. England also struggle to progress ball when Rice plays at 6. That's why we need a 6. Zeni stats are out of this world. It makes me laugh when people say he gives the ball away too much. They have no clue he's attempting 50 line breaking passes in a game, and giving a ball away once or twice is a crazy level of accuracy.
@@sandboxplayerz667 We will see, given Rice’s position in England I do feel like that is precisely the area he wants to improve at. But Maino’s rise sure does help him a bit. And yeah, Zinchenko progressing the ball is one of one from the fullback position. He is unbelievable.
Yes Rice can improve but his contribution has been over indexed by many this season and his contribution to our limitations in attack underestimated. He has been good bit also poir in biggest games. Idehe was our best player is a falsehood. Really hoping he develops into a world class 6 but well iff it yet
This is Enron. Everyone is denying it and fighting it. As a CPA related party round tripping transactions are illegal. There is a reason that kse wanted to be awl sustaining and arsene Wenger paid of the interest on debt appropriately and had to sell their best players each year
One thing on Pep. Elliot with his two ideas commentary around appreciating the football of Man City but despising the money at Man City isn't necessarily wrong. Yet for me, I put on my coach lens knowing one thing that almost no one ever observes. Pep has never taken on a project. He only accepts jobs at Mega Clubs. Barca, Bayern, Man City. Yes, Man City was winning before Pep joined. I wonder what Pep would do with Aston Villa; he and Emery could duke it out. I kid, but not really; that is just an example but usually in business the entrepreneur is a different guy than the next person who brings a stable company to the next level of profit and in coaching football I think it is the same having done both: the manager who builds a club up is a different guy than the manager who take mega clubs to the next level. Pep and Klopp are different guys. I personally think Klopp is every bit on Pep's level even though people over use Pep being "the best manager in history." Just my opinion.
I am confused. Businesses in the US has to follow a rules called transfer pricing which is exactly what the premier league is requiring. Without that mechanism how can the league be fair.
I dont think Newcastle & the Saudis have got involved because they have the World Cup, their own league, boxing, golf and other stuff to concentrate on. Lets be honest they were 'lucky' to get accepted into the league & probably dont want to rock the boat too soon. They agreed to the new rule which was brought in because of them. (Man City abstained) Who knows as new owners they may have had to sign a charter as new owners stating no legal action may be taken against the league?
Significance: Seismic? Correct. If Premier League lose this legal battle and City are not relegated after being found guilty the very integrity of the game is lost. That is not an overstatement I do not think. Shame on Man City for taking this even further (racism), what a disgrace. Fans who support that as well are nonsense for me, I understand the import of supporting the badge, but this is simple ethics for me; I for one am not interested in supporting cheats for anything in my daily life. Arsenal were done by Chelski in the early 2000's when Abromivich swooped in and Premier League did NOTHING. Arsenal have been done again by the oil government run club Manchester City. I think a lot of Arsenal fans have a special hatred for these two clubs specifically and something needs to be done or the game is fixed and no one wants to believe that.
I can’t square how hard someone like Paqueta is going to be punished (a life ban for 4 comparatively non consequential yellows) for undermining the integrity of the game with Man City’s continued existence.
On the one-off occasion we're up against them in Europe, turn up with a well executed game-plan and take our chances? Other than that, we play in a separate league on a weekly basis, just in case you'd missed that.
Put Real in PL, and I don't think they win it. Cups are strange thing. Real have been very ordinary in CL for the last 5 or 6 years. Call it luck, weight on history on their side, but they aren't even close to unbeatable team.
It's one the most irritating things about modern discourse. Like who does he imagine would be offended if he didn't throw that statement into the discussion? Just allow the conversation to flow ffs
Thank god for Arsenal Podcasts post season
Whether we bring someone like Jorginho or someone like Onana, Rice has to improve his passing qualities as a 6. The debate on whether Rice is better as a 6 or 8 just feels to me like he is only better as a 8 because he needs help progressing the ball, not because he has the qualities of an advanced midfielder.
The problematic stat for Rice when it comes to passing:
Through Balls: 0.04 (14% amongst midfielders)
Passes into penalty area: 0.68 (68%)
Jorginho:
Through Balls: 0.37 (88%)
Passes into penalty area: 1.92 (97%)
Partey:
Through Balls: 0.34 (85%)
Passes into penalty area: 1.70 (93%)
Zinchenko:
Through Balls: 0.54 (99% amongst fullbacks)
Passes into penalty area: 2.39 (99%)
Through balls are really important because those are the passes that actually break the lines, a diagonal passes from Rice to Saka where Saka dribbles past 2 players counts as a progressive pass, how much team progression do you attribute to that pass? People were wondering why Zinchenko was playing so much eventhough he was such a defensive liability, that's why, because he supplements Rice shortcomings. Rice will improve, he improves as a player every year.
You can get better at it, but I don't think it's a thing you simply develop at an elite level. England also struggle to progress ball when Rice plays at 6. That's why we need a 6.
Zeni stats are out of this world. It makes me laugh when people say he gives the ball away too much. They have no clue he's attempting 50 line breaking passes in a game, and giving a ball away once or twice is a crazy level of accuracy.
@@sandboxplayerz667 We will see, given Rice’s position in England I do feel like that is precisely the area he wants to improve at. But Maino’s rise sure does help him a bit.
And yeah, Zinchenko progressing the ball is one of one from the fullback position. He is unbelievable.
Yes Rice can improve but his contribution has been over indexed by many this season and his contribution to our limitations in attack underestimated. He has been good bit also poir in biggest games. Idehe was our best player is a falsehood. Really hoping he develops into a world class 6 but well iff it yet
The best pod I have seen for a very very long time! Brilliant
Will be attending my first Arsenal match in LA this summer (traveling from Texas) hope to see y’all while I’m there. Keep us posted on the event 😁
Manchester City using Women and Children as a human shield just tells you exactly who they are
This is Enron. Everyone is denying it and fighting it. As a CPA related party round tripping transactions are illegal. There is a reason that kse wanted to be awl sustaining and arsene Wenger paid of the interest on debt appropriately and had to sell their best players each year
Just realised that Tim starts every speech with "Yeah....."
Great analysis....
One thing on Pep. Elliot with his two ideas commentary around appreciating the football of Man City but despising the money at Man City isn't necessarily wrong. Yet for me, I put on my coach lens knowing one thing that almost no one ever observes. Pep has never taken on a project. He only accepts jobs at Mega Clubs. Barca, Bayern, Man City. Yes, Man City was winning before Pep joined. I wonder what Pep would do with Aston Villa; he and Emery could duke it out. I kid, but not really; that is just an example but usually in business the entrepreneur is a different guy than the next person who brings a stable company to the next level of profit and in coaching football I think it is the same having done both: the manager who builds a club up is a different guy than the manager who take mega clubs to the next level. Pep and Klopp are different guys. I personally think Klopp is every bit on Pep's level even though people over use Pep being "the best manager in history." Just my opinion.
5 star show as always
THX
I am confused. Businesses in the US has to follow a rules called transfer pricing which is exactly what the premier league is requiring. Without that mechanism how can the league be fair.
Apart from Partey and Jorginho , Yousuf Fofana seems to play the most consistent long forward passes .
Owners of Newcastle and City not necessarily bezzie mates.
I dont think Newcastle & the Saudis have got involved because they have the World Cup, their own league, boxing, golf and other stuff to concentrate on. Lets be honest they were 'lucky' to get accepted into the league & probably dont want to rock the boat too soon. They agreed to the new rule which was brought in because of them. (Man City abstained) Who knows as new owners they may have had to sign a charter as new owners stating no legal action may be taken against the league?
Significance: Seismic? Correct. If Premier League lose this legal battle and City are not relegated after being found guilty the very integrity of the game is lost. That is not an overstatement I do not think. Shame on Man City for taking this even further (racism), what a disgrace. Fans who support that as well are nonsense for me, I understand the import of supporting the badge, but this is simple ethics for me; I for one am not interested in supporting cheats for anything in my daily life. Arsenal were done by Chelski in the early 2000's when Abromivich swooped in and Premier League did NOTHING. Arsenal have been done again by the oil government run club Manchester City. I think a lot of Arsenal fans have a special hatred for these two clubs specifically and something needs to be done or the game is fixed and no one wants to believe that.
I can’t square how hard someone like Paqueta is going to be punished (a life ban for 4 comparatively non consequential yellows) for undermining the integrity of the game with Man City’s continued existence.
There are Old and New City Fans most of the Old Fans are grounded the New ones are Soooo Up Themselves ,and feel they can do Noooo Wrong.
Legitimately, are there any City fans with podcasts or RUclips channels that you would recommend?
If they don’t get their way, they’re willing to blow up the whole thing.
Everton having a pseudo-billionaire arc is fuckinggggg hilarious
I don’t believe the discrimination claim is about race I think they are saying that relate party transactions are being discriminated against
How are elite English clubs supposed to compete with Real?
By scoring penalties and defending better i guess
Real Madrid themselves have their origins as a the state backed club of Franco's Spain.
On the one-off occasion we're up against them in Europe, turn up with a well executed game-plan and take our chances? Other than that, we play in a separate league on a weekly basis, just in case you'd missed that.
@@seanjohansen8401 Indeed, and we have actually done that.
Put Real in PL, and I don't think they win it. Cups are strange thing. Real have been very ordinary in CL for the last 5 or 6 years.
Call it luck, weight on history on their side, but they aren't even close to unbeatable team.
I wonder if Elliot the same about environmentalists breaking new oppressive anti protest laws having to do the time?
It was tedious.
Rules are discriminatory tbh. Vested interests
“He says being a white westerner male”
Oh please not that shit on a great podcast. Please.
It's one the most irritating things about modern discourse. Like who does he imagine would be offended if he didn't throw that statement into the discussion? Just allow the conversation to flow ffs
It just sounds like an American politics podcast at this point, haha. Replace "City" with "Trump," and it's the same nonsense 😂