ROG ALLY X VS Steam Deck
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Steam deck oled 1tb is $650 .. Ally x is $800 I wouldn’t call that double the price
I think they were talking about base prices because the steam deck technically still starts at 399. Just not 1TB and OLED.
And deck is even more expensive than the ally in other countries due to it not being available in stores. Shipment fee + tax and yes no warranty as well it because it is imported.
UK: SD OLED starts at £450, ALLY X £800. Almost double the price.
@@robnavarro9405 he specifically. Compares the oled, not the base steam deck
They're completely ripping you guys off. £800 is literally over $1K... @128KB and it's $800 here as well. Asus really thought they were being sneaky.. I'm an american and I like to talk smack to british people. But I actually feel bad for you on that one. That's just disrespectful from asus.
2:00 The Ally X has the exact same APU as the Ally and several competitors. It is impossible for it to be head and shoulders above its competitors in performance. In features, maybe, but not performance. We're also on the verge of the Zen 5 Strix / Ryzen AI 9 series releasing. Call the Ally X what it is: an interim device meant to solve the Ally's high RMA rate and clear out remaining stock of Z1 Extreme APUs before releasing the Ally 2.
Your statement is incorrect. Asus Nebula panels are OLED and VRR. Asus stated the only reason they didn’t use them is because they have 2.5x the power draw as the current panel due to the OLED/VRR combo.
So torn on the two, I like the ease of use of the steam deck, and will mostly be playing geforce now and steam link, as I like to have longer battery and max settings also like to emulate, but the lower resolution is just putting me off
I just preordered my ally X …. I use my white ally for gaming in handheld mode and I code and program on it while docked so the more ram will be greatly appreciated
Referring to the 7" LCD version. Seems fair as far as entry. The X is 7" and LCD. $840 after tax is pricey. I'll troll for a sale.
Getting this for Call of Duty. It doesn't make sense dual-booting my Deck. I have too much going on with it right now lol.
If I find Steam Deck slightly big, will ROG Ally X be a good alternative?
Yes the ALLY X is smaller and easier to grip
There's a lot to consider, first the difference in size isn't big. Also Ally X is slightly heavier, wayyy bulkier on depth. Ergonomics of the deck are also much more comfortable for long sessions to many but that's subjective so it could be the opposite for you. What good is a slightly smaller thing if it doesn't feel as good in your hand. Anyway given that the size difference isn't much and there are multiple other factors to weight in it'd be really a poor answer to just answer "yes" to this one.
Gotta agree with the video tho that only for FPS the sticks placement on the ally feels more precise.
@@flathead950you haven't even holded the rog ally x. Lol what, and the ally x is the saame weight as the lcd steam deck.
@@AnotherAspect-hg9mp Stupid reply, neither have you. I was very nuanced in my reply stating it's subjective and even stated ally could be a better fit for him.
@@flathead950 The Ally is a lot smaller then the Deck. When I first bought my LCD Deck I just couldn't believe how large it was. The Ally size feels just right and actually I would call it a nicely sized handheld. I am glad they didn't make a bigger screen as I really like it's more compact size than the very large handheld which is the deck.
It's also almost $1k which puts many consumers out
I have a PS5 and a PC, i play mostly RPG's and Action/Adventure games, i have a lot of games in the steam library. Could be a good strategy to buy a steam deck oled for most games and just remote play the big AAA games from PS5? The Rog Ally is very expensive and having a PS5 i think that the Steam deck will fill that "relax couch" void. Cheers
No it won’t. Ally is the ultimate device and worth the price
You absolutely correct if you want to play indie games and the games you already have on ya ps5. Steam deck is a handheld ps5 because not that many steam games are supported except for the one that are on consoles but you can just stream play ps5 games on ya phone so why waste money for another ps5….
I love my SD oled for its battery life and ease of use when playing on Steam, but the resolution on oled is kinda bad, text doesn't look sharp for my 40+ years old eyes. I have another handheld, the GPD win mini 2024 that has the same lcd screen as the ROG Ally, while it has smaller lcd screen, but the 1080p display delivers a crisp text and much easier to read.
I have a PS5, which I use to play PS4 and PS5 titles, I also have an old clunker PC which is great for 15-20 year old games, but lacks the oomph. I’m looking at the ROG Ally X to replace that PC completely. I might even invest in Game Pass if it suits me. (I’ll probably also get the PlayStation remote play too tbh, as I wouldn’t want a PlayStation Portal as well) uhh, and uhhh …switch emulation maybe…
I’m happy with my steam deck oled le.. but if the reviews are really good I’ll think about picking up the new ally
Bruh that's a waste of money, just wait a few years for battery life to really improve.
I don't get the hype, it's like you're rediscovering the moon all over again... It's pretty much the exact same ally performance wise.
It's not a machine that's gonna run your latest AAA at good settings at 1080p at all. You can expect 900p medium/high settings on the best optimized AAAs at around 40 fps.
Good point is ASUS software has been good if not on par with steam deck's for a while now. However the screen is still very small for AAA gaming...
The VRR thing is not making miracles when your games stuttering, its no magic.
Personally after buying the deck oled and ally i'm now only using the deck to stream games from my gaming rig. Larger screen, max graphics, HDR, fluid 60 FPS and all. It feels right for AAAs for me. When i'm on the road I got an entire backlog of smaller games that run perfectly fine on it. I don't feel like those consoles shine for AAA gaming at all on their own right now.
It all depends on your will to compromize I guess. Also at this very high price isn't it more reasonable to just wait for ally 2 with actual better performance next year?
They don't have the original Ally, which is why they are so excited. I felt the same way when I got my Ally; you can tell they're not faking it by the sound of their voice. It's been six months, and I'm still mesmerized by how good the screen is on my Ally. I play all my games in 1080p my games in gamepass, epic, and steam which the deck cannot do. Besides, why would anyone buy a handheld pc if they have a more powerful PC or laptop? I have a gaming laptop from 2017 that can no longer handle modern games. That's why I boughy my ally and why I'm so impressed with my Ally; it's a smaller device that outperforms my older laptop. Also that 24gb faster ram which is 7500MHz speed so games should run smoother than ever also a factor since it is a shared ram you don't need to allocate their pool of ram 8gb for GPU and 16gb for system. Some games requires higher VRAM some require higher ram than the GPU with 24gb is just enough for modern AAA games today and upcomming games.
@@nathanjuan6042 It's understandable if they didn't own the ally before.
It is absolutely not true however that ally plays 1080p AAAs well. If you want 1080p it's just gonna be a miserable experience at best on demanding game. There 900p is where it's at with medium/high graphics.
The thing was dying on me trying to play witcher 3 at high at 900p 40 FPS and it's not a new release by any means.
Elden ring at 1080p 40+ fps with high graphics is not happening either, not the most demanding AAA either.
When I got my ally my experience was "ok this thing runs AAAs... with lots of compromises."
Your question "why would anyone buy handhelds if they have a better pc " answers itself... Pcs are not handhelds, I rarely bring my gaming rig in my bed.
@@flathead950 I play all my games in 1080p, On my gamepass Hi-fi Rush, Forza Horizon 5, Horizon Motor sport, Persona 3 reload, Gotham Knights and on my Epic Kingdom Hearts 3, Fortnite, Genshin on my Steam GTA 5, FF15, Witcher 3, Horizon Dawn, FF7 Remake, , Forspoken, Tekken 8, Ratchet and Clank rift Apart, Persona Strikers. without any problem or issues. Some games need more than 4gb of GPU so you do need to change your VRAM to 6gb or 8gb if your gonna play Rift apart because the default VRam on ally is 4gb but you can change that in the settings depends on what games you play. Also turn on VRR so that if a game fluctuates under 60fps VRR will kick in to eliminate issues like screen tearing and stuttering, providing a smoother gaming experience. There is also AMD Fluid Motion.
@@nathanjuan6042 Again your statement is very vague, "playing at 1080p" with no details on the compromises you make to achieve this, at what FPS, what graphical settings etc on the most demanding titles isn't saying much at the end of the day.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and confirmation bias and the way they perceive reality, i'll just redirect people to pretty much every benchmark online regarding AAA titles on rog ally to backup my claims.
No doubt your Ally behaves different than the rest of us, let's leave it at that.
@@flathead950 yeah nathan got that typical ignorant response. He genuinely doesnt know he is getting like 20fps and thinks everything is running good. I plan to get a Steam deck. Its good to hear that the streaming works as i would use my PC as well for any crazy demanding game. but i also plan to use the deck for older games ive never played and emulation.
Steam deck is the most intuitive handheld and the oled is possible the 2nd best oled I’ve seen after the new m4 iPad Pro , but the ally and ally x can play all the game your steam deck can plus more and it’s actually a legitimate pc . Also the ally isn’t that much more money then the steam deck
I bought the deck oled after having ally and go . For gaming and ease of use steam deck oled is just better and balanced . But if i will ever have to use a windows handheld then that will be legion go , the screen is the killer .
The only device that is better than the Steam Deck is the Steam Deck 2.
If only it was cheaper
Super excited for the ROG Ally X. I might be insane preordered it for music production. I missed out on the original Ally but more RAM, more space and more battery? I seem to have stumbled upon the ROG Ally X at the perfect time. I have an Odin 2, a PS4 and a Switch but my laptops are too old to run Steam games well. I'm getting this ROG Ally X to use FL Studio on mobilly and also play some games I can't play anywhere else like "Fading Afternoon" or "Palworld" with my friends or the new Sonic and Dragon Ball games when they come out. I was gonna get a dock and turn this thing into my new lortable desktop. I already have a screen and keyboard/mouse. I'm super excited to cook up some tracks on here and also play a few games too.
My friends are saying I'm crazy for buying this instead of a laptop or a desktop. But I wanted something more portable & it seems to be able to do everything I want it to do. Plus I'm not a super huge gamer so I won't be playing a lot of FPS games or any od the huge flagship titles. Maybe some anime games as they release and some light emulation that I can't do on my Odin 2. I hope I don't regret my purchase 😭
All the laptops I was looking at were a little out of my pricerange and all had drawbacks that scared me from pulling the trigger on a purchase. I almost copped the Lenovo Legion GO for the bigger screen but I don't like the concept of joy cons. The console seems a little shakier and more fragile. I feel like the Ally X will be a little more durable.
I also thought about copping a Steam Deck but I heard Windows programs like FLSTUDIO would run better on the Ally. I need something I csn have a smooth production experience on
I love seeing people with alternative uses! It is just a PC at the end of the day so will likely suit your needs there!
You could find more bang for your buck getting a gaming laptop. Trying to use this as a primary music production device when it’s made for gaming is insane.
Already pre-ordered and put my old one up for sale
LMAO
I have the Ally and it is already better than Deck, Oled is awesome but vrr 1080p and 16:9 aspect ratio are more important in gaming, also way better performance, smaller and more portable, and even with it's limitation, Windows is much better than Steam OS which with Linux is not compatible with a lot of games, store and anti cheat. Only bad thing on Ally right now is battery life, and by double it they fixed that, also more and faster ram will give a 10% performance boost. But remember, new mobile hardware release every year, AMD already has Stirx Point APU coming with 35% better performance than the Ally Z1e, so next year we will already see Ally 2 and other handheld with much more performance, of course the Z1e will still be fine, but if you want the best in handheld especially to play AAA another upgrade will be required in 2025
This is the right comment, that's why I feel its better to have a console like optimised handheld like the oled for far cheaper or even the original ally till these new chips are used
Main thing about the new chips will also be efficiency
I don't even think asus is competing with deck because deck can't already keep up I would say Asus is competing with Legion Go, MSI claw and Ayaneo, heck even OneXplayer and GDP win would be a better comparison since they are much better device than the deck.
@@nathanjuan6042 power isn't everything, just look at the switch
@@TJ-cs6vu Switch can play all switch games. Can deck play all PC games? It is a PC right? You buy PS5 to play all PS5 games. Can deck play all Steam Games? Buying a handhled PC to all PC games in any platform because it is a PC is great. I'm not saying deck is bad tho it just that it has so many limitations including one of the most important thing the screen 800p on a handheld? Your looking at the screen all the time when playing.
The deck is way better in terms of optimization, a lot of those games you’re running are set to the high TDPS and turbo mode. The steam deck is running most of those same games at 15 w TDP or less in some cases. Which makes it more battery efficient , especially on the OLED. Yeah, it runs windows so you have access to everything, but it’s a pc first and a handheld second still because of that. I do think you guys emphasize too much on the power aspects of the ROG ally X vs the overall usage. The steam deck is still a powerful device, not just a “simple” device.
In the end when it comes to PC games. It's always the two groups, specs vs real use. To me personally I wanted a PC that's handheld to play games, not a handheld that plays PC games.
@@Afeeq1011 Yes, as a PC gamer, I want a handheld PC that can handle all PC games. If you only need a handheld with a better battery, then why not buy a Switch or a PS Vita, which have better batteries? Why not just play on a smartphone instead? We buy a handheld PC to play all PC games, not limited games or those locked to one platform. If you buy a PS5, you expect it to play all PS5 games. Similarly, when buying a handheld PC, you should expect it to play all PC games.
@@nathanjuan6042think there are people who wants to play steam games with good battery life too mate, not all people play those AAA graphic intensive game
Exactly
The steamdeck is horrible. When I had the lcd model I couldn’t believe how many flaws it had. Starting from the cheap cardboard packaging. The tinkering and Linux is a complete deal breaker. Having to always look at verified or not is dumb as hell. ASUS knocked it out the park on the first try. Valve is on its second and still way behind.
A reliable suspend and resume is the Steam Deck's killer feature. Absolutely essential for portable play where you only have a few minutes here and there to squeeze in some gameplay. Windows sleep/hibernate is janky, unreliable, and slow by comparison.
This is exactly why I prefer the steam deck. Had an ally and I returned it after a couple of weeks. Glad I got the steam deck.
Once I get the rog ally x, it's getting bazzite immediately because of this feature 😂
Have ypu tried it yourself tho ? Or just repeating what youve heard someone say. Because my experience with hibernate on ally is that it's surprisingly reliable. Rarely have i had a game crash on me, if at all.
Fact that you're comparing sleep and hibernate as if they're the same thing is very telling.
One doesn't work and is janky asf, the other again is surprisingly reliable.
I was never one for suspend/resume, but I can definitely see the allure to a lot of people. It's definitely nice when I'm like at an airport and trasnitioning from the waiting lobby to an airplane
@epicgamerzfail4575 it's honestly a must for portable gaming. I do uber on the side, so between rides, I can hop back on and off during rides
I'll admit I do keep looking at the ASUS ROG Ally X and Legion Go for that matter BUT always come back to the same realisation as to WHY I'd never get either - Windows 🤢🤮Which is why for me, my Steam Deck OLED will always win 🏆 🎉
The Ally is very easy to use. Steam automatically loads when I boot, I select the wattage I want with a press, then play a game.
Kids in elementary school can use Windows. So many weird SD fans that rage anytime a windows handheld is praised lmao.
Linux is basically the steamdecks main problem. Complete deal breaker. Windows is far far ahead of Linux
I respect your opinion, I have both the OG Ally and the OLED Deck and so far?
OLED Deck is great, but I had one problem: I can’t play Fortnite besides using Remote Play or Cloud Gaming which really isn’t ideal. Sweeney’s terrible excuses adds up as well. (Yes, I like the game, but I don’t like the company behind it)
@@graveyarddead753 🧢
@@firstclaims30 You sure know a lot about linux and computers to make such broad statements.
Ally x will drop in price quick that’s when I will get it 👍🏼
64 gb SD refurb is 250$ in Canada compared to 800-1000 for the other handhelds. So at this point, I'd recommend either that or wait for 2nd gen of handhelds with the much better cpus.
'He's a handheld lover...'
Gotta be a better way to say that.
🤣🤣 I’m sticking with it, just for the comedy 🤣
In Norway the Ally X cost the same as the steam deck Oled. About 1000 USD. I really want the Oled screen, and I have a 4090 PC. Is it a good option to go for the steam deck and rely on streaming from PC to steam deck for the heavy titles?
oh my god!!! Now this makes it a more difficult choice!! If you ask me (Aj) I'd lean more toward the Steam Deck, that OLED screen... it's beautiful.
I'd oppose that (Andy) if the ALLY X is the same price I'd go for that, everywhere else the X is double the price of the OLED and much more capable! With a VRR 120hz screen!
@@128KB Thanks for your input, guys! 👍
Yes, i do this all the time using moonlight
Guys Steam Deck OLED or Rog Ally Z1 Extreme ? help me out people cheers.
Deck oled. The ally has horrible battery, gpu bottlenecks cpu, and fps fluctuations are too much. Ally x will have these problems too. I'm selling my ally on ebay right now
But can it play Alan Wake 2
I've never heared anyone say:
Do you get a lot of screen tearing with the steam deck while you play? Any game really, preferably high end one
Crazy. Most people lock their frame rates that’s why. But if you unlock it and it’s going between 30-60fps then you’ll see lots of screen tearing and it’s actually annoying. Now if you use vsync then you won’t experience any problems
Better than the latest One X Player i terms of performance? I doubt it
You have very small hands if you have problems with your thumb reaching! And if you like the Asus is screwing you guys over the Ally breaking and Asus charge you and it wasn't your fault Asus made crap!
Deadpool hands
@@128KB
I'd rather have the weaker device with the Valve support since Asus is a garbage company now.
just suscribed, awesome video.
No handheld in my hands right now, but as an xbox user, the rog ally X, is exactly what I want for my gamepass experience, and also being able to play everything on Steam, even games that the steam deck can't run is already a inmense win.
the only thing that keeps the steam deck as a valid alternative is the fact that it is such a casual experience, with games installation, games verified, and suspense/hibernation mode that actually works with no tinkering.
other than that, as an experienced windows user, and geek as I am, i would take the rog ally X everyday of the week.
thanks so much for subbing! The Ally really is the ultimate game pass machine.
Wait a couple months. Grab Ally X at a discount.
ngl I love my deck OLED and hate windows on handhelds, but I’m so tempted to get an Ally eventually for better performance and the anti cheat games like COD. I think I’ll hold out for the Ally 2 with even better performance and hopefully OLED
I will wait for a SteamDeck 2.
@@mreverybody1150you will be waiting 3 years
I think both the Ally X and the Steam Deck offer phenomenal bang for your buck! Depending on your needs and taste each offers excellent features and value at a fair price.
Nailed it!
Couldn't care less about Oled. All bout pixel density for me and refresh rate
I think I will wait 2-3 year more until a handheld can GTA 6 at least 60fps at mid to high settings… long way to go I guess
GTA 6 will probably release on PS6 which is next Gen console probably around 2026 and we probably have a more powerful handheld a 2nd or 3rd Gen processor for handheld that can play GTA 6. Handheld is booming and I am exited for the future of handheld you'll never know maybe a Xbox handheld or Plastation handheld will release that time as well or maybe NVDIA or Qualcom would enter the handheld market as well it can be razer, ailienware or acer. The more options the better.
The Ally X will easily do that. Unless Rockstar cannot optimize their games anymore.
@@nathanjuan6042nahh, GTA 6 on next gen consoles will release in 2028(2028 if PS6 release 2027, new Xbox 2026 rumors release) and handhaldes future in ARM, with ARM amd better batteries( saw news abuot new OnePlus Ace 3 Pro - it have 6000mAh battery with size of 5000mAh battery and have fast charge) we get more power and longer battery time, can be AMD ARM cpus in SD2 for example
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I mean red dead is not optimized well and they are the same devs no?
@@nathanjuan6042they literally said it drops next year 💀
There are too many caveats with the Steam Deck in my opinion. Yes, Windows has some jank in handheld form but I think it is widely overblown. I love what Valve has done with SteamOS but then you can't play multiplayer games or games like Destiny 2 and on top of that the Steam Deck just does not have the umph to run a lot of newer games. For me, the fact that I can natively install any launcher I want and I don't have to worry about compatibility issues on top of having much more power for games makes the Ally a much better purchase for me.
Can i Download steam with the rog x and play my steam Games just as i can Do on my steam Deck?
Asus blows, but I like how the x sounds and looks. Good improvements, but they're gonna do this every year like laptops so meh, it'll never touch Steam's optimization. If the batteyr life still sucks it's pointless though.
Don't speak on VRR. You know nothing about it.
I don't even have to watch this video, with double the battery life plus the rapid updates Windows games and Windows itself have been receiving, with things like improved standby and identical performance at 15 watts, well, this is going to be a crushing defeat for the Steam Deck. The Steam Deck can't do 1 single thing better than the ROG Ally X. Running Steam in 'big picture' mode gives the full Steam experience too! Steam was designed for Windows, that's where Valve makes its money, selling games to Windows gamers.
I still gave it a thumbs up!
Identical performance at 15 watts isn’t a good thing when the ROG ALLY is supposed to be more powerful. It’s less efficient at lower watts.
@@DSH69444 That's a biased way to look a it. The Steam Deck claims to be compromised to only run less demanding games more battery life , but the ROG Ally can do the same exact thing, plus more. The ROG Ally is more powerful, and just as efficient as the Steam Deck at 15W, sorry man.
Just sold my deck today because i finished my backlog. Still love it but dont have games to play for it.
And for new games it just is too weak.
Wont buy the ally.
Maybe steam deck 2 or ally 2.
I want a steamdeck but lack of tethering support makes me think a windows handheld might be better for me. Seriously tempted to get the ally x
Bro I own the deck, ally and legion go. Get the Ally, it’s the best easily. The Legion Go is a close second. The deck is worthless, its lack of windows and 1080p is DOA compared to the Ally or Legion Go.
Just pre ordered the ally x, wanted something portable for out of house or in bed etc and i think it compliments the ridiculous 4grand I've spent on my main windows gaming rig
100% this is for you! Perfect companion. I've preordered one now too
70 quid games on Steam? 0_0 Steam has constant flow of discounts
The problem with some people is that if they don't hear what they want you to say, or if they object to your opinion because it differs from their device preference, they will claim it is sponsored. I mean, I can tell that it is not sponsored and you guys are telling based on your experience of using it by the way you guys talk and how excited your voices are when discussing the Ally X, specially when talking about how good the screen is. That is the same expression I have when I got my Ally. Mesmerized.
ikr. these people are the same type who like to start a 'console war' even when they are just PC handhelds.
@@celtycelluloidit’s really the steam deck stans lol. I love my OG ally. Got it used for around 500. Performance is about the same from what it seems so I’m not sure why the hosts don’t bring that up as an option. I returned my SD oled for the ally and I’m very happy as I can play all the games I want trouble free. Passing on the X, but I’ll upgrade for next gen with the new chipset. For 500$ I can’t recommend it more, specially with the constant software updates.
@@Cadillacfrank94 I will just wait for a real console handheld from real gaming companies, ie Sony. Might go get a switch 2 in the mean time. I used to play on PC for better performance and visuals, but since then I really dont care about these stuff very much now. I just want to play my PS games on the go with native support, not a emu, not a PC port. I guess I'm not encouraged by the recent Sony PC ports really. I hope gaming be more simple and cheaper like a few years ago. But anyway.
@@celtycelluloid rumors have it switch 2 should be around ps4/ps4 pro levels of power, which should be more than fine for now. Only issue is getting third party games onto it, which is why the steam deck/rog ally are so nice. I was hopinh the weird ps5 controller thingy would be sony's "steam deck" but that just ended up being a glorified tablet. Maybe microsoft might try something seeing as how they're basically ditching xbox nowadays
@@epicgamerzfail4575 Yeah. I never had a switch before so I'm thinking maybe I should be getting one if it is going to have tons of good 1st party games plus maybe some good Sony or Xbox ports who knows? If Sony release a new handheld plays all PS4 games natively at least, it will great too. I mainly play PS games anyway. PC handheld like the steam deck or Ally, is more powerful and flexible, but tbh, I can't justify the price of the hardware anymore especially when they like to release 'new versions' every year or two. I just need a cheaper simple device that can run games locally and natively, no need to be too fancy really.
I wonder if they got rid of bloatware and fine tuned the optimization before making this video. I followed a video that went in depth with all the things you can do to get better performance from the rog and there was a significant increase. I went from getting 45 fps on Resident evil 4 remake to a smooth constant 65 fps and resident evil is one of the most demanding games right now. I also went from getting 90-100 fps on 720p on medium settings on overwatch to constant 120 fps in 1080p high settings. This was on the original Ally I wonder how much better it plays with more ram.
can you link or give a route to that video? sounds great
@@frieren848 look up in RUclips “the ultimate rog ally tuning guide! Increase over all performance…..” from a channel called cppc tek. Also recommend watching a couple other similar videos, most cover the basics but every now and then someone shares some new info the last guy didn’t know about and often times it’s a really small difference but it can quickly stack up.
sold my steamdeck oled for the ally x!
Was it worth it I’ve been battling my brain over which to get tomorrow lol
@@JacobTurner-r2w 100% it’s my most favorite device I have ever owned.
@@JacobTurner-r2wI'm not exactly the original dude who wrote that comment but I think the steam deck would just about do it the OLED especially because of the longer battery life
@@meric12131415 ended up getting the asus rog ally z1 extreme and do not regret it it has handled every game I’ve thrown at it.
I wish ASUS company sent me a free copy ASUS Rog ally x. I will do a fair honest review.
Me too. Sadly they only loaned us one and it was returned!
Why do they both sound like stampy
we are Stampy Clones
@@128KB lol
Asus is too expensive, their warranty is a joke. Valve has been a trust withy company so far. Steam OS is a open system, plays games well enough in a very impressive effective way. With proton there is a control over how a game can run. There has been cases with proton the game runs better then on Windows. And also we have to stop using a desktop operating system on a gaming devise. Windows just doesn't make sense
Yea no. Steamdeck has zero chance against the ally x. You can try to defend it but little by little everyone is realizing that is not even close. Asus is a hardware company, valve can never compete with that.
*you're too poor
@@firstclaims30 Yes and Value dominates the games, so they can take a cut on the hardware. That's why the Steam is always cheaper and remember Ally X comes out. Don't you think Valve isn't watching, for sure next Steam Deck will even be better. It will be a cat and mouse, but Valve seems to always have the cheapest hardware with good enough performance. They did say, battery is their main objective, so the moment there is a better acpu (performance and battery), the Ally is back to the drawing board LOL put in more battery till it's a brick.
@@RuiCastroPT Deck fanboys trying too hard.
Don't buy the Ally from Asus then, deal with the supplier, ie the shop you buy the device from.
Steam deck ease of use depends on weather your games are mostly from Steam and provided they work, But if they don't work be prepared for compatibility layers, protons versions, command lines, and doing lots of research and even then they may not work at all. While windows gives you access to all native pc games from all launchers along with repacks, anticheat games, Lossless Scaling/ universal frame generation, abandonware games, along with being able to use any kind of pc software. There are also frontends like playnite, steam big picture mode for a more streamline gaming.
Nailed it!
yeah, ironically enough the rog ally is more user friendly in terms of ease of use/plug and play. Windows machine will always be more straightforward for the average joe when it comes to gaming specifically. Valve deserves some praise for constantly trying to push linux gaming but as you said, if a game doesn't natively work for the steam deck it's a lot of hoops to get it working.
There's apps that will do all the backend stuff for you. most of my games are not on steam and I've never worried about whether or not it works.
The only thing that doesn't work is kernel level rootkits.
He's comparing the steam decks high end features like Oled But then comparing the price to the low end steam deck that does not include those features
No, we're comparing SD OLED to ALLY X. In the UK SD OLED is £450, ALLY X is £800.
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Congrats!
GUYS, DON'T BUY THE ROG ALLY X, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. PRETTY MADE LIKE ME THAT I UPGRADED THE RAM PUTTING 32 GB RAM.. THE BATTERY WILL LAST HALF AN HOUR LONGER 😂☝️🇮🇹🇺🇸🙏
Thanks for this video comparison. I love my steam deck oled, but the Ally X is very intriguing. Too bad Asus had major issues with their SD card reader and customer service.
I heard this before from somebody else and I've definetely got to say it myself.
The steam deck is Unbeatable, The absolute best value for money that you get for a handheld. Why? Valve owns Steam. They can sell the Steam Deck handheld for almost nothing, and they'll still make a profit from it. They're selling it for such a good value because every single game sold on the steam marketplace, Valve gets a 30% cut.. If you're getting the steam deck, then you're going to be buying a lot of steam games. If you already game on a pc, that's even better value for you. You already bought the games on your PC, so you can play it on your new steam deck with no extra cost.
Steam deck is not for the "bit stupid". Steamdeck is linux. Windows handhelds are just rubbish, very powerful but software wise, total rubbish. The steam deck is the pinnacle of optimisation, a balance between power and fun. Like the classic gameboy, it was not as powerful as the game gear, but still, people would buy the game boy, better price, better experience. Change my mind.
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I dont play much games on pc (Windows,linux) besides game consoles like ps5 or switch. I do have a rog ally but my experience wirh it is alittle more on the negative side. At this point if you ask me Im planning to rid my Ally for a steamdeck oled because of the beautiful screen and battery. I also had the original steamdeck and havent had much crash or errors as much I had with ally. Good day people! 👍
They said one of the ports on the ROG ally X can plug in external EGPU which is mean you can plug an external graphic card better than XGM Mobile port? Yes XGM port is better than the other port but which one you have to pay more if it shows that one port is cheaper than the other port means this port is cheaper than the other one to USB 4 port is a type thunderbolt four that can plug-in external graphic card can give you enough performance you need means you can use AMD or Nvidia which is that’s what I’m gonna do. I’m not gonna buy this product but I have a different product which is Lenovo Legion go because it has a USB 4 port means you can plug into any external graphic card
Can't the ally run indie games like the steamdeck? I don't see the need for both of them
You're right, really. For 90% of people there's only need to have one device, especially for the prices, however SD can run at a lower TPD so if you're just into Indies you'll likely get better battery etc from the SD. Then you could use the ALLY X for the more modern or multiplayer stuff but yeah you could just go ALLY X and run everything there.
Rog ally x playing a indie game at 7 watts should net you about 6-8 hours on battery. 10w should be about 5-7 hours. 15w should be about 3 1/2 hours. 18w should be about 2 1/2 hours. Full throttle will about about 2 hours or right under it
This is just absurd. There's no cheating on anything due to no marriage. And it's not a war. Steam Deck has been a terrible product even if Ally didn't exist. And Ally has been the hands down only valid choice since it released.
One thing some people need to consider is the steam deck OLED has a 1000 Nit HDR display. If that’s not important to you then you’re not used to seeing HDR content or games.
YEEEEEEEEAAA FINALLY
OS, customer support, and community alone makes the steam deck better. The competition brand is known for overpricing, bad quality, and bad customer support.
The ally x shills here are insane 😂 bought an ally and immediately sold it for a deck
not shill, we just make videos about the things we get to try and love. Keeping the SD, as it is AMAZING but for AAA games handheld the Ally X does that for me.
@128KB Don't worry, just referring to some commenters
This looks like a great upgrade to the OG Ally. Always wanted a bigger battery. But after using my OG SteamDeck and Ally for over a year now, i think I will wait for Xbox or PS handheld instead. PC gaming experience is just not that too great compare to console for me.
something like the gpd win 4 or a ayaneo slide or something like that can be even more capable then the rog ally x. you can even get 64gb of ram on the gpd win 4
Recently picked up the ROG Ally Z1 Extreme, Very happy with performance in the games I play.
The Ally X wasn’t even on my radar till yesterday!
Shame pre orders are such a nightmare here in Ireland.
I wonder how much battery or performance gain one would get if they install Tiny11 on the Allay X. It is a cut down windows 11 version that removed al lthe unneeded components. It uses up about a quarter of the ressources of the default windows 11 installation.
I recently bought an Oled. Really like it. But I also like my PC and PS5. I definitely buying the ROG Ally X. But will keep the Deck as well. Mainly as I like Ea24 etc and new games
i bought the steam deck oled a few weeks ago , but i will be selling it to put the funds towards the ally x , steamdeck is great dont get me wrong , but it just has alot of limitations - EAC is a nightmare on linux
These dudes are so douche 😂. Not keeping it real because there being sponsored 🤡 Bro for the normal gamer. The steam deck 100% more practical. Facts! That ally is too expensive for what it is imo. 1000% deck oled gang ✌🏾
I think we say all of that in the video dude. 100% love the deck, it’s definitely for most people perfect. The Ally X is peak, high end handheld though. As we say in the video, we love both. And also, we are not sponsored by anyone.
Just got the ally open box 385 at Best Buy. Very happy with this device. Had the of steam deck, Sold it quickly.
Yooo have you guys tested quick resume on the Ally X? Yes Bazzite is a possibility but Bazzite still doesn't support eGPUs T_T
hibernate was always very reliable in my experience on the first ally...
@@flathead950 whoa for reals??? No random wake-ups, and how's battery drain on hibernate?
@@hameerz No hibernate was never known to cause random wake ups, and it just doesn't. Battery drain is the about same as deck.
@@hameerz Hibernate causes some of my games to crash or freeze.
As a Legion Go Owner who had the Steam Deck LCD and the Rog Ally. The Rog Ally is wayy better. Steam Deck owner must stop being soo delusional. Literally. Steam Deck is great. But not all PC games on Steam can be played on the Rog Ally with any compromises. The Rog Ally wasn't prefect. But all the games could run with no problems. And why I didn't mentioned the Legion Go.. Is the same hardware. Only thing. Bigger screen.
It depends on the person using it
STEAM DECK OLED WITH 4 CORE MAKES NO SENSE 😂😂☝️🇺🇸🇮🇹
I have a steam deck 256LCD I’m looking for another device and have my radar on the claw if they lower the price many reviews says it’s very janky but with a few more updates though out this year could be my next handheld we’re living in a great time many companies want to compete and that’s a great thing for us could consumers
You can pick the 1TB Claw up for £499 now, which is cheaper than the 1TB Steam Deck OLED. MSI are also doing 3 months of gamepass free with it, as well as a £50 Steam Voucher included
I still think its too janky a console for me personally, but the fact its undercutting the Steam Deck makes it a bargain if it would fit your use case!
Still no oled and the same chip as the first ally with the z1 extreme, no track pads and still just 7 inch
for 800 pounds you can get a ps5 + steam deck or Xbox + steam deck
I just stacked up my gamepass till 2027. The Rog Ally X is my savior! Putting up my steam deck for sale.
Oh that's awesome, mines only up to about august 2025!
Regular ally was better than steam deck, so yea lmao
If the Ally X is amazing, just imagine Steam Deck 2 or the next handheld gaming... what a great time to be alive!
100%!!
I'm still in the process of deciding which handheld I want to buy.
Wait for the Switch 2 announcement later this year. It'll blow the other handhelds out of the park.
@@Mis4hathe reveal is going to be next year lol they have new games for the current switch they is no way they gonna announce that when they still want ppl to buy switch to buy those games
@@Mis4haunless you’re a child, no it won’t.
Man if the screen was 8 inch on the ally x it would have been the amazing. Even more important than the oled everyone’s requesting
Yeah, but there isn't an OLED screen with vrr and 120hz that's seven inches yet, so they're probably saving it for the Ally 2.
Netiher. The Legion Go is THE one
not comparable, the power difference is way too big
Console people are just kids who like to be spoonfed.
Really good video, probably the best direct comparison I’ve seen on RUclips. For my use-case the Steam Deck made more sense based on the types of games I play and what my existing PC/consoles can handle, but the niche the Ally has carved out is perfect for itself. Always good to see more competition in the handheld space!
thanks so much!
If you're comparing the ally x to the highest end OLED deck its nowhere near double the price.
We're comparing base OLED to ALLY X. UK pricing, SD OLED £450, ALLY X £800. Basically double.
@@128KBI bought a 1TB Oled Steam Deck for 679 euros. It would be fair to compare the Rog Ally X to the 1TB Steam Deck Oled.
20 mins of yes yes, absolutely, yes, I agree, yep, mmm hmm, yes, yep, absolutely in between marketing points 😂
@@jj454 absolutely, yes, yes, indeed. Hmmmm... Yes. I agree.
I'm wanting to upgrade from my lcd sd. To me, it comes down to the screen. The problem is they're both great. Oled's color gamut and contrast ratio is just a big deal for most games I play. On the other hand, 1080p and vrr sounds so good, and now I find out it smells amazing too! IDK which to upgrade to.
🤣 it does smell amazing! It's a tough choice, the OLED is a beautiful bigger screen but 1080pVRR is also a pleasure to game on. It really comes down to price and what kinda games you want to play. It's a big price jump up to the ALLY but you get native Game Pass/any PC launcher etc. and better AAA performance. Steam Deck excels for older/indie titles with the odd AAA sometimes being playable.
Make sure you watch AAAs benchmarks for ally before you buy, if you're thinking it's a 1080p mostly 60 FPS experience all around playing AAAs you're in for a huge disappointment.
Rog Ally: FPS Game
Steam Deck: RPG
After how Asus has been recently with theyre shitty scam like customer service. Thats something i wouldn't buy
You know if you don''t buy from Asus you don't have to worry about their customer service. Buy from a good supplier and deal with the shop you bought it from.
@paulsegrue5133 I doubt that wil work that way brother
Already put my preorder going from og z1x to ally x my one regret spending money on a 2tb 2230 ssd and finding out it’s 2280 now womp womp
Just put your 2230 into the Ally X, it'll still take it!
@@128KB Exactly. Get a 4 USD adapter to extent the 2230 SSD to the 2280 format. Its still the same technology, so no compatibility issues.
What do you mean you can't play call of duty on steam deck? Yes you can
@@stevenduncan6555 single player yeah, multiplayer no, not natively. Yes you can install windows on the Steam Deck or stream it from your rig/Xbox or PS but we're talking natively here on SteamOS.