57.DIY Boat Building: Not your normal FOAMO!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @ElleDelSol
    @ElleDelSol 2 месяца назад +3

    If you ever do this again, a japanese pull saw is the absolute ticket. Super thin and flexible, cuts through foam like nothing. Super happy to see progress!

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, kind of had to work with the tools I have. After using that little hand saw I knew a longer pull saw would have been cake. Another good tip. Why do I always get these after the fact? Hmmmmm?

    • @Pocketfarmer1
      @Pocketfarmer1 2 месяца назад +1

      An effective alternative is an electric carving knife. The ones with two serrated blades that move opposite each other from the 70s. They eat foam like nobodies business.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      My wife freaked when I used her sewing scissors to cut out the templates, I don't think I will have a place to live if I use a kitchen carving knife. But, a cheap replacement one would do the trick.

  • @chrisclarke3670
    @chrisclarke3670 2 месяца назад +1

    Glad to see you again and getting near the finish line.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад +1

      I'm one step closer and I am not even sure I'm closer to the finish line than I am the starting line. It is going to take what it takes, and I'll be done when I'm finished I guess. Until then, one bite at a time, right. Appreciate it.

  • @JonEyv
    @JonEyv 2 месяца назад +2

    I thought I was watching some years ago stuff but you literally on it now. Thx man

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад +1

      Yep, still making a little progress here and there. Hoping once the weather cools a little I can make some big strides. Appreciate it.

    • @ВРАГБАНДЕР.Самоделки
      @ВРАГБАНДЕР.Самоделки Месяц назад +1

      я сначала думал что он матрицу делает. к пенсии лодка будет готова.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      Кто сказал, что я собираюсь уйти на пенсию? Я могу сделать эту лодку целой карьерой. Что я могу сделать лучше?

    • @ВРАГБАНДЕР.Самоделки
      @ВРАГБАНДЕР.Самоделки Месяц назад +1

      @@Bigeaux20 сделать матрицу и по ней делать лодки из стеклоткани и смолы.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад +1

      Это разовое изготовление для личного использования и чтобы научиться делать это ради удовольствия. Если я захочу строить лодки для производства и продажи как судостроитель, я обязательно сделаю матрицу для наилучшего воспроизведения.

  • @emmanmiclat7839
    @emmanmiclat7839 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm looking forward to the end product.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Appreciate it. Me too!

  • @pathaley4609
    @pathaley4609 2 месяца назад +1

    Oscar hope you are ready for the storm coming in. I would think you have quite a bit of lite stuff that needs to be put away. Good luck and glad to see you back.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Yeah we will just have to see. Most of my stuff is in a little work room, but I keep some stuff around the boat. I put some extra lashings on my tent, and it's not supposed to be super bad when it gets up to us, but we will see. We won't know until we know. Appreciate it.

  • @matheussilva6202
    @matheussilva6202 2 месяца назад +1

    Very cool!

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Appreciate it. Thanks for checking it out. Still a ways to go.

  • @blainethompson6510
    @blainethompson6510 2 месяца назад +1

    Howdy pard looking forward to seeing you hitting the water with YOUR boat
    Personally a bit jealous

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      All in due time I suppose. Appreciate it. Just have to stay on it till it's done. I have to admit, I have thought about the emotions I will experience the first time it goes in the water. Going to be powerful for certain. Don't be jealous. Be happy.

  • @Westozmagic
    @Westozmagic 2 месяца назад +3

    Spent a lot of time in bilges when I was an apprentice boatbuilder digging that foam out as it gets water logged and then starts to break down over a few years.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Yes, there is plenty of horror stories about soggy foam. It is my hope that by only putting foam in completely sealed compartments due to the design of the boat, that we can mitigate that process as much as possible. The benefits of flotation in an emergency, and the sound buffering is valuable. Maybe you can help me understand. How can water penetrate foam in a completely sealed, epoxied, fiberglassed compartment? How can moisture, outside of normal air properties, infiltrate a sealed space? Can you help me understand so maybe I can plan better?

    • @Westozmagic
      @Westozmagic 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Bigeaux20 all good mate I worked on commercial fishing boats boat building you have skin fittings movement as in flex which creates hairline cracks deck fixings that haven’t been sealed properly and so forth. But if you have waterproof voids which in theory are airtight the best buoyancy is air for instance try turning a bucket upside down on water full of air and try to push it underwater it will literally float a person.multiply that volume by your internal space and you’ve got more than enough. I:e that’s if you haven’t torn the bottom out on a reef of course 😩

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      @@Westozmagic yes the other consideration being as this is a skiff is the foam will act as a sound absorber to dampen the echoing in a hollow space. It’s going to give a little more weight of course, but the solid feel, and the noise dampening, along with the emergency flotation should something terrible happen, are my reasons. Good to hear your thoughts. Stick around!

    • @operatoreng
      @operatoreng Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@Bigeaux20Also Temp changes from outside of the compartment to the inside will cause condensation and moisture. Regardless of what from what I've seen in watching every episode you should be okay for plenty of years. 10-15 plus or more without having to worry about any of that having an effect. Good luck

    • @TailwalkBoats
      @TailwalkBoats Месяц назад

      @@Bigeaux20It can't. Carry on just like you're doing. Every time I've dealt with waterlogged foam, it could be traced back to the source of water intrustion... typically screw holes not being sealed properly or an overall poor boat build quality. You are doing an excellent job.

  • @andrewjohns6823
    @andrewjohns6823 2 месяца назад +1

    Getting closer matey

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Step by step right? Appreciate it.

  • @davidreed9987
    @davidreed9987 2 месяца назад +1

    Man, I hated doing the foam but you made it look easy. Can’t tell if you are foaming over the flexible hose or not but the foam will push it up with a lot of force as it expands if you don’t secure it in place really well. Keep up the great work.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      It's certainly something I have been reluctant to tackle, but truth be told, it's much ado about nothing. The little saw just slices through it like nothing. Biggest down side no-one ever talked about is that it's like being at the beach and rolling around in the sand. All those little tiny bubbles get everywhere if you know what I mean. My knees were hamburger from those things getting in my kneepads.
      Where I had hoses and pipes I tried to do small batches so that I didn't run the risk of them being moved too much. The compartments I didn't fill yet, I may do after I put the floor down. I still have some figuring to do on that.

  • @TailwalkBoats
    @TailwalkBoats Месяц назад +1

    Looking great. That foam is some sticky stuff to work with! Let me ask you a question that maybe you answered in another video... How did the notched troweling technique work out for the fairing? Would you do it that way again if you had to do it again?

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      I appreciate the question. The reality is it didn't work as I expected, but the reality to that statement is I didn't know enough to know what to expect. It "could" have been a good move, but I didn't know enough about the process to give myself a good chance of success. Fairing is a lot like car body work. It's an art learned through experience. I think the concept is sound, I just didn't know how to make it successful, so I made some mistakes. I really wish I would have done just the transom and then used what I learned in the relatively small area to do the rest of the boat. There were times I sanded too much, and times I didn't sand enough. I remember saying a lot on the videos that I had no idea what done looked like. There's no doubt that fairing from this point forward will be much easier because of what I learned.

  • @paulbriggs3072
    @paulbriggs3072 2 месяца назад +1

    After careful calculations, Oscar, I have concluded the foam will definitely NOT squeak, unless the boat is OUT ON THE WATER!! Being used!! With the sound of the wind and the waves! And people shouting, "I got a fish!" Otherwise, you are safe on the patio. Nice and quiet there. ...peaceful.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Can you email me that money back no squeak guarantee?

    • @paulbriggs3072
      @paulbriggs3072 Месяц назад +1

      @@Bigeaux20 Yes as long as it stays on the patio. And now for the legal disclaimer: This guarantee not legal in certain undefined areas at our discretion. The definition of 'squeak' is determined by a lawyer in a side alley on the 2nd floor of P.O. box south of San Diego. Do not look directly at this legal disclaimer.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      @paulbriggs3072 If it wasn't for them attorneys, we wouldn't need them other attorneys. That guarantee is water tight. See what I did right there.

  • @stevejackson4136
    @stevejackson4136 2 месяца назад +1

    The foam, you’ll find, also insulates and muffles the noise of waves if you have any chop. I did mine a little different but mine didn’t have all the compartments you have. I had the floor glassed in. Drilled 3” holes saving the plugs. Tilted the bow up and starting in the stern, poured the foam in. When it came up to the hole, put the plug back in and put a brick on it. Kept moving forward. At the very front, , you have to have vent holes or it could blow your floor. What you did looks good. More than one way to get’er done👍

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад +1

      Appreciate it. I may put the floor down and fill some of the remaining holes like you did. I was reluctant to do that because I wanted to know the compartments were full and I didn't want to use more than I should, or not enough. Im glad I left some empty compartments to use my trimmings because that would have otherwise been a lot of waste. I've never messed with foam so as with most things here, I have learned a lot about it, and I will be better suited going forward.
      One of the main reasons I wanted to fill the floor was for the potential noise. It may not be so bad with so many compartments, but I know with the foam it will deaden the sound, and that's what I was really hoping for.

    • @stevejackson4136
      @stevejackson4136 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Bigeaux20 stay safe with hurricane coming in.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      Been lucky for the last couple. That last one was bad bad.

    • @operatoreng
      @operatoreng Месяц назад

      ​@@Bigeaux20just realized after watching every episode that you were making these videos not far from the area where I work when he mentioned the hurricanes..😂😂. I work in Geismer live towards Houma where Francine came on land but made it out lucky without a scratch.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      @operatoreng I used to have a camp in Falgout Canal and it is one of the reasons I am building this boat. I love fishing that area. I do most of my fishing down in Grand Isle right now and most of it is marlin fishing. It's a small world sir. Appreciate it. We have done well in this area avoiding bad storms. Hope our luck continues.

  • @andrewnajarian5994
    @andrewnajarian5994 2 месяца назад +1

    I just stumbled on your build. While I applaud your hard work, did you know hard plumbing is strictly forbidden by ABYC Regulations?
    The flex and vibration in a boat will cause it to fatigue and crack over time and having it securely epoxied to every stringer and bulkhead will make this even more likely. It’s fine for the wire chases but should not be used to carry water.
    Also, you should glass in backer plates and seacocks where those strainers are. You should have two bilge pumps with floats at different heights and make sure you run those hoses up as high as possible and then down to the thru-hull to mitigate the risk of siphon back.
    Make sure that there is some room around the gas tank as well. You don’t want it sandwiched in there too tightly, you want a little breathing room around it.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      I obviously did not know that hard piping was against ABYC regulations. I may have to look over that and consider my options before I close the floor. I guess there is still possibly time to remedy that. What type of hose is suggested. I think I can swap it out now. This is very helpful.
      Those seacocks have backer plates epoxied in as well as at a minimum double layers of 1808 biaxial. Seems you have a mind for redundancy, and I like that approach. How can I justify double bilge pumps in the space I have available and based on the design that isolates each compartment? Tell me if this is wrong that any penetration in one compartment is isolated and can't travel throughout the rest of the vessel. Is it wrong that the biggest risk is an intake of green water, or a rain deluge that exhausts battery capacity? I'm intending battery backups in my plans. Does it factor that this boat will live on a trailer?
      Lastly, on the gas tank, it will not be crowded and have room for expansion and/or contraction but will be strapped in place.
      Love your insight and recommendations. Keep them coming please.

    • @andrewnajarian5994
      @andrewnajarian5994 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Bigeaux20 I didn’t see any seacocks or backing plates, only the strainers, but perhaps I missed them. I also didn’t see what you were using for sealant, but a good rule of thumb is 3M 5200 on anything below the waterline and 4200 on anything above. Sikaflex also makes excellent sealant, (IIRC 291 is their equivalent to 5200) but isn’t as widely available at brick and mortars.
      I would also suggest running the cockpit drains through the hull with scuppers and check valves, that way you aren’t killing batteries to evacuate the water, especially rain water when it’s sitting on a trailer or tied up at a dock.
      Two bilge pumps minimum are a good plan on any boat. The bilge is an absolutely awful environment for anything especially electrical plus debris can clog them. The last thing you want is to be out in the water with a pump failure and no backup especially if you are taking on water or are caught in a torrential downpour and have the cockpit draining into the bilge.
      Where are the fishbox and live wells draining to? Ideally the fishbox would go to a macerator and overboard, you don’t want that stench building up in the bilge.
      Yes, in theory you have compartmentalized everything, but water has a way of getting everywhere. If a compartment fills up and there’s even a pinhole between it and an adjacent one, say a tiny void where the floor meets the bulkhead or tiny spot you missed around any of those hoses/pipes passing through bulkheads and stringers, it’ll find it. As for the type of hose, check the ABYC regulations, they have different specs for raw, fresh, grey and black water. You definitely want to use barbs and two hose clamps like you have been, but I wouldn’t rely on glue on any connections. It’s incredibly strong under normal conditions in a home but a boat is very different, your house doesn’t bounce up/down and slam into waves. All that jarring and vibration will not be good for any glued connections and once the floor is in you’ll have no easy way to inspect or maintain those connections.
      With respect to electrical, you want to have a house battery or two, a starting battery and ideally a trolling battery as well. The best way is to isolate each of them and use an automatic charging relay that will connect them to the battery charger or alternator when charging and disconnect them when discharging. Also, a battery switch that can combine them in the event one is dead and you need to draw power from another. ABYC has regulations about wiring as well, but just like plumbing, it needs to be flexible, so you want multi strand everywhere and there shouldn’t be any solid core anywhere.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад +1

      Outside of the piping I think we are on the same page with most other things. I am looking at replacing the raw water lines. In regards to the electrical, it seems you aren't aware of the plan. I plan at minimum to have a house/starting battery, and two trolling batteries. I will probably add an isolated starting battery with all the relays for charging between the house and starter battery. Standard battery switch off, 1,2, or 1&2 options. The trolling batteries will stay isolated.
      All fish boxes, live wells, and drink boxes all drain overboard via through hulls.

  • @Twelvestonestacking
    @Twelvestonestacking 2 месяца назад +2

    Love it!
    Meh sha, originally from Berwick... now just north of Tampa...send contact info I will send pics of my build...32'x9'6"x23" aft cabin oyster luggers with a box keel!
    Still upside down! Goodonyas!

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад +1

      Keeyaw! Boy you no couyon you for moving from Berwick to Tampa. You can hit me at bigeaux20 at that yahoo dot com. Oyster lugger reminds me of my hometown and the time we would spend around Mobile Bay.

    • @Twelvestonestacking
      @Twelvestonestacking 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Bigeaux20 ha fickin to start work (nites) Houston ship channel (IKR)! Meh I ah boat Capt!

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      Keep it in the deep parts my friend!

  • @botoepfer8588
    @botoepfer8588 Месяц назад +1

    if you are looking for floatation I would get pool noodles they will allow the water to drain out the pour in place will trap the water and rot.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      Seems there are two adversarial positions on expanding foam. I continually perplexed with one aspect. If expanding foam is in an epoxy seal compartment, how does the water get to it to saturate it? Outside of a penetration or some other leak which is a failure of another factor. What specifically happens to allow moisture to penetrate an impermeable surface to get to the foam. I've been told many times, it just finds a way or it just does. I ask this sincerely and not sarcastically. What am I missing?

    • @botoepfer8588
      @botoepfer8588 Месяц назад +1

      @@Bigeaux20 well I can tell you after a career fixing boats the foam gets soaked,

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  8 дней назад +1

      Well. Appreciate it anyway.

  • @setiadisasmita2369
    @setiadisasmita2369 Месяц назад +1

    how much do you spend liquid foam?

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  Месяц назад

      I want to say I will have about 10 gallons of foam total doing the entire hull. That may wind up being a bad decision, but there will be benefits as well.

  • @bonafideadventures8425
    @bonafideadventures8425 2 месяца назад +1

    I’m sitting here, wondering if you had to use this boat as a lifeboat after this last hurricane must’ve been fun. Good to see you back to work thanks.

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  2 месяца назад

      No, we got pretty lucky with this last one. It shifted east and put us on the good side. It got a little windy, but nothing extreme. Maybe got an inch of rain. Never lost power so I slept right through it. Was really worried about the tent, but it held together just fine. Amazed at how tough that thing is. Appreciate it.

  • @SquidoftheD
    @SquidoftheD 26 дней назад +1

    Mix at the boat

    • @Bigeaux20
      @Bigeaux20  22 дня назад

      That's a good idea as well. Buy me a little more time, but I haven't has any issues with mixing since I have been doing it mechanically. Appreciate it.