FITTING FULL LIGHTS AND INDICATORS TO AN EBIKE | UK MSVA PART 2
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Making it neat with block connectors 🤣🤣
Love me some of that
I'm doing almost exactly the same thing this summer. I'll be keeping watch!
Good work Andy ! Well done.
Well done bro, you really adding ideas in my head.. I’ve built enough ebike but never thought about the one you’ve just built. It really looks supper. Suppose this will be my next project for 2019 summer. Thanks bro. Keep up the good work.😁✌️
instead of using connecting blocks. . small Anderson male female. quick release plugs would.look cleanerer and easy to disconnect if any problems.
+living with cctv yeah that would certainly be neater but if you need to keep adding wires as you build up the system the terminal blocks are pretty flexible... now it's almost complete I guess I could go that way. I'll see how they hold up over time!
andy kirby the small plugs are click to as well as as u add they just click together. but you know this . thanks for the reply
Getting plugs for the kelly controller is a nightmare and I'm sure for most controller and motor combos its only £4 for the plug but over £80 "to post from Europe!! and those connectors aren't necessarily the best especially when your changing and adding parts the blocks he's using are absolutely fine
Yet another great video
Guess you need a C.B.T and L-plates unless you have a full motorcycle licence.
Not if you have a car licence and its classed as a moped
I'm not sure, but I think you were measuring your current draw directly from the battery pack at 80V. High beam drew a current of about 1.7A, so that'd be 136W. If you're running a 12V light system that'd be 11.3A on your output side of the DC/DC converter (which is where it is rated for at 10A). You might be pushing your converter a bit at that current draw, especially if you're going to leave the main beams on for quite some time. Unless you were measuring 1.7amps at your 12V output, then just ignore my message (although 20W seems pretty low for high beam, unless you're running highly efficient leds). Good luck with the build!
i use 1 on 48v system and it was like a storage heater after an hour use & i have an controler box as heat sink
Can you link the headlight you used and the fork mount?
hi powered cycles in the USA has a windshield you can get for your bike. It costs a lot though. $300 USD. But if your going 30mph or more it would be useful.
You should put a multi meter on each end of each wire, to check for continuity, before de-soldering them.
Hmmmm, so blacks ground, then the other 2 are running lights and then brake light. The brake light wire is just a bit more voltage grab.
Neither worked eh??? hmmm.
Andy where did you get your frame from again and a ruff list of what you have so far so i can build one
This is the main light switch? ? How did that ?
Those block connectors go rusty after a while and then become faulty
Your better off using crimping connections
I would use motorbike brake levers or convert the brake levers you have as some motorbikes have like a clear bowl for the fluid
Andy to ask you to ride this ebike I must have driving motorcycle license or CBT license to 125cc if I register similar ebike like yours as moped with plate number. You info about register ebike like moped it is help me a lot. Very helpful info thank you dude.
2:03 are those big enough, not just light power but size and speed of flashing indicators may have to be considered; I don't know just guessing what they will want
Hey Andy my front lights and horn stop working I have the same head light as you and a horn spliced in any idea what’s the issue ?
Do you think it’d be possible to put links to all of the electronics you used to make this light system?
Great build....hopefully you get your ride licensed as motorcycle.
One question, Andy: Could you please post more informations which 12V DC-to-DC converter you used ?
TIA,
Holger
Andy great videos! Where did you get your headlight? Could you please share the link?
It's only a matter of time before the Government designate e-bikes as a sub type of the conventional pedal assisted moped and introduce mandatory registration, insurance, tax, test and licence regulations to curb their use by lunatic kids in the urban environment. The motor wattages now available are out of control as we have seen on here, and the fact that the power comes from a battery rather than a combustion engine doesn't make much difference when a collision occurs and some t-shirt and shorts wearing teen shoots along the tarmac in front of a truck. The lithium packs are potentially explosive and unqualified owners modifying their cycles should be a matter of concern to us all. Love your vid, keep it up.
Thanks for the comment, the biggest issues are the hurdles you have to go through to register any motor vehicle in the UK. If they just made 1000W ebikes legal and allowed them to be insured then all this would go away. The regulations need to catch up with the technology.
Years ago lithium packs were explosive. Time is going, people learning and more and more ebike riders prefer to make their battery packs from using non-explosive lithium cells such as LiFePO4 cells. Modern packs come with smart BMS which allow you to see if there are any problems with your pack, etc. So, any explosive packs have gone many years ago, unless kids making battery pack from recycled laptop cells, etc.
You're freaking awesome Andy, I'm going through this trying to get my custom Rat Rod E-bike street legal here in California, you would be surprised how similar it is. I'm not sure if any of your parts have to be DOT approved? Your videos have helped me move forward and make it happen, I'm almost their just need to finish up wiring which is boring. I might put a coffee-flavored donut launcher on the back and front to distract the cops, I think for yours you will need a Tea Flavored Biscuit launcher! 😂
Quick question, the one thing I haven't figured out and I been dragging it out, is where do I get a small switch that can handle 96V max so I can turn my DC to DC converter of and on? Or do any advice on how you have yours connected?
Thanks, Andy, My boys and I all love all your content here in NorCal USA
Are you allowed to connect your tail light and headlight in series if you have a 24v ebike? To avoid having to get a 12v transformer?
hello Please Andy does not know if the battery in triangle shape 350 millimeter fits if the this frame ???.... I'm thinking about buying it but I have the battery I did wrong to buy it before the quad of the bike
Hi Andy, i can get you a set Tektro Dorado brakes!
They are hard to get, because they are OEM only. Please let me know if you want them.
Putting sensors on hydraulic brakes turned out to be no big deal after hours of thinking about it. I didn't even have to remove the brake levers to install the sensors. A small neodymium magnet was buried in the end of the lever near the hinge and the sensors where attached with epoxy putty mixed with some black resin colour and you would not know they were not supplied like that.
+jdudb yeah it's all doable and I would have went this route but unfortunately as I understand it you still need brake fluid indicators on the levers otherwise it won't pass the MSVA. The TEKTRO brakes have both sensors and level indicators and non braided hoses which is also a requirement!
andy kirby and don't forget the ball end. I can get you a set Dorado's
+Lucas Brinkhaus Hi Lucas, nice bikes on your site 👍 do you have a rear Tektro dorado in stock?
andy kirby thanks! Yes i do! (Left or right?) What controller do you have?
+Lucas Brinkhaus left hand for rear brake, i use an Adaptto but the brakes won't be connected to it as I will use the switches in the brakes to operate the rear brake light. You can email me directly andy cloudsto.com
What size motorcycle headlight did you use? One of the smaller harley sportster 5.75in ones?
Yes the smaller one, E Marked.
Can't wait for the test video. Are you taking it with mudguards on ?Can you ask the tester if you need mudguards ?
+Craig Davies the only thing it says about mud guards is that the front guard should have a curvature of at least 2mm at the outside edge. I will be taking both off for the test just to make sure, there's no requirement that I can see.
The way I'm reading it is that if it's a bike with pedals then complying with the external projections requirements is optional.
andy kirby yea,I think after the MSVA there is no need for mirrors and stand for the MOT.Any insurance quotes yet ? I enquired with Adrian flux about a 50cc motorized bicycle £180 on the vin number,dropping to £80 after registration. As far as I'm aware you need insurance to apply for registration, chemical putty can be used to make the balls for the brake levers.
+Craig Davies yeah I think your right about the mirrors. That's interesting about Adrian Flux, that was my next step so I will give them a call, thanks for the heads up. I've just paid for my MSVA test now, all I need to do is book the date for the test. Still waiting for a custom stand bracket and horn. Do you know the form for registration after you pas the MSVA. Is it V55/4 ?
andy kirby Yes I think it is. The form will ask for a make and model.You can call it what you want,no rude words.
Do you have a link to the smaller fork clamps for the lights? Or what to search for on eBay?
No it was a while ago now
Where'd you get your rear fender from?
LEDs in series producing too high a voltage drop to get reliable use. Needs 12v ~ 14v surely
+th3d3wd3r Hi, the LEDs are not in series, they are in parallel.
That rear cluster will probably be a few LEDs in series (internally), which would make them fussy on voltage. But I'm sure you've tested it at a higher voltage already ;)
Fascinating build blog mate. I'm keen to see how you get on. I'm tempted on building a road bike with a qulbix raptor 140 frame and go down the road registered route now.
+th3d3wd3r ahh I see what you mean now! Yes you were right, on 12v it works perfectly. Learnt something there! You should do the raptor build it would be great. I'm getting closer to completion now (the videos are a little behind) more coming soon!
love your videos Andy great work as always but whyyyyy!! man leave it a bike haha they have electric motorcycle just get one if you want to be road legal. the Point of ebikes is to be free of the government and to get exercise the best thing about these bikes is you can ride them were ever. 2 each his own
+Ted Burns it's true Ted! But I'm getting bored of looking over my shoulder and sticking to 15-20 mph in order to stay under the radar. There are some electric motorcycles out there but they would require a full bike license which I don't have and can't be bothered with right now. If I want to go off road I just take the plate off! Simples!
what do you think the full build cost will be? . I'm thinking about a Harley but 10k a little steep, but a fast silent ebike could also be the answer esp if under 5 . . I got a full bike licence so I could in theory do something similar to a stealth b52 bomber. or would u recommend something else?
+living with cctv I think you could defo do it for under 5k maybe look at vector ebikes as you can get a fully built one, then you'd only have to do the road legal bits after.
AGIAN SPOT ON ride it off road
Same Andy you never show people how to connect wires to make head light ect. There are people like me arbt in to electrics. So what your doing your just showing where you put your lights. It should be step by step for putting light on bike
Why didn't you register it as day time use only. You don't need rear brake light. No head light. No indicators. All you need is a stand and number plate and E marked tyres 🤔 i do it to motocross bikes alot 👍
Not sure 100% Andy's purpose for rear lights but I've got ebike (not as posh as Andy's) and done my strong motorcycle front light and working on strong motorcycle rear lights for SAFETY ON THE ROAD. My safety and others obviously. Many drivers (car drivers, track, lory, etc.) blame normal cyclists and electric cyclists that they don't have proper lights. Normal bicycle lights or even ebike lights just good to put in the bin. That's why people like Andy and many other adapting motorcycle lights for ebike, for safety.
16:14 i dont think that rear light will work off a 9v battery ,not enough current , surely you got a car battery charger you could test it on or a car/motorbike battery ??
i tried to test a car stereo off a car battery charger once and it wouldnt power on ....was gonna bin it then i tested it on my car battery and it worked, battery charger didnt have enough amps ? to power it on ?
Martin Parker some chargers need to detect that they're connected to a battery before they put out a charge voltage. You can usually jump start one by having a battery to set it going then leave the device connected but remove the battery.
Hi Andy I just wanna know your motor watts or killowatt I got 1000w motors so I m just looking for upgrade thanks
+h singh hi the motor is capable of 5 kilowatt continuous and 14kW bursts.
I wish you could provide a link for the dc to dc adapter?
Do you still need the link? I have the same one but it can handle more amps for brighter headlights, or the same exact as his, I can give both links if you're still interested?
@@FarmerFpv I would appreciate it... need one that can handle at least 75W. (72V to 12V) One other think I am concerned about is that I messure (83V on my "72V"-battery when fully charged, could that be a problem? Should I look for an adapter with spec. 80V? 90V? Or does the 72V ones work?
Before I started watching the previous video, I was thinking that you probably get some abuse from motorists for flying past them at 45ish but I also feel that going through the VOSA thing etc could open up a whole government argument for ebike users.
Yeah its true, unfortunately it will happen one way or another, you can count on it. I just wanted to get there first to highlight what a pain it is and highlight how out of date the MSVA system is. I've seen your email by the way I will respond soon!
Does your motor get hot?
+anton arnqvist it gets warm but never too hot to touch.
How much power is the bike? Watts?
It’s 14,000 Watts or 14kW
that is not street legal though, is it?
Please put the COST of all this Crap
google crap, your face pops up.
Spider? 10:10
It aays fitting indercater and brake light to an ebike but we don't see you actually do it. I'm OK with electric but what about the person that wants to learn to do it he would have a clue because your not doing step by step all your doing is showing what you have done then checking current. I done mine ages ago. I didn't ues drop Dow. Bought battery 5hr working 12v eon flashing unit light from a wagon that light up at side. Motor bike brake light and indercater warning light. The battery weightjut over 2lb charging 2hrs last 3to 4 week also headlight. The indercater are awsum flat to frame dead bright
Could you do a step by step tutorial if possible? Just need better visuals on how to wire everything.
dont use chocolate blocks theyre shit, solder everything when youve done or use a proper distribution box with soldered connections.
The amount of money will most likely increase ten times to do this; how they don't want a crash test
all that money and time u could have got a proper motobike
I’ve got the money it’s ok😅 I could buy any motorbike I want... if I wanted to. Fact is I like modern technology. ICE Engines are out of date, why do you think Formula 1 is going electric?
That Ebike is an illegal one because it doesn't have the sticker that states it's an ebike