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How to Use the E-4 With a MIDI Keyboard!
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- How to Use the E-4 With a MIDI Keyboard!
Today I'm demonstrating how to use the Roland E-4 Voice Tweaker with a MIDI keyboard, and why you might want to do such a thing. The E-4 has the function of it's older sibling, the VT-4, to take pitch data from an external MIDI source, and apply it to incoming microphone audio. This means that you can effectively play what you want to sing, including chords of up to four notes! It's incredibly useful, and I hope to see lots of E-4 users doing incredible things with this feature. Enjoy the video :)
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If you need texts: just search for Laurie Anderson lyrics 🙂. She did a whole lot of vocoder / avant-garde style music in the 1980’s of which “O Superman” is the only song that got very famous, but her vocoder songs, particularly on the album “Big Science” are well worth a listen. The lyrics are often very weird and funny.
Good idea, thanks!
Saw Laurie Anderson in concert at Santa Cruz Civic Audtorium just after Big Science came out.
Very heavily-processed vocals for sure.
Mrs Lou Reed! 😁 Big Science is well worth checking out as it's aa absolutely fantastic album! Reached the top of the charts in the U.K. When it was first released!
Thank you! For some reason there is literally no other demo like this on RUclips. They all ignore midi input and go, here you go, autotune, done! There was a little midi input on a SonicState video but they showed it for like 2 seconds.
More more.
I'm in love with my Roland AIRA compacts....and modular....and the Behringer clones. An 80s metalhead turned DJ turned frustrated wannabe synth god. Great work!!
Thanks for watching!
I just bought the E-4 a few weeks ago and already love it. Since the early 2000s I've not been too enamoured with a tonne of Roland gear, but I feel like the E-4 is destined to become a minor classic! At first I was kinda hesitant as it doesn't have a balanced XLR input, but I must admit it has a really good mic preamp. Using it with a SM-58 with a 1/4" Jack there is virtually no hiss/noise or feedback even at high levels they an amp/p.a.. I've found that it sounds even better sticking my old Boss CS-3 compressor in front. Currently I'm using it in the FX send/return of my old mixing desk. TBH I'm absolutely loving experimenting with just the Scatter and reverb on a bunch of my old analog synth and drum machines especially on the TB-303, it sounds wonderfully deranged!😁 I paid £143 for it which is great, it's worth it for the reverb and Vocoder function alone.
Glad to hear you're liking it! Thanks for watching :)
If this thing had instrument inputs omg .,.
@@GullySyde28 Yeah, ideally there should be a Line/Mic switch so you can plug in a guitar or synth on the 1/4 Input on the front. You can just use a DI Box tho so you don't fry it, lol.
Roland really mastered the vocoder effect, the E-4 is already a classic.
Definitely!
Great Job Bro! You know, I think you have struck on something here with "connectivity vids". This is a bit of a dark corner for most channels, and you doing special vids on this opens up lots of opportunities, such as connecting POs to various equipment, or say, connecting Volcas to Liven XFm, etc. And, thanks for the link to the Midi-A Adapter that works!
Thanks as always, I appreciate it!
Wow! What a nice video, FB! Your vocal effects and ambient idea with this thing is something I'd never thought about and I love your results! I won't be getting this gadget because I already have the Roland VP-7 as I mentioned yesterday...but I'm inspired to try your ideas out on that! Thank you!!!! Love these videos! And may I also add that with all the bad going on in the world right now, just hearing your positive attitude and the joy you get from making music is a therapy I need and I look forward to my FB fix everyday! You really do make this world a nicer place! Thank you!
Thank you so very much!
I've got this to work with the MPK mini via the MPC One+.
I have connected the MPC One+, MPK mini and Roland E-4 via USB to get the voice through E-4 autotuned to the notes played on the MPK.
The track is set to midi, midi program channel is 1 and midi port is "E-4 MIDI IN". The E-4 mix out is connected to the MPC input.
Awesome!
Hi. Would there be another way to connect E-4 and MPK mini for those who don't own the MPC One+? What about Circuit Tracks?
Instead of a bulky microphone, and stand - I just tested the E-4 with Teenage Engineering M-1 headset. ( a more compact solution :) ) The TRRS jack works , you can use the microphone and monitor with the headset .! I guess one would use the USB Type-C (Audio, MIDI) out while monitoring and using the microphone plugged into the E-4.
That's awesome, thanks for watching!
Just got an E4 and found your channel. You've really nailed this video. 👏 Excellent, suscribed!
Thank you so much!
Super helpful tutorial. I was thinking of getting one of these for my live shows to give them something extra. Perfect purchase dude.
You remember RadioShack!!! Very cool, and thank you for a video on exactly what I needed to know
Absolutely!
Does sound very good. Was excited to get one of these. Then looked around and went for the TC Helicon Perform VE instead. A very nice box, with built in drum machine and sampler, though pretty basic, they're great fun.
Thanks for watching!
That was very cool! I didn't knew about the hidden menue features. ✌much thanks!
Yeah there's quite a few settings in there! Thanks for watching :)
Finally! This guy gets it lol! Saying test or 123 or repeating the preset.. sheesh lol! Vocoders are meant to be sung into roboto pinky roboto!
Yeah haha, I definitely tried to have some fun with it. More content on the way!
This was one of the funnest videos I've watched of yours, nice job!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Thanks. What a gas! Soooo cool. What fun.
Thanks for watching!
I’m loving the Vocorder bit, really fun
Thanks!
Do you by any chance have a video demonstrating the Roland vt4? Great video
HAHA! TOO MUCH FUN!
Now ... what happens if you take the audio out of a synth or a PO and use that into the Microphone input (turn the synth volume way down first) and mangle that with the vocoder or the MIDI/pitch/harmony thing or the other effects to mangle the sound?
We'll find out next week when my TRRS splitter finally shows up haha. Got quite a few plans for that!
You unlock a new sonic dimension. Be careful!
Basically the only reason i bought it was to use as you suggest.
Peace.
Loved all your E-4 videos, really want to see how this works with my fiddle (GAS problem), Subbed to your channel.
Thank you so much!
WOW thats a great pairing and info,..great vid..
Thanks so much!
A future video only talking in vocoder! My E-4 shipped today and can’t wait to jump in!!
I'm excited for you!
I’m ready for a video with you using the looper on that thing.
That's on the way as well :)
Great demo. Thanks a lot
Thanks for watching!
@@FreeBeat
You're welcome!
I sort of stumbled over your account after buying a Volva and an IK mini a couple of weeks ago (RUclips-algorithm works!) and i like your approach to things which don't cost an arm and a leg ... 👍
This is amazing. Could you please do a video on connecting the J-6 to the E-4 so the vocals are affected by the keys played on the J-6?
You got it!
Your video deserve much more visibilty... could you please let me know if it would work wth another combination ? Like TC Helicon GoXLR with Arturia ?
I'm honestly not familiar with the goXLR, sorry!
@@FreeBeat Thanks no worries ;)
Hey great vid as usual! I was trying to connect my OP-1 to the E4 to use the keyboard vocoder but seems it wont work. Do l have buy the jack adaptors from 3.5 to midi maybe? Thank you again!
This was helpful, and I work at Roland, lol
Oh wow haha, thanks so much!
that’s INSANE!!!!!!!! pretty cool dude keep it up!!!!!!
Thanks, dude. I habe that unit too. It's a huge thing in deed.🎉
excellent video, thank you.
Thank you so much!
I have the E-4 and I'm still dying to find someone who is making a video that shows how to sync with an external midi clock. I have an OP-Z with the midi out module. The E-4's auto pitch knob is blinking when the Op-Z is going, showing that it recognizes the signal, but I can't figure out how to actually record synced loops. Would love if you make a video showing how to use that feature
I haven't tried that either, I'll have to give it a shot!
Great! Thank you so much
Thanks for watching!
Wow! I wonder if you could use the ARP or sequencer from the keyboard to send to the E-4. Then whenever you spoke into the mic it would be melodic
Even maybe key spep 37 strum
You definitely can! Thanks for watching :)
I didn't even think of using the strum, I'm gonna have to do that!
I've been experimenting with my E-4 for weeks now and absolutely love it. I've been using the sequencer and arpeggiator on my MS-1 (Roland SH-101 clone) then singing thru the mic. I've also been feeding a distorted guitar signal into it from my old EHX Big Muff and Morley Wah, it's really a nifty sounding bit of gear, cheap too!😁
@@Rr0gu3_5uture how accurate is it when you do an ARP? does it track well? I'm so close to buying this! I want to modulate guitar sounds really
Such a cool video. Good content!
I appreciate it, thanks for watching!
Ok you have my sub thank you for the information. I'm looking in to a vocal box . This will help .
Thanks so much, I appreciate it!
Hi great video, just discovered the Aria series. I have to say I'm very impressed. Very interesting in the E-4 but I do have a couple of questions. I've had the Antares Auto Tune for about 20 years and various software processors. The problem with the Antares is it is basically on or off. Wish it did like percentage etc. So how does the E-4 work as just an intonation processor? I'm interested in it mostly for live performance. I'm a woodwind player. Do you know of any videos that show the E-4 being used with woodwinds? Also, I suppose it can be, but when using it as a harmonizer can you send the chords from a sequencer? I play alot as a soloist, playing along with midi backgrounds or sometimes as a duo. Mostly very poor paying gigs. So I want to simplify as much as possible. Thanks for a great video!
Love it! That's so cool!
Thanks for watching!
You could read "The Raven" while testing scatter-fx with vocoder on. You might beat James Earl Jones somehow. :)
No one will ever beat him haha
Any videos on the Roland VT-4 ?
I have both of these devices and they are hooked up the way you've described but nothing happens when I press buttons on the keystep37. it is set to channel1
Im using this to allow soundbath attendants sing in key with our ambient music. However, dilemma!!! I followed your instructions and the roland manual to the letter and for some reason I still cant get the MIDI signal recieved. Using Type A 3.5 to 5 pin MIDI Adaptor. Can anyone help me out here? Auto pitch to Fix, Key Input turned on. Keystep 37 clock set to internal. Proper Midi channel. What am I missing?
Thanks for another great vid!! Question: do you think I could use my older synths that have midi like this: the Alesis Micron and the venerable MircoKorg ?
Could you program the melody in midi and send it to the Roland over USB? I have an MPC and would rather not mess with splitter midi cables and stuff.
Yes that should work :)
@6.53 ... so very true
Free Beat i love you channel would it be possible to show how to set up the roland t-8 with the korg sq 64 so i can use every individual drum that would be so amazing thks
Hello,
A question for the experts.
*How do I connect devices with built-in sounds
Directly to a control keyboard that has no sounds?
*Which cables do I need? And what is the friend why?
- I have: launchkey 25 mk Novation control keyboard
and want to connect it for example:
to CIRCUIT TRACKS.
Or - for the Roland device / Roland Aira S-1
and use their sounds.
Many thanks to the helpers.
if you could use the midi on the digitone or syntakt to control the roland e4 (also send thru), which one and why?
It really just depends on if you like the Digitone or Syntakt more haha.
Soon on this channel: Free Beat driving through a McDrive, ordering the McAlien menu in vocoder style.
I can not wait to see you demo routing synth audio through his baby.
Hahahaha
Thanks for this video! Does anyone know if it's possible to set portamento/glide on vocoder mode? Cheers
Yes it is :)
To do mic tests, i always describe my meal or what i did the day before xD hope that helps
Hahaha that's a pretty good idea!
Nice video! Is there a vocoder setting where the mic input is closed, when you don’t play a key? Otherwise all noises around you on stage will trigger the vocoder in your breaks:)
Not that I've found, but it seems Roland has hidden all sorts of secret settings in the E-4 without documenting them lol.
I dunno… after hearing this I’m starting to lean towards getting an E4 versus the T4.
What if my midi out of the keystep is already being used to go to my roland MC-101 midi in? how do I connect my keystep to the E-4?
pls tell me could I use this with an akai mini play? thankyou
You would need to get a USB MIDI host as the mini play does not have a traditional MIDI out connector
Hi! Can you help me? I'm interested in buying a Roland E4, but I'm trying to figure out what I actually need to make it sound through speakers...How should I output it to an amplifier for example? Or to audio monitors? Can I do that with just one cable?
thats ace when you take the audio out does it need to go into a mic input on a mixer or standard audio in on a mixer ?
Standard Line in :)
Awesome video! I have a question. Could you hypothetically control the pitch of your voice with just the pitchbend ribbon and no key inputs?
I have some projects in mind which involve a lot of repitching with simple gestures. I am thinking of buying an E-4
Attempting this with a Komplete control s88 and not having success. Using the BMIDI 5-35 Type A cable. Is it a controller capability issue? I notice you and another content creator are using the Arturia Keystep. Are you powering the Keystep through your computer or with a power supply? Thanks
Just Fab!
Thank you!
I'm loving the sound of the E-4 but what's up with not being able to tap or otherwise set tempo? That's kind of a bummer
Can you plug other instruments into the input, or does it have to be a mic only? Curious if you could plug a guitar into it, or the output from a synth etc.
We're you able to use your Arturia Keystep with the ROLAND Aira J-6?
I don't own a J-6 sadly :(
They work nicely together...once I figured out what I was doing..which is always half the battle. Lol
do I need a preamp between my e-4 and my interface? I can't get much volume recording it in protools
I feel like the vocoder alone is worth the price. Im wondering, since the mic input is a TS, can you plug a guitar in? 🤔
No, the mic input is for mic signal, -50 dBV compared to instrument signal level at -10. But the TRRS input is line level, could use that
You beat me to it haha.
Good vidya!
Thank you!
Hey, can someone HELP, I have the J6 and the E4 and It doesn't work. The midi works because when I press play on the j6 there is a dot blinking on the E4 but if I press any button on the j6 it doesn't change the pitch, I turn key IN, out on the FiH etc but it do not work. Please someone help :) love you guys
Can Roland e-4 be used for live stage performance? I ever tried it with my full band performance (of course with loud sound environment) but the e-4 created huge noise unexpectedly.
Is it common for e-4? Then it’s only designed for silent studio (?)
What were you running it through? It should work just fine.
@@FreeBeat i just use e4 using dynamic microphone (Shure SM58) and connect e-4 directly to mixer.
hello! i have ipad with type c, can i use this device only in midi mode (no audio i terface - i already have one, so i dont need second)
Weird question: Why do you use Ring/Tip splitter cables so often on devices that you could just plug a single Stereo 3.5mm cable into? (I get it when you're interfacing with Pocket Operators, but why, for example, on this video)?
Separate left/right inputs on the audio interface or mixer?
I use the Zoom Livetrak L-12 to record all of my audio. That 3.5mm cable you always see goes into a separate left and right input on the L-12, in channels 11/12. You can see my setup in this video ruclips.net/video/upEL19e1Gx8/видео.html :)
I bought a CA-3 5-pins DIN-TRS mini jack Midi-adapter , followed all steps of the video over and over and i cannot make it work.
Now I'm not sure if i bought the right adapter...can someone help me ,I'm going nuts...!?...😫
All of the ones I have have stopped working too :(
@@FreeBeat i found out the problem...i had to change the midi output channel from the Arturia key 37, meanwhile I've also found out that you can also change the midi input channel from the Roland E3...😉...maybe you're having the same issue....
Can it do hard tune for auto pitch like train ? The vt4 can and the only thing preventing me from buying this instead is if it also does it
What do you mean by hard tune? Sorry I'm a little out of touch with what things are called haha.
@@FreeBeat sorry auto correct changed my orginal so sentence it’s like deep autotune like tpain would use. It appears to have it but o haven’t see. Anyone make a video using it for more than 2 seconds it was a big feature of the vt4 and for example the c1 hardtune by tc electronics is basically a dedicated pedal to just that. It’s basically the autotune with like 80 percent or higher settings
@@VitaEx Yes you can do that :)
@@FreeBeat rock on thanks
Tom Sawyer... ❤
Please, can this be an auto tune in the sense of singing in line with chord progression that's controlled by MIDI keyboards?
Or singing to scale that fits the chord progression?
Or scale that can be chosen on the MIDI keyboard?
Hi! The microphone you're using over the main Mic In which kind of plug is using? Is it mono or stereo? Have you tried both kinds?
I'm just using a Shure SM57 with an XLR to 1/4" adapter. It's a mono mic, that's all I've tried.
Thank you!
I have been looking at these harmony solution devices for live use but I really want to have the harmony generation completely independent of the main vocal. Is it possible to do this - kind of a side-chain kind of solution? Perhaps with this - say I want to have part of the song doubled and part with a 3rd up - I suppose I could use a send from my main vocal channel and use the MIDI note generation and return to my ‘harminy channel’ to generate the harmonies? But yes I would also want parts of the song with just the main vocal.
I'm honestly not sure if that would be possible or not, it's a bit outside my wheelhouse unfortunately. Sorry!
This unit needs a mix knob for each vocal stem.
im trying to find a cable that can connect my aira e-4 to my sp404 mk2? Can you help me
Are you talking MIDI or audio, and what do you want to do with them?
@@FreeBeat I just want to record coming from Aira E-4 to the sp404 but with a midi controller connected to the E-4 just like in this video.
I dont know if its possible.
@@vergellim7361 Sure! Just use something like this amzn.to/45OOTQO
The dual 1/4" ends go into the inputs on the 404, then the single 1/8" end goes into the E-4. Then just connect a MIDI controller to the E-4 like normal.
@@FreeBeat Thanks. can i use this cable to connect to my Midi controller.www.sweetwater.com/c677--MIDI_Interfaces?highlight=MIDIminiTRSM&mrkgadid=&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gpla&mrkgbflag=1&mrkgcat=drums&percussion&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700073370090877&lid=92700073370090877&ds_s_kwgid=58700007963105270&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&dsproductgroupid=1795338701694&product_id=MIDIminiTRSM&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&device=m&network=u&matchtype=&adpos=largenumber&locationid=9031928&creative=615094225367&targetid=pla-1795338701694&campaignid=17962511191&awsearchcpc=&&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwj_ajBhCqARIsAA37s0xmp5DtD09WyPSDMsCTVpKk22shvWU4I2LWSJuTTC8747ulz-L1F7gaAtquEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Hi, I finally got the E-4! But I can not seem to find a way to change the darn tempo from the default 130bpm that shows up on the display when I first turn it on. Have you figured out how to change the tempo? It affects almost everything with respect to the effects,scatter, delay, looper, and is frustrating not even the online manual talks about how to change the darn tempo lol. Any help would be great. Also, do I have to use the battery all the time or can I plug the unit into a 5V brick and use it safely that way? A great device but at first try seems very limited.
Long live the MicroFreak
It's a beast for sure, can't wait to pair it up with the E-4. Thanks for watching!
Is there a way to send notes to the e4 and sing in tune based on what's being played via midi? So not fixing the singed notes to a single note as this video. Letting the singing notes change naturally as I'd sing but in tune. I hope that makes sense :) also when I turn on auto pitch I can't turn it off. The only way to remove the fixed singing controlled via midi is to turn off the device.
Yes you can do that :) Thanks for watching!
@@FreeBeat could you make a video tutorial about that? I think It would be super useful for many vocalists like me. Thank you a lot, I'm not missing any of your videos :)
@@meglioiguai Already did!
ruclips.net/video/NyfcbgzVATQ/видео.html
I suggest Star Wars quotes. Seems on brand for you.
This is where the fun begins!
Vocoder chords + looper = FREE BEAT CHOIR!
That might have to happen haha.
Everything usually goes to midi 1 by default, so no need to switch.
Thanks for watching!
You are turning me into a fan of this box, but I'm still unimpressed with the other 2
Good thing I got the E-4 then lol.
Hey there ! I tried to follow the steps to connect the unit via Midi with a midi keyboard (Keylab 49), but apparently the e-4 doesn’t receive the midi information from the keyboard, anyone with the same issue? 😢
I'm having the same issue...followed all steps over and over...now i'm suspecting that i bought the wrong midi adapter (a CA-3 5-pins DIN-TRS mini jack Midi-adapter)...🤷🏻♂️
Any luck Sergio?
@@Leo-ug4rf hello!!!
I had to set the keyboard and e-4 to the same midi channels !!!
There's a very complete tutorial over the e4.
I'll look for it and share here in the comments...
@@Leo-ug4rf ruclips.net/video/VmXMeMztLI8/видео.html
....it's in Spanish ...i don't know if you understand, good luck!!!
Ow! I think I tried that too but I’m gonna try again, thanks for your answer :)
Jordan Peterson mode @ 3:27
Thanks for watching!
Bitchin! Lol
Thanks!
What should I do with it? This: ruclips.net/video/LdtK_oiyJAo/видео.html
If only I had .0001% of Jacob's talent lol.
Ok, fun. Don’t wanna be a spoilsport but isn’t the Roland VT-4 a lot more bang for bucks?
I really liked the smaller form factor and the built in rechargeable battery. I also use Pocket Operators often, so being able to sync the Looper up with those is nice. Thanks for watching!
Curious if you have done a comparison and what your thoughts are on the two?
Noooooooo ! Why din't you use the arp of the keystep !!!!!
Wanted to keep this one simple for now :)
3.5mm midi 😓.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it either.
@FreeBeat. What about midi via usb from my keyboard. Can’t get it to work. Any tips!
Nothing new here, just get a microkorg.
While the Microkorg does have a great vocoder, it's a very different device than the E-4.
I laungh alot bro so funny video congrats!